Why didn't Reno just capture Aerith before she got Cloud as her bodyguard.
>>740972169Reno is gay for Cloud
>>740972230Because she has to come WILLINGLY, dumbass. Reno was trying to wear her down.
>>740972762What? He was about to capture her by force and by some providence Cloud fell through her roof 5 minutes earlier. I guess all the years before he just didn't bother, despite watching over her. Wack writing
>>740972169He wasn't ordered to until the game began
>>740972230You may be right, we don't know who Reno likesRude likes TifaTseng likes Aerith
>>740972169Reno is the only likeable Turk. Others are forgetable
>>740972169Didn't the new novel say Reno is the only turk that talks to Aerith? That's ridiculous, she gets along with Rude in Remake, did Nojima forget his lore again
>>740972169Rude and Reno had a morale code. As long as she stayed put, Shinra was satisfied. After she came of breeding age however, they got the order to extract her to commence experimentation. That was right around the time Cloud showed up.
>>740976001>right around timeYou mean on the exact day
>>740976051Tomato, tomatoe
>>740976051That's just how FF is.Sephiroth also happens to be a planetary level threat in the same era as the last cetra is.
>>740972169Fuck you Reno!
>>740972230I thought he was for rude
>>740976001morale code to nuke innocent people?
>>740975319All Turks but Tseng are likable in the original. In Before Crisis Veld, Shotgun, Two Guns, Gun, Martial Arts (Female), Legend, Vincent, Elena, Reno, Rude and Tseng are likable. In Advent Children Reno and Rude are likable. In Crisis Core Shuriken/Cissnei is likable. In Remake every Turk is likable, though Rude falters a bit.
>>740972169In the original continuity only Tseng and the rookie Turk knew where she was and Tseng lied to the bigwigs, that they can't find her, because he likes her.In the Remake there's some illogical bullshit about her having to willingly do it and all the Turks know where she is and keep tabs on her.
>>740972947>What? He was about to capture her by forceno he wasn't; the only reason he was there was to monitor her, and then Cloud showed up and he checked in, perceived him as a threat to Aerith and attacked. She has to willingly go to the Shinra building, as Hojo points out when she is finally there. Tsung did not physically force her to go, he just informed her of her limited options; Aerith went willingly in exchange for Marlene being taken to safety at Aerith's house.
>>740982189Maybe I'm misremembering then. I thought Reno was about to capture her, that's why Cloud pushes the barrels on shinra soldiers so she can escape
>>740981465Not really. Elena is annoying
>>740983107it actually does look like that, but review the dialog again. Rude and Reno's are there to make sure no actual harm comes to her, from any source, because her perception of freedom outside the building is important. She has to willingly provide the location of the Promised Land, according to Hojo, so thats why she was allowed to remain outside the building. Those perceived to be a threat to her (like Cloud) are valid targets.
>>740983228She is likeably annoying. In Rebirth her dialog shows her as a tryhard afraid of failure after she gets whooped in the Crystal Caves. crying over her drink in Junon. To me, she's no more annoying than Reno or Rude. Probably the most annoying for the most time is Tsung, simply becaues he is the boss and sticks the most to the mission.
>>740976051Thats kind of how most stories work dumbass. Wouldn't make a good story if cloud fell threw a roof a month after shinra captured her
>>740981465What made them likeable? And why do you hate Tseng?
>>740982189Wrong. They get the instruction to bring her by force when Cloud shows up, Tseng even slaps her in the original.
>>740972169Aerith ward hopped and pwned him
>>740984292not in Remake.
>>740984631It's the same instruction in Remake, they no longer give a fuck about being careful because they believe they can just breed her.
>>740981391They were ordered to, do you think your government wouldn't do it?
Reeve is the only good character in the FFVII multiverse. Everybody else is a selfish, narcissistic faggot.
>>740986376Even Bugenhagen?
>>740986935Bugenhagen is interesting conceptually, within the context of the story, as a middle-ground to both major ideologies.But as an actual character? He's just Generic Exposition Elder who promptly disappears from the plot as soon as he tells the party where to go next.
>>740984189>What made them likeable?Just doing their job for a paycheck, but not sacrificing the self to that job like fools. Cool clandestine agents with a bit of flashiness and professionalism. Yet grounded by mundanity and humanized by humor, gossip and informality during off-hours.If you're asking in the context of Before Crisis events, then the secrets, under the table arrangements, mutually assured destruction deals, recontextualizing subterfuge and pretenses at aloofness and other behaviors are quite cool.>And why do you hate Tseng?He has a stick up his ass and tendency to be a bit dry. He also lacks charisma to truly pull off being the most evil Turk, compounded by most of his compatriots, self-aware villain Turks, oozing with charm.>>740986376The Compilation showed in the margins that politically he's quite a corrupt asshole himself. But in standalone VII, I agree.
>>740986935Well he's definitely narcissistic. Remember in Rebirth when Tifa asks a question about the lifestream and he calls her a retard and forces her to go to a seminar?
