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HOLY FUCKING GIGABASED.
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Fucking based i can't wait for Elden Ring 2, I hope we have to dodge bosses 30 times before hitting R1 once, 15 times in ER was too little.
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>>740947464
Fag
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>>740947464
fpbp
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>>740947273
they keep essentially making the same game.
why not make highly wanted sequels like Bloodborne 2?
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>>740947273
>Proceed to make ds3, eldenring, nightreign and duskborn
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>>740947273
>Investors: "stop making live service slop and make great single player experiences"
>From: "NOOOO YOURE INFRINGING ON MY HECKING CREATIVITY"
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>>740947273
Elden Ring was safe as fuck though?
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>>740947273
He says as they release nightreign
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>>740947719
Treating your player base like they have 100iq is actually pretty limiting from a corporate perspective
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>>740947273
I don't even get why they're trying to fuck with him when letting them do whatever they want has produced some of the most acclaimed, hyped up stuff ever made. They aren't shitting out Kings Quest remasters or anything like that, your average Fromsoft game is now so highly anticipated that normalfags faint in excitement when one is announced, and it's almost always a highlight of the show it's revealed at. Like what the fuck are these retards at Kadokawa doing? Trying to muscle in and get credit for advising?
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Every single first world country needs to severely limit the rights of investors
Nothing can get done when you have a horde of Jews in your ear screaming that you need to make your product shit so you can sell it to sub80 IQs
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Demon's Souls and Dark Souls
>big hits
Dark Souls 2
>their biggest flop
Bloodborne
>best game on both the PS4 and 5
Dark Souls 3
>mediocre sequel
Sekiro and Elden Ring
>absolute kino in two entirely different way
Gee I wonder why they reject the retard ass investor demand for safe sequels. It's almost like Fromsoft thrives on creating original IPs and they know it
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>>740947273
I'm honestly getting kind of tired of Fromsoft's super edgy grimdark slop. Can't they make a different type of setting for a change? Or are they literally incapable of that?
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Why do (((investors))) feel like they know better than the man that made GOTY?
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>>740948047
you can play Final Fantasy whenever you want
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>>740947293
>recent poor performance
>Elden Ring
???
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>>740947273
This would be a bold stance if he wasn't just slopping out endless Dark Souls rehashes like most investors would be telling him to do anyway.
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But they're making shit like Nightreign and the new switch game which are exclusively online Battle Royale shit
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>>740947716
they can take their money somewhere if they dont like it :)
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>>740947273
>the guy that has been making Dark Souls for nearly 15 years saying anything about creativity
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>rejects safer sequels
>shits out Dark Souls 6 every few years
fuck off
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>>740948047
I want to see a modern take on Forever Kingdom's party based action system
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>>740948047
Are you le literally incapable of playing something else?
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>Investor: Hello Mitsubishi san, please keep milking the souls piggies for more money
>Miyazaki: UHMMM NO???? I MAKE WHAT I LE WANT TO MAKE!!
>*makes more souls games anyway*
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>>740947273
So what they want to make is fucking dogshit?
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>>740947273
They should took arabs money and went private.
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>>740948126
Elden Ring has only sold like 30 million copies that's baby numbers. Imagine if they did Dark Souls 4 instead it would sell 5 million minimum!
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>>740948042
Dark Souls 2 sold 5 million in a year and is the highest rated dark souls game on metacritic.
Keep seething
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>>740947273
So wait, does this mean they WON'T be making Elden Ring 2 or Dark Souls 4?

Because that's kinda based
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>>740948042
Pretending Elden Ring is anything but Dark Souls 4 with a layer of GRRM's incest fetishism painted over it is bold.
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>>740948350
>>740948301
>>740948345
Discord trannies found this thread.
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>>740947273
They can make whatever they want to make but that doesn't mean what they're making isn't complete shit. From Softwares games are trash.
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>>740948441
>Imagine if instead of Dark Souls 4 they made Dark Souls 4
uh?
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>>740947273
More Sekiro and less Dark Souls, Mitsubishi-san
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>>740948345
kek
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>>740948490
See >>740948487
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>>740948126
Line must go up, Anon.
Elden Ring printed money and now everything that's not even more successful is poor performance.
>cheap experimental game to give new employees more experience, that sold 5+ mil?
poor performance
>game entirely financed by Nintendo?
poor performance
>not releasing any new games in a year?
poor performance
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yea well i'm sure the big boys wanted open world dark souls because open worlds are generally big sellers and then the studio made open world dark souls
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>>740948312
NTA but yes, I love fromsofts game design and philosophies, I hate westernslop,
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>>740948463
Of course not silly
It means they will make fucking shit because they want to, not because they are forced to
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>>740948104
>>740948312
>how dare you ask for variety
From shills everyone
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>>740948486
If Elden Ring is Dark Souls 4 then Bloodborne is Demon's Souls 3
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>>740948586
How long ago did you transition?
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>>740947464
Spbp fromsoft haven't been creative or taken a risk for over 10 years
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i have anti fromsoft fatigue. yes we get it you dont like the formula. other people do. there are 500 other games you can play you dont have to show up in every thread and be gay about your dislike for souls games
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>>740948126
Elden Ring came out 100 years ago. It's not recent
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>>740947273
>WE MAKE WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE
which is fortnite clones, good for him
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>>740948735
But you still have not answered how long ago did you transition
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>>740948047
I don't mind the grimdark settings but I am getting kind of tired of every game having the same unintuitive, vague item description story telling. AC6 was refreshing cause it actually conveyed information to you normally.
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>>740948462
Elden Ring outperformed the entire Dark Souls trilogy
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>>740947464
this but unironically
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>>740948104
FF is also making edgy grimdark now
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>>740947273
>literally the safest GAAS trash imaginable built with reused assets
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>>740948126
i think they are complaining about the whole kadokawa empire, making a fuckton of anime which hasnt paid off? but ofc they want them to make elden ring every quarter to get as much money as possible until people eventually stop caring about form software's games so they can invest in other things
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>>740948735
I had Soulslike fatigue after playing Elden Ring cause the game is massively overrated and SOTE is probably the worst DLC Fromsoft has ever made and the first time I've ever felt the DLC is actually a downgrade from the base game but playing Wuchang and Lies of P recently reignited my love for the genre. Gonna play AI Limit next and then LOTF 1(2) after that in preparation for the sequel.
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>>740948671
They literally admitted this.
>Just reflecting on your question and the history of my development...it carries the DNA. It carries the DNA of Demon's Souls and its very specific level design. And even in Bloodborne, the upper maps, the maps above ground, are all along the lines of Demon's Souls and very specifically designed.
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>>740947273
What could investors possibly be asking them to make, when everything they've made outside of Soulslop always sells worse than soulslop? I can only assume they tried to get them to turn Nightreign into a proper live service game.
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>>740948487
Keep seething faggot. Miyazaki hasn't had a good idea in 10+ years
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They make whatever they want to make? hell yeah! this company is for the gamers!
i just invested my kids college fund into From Software stock to show my support.
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>>740948938
Same, the problem is not soulslikes
Is Fromshit making dogshit games from ER on
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>>740948591
>why doesn't a classical composer do a rap song for a change???
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>>740947893
it really just boils down to corporatism trying to make a science out of art
in theory, if you can control enough variables, you can generate a repeatable process
works for hard products like soap; doesn't work for entertainment
or at least not forever
the intangibles of creativity are essential to making good entertainment, and those are unpredictable and scary
but established corporations function entirely on predictions
the two endeavors are incompatible
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>>740947719
Their last game was Armored Core.
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>>740947273
Elden Ring with the piss easy baby difficulty was already a safe bet and catering to investors.
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>>740949085
What a stupid analogy
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>>740947273
/v/ hates this
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>>740948932
Was it Kadokawa that fucked up merchandising Kemono Friends or am I thinking of a different out of touch conglomerate?
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>>740948591
>From shills everyone

I gave you variety.
You're asking for a heavy metal album and whining that Tupac won't make one.
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kek
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>>740949103
No actually it was Nightreign and before that it was Shadow of the Erdtree.
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>>740947273
Refusing to do what your investors and shareholders want you to do is extremely antisemetic.
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>>740947273
Oh boy, I can't wait for miyazaki to get pressured into making endless dark souls sequels, the future of gaming is bright
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elden ring is worse than dark souls, uhhh night reign and duskbloods...just make dark souls 4 please an thank
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>>740947719
that's the point of the article and why the (((shareholders))) want them to make an Elden Ring 2 except From said nah we're going to make The Duskbloods and we're only going to release it on the Switch 2 get fucked
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>>740947273
Okay then make a game like Chromehounds instead of endless parade of ARPG dodge/parry-timing-simulators. You wont.
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>>740949181
Still a stupid analogy
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>>740947273
He is literally the best thing in gaming and this board is certified FROMChad turf. I don't give a fuck what any of you newfags have to say. FROMSOFT is the greatest company in all of gaming and their games are objectively better than everything else by a significant margin. Their D team "slop" is objectively better than everything as well. Their low effort is still top tier.
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>>740949185
>A DLC and a multiplayerslop cashgrab
I mean REAL games.
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>>740947273
how is it his fault that the other licensed stuff bamco pumps out isn't as successful as his games
the suits need him, he won't get kicked out or inconvenienced
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>>740949292
Anon I love AC6 my point is Fromsoft are hardly strangers to safe and lazy cash grab games that exist purely to sell rather than be born from artistic vision.
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>>740949187
No, that's literally against the law.
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>>740949181
How does living as a barely human mongoloid feel
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I hope the jews do their worst. Fuck Fromflopware.
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>>740949292
Niggertard, the games being fucking trash doesn't remove them from existence
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>>740949091
I don't get why these people didn't just invest in medicine or data brokering then if they didn't want to deal with letting established successful creatives do their job in peace. It's not like Fromsoft is fucking Ubishit with literal endless failure and ridicule under their belt, they're proven to be good at what they do for decades.
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>>740947273
>they say as they're making yet another roll-slop clone
uh-huh, and you addicts will pay full price for it too
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>>740949181
I genuinely do not understand how much of a buckbroken subhuman you have to be that you genuinely think "grimdark settings" is Fromsoft's entire identity and not the fucking gameplay that spawned an entire new subgenre.
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>>740947273
Absolutely, irrefutably based.
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>>740949262
>Still not answering how long ago he chopped his cock off
bfff... You are no long for this world anon...
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>>740947273
The fuck is this hack even talking about? his tendie shit is literally the safest trash ever with nothing but assets of his previous games lmao
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>Waiter, waiter another dark fantasy game with no story whatsoever.
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>>740949179
that would be them
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>>740949091
>art
>video gamne
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>>740947273
Keep telling you anons he is the greatest video game developer we have ever seen but the shills want to keep on hating because they cannot control Fromsoftware or based Miyazaki. This man needs to be worshiped as the GOAT at this point.
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>>740947893
>Trying to muscle in and get credit for advising
honestly it's probably this. Kadokawa is full of retards like that. Never forget they kill kemono friend as a franchise because one their exec was butthurt his "prediction" that the anime would flop missed the mark so goddamn bad.
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>>740947464
I say this (1000 hours in ER)
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>>740949675
and it keeps making billions because that idea is so good
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>>740949183
>hates classic GoW
what? too problematic and "toxic masculine" for you, woketard?
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I recently played through Space Marine 2 and the gunstrike/parry/dodge mechanics were so much more enjoyable than just stupidly rolling around left and right, I don't understand why this fuck does the same game over and over again without trying to innovate
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>>740949262
It isn't even remotely close how far ahead FROMSOFT is to every other developer. I'm insulted they can even be compared to any other devs. They are so much better than everything in gaming I'd even say they are the only developer worth preordering from.
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>>740949675
I have played them all and I had no idea there was a story
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>>740949490
Disingenuous pic, sometimes you have to talk to NPCs so they can become bad guys to kill and sometimes they die on their own.
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>>740948823
It was bizarre to see a From game where people talked with one another and not at the player. They even did it in the ER dlc, which surprised me immensely
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>>740949675
This is THE ultimate premise for a video game, seethe harder faggot
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>>740949819
If it's selling then that means it's good enough with no need to innovate
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>>740947719
They are implying Duskblood you low iq chimp
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>>740947273
This sounds like performative dogshit. Granted, Fromsoft games haven't reached the likes of Asscreed or COD in how they've been run into the ground but it's clearly not the case that they are trying to experiment and push new boundaries since almost every game is a souls like.

Heck, make a new King's Field entry. At least a first person dungeon crawler has some opportunity for innovation or new experiences. If you really want to go the remake route, remake the first King's Field.
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>>740949523
it's not just the investors
after a person reaches a certain level in management/leadership, everyone seems to have the belief that an upper manager in one industry can just jump industries and slot into an open position with zero issues
that's how Hollywood studios ended up with ceos coming over from companies like Pepsi
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>>740948463
Miyazaki himself said that he doesn't like sequels. The only exception, being after the shitshow that was DS2 he reluctantly took over the reigns to give Dark Souls a proper sendoff with 3.
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>>740949943
>they didn't mean this safe game they mean this even more safe and derivative game
Cool thanks for making my argument stronger when I was being generous and giving Fromsoft the benefit of the doubt.
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>>740949918
I guess? I still love it but I genuinely believe that SM2 specifically is something that he should take a loot at, the mechanics are addictive and keep you in the fight, shit I'd love to see a grimdark medieval game with massive amounts of enemies like that
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Poorly designed game for slopeaters.
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>>740949490
fuck you, kings quest 5 is evil and sucks ass
>oh, you didnt go to this screen in the other edge of the map the game tells you not to go and solve a maze right after the start and went to an easy to reach screen instead?
>yeah you couldnt save the mouse and softlocked the game, you wont know about it though because you can still do other stuff and progress for a few hours, fuck you
fuck this game, so easy to tell it was made by a women. fucking vile evil shit
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>>740947273
Says the guys who keeps refurbishing the same game over and over
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>>740949183
> Elden Ring
> one mechanic

The older I get, the more I realize lobotomies shouldn't have been made illegal.
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>>740949854
That's the good thing, there IS a story, and it's there if you want to invest your time into it, but if you just want straight "ooga bonga R1 R1 roll" you can, and there's no bullshit handholding with that.
That's the success of this company
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he won
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I dare fromsoft to make a new king's field game WITHOUT adding in first person i-frame dodging
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>>740947273
So they're going to keep making the same formulaic dogshit they've been making. Wow, big surprise.
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>>740949703
would you prefer entertainment?
whichever word you use, the point stands
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>>740947273
easy on the antisemitism
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>>740947273
>Fuck you we will keep adding non-con invasions to out games to fuck over casuals, seethe
Based Miyazaki
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>>740949943
>They are implying the second asset flip in a row
kek
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>>740950239
>Dark Souls introduced i-frame rolling.
>Bloodborne introduced blood vials instead of estus.
>Sekiro introduced parrying
>Elden Ring introduced a repleneshing estus mechanic and ashes NPC helpers
Objectively false. Every game has been an iteration on the last, adding new things while keeping the base systems of what worked.
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>>740947273
why are investors so fucking retarded?
they always push for the stupidest shit, they think if one successful game has crafting, multiplayer, live service, open world, whatever, then every game needs to have all that slop
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>>740950330
Where are these negroid? Is DS1 the last game from this hack you played?
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>>740950384
>Adding a flask is an iteration
You should really start thinking about hanging yourself
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>>740947464
Obligatory.
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>>740949678
I see nothing has changed then
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can’t wait for elden ring 2 so then I can start waiting for convergence devs to release a mod that makes the game enjoyable
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>>740950387
because most investors know nothing about what they're investing in, and furthermore, they don't care
just make the line go up
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>>740950486
Dynamically replenishing estus is objectively a new iteration on top of the old static "replenish at bonfire only" system. You could tell Miyazaki was even thinking about this with the estus soup in DS3.
Please stop letting your emotions control you. Use your brain.
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>>740950531
I thought rich people are supposed to be smart
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>>740950384
>Sekiro introduced parrying
You are a true Dark Souls fan.
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>>740948463
ER2 is definitely happening, they are trying to fight back on the fortnite crossover(inevitable)
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>>740950571
>I thought rich people are supposed to be smart
>USA
AHAHAHAH
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>>740947273
>WE MAKE WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE
>PLS MR HACK PORT BLOODBORNE INTO PC
>NAH ID MAKE MULTIPLAYER SLOP

He's a hack and the only souls game worth playing is sekiro, the rest is trash.
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>>740950580
>Strawman
You know exactly what I meant by that line. Is it that wrong of me to presume that the people here have higher than 70 IQ?
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>>740950005
Is that why there's been a big string of CEOs dumpstering companies by squeezing them to make numbers look good, then leaving with a huge golden parachute?
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>>740950384
>Sekiro introduced parrying
I genuinely don't know what you mean by this.
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>>740947273
>pumps out more soulsslop
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>>740950713
Please stop being retarded >>740950676
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>>740950676
>Strawman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdYLDpBc-yI
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So they WANT to make multiplayer extraction slop for retards?
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>>740950384
>>Dark Souls introduced i-frame rolling.
>>Sekiro introduced parrying
Retarded nigger
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>>740950571
common misconception
you and I look at a rich person, and because of our frame of reference, we relate to their outcome of "being rich" and apply the amount of work, talent, and luck we would need to get to the same point
but we have no idea how they came by their wealth
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>>740950770
Explain your work.
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>>740947273
>safer sequel
Get fuck, Sweet Babies
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>>740947464
Fuck yeah dude I love when a boss is clearly playing a more fun video game than I am while I wait my turn.
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>>740949735
>mfw my friend bought the buckets
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>>740950564
>It doesn't even know how it works
You should really start thinking about hanging yourself
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>>740947273
They say this but will just drop elden ring 2
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>>740950384
You really are not human are you?
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>>740950770
You have to tell us when did you transition or we can't take you seriously
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>>740950813
>>740950841
>>740950941
>>740951004
I appreciate the (you)s gents. Continue being the lovable ESL brownie retards that you are.
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>>740947719
Then why did it mindrape you? It doesn't add up.
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>>740948042
Actually believing From's most successful titles aren't all assets re-uses is fucking wild.
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>>740947273
like elden ring?
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>>740951108
>Ran out of retarded meaningless dogshit to say
So you are finally hanging yourself, nice
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>>740950695
pretty much
they're also usually not held accountable for their mistakes in situations like that
you bring in a CEO like that when your company is starting to struggle, so you farm out for a "ringer", regardless of where they found success, in the misguided belief that person will have the same success they did at their last company
if they pull it off, they're a hero
if the company still tanks, whether in good faith or because you milked it to death to set yourself up for another big payday, then "it was just too far gone already. nothing CEO could do"
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>>740951139
Are you an ESL? I've never seen a more confusing and ill fitting counter argument in my life. Literally what the fuck are you talking about?
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>FUCK investors, we are free spirits, we make what we want and take risks
>*makes Demon's Souls for the 14th time*
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>>740950564
Refilling Estus "on the fly" by killing enemies was already in 3.
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>>740948042
Damn it's almost like all games there except for Sekiro are the exact same game which each successive one being worse than the previous one, with only DS2 breaking the chain because it's the worst piece of shit they have made
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>>740951108
Have they banned you from /pol/?
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>>740948047
They made this so yeah they can.
But also fuck off I'm tired of everything in the industry being fortnite-themed for kids go fuck yourself, you disgusting manbaby bitchpussy.
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>>740948047
>>740951325
Gook moot removed my image so I'll try again
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>>740948085
Easy money, they have a small brain.
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>>740948104
FFX has not a bit of variety.
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can't wait for more AC
can't wait for fromsoft to revive Frame Gride to have fantasy AC with melee emphasis
can't wait for fromsoft to revive either King's Field or Shadow Tower to have a dungeon crawler with modern combat
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>>740948085
see
>>740949091
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>>740951490
How do you feel about Dark Souls 5 tho?
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>>740947273
>translation: we no longer have the team to make bloodborne 2 sekiro 2 eldenring 2 dark souls 4 demon souls 2 and can only make multiplayer asset flips now
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>>740951586
unless they do something interesting gameplay wise i'm not interested
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>>740948047
Ironically, the moment this>>740947273
fag took the wheel was when they mostly stopped doing games in different genres and settings and the ones they did got lukewarm receptions or are considered some of the worst of all time in SB Heavy Armor's case.
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>>740947293
>Kadokawa
Maybe if these fucking retards didn't kill their golden goose they wouldn't have to resort to pressuring others to line their pockets.
It always feels like the people in charge of companies like this should never be in charge in the first place.
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>>740947273
Why haven't they announced the new game yet?
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>>740951817
Getting promoted above your competency is common. You do good at your previous job so here's a more important one oops you suck at the new one.
Especially Japan loves seniority over everything else so if someone stays at a company for 30 years they eventually flop into some management or executive position
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>>740951490
>can't wait for
Gonna be waiting for a while champ
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>>740950669
to be as charitable as possible, I think the creative curiosity for Duskborn and Nightreign were focused on improving the design of their multiplayer functionality
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>>740947464
>>740950496
After seeing people play Silksong without ever using tools or silk skills I realize you're legitimately just terrible at videogames.
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>>740950669
>>740951601
Both Nightreign and Duskbloods are done by separate internal teams and not the main one that did Elden Ring headed by Miyazaki. He has nothing to do with either of those 2 games.
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>>740951204
Man, I wonder how many out there still promote their CEOs from within. Given the ring around the rosy the current major CEOs keep doing I doubt there's many.
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>>740947273
Didn't they make like two spinoffs recently? That's the safest possible after a remaster.
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>>740951724
Tough shit, you are getting Dark Souls 5
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>>740950571
Smart people are usually smart in one direction. Like in tech or in mechanics or in logistics etc. Naturally, people who are smart with money are not very smart with things that produce that money, they just know the general scheme of how making money works and apply it to everything. And it usually works, in that it does make money, at a cost of diminishing quality of the service they offer, but it's not really their problem. They have a function and they fulfill it.
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>>740952075
Trashbloods is made by him
Not like it matters anyways
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>>740952075
He has everything to do with Duskbloods, it's been his main project since ER wrapped up and he's been talking about wanting to do something Tarkov-inspired for longer. Only Nightreign was totally hands off, it was Ishizaki's project to let him get experience directing a game.
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>>740947273
FUCKING BASED!!!!!
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>>740952154
No? Their latest game was Elden Ring Nightreign, which is a continuous multiplayer roguelike, something they haven't done before and Miyazaki wanted to let new blood on the team cut their teeth through this game. It was experimental, and people generally liked it. Before that they published the DLC expansion to Elden Ring, then Armored Core 6 (First one in a decade, doesn't play like the others), then Elden Ring itself.
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>>740952091
they usually do if the company is doing well and the current CEO is retiring
then the leaving one usually has an heir apparent that assumes the role without much fuss
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>>740952339
>>740952397
Oh you're right, my apologies. I stand corrected. I was under the impression he wasn't involved with that one. I'll admit I've barely kept up with that one since finding out it's Switch 2 exclusive.
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>>740952000
>After seeing people play Silksong without ever using tools or silk skills
I've seen a lot of people use tools but yeah silk skills generally get forgotten about. It's a shame because they're really fucking strong, even the base silk spear is a great ranged option.
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>>740949390
This
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>>740952000
Tools and silk skills are generally not very useful, the former since they're very limited and if you're retrying boss fights will potentially have you run out so I just ignored them for bosses and silk skills suck in Silksong compared to Hollow Knight where they were your best source of damage so I end up just rather saving them silk for healing. The actual shitter filter that people need to use more is the claw line. That shit is insanely busted.
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I want fromsoft to make switch exclusives so cult-tards are locked on one device
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>>740952000
What the fuck would you know faggot you never played a videogame in your life
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>>740952925
I do too because I own one and a powerful PC so I win either way
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>>740948047
Miyazaki made a girls’ boarding school simulator for VR but no one bought it so he had to go back to grimdark fantasy slop.
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>>740947672
>they keep making the same game
>why do they not make the same game
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SHITEREIGN 2
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>Demon's Souls
>Dark Souls
>Dark Souls
>Dark Souls
>Bloodsouls
>Elden Souls

stunning
brave
creative and groundbreaking
always re-inventing themselves, with new gameplay, etc
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>>740948042
>Bloodborne
>>best game on both the PS4 and 5
Not that hard when its the only game on the platform
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>>740953585
better than all the western slop in this decade
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>>740952457
>havent done before
pffffffffff
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>>740949390
It was made against the law because it was antisemetic, goy
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>>740948047
Sekiro, but it is also lifeless because every moving thing is hostile.
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Fromdrones and Nintendies have a lot in common, apparently.
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>>740950421
Elden ring.
Invasions there are especially non-con because they target coop casual specifically and they had to come up with an entire mod to hide from us.
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>>740948042
>Elden Ring
>absolute kino
Genuinely how? You say Dark Souls 3 is a mediocre sequel but Elden Ring does absolutely nothing that Dark Souls 3 didn't already do but better.
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If you have to fight off shareholders, that means it's already over for you. They're not gonna give up, they're gonna keep wearing Miyazaki down until he either caves or leaves. It's a losing battle. The sharks aren't gonna give up just because you fought them off once. Once they've found you, it never stops.
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>>740947273
I don't get "investors"
>company is doing thing and everything is working well and nicely
>invest in company
>company is still doing well but now you want to change things up
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>>740947273
While I'm glad they're making the games they want to make, I can't say I'm a fan of the new online focus. I play these games primarily by myself, so basically forcing me to play online is just going to make me not play the games.
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>>740947273
All this grandstanding but the next big game is 100% going to be elden ring 2 in everything but the name.
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>>740954509
PVP has been getting more and more of a focus in every game they make since Dark Souls 1. The signs were already there.
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>>740947273
So where's the followup to Armored Core 6?
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>>740954473
>"You're doing good, but let me (person with zero knowledge of video games, who also doesn't play video games) tell you how to do even better!"
Is how it goes, because shareholders are always trying to make more money, good enough is never enough.
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>>740948938
>SOTE is probably the worst DLC Fromsoft has ever made
You guys are such fake posers
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>>740952501
Wonder what caused the current shuffling then
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>>740953585
Why make something too different when the formula works?
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>>740952000
most people are very bad at games, and even people who are good at games dont typically want to play games with a high learning curve
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>>740954629
And I have easily ignored it up to this point. Same goes with Co-Op. Hope they make more single-player friendly games again, otherwise I guess I'm just getting pushed out their playerbase.
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>>740954682
>way worse exploration and open world that's every issue with Elden Ring but worse
>enemy design way less fun
>some of the worst bosses in the entire game with only 3 exceptions being Rellana, Messmer and Bayle with the rest ranging from ok to just straight up awful
>fuck up the world building cause they want to have Radahn be the final boss
>make it one of the worst fights anyway
SOTE is a downgrade in basically every single way from Elden Ring. It improves on nothing and makes every flaw Elden Ring had worse.
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>>740954473
They don't give a fuck about the health of the company or being sustainable. They see growth potential, they buy in, pump the stock up, sell high, and then move onto the next thing while somebody else has to clean up the big stinky shit they left

Yes, these people should be hanging from lamp posts
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>>740947273
>>740947293
Cool story, bro. Why doesn't he push back against the woke DEI propaganda? Why do I have to pick body type A or B? Why do I have to pick voice 1, 2, 3, or 4? He's just yapping trash and coping
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>>740954931
True, but neither of the Silksong nor Elden Ring have high learning curves, ER especially.
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>>740947273
>Company that's been copypasting the game for for 17 years rejects safe sequels
lmao, okay marketing department, you sure tricked the gamers with this one.
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>>740954964
>>way worse exploration and open world that's every issue with Elden Ring but worse
It was better, no one fucking likes Liurnia of the Lakes' big empty field and the same regurgigated churches/estus seeds/giant trees with asylum demons/etc.
>>enemy design way less fun
It was about the same
>>some of the worst bosses in the entire game with only 3 exceptions being Rellana, Messmer and Bayle with the rest ranging from ok to just straight up awful
Everything I need to know right there
>>fuck up the world building cause they want to have Radahn be the final boss
Oh wow, just like the Ringed City DLC
>>make it one of the worst fights anyway
LMAO

You're a fucking retard, the worst DLC ever made by far was Ashes of Ariandel and every single person who plays these games know it
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>>740947273
any mod to replace the body type selection during character creation to gender selection in elden ring
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>>740947273
its Jewish investor play , investors want them stuck to sequels because they already own those IPs and will profit from From being stuck milling them, Fromsoft own Elden Ring IP since they got Bandai to transfer full rights to them (probably bought their "half") , this opens a path for From to be fully independant and own and self fund/publish all their games if they keep making new IPs because if they, like with Elden Ring , start owning all of their IPs , they can just go independant with backlog of games they can make without needing to reinwent the wheel, while if they stick to sekiro , dark souls , demon souls , bloodborne ,armored core , they arent building a backlog of self owned IPs that will make it easy to divorce from any publisher
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>>740954914
the issue is acting like that's stunning and brave
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>>740948047
its not edgy grimdark enough, go back to cod and fartnite
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ALL their games are the same rollslop lmao nice creativity there
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>>740954334
There's plenty of fat in Kadokawa before it hits Myiazaki with an ultimatum. It would be insane to force or have him outed right now. Investors are mostly greedy as fuck, but they aren't mostly dumb.
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>>740955212
Literally every argument is just "nuh uh" so I'm not even going to bother responding to that beyond accepting that you've conceded and you're just an NPC who doesn't know how to think for himself and just parrots other people's opinions which is why you can't actually articulate your disagreements.
>the worst DLC ever made by far was Ashes of Ariandel
Ashes of Ariandel is a close 2nd worst but it's biggest crime is being inoffensive and basically a filler DLC but doesn't have anything egregiously wrong with it it's massively saved by how good the Ringed City is which actually capped off the game with a bang(you trying to compare Radahn with Gael is a laughably terrible counter argument cause the latter is plenty of people's favourite boss in the entire game and made perfect sense narrative but literally nobody says nu-Radahn is their favourite, in fact I've yet to see one person ever even claim he's better than his base game counterpart) unlike SOTE which ends Elden Ring with a whimper so no SOTE is worse than AoA and the worst DLC. Also you unironically using the "w-well this one's worse" is basically an implicit concession that you agree that SOTE is only in contention for last place and not a good DLC but you're just a pedantic dick head fanboy who wants to argue for the sake of it cause it hurts you fragile ass feelings when popular thing s insulted.
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>>740947464
I think their games are shit but it is Fromsoft's vision and I'm glad they're putting that over whatever "security" beancounters demand from them.
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>>740955885
Just the fact that executives want more safe/popular stuff it's a hell of a good sign for Miyazak and co because it obviously means that they have a lot of creative pull and are doing what they want. We have too much executive pressure on this industry.
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>>740955738
>Investors are mostly greedy as fuck, but they aren't mostly dumb.
Most of them actually are that fucking dumb though, the reason why they can get away with it is because the system is basically set up so it's impossible for them to truly fail. If something doesn't work out in their favor they get a golden parachute and its no biggie, it's everyone else that has to clean up their mess.
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>>740949675
John Carmack already told us story to a video game is the same as story inside of a porn video. It is expected to be there but it is not important at all. Go watch your movie games on youtube fagit.
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Investors will get the last laugh because this is clown world.
I told my jewish neighbor to use his leverage to keep the parrying and rollslop to a minimum. He said to shut up and watch them insert more trans celebrities and rappers.
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ER exposed a lot of "hardcore" gamers
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>>740951986
>focused on improving the design of their multiplayer functionality
>no multiplatform servers
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>>740955738
>Investors are mostly greedy as fuck, but they aren't mostly dumb.
Dude, you're not seriously saying this right now when the Space X grift is still piping hot, investors are as dumb as your average boomer spending their monthly retirements on slot machines in Vegas
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>>740947668
retard
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The amount of butthurt FromSoft causes by just quietly and steadily developing good games is insane, lmao
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>>740948047 ferit nose c:
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>>740956428
Fair enough, but you are talking about c-suite executives, I was mentioning investors, like people in the board of directors. They care about losing money as much as they care about making it.
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>>740954130
>non-con
>literal con
Are you completely fucking stupid?
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>>740957994
Big time investors are all privvy to insider infomation that tells them when its time to sell their stocks too, when stuff goes to shit because of their demands that just means its time to cash out
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>>740956915
>the Space X grift is still piping hot
?
Space X has a deliverable product though. Starlink is hugely successful.
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Elden Ring selling for 1 billion dollar out of a 100M production is not enough.
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>>740947464
>game asks you to push a button a lot
:D
>game asks you to push a different button a lot
I:<
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Fromsoft have been making unsafe games?
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>MUH CREATIVITY cries the man who made:
>Demon's Souls
>Dark Souls (Demon's Souls 2)
>Dark Souls 3
>Victorian Dark Souls
>Open World Dark Souls

Okay buddy.
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>>740947273
they added body types I trust a single word coming out of that dirty mouth
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>>740958968
It's funny how the (((investors))) actually don't care about unsafe games.
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>>740948047
None of them are edgy at all there's not even any gore
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>>740957698
Envy is one of the cardinal sins for a reason.
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>>740949863
every time michigan starts talking my ears perk up
>SHUT YOUR STINKHOLE AND START SHOOTING
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>>740947273
Actually fucking based. Don't let these jewish cocksuckers walk all over you. Tell them to eat shit.
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>>740959027
Don't forget coop dark souls and extraction dark souls
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MIYAZAKI AC6 DLC AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
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>>740947464
This is why Duskbloods is exciting, but people are moaning about that anyway
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>valuable games
Doko?
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If they had any balls, they'd do a game in the Eternal Ring setting (That they made) with their modern gameplay.
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>>740947851
No one who plays fromschlop has above 85 IQ
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>>740959685
>DLC
kys
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>>740947273
literally the only person left saving gaming.
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>>740947273
the world doesn't deserves him.
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>>740959685
This, but as a full game.
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>>740947273
OUR FUARKING HERO
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>>740947273
>"Valuable games"
>Rollslop game iteration #384528472877

Imagine being a fromcuckboy
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>>740960054
>>740960089
>>740960306

>body type A and B
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>>740948085
have you considered the charts where moba vidya go up big green arrow?
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Its funny how /v/ will spin this into a negative. The same board that goes on and on and on about how corporations, jews, shareholders, elites and failed auteurs are monopolizing or homogenizing gaming think this guy should bend the knee. I'm starting to wonder if its just a complete, terminally online anti-Frosmfotware crusade.
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>>740959027
>sekiro
>the vr game you won't try
>amored core

At least be honest tranny.
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>>740960557
Here's your valuable, spic
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>>740959846
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>>740949262
/v/ worships autistic mediocre Japanese men the same way reddit worships black criminals
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>>740960604
>gundam
bing bing wahoo
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>>740960668
>knight
cling clang rollan
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>>740947273
And then the investors vote you out/sue you because you didn't bend the knee. That's what you get for selling your soul to them.
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I just can't understand investors
You want money ? Cool, me too so just let me work in peace if my company is already making billions
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>>740960732
Who are you quoting?
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>>740950098
are you seriously under the impression that the anon who made that picture played any of those games rather than searching for "old based role rpg games" ?
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>>740960557
>Its funny how /v/ will spin this into a negative.
No one is doing that. People are just pointing how illogical his statement is when has done nothing but put out Soulslike for 15 years, i.e safe sequels
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>>740960771
who were you quoting?
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>>740953349
I want more Bloodborne music
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>>740947893
Ok you make infinite money
But you should make infinite money+1
You see fortnite ? Make that
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>>740960557
>homogenizing gaming
Yeah, fromschlop is very varied and not at all homogenized.
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if you don't like from games.. don't play them?
idgi having strong opinions about things you don't like seems very autistic to me
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>>740948047
I wouldn't call armored core 6 grim dark
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>>740959963
I have 89 though
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>>740960856
If you don't like opposing opinions.. don't read them?
idgi ngl troon you seem kinda dum fr fr
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>>740947668
>f
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>>740949675
Peak
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>>740959142
kek
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>>740955063
for a long time, japs thoughts that's what th entire west wanted and saw it as a nothing burger word

then they realized, it was just investors, not customers, better example is the Palworld guys on the character creator
"Wait, dont westerners like to do ugly characters?"
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I will buy the next dark fantasy action RPG by From Software, directed by Hidetaka Miyazaki
I will spend the first playthrough seething about unfair design until I learn to deal with it
I will spend subsequent playthroughs exploring different builds and engaging with enemies and bosses in many ways
I will use a randomizer to further enhance replayability and explore gameplay that would not be possible or encouraged in the unmodded game
I will read and post various interpretations of the extremely obtuse story and lore while deriding youtubers and their attempts of twisting From's vibes based worldbuilding into a unified narrative
I will post cute fanart of the female characters and their bare feet
I will reply to filtered shitters with "filtered", "git gud" and "Shazam lost"
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>>740950054
Crazy sad to see bait posters this desperate. Take this (you) for your poor family
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>>740947464
This
Just time your rolls chuddie
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>>740960856
not being able to understand or notice market trends and how they function and how it impacts the available entertainment media at any given time is what is autistic you fuckin sperg.
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>>740949854
speaks more to you then the game desu
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>>740961051
What turn-based game is this?
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>>740961052
>notice market trends
but elden ring and its dlc shattered records
i really don't understand the pow of a hater
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>>740947464
Lmao, spbp
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>>740947273
>WE MAKE WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE
>Even if that includes live service slop like Nightreign and Duskblood.
I rather be in another DS2/DS3 Bandai ordered trilogy timeline again.
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>>740960986
i kneel zanzibart-sama..
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>>740961051
I still don't see how this proves your point. The player is just shit at the game
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fromsoft have done literally nothing but safe sequels to dark souls for the last 15 years...
its actually more embarrassing that them making open world shit and extraction slop was done on purpose with no outside pressure to chase shitty trend genres
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they should do another survival horror game
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What's the difference between selling out and just being naturally passionate about things that end up being profitable?
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Elden Ring release was the last time /v/ was good and that was 4 years ago.
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>>740961139
Nta but that's the point, elden ring's success will influence other entertainment to be more similar to it.
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The funniest thing about the discord raided, contrarian whinging on places like /v/ about too much same-game syndrome going on with FROM is that it does not do anything. Normalfag had their Action RPG cherry popped with Elden Ring and they love it. They hold it as high as people did the LOTR trilogy for high fantasy right after it concluded. So even IF FROM for some reason did something retarded and uninspired like Elden Ring 2 followed by Dark Souls 4, the profits would be massive.
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>>740960973
you're braindead
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>>740958801
Starlink is hugely successful
>Nigga no one’s using that shit, it sells itself on a gimmick
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>>740947464
It is funny how the key to being good at Elden Ring is just knowing when to roll towards the boss or away from him.
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>>740949675
The fanboys can't refute that image. Sekiro is the only one that tried to mix up that premise.
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>>740947273
sorry fromdrones.
I don't even like souls games but I do feel for you. The devs might hold the line but eventually they will fall under investors pressure.
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>based chinese company comes in and demands Dark Souls 4
>sissy FromSoft says you WILL get Duskbloods 2 on Switch 3
many cases
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>>740949675
>>740962001
why would I refute kino
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>>740947273
As if not/barely iterating on the gameplay for 15+ years isn't safe. Even Armored Core got soulsofied to a large degree. Sekiro was the only one you could argue was a risk if you wanna be really charitable.
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>>740947464
then. dont. play. those. games. simpleas
fucking queer
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>>740947464
>hitting R1

PSbro...
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>>740947273
But DeS2, Bloodborne 2, or Sekiro 2 would all be interesting games. I guess if he doesn't have any new ideas about those worlds he doesn't want to do fart something out.
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>>740962496
Sekiro was just a Tenchu game that turned into souls-lite
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>>740962879
and?
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>>740963152
So it really wasn't a risk.
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>>740951817
remember that kadokawa is just now, literally just now in 2026, feeling that they have been putting out too many isekai
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They've made the same fucking game AT LEAST six times
It's been Demon's Souls again and again and again and no one seems to believe me when I say this
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>>740947273
>literally rehashed demon's souls for like 5+ times
>literally made a fucking battleroyale/extraction souls
>never made more moldbreaking games like Bloodborne or Sekiro
I wonder, why do I not believe him?
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>>740964117
Well you sound like a meth addict, no one's going to believe anything you say when you crash out over something everyone knows and isn't even important
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>>740953585
As derivative as FromSoft's offerings are, I can in fact say they are games and decent games at that. That's more than any westoid dev has done in a fucking decade and that's hilariously sad. They're not even trying and they make better games than any western dev has in years.

It's also why I don't get the hatred for Japs: they make games that are decent for the most part. Not movie games, not soon to be dead multiplayerslop games but actual curated experiences that can be called games
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>>740964117
Go play final fantasy if you want schizophrenic developers
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>>740962496
AC is still not a soulslike but Sekiro is.
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>>740947464
>>740947273
kek this, thats all they make, dodge roll, r1 the game
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>>740964589
The only japs that make decent games are Capcom and Fromsoft. Every other is movie shit like the Yakuza series, shitty, overpriced JRPGslop like the Tales of and Trails series, or just shitty, overpriced AA games like whatever Xseed/Marvelous put out.
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>>740964383
>rehased demons souls 5+ times
>moldbreaking games like Bloodborne or Sekiro
Can't be both buddy. DeS broke the mold, Bloodborne and Sekiro switched up the formula while the DS series was updating it.

And it's the norm for sequels to just iterate on the previous title. The difference with Souls is that Fromsoft put out 6 games in a 10-year period, so you noticed it.

Ironically they're being criticized for making video games as fast as a studios used to in the 90s, even though the only reason they made them all so fast one after another is because every single game was successful.

Elden Ring is the game everyone is performatively sick of, and it sold the most out of all of them.
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>>740960581
That still makes most of his works Dark Souls rehashes. I know numbers can be hard for you people.
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>>740951213
>It's so safe
>if it's so safe, why did it rape your mind?
He's not brown and while you might not be, you're spiritually brown, aka retarded. Fucking retard.
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>>740947273
Why can't more developers tell investor kikes to fuck off? Those niggers don't even play games and should have absolutely no input in creative director decisions just to attract as many npc niggercattle disposable income as possible.
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>>740965180
>even though the only reason they made them all so fast one after another is because every single game was successful.
Not even close. Capcom was shitting out games in the 90s and most were flops, because they kept cannibalizing each other.
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>>740950012
In what world is Duskbloods a safer bet for them vs just another Elden Ring / Dark Souls / Sekiro ????????????
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>>740947273
Troons will still find a way to complain about the only good AAA company.
Man I love From Software so much.
>>740947464
Llike clockwork.
You deserve to play woke slop 24/7.
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>>740947273
what do "investors" mean by safer? more degenerate and gay? more african?
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>>740965646
Troons are the biggest Fromsoft fans though? Didn't one of the most popular souls youtuber just come out as a tranny this year?
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>>740965361
Nah you're definitely an ESL
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>makes literal Demons Souls asset flips for 15+ years now
>only game that was different were Sekiro and Armored core
>both have no sequels
>while they continue to shit out safest souls rollsloppa but [here insert gimmicky shit like Neightrein]
Does that nigga have negative self awareness?
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>>740965950
Yes, let's completely disregard discord troons raids going on for almost a decade now.
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>>740947273
omg sir, so based! cant wait to use this article in my rightoid grifter reactionary propaganda
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>>740966125
Discord raid being troons is nothing but your own headcanon. Meanwhile troons loving Fromsoft games is the reality.
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>>740947273
>safer sequels
>when everything miyazaki makes sells gangbusters and becomes a cultural hit
are investors actually genuinely unironically fucking retarded?
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>>740964989
the nip indie scene needs to come to rise again, any good indie game comes from europe or america despite western AAA releases being utter dogshit
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>>740947273
Fromsoft is just as creatively bankrupt as the average AAA developer.
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>>740966570
>are investors actually genuinely unironically fucking retarded?
Yes, yes they are.
These are people who blindly trust statistics, trends, analysts and want an infinitely growing audience.
If they had their way, the whole industry would be making gacha games.
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>>740966570
>yeah line went up but it didn't quite go up enough
It's just jews being jews
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They've released the same game 6 fucking times,

It cant get safer
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>>740947273
>HIDETAKA MIYAZAKI: "FUCK INVESTORS, WE MAKE WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE"
that's not what he said, he said that he's fine with the current state of things and he'd rather keep it that way and he said it in the most herbivore and non-confrontational way possible.

if investors want to shove a hand up his ass and tell him how he should run the company then he can do nothing about it (unless he leaves and starts his own studio like Kojimbo did).
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>>740947273
Miyazaki said a core concept of his games were that some other company, most likely the publisher, would shoulder part of the cost, so no one game would ever kill the company. That’s why they’ve worked with such diverse companies and have console exclusives.
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>>740966705
it's true, but at least they retained their artistic talent
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>>740966134
>reactionary
what fucking year is this?
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>>740947273
but the only good game series fromsoft has made was dark souls.
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>>740967006
Demons Souls on PS3 was unpolished but great
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>>740966834
That was the most retarded thing he ever decided, imagine if he had pocketed the full profits of Elden Ring, he would have the money to publish his games and other companies games with that amount of revenue. After Sekiro it was clear that Fromdrones would buy whatever slop his studio made and you go Vaativdiya et al. shilling them all as a business model.
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>>740947273
>michael zaki says something gigabased
must be a day that ends in y
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>>740960973
Correct
>>740961560
Retard
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>>740966308
Cope.
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All the Fromsoft hate ITT is pure jealousy and retardation.
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>>740947273
I can't stand the people on /v/ of all places that want Dark Souls 4, Bloodborne 2 and Sekiro 2. You are fucking soulless golems.
Let them make new games.
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imagine telling the guy that took a massive gamble on a passion project that spawned an entire genre that ended in a titanic success in its most recent iteration that he needs to play things safer.
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>>740947273
can’t they sue him for this based on ford vs dodge brothers?
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>>740967450
With what? Reality supports my claim, seems like you're no less delusional than troons.
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>>740949183
>roll x40
>wait 50 minutes for an opening
>hit light attack
>repeat until boss dies
such a fun an innovative gameplay
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>>740947464
This
I expected so much more
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>>740966705
You are retarded. You should be forced to play "the average AAA" game over and over, so maybe you'll start to appreciate what From has been doing.
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>>740968175
That time is not even enough to finish the game.
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>>740966794
yeah thats the irony. "we wont bend over backwards for VCs" okay, but being japanese Infinity Ward making endless call of duty style sequels over and over looks exactly the same from the outside.
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>won't bend over for investors
>won't bend over for industry trends
>won't bend over for whining journalists
>won't bend over for /v/
>just makes good vidya and moves on to make more good vidya
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>>740968508
>>won't bend over for industry trends
Open world and extraction shooters
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>>740968508
the last game they released was chasing roguelite co-op slop that nobody asked for.

Interestingly this means that internal pressure can be just as strong, if not a stronger pull to following trends than it would have appeared. People seems to think that institutional free will naturally converges into something that looks like independent thought without explaining what that mechanism to bridge the two even is.
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>>740968558
They want to make those because they like them.
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>>740947293
>nightrein and tendiebloods
>valuable games
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>>740968324
I cleared every single dungeon I could find, killed every boss I could find, finished the game with Ranni's ending.
If I missed something, tough luck. Towards the end I think I even used some online map resource that showed where there would be dungeons, because finding needles in a haystack became so much worse once you'd clear like 95% of all points of interest.

I fucked up the manor questline though, I accidentally started Rykard fight and killed him before I got to investigate the secret wall, give away all the letters etc. Every NPC just bounced after he was dead and that was the end of it.
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>>740966794
yeah it can. they're not like nintendo
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>>740955762
based you raped that dumb nigger
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>>740968280
Every game after DS1 began to water down a lot of friction mechanics or just removed them outright. In Elden Ring, sites of grace are omnipresent, removing any form of tension. I can go on if you like.
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>>740968896
I think you've been playing too many kojima games
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>>740947273
>"we reject safer sequels"
>most successful game is "not dark souls 4"

lol
lmao
hbao+
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>>740968084
You described Elden Ring and reason why I will never understand why faggots think of that game so highly. Older rollsloppa had some grace in enemy design meanwhile ER is just eternal AoE spazzing with dogshit disjointed hitbox tracking. It seems that even FromSoft bought into redditor "git gud" memes.
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>>740947273
Was it Sony? I know they've been steadily buying Kadokawa stocks for a couple years now in order to increase their monopoly on anime (and obtain From in a roundabout way after burning bridges with them), but I'm not sure if even SIE would have the balls to say this shit to any game developer.
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>>740948047
>Can't they make a different type of setting for a change
I really liked how colorful sekiro was, it felt very alien not just because of the japanese setting but also the whole mibu village and palace with the ayy lmaos dancing on roofs
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>>740965646
You literally play games for normies, shut the fuck up faggot.
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>>740947273
>wake up
>kill things
>you can resurrect when dying because [plot device]
>entire game is about killing big things until you run out of things to kill

virtually every fucking souls game is identical to the last one, they haven't changed anything in the formula except for sekiro which got immediately bombarded by angry "fans" that didn't like they couldn't roll slop their way to victory for the 12th time in a row

miyazoter acts like his company is this pioneer of creativity when they were even famous for rehashing armored core for 10+ years before souls sloppa, give me a break
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>>740969352
why are you angry
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>>740947273
>a company makes something that just works
>investors want to destroy it just because
What is going on inside their heads? Do they want kill a goose that lays golden eggs? I will ignore the quality of the games, it's not important.
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>>740969451
>evry gam u pres bottun so evry gam saem
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>>740947464
SPBP, the format got raped beyond recognition, and that raping was far safer than anything the meany shareholders would suggest as evidenced by these games getting progressively worse and progressively selling more.
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>>740947273
>remakes demons souls for the 10 time
>combat and enemy design has not changed in almost 20 years
>FUCK THE MAN! WE ONLY DO RSIKY AND INOVATIVE GAMES
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>>740948463
Read the first reply screencap. It's not that he doesn't want to make certain games or series, it's that he doesn't want any corporate suits coming in and telling his company how to do things. That's exactly what soured his relationship with Playstation, they endured nearly two decades of Sony's constant BS only to be shunned, then welcomed back, then shunned again by them. Fucking Activision treated them better than Sony.
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>>740947273
Valuable games?
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>>740969451
Every game after DeS is just an iteration of the last. The formula is largely the same, but with a couple of new "additions" that are ultimately worthless mechanics that players will rarely engage with.

DS1 was just a more polished and ambitious version of DeS.

DS2 was a downgrade from DS1 in nearly everything but combat. Dual wielding was added, but it's hardly something that elevates the system.

Bloodborne only sped up the attack animations, added a quickstep, guns(Which are secretly shields regardless of what anyone tells you) the rally system which looks cool at first but ends up being useless after realizing that the combat(just like the previous games) is reactive rather than proactive. Bloodborne only removed more features than it added. The rings were gone, the magic system was downgraded and the armor became a cosmetic item instead of an upgradeable piece of equipment. The blood gems are a neat idea.

DS3 is easily the most shallow sequel from soft ever released, almost no significant changes compared to the last 3, the new mechanics it adds(Weapon Arts) are completely useless.

Elden Ring is basically DS3.5, it's new mechanics are mostly underutilized. Everything else is the same.

Fromsoft was always a lazy developer.
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>>740969482
Just reminding you that the average channer is not much better than the average normie.
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>>740970249
ACVI is DS3.75
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>>740947273
They've been making the same game since Dark Souls 1.
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>>740960940
fecond
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>>740966570
>are investors actually genuinely unironically fucking retarded?
you don't understand. line must go up EVEN FASTER
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>>740955738
>Investors are mostly greedy as fuck, but they aren't mostly dumb.
You have no idea how fucking retarded these money guys can actually be sometimes.
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>>740969451
they haven't bothered with a in-world justification for why the player respawns, why the world resets, or why the player absorbs money since Demons Souls.
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>>740947273
This is how you make good games. And now he can finally refine the PvPvE gameplay on Switch 2.
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>>740947464
lmao you really made the fromtards seethe
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>>740955738
>>740971174
Another one
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>>740947464
fuck me ER DLC was pure cancer

there is no way to push this retarded roll spam and further, at this point they need a gameplay redesign
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>>740968175
Same. I couldnt even bother with the last zones dungeons such as the snow biome, because its always the same shitty cave or dungeon with the same gargoyle enemies or other filler you've fought for 400th time. There's only one dungeon I actually loved it's the hidden one in radahn's boss arena. But yeah, I just rushed towards the legacy dungeons and deleted the game once I got the ranni's ending. DS2 looks good in comparison to this open world slop.
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>>740972012
So glad I didn't buy it lmao. I knew it was going to be the same shit but even worse due to more unfair boss patterns. Even the normies didn't like the dlc due to the absurdity of artificial difficulty it created.
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I own stock and if they continue this approach I sue. Simple as.
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>>740947464
The sad part is that there's no real rebuttal to this. If the best player in the world was to make a video breaking down what they're doing to new players, it would be things like "Now here I'm going to dodge 5 times in a row to the side, then at the end of the boss' combo I'm going to dodge forward one time, putting just close enough to get in 1 light attack during his 0.5 animation recovery."
And that'd be it. Because that's mostly all you're ever expected to be able to do. That's how they're designed to be now.
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>>740971395
Fucking hell.
>Why didn't you take advantage of the earthquake disaster?
These people are not human.
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>>740948047
i dont mind grimdark, but im tired of shitty writing
how the fuck they still dont have a decent writer on the team that can write a single coherent quest and plot that isnt full of plotholes and retarded mistakes
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>>740948042
Agreed with the exception of ER being kino. It's the Dark Souls 2 2 flop level in terms of originality, gameplay and overall downgrade of the worldbuilding. They tried to put Sekiro level bosses into Dark Souls 3 type of combat.
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>>740972016
Give them the benefit of the doubt -- it was the first "open-world" meme game in the series, coming on the back of an "enclosed-world" franchise. Each time they change their Matrix, something suffers for that iteration; only to be redressed in the subsequent games...

>DnS to DS
- visuals
- atmosphere
+ map
+ combat
+variety
+ replay

>DS1 to DS2
- map design
- combat
+ mechanics
+ weapons and armour variety
+ online
+ DLC

>DS2 to DS3
- atmosphere
+ visuals
+ combat
+ bosses

>DS3 to ER
- open-world
- dungeons
- bosses
+ visuals
+ combat
+ weapons / armrour
+ replay
+ modding...
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>>740969597
>OH NO NO NO
glad we agree
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>>740947464
fippy bippy
fromcultists anally prolapsed
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>>740972752
>it was the first "open-world" meme game in the series
Yes you're right, they tried to experiment and the won the lottery in that regard. It grabbed the normies' attention and the game was a huge success from the sales point of view. Even those who has never touched a souls game bought it and gave it a shot.

>coming on the back of an "enclosed-world" franchise
And that's the ultimate sacrifice they paid - in my eyes the open world is a huge waste of time. Im sure you've seen the pasta of the "get on the horse then waste 15 minutes going to a different location only to hop on the horse again do repeat the same process until you find something interesting" that's how it felt to me. If you removed all the filler space stretching out the map nothing would truly be lost with the exception of reused bosses, enemies posing as bosses in caves/dungeons. ER would be a magnitude better if open world didnt exist and it would follow the old principle of the condensed map design. Leave all the legacy dungeons as they are, then take big locations such as caelid/siofra river and condense them to a more acceptable size.
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>>740947273
Isn't their next game going to be a fucking battle royale?
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>>740947464
>when they're slandering your goat and they're lowkey right
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>>740947293
how come investors of the parent company can even dare to say shit. its privately owned.
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>>740947273
>make safer sequels
Unironically what do they mean by this?
From already does nothing but release the same game with mild balance tweaks and a different aesthetic coat of paint every 3-5 years
Do they actually want just elden ring 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, n?
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>>740969135
And?
What the fuck is a friction mechanic and why does the lack thereof indicate the game is an average AAA slop?
Some people complain it's too hard, some others that it's casualized. You are all retarded. As long as they make what they want to make I'm happy.
There's nothing average about these games.
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>>740969352
I play good games that I like.
You are mentally ill.
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>>740972752
>>DS2 to DS3
>- atmosphere
Oh fuck off. Twin Princes, Oceiros, Friede and Ariandel, Midir, Flianore, Gael. The atmosphere is amazing.
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>>740971174
>>740971395
Absolutely, they can be, and I'm sure that the total amount of fucking ghouls thinking stuff like that is larger than we'd like to think, but I still believe that at the end of the day the majority actually isn't that sociopathic. It's like the discussion about secret societies of evil people actively going out to harm X or Y. It's not like that, sure there are a few, but the majority just doesn't care, and that where bad outcomes can come out from.
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>>740947293
>FromSoftware is known to push boundaries whenever possible
Must be pretty impossible then lol
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>>740947464
i can spam night comet just fine
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>>740975881
>literally every single game copies them
The delusion of people with From Derangement Syndrome is colossal.
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I won't be buying their next game but might get the soundtrack or artbook.
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>>740947464
Bro your Havel set ? Your fingerprint shield ? Your blasphemous blade ?
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>>740947273
Yes, because when I think of developers that don't just make safe sequels, From Software is the first to come to mind. How's Demon's Souls 10 by the way?
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>>740976435
You mean every single game of theirs copies their own.
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>>740969202
yeah i was really let down by the difficulty of ER bosses vs how easy normal enemies were
i beat even ER DLC no problem since i played all fromslop games and multiple clones, but i was so burned out by the end, the endless combos were breaking me mentally, not skill wise
its like a game designed to destroy any good will i had to FROM

its clear that despite popularity and more polished controls the gameplay itself took a nosedive
platforming is as shit as ever though, now we get even more now that controls are better
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>>740975147
By changing the focus of the series from being an immersive dungeon crawler to a mediocre action game solely focused on bosses. How else do you think Elden Ring sold 30 million copies?
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>>740976831
They made Nine Sols? Interesting.



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