HOLY FUCKING GIGABASED.
Fucking based i can't wait for Elden Ring 2, I hope we have to dodge bosses 30 times before hitting R1 once, 15 times in ER was too little.
>>740947464Fag
>>740947464fpbp
>>740947273they keep essentially making the same game.why not make highly wanted sequels like Bloodborne 2?
>>740947273>Proceed to make ds3, eldenring, nightreign and duskborn
>>740947273>Investors: "stop making live service slop and make great single player experiences">From: "NOOOO YOURE INFRINGING ON MY HECKING CREATIVITY"
>>740947273Elden Ring was safe as fuck though?
>>740947273He says as they release nightreign
>>740947719Treating your player base like they have 100iq is actually pretty limiting from a corporate perspective
>>740947273I don't even get why they're trying to fuck with him when letting them do whatever they want has produced some of the most acclaimed, hyped up stuff ever made. They aren't shitting out Kings Quest remasters or anything like that, your average Fromsoft game is now so highly anticipated that normalfags faint in excitement when one is announced, and it's almost always a highlight of the show it's revealed at. Like what the fuck are these retards at Kadokawa doing? Trying to muscle in and get credit for advising?
Every single first world country needs to severely limit the rights of investorsNothing can get done when you have a horde of Jews in your ear screaming that you need to make your product shit so you can sell it to sub80 IQs
Demon's Souls and Dark Souls>big hitsDark Souls 2>their biggest flopBloodborne>best game on both the PS4 and 5Dark Souls 3>mediocre sequelSekiro and Elden Ring>absolute kino in two entirely different wayGee I wonder why they reject the retard ass investor demand for safe sequels. It's almost like Fromsoft thrives on creating original IPs and they know it
>>740947273I'm honestly getting kind of tired of Fromsoft's super edgy grimdark slop. Can't they make a different type of setting for a change? Or are they literally incapable of that?
Why do (((investors))) feel like they know better than the man that made GOTY?
>>740948047you can play Final Fantasy whenever you want
>>740947293>recent poor performance>Elden Ring???
>>740947273This would be a bold stance if he wasn't just slopping out endless Dark Souls rehashes like most investors would be telling him to do anyway.
But they're making shit like Nightreign and the new switch game which are exclusively online Battle Royale shit
>>740947716they can take their money somewhere if they dont like it :)
>>740947273>the guy that has been making Dark Souls for nearly 15 years saying anything about creativity
>rejects safer sequels>shits out Dark Souls 6 every few yearsfuck off
>>740948047I want to see a modern take on Forever Kingdom's party based action system
>>740948047Are you le literally incapable of playing something else?
>Investor: Hello Mitsubishi san, please keep milking the souls piggies for more money>Miyazaki: UHMMM NO???? I MAKE WHAT I LE WANT TO MAKE!!>*makes more souls games anyway*
>>740947273So what they want to make is fucking dogshit?
>>740947273They should took arabs money and went private.
>>740948126Elden Ring has only sold like 30 million copies that's baby numbers. Imagine if they did Dark Souls 4 instead it would sell 5 million minimum!
>>740948042Dark Souls 2 sold 5 million in a year and is the highest rated dark souls game on metacritic.Keep seething
>>740947273So wait, does this mean they WON'T be making Elden Ring 2 or Dark Souls 4?Because that's kinda based
>>740948042Pretending Elden Ring is anything but Dark Souls 4 with a layer of GRRM's incest fetishism painted over it is bold.
>>740948350>>740948301>>740948345Discord trannies found this thread.
>>740947273They can make whatever they want to make but that doesn't mean what they're making isn't complete shit. From Softwares games are trash.
>>740948441>Imagine if instead of Dark Souls 4 they made Dark Souls 4uh?
>>740947273More Sekiro and less Dark Souls, Mitsubishi-san
>>740948345kek
>>740948490See >>740948487
>>740948126Line must go up, Anon.Elden Ring printed money and now everything that's not even more successful is poor performance.>cheap experimental game to give new employees more experience, that sold 5+ mil?poor performance>game entirely financed by Nintendo?poor performance>not releasing any new games in a year?poor performance
yea well i'm sure the big boys wanted open world dark souls because open worlds are generally big sellers and then the studio made open world dark souls
>>740948312NTA but yes, I love fromsofts game design and philosophies, I hate westernslop,
>>740948463Of course not sillyIt means they will make fucking shit because they want to, not because they are forced to
>>740948104>>740948312>how dare you ask for varietyFrom shills everyone
>>740948486If Elden Ring is Dark Souls 4 then Bloodborne is Demon's Souls 3
>>740948586How long ago did you transition?
>>740947464Spbp fromsoft haven't been creative or taken a risk for over 10 years
i have anti fromsoft fatigue. yes we get it you dont like the formula. other people do. there are 500 other games you can play you dont have to show up in every thread and be gay about your dislike for souls games
>>740948126Elden Ring came out 100 years ago. It's not recent
>>740947273>WE MAKE WHAT WE WANT TO MAKEwhich is fortnite clones, good for him
>>740948735But you still have not answered how long ago did you transition
>>740948047I don't mind the grimdark settings but I am getting kind of tired of every game having the same unintuitive, vague item description story telling. AC6 was refreshing cause it actually conveyed information to you normally.
>>740948462Elden Ring outperformed the entire Dark Souls trilogy
>>740947464this but unironically
>>740948104FF is also making edgy grimdark now
>>740947273>literally the safest GAAS trash imaginable built with reused assets
>>740948126i think they are complaining about the whole kadokawa empire, making a fuckton of anime which hasnt paid off? but ofc they want them to make elden ring every quarter to get as much money as possible until people eventually stop caring about form software's games so they can invest in other things
>>740948735I had Soulslike fatigue after playing Elden Ring cause the game is massively overrated and SOTE is probably the worst DLC Fromsoft has ever made and the first time I've ever felt the DLC is actually a downgrade from the base game but playing Wuchang and Lies of P recently reignited my love for the genre. Gonna play AI Limit next and then LOTF 1(2) after that in preparation for the sequel.
>>740948671They literally admitted this.>Just reflecting on your question and the history of my development...it carries the DNA. It carries the DNA of Demon's Souls and its very specific level design. And even in Bloodborne, the upper maps, the maps above ground, are all along the lines of Demon's Souls and very specifically designed.
>>740947273What could investors possibly be asking them to make, when everything they've made outside of Soulslop always sells worse than soulslop? I can only assume they tried to get them to turn Nightreign into a proper live service game.
>>740948487Keep seething faggot. Miyazaki hasn't had a good idea in 10+ years
They make whatever they want to make? hell yeah! this company is for the gamers!i just invested my kids college fund into From Software stock to show my support.
>>740948938Same, the problem is not soulslikesIs Fromshit making dogshit games from ER on
>>740948591>why doesn't a classical composer do a rap song for a change???
>>740947893it really just boils down to corporatism trying to make a science out of artin theory, if you can control enough variables, you can generate a repeatable processworks for hard products like soap; doesn't work for entertainmentor at least not foreverthe intangibles of creativity are essential to making good entertainment, and those are unpredictable and scarybut established corporations function entirely on predictionsthe two endeavors are incompatible
>>740947719Their last game was Armored Core.
>>740947273Elden Ring with the piss easy baby difficulty was already a safe bet and catering to investors.
>>740949085What a stupid analogy
>>740947273/v/ hates this
>>740948932Was it Kadokawa that fucked up merchandising Kemono Friends or am I thinking of a different out of touch conglomerate?
>>740948591>From shills everyoneI gave you variety.You're asking for a heavy metal album and whining that Tupac won't make one.
kek
>>740949103No actually it was Nightreign and before that it was Shadow of the Erdtree.
>>740947273Refusing to do what your investors and shareholders want you to do is extremely antisemetic.
>>740947273Oh boy, I can't wait for miyazaki to get pressured into making endless dark souls sequels, the future of gaming is bright
elden ring is worse than dark souls, uhhh night reign and duskbloods...just make dark souls 4 please an thank
>>740947719that's the point of the article and why the (((shareholders))) want them to make an Elden Ring 2 except From said nah we're going to make The Duskbloods and we're only going to release it on the Switch 2 get fucked
>>740947273Okay then make a game like Chromehounds instead of endless parade of ARPG dodge/parry-timing-simulators. You wont.
>>740949181Still a stupid analogy
>>740947273He is literally the best thing in gaming and this board is certified FROMChad turf. I don't give a fuck what any of you newfags have to say. FROMSOFT is the greatest company in all of gaming and their games are objectively better than everything else by a significant margin. Their D team "slop" is objectively better than everything as well. Their low effort is still top tier.
>>740949185>A DLC and a multiplayerslop cashgrabI mean REAL games.
>>740947273how is it his fault that the other licensed stuff bamco pumps out isn't as successful as his gamesthe suits need him, he won't get kicked out or inconvenienced
>>740949292Anon I love AC6 my point is Fromsoft are hardly strangers to safe and lazy cash grab games that exist purely to sell rather than be born from artistic vision.
>>740949187No, that's literally against the law.
>>740949181How does living as a barely human mongoloid feel
I hope the jews do their worst. Fuck Fromflopware.
>>740949292Niggertard, the games being fucking trash doesn't remove them from existence
>>740949091I don't get why these people didn't just invest in medicine or data brokering then if they didn't want to deal with letting established successful creatives do their job in peace. It's not like Fromsoft is fucking Ubishit with literal endless failure and ridicule under their belt, they're proven to be good at what they do for decades.
>>740947273>they say as they're making yet another roll-slop cloneuh-huh, and you addicts will pay full price for it too
>>740949181I genuinely do not understand how much of a buckbroken subhuman you have to be that you genuinely think "grimdark settings" is Fromsoft's entire identity and not the fucking gameplay that spawned an entire new subgenre.
>>740947273Absolutely, irrefutably based.
>>740949262>Still not answering how long ago he chopped his cock offbfff... You are no long for this world anon...
>>740947273The fuck is this hack even talking about? his tendie shit is literally the safest trash ever with nothing but assets of his previous games lmao
>Waiter, waiter another dark fantasy game with no story whatsoever.
>>740949179that would be them
>>740949091>art>video gamne
>>740947273Keep telling you anons he is the greatest video game developer we have ever seen but the shills want to keep on hating because they cannot control Fromsoftware or based Miyazaki. This man needs to be worshiped as the GOAT at this point.
>>740947893>Trying to muscle in and get credit for advisinghonestly it's probably this. Kadokawa is full of retards like that. Never forget they kill kemono friend as a franchise because one their exec was butthurt his "prediction" that the anime would flop missed the mark so goddamn bad.
>>740947464I say this (1000 hours in ER)
>>740949675and it keeps making billions because that idea is so good
>>740949183>hates classic GoWwhat? too problematic and "toxic masculine" for you, woketard?
I recently played through Space Marine 2 and the gunstrike/parry/dodge mechanics were so much more enjoyable than just stupidly rolling around left and right, I don't understand why this fuck does the same game over and over again without trying to innovate
>>740949262It isn't even remotely close how far ahead FROMSOFT is to every other developer. I'm insulted they can even be compared to any other devs. They are so much better than everything in gaming I'd even say they are the only developer worth preordering from.
>>740949675I have played them all and I had no idea there was a story
>>740949490Disingenuous pic, sometimes you have to talk to NPCs so they can become bad guys to kill and sometimes they die on their own.
>>740948823It was bizarre to see a From game where people talked with one another and not at the player. They even did it in the ER dlc, which surprised me immensely
>>740949675This is THE ultimate premise for a video game, seethe harder faggot
>>740949819If it's selling then that means it's good enough with no need to innovate
>>740947719They are implying Duskblood you low iq chimp
>>740947273This sounds like performative dogshit. Granted, Fromsoft games haven't reached the likes of Asscreed or COD in how they've been run into the ground but it's clearly not the case that they are trying to experiment and push new boundaries since almost every game is a souls like. Heck, make a new King's Field entry. At least a first person dungeon crawler has some opportunity for innovation or new experiences. If you really want to go the remake route, remake the first King's Field.
>>740949523it's not just the investors after a person reaches a certain level in management/leadership, everyone seems to have the belief that an upper manager in one industry can just jump industries and slot into an open position with zero issuesthat's how Hollywood studios ended up with ceos coming over from companies like Pepsi
>>740948463Miyazaki himself said that he doesn't like sequels. The only exception, being after the shitshow that was DS2 he reluctantly took over the reigns to give Dark Souls a proper sendoff with 3.
>>740949943>they didn't mean this safe game they mean this even more safe and derivative gameCool thanks for making my argument stronger when I was being generous and giving Fromsoft the benefit of the doubt.
>>740949918I guess? I still love it but I genuinely believe that SM2 specifically is something that he should take a loot at, the mechanics are addictive and keep you in the fight, shit I'd love to see a grimdark medieval game with massive amounts of enemies like that
Poorly designed game for slopeaters.
>>740949490fuck you, kings quest 5 is evil and sucks ass >oh, you didnt go to this screen in the other edge of the map the game tells you not to go and solve a maze right after the start and went to an easy to reach screen instead?>yeah you couldnt save the mouse and softlocked the game, you wont know about it though because you can still do other stuff and progress for a few hours, fuck youfuck this game, so easy to tell it was made by a women. fucking vile evil shit
>>740947273Says the guys who keeps refurbishing the same game over and over
>>740949183> Elden Ring> one mechanicThe older I get, the more I realize lobotomies shouldn't have been made illegal.
>>740949854That's the good thing, there IS a story, and it's there if you want to invest your time into it, but if you just want straight "ooga bonga R1 R1 roll" you can, and there's no bullshit handholding with that. That's the success of this company
he won
I dare fromsoft to make a new king's field game WITHOUT adding in first person i-frame dodging
>>740947273So they're going to keep making the same formulaic dogshit they've been making. Wow, big surprise.
>>740949703would you prefer entertainment? whichever word you use, the point stands
>>740947273easy on the antisemitism
>>740947273>Fuck you we will keep adding non-con invasions to out games to fuck over casuals, seetheBased Miyazaki
>>740949943>They are implying the second asset flip in a rowkek
>>740950239>Dark Souls introduced i-frame rolling.>Bloodborne introduced blood vials instead of estus.>Sekiro introduced parrying>Elden Ring introduced a repleneshing estus mechanic and ashes NPC helpersObjectively false. Every game has been an iteration on the last, adding new things while keeping the base systems of what worked.
>>740947273why are investors so fucking retarded?they always push for the stupidest shit, they think if one successful game has crafting, multiplayer, live service, open world, whatever, then every game needs to have all that slop
>>740950330Where are these negroid? Is DS1 the last game from this hack you played?
>>740950384>Adding a flask is an iterationYou should really start thinking about hanging yourself
>>740947464Obligatory.
>>740949678I see nothing has changed then
can’t wait for elden ring 2 so then I can start waiting for convergence devs to release a mod that makes the game enjoyable
>>740950387because most investors know nothing about what they're investing in, and furthermore, they don't carejust make the line go up
>>740950486Dynamically replenishing estus is objectively a new iteration on top of the old static "replenish at bonfire only" system. You could tell Miyazaki was even thinking about this with the estus soup in DS3.Please stop letting your emotions control you. Use your brain.
>>740950531I thought rich people are supposed to be smart
>>740950384>Sekiro introduced parryingYou are a true Dark Souls fan.
>>740948463ER2 is definitely happening, they are trying to fight back on the fortnite crossover(inevitable)
>>740950571>I thought rich people are supposed to be smart>USAAHAHAHAH
>>740947273>WE MAKE WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE>PLS MR HACK PORT BLOODBORNE INTO PC>NAH ID MAKE MULTIPLAYER SLOPHe's a hack and the only souls game worth playing is sekiro, the rest is trash.
>>740950580>StrawmanYou know exactly what I meant by that line. Is it that wrong of me to presume that the people here have higher than 70 IQ?
>>740950005Is that why there's been a big string of CEOs dumpstering companies by squeezing them to make numbers look good, then leaving with a huge golden parachute?
>>740950384>Sekiro introduced parryingI genuinely don't know what you mean by this.
>>740947273>pumps out more soulsslop
>>740950713Please stop being retarded >>740950676
>>740950676>Strawmanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdYLDpBc-yI
So they WANT to make multiplayer extraction slop for retards?
>>740950384>>Dark Souls introduced i-frame rolling.>>Sekiro introduced parryingRetarded nigger
>>740950571common misconception you and I look at a rich person, and because of our frame of reference, we relate to their outcome of "being rich" and apply the amount of work, talent, and luck we would need to get to the same pointbut we have no idea how they came by their wealth
>>740950770Explain your work.
>>740947273>safer sequelGet fuck, Sweet Babies
>>740947464Fuck yeah dude I love when a boss is clearly playing a more fun video game than I am while I wait my turn.
>>740949735>mfw my friend bought the buckets
>>740950564>It doesn't even know how it worksYou should really start thinking about hanging yourself
>>740947273They say this but will just drop elden ring 2
>>740950384You really are not human are you?
>>740950770You have to tell us when did you transition or we can't take you seriously
>>740950813>>740950841>>740950941>>740951004I appreciate the (you)s gents. Continue being the lovable ESL brownie retards that you are.
>>740947719Then why did it mindrape you? It doesn't add up.
>>740948042Actually believing From's most successful titles aren't all assets re-uses is fucking wild.
>>740947273like elden ring?
>>740951108>Ran out of retarded meaningless dogshit to saySo you are finally hanging yourself, nice
>>740950695pretty muchthey're also usually not held accountable for their mistakes in situations like thatyou bring in a CEO like that when your company is starting to struggle, so you farm out for a "ringer", regardless of where they found success, in the misguided belief that person will have the same success they did at their last companyif they pull it off, they're a heroif the company still tanks, whether in good faith or because you milked it to death to set yourself up for another big payday, then "it was just too far gone already. nothing CEO could do"
>>740951139Are you an ESL? I've never seen a more confusing and ill fitting counter argument in my life. Literally what the fuck are you talking about?
>FUCK investors, we are free spirits, we make what we want and take risks>*makes Demon's Souls for the 14th time*
>>740950564Refilling Estus "on the fly" by killing enemies was already in 3.
>>740948042Damn it's almost like all games there except for Sekiro are the exact same game which each successive one being worse than the previous one, with only DS2 breaking the chain because it's the worst piece of shit they have made
>>740951108Have they banned you from /pol/?
>>740948047They made this so yeah they can.But also fuck off I'm tired of everything in the industry being fortnite-themed for kids go fuck yourself, you disgusting manbaby bitchpussy.
>>740948047>>740951325Gook moot removed my image so I'll try again
>>740948085Easy money, they have a small brain.
>>740948104FFX has not a bit of variety.
can't wait for more ACcan't wait for fromsoft to revive Frame Gride to have fantasy AC with melee emphasis can't wait for fromsoft to revive either King's Field or Shadow Tower to have a dungeon crawler with modern combat
>>740948085see>>740949091
>>740951490How do you feel about Dark Souls 5 tho?
>>740947273>translation: we no longer have the team to make bloodborne 2 sekiro 2 eldenring 2 dark souls 4 demon souls 2 and can only make multiplayer asset flips now
>>740951586unless they do something interesting gameplay wise i'm not interested
>>740948047Ironically, the moment this>>740947273 fag took the wheel was when they mostly stopped doing games in different genres and settings and the ones they did got lukewarm receptions or are considered some of the worst of all time in SB Heavy Armor's case.
>>740947293>KadokawaMaybe if these fucking retards didn't kill their golden goose they wouldn't have to resort to pressuring others to line their pockets.It always feels like the people in charge of companies like this should never be in charge in the first place.
>>740947273Why haven't they announced the new game yet?
>>740951817Getting promoted above your competency is common. You do good at your previous job so here's a more important one oops you suck at the new one.Especially Japan loves seniority over everything else so if someone stays at a company for 30 years they eventually flop into some management or executive position
>>740951490>can't wait forGonna be waiting for a while champ
>>740950669to be as charitable as possible, I think the creative curiosity for Duskborn and Nightreign were focused on improving the design of their multiplayer functionality
>>740947464>>740950496After seeing people play Silksong without ever using tools or silk skills I realize you're legitimately just terrible at videogames.
>>740950669>>740951601Both Nightreign and Duskbloods are done by separate internal teams and not the main one that did Elden Ring headed by Miyazaki. He has nothing to do with either of those 2 games.
>>740951204Man, I wonder how many out there still promote their CEOs from within. Given the ring around the rosy the current major CEOs keep doing I doubt there's many.
>>740947273Didn't they make like two spinoffs recently? That's the safest possible after a remaster.
>>740951724Tough shit, you are getting Dark Souls 5
>>740950571Smart people are usually smart in one direction. Like in tech or in mechanics or in logistics etc. Naturally, people who are smart with money are not very smart with things that produce that money, they just know the general scheme of how making money works and apply it to everything. And it usually works, in that it does make money, at a cost of diminishing quality of the service they offer, but it's not really their problem. They have a function and they fulfill it.
>>740952075Trashbloods is made by himNot like it matters anyways
>>740952075He has everything to do with Duskbloods, it's been his main project since ER wrapped up and he's been talking about wanting to do something Tarkov-inspired for longer. Only Nightreign was totally hands off, it was Ishizaki's project to let him get experience directing a game.
>>740947273FUCKING BASED!!!!!
>>740952154No? Their latest game was Elden Ring Nightreign, which is a continuous multiplayer roguelike, something they haven't done before and Miyazaki wanted to let new blood on the team cut their teeth through this game. It was experimental, and people generally liked it. Before that they published the DLC expansion to Elden Ring, then Armored Core 6 (First one in a decade, doesn't play like the others), then Elden Ring itself.
>>740952091they usually do if the company is doing well and the current CEO is retiringthen the leaving one usually has an heir apparent that assumes the role without much fuss
>>740952339>>740952397Oh you're right, my apologies. I stand corrected. I was under the impression he wasn't involved with that one. I'll admit I've barely kept up with that one since finding out it's Switch 2 exclusive.
>>740952000>After seeing people play Silksong without ever using tools or silk skillsI've seen a lot of people use tools but yeah silk skills generally get forgotten about. It's a shame because they're really fucking strong, even the base silk spear is a great ranged option.
>>740949390This
>>740952000Tools and silk skills are generally not very useful, the former since they're very limited and if you're retrying boss fights will potentially have you run out so I just ignored them for bosses and silk skills suck in Silksong compared to Hollow Knight where they were your best source of damage so I end up just rather saving them silk for healing. The actual shitter filter that people need to use more is the claw line. That shit is insanely busted.
I want fromsoft to make switch exclusives so cult-tards are locked on one device
>>740952000What the fuck would you know faggot you never played a videogame in your life
>>740952925I do too because I own one and a powerful PC so I win either way
>>740948047Miyazaki made a girls’ boarding school simulator for VR but no one bought it so he had to go back to grimdark fantasy slop.
>>740947672>they keep making the same game>why do they not make the same game
SHITEREIGN 2
>Demon's Souls>Dark Souls>Dark Souls>Dark Souls>Bloodsouls>Elden Soulsstunningbravecreative and groundbreakingalways re-inventing themselves, with new gameplay, etc
>>740948042>Bloodborne>>best game on both the PS4 and 5Not that hard when its the only game on the platform
>>740953585better than all the western slop in this decade
>>740952457>havent done beforepffffffffff
>>740949390It was made against the law because it was antisemetic, goy
>>740948047Sekiro, but it is also lifeless because every moving thing is hostile.
Fromdrones and Nintendies have a lot in common, apparently.
>>740950421Elden ring. Invasions there are especially non-con because they target coop casual specifically and they had to come up with an entire mod to hide from us.
>>740948042>Elden Ring>absolute kinoGenuinely how? You say Dark Souls 3 is a mediocre sequel but Elden Ring does absolutely nothing that Dark Souls 3 didn't already do but better.
If you have to fight off shareholders, that means it's already over for you. They're not gonna give up, they're gonna keep wearing Miyazaki down until he either caves or leaves. It's a losing battle. The sharks aren't gonna give up just because you fought them off once. Once they've found you, it never stops.
>>740947273I don't get "investors">company is doing thing and everything is working well and nicely>invest in company>company is still doing well but now you want to change things up
>>740947273While I'm glad they're making the games they want to make, I can't say I'm a fan of the new online focus. I play these games primarily by myself, so basically forcing me to play online is just going to make me not play the games.
>>740947273All this grandstanding but the next big game is 100% going to be elden ring 2 in everything but the name.
>>740954509PVP has been getting more and more of a focus in every game they make since Dark Souls 1. The signs were already there.
>>740947273So where's the followup to Armored Core 6?
>>740954473>"You're doing good, but let me (person with zero knowledge of video games, who also doesn't play video games) tell you how to do even better!"Is how it goes, because shareholders are always trying to make more money, good enough is never enough.
>>740948938>SOTE is probably the worst DLC Fromsoft has ever madeYou guys are such fake posers
>>740952501Wonder what caused the current shuffling then
>>740953585Why make something too different when the formula works?
>>740952000most people are very bad at games, and even people who are good at games dont typically want to play games with a high learning curve
>>740954629And I have easily ignored it up to this point. Same goes with Co-Op. Hope they make more single-player friendly games again, otherwise I guess I'm just getting pushed out their playerbase.
>>740954682>way worse exploration and open world that's every issue with Elden Ring but worse>enemy design way less fun>some of the worst bosses in the entire game with only 3 exceptions being Rellana, Messmer and Bayle with the rest ranging from ok to just straight up awful>fuck up the world building cause they want to have Radahn be the final boss>make it one of the worst fights anywaySOTE is a downgrade in basically every single way from Elden Ring. It improves on nothing and makes every flaw Elden Ring had worse.
>>740954473They don't give a fuck about the health of the company or being sustainable. They see growth potential, they buy in, pump the stock up, sell high, and then move onto the next thing while somebody else has to clean up the big stinky shit they leftYes, these people should be hanging from lamp posts
>>740947273>>740947293Cool story, bro. Why doesn't he push back against the woke DEI propaganda? Why do I have to pick body type A or B? Why do I have to pick voice 1, 2, 3, or 4? He's just yapping trash and coping
>>740954931True, but neither of the Silksong nor Elden Ring have high learning curves, ER especially.
>>740947273>Company that's been copypasting the game for for 17 years rejects safe sequelslmao, okay marketing department, you sure tricked the gamers with this one.
>>740954964>>way worse exploration and open world that's every issue with Elden Ring but worseIt was better, no one fucking likes Liurnia of the Lakes' big empty field and the same regurgigated churches/estus seeds/giant trees with asylum demons/etc.>>enemy design way less funIt was about the same>>some of the worst bosses in the entire game with only 3 exceptions being Rellana, Messmer and Bayle with the rest ranging from ok to just straight up awfulEverything I need to know right there>>fuck up the world building cause they want to have Radahn be the final bossOh wow, just like the Ringed City DLC>>make it one of the worst fights anywayLMAOYou're a fucking retard, the worst DLC ever made by far was Ashes of Ariandel and every single person who plays these games know it
>>740947273any mod to replace the body type selection during character creation to gender selection in elden ring
>>740947273its Jewish investor play , investors want them stuck to sequels because they already own those IPs and will profit from From being stuck milling them, Fromsoft own Elden Ring IP since they got Bandai to transfer full rights to them (probably bought their "half") , this opens a path for From to be fully independant and own and self fund/publish all their games if they keep making new IPs because if they, like with Elden Ring , start owning all of their IPs , they can just go independant with backlog of games they can make without needing to reinwent the wheel, while if they stick to sekiro , dark souls , demon souls , bloodborne ,armored core , they arent building a backlog of self owned IPs that will make it easy to divorce from any publisher
>>740954914the issue is acting like that's stunning and brave
>>740948047its not edgy grimdark enough, go back to cod and fartnite
ALL their games are the same rollslop lmao nice creativity there
>>740954334There's plenty of fat in Kadokawa before it hits Myiazaki with an ultimatum. It would be insane to force or have him outed right now. Investors are mostly greedy as fuck, but they aren't mostly dumb.
>>740955212Literally every argument is just "nuh uh" so I'm not even going to bother responding to that beyond accepting that you've conceded and you're just an NPC who doesn't know how to think for himself and just parrots other people's opinions which is why you can't actually articulate your disagreements.>the worst DLC ever made by far was Ashes of Ariandel Ashes of Ariandel is a close 2nd worst but it's biggest crime is being inoffensive and basically a filler DLC but doesn't have anything egregiously wrong with it it's massively saved by how good the Ringed City is which actually capped off the game with a bang(you trying to compare Radahn with Gael is a laughably terrible counter argument cause the latter is plenty of people's favourite boss in the entire game and made perfect sense narrative but literally nobody says nu-Radahn is their favourite, in fact I've yet to see one person ever even claim he's better than his base game counterpart) unlike SOTE which ends Elden Ring with a whimper so no SOTE is worse than AoA and the worst DLC. Also you unironically using the "w-well this one's worse" is basically an implicit concession that you agree that SOTE is only in contention for last place and not a good DLC but you're just a pedantic dick head fanboy who wants to argue for the sake of it cause it hurts you fragile ass feelings when popular thing s insulted.
>>740947464I think their games are shit but it is Fromsoft's vision and I'm glad they're putting that over whatever "security" beancounters demand from them.
>>740955885Just the fact that executives want more safe/popular stuff it's a hell of a good sign for Miyazak and co because it obviously means that they have a lot of creative pull and are doing what they want. We have too much executive pressure on this industry.
>>740955738>Investors are mostly greedy as fuck, but they aren't mostly dumb.Most of them actually are that fucking dumb though, the reason why they can get away with it is because the system is basically set up so it's impossible for them to truly fail. If something doesn't work out in their favor they get a golden parachute and its no biggie, it's everyone else that has to clean up their mess.
>>740949675John Carmack already told us story to a video game is the same as story inside of a porn video. It is expected to be there but it is not important at all. Go watch your movie games on youtube fagit.
Investors will get the last laugh because this is clown world. I told my jewish neighbor to use his leverage to keep the parrying and rollslop to a minimum. He said to shut up and watch them insert more trans celebrities and rappers.
ER exposed a lot of "hardcore" gamers
>>740951986>focused on improving the design of their multiplayer functionality>no multiplatform servers
>>740955738>Investors are mostly greedy as fuck, but they aren't mostly dumb.Dude, you're not seriously saying this right now when the Space X grift is still piping hot, investors are as dumb as your average boomer spending their monthly retirements on slot machines in Vegas
>>740947668retard
The amount of butthurt FromSoft causes by just quietly and steadily developing good games is insane, lmao
>>740948047 ferit nose c:
>>740956428Fair enough, but you are talking about c-suite executives, I was mentioning investors, like people in the board of directors. They care about losing money as much as they care about making it.
>>740954130>non-con>literal conAre you completely fucking stupid?
>>740957994Big time investors are all privvy to insider infomation that tells them when its time to sell their stocks too, when stuff goes to shit because of their demands that just means its time to cash out
>>740956915>the Space X grift is still piping hot?Space X has a deliverable product though. Starlink is hugely successful.
Elden Ring selling for 1 billion dollar out of a 100M production is not enough.
>>740947464>game asks you to push a button a lot:D>game asks you to push a different button a lotI:<
Fromsoft have been making unsafe games?
>MUH CREATIVITY cries the man who made:>Demon's Souls>Dark Souls (Demon's Souls 2)>Dark Souls 3>Victorian Dark Souls>Open World Dark SoulsOkay buddy.
>>740947273they added body types I trust a single word coming out of that dirty mouth
>>740958968It's funny how the (((investors))) actually don't care about unsafe games.
>>740948047None of them are edgy at all there's not even any gore
>>740957698Envy is one of the cardinal sins for a reason.
>>740949863every time michigan starts talking my ears perk up>SHUT YOUR STINKHOLE AND START SHOOTING
>>740947273Actually fucking based. Don't let these jewish cocksuckers walk all over you. Tell them to eat shit.
>>740959027Don't forget coop dark souls and extraction dark souls
MIYAZAKI AC6 DLC AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
>>740947464This is why Duskbloods is exciting, but people are moaning about that anyway
>valuable gamesDoko?
If they had any balls, they'd do a game in the Eternal Ring setting (That they made) with their modern gameplay.
>>740947851No one who plays fromschlop has above 85 IQ
>>740959685>DLCkys
>>740947273literally the only person left saving gaming.
>>740947273the world doesn't deserves him.
>>740959685This, but as a full game.
>>740947273OUR FUARKING HERO
>>740947273>"Valuable games" >Rollslop game iteration #384528472877Imagine being a fromcuckboy
>>740960054>>740960089>>740960306>body type A and B
>>740948085have you considered the charts where moba vidya go up big green arrow?
Its funny how /v/ will spin this into a negative. The same board that goes on and on and on about how corporations, jews, shareholders, elites and failed auteurs are monopolizing or homogenizing gaming think this guy should bend the knee. I'm starting to wonder if its just a complete, terminally online anti-Frosmfotware crusade.
>>740959027>sekiro>the vr game you won't try>amored coreAt least be honest tranny.
>>740960557Here's your valuable, spic
>>740959846
>>740949262/v/ worships autistic mediocre Japanese men the same way reddit worships black criminals
>>740960604>gundambing bing wahoo
>>740960668>knightcling clang rollan
>>740947273And then the investors vote you out/sue you because you didn't bend the knee. That's what you get for selling your soul to them.
I just can't understand investorsYou want money ? Cool, me too so just let me work in peace if my company is already making billions
>>740960732Who are you quoting?
>>740950098are you seriously under the impression that the anon who made that picture played any of those games rather than searching for "old based role rpg games" ?
>>740960557>Its funny how /v/ will spin this into a negative.No one is doing that. People are just pointing how illogical his statement is when has done nothing but put out Soulslike for 15 years, i.e safe sequels
>>740960771who were you quoting?
>>740953349I want more Bloodborne music
>>740947893Ok you make infinite moneyBut you should make infinite money+1You see fortnite ? Make that
>>740960557>homogenizing gamingYeah, fromschlop is very varied and not at all homogenized.
if you don't like from games.. don't play them?idgi having strong opinions about things you don't like seems very autistic to me
>>740948047I wouldn't call armored core 6 grim dark
>>740959963I have 89 though
>>740960856If you don't like opposing opinions.. don't read them?idgi ngl troon you seem kinda dum fr fr
>>740947668>f
>>740949675Peak
>>740959142kek
>>740955063for a long time, japs thoughts that's what th entire west wanted and saw it as a nothing burger wordthen they realized, it was just investors, not customers, better example is the Palworld guys on the character creator"Wait, dont westerners like to do ugly characters?"
I will buy the next dark fantasy action RPG by From Software, directed by Hidetaka MiyazakiI will spend the first playthrough seething about unfair design until I learn to deal with itI will spend subsequent playthroughs exploring different builds and engaging with enemies and bosses in many waysI will use a randomizer to further enhance replayability and explore gameplay that would not be possible or encouraged in the unmodded gameI will read and post various interpretations of the extremely obtuse story and lore while deriding youtubers and their attempts of twisting From's vibes based worldbuilding into a unified narrativeI will post cute fanart of the female characters and their bare feetI will reply to filtered shitters with "filtered", "git gud" and "Shazam lost"
>>740950054Crazy sad to see bait posters this desperate. Take this (you) for your poor family
>>740947464ThisJust time your rolls chuddie
>>740960856not being able to understand or notice market trends and how they function and how it impacts the available entertainment media at any given time is what is autistic you fuckin sperg.
>>740949854speaks more to you then the game desu
>>740961051What turn-based game is this?
>>740961052>notice market trendsbut elden ring and its dlc shattered recordsi really don't understand the pow of a hater
>>740947464Lmao, spbp
>>740947273>WE MAKE WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE>Even if that includes live service slop like Nightreign and Duskblood.I rather be in another DS2/DS3 Bandai ordered trilogy timeline again.
>>740960986i kneel zanzibart-sama..
>>740961051I still don't see how this proves your point. The player is just shit at the game
fromsoft have done literally nothing but safe sequels to dark souls for the last 15 years...its actually more embarrassing that them making open world shit and extraction slop was done on purpose with no outside pressure to chase shitty trend genres
they should do another survival horror game
What's the difference between selling out and just being naturally passionate about things that end up being profitable?
Elden Ring release was the last time /v/ was good and that was 4 years ago.
>>740961139Nta but that's the point, elden ring's success will influence other entertainment to be more similar to it.
The funniest thing about the discord raided, contrarian whinging on places like /v/ about too much same-game syndrome going on with FROM is that it does not do anything. Normalfag had their Action RPG cherry popped with Elden Ring and they love it. They hold it as high as people did the LOTR trilogy for high fantasy right after it concluded. So even IF FROM for some reason did something retarded and uninspired like Elden Ring 2 followed by Dark Souls 4, the profits would be massive.
>>740960973you're braindead
>>740958801Starlink is hugely successful>Nigga no one’s using that shit, it sells itself on a gimmick
>>740947464It is funny how the key to being good at Elden Ring is just knowing when to roll towards the boss or away from him.
>>740949675The fanboys can't refute that image. Sekiro is the only one that tried to mix up that premise.
>>740947273sorry fromdrones.I don't even like souls games but I do feel for you. The devs might hold the line but eventually they will fall under investors pressure.
>based chinese company comes in and demands Dark Souls 4>sissy FromSoft says you WILL get Duskbloods 2 on Switch 3 many cases
>>740949675>>740962001why would I refute kino
>>740947273As if not/barely iterating on the gameplay for 15+ years isn't safe. Even Armored Core got soulsofied to a large degree. Sekiro was the only one you could argue was a risk if you wanna be really charitable.
>>740947464then. dont. play. those. games. simpleasfucking queer
>>740947464>hitting R1PSbro...
>>740947273But DeS2, Bloodborne 2, or Sekiro 2 would all be interesting games. I guess if he doesn't have any new ideas about those worlds he doesn't want to do fart something out.
>>740962496Sekiro was just a Tenchu game that turned into souls-lite
>>740962879and?
>>740963152So it really wasn't a risk.
>>740951817remember that kadokawa is just now, literally just now in 2026, feeling that they have been putting out too many isekai
They've made the same fucking game AT LEAST six timesIt's been Demon's Souls again and again and again and no one seems to believe me when I say this
>>740947273>literally rehashed demon's souls for like 5+ times>literally made a fucking battleroyale/extraction souls>never made more moldbreaking games like Bloodborne or SekiroI wonder, why do I not believe him?
>>740964117Well you sound like a meth addict, no one's going to believe anything you say when you crash out over something everyone knows and isn't even important
>>740953585As derivative as FromSoft's offerings are, I can in fact say they are games and decent games at that. That's more than any westoid dev has done in a fucking decade and that's hilariously sad. They're not even trying and they make better games than any western dev has in years.It's also why I don't get the hatred for Japs: they make games that are decent for the most part. Not movie games, not soon to be dead multiplayerslop games but actual curated experiences that can be called games
>>740964117Go play final fantasy if you want schizophrenic developers
>>740962496AC is still not a soulslike but Sekiro is.
>>740947464>>740947273kek this, thats all they make, dodge roll, r1 the game
>>740964589The only japs that make decent games are Capcom and Fromsoft. Every other is movie shit like the Yakuza series, shitty, overpriced JRPGslop like the Tales of and Trails series, or just shitty, overpriced AA games like whatever Xseed/Marvelous put out.
>>740964383>rehased demons souls 5+ times>moldbreaking games like Bloodborne or SekiroCan't be both buddy. DeS broke the mold, Bloodborne and Sekiro switched up the formula while the DS series was updating it.And it's the norm for sequels to just iterate on the previous title. The difference with Souls is that Fromsoft put out 6 games in a 10-year period, so you noticed it. Ironically they're being criticized for making video games as fast as a studios used to in the 90s, even though the only reason they made them all so fast one after another is because every single game was successful. Elden Ring is the game everyone is performatively sick of, and it sold the most out of all of them.
>>740960581That still makes most of his works Dark Souls rehashes. I know numbers can be hard for you people.
>>740951213>It's so safe>if it's so safe, why did it rape your mind?He's not brown and while you might not be, you're spiritually brown, aka retarded. Fucking retard.
>>740947273Why can't more developers tell investor kikes to fuck off? Those niggers don't even play games and should have absolutely no input in creative director decisions just to attract as many npc niggercattle disposable income as possible.
>>740965180>even though the only reason they made them all so fast one after another is because every single game was successful.Not even close. Capcom was shitting out games in the 90s and most were flops, because they kept cannibalizing each other.
>>740950012In what world is Duskbloods a safer bet for them vs just another Elden Ring / Dark Souls / Sekiro ????????????
>>740947273Troons will still find a way to complain about the only good AAA company.Man I love From Software so much.>>740947464Llike clockwork.You deserve to play woke slop 24/7.
>>740947273what do "investors" mean by safer? more degenerate and gay? more african?
>>740965646Troons are the biggest Fromsoft fans though? Didn't one of the most popular souls youtuber just come out as a tranny this year?
>>740965361Nah you're definitely an ESL
>makes literal Demons Souls asset flips for 15+ years now>only game that was different were Sekiro and Armored core>both have no sequels>while they continue to shit out safest souls rollsloppa but [here insert gimmicky shit like Neightrein]Does that nigga have negative self awareness?
>>740965950Yes, let's completely disregard discord troons raids going on for almost a decade now.
>>740947273omg sir, so based! cant wait to use this article in my rightoid grifter reactionary propaganda
>>740966125Discord raid being troons is nothing but your own headcanon. Meanwhile troons loving Fromsoft games is the reality.
>>740947273>safer sequels>when everything miyazaki makes sells gangbusters and becomes a cultural hitare investors actually genuinely unironically fucking retarded?
>>740964989the nip indie scene needs to come to rise again, any good indie game comes from europe or america despite western AAA releases being utter dogshit
>>740947273Fromsoft is just as creatively bankrupt as the average AAA developer.
>>740966570>are investors actually genuinely unironically fucking retarded?Yes, yes they are.These are people who blindly trust statistics, trends, analysts and want an infinitely growing audience.If they had their way, the whole industry would be making gacha games.
>>740966570>yeah line went up but it didn't quite go up enoughIt's just jews being jews
They've released the same game 6 fucking times,It cant get safer
>>740947273>HIDETAKA MIYAZAKI: "FUCK INVESTORS, WE MAKE WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE"that's not what he said, he said that he's fine with the current state of things and he'd rather keep it that way and he said it in the most herbivore and non-confrontational way possible. if investors want to shove a hand up his ass and tell him how he should run the company then he can do nothing about it (unless he leaves and starts his own studio like Kojimbo did).
>>740947273Miyazaki said a core concept of his games were that some other company, most likely the publisher, would shoulder part of the cost, so no one game would ever kill the company. That’s why they’ve worked with such diverse companies and have console exclusives.
>>740966705it's true, but at least they retained their artistic talent
>>740966134>reactionarywhat fucking year is this?
>>740947273but the only good game series fromsoft has made was dark souls.
>>740967006Demons Souls on PS3 was unpolished but great
>>740966834That was the most retarded thing he ever decided, imagine if he had pocketed the full profits of Elden Ring, he would have the money to publish his games and other companies games with that amount of revenue. After Sekiro it was clear that Fromdrones would buy whatever slop his studio made and you go Vaativdiya et al. shilling them all as a business model.
>>740947273>michael zaki says something gigabasedmust be a day that ends in y
>>740960973Correct>>740961560Retard
>>740966308Cope.
All the Fromsoft hate ITT is pure jealousy and retardation.
>>740947273I can't stand the people on /v/ of all places that want Dark Souls 4, Bloodborne 2 and Sekiro 2. You are fucking soulless golems.Let them make new games.
imagine telling the guy that took a massive gamble on a passion project that spawned an entire genre that ended in a titanic success in its most recent iteration that he needs to play things safer.
>>740947273can’t they sue him for this based on ford vs dodge brothers?
>>740967450With what? Reality supports my claim, seems like you're no less delusional than troons.
>>740949183>roll x40>wait 50 minutes for an opening>hit light attack>repeat until boss diessuch a fun an innovative gameplay
>>740947464ThisI expected so much more
>>740966705You are retarded. You should be forced to play "the average AAA" game over and over, so maybe you'll start to appreciate what From has been doing.
>>740968175That time is not even enough to finish the game.
>>740966794yeah thats the irony. "we wont bend over backwards for VCs" okay, but being japanese Infinity Ward making endless call of duty style sequels over and over looks exactly the same from the outside.
>won't bend over for investors>won't bend over for industry trends>won't bend over for whining journalists>won't bend over for /v/>just makes good vidya and moves on to make more good vidya
>>740968508>>won't bend over for industry trendsOpen world and extraction shooters
>>740968508the last game they released was chasing roguelite co-op slop that nobody asked for.Interestingly this means that internal pressure can be just as strong, if not a stronger pull to following trends than it would have appeared. People seems to think that institutional free will naturally converges into something that looks like independent thought without explaining what that mechanism to bridge the two even is.
>>740968558They want to make those because they like them.
>>740947273>>740947293>nightrein and tendiebloods>valuable games
>>740968324I cleared every single dungeon I could find, killed every boss I could find, finished the game with Ranni's ending.If I missed something, tough luck. Towards the end I think I even used some online map resource that showed where there would be dungeons, because finding needles in a haystack became so much worse once you'd clear like 95% of all points of interest.I fucked up the manor questline though, I accidentally started Rykard fight and killed him before I got to investigate the secret wall, give away all the letters etc. Every NPC just bounced after he was dead and that was the end of it.
>>740966794yeah it can. they're not like nintendo
>>740955762based you raped that dumb nigger
>>740968280Every game after DS1 began to water down a lot of friction mechanics or just removed them outright. In Elden Ring, sites of grace are omnipresent, removing any form of tension. I can go on if you like.
>>740968896I think you've been playing too many kojima games
>>740947273>"we reject safer sequels">most successful game is "not dark souls 4"lollmaohbao+
>>740968084You described Elden Ring and reason why I will never understand why faggots think of that game so highly. Older rollsloppa had some grace in enemy design meanwhile ER is just eternal AoE spazzing with dogshit disjointed hitbox tracking. It seems that even FromSoft bought into redditor "git gud" memes.
>>740947273Was it Sony? I know they've been steadily buying Kadokawa stocks for a couple years now in order to increase their monopoly on anime (and obtain From in a roundabout way after burning bridges with them), but I'm not sure if even SIE would have the balls to say this shit to any game developer.
>>740948047>Can't they make a different type of setting for a changeI really liked how colorful sekiro was, it felt very alien not just because of the japanese setting but also the whole mibu village and palace with the ayy lmaos dancing on roofs
>>740965646You literally play games for normies, shut the fuck up faggot.
>>740947273>wake up>kill things>you can resurrect when dying because [plot device]>entire game is about killing big things until you run out of things to killvirtually every fucking souls game is identical to the last one, they haven't changed anything in the formula except for sekiro which got immediately bombarded by angry "fans" that didn't like they couldn't roll slop their way to victory for the 12th time in a rowmiyazoter acts like his company is this pioneer of creativity when they were even famous for rehashing armored core for 10+ years before souls sloppa, give me a break
>>740969352why are you angry
>>740947273>a company makes something that just works>investors want to destroy it just becauseWhat is going on inside their heads? Do they want kill a goose that lays golden eggs? I will ignore the quality of the games, it's not important.
>>740969451>evry gam u pres bottun so evry gam saem
>>740947464SPBP, the format got raped beyond recognition, and that raping was far safer than anything the meany shareholders would suggest as evidenced by these games getting progressively worse and progressively selling more.
>>740947273>remakes demons souls for the 10 time>combat and enemy design has not changed in almost 20 years>FUCK THE MAN! WE ONLY DO RSIKY AND INOVATIVE GAMES
>>740948463Read the first reply screencap. It's not that he doesn't want to make certain games or series, it's that he doesn't want any corporate suits coming in and telling his company how to do things. That's exactly what soured his relationship with Playstation, they endured nearly two decades of Sony's constant BS only to be shunned, then welcomed back, then shunned again by them. Fucking Activision treated them better than Sony.
>>740947273Valuable games?
>>740969451Every game after DeS is just an iteration of the last. The formula is largely the same, but with a couple of new "additions" that are ultimately worthless mechanics that players will rarely engage with.DS1 was just a more polished and ambitious version of DeS.DS2 was a downgrade from DS1 in nearly everything but combat. Dual wielding was added, but it's hardly something that elevates the system.Bloodborne only sped up the attack animations, added a quickstep, guns(Which are secretly shields regardless of what anyone tells you) the rally system which looks cool at first but ends up being useless after realizing that the combat(just like the previous games) is reactive rather than proactive. Bloodborne only removed more features than it added. The rings were gone, the magic system was downgraded and the armor became a cosmetic item instead of an upgradeable piece of equipment. The blood gems are a neat idea.DS3 is easily the most shallow sequel from soft ever released, almost no significant changes compared to the last 3, the new mechanics it adds(Weapon Arts) are completely useless.Elden Ring is basically DS3.5, it's new mechanics are mostly underutilized. Everything else is the same.Fromsoft was always a lazy developer.
>>740969482Just reminding you that the average channer is not much better than the average normie.
>>740970249ACVI is DS3.75
>>740947273They've been making the same game since Dark Souls 1.
>>740960940fecond
>>740947273
>>740966570>are investors actually genuinely unironically fucking retarded?you don't understand. line must go up EVEN FASTER
>>740955738>Investors are mostly greedy as fuck, but they aren't mostly dumb.You have no idea how fucking retarded these money guys can actually be sometimes.
>>740969451they haven't bothered with a in-world justification for why the player respawns, why the world resets, or why the player absorbs money since Demons Souls.
>>740947273This is how you make good games. And now he can finally refine the PvPvE gameplay on Switch 2.
>>740947464lmao you really made the fromtards seethe
>>740955738>>740971174Another one
>>740947464fuck me ER DLC was pure cancerthere is no way to push this retarded roll spam and further, at this point they need a gameplay redesign
>>740968175Same. I couldnt even bother with the last zones dungeons such as the snow biome, because its always the same shitty cave or dungeon with the same gargoyle enemies or other filler you've fought for 400th time. There's only one dungeon I actually loved it's the hidden one in radahn's boss arena. But yeah, I just rushed towards the legacy dungeons and deleted the game once I got the ranni's ending. DS2 looks good in comparison to this open world slop.
>>740972012So glad I didn't buy it lmao. I knew it was going to be the same shit but even worse due to more unfair boss patterns. Even the normies didn't like the dlc due to the absurdity of artificial difficulty it created.
I own stock and if they continue this approach I sue. Simple as.
>>740947464The sad part is that there's no real rebuttal to this. If the best player in the world was to make a video breaking down what they're doing to new players, it would be things like "Now here I'm going to dodge 5 times in a row to the side, then at the end of the boss' combo I'm going to dodge forward one time, putting just close enough to get in 1 light attack during his 0.5 animation recovery."And that'd be it. Because that's mostly all you're ever expected to be able to do. That's how they're designed to be now.
>>740971395Fucking hell.>Why didn't you take advantage of the earthquake disaster?These people are not human.
>>740948047i dont mind grimdark, but im tired of shitty writinghow the fuck they still dont have a decent writer on the team that can write a single coherent quest and plot that isnt full of plotholes and retarded mistakes
>>740948042Agreed with the exception of ER being kino. It's the Dark Souls 2 2 flop level in terms of originality, gameplay and overall downgrade of the worldbuilding. They tried to put Sekiro level bosses into Dark Souls 3 type of combat.
>>740972016Give them the benefit of the doubt -- it was the first "open-world" meme game in the series, coming on the back of an "enclosed-world" franchise. Each time they change their Matrix, something suffers for that iteration; only to be redressed in the subsequent games...>DnS to DS- visuals - atmosphere+ map+ combat+variety+ replay>DS1 to DS2- map design- combat+ mechanics+ weapons and armour variety+ online+ DLC>DS2 to DS3- atmosphere+ visuals+ combat+ bosses>DS3 to ER- open-world- dungeons- bosses+ visuals + combat+ weapons / armrour+ replay+ modding...
>>740969597>OH NO NO NOglad we agree
>>740947464fippy bippyfromcultists anally prolapsed
>>740972752>it was the first "open-world" meme game in the seriesYes you're right, they tried to experiment and the won the lottery in that regard. It grabbed the normies' attention and the game was a huge success from the sales point of view. Even those who has never touched a souls game bought it and gave it a shot.>coming on the back of an "enclosed-world" franchiseAnd that's the ultimate sacrifice they paid - in my eyes the open world is a huge waste of time. Im sure you've seen the pasta of the "get on the horse then waste 15 minutes going to a different location only to hop on the horse again do repeat the same process until you find something interesting" that's how it felt to me. If you removed all the filler space stretching out the map nothing would truly be lost with the exception of reused bosses, enemies posing as bosses in caves/dungeons. ER would be a magnitude better if open world didnt exist and it would follow the old principle of the condensed map design. Leave all the legacy dungeons as they are, then take big locations such as caelid/siofra river and condense them to a more acceptable size.
>>740947273Isn't their next game going to be a fucking battle royale?
>>740947464>when they're slandering your goat and they're lowkey right
>>740947293how come investors of the parent company can even dare to say shit. its privately owned.
>>740947273>make safer sequelsUnironically what do they mean by this?From already does nothing but release the same game with mild balance tweaks and a different aesthetic coat of paint every 3-5 yearsDo they actually want just elden ring 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, n?
>>740969135And?What the fuck is a friction mechanic and why does the lack thereof indicate the game is an average AAA slop?Some people complain it's too hard, some others that it's casualized. You are all retarded. As long as they make what they want to make I'm happy.There's nothing average about these games.
>>740969352I play good games that I like.You are mentally ill.
>>740972752>>DS2 to DS3>- atmosphereOh fuck off. Twin Princes, Oceiros, Friede and Ariandel, Midir, Flianore, Gael. The atmosphere is amazing.
>>740971174>>740971395Absolutely, they can be, and I'm sure that the total amount of fucking ghouls thinking stuff like that is larger than we'd like to think, but I still believe that at the end of the day the majority actually isn't that sociopathic. It's like the discussion about secret societies of evil people actively going out to harm X or Y. It's not like that, sure there are a few, but the majority just doesn't care, and that where bad outcomes can come out from.
>>740947293>FromSoftware is known to push boundaries whenever possibleMust be pretty impossible then lol
>>740947464i can spam night comet just fine
>>740975881>literally every single game copies themThe delusion of people with From Derangement Syndrome is colossal.
I won't be buying their next game but might get the soundtrack or artbook.
>>740947464Bro your Havel set ? Your fingerprint shield ? Your blasphemous blade ?
>>740947273Yes, because when I think of developers that don't just make safe sequels, From Software is the first to come to mind. How's Demon's Souls 10 by the way?
>>740976435You mean every single game of theirs copies their own.
>>740969202yeah i was really let down by the difficulty of ER bosses vs how easy normal enemies werei beat even ER DLC no problem since i played all fromslop games and multiple clones, but i was so burned out by the end, the endless combos were breaking me mentally, not skill wiseits like a game designed to destroy any good will i had to FROMits clear that despite popularity and more polished controls the gameplay itself took a nosediveplatforming is as shit as ever though, now we get even more now that controls are better
>>740975147By changing the focus of the series from being an immersive dungeon crawler to a mediocre action game solely focused on bosses. How else do you think Elden Ring sold 30 million copies?
>>740976831They made Nine Sols? Interesting.
>>740948126>>740948441>>740948576I know you retards think that you are smart and everybody else is stupid, but if that were the case you wouldn't fail to understand such simple things, no it has to be that they are just idiots. Maybe the people who have all the money are actually the smart ones.
>>740977108>How else do you think Elden Ring sold 30 million copies?It was bound to happen eventually, they had been making bangers back to back for over a decade. The open world helped, obviously. More people will also pick up a first game rather than a sequel of a game they haven't played, Dark Souls 4 would have had a lower sales pool.I don't like open worlds. But ER is still miles better than anything else on the market.
