Soul vs Soulless
>>740964075Remake Kaine is cuter and better, just like the rest of Replicant.
>>740964075yes but not in that order
>kaine has a penis>2b can have a penis due to androids having modular genitals>zero has a stamenWhat did Taro mean by this?
>>740964075>start out making pictures like this to shit on the remake>get the game>do a 180 because it's actually a good remake(rare)the characters kinda look better in stills and some of the environment set pieces look better in the original, but the remake blows it away in motion due to graphics and animation
Are these types of threads made by bots? The remaster/remake has been out for more than 5 years now
>>740964430>FUTA
I will say emil is just outright worse in the remake though since he doesn't have animations
>>740964869chocobo looking mf
It feels to me like the remake looks better but the characters seem like they don't emote as well with the facial expressions.
>>740964430he likes rape, that's why Nier gets raped to pay for Yonah's medicine. he'd probably write her to be raped too if he wrote more replicant lore
>>740964953They emote much better but look worse in still shots(sometimes, or even most of the time maybe). The animations are way better in the remake.
>>740964937qwark
>>740964075Remake is more soulful because of the improved facial animations that are more expressive and kino
>>740964430>kaine has a penisnever confirmed, it is only implied by the bullies
>>740964827Remake seethe threads are trendy on /v/ right now (P4R, OoT, etc.), so might as well dig up old remake discourse too for free (You)s
>>740965154It's outright confirmed, they even modelled the bulge on the 3D model.
>>740964075>cishet gemerald>troony toon coal
>>740965217where is it confirmed? the 2023 woke book doesnt count btw, its full of made up shit to fit a modern audience. the bulge was just a phat pussy.
>>740964075I'm fine with the visuals. The actual problem with the remake was the music, but there's a mod for that.
>740965154>740965302(You)
>>740965302they literally interviewed yoko taro and he said it
>>740965302in the dialogue of the game
>>740965342remake music is overall better
>>740965302Kaine has a dickNier had his bussy poundedjust accept it
>>740965457no fucking way. i'll allow the graphics, but fuck off with this bullshit. the music is a complete downgrade.
>>740965342There's maybe one or two tracks that legitimately don't sound as good sperg-kun
>>740965549no way fag I'm correct
>>740965154Already confirmedhttps://news.sankakucomplex.com/2009/09/16/square-enixs-nier-replicant-gets-hot-futanari-action/
>>740965601no, go fuck yourself, you're wrong. these takes are insane
>>740965660I have a folder with all of the songs organized to play back to back and I listen to it several times a yearI'm so right it's not even funny
seems like a mixed bag in terms of visuals, better than your average remake but that's not exactly a high bar is it
>>740965382I don't care what interviews say, death of the author applies here. I judge a work based on the text of the game itself, not on retrospective, modernized takes from the creator after the fact. External commentary isn't the final word on what is actually on the screen.>>740965390Yes, the one >>740965530 shared, the translation muddies the original Japanese nuance. The village children didn't actually know anything, they weaponized a rumor to turn a little girl into a punching bag, showing how bullying thrives on a lie and you don't need a solid 'reason'. When Dino actually sees her, his reaction is a genuine step-back and shock, which makes no sense if he already expected a penis. The core thematic point is that a lie becomes "truth" if enough bitter people repeat it, not that the rumor was physically accurate.>>740965615no. Nier fucks Kaine right in the pussy and cums inside.
>>740965601I'm surprised that you find the new version of The Wretched Automatons way better because it's the one that I distinctly remember thinking was a bit weaker than the original, I also prefer the new version of SotA / Devola a little more than the original one
As someone who hates remakes, Replicants is one of the least egregious ones. It's actually a safe pick over the og if you have to
>>740966124>>740965302>>740965154This is some EXTREME fag denial lmaoDude's about to break down crying probably about jacking it to a futa
>>740965154>>740965302>>740966124Motherfucker the advertisement for the remaster/remake quite LITERALLY spelled it out directly that shes a hermaphrodite You just outright didnt play the game or payed no attention to the dialouge if you somehow dont know that Kaine is a canon futa
Hold on he wasn't actually joshing around when he called the new edition of Grimoire Nier a woke book? Wew
>>740966312That one was tough but it works better in gameplay because there's just more going on and that area is droning and goes on and on and on. I recommend listening to them both on repeat for a long time(I've unironically done this lol).
>>740966482So what if Yoko Taro calls Kaine a "futanari"What does he know!
>>740965154>>740965302>>740966124>t.
Come to think of it, Kaine is the only canon futa in non-hentai games
>>740966124>Nier fucks Kaine right in the pussy and cums inside.He does but she also leaks pre with her ween in the process
>>740967067Poison
>>740964075Remember when people actually got pissed that Kaine looks like a woman now instead of a man with lipstick on?
But the original Nier is SUPPOSED to be bad
Sex with yonah
>>740965601I prefer new Blubird, but Temple of... is fucking ruined.
>>740967313post time-skip, r-right?
>>740967360meant for>>740967280As far as the music, idk sorry I'd have to listen to compare
>>740967218to this day. they're still trying to say she's a boy. Its so retarded.
>>740967146Is a tranny. Not to mention that she became one due to localization issues and is a woman Japanese games
>>740967426Ok. OG Templehttps://youtu.be/C1ztL9-Ld4s?is=4r81NktQGtFJe8njRemake Templehttps://youtu.be/liM5IeWyIcQ?is=xKrmpc5S0wIQgRGnOG Blubirdhttps://youtu.be/Q9jsY3VHIn0?is=hBcJZAHAteCC2FDtRemake Blubirdhttps://youtu.be/bMmGZpFnbCk?is=siF5p4D6J_stpR7b
>>740967650Kaine is simply just a woman with a penis :^)
Kaine is apparently a "woman japanese games" I guess.I want to play Kaine.
>>740967716Listening to those (both are good)I agree I like OG Temple moreWith blu-bird I don't really have a preference either way
>>740967716remake sounds like fucking ass next to the original holy shit, it's worse than i remembered.you need to be deaf to prefer this. it's worse from an instrumentation, arrangement and mixing perspective.
>>740967731Kaine is not a human being. End of line
>>740967860>Kaine is apparently a "woman japanese games" I guess.what?
>>740968037Nobody is in Nier technically.
>>740964075True but the kikeslave trannies on /v/ have no souls
>>740966787Seethe furfags
>>740966518When a story leans heavily on nuance and ambiguity people end up missing the point completely. Instead of sitting with the uncertainty they just latch onto the loudest or most "definitive" interpretation as hard fact. Selling Kainé is both controversial, popular and Westeners love to characters that they can put in their little mental boxes in, but in Japanese it's much smarter than that.In the original, the bullying scenes and village gossip revolve around malicious rumors and vague, cruel language. Dino and his crew, and the townspeople weaponize hearsay and implication rather than stating blunt facts. This is why when he 'sees' her he's genuinely shocked for what he saw (or rather what he didn't). This keeps the focus on how rejection and social cruelty create Kainé’s trauma, because of the untrusting, brutal, aggressive story of the people in the cliff village, rather than reducing it to a simple anatomical reveal. The "lie" in the story is more about what others project onto her than any single than what she actually has inside her pantsu.
>>740966518>the advertisement for the remaster/remakeyeah nigger thats exactly whats wrong with it. same one that forced Emil into being complete faggot instead of just having an innocent, young crush on Nier? I'm honestly surprised people don't get that a story like NieR is supposed to be moldable and up for interpretation. The exact logistics matter less than the tone and the tragedy, but nothing never is outright explicitly confirmed except for what we literally see in-game. The core of the game is about the instability of belief, and navigating a world where definitive answers don't actually exist. But the masses are unable to take nuance, they just take everything at face value.Western fans desperately trying to force everything into categories they made up in their own heads challenge impossible.
>>740968761>Selling Kainé is both controversial, popular and Westeners love to characters that they can put in their little mental boxes inholy fucking gobbledygook
>>740968904>But the masses are unable to take nuance,It's a real tragedy the same people complaining games don't have good stories are the ones shitting all over games with good stories.
>>740965302Remember that scene where the village kids throw stones at Kaine? Well, that's fan faction, in the JP script they strip her down and make fun of her genitals. This was censored.>>740964869>>740965096Woah, OG Kid Nier looked fucking terrible, I can see now why the Americans asked for Daddy.
Frotting dicks with Kaine...
>>740964348The shadowlord theme is worse.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vZUbyM5PxY&list=RD9vZUbyM5PxY&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt6B2dt5vWs&list=RDrt6B2dt5vWs&start_radio=1
>>740969226>I can see now why the Americans asked for Daddy.That was something the devs opted to do on their own during development, it had nothing to do with external feedback
Do not open
>&list=RD9vZUbyM5PxY&start_radio=1>&list=RDrt6B2dt5vWs&start_radio=1
>>740964075Based. Genetic aberrations should not have perfect looks
>>740970248Not opening because it not canon.
>>740970829how do you know if you didn't open it?
>>740970989Ending E is canon
>>740970989I refuse
>>740971041Emil looked really cool with 4 arms
>>740964075girl i work with looks EXACTLY like version on the right
The remake version is objectively more attractive. However, you don't play these games for the attractive characters and it makes me question almost the entirety of yoko taro's fanbase. Do you like Kaine because she's a character who has gone through a lot, or do you like her because she struts around in lingerie? It feels like it's missing the point of these games entirely but fuck if square is shoving 2B into every single damn crossover they can, maybe not.
>>740966787Me see A21 pink cock...
>>740964075Say it taint so.
>>740971509oh my god shut the fuck up.
>>740972334No.
>>740971509they like her because she has a penis and wears lingerie, they dont give a shit about her backstory or trauma. they NieR in general as just another franchise with asses and some sad moments.
Automata beats Replicants
>>740971509I like her as a character and ALSO I am allowed to like how attractive she is because I'm not a faggot constantly pining for other's validation.
>>740972472for them NieR in general is just*
>>740964075>OG Escaflowne vs the Movie
>>740964075>tranny vs anime avatar
>>740972516>Replicants (plural)wendigoes are among us
>>740964075Left looks surprised, then pissed offRight looks like "umm.." and then slightly irritated (also broken neck)>>740964614Left looks angry, right looks constipatedWhoever defends this demake is a fag, no idea why so many people suck it offCloud strife horseface kaine > plastic doll kaine any fucking timeSame goes for all characters, the environments, lighting, atmosphere, and the fucking ost
>>740964348She is cuter and that's a bad thing
>>740973015pipe down autist
>>740973320>trying to toss autist as an insult on 4chanFuck off you trash eating normalfag
>Soul>Soulless
>bulge>bulgeless
>>740973526>>740973586Original: big cockRemastered: small weewee
Play the original because Dad Nier is superior.
>>740964075>soul means "looks ugly as shit"I agree.
Play the remaster because Brother Nier is superior.
>>740964075I think kaine on the left is more attractive
>>740974035holy chad made her メス顔
>>740973879>>740974035I like both equally but brother definitely fits the story better
>>740964430>kaine has a penisFutafag headcanon. It was never stated in game she has one.
>>740964430>kaine has a penisNormiefags can't stop copium. It was already stated in game she has one.
>>740964075>right looks like michael jackson>left looks like some weird demon person and no I don't mean the moon looking ass nigger in the back
>>740968904>>740969079Are you purposely being retarded Yoko Taro outright said Emil was gay and it was the original western release that CENSORED Emil being gay
I like anime but man they really didn't need to anime-ify it like that wtf
>>740975717Yeah they really DIDN'T need to use new technology to more accurately model the characters like the concept art, but they did and I guess you have to cry about it because what the fuck else are you gunna do with your life?
>>740964075Nah, that was a legit improvement.
>>740967731Kaine has a pussy too, the addition of the penis was caused by a glitch in the system.Poison only has a dick, if he hasn't already gotten it removed.
>>740974035So Kaine wants to fuck Nier and Emil wants to get boned by Nier, is this correct?
>>740965457Nah. I don't think it was a huge downgrade compared to the original, but outside of the remake's Hills of Radiant Wind which is genuinely better than the original, it's a downgrade. It's not enough to ruin the experience either way, but I do miss a lot of the friction and percussion in the OG's sountrack
>>740971509I like her because she's cute, loyal, useful, a reliable friend and genuinely better than most women IRL by 3 factors of 10 in all categories. At the end of the day, her dick doesn't even work since it's a artifact of her manufacturing process fucking up, so you can just cut it off and live a happy life with her after going full TSD of course.
>>740976135Poison ass look delicious
>>740965154>>740974691男性器 = male genitals半陰陽 = hermaphroditesource: https://archive.org/details/nierthecompletegrimoirenier/
>>740964075my balls slapping her balls as I'm thrusting into her pussy
>>740964075picking up this game as an example of soul vs soulless is a prime example of not understanding why they even remade iteven before Automata released, Yoko Taro always said he wasn't satisfied with how Replicant turned out to be, it lacked content they wanted to implement, they forced him to change protagonist for the western market which ultimately led to reduced time for polishing the content, and even the character themselves never really looked like their character sheet designs.meanwhile the remake fixes all of that.for all intents and purposes, the 1.22... version of the game is how it was always meant to be from the start, with the older version being the butchered and essentially unfinished product of publisher pressure.so it's quite literally that 1.22 is soul, original is soulless
>>740978837Damn all the way back they planned for the game to have broken animations because they would make them for one model and then repurpose them to new models a whole console generation later because the sequel would launch them into the mainstream? The madlads.
>>740978837You're right for the most part although I disagree about the original game being soulless. The original does have a lot of soul. It's just incomplete compared to the 1.22...., which is complete and even more full of soul.
>>740979202i never said anything like that>>740979324what i meant by soulless isnt about the content of the game itself, rather the state of the product, which is more the result of bad publisher management of the project rather than failure of the devs.in these terms, when comparing it to the remake, the original is the lackluster result of a vision that couldnt be fully realized due to forcing the devs to work on something they didn't intend to make(Gestalt) resulting in removing development time and resources from what was planned(all the cut content), hence it's "soulless", meanwhile the remake is the fully realized original intent, what the devs and Taro imagined the game to be, unconstrained by publisher pressure and following the original plan of who to focus on and what to include in the final product, hence soul
>>740968761lol or the publisher didn't let them include the description of a throbbing cock in a video game because it would raise the age rating, thus cost them saleshere's >>740978425 run through google translate
>>740980313Yet Baldur's Gate 3 and Cyberpunk 2077 i included them.
>>740980558those games are way newer, you can get away with a lot more nowadaysbut they also don't depict erections aside from that one chromanticore poster, nor do they have explicit story descriptions of a veiny boner being jerked offmakes me think of that one book in the elder scrolls that describes a lady taking a barbed cat penis, though that still uses indirect suggestive language iirc
>>740980558Not in the Japanese versions they don't. NieR is by Japanese devs.
>>740964075Right looks better.
>>740980558It's okay if western games do it
>>740964348And?Cute=/=good
>>740966124>no what the creator said doesn't count Are you fucking hearing yourself retard? You can have your stupid headcanon but you can't enforce it on everyone else because you are in denial.
>>740979783>what i meant by soulless isnt about the content of the game itself, rather the state of the product, which is more the result of bad publisher management of the project rather than failure of the devs.Okay that's fair. It's funny. The rushed version of Replicant and the westernized version of Replicant in Gestalt didn't even manage to crack public onsensus at the time outside of niche forums, yet the best and most true to the original vision is celebrated as the best version and sold the most units. YOu really wonder what's going on in a publisher's head when they make weird decisions like when they decided Replicant needed a version of the game that Westerners would like even though most Westerners that would've bought Nier would've wanted the original Brother Nier.
>>740964075I literally "got" this game pretty early after release and then never played it. May as well just delete it at this point.
>>740964075right looks like another generic moeblob waifuleft looks like she's staring into my soul
>>740965302She has a fat bulge in her dlc costume.
>>740980558That was just tranny shit, not futa.
>>740980940>describes a lady taking a barbed cat penis>not human male on neko slutCringe
>>740964075>>740982302is there a mod where she has an idle animation of her scratching her sack?
>>740965302the original 2010 Japanese version of the grimoire, dumbassread: >>740978425
>>740982393I would guess so.
>>740964075>>740964614>>740964869>>740965021>>740965096The Remake looks like Gook-shit. Completely washed of any identity; you could throw the Stellar Blade sex doll right next to them and you wouldn't bat an eye. Can't wait for S.Korea and China to go extinct.
>>740965096I miss Papa nier...
>>740978425>not ingameThanks for proving my point, futafag.
>>740985161>>740982302
>>740985161>>740966009it's so tasteful...
>>740985161it's official lore content that came out a month after the original release in japan that supports what is suggested by the game, retard.they can't sell the game as CERO D if they wrote straight up "she's jerking her fat cock"
>>740971509I didn't like her at all really.
>>740973015They defend it because they've played it. The facial animations are way better making the cutscenes better, the gameplay is better too. So it's just better.
>>740978837
>>740982072>I wonder what westerners want, a nice young man that grows into a chad or an awkward BDSM faggy looking old man
>>740968761>little mental boxes"futanari" is not a little mental box westerners like to put things in, it's a concept most westernoids can't even acknowledge.You need to stop coping. Kaine canonically has a big fat cock which she jerks off furiously. If this upsets you, go play something else.
>>740976693>her dick doesn't even workfalse>so you can just cut it off and live a happy life with her This post was sponsored by the IDF and the State of Israel.
>>740987212>retards consumed slop and love to do soFtfyNo reason to have redesigned every character to look like a lifeless android like they're from automata. Really, they look even worse than that.
>>740964075left looks like something you guys would make zero jawnone
>>740964075>>740989428Left is after the Korean bone jaw surgery
>>740989364Man you faggots will fucking argue about the stupidest shit despite concrete evidence to the contrary. The point is that Kaine, Nier and every major character in the original Replicant was supposed to look like their remake counterparts as shown here: >>740987315The fact that the artists were able to match Automata's concept drawings with the real character models was due to the having more money and time to work on them and get them to look that way.Why are you fags so adamant that you're right hen all evidence is contrary to your retarded worldview?>>740987408I think Japs just pegged us as gay tbqh. They aren't entirely wrong considering the amount of men that worship muscular men and want them in all their games and media.
>>740989616>no you don't understand they were SUPPOSED to look like lifeless plastic garbage>the PS3 just couldn't do it!!Suck a dick, retard
>>740989943After you, you cockmongling faggot
>>740989364Why do you think they did it then? This isn't a cheap remake, they had the original devs in for it adding lots of new story content.
>>740964803>>740964614Damn dude they drained any and all emotion from her, she doesn't look like she would be angry and raunchy all the timePrettier sure but at what cost
>>740990504
>>740990875you can not be serious
>>740990934In the post you are replying to, the anon who wrote it literally says the original looks better in still shots but the remake looks better in terms of graphics and in terms of actual animated cutscenes.Basically, even the cherrypicking anon who actually played the game disagrees with you because the remake is an actual work of love, made by the original team with Yoko Taro directing the project so it ended up being more like the actual vision they were going for rather what they could slap together for a final product before funding ran out like the original was. Now stop sperging anabout nothing.
>>740990026No I insist you first, since you're the retarded faggot who thinks the PS3 couldn't handle some soulless doll models.>>740990059To appeal to the Automata consumer who didn't even know the first Nier existed.>1 ending and 1 cut segment that isn't even good>lots of new story contentPosts like these create the meme of every thread being called out for shilling, and I don't find Automata's Bayo-for-retards ported combat to be a very big upgrade either. Nierfags need to just accept that people don't play these games for their gameplay at all.
>>740991163>work of loveHilarious
>>740989364nostalgia goggles are a hell of a drug I tell you father nier would have been fine too.
>>740991495>no argumentNever is, never will be>THIS SLOP JUST TASTES BETTER TO ME IT'S FRESHER SLOP AND I REALLY ENJOY HOW EVERYONE LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE FRESH OFF A SPACE STATION ASSEMBLY LINE INSTEAD OF BEING HUMAN REPLICANTS WHO LIVE IN A DESERT >UMMMMMM BTW WANNA READ MY FANFIC ABOUT A2 AND ALL HER DEAD WAR BUDDIES, OMG IT JUST MADE ME CRY AS I WROTE IT Terrible fanbase for these games honestly
>>740970248who else will I eat ice cream with
>>740991232>>1 ending and 1 cut segment that isn't even goodDude, the ship is better than almost every side quest in the timeskip, purely because it changes three times.And it adds the proper ending, yes.>and I don't find Automata's Bayo-for-retards ported combat to be a very big upgrade eitherCompared to the abysmal original one, yes, the new one doesn't play like a slog.
>>740964075Both raped a corpse
>>740994443>dude its so so goodIt sucks ass really >the proper endingThe book ending curated to serve a sequel >Compared to the abysmal original one, yes, the new one doesn't play like a slog.I will happily stab a billion things with a spear in the original than play some twice rehashed Bayonetta-like abortion. Automata is impossible to replay because of the dull combat.
I really hate how plastic-y kaine looks. Loved the game but I could never enjoy in cutscenes with her in it.
>>740974035Trash opinion.
>>740964075I ain't afraid to say it but the left makes her look like Woody.
