Was it really that bad?
>>740940948>as the weird quasi-jrpg that it was story-wiseYes>as a 3d sonic gameAlso yes
>>740940948If sonic was female and Elise was male it would be fine
The gameplay? Yeah. The story was peak autist fanfiction kino
>>740940948To this day, I will never understand why everyone chimped out over this. They're both sapient and in the same age range. You idiots got mad at a teenager for crushing on a boy her age. Elise did nothing wrong. Also, Mass Effect came out a year later, and you all drooled over alien chicks. Filthy hypocrites, the lot of you.
>>740941342So the best type of story
>>740941293>>as the weird quasi-jrpg that it was story-wiseYou say that, but Chronicles was straight up a Sonic JRPG, and the story was great. The gameplay sucked, but that's typical of a Sonic game.
>>740940948It was cute.
>>740940948The soundtrack was kino and Shadow had a cool arc.
>>740942012Hedghog life expectancy is 5-8 years. In hedgehog years Sonic is ancient. Therefore a pedo
>>740941295spbp
>>740942198Obviously that doesn't apply to mobians, dumbass.
>>740940948do you think they banged?
>fixes your game
>>740942442Amy but brown
>>740942135
>>740942012The humans in 06 look too realistic. If Elise was more cartoony no one would have batted an eye.
>>740942198>In hedgehog years Sonic is ancient. Therefore a pedothis is the stupidest line of reasoning imaginable In (animal) years should only be considered in terms of an animal's physical health, it's not as if his mind is that of an 80 year old you mongoloid
>>740940948>Was it really that ba-YES YES IT WAS!!Despite the attempted revisionism going on, 06's legacy will forever be remembered as the game that permanently scarred the Sonic franchise no matter what the nu-fans claim. The very VERY few interesting bits such as Shadow's character growth and personality, Silver's physics interactive gameplay, and Sonic's.... being a playable character does not even remotely cover for the mountain of shit garbage that was the game's overall quality. It's clear how this year being both the game's 20th anniversary and the Sonic series 35th anniversary, Sega is not even bothering to acknowledge the existence of this game.
>>740941342Only Sonic Autists think the girl should've been mobian. Nobody would've played a game where Sonic has a fling with some random furry character except Klonoafags.
>>740942898That's a bit too woke for me.>They actually fucked
>>740943728Shadow Generations literally had Mephiles
>>740943936> Nobody would've played a game where Sonic has a fling with some random furry
>>740944131Does Blaze wear pants or not
>>740943463
>>740942012Because the game was bad. If the game was good you'd have a fringe group self-inserting as Elise to roleplay romancing Sonic. It's a good thing 06 sucked.
>>740941293>>740943728>>740944131>two decades later>still can't get over elise's superiorityfeels good to be team elise
>>740943936Counterpoint: Sally Acorn
If it was yuri Sonicfags would've probably liked it more.
>>740940948Yes.Elise a cute, but she will never be seen again because the game is so infamously bad.
>>740944119And Sega retconned Eggman Nega to be Eggman's future descendant and Silver's arch enemy despite originally being from Blaze's world and foe and even doubling down on Blaze being from a parallel world and not the future multiple times now. Team Sonic just wants to nostalgia bait without putting any thought into it despite them trying to take the Sonic IP into a more continuity focused direction which in turn just screws up everything.
>>740940948It was one of the game's least problems.
>>740941342Yeah. Like the story was garbage but in a funny way that you could enjoy if you laughed at it. The gameplay was and still is dogshit.
>>740943486Under your line of reasoning Chris Chan should be able to be with a 12 y/o girl
>>740940948Of COURSE mobians would NEVER EVER do ut with puny humans
>>740940948>>740942012I hated Elise back then because you're telling me you'd rather have the whole World get fucked over by Iblis instead of not seeing Sonic again.
Ignoring the load times, it's not any worse than the other games that came out around then. But adding awful load times onto an already mediocre game makes it the worst thing in the world, see Enter the Dragonfly
>>740940948KEK WHAT THE FUCKWHY IS HIS HEAD SO BIGHIS HEAD ALONE IS LIKE TWICE HER BODY WEIGHT
>>740948431The load times weren't the worst part of Sonic 06 by a long shot. It's the fact that the game was essentially an alpha marketed as a finished product that made it so legendarily bad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MWEHwvcnyMPeople that say "it's not that bad" haven't played it. Shadow the Hedgehog or Sonic Heroes are Sonic games that are unfairly maligned when they're just okay really. This game rightfully was, is and will be shat on for it being so fundamentally broken.
>>740948219why is it always whisper
>>740948219Really good. Dykebreaking NTR is fine and all but yuri that integrates a guy to make it a three-way relationship is so much better. Krusielle and such.
It feels next Gen still. Games don't have that next Gen feeling anymore.
>>740944790It's for the best. They would give her a weapon, and make her a confident and capable fighter. A male is not allowed to rescue a princess or share romantic moments with her in today's climate. She would probably rescue Sonic if she appeared in a modern game.
Playing this on PS3 was painful.The only two highlights to this game was the music and Shadow's story.
>>740949251This.At least devs back then were still trying to make unique games, even if the end result was jank.
>>740940948Sonics not really the type of guy to fall in love but if he was, it wouldn’t be for a boring princess.
>>740940948I don't know but Elise was really cute and it's a shame that she'll never be in anything again.
>>740949251Not in a good. It's early next gen jank. Games 2-3 years will blow it out of the water in terms of fidelity. Gen 6.5 not Gen 7. Which still makes it more next gen than modern games actually. Sad.
It's worse on PS3 than on 360
>>740942898The cartoony proportions really helps. That semi realistic pale plastic doll look just weirds me out.
>>740944665Nobody remembers SATAM except for Sonic nerds.
>>740950998She's not boring
Sonic is built for Human Women
>>740940948It was kino. More Sonic games need a story like 06.
>>740948060Why not?
>>740953170True
I hate Elise but I love Madonna.
fully rendered nipples
>>740948713Not true
Amy Rose cute
>>740944243yeah else her nice legs will show
>>740944676Thing is, you're not even wrong. Rouge and Topaz's love is pure.
>>740949037Man's best friend + mobian female = man's best lover.
>you will never go on a date with a mobian>you will never confess your love and ask their hand in marriage>you will never be happily married>you will never grow old togetherWhat is my purpose being born on this planet? Suffer, eat shit, pay taxes, and get worked to death? That's it?
>>740955591She can plausibly fight in his head area.
>>740940948It was pretty much an alpha build desu. Needed way more content and a lot of polish. Fucking sucks we'll never get the game we were supposed to get.
>>740960548What IS it about mobians that makes them so... attractive? Also, Nicole, my beloved.
>>740960878the cute and cool style and seeing them take action. its always so heroic
>>740942012Probably because of being stuck in a terrible game. If Elise were to return in a better game, I think she would be better received. But don't quote me on that. For fucks sake, do you know how many times I've seen Shadow get paired with Maria?
>>740940948Yes, this was supposed to be Sonic Adventure 3 and they rushed it and ruined it
>>740942012I thought the romance story had potential but it just wasn't finished. It was rushed to meet deadlines. If only Dreamcast hadn't died. I don't think this rushed game would have happened to Sonic otherwise.
>>740961163>I thought the romance story had potential but it just wasn't finished.That's kind of why I want Princess Elise to return. There was some missed potential with her. Mephiles returned in Generations, so her coming back doesn't seem to be out of the question.
>>740942012You ever seen the movie Cool World? Imagine Brad Pitt fucking one of the cartoon women in that movie. Same concept.
>>740942442Making her a bird is much better personally
>>740960831The worst part is that the potential was there. Could've been a really cool game if it worked. The only time it worked was the Solaris fight all the way at the true ending.
I have mad regret for giving in to the hate back then and never experiencing what is basically Sonic Adventure 3. Now it's not avaliable easily...
>>740960612>>740955591I love seeing these screenshots of 06. It felt so much like a story WORLD for Sonic. You just get so much history in every shot. I wished they had ignored the critics and kept going.
>>740956419
I fucked her
There is nothing wrong with Elise being human, or the idea that Sonic could have a human love interest if only for one good. But it had to be done like Roger Rabbit, something that's artistically fitting, not the Final Fantasy melodrama we got.
>>740940948>there wasn't a graphic, fully-animated sex scene where the fastest hedgehog around dicks down the hebe himeYeah, it was shit. Shadow the Hedgehog was better. He does a damn.
>>740964389Yeah. I think especially internet people and sonic fans are fucking weird about the Elise being human thing, because it's so obvious that the intent behind it was like "Sonic is REAL now, so it's like a movie with a cartoon character in it", or something like Ninja Turtles The Movie which like the show also had the turtles, being animatronics, and April O'Neil just being a female screen actress. And people LIKED that movie.
>>740962234Sonic bird people look bad.
>>740964389When >>740944313 was posted, it was very well received and kinda instantly un-fucked her reputation a little. Elise a cute!
>>740963976
Sonic X did it 10x better and it was just a friendship too!
>>740964697I agree with you if you're talking about the Sonic Movie Owl
>>740965216>Sonic Movie Owldid they ever explain why she looked nothing like how sonic tails and knuckles looked in that movie
>>740964971Based. >>740965017Ice cold take, but Helen should've been the main human character.
How come people hate Sonic x Elise but love Shadow x Maria? Isn't that hypocritical?
>>740965273I guess they just forgot to redesign her after redesigning Movie Sonic
>>740965284>Ice cold take, but Helen should've been the main human character.I agree, there's a reason the episode about her is one of the actually liked parts about Sonic X, however I'm not sure how they would involve her in all 50 something episodes of sonic X since she's similar to Nunnally in code geass (cute disabled girl in wheelchair archtype)
>>740965273This >>740965363. It's literally because she's an artifact of the original artstyle that was so bad it caused them to redo the entire fucking movie. I wish they had redone Longclaw as well though. >>740965352Incest freaks get the rope.
>>740965352Maria wasn't explicitly developed as a love interest, she was just a crucial part of Shadow's past that felt like a mutual relationship with how badly he was traumatized by her death.
>>740942012i don't even know how they fell in love so fastthey had like a total of 1 conversationand the whole story doesn't even matter to begin with. Mephiles just one shots Sonic and teleports the emeralds to him, the only reason why they have a relationship is so Elise can cry when Sonic dies
octopus face
>>740965889Developing a convincing relationship is like, really haaard. You have to like, have the characters talk, and find common points of interest, and that means you have to flesh both of them out as characters... Ugh, it's just too much effort.
>>740940948Yeah it was bad, but also overhated at the same time, this game is like 20 years old and no one seemingly got over it, like it really lives rent free in the minds of millions and broke them. Shadow's story is the best, but harmed by presentation, Silver's is good in theory but executed horribly, Sonic's is very boring with forced romance.Gameplay is BADventure.Has some potential, and good ideas but rushed to hell and lost half it's crew for sonic Secert Rings which also sucked so it wasn;t even worth it.OST is pretty Great.
>>740966238Amy's lickable exposed back. ... Why is she able to turn invisible in this game?
>>740966238is it overhated? It literally dictated how Sonic games would be made for the next 10 years, they got rid of all the side characters except for when they needed to have Sonic talk to someone>>740966192>Developing a convincing relationship is like, really haaard. You have to like, have the characters talk, and find common points of interest, and that means you have to flesh both of them out as characters... Ugh, it's just too much effort.i wonder why they did it, maybe the writers just suck ass but why did they need them to be in love, exactly?
>>740966238(Amy...)
>>740966484>It literally dictated how Sonic games would be made for the next 10 years, they got rid of all the side characters except for when they needed to have Sonic talk to someoneSonic 4's release was hilarious, because it finally killed the "shitty friends" meme. Turns out, these games being jank trash has nothing to do with the existence of a supporting cast. >>740966484>i wonder why they did it, maybe the writers just suck ass but why did they need them to be in love, exactly?Good question. Could've just been friends. But the same issue applies, writing a convincing friendship is also something Sega writers cannot be arsed to do.
>>740966238imo it's not much that it's overhated than it is hated for the wrong reasons because it's insanely uneven. (and that 99% of the haters never played the game)Mach speed sections are pretty bullshit but overall the gameplay is really solid except for Silver.The story is also fine, the cutscenes being half finished is where it hurts the most. Some don't even have lights and shadows and look fucking awful.The hubs and city missions/loading hell is where it gets really, really, really bad.Playing the game with the mission select skips the cutscenes and hubs and it's actually pretty decent to play even if it's jank.
I blame /v/ for the fact that I jerk off to Sonic yiff nowI don't even like these games
Elise can have Sonic. That means Amy is free game for me.
>>740966753"shitty friends" persisted all the way to Shadow Generations and even now we still have people who believe Sonic's games should have only him playable, if not out of contrarianism, then out of pragmatism because those hacks at Sega have abysmal track record with large scope games.
Mobian/Human romance can work just fine.
>>740966835/v/ didn't do anything that was purely the slippery slope of your porn addiction.
>>740940948No justice for Amy Rose
>>740967243Sonic treats Amy like shit. She has Surge now.
>>740967336>Lesbians <3fuck off...
>>740967336why are the comic writers so fucking hellbent on making lesbians
>>740967623Girls are cute. Two girls are cuter. Two girls who kiss each other are even cuter. Its not rocket science.
>>740940948yes Amy Rose deserved that not random human
>>740968187>>740968120was there ever a mod made to make her less realistic
>>740940948>Was it really that bad?Humans cant have sex with animals pedo
>>740949798Sonic saved Amy- and Sage- in Frontiers, anon. He even flirted with Rouge in Crossworlds. Hang out with funner autists.
>>740940948Yep. If you disagree, you didn't play it.
>>740968279She's fine
>>740968582Well, did you anon?
>>740950998>it wouldn’t be for a boring princessBoring?>First meeting - is attacked by robots>captured by man shaped like an egg>Sonic rides on the fin of an orca and runs at max speed to catch airship and save her>Fights giant robot in an arenahow is any of that boring?
>>740968279There have been numerous fan attempts at a "Mobian Elise" design, most of them turning her into some manner of bird.
>>740961163Sonic 06's script leaked almost a year before it came out. And it's 99% the same script.Everything they planned ended up in the game. It not being polished doesn't mean it wasn't "finished". 06 is one of the most fully rounded Sonic experiences.
>>740969070Yeah these all suck.
>>740969070Making Elise a mobian is some bitch ass cowardice. >>740969112And at no point did they notice all the glaring plotholes and clunky writing? Sega will always deserve scorn for being incompetent twats.
>i'll never get a sonic game set in archie/satam mobius with kino writingMaybe it's a good thing since it means I won't have to watch modern AAA gaming ruin what I love.
>>740949037Because man historically always tames the wolf
Sonic 06's story itself was fine. It was on the same level as SA2. The problem was the execution.
>>740944001DOUBT
>>740964697You are wrong in every meaning of the word
>>740968120CUTE
i'm going to ask because there HAS to be at least one comicfag in here, how do they defeat the Metal virus exactly?
>>740956419Yes. Yes she is.
>>740969178Nah you suck
>>740970060They teleport every trace of it into the sun using the Warp Topaz charged by a super form.
>>740969517I feel you. Much as I miss it, modern Sega would sanitize it to shit. >>740970060Sonic and Silver go Super and use their super special plot radiation to purge it from everyone.
>>740969006Exciting things happening to you doesn't make you an exciting person.
>>740970060Super Sonic and Super Silver purge the virus by warping it into the sun.
>>740940948Should've just been Blaze desu. I say that because I'm not a Blazefag, like she's cute but she ain't mah waifu, so I don't care if she would've become a laughingstock, it would've made logical sense.She had only appeared in one game at that point, and they seemingly tried to retcon her origin in 06 anyways. She hasn't been relevant as a character since Rush Adventure back in 2007. Iblis being sealed inside her since birth would've explained her fire powers, which is presumably still the canonical explanation if 06 is taken as canon, that she was reborn in another dimension with Iblis' fire powers after getting it sealed into her in Silver's scenario. But since this game flopped so bad, the official explanation is that Rush did happen first, and nobody recognized her in this because they all "had amnesia."
>>740970206>>740970240>>740970384thanks
>>740972063Their personalities are completely incompatible, they would've had to rewrite the entire story to try an account for that. That's like if the immediate next game after SA2 reintroduced Shadow as a feel-good '60s hippie. I will say that Elise's backstory would handily explain Blaze's frigid autism, if she was instructed to never cry or otherwise express strong emotions as an attempt to stop the fire demon from breaking out if she let her guard down in a moment of weakness.
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>>740972063And as a Blazefag, having Blaze's design with Elise's story and personality would have been the death of her character for good. Elise doesn't appear anymore not because she was a poor innocent character stuck in a bad game, it's because her character has no use in the Sonic Universe.
>>740940948The romance? It was weird, but whatever,>playing sonic for the storyThe game itself? It was beyond terrible. It wasn't so-bad-it's-good, it was just bad. The load times, the fiddly physics, the random deaths, the bad level design, the bad boss design, that one challenge where you die from a robot offscreen in the first second and have to take 70s to retry. Everything about the game (other than the music, obviously) was terrible. The music was 10/10, but it's a Sonic game so that's expected.
>>740940948Sonic has a thing for human females.He is a certified AMOFH
>>740940948If the game get rid of the loading screens for every 5 seconds and the garbage control maybe it worked somehow.At least the atmosphere here and there was good tho.
>>740942442>Fix your genre
>>740944001Plowed of the speed of sound ~~~
>>740948219Fuckin BASED
>>740960548>What is my purpose being born on this planetTo take revenge on the Jews I bet because of them we can't get Mobian gf
>>740960878Mobian girls the perfect wife materials.
>>740967169>Bamboozled
>>740969851She goes full feral in the bed My god.
>>740965363>>740965583Source?
>>740975395>Fang and Westwood as the yaoi version of Rouge and Topaz... Cook.
>>740976615He learned from his sister Nicolette.Human male are irresistible for them
>>740940948
>>740973259My personal fave spin on Birb Elise
>>740977039Another fine addition to my collection
>>740942012Normies hated it because eww gross interspecies but I hated it because the relationship was written like shit and Elise is nothing more but a damsel in distress.
>Sonic thread on /v/>overall pretty chill and just talking about the series>Sonic thread on /vg/>cult of corporate drones screeching about everything... Okay.
It's funny how a single human female has managed to trigger so many furryfags, kek.
