>Former Bungie community manager Liana Ruppert took to social media to address player assumptions and speculations>People keep comparing Marathon numbers to Destiny and frankly, that's ignorant. Marathon was never designed to do [Destiny] numbers>Their value (Bungie) isn't SOLELY in Marathon but if Marathon is considered a failed project — which it is not at this timeSo glad to hear, I’ve been telling everyone that the game is doing fantastic
>>740981067Huh? Chuddies? Our response?
>>740981220I'm tired, Boss.
>>740981067Chuds are busy playing stellar blade defense force
>>740981220Its not my job to buy and support a game i dont want to play. Why do these companies keep thinking we HAVE to support them when they waste money on products we dont want?
>>740981067>FORMER
>if you dont consooome the dog shit trans rights literally end george floyd died for nothing and orange man winsHeh. OHMMMM
>>740981067B-but the steam charts…
Damn, that's crazy, looks like Bungie dies to its own fucking incompetence then. As we all expected it to by now.
>>740982418Ah yes, lets listen to a fucking former COMMUNITY MANAGER over factual numbers.
>>740981067>ex-dev>Liana Ruppert>previous employment: community managerthe former destiny community manager known to spout lies for attention, general insanity, and just being an unpleasant woman in general.No surprise she is once again attention seeking.
>>740981067>not a floplmao
>>740983476Sorry chud, sony are committed to marathon with 5 seasons of content in production
>>740983476There's easily another ~150k players on consoles let's be realistic. nobody bought this on PC, all of the PC people are still playing D2
>>740984883Yeah, I heard the deluxe edition was $14 on PS5 last week, it reached the top of the charts even above WolverineThere’s way more people playing Marathon in consoles
>kill the game that people actually liked and wanted to continue>"YOU HAVE TO SUPPORT US WITH [new game that no one actually wanted]"
>>740981220Don't care and wont ever touch woke slop, but if the studio closes I will be there to mock.
>>740983603more seasons = more money sony is flushing down the toilet. fine by me.
>>740981067>if you don't support us now, there won't be anymore Bungie to support!your terms are acceptable
>>740981067>community managerthe most useless role in all of gaming, even marketers are more useful
>how do you not get that we do not flop, you chuds? It's in the name, we call outselves "Antiflop".
>>740981067>you need to eat shit now so maybe they might make something actually edible laterIf they want me to play it they can start by rebuilding it into something that is actually good
>>740983603>5 seasons of lossAre they fulfilling a contract like what happened with the suicide squad game? kek
so how'd that free week work out for you guys?oh...
>>740981067>Supporting unpopular game will keep skinwalker studio afloatI think I'll just do nothing and purchase nothing. Provide a good service at a reasonable price and I will "support" you with my purchase.
>>740985735Community managers went from tardwranglers in forums to ticking timebombs as social media emerged, quite fascinating really.The overinflated ego stayed the same though.
>>740985863>Flattening alreadyOoooooooof
I don't understand what is so good about Destiny that it justifies this level of absolutely cucked behavior from its players
>>740985863So what are we thinking? Game dies by the third season?
>>740986069most likelyseason 2 was supposed to be the big reset moment, and the result was a whopping 5k bump in daily highs that's already dwindlingwe're going sub 10k in a month for surehow can you financially justify the resources to keep it alive?
>>740986054if you think about destiny as a casino it makes a lot more sense
Destiny 2 was never good.
>>740981067I spit and spit and spit on you. You like the spit so I spit more, my cum and spit and your cum and spit. We’re three kinds of spit all over. It’s spit-a-palooza. I laugh at my joke and you are not laughing so it isn’t that good a joke and I should work on it a little more. The spit covers everything. I love you. I love everything about you and I am so ashamed. What’s there to be ashamed of, little dog? That we’re gay? But what can I do. We love each other. We spit on each other. We make spit. That’s all we do. And fuck. Sometimes we fuck. The fucks and spits are interchangeable. They work together or apart. I can’t tell them apart
>>740986054Its a 10 year old game console mmo with over 30 million players broThey have stockholm syndrome, sunk cost fallacy, man child disease. Its the same reason these empty husk creatures still grind WoW and FFonline or even warframe. Just a mindless routine that they can never escape.
>bungie will die trying to life-support the corpse of marathonsad
>>740981067>>740981220Brendan Lowry has NO dick. >>740985479...for one day at position 5, as all of the new season's game passes got processed. Then it immediately fell to it's normal position in the low 50's. >>740985735No. Out uselessed by EX community manager. Ex community manager can lie without the compnay being sued.
>>740985863Die die die letsgo letsgo letsgo
>>740986481I will show up at the door of your child’s school, shirt off, unzipped. I will put a dead bird in your car’s engine block. I will give your boss a footlong with a note attached saying “This is a footlong. So am I.” I will go to a family reunion and call your dad a kike. You are so gay and I am so not. This is fact, you fuck, don’t you forget it. I am not a gay man. I am not a gay man. Gay men like to do gay man stuff like wear scarves and make their asses look large and have sex with other gay men, but I do none of these things. I will not apologize. No, I will not apologize.
>It’s not a flop. IT’S NOT A FLOP. Stop calling it a flop. I SWEAR TO SCIENCE IF YOU CALL IT A FLOP ONE MORE TIME
>>740985851Nope! This is 100 percent sony's charity here.>>740986069Game was stillborn. It's more about when Sony pulls the plug and what they decide to do with Bungie. Normally, at a quarter billion dollar lost in launch and more losses every month, you would have seen the plug pulled by now.
>>740986546I, not being gay, will hold your hand while walking to the car because you are gay and it’s raining. We are all the way down at the end of the sidewalk, but I’m not going to rush this. I am a straight man, so I hold doors for you. I will put the car seat in for you and buckle you in because you are gay and driving a vehicle could damage your sphincter. I will say “I love you” before hanging up the phone because I know how much you appreciate it. I will put a pillow between your head and mine because the sex is so gay I have to protect myself. I am so not a gay man.
>>740986054it's a mix of people legitimately enjoying the game, and feeling burned because Bungie let the game die from neglect in service of an absolute dogshit game in Marathonto them, if Bungie had bothered to show even a bit of love to Destiny 2, the game would still be fine
>>740986481It makes it all the more astounding that they let it fall without giving fuckin anything realistic for those people to jump to.
Okay /v/, youre now in charge of Marathons development team and have to find a way to get playersWhat do you do?
>>740986647>sony>smart business decisions
>>740986658I will punch a gay man in the face. I will go to that gay man’s workplace and make it snow with salt and pepper and a shovel. I will use a blowtorch to make a swastika on the car door of a gay man. I will go into a gay man’s house and I will put salt in his sugar bowl. I will take a bunch of gay men in a room, and I will get naked in front of them. I will go into a gay man’s office and I will take the mouse out of his computer and I will eat the thing with a knife and fork. I will tell the wife of a gay man that her husband is gay, which he is. I will say, “Wow, are you gay?” to a gay man. I will send an email to a gay man which says “You look so gay.”
>>740981220Cool story, still not buying it tho
>>740986658>find a way to get playerspermanent f2phefty new player incentivesdifferent, unique, better incentives for the faithful who've been playing all along or bought early and came backeven then, it's probably not enough
>>740986697I am a white person who likes to call black people nigger. And who am I to give advice to the young? Who am I to have an opinion? I am old, old as the days of the dinosaur and the hairless amoeba, old as the birth of the first whore. Old as the last whore. I am old and old, the dinosaur says, and the hairless amoeba agrees. Amoebas are in agreement that they are hairless. So why not a whore? Old as a whore, is what I am. Old as the birth of the last whore and the death of the first whore. I am as ancient as a whore. And whoring is something that I have never done. I have not done any of these things that you think I have done
>>740986793yeah going full free to play and catering HARD to casuals is the only chance they have left but even then marathon is a fundamentally unfun game
>>740986658Copy Warframe. Go completely F2P. Scrap all the PVP bullshit. Start doling out actual content. Stop nerfing players and let them feel powerful. Go all in on cosmetics. The whales will come. The player count will rise
>>740985826
>>740981067>make product A that sells 1,000,000 units>expand accordingly>make product B that sells 20,000>parent company shuts down production of A>no guys, B was never expected to do A numbers>we have tons of other products>please buy B
LMFAO
>>740982061>Why do these companies keep thinking we HAVE to support them when they waste money on products we dont want?DESU this general air of entitlement has done more to turn me off modern games than anything else. I hate this studio attitude that it's the random gamers responsibility to keep them afloat. Go fuck yourself. If I have to stick to my older games to fill my few hours of gamings a week, so be it.
>>740986069>Dead on arrival>Closed in two weeks>I-it will close before season one>D-dead by season 2>J-just trust me, closed by season 3…>PLEASE DIE PLEASE DIE PLEASE DIEDo chuddies really?
>>740987149They had a free week. Not a free weekend, a free week. And they put the game on sale. Even after all that its dipping back down to what it was before all that. You can't honestly be that naive to think this game has legs
>>740986793>permanent f2pWonder, very likely wont happen, this yeld will look super bad to inverstors, they didn't do that even with concord that had a bigger loss and just decided to pull the plug at once.
>>740986658redo all the designs and turn it into a gacha game with cute anime style waifus
>>740987240idk man, sony seems like they will prop up this flop for years to come out of spite or something. any normal company would have put this shit on maintenance mode already or shut it down. not sony.
>>740986658Hand over my resignation letter. Fuck this shit.
>>740981067No shit, they killed their only other means of generating income. Fucking idiots. I don't even like Destiny, it's just really fucking obvious all the way over here.
>>740981067>gamers are essentially retardedYup, called it from day 1. Marathon was never meant to be a hit. Sony knew what they were funding. Arc Raiders wasnt even around at the time to skew expectations. Matter fact, them converting Fairgame$ to an extraction shooter as well, tell us they are quite happy with Marathon’s performance and business model. But everyone was too busy looking at steam charts to notice. GG to Bungie. Culture Warrior and D2 trannies unironically lost this fight.
But what if I WANT Bungie to die?
>the game that lost millions of dollars isn't a failure, chudWhat is failure then? Total shutdown of the company?
game is dead, why not just make destiny 3
>>740987810Because a D3 in the style of D2 isn’t sustainable anymore in 2026, its an antiquated business model. Shit, Bungie was on the verge of death if not for Sony at the time. If a D3 is ever to be greenlit, it would have to be a boxed product at this point, something akin to borderlands 4. Marathon is already a million times more profitable than D2.
the rare double flatline
>>740981067>Marathon was never designed to do [Destiny] numbersDoes he mean that the game wasn't meant to succeed like Destiny did? Despite the fact that it's cost Sony $4.8 Million?
>>740987479they can't shut it down because they need to look strong and show players that they won't kill it quickly like they did with concord if they kill concord and marathon then they might as well cancel the horizon live service game and fairgame$ too
>>740988060d3 is profitable because they have a fanbase willing to play d2 still over 100k. even if temporary, it's not dead unlike marathon.
>>740981067Why would we want to keep Bungie afloat? They haven't made anything worth playing since early Halo games.
>>7409881274.8 million sounds pretty cheap, is that number accurate?
>>740988361I'm sorry, it actually cost Sony $4.8 BILLION
>>740988127It costs way less to upkeep and run marathon compared to destiny
>>740988425Yeah because there's no players, no expectations and no content lmfao
>>740988158This, optics play a big role in keeping Marathon alive as well, not that the game is dying or anything, its actually doing normal extraction shooter numbers. But imagine them shutting down Marathon after Concord. Who would even trust them with something as big as D3? Nobody, and im saying this as a former D2 fag and now Marathon enjoyer. If they shut down Marathon, there is no way in hell im giving them more. Not for a D3, not any other live service. It would nuke their reputation.
>>740981067It's a flop, it didn't flop as hard as I expected it to but it still flopped
oh damn if some dumb bitch says so it must be true
why is /v/ so obsessed with marathon again?
>>740988640Culture war faggotry and D2 trannies behaving like psychotic ex gf’s
Dropped Marathon once the game killed me during the exfil sequence because the timer is fucked up. Reported and was told it was intended that not all exfils actually work in time.The fucking TIMER is not correct. In an extraction shlooter.
>>740981067I pray that Sony continues to fund and support Marathon for years to comeBecause I want to see them lose as much money as possible on this piece of shit game and to ensure they will always know they made the worst acquisition in video game history (so far and likely for all future)
>>740983476>free game>paid game>paid game with cultish sex mod fanbase
>>740986658Never played it, but I can only think of two things that could work. The first is a killer expansion/reworking that wins everyone over, maybe a robust pve addition, maybe make it like Destiny. The other is go full horny with a bunch of hot girls and make a casual pvp mode, if that doesn’t already exist. I’m just not interested in an extraction shooter.
It's not doing fantastic.It's a multiplayer game that is suffering from low numbers, you virtually can't play the game in Australia outside of peak hours. Even then you get thrown into laggy matches with people halfway round the world.The recent introduction of the "PvE" mode has improved times slightly, but that was more to do with also the free week, which is also seeing a drop off now.
>>740987810Why would you even WANT a Destiny 3, given how Bungie treats its playerbase like garbage?What is so special about Destiny that it causes this absolutely cucked behavior???
>>740982061>Why do these companies keep thinking we HAVE to support them when they waste money on products we dont want?But, they don't? Like, if you don't want Bungie to keep making more games, then don't buy it. They never go>YOU FUCKING CHUDS. BUY THIS POS GARBAGE OR I CAN'T FEED MY WIFE'S SONOP's news post is just laying down the deets in a shrimple fashion.
>>740986054>what is so good about DestinyNothing, Bungo was already raping it to death back in 2018.
>>740983603So did concord
>>740988425What does that matter when you start $250m in the red and don't make any money because the player base is fucking pathetic. Also the whole "marathon wasn't supposed to do destiny numbers" is complete fucking bullshit. This was intended to replace Destiny as the cash cow from the very start. That's why they put D2 on the back burner after TFS, relegating it to a skeleton crew doing smaller scale and less frequent expansions while pouring all their money and manpower into Marathon's development. It was 1000% meant to do Destiny numbers.
>>740989265they're just gaslighting us man, they know what they're doing when they say shit like that
>>740989105>you virtually can't play the game in Australia outside of peak hoursOCE fags always say this and it's baffling each time that you think anyone ever takes you as a metric of anything. I'm not someone who plays Marathon either. I'm speaking purely out of experience with playing a lot of slop shooters and what not, and this is a constant phenomena.
>>740989379>it's a heckin gaslighting dogwhistleAh, apologies. I don't converse with SJWs. This is the end of this reply chain for me.
>>740989424yup. you cant play video games that are not FOTM or popular slop like CoD or some shitty moba in OCE. youre going to have to move to a proper country if you want to play video games.
>>740989351Destiny is an MMO that did not require a subscription and was pretty much never profitable for bungie after D1 wrapped up. They made it on a loss for pretty much all of D2s lifespan and they wouldve shut down completely if Sony didn't buy them. Marathon cost a lot because it was rebooted constantly, but it's a much smaller project compared to Destiny.
>>740981067I wish people here liked to play Destiny 2, I hate the twitter faggot community
>>740981067>>People keep comparing Marathon numbers to Destiny and frankly, that's ignorant. Marathon was never designed to do [Destiny] numbers"Hey, guys. Its totally fine that our game is doing dogshit. Thats what we were aiming for. We totally wanted our game to be dogshit. Thats a success for us.""Also please ignore our sales projections from last year where being a top 5 seller of 2026 was the bare minimum needed for it to be considered a success."lmfaoBDFfags will say any dumb shit to save face.
>>740989951I used to like it but Bungie really fucked things with Edge of Fate with new stats and armor tiering.
>>740989769You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. Everything you said was wrong. Incredible.
>>740989951I've considered playing it, but I'm not going to waste my time or money on a game that has major content removed from it. I don't care what their reasoning is.
>>740985826Who is that
>>740989951Why would I want to play a game that treats its community like dogshit? There's a reason only retards on Twitter still play it
>>740983603And don't let me stop them
>>740981067thats hilarious, bungie are actual retards. imagine fumbling destiny for this disgusting dei tranny extraction shooter that has no staying power. I don't even like destiny but it was actually successful unlike this
>>740990173it's pretty fun, I have like 5k hours across all platforms
>>740981067>we spent 10 years and hundreds of millions of dollars on a game we never wanted to do even half the numbers of destinydoes anybody actually believe this?
>>740990269Jesus Christ
>>740990307It's just shills being shills. There's a dude a couple posts up saying Destiny 1 or 2 never made Bungie a profit. They'll say literally anything at this point.
Why does /v/ hate this game so much? When Destiny was out you all complained about that too
>>740983476>already back to end of s1 numberslmao the f2p week brought no players, what's more, new season didn't even bring back previous players who invested 40 bucks + 100s of hours lolwhat a disaster
>>740990112ex Bungie devs have literally said multiple times this week that the studio was in the red for years.
>>740990509Most of it was out of love for the game and wanting them to correct their mistakes. some they did, most they didn't. It's still a fun game. I don't even want to play Marathon because the whole concept of the gameplay has zero appeal to me. If the game had a story campaign and traditional co-op/multiplayer (completely different game) I would have been interested.
>>740981067At this point I don't care if its a flop or not, I won't play it.
>>740981067
>>740990307>missive game company would rather spend their dwindling money on propping up something already at least bringing them some cash than gamble on an unproven concept this is every big game company currently you're just retarded
>>740990628It's just Destiny with a better inventory system
>>740982061Chill it with the antisemitism
>>740986658Change artstyle so everything isn't so ugly. Seperate pve and pvp modes with pvp being stuff like team deathmatch and capture the flag. Honestly pivot away from extraction entirely and use the maps as a battle royale or something
>>740990763it has the destiny gunplay but nothing else
>>740986658Add Bazz
>>740990810they have sunk cost on the extraction shooter concept
>Wanna get a Marathon sponsorship?>Then you will not talk about Destiny 3 or compare it to Arc Raiders or some such
not enough blast having in this thread. Delete.
Would buy for 10€, no more, and play casually. The hardcore part of getting the keys and Cryo is absolutely demential.
>>740981067>game wasn't designed to do big numbers>please support the game and the studio by bumping up our numbers>also, don't be ignorantbros, this cunt even has blue hair.
>>740990954HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT GAME CHUD IT's *** *******
>>740990136The art directorhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh8GyCiuzCs
>>740990954>Zero confidence in your own product
>>740990041It didn't need to do good numbers. Also, please play it because we need higher numbers.
>>740986658>What do you do?point out the employees white privileges and then fire them accordinglypoint out how brave trans people are to the remaining black employees and then fire them accordinglycongratulate the remaining black trans person for winning employee of the monthshut studio down and sell the office
>>740990597Yeah, that means since the end of The Final Shape/from Edge of Fate onward. If D2 was never profitable where they get the cash to not only sustain themselves for those years but to buy themselves from Activision? Stop being a disingenuous piece of shit.
>>740991248lmao I still can't believe that's realthe absolute insecurity of Bunghole
>>740989265>If you don't want Bungie to keep making more games, then don't buy itYeah, nice hostage situation, Sony
what if I want bungie to die?
>>740988060I'd just want them to simply make it a F2P trial with a monthly sub and a biyearly expansion IE WoW
>>740981067I don’t buy games to help the fucking studio lmao. you are a business, our relationship exists entirely for you to get my money by offering something I want to buy
>>740982818This. I still can't believe this bitch pretended that she turned down $67 million dollars.
Destiny status?
>>740992887sunsettedvaulted
>>740992931F
>>740988060Dumb fucking meme from retarded shillniggers.Marathon is currently a growing net loss, kill yourself.
>>740981067>>740981220Time to sunset some Bungie employees
>>740983476nein nein NEIN
Not a flop
>>740986658>>740987510Honestly this.There was a chance before Bungie sunset Destiny 2 to win players over, but who in their right mind would try the game that killed Destiny? Which happens to be a vapid money hungry trite game skinwalking an IP from 30 years ago.This is as many players as it will get.Even 343i did not fuck Halo this BAD and they're fucking retarded.And look at this scenario, they'd fire the team behind destiny and expand marathon's a little.What difference does 200 extra workers make for a game that had a n initial team of 300? It makes no difference.300 hundred staff members could not kick Marathon out the door with more than 4 maps in total.Fucking pathetic.
>>740988420Yes, you are one sorry bitch, aren't you?
>>740990509Jews turned it into culture war bullshit and the shills are so annoying I want them all out of a job. Idk who thought an aggressive shilling campaign was a good idea for this game but it just makes me want it to die even more, that and the game is objectively shit and Bungie are shit devs who deserve bankruptcy.
I'm blasting doe. What do you think about chuddies? What do you think about that BISH?
>>740981067they should extend the f2p period to an entire year!
>>740987479you know ark raiders is at 24k right? the game all of you faggots kept comparing it to when D2 was at 9k playersa game can easily survive on whales alone
>>740990112niggerMarathon is 4 maps big which is still small for an extraction shooterDestiny 2 was an MMOWhich one do you think is cheaper to maintain and make new content for?
>>740981067>the best way to help the studioWhy are they acting like they are a charity?
>Sony killed Japan Studio and countless smaller, cheaper projects in order to buy Bungie and fund 1 (one) game from them before dyingI enjoyed TORtanic because I was a shithead that had fun, but Marathon and Bungie's failure is genuinely healing my soul.
>>740981067>woman goes on social media to lie instead of doing a real jobSaved you all some time
>>740993346I knew this game was doomed when I saw people talking about leaving the game running to make the player count look good
>>740988226>D2>not dead>unlike marathonWhos gonna tell him bros?
>>740994028>Japan StudioI miss them.The talent scattered and funny enough the Loco Roco team not only made Patapon and Gravity Rush, their work still persist and I think a few of them helped From Soft.Sadly the Socom team was not as fortunate and Guerilla keeps being tortured.
>>740981067ahh here comes the fake press again like how highguard said they didn't need a highplayer count just dedicated existing players a week before collapsing
>>74098665816 hour long threesome cutscene with Thief and Vandal.
>>740994364>I miss them.Me too.
why do people keep funding slop that is a failurehow do you spend 200 million dollars and get no playerswho is funding these colossal failures and why?
>>740994947I am
>>740986658fire every marathon developer and fund a new deus ex instead.
>>740993976The one that's actually making money LMAOhint: it's not Marathon.
>>740994947Black rockBecause it's funnyThere is no price to high to achieve social engineering. Even if only 1 person is indoctrinated it's a success, more than 1.4 million people rabidly defend this corporation btw.
>>740989246People want an FPS rpg-lite looter shooter MMO(ish) game and there really isn't another out thereThe closest alternative out there is probably Warframe but the loot system in that game is abysmal garbage if you like getting actual gear from kills and not spending 100's of hours grinding crafting fodder
>>740986972>Having to work with fox mcloud as your line managerGod that would suck on a 12 hour shift
>>740981067>Marvelous News>mfw I thought this thread was gonna be about Senran Kagura
>>740995440Yeah, especially when Fox McCholesterol keeps sneaking off with his pockets full of chicken nuggets.
>"PvPlite" mode turns into pure PvE loot simulator due to no-one wanting to play Rooks>is the most popular and liked thing in the game by farlmaowhen will Bungie read the room, replace the game director and hard pivot to PvEno-one outside of a tiny minority of sweats, cheaters, and streamers like extraction shooters, most people just want to log in and shoot braindead easy PvE enemies to get easy loot
>>740982518Granberry!
>>740995964They already replaced him. That's why you have Valorant gook and the game is a shitty hero shooter because that's all he knows.
>>740981067All they had to do was make good looking characters. Why is that so hard?
>>740996172whatever you say dude im having a blast with these kick*ss characters!!!!
>>740996428
>>740981067>we're at the "it doesn't need a lot of players to be successful" stage of ConcordlikesEnd of service and mass layoffs soon.
You faggots are more invested in this game than the handful of people left playing it.sort yourselves out.
>>740996534>
>>740981067LE LIVE SERVICE GAYME!!!!
>>740986658>More enemies>More maps>More priority contractsIt's really not that complicated.
>>740981067>Marathon is NOT a flopBAN STEAMED HAMS
>>740989105Speaking of achievements, the ratios for their completion are interesting.
>>740981220
I like Marathon and I hope it keeps getting updates.
>>740998831Free week actually kept them up pretty nicely.
>>740995262What is Marathon indoctrinating people into?
>>740995964Thief+vagrant being coomer bait for the porn addicted zoomers on top of actual PVE or at the very least "practice AI" mode would have saved this game. Marathon got 100% mismanaged by that valorant faggot.
>>740999273vandal*Oops. I keep killing these hobos and I still can't remember the name right.
>>740981067We are living in a time when game companies have to beg players for support. What happened to just making good games and having a backbone while doing so?
>>740999761games cost hundreds of millions of dollars to make and takes years of labor from hundreds of developersthe expected potential revenue from the game is already invested to new projects before the game is released, meaning when a gigaflop like Marathon fails to make back even half of its costs let alone the expected profits, a lot of people are getting fireddoes that answer your question?
>>741000016This angle doesn't answer the question. They do stuff that most of their audience either oppose or gently dislike while putting similarly flavored stuff into new games. It's so normalized now that when it doesn't happen it's the exception. I think anon's inquiry about backbone implies that everybody involved in picrel should have been fired immediately after they did or approved their thing. It's so weird that Western devs just became adversarial and divisive so quickly in the early 10s.
>>740981067It's a cool game. I tried it during the free week. I'd buy it for 10 euros. It needs something to hook you into the fantasy of the game though. Right now you just select a crash test dummy to play as, and get thrown into a colorful plastic playground. That's not a criticism of the visuals. The visuals are unique and cool, and I understand why the game looks the way it does. Not everyone understands it though and even I sometimes had trouble remembering what I'm playing as and where I am.
>>740989321Can some chuddie dig up Firewalk's statement 2 months after launch where they lined up their future seasonal plans?Or Sony doubling down, also 2 months after launch?It's just comedic how much you guys cling onto Concord's launch statement kekw.
>>740986069I agree with the other chudlets, it shuts down before season 2. Full stop.
bungie, more like bungle
>>740986054Bungie has unironically been psychologically torturing their hopelessly addicted loser playerbase for a decade straight. We're finally seeing the fallout of 10 straight unbroken years of genuine abuse kek
>>740986381Trvth. But normies loved it as it's not hard and you can play it after work for some loot rolls.
RAPED TO DEATH
>>741001645OH NO NO NO NO KEEEEEEEK
so what do i do if i want to play destiny 2?
>>740981067>bungie will die in my lifetimekinda surpring
>>741003883Wow, Highguard's launch day statement. I'm truly owned.Wait, why do you have to bring up other games to prove your point? Oh no... oh no no ahahaha, chuddies, can we ever win?
>>741003837
>>741003883Sony is giving marathon a year to turn things around. Given season 2's numbers that's clear to anyone that it's an impossible task. At that point in time bungie either stops existing and gets absorbed by playstation studios or destiny 3 gets announced.
>>741004006AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAGET RAPEDGET RAPEDGET RAPED
>>741004036I'm pretty sure they were betting everything on season 2 and it was a gigaflop, layoffs will start coming next week
>>741003883>can someone dig up Firewalk's statement 2 months after launch?>brings up what Wildlight said on launch dayare chuds actually retarded? it's also funny how the date is always cropped out to fit the narrative
>741004006 (Jew) I wonder what propels this strange mutilated creature to be 24/7 defending Bungie in Marathon/Destiny threads and what will happen to "her" when it inevitably gets killed by Sony. It's always the same dude too, his posting style never changes or evolves.
>>741004006You, the rapeeMe, the raper
>>741004238shouldn't you be "playing" your "game" troon? oh right nobody is doing that KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
>>740981067Help?
>>741004093When was this posted compared to the game's launch?
>>741004315still online btw. cry more.
>>741004337>>741004391you know that you're just riling people up to shit on your tranny garbage even harder when it inevitably shuts down right? now you've guaranteed that I'll spam threads about it daily for a year when this tranny shit with 5k players dies
>>741004391>still online btwSo am I.
>>740981067>Pay attention to me or I'll kill myselfWow Bungie really is a tranny studio
>>741004431>when this hypothetical event happens, I will have an enormous melty for an entire yearKEKW
>>740981067Community Manager's job is to. Literally. Play damage control. >FormerOh wow it's fucking nothing
>>741004036>Given season 2's numbers that's clear to anyone that it's an impossible task.I disagree. Season 2's QoL and balance changes have been really good. But the issue with it is the lack of content, especially in terms of story progression. If they can also keep adding content, and get some people from Sony who actually know how to advertise video games, then there is potential for revival.
>>741004531when this inevitable thing happens you'll get raped non stop for years
>>740981067Good, that's great. Wonderful.Can they WORK ON THE FUCKING GAME now? They're shipping updates with barely any features and they're still full of bugs.>Night Marsh still bugged>Cryo bugged
>>740981067I don't know why but I'm rooting for Bungie to break even with Marathon. I don't own a PS5 or anything and I haven't played their games since Halo Reach. But I just don't see them as a Concord dev, just a dev Sony overpaid an insane amount for
>>741004612>maratroon shill subhumans: season 2 will save marathon! free week will have 100k players on the first day!!!>season 2 is a gigaflop>uhhhhhhh actually season 3 willAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA GET RAPED GET RAPED
>>740985594based/thread
>>741004273>DA JOOS AND DA TROONS
>>740985594How is Marathon woke?
I like how marathon feels but it feels very empty for an extraction shooter, it's missing a lot of the meat that makes other extraction games enjoyable. Aside from going in and extracting there isn't much to do aside from upgrading your stash and your character. Locking most of the merchants also feels very annoying. The first rain map is the coolest map they've made, the rest feel kind of generic which is a shame considering the setting is actually very cool. It's very obvious that the game is missing something, but I couldn't really put my finger on what that would be and why I don't enjoy it as much as I did Dark and Darker for example.
>>741004740I'm not sure how this season is seen as a "disaster" unless your expectations were running wild.Season 2 has renewed interest and increased sales, fans are happy about the new updates this season bringsBungie's big changes to widen the audience won't really happen until Season 5 where they explicitly talk about blending the ecosystem of PvP and PvESo there's no large structural changes until that time, and everything else is going to be iterative or experimental with new content (maps, runners) along the way
>>741004865>reddit spacingdidn't read, get raped resetera tranny
>>741004612you could double the amount of content and it wouldn't double the player base. The game is doomed in every sense of the word.People who enjoy marathon really enjoy marathon. That's cool. But the extraction genre is so niche, especially one catering to a more hardcore audience. The only reason arc raiders succeeded was their casual and pve focus.Marathon needs to be completely redesigned from the ground up and it's too late for that.
>>740981067>community managerYou mean someone who has literally no say on anything or knowledge about the financial situation of the studio? Nice one, OP.
>Made For Trios™Highguard did the same shit. What kind of bullshit studies are managers using to force down this retarded design decision again and again?A sweaty polyamorous stack inside a large team is dangerous but they will not run lobbies while the same clique will absolutely destroy small teams via coordination alone. It has to be self-sabotage at this point.
>>741004740If they extended the FW for the rest of the season they would have held onto >20k.
>Still, Ruppert claimed that Marathon was "actually performing within expected perimeters. At least from the convos I was there for. Marathon scratches a small but VERY loyal niche. And it's doing a good job at it. Marathon has a beyond killer team."Were the "expected perimeters" that it will underperform on launch, but still sustainable? I can't see this being said about the game if it truly failed on a colossal scale.Even then, blastful news for the Marafriends.
I tried a round of Marathon today on family share.It feels okay to play but I feel absolutely 0 compulsion to do a second round. I just cannot be fucking bothered. I just can't.And I don't like the aesthetics, and the total unreadability of what items even are at a glance is bewildering.
>>741004093>doebeit firewalk shat this out 10 days before they launched their masterpiece
>>741004834I think it suffered from the veilguard endless rework treatment with the last iteration being a rushed apexjob under the current director.
>>741004834>The first rain map is the coolest map they've madeAre you talking about Outpost?
>>741005094Play it while it gives you the baby mode - that's the game at its peak. After level 10 or so drop it when the bloodbath lobbies roll in.
>"...but if Marathon is considered a failed project — which it is not at this time..."It did not claim a success, it claimed that it was just "not failure". Shills are so desperate to have a victory that this is what they go with now.This game is fucking dead.
>>741004937>Highguard did the same shit.That's a really dumb thing to say. Trios in a 2 team hero shooter and trios in an extraction shooter have completely different implications for the gameplay. Both were bad for their respective games, but one was too little per team, and the other - too much.
>>741005181If the ghost town servers are the peak then I would rather play PvE Tarkov.Oh also Marathon definitely runs worse than it should from looking at it. Maxed out 1440p shouldn't be dropping so many frames on a 9070 XT when you look at wider areas.
>>740983476marathon has as many players as fallout 76 lmao
>>740993879>you know ark raiders is at 24k right? the game all of you faggots kept comparing it to when D2 was at 9k playersyou realize arc raiders sold over 16 million copies with a budget of 100 million and far fewer devs? arc is funded for 10 years at this point, in fact made so much money embark is working on two new games. marathon can barely crack 2 million with a budget of 250+ milion. destiny 2 in fact could not survive and that is why it is getting shut down, it kept losing money.
>>741005141It can rain on any map, other than Cryo Archive. I assume he means Perimeter, and it happened to be raining while he was playing.
>>741004994are you that fucking retarded, truly? Especially taking the word of a COMMUNITY MANAGER who would be privy to absolutely zero important conversations happening behind closed doors.It's all corpo speak. In what sense of the word is a $250 million dollar investment barely selling a million copies across several platforms at launch "performing within expected perimeters" ???Ruppert is trying her absolute best to remain relevant by saying next to nothing of substance and not bad mouthing her previous employer.
leave the game running in the background
>>741005573I don't like inflating my playtime.
>>741005452did you not read xer 2nd paragraph
>>741005573This. CCU helps Bungie.
>>740998986I would probably like it if it was any other game. I cannot think of a more pointless genre than extraction shooter, or maybe marathon is just uniquely pointless in its design. Grinding towards nothing is not a fun hook, literally just play any other PVP game.
>>741004834its so obviously catered to pvp and esports type of game. the maps are too small to properly explore because youre forced into constant pvp fights. look at other extraction shooters, you can avoid fights and really dig into a map. in marathon, you 10 feet away from some guy ready to blast your head off.
Both sides can be right, of course the game is a massive flop but only if you see it as how much money it has madeWhat Bungie really cares and where the game has been successful is in owning the chuds, it’s pride month, a very progressive company like Bungie and Sony are completely satisfied by the amount of chuds owned that this game has produced, it helps their reputation as a woke company and earns them social justice credit
>>741005141>>741005384It always rained when I played so I assumed the baby version of Perimeter always had rain. I'd like to add that the shell designs are pretty great and I like that there's a lot of them to choose from at launch, with the coolest being Rook for me. Sentinel should've been a girl to even out the roster.>>741005746I think this is it, too fight focused, which is a shame cause the PvE enemies actually provide a decent challenge when fought in a pack.
i think Concord would have more CCU on Steam if they didn't shut the game down
>>741005805people be saying anything nowadays
>>741005776Rook isn't a part of the team, so whether the season 2 shell would be male or female was a coin toss. I assume that the season 3 shell will be female.>cause the PvE enemies actually provide a decent challenge when fought in a pack.They can provide challenge, but they alone aren't enough for a good PvE experience. This can be easily felt by queueing into Sponsored Survival with crew fill off.
>>740981220A dead, maligned and self sabotaged game in Destiny 2 just pulled a million unique accounts logging in on June 10th; with nearly 400k playing concurrently as per Popularity Report. Never doubt in beaten wives crawling back, they always will.
>>741006087some gay redditor rally means fuckall, destiny 2 was a financial disaster for several years straight while sucking half a billion dollars
>>740990954>DON'T: Avoid talking about destiny 3ok, so they want their influencers talking about destiny 3 as much as possible
>>741005931>I assume that the season 3 shell will be female.They already have two options, I wonder if they'll use one of them>the white skinned one from promo material>a female shell that was shown in concept art (I think it was an old Recon concept?)
>>740981067Yes, yes! Keep D2 forgotten, Marathon will surely save you!
>>741006547>Keep D2 forgottenwe all do
>>741005931>but they alone aren't enough for a good PvE experienceIt's also true, even the commanders are jobbers. They need proper bossfights, or something like a zone with the best loot being controlled by a rogue AI messing with the players by deploying traps and turrets.
>>740981067>Liana RuppertFUCKING...!She lied about "BioWare talking to the modding community" leading up to Legendary Edition to the point where it triggered an inquiry from all the biggest guys in the modding scene with EA and BioWare which actually got the boots off the ground. Her "insider" knowledge was chatting with a BioWare employee on Tumblr when installing her clothing mods, who said he had talked to other modders on Tumblr.Then people pointed out she was bullshitting all of us and instead of making concessions she started writing tweets about being "attacked by men". She's played the trilogy over 100 times. I have replayed it too, and modded it, and I'm a huge fan, but playing it that much you're honestly just a fucking loser LOL
>>741006632I like the rocket drone they added, but making it spawn only at the very end means it barely matters. Also its loot pool is dogshit for the effort it takes to kill.
>>741006743it barely matters my ass, it can fuck you up pretty good, block an exfil and break a siege in places like algae ponds
>>741006632>something like a zone with the best loot being controlled by a rogue AI messing with the players by deploying traps and turretsThere is room for that, too. Obviously, Durandal is an options, but there also are the 8 colony AIs out of which only 2 are confirmed dead. Darius is even still around on Night Marsh, jumpscaring you if you pass near a turned off screen.
>>741006353>some gay redditor rally means fuckall, destiny 2 was a financial disaster for several years straight while sucking half a billion dollarsmarathon is about to be the same too unless bungie massively downsize to 100 devs.
>>741006743The convoy being a literal static box meat shield that doesn't fire back is really disappointing. They should change it for something like the Helldivers 2 convoys with an actual miniboss.
>>740995964>>is the most popular and liked thing in the game by farsource: drugs and heavy drinking
OHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
>>741007032The source is the queue times.Essentially instant.Pretty much every other map, I'm waiting for longer than Tarkov matches. Which was the reason why I stopped playing that after it's launch.
>>740989589Not a zoomer, this hasn't been a problem until recently. In fact it's entirely why I bring it up in the first place because when Australian servers stop becoming populated it's often the canary in the coal mine. The sign that the game is done.
>>740981067we won marathonsisters!
>>741007216no, the source is your ass, queue times are extremely fast for any mode, but sponsored perimeter survival is the least popular mode because it's a shit mode with little loot to obtain, unlike sponsored night marsh which was used just for free gold loot >Pretty much every other map, I'm waiting for longer than Tarkov matchesshow playtime
>>741007216you are so full of shitthe most popular queues are outpost and cryo
Imagine loosing players during a weekend.
>>740986658>remove hero shooter shitthis will make the solo experience less awful and boost MTX revenue (skins no longer need to fit characters like george droid and can be literally anything)>cryo is no longer a super duper endgame, only slightly more difficult than outpostif you're only launching with 4 fucking maps, don't dedicate one of them to streamers>compiler is no longer a raid boss. compilers can now appear on other maps as regular (tough) enemies via rare eventslikewise, when all you've got is shitty plastic bot enemies, don't restrict the one interesting enemy to 1% of the playerbase>add traditional modern day weapons, reskin the entire tau ceti colony into a more traditional sci-fi colonythis is the main blocker to success. FPS players across the board don't want to play a game that looks like Marathon.the plastic weapons can stick around as cheap freekit tools. it can make sense lorewise - the colony ship left hundreds of years ago, in the centuries since Earth has ran out of resources and has resorted to cheap plastic tools, which is the reason why the tau ceti colony is so worth scavenging.>resign once the pencil pushers tell me you can't just redo the game's entire art style
>>740993976That doesn't mean in any fucking way that Destiny was never profitable you dumb fucking faggot.
>>741008195It’s World Cup chud
>>741004865Nice PR statement.
>>741008195>loosingbrown
>>740981067>People paid to lie about the game, insist the game is doing fine...Heyyyyyyyyyy! Wait a minute!
>>741006353D2 only cost about 5 mil a month to run and had a dev team of less than 200 people. It was Marathon's development that drained all their money.
>>740995970Myes. :>
Lads I don't think I can run cryo with randos
Real monkeys paw moment for me when I learned we're getting a new Marathon game. Aleph One was basically all I could run on the crap tier mac I think we picked up from a school board auction, so I was really excited to play a game like that in a modern engine. Makes no sense why they'd use a series name that nobody has thought of in 20 years aside from Halo easter eggs for their zoomer targeted game with nothing to do with the original. Nobody is getting excited about a game just because its got Marathon on the box in 2026, and it just shoots them in the foot if they ever want to use the property for a hail mary Halo style game in the future.
>>741008993It's possible. I got lucky last season and got a chance to kill the Compiler, but decided to just grab the vault 2 subroutine instead. Didn't feel right.
Marathon shouldn't be expected to pull in big numbers. That's an accurate statement, it's in a niche genre that already has some soild longstanding competition (hardcore extraction shooter).Saying Marathon shouldn't be on par with Destiny in terms of profit makes sense to sayBut by saying this, they're really opening themselves up to the "why". Why did they pull so many devs off of their stronger IP for this? Why did they spend so much money and time on this?If it wasn't money and if it wasn't playerbase and if it wasn't because it was a strong concept then why the FUCK did you waste your time on it? Just admitting your complete incompetence and washing your hands of it by saying your nearly 4 billion dollars worth of investment wasn't supposed to actually make that much? are you all on crack?
>>741010116Maybe because Sony didn't greenlight Destiny 3?
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>>741006702>She's played the trilogy over 100 times. I have replayed it too, and modded it, and I'm a huge fan, but playing it that much you're honestly just a fucking loser LOLYou don't... actually believe that, do you? You're not actually that retarded, right?
>>741010116It's because all this "marathon was always supposed to be a smaller game with a smaller player base" is absolute bullshit. >>741010368So because you don't get to make the next installment of your money maker you kneecap your current money maker to dump everything into a game you don't expect to be a money maker? That doesn't even begin to make sense retard. If Bungie didn't think Marathon was going to be able to replace D2 they wouldn't have gutted D2 the way they did. That would reinforce the idea that they had to keep D2 as alive as possible.
I just want a team of HUMANS with MICROPHONES to try some Cryo vaults with.Discord kitten dens demand poopsockers that have already maxed out everything.
>>741010116Truth of the matter is that Bungie never, ever intended to make a niche game. Marathon was always intended to be the game that blew the hinges off the extraction genre and introduced it to the masses. That's what the devs were telling people in pre-launch interviews when asked why make an extraction shooter - they said they loved extraction games (they saw tarkov was making money) and wanted to introduce it to people who are turned off by it (casualize it for consolefags).Was it expected to be as big as Destiny? Maybe not quite the same size, but certainly big regardless. What didn't help was the game going through development hell, ballooning the budget, and also Destiny itself dying.
>>741010836/vg/
>>741010116>>741012379ME 1 came out in 2007. That means every single year since 2007, she's played ME 1 five to six times.ME 2 came out in 2010. So every year she would have had to play ME 2 six to seven times. Which means 11 to 13 ME completions EVERY YEAR from 2010 to do both games.ME 3 came out in 2012. Which is seven to eight completions every single year. Totalling up to 18-to-21 Mass Effect games completed every goddamn year until 2026. Thats roughly starting up and completing a new ME game every 3 weeks. Doing a fully trilogy run every 9 weeks. Every year for 14 years. And thats just to reach the base minimum of 100 completions.Its such an obvious lie to anyone with even the hint of a brain.
>>741012379>Marathon was always intended to be the game that blew the hinges off the extraction genre and introduced it to the masses. That's what the devs were telling people in pre-launch interviews when asked why make an extraction shooterGot source on that?I find it incredibly difficult to believe it because you basically need to watch 30 minutes guides to navigate 2 of the 4 maps in Marathon. It was never meant for the casuals.
>>741012640https://youtu.be/eGvZtFJARaM?si=mCQBlGGCSyoHIS76&t=876https://www.youtube.com/live/t3ZO8tbmCvc?si=QtRD-dJMJDRrc1mg&t=7670here's two i remember
>>740981067>The only way to keep bungie alivehuh?I was told they were doing just fine, why do they need *my* help?
>>741013041Thanks, that's actually very insightful.
>>740981220Time to fabricate another defamation post regarding Marathon. Ignore that we said it's failing horribly, we must make stuff up about it! GRRRRR!We have spread things such as $1,7B loss, 500k refunds, fake paid shill Discord server... what should we do next?
>>741005748you need help anon
Hold strong marathoners, soon we will hit 500k Discord users!
>>740983476Apologize and kneel and I may yet forgive your pathetic existence
>>740984883It's been confirmed by marathon devs that PC represents 70-80% of the population. But I'm sure your "trust me bro" stat is much more accurate, thanks for setting the record straight
>>741015096source?
>>741015212Bungie
>>741015212Here's ya "source"
>>741014606>we haveThere is no 'we,' you retarded tourist. Strawmanning these bullshit claims that no anon has made only shine a brighter light on Marathon's actual performance, which is terrible. So thanks I guess, for helping shill against the game.>>741015212Two separate sources that corroborated each other:>two analytics firms (Alinea and some other), plus the general sales estimates tool on SteamDB>Tassi talking to his insiders at Bungie
>>741015650Those sources aren't good enough, these retards only believe the mainstream media outlet with the correct letter next to their name
Jesus, the same shill is still samefagging over 3 months later KEK
>>741015096>PC represents 70-80% of the populationI wonder if this has changed since that information was published.
>>740998839I thought those achievement stats looked really bad (only 6 of 10 players ever exfil successfully more than 7 times?), so I went and checked.>they're even worseNo doubt the influx of free players counted toward the stats, but let's think about how dire this is for your lead platform:>38% of players don't have regular successful extractions>40% of players don't even finish more than 20 runs>48% of players don't get more than 14 PVP kills>49% of players barely engage with the PVEYou know what this tells me? All Marathon has is this tiny core audience of maybe 20k people worldwide, they've been there since launch, and they're not growing. No way those people, even if they buy MTX, can sustain this flop. None whatsoever.
>>741015780Cry about it.
>>741015805maybe there is a reason Bungie isn't exposing player activity through their API like they have done with every single other game they've produced.
>>741015864Cry about it
>>741015864Why do you spend all day, every day relentlessly shilling a game you know is a failure
>>741015812Where did you get those stats from? I just took a screenshot of my achievements screen.
>>740981067>was never designed to do successful numbers>i-it's still doing fine
>>741015776If you're expecting Bungie or Sony to come out and straight say 'here are the numbers,' you're retarded, because no company does that unless the numbers are really good.But when you step back and look at every data point we can see as losers on the public internet, the picture becomes pretty clear>Marathon didn't do well on console top seller charts, but did manage to spike to #2 on Steam's Top Seller Chart for a brief period during launch>therefore, we can conclude it did better on PC than console (even PS5 where it had home field advantage)>anecdotal posts from the Marathon Steam forums continually showed how the game was dead outside of North America, which suggests little to no interest in those markets>achievement stats show limited engagement from a small audience>sales performance is so bad Bungie is pulling out all the stops with this f2p week, PVE 'experiment' patches they said they wouldn't do, and other shitAnd so on. And to my knowledge, Tassi has never been proven wrong in his claims, but he does have a 5-10% margin of error on his numbers.Your turn.
>>741015992picrel
>>741015993I just went to the Steam store page for Marathon in my web browser a minute ago.
>>741015812where did you even get this from
>>741016027https://popularity.report/Here are the destiny numbers, exposed through the official Bungie API. Bungie publishes a JSON after every activity completion that can be downloaded and parsed for these stats. This does not include people just logging in to check shit in the tower or eververseThey did the same with Destiny 1 and Halo. Sorry that activity APIs weren't common in the mid-90s when the original Marathon came out>yOuR tUrNretard
>>741015992The izzat of all his family is at stake
>>741016058That's interesting. I just checked and those numbers are the same for me. Yet the "global achievements" screen shows different numbers.
>>741016027>>741016154Also I read your reply weird because you didn't understand the obvious sarcasm of my post implying that these retards only listen to fox news. I'm agreeing with you that the PC pop is 70-80% of the playerbase
>>741015212Marathon is currently 109th on Xbox's most played games. The way it's calculated is total time played over the last 7 days, so most of that even includes the F2P week. There's no reason to believe the game is popular among consolefags.
>>740999040Blasttholicism
>>740983476I feel like you're telling me to buy Skyrim.
>>741015780this implies that you either spent so much time in the last 3 months on marathon threads that you recognize a samefagger, or that you haven't taken any medications and think that it's all the same personboth are hilarious
>>740999040Transhumanism.
>>741015992Because they've aligned with it ideologically (chuds hate game, I hate chuds, therefore I must support game), and admitting it failed would be admitting their own ideology is failing, which would be too injurious to their psyche.They're a very good personification of the 'Huge fan excited to play (game) for the first time.' meme.
>>741017078But I'm a chud and I love Marathon.
fuck you, die
>>741017153Sorry anon, according to the terminally online retards who haven't started a game up in years, only troons play Marathon, and it's some culture war bullshit and such.
>>741017078This lmao. They're unironically calling anyone wanting D3 'right wing grifters' now
>>741017078Bungie has employed PhD psychologists since 2001 to make their games more addictive and warp the narrative around their games perception in the general population. >>741016036this thing is used as a meme but they poured millions of dollars over the years into developing players addictions to their products so it's no wonder the cult members have such a visceral reaction to valid criticism of their chosen product. it's similar to people worshipping celebrities, CEOs, politicians, etc.
>>741017153No, you're not.
>>741017078>They're a very good personification of the 'Huge fan excited to play (game) for the first time.' meme.I need to spend more time online I swear
>>741017078Some people are, but I've personally never played a Bungie game before Marathon. I have no loyalty to them, I just like this particular game.
>>740981067>but if Marathon is considered a failed project — which it is not at this time>not at this timeAh, good old PR speak. What's sad is how many people will actually fall for it and think this nothing response means Marathon is in any way considered a success.
>>741000312I will stop you right there, most people don't give a shit, they don't care about the devs, a good game (with good marketing) will sell because it's good, a bad game will die unless it's extremely cheap.
10. YEAR. PLAN.
>>741017153>>741017283There are a few anons who genuinely enjoy Marathon, but you know what? They're not the SSRI-addled losers who post retarded tourist shit like 'chuds lost' trying to defend the game. >>741017301Well, Tassi went from 'normal guy who likes Destiny' to 'right wing chud grifter on par with Grummz' after he dared to point out that Marathon was flopping, lol.>>741017985Go play Myth, Myth II, and Oni, anon. They're the OG Bungie games before Bungie blew up with Halo.
>>741018016>>but if Marathon is considered a failed project — which it is not at this timeThis is just an outright lie. Bungie has 800 employees. Marathon is now their only game. The game has sold 1.5-2 million copies at best and they get 15-20k concurrent player peaks at best. Those numbers are FAR from enough to be able to even pay half of the wages of 800 employees in Bellevue, Washington where the average wage is $98k/year.Bungie as a company is unironically about to be completely gutted. I wouldn't be surprised if there's only going to be like 200-300 people left, and even then I don't know if Marathon can sustain those numbers either.
>>741018786More staff doesn't mean the company is running better. The opposite is generally true.
It wasn‘t supposed to make money anyway. How can it be a flop?
>>740981067Nobody who is doing well is going to say>afloat when talking about their finances. It shouldn't even be part of your lexicon. Halo 1-3 didn't keep them afloat, d2 didn't keep them afloat. They were flying high and now that the plane ran out of fuel, the ones that are left are in life jackets and eating seat belts. The flares and radio didn't work so they're just waiting for the end now
>>740991265Former art directorHe left lol
>>741019189>this game we spent $300m or more to make isn't supposed to make moneyu wot>>741019245No shit he left. I would've sued them for making me take the blame for the art scandal and then sending me out to get humiliated for an hour on that disaster of a live stream. Yeah I know as the art lead that the buck stops with him for art stuff, but it's not like he was putting the stolen shit in the game himself. It was probably some diversity hire junior artist who had no idea what the fuck he was doing.
>>740981067nice gaslighting
>>741018786At this point, layoffs would be only logical since Destiny 2 isn't being developed anymore and there isn't a Destiny 3 in the works.
>>740981067>but if Marathon is considered a failed project — which it is not at this time>at this timeeven the most generous metrics have painted this as a failure to the point that every player needed to whale something like ~10k just to break even. Companies really need to realize that going all in on these several hundred million dollar titles and 8 years of dev time is basically gambling suicide. Ive almost exclusively been playing ps2 games for the last 2 years. The amount of AA titles on it that are fun and interesting are insane and im willing to bat for the ps2 all day any day. But the AA market basically doesnt exist anymore. Nobody will take chances on a title that could do ok, maybe lose a few mill but nothing horrific, be a breakout game out of nowhere, or have a decent but very dedicated fanbase, but theyre willing to dump literally everything into games that have less content than 20 year old games and shutter companies when it doesnt become the next infinite money printer. It literally does not make sense to me. Ive never played destiny because by the time it came out bungie had already lost my goodwill but seeing how destiny players were treated and the game itself was raped and gaped at every turn, i was right to stay the fuck away from it. To drop something as anemic as marathon and it even cost money is fucking absurd. i honestly dont think that its unfair for people to want to see bungie dissolved. i would pay a lot of money to have the cctv footage of bungie hq when slay the spire 2 completely and utterly shit on marathon by almost 6x.
if the game dies bungie and sony lose moneyif the game stays alive bungie and sony also lose money its a win/win for chuds
>literally "i-its not a flop because it just isn't ok!"lolwe know the sales numberswe know the player counts we know the budget it's a huge fucking flop but have fun blatantly lying to investors I'm sure that will work out in the end
>>741004865>marathon need to make it another year before it will get a meaningful content updatereally? and you are just going to beg for destiny 2 players to buy it and play it for the potential that destiny 3 will get greenlit?
Congratulations to the Destiny playerbase for being the most cucked community in all of gamingYour game, and the company that makes it, thinks you're an absolute idiotAND GUESS WHAT? THEY'RE RIGHTEven RIOT treats their players better than this shit
>>741022970sony is very well known for leaving up projects that drain money
I'm not interested in paying for shitty studio welfare.
>hundreds of millions away from making a profit>not a flop
>>740984883Damn did you buy that update? I mean 300k people and did any of them buy anything? Lemme know bro
>>740981067This game looks so stupid.
>>741025035Says who? You? You're in on the Sony budget? Enlighten us, please.
>>741027019it's simple math little jeetoid
>>740983476>destiny2what happened? why'd it get such a huge player boost?
>>741019434>spoilercope retard, he was following the same troon on twitter the art got stolen fromhe 100% knew about the assets
>>741027019From sony themselves. two thousand seven hundered fucking people worked on this game. Sony said it needed to be a top 5 game for the entrire rest of the year to be a success. The budget is AAAA class. Every analytics company and market research company says the same thing. They're in a quarter billion dollar or so hole, and losing money every month.Even if the estimates are off by 100 percent, this sack of shit is STILL losing money.>>741026302From the rev figures, not really. Low ends are dropping below 8k now.
>>741024370Hold up. They worse than WEG patreon kekes?>>741024389They kept that demolition derby game with the fat grubhub dancers up for years at a loss.
>>741027019>Paul Tassi (Forbes): "I can confirm Marathon's budget is over $200m. Likely over $250m. This does not include ongoing costs for maintenance or new content" >1.5m sales at $40 >$60mSo, even at the highest estimated sales they have, and considering every single copy as a full sale and not discounted, not including refunds or give aways, NOT including the storefront tax of 30% that STILL leaves you at just under 200 MILLION dollars in the red. And dont forget thats the budget not including ongoing maintenance and marketing and what notthey will literally never make a single cent of profit from this game
>>741019434He's a pro who KNOWS the art that they stole shit from. And a big chunk of his entire goddam job is making sure you have tracable rights to everything you fucking use. It's the entire justification for having an art department and art management department that big in the first place. They have about a dozen full time managers. The company spends millions of dolars a year JUST to avoid this situation . The only unfairness is that the rest of the mangment teams isn't there in the background ready to committ seppuku, like you'd see in a japanese apology.
>>741018340>There are a few anons who genuinely enjoy Marathon, but you know what? They're not the SSRI-addled losers who post retarded tourist shit like 'chuds lost' trying to defend the game.As far as I can tell, the people who like the game really, and I mean REALLY fucking like rape.
>>741010836Why the fuck did you buy the game if you didn't have a team? Waste of fucking money.
>>741008993Wait a bit for things to calm down and your cradle to catch up. >>741009756I don't think you understand how bad it its. We started seeing trios with gold shiedls and weapons before cryo openend. It was a complete shitfest day one.
>>741028638because fill is fine if you're nopt some offputting turbo spergyou dopey friend needing co-dependent needy homo
>>741028638>t. one of the retarded spanglish retards constantly shouting at people to push every single engagement regardless of if it makes sense or not, then gets knocked and calls his teammates trash while crying to get rivived
>>741028157>Sony is keeping a money sink up because... they just do, okay?
why do western companies make ugly designs when male gamers want to see pretty females?do they understand why gacha games succeed? it's not the gameplay except in rare cases (wuwa has good combat too).
>>741029259>do they understand why gacha games succeed?They hook the cattle with boobs and trap them with gambling.
>>741029259Marxist subversion in education has created generations of buck broken drones that have been indoctrinated to think male and female are some abstract theory and that niggers are amazing because of darker skin colourIn the rest of the world marxists are executed violently. This is why china dominates the global economy.
>>741028897>>741029093This isn't season one. We have all gold misra trios pushing your spawn under 2 mins from day fucking one of cryo this time. And during the low periods, as the game is below 8k steam pop, you're starting to get the same dumb fill ins more than once. Of course, if you are so shit that you are getting CARRIED by these retards, you wouldn't notice.
>>741029256They're keeping it up out of the fear of loss of reputation, and because they don't have anything better for these fucks to work on yet. Mass layoffs are coming to bungie.
>>741029259>why do western companies make ugly designsIt's mandated up from top, plus, usually the very own companies have fired anyone who would pose the most minuscule opposition to these things.As a rule of thumb, there's probably a 32/1 ratio of rabbid leftists to sane individuals at any old studio.
>>741030104>As a rule of thumb, there's probably a 32/1 ratio of rabbid leftists to sane individuals at any old studio.This is probably the most extreme case other than ubisoft here. A big reason why the budget is so high is that they metooed the designer that didn't hate casuals and love ape so much, and the turmoil threw production into chaos.
>>740981067I'm not gonna get blackmailled into supporting a game I don't plan on playing to save a studio that got itself into this mess by itself.
I wonder how long until Sony just tells Bungie to abandon Marathon go back to D2Hell I bet they are already planning how to but don't want to scare away potential buyers
>>741030261>has delusions about getting blackmailed>tranime meme attachedanon...
>>741029901Because the games player base is almost entirely US east coast. There is no one at all playing in other regions and that's a huge problem that they cannot fix because the game does not appeal to Europe or Asia at all in any way. It's explicitly US troon coded
>>741027860It's common for people in creative fields to follow others in the same field if they like their work. There is nothing strange about this at all, and you'd know this if you ever had a job in a creative field. I'd put money down on this being what happened:>art director has idea for art style of the game>starts collecting reference material>finds an artist that just does this same style by coincidence>cool, I'll follow that artist and add their work to our reference material pool>time to make art assets for the game>hey guys, make assets like the ones in the reference material folder>junior/diversity hire artist is a retard and/or lazy and just uses assets directly from the reference material pool>assets get recognized in game>shitstorm ensues>art director gets the blame, gets sackedEvery game ever made has reference materials collected and used like this.
>>741030340That's not going to happen. Sony greenlighting Destiny 3 is much, much more probable than that, and that's very unlikely.
>>741030457I'm Russian and I see other Russian players relatively often. Played with some brits, too, once.
I had lunch with a game dev friend at a big AAA today, and asked why they thought the western game dev scene is so shit>Said HR constantly hires the same troons to score DEI points>Flops keep piling so the studio tends to get even more restrictive with hiring>Won't let fresh ideas/blood on Extraction Shooter no.9471998 because dev gets riskier with every shipped flop>But can't stop hiring devs behind flops to justify the seat going to someone with "experience">90% of studios making games with large pools of Concord/Highguard/Veilguard devs>Covers HR's asses when flop happens, because they hired the "experienced" fit>Cover's leads asses when flop happens, because "The vision was on-point, HR just fed us shitty ICs that fucked up their last projects!"Thank fuck for asian work culture. We'd never get anything decent today without it.
>>741030340>>741030620If you're Sony, do you trust these fucks with a half billion dollars of development? I think if they were going to go D3, they'd have at least mentioned it before going into maintainance for D2.
>>741030705And you live in the US/Western Europe LAMO
>>740981067>Their value (Bungie) isn't SOLELY in Marathon>just ditched Destiny 2>Marathon is their only current game>no other projects currently being worked onUm..ok..good I guess. Keep winning...>>740983476>f2p week ended>numbers back in the toiletYes, they're clearly winning...
>Destiny 2 is too large of spaghetti and tech debt to maintain by a smaller team>Ending Destiny 2 allows them to layoff half of the studio and focus on Marathon insteadThat's the end goal here. Shrink the studio, make it more efficient to run while Sony bleeds money.
>>741030476However, the millions of dollars a year spent on management is there to avoid this shit.>>741030842They had maybe a 30k boost from ftp, and lost 25k of that by the last day peak, still in the ftp period. It's clearly not price. The more people play, the less they like it for most people.
>>741030476I don't believe it simply because this isn't the first time Bungie has stolen art.
>>741030719>thing, japan
>>741030831No, I live in Volzhskiy.
>>741031219Japanese trannies are far, FAR superior to western ones. You might as well compare Toyota to Dodge here.
>>741030719Your friend is a they?
>>741031336You have my condolences.
>>741031219japan wasn't mentioned dipshit
>>741030719>Thank fuck for asian work cultureYeah, I sure love gatcha #48190 with identical UI layout to gatch #35028 to minimize player friction to spending money on banner pulls so the game can then auto-play itself from there.
>>741029828why is it a western thing specifically? asia is a hot female design factory, while the west insists on shit like this.who asked for this?
>>741031418It could be worse. As in there is a worse place to live in just 5 km south.
>>740981067Bungie needs our help, brothersisters!
>>741031481>anon was clearly talking about the Indonesian gaming scene dipshit
>>741031484As opposed to what? Generic action shooter with uncanny valley characters?
>>741031574>the only two countries in asia making games are japan and indonesia
>>741031524Didn't they have the olympics there? Don't mind me. :I'm a yank with no sense of direction.>>741031517There's plenty of GDC lectures on this exact topic. See also the blizzard diversity matrix.
>>741031574You shitposted and go told. Take the L.
>>741031484>Every eastern game is gachaEven if that wasn't bullshit, I'd take it over anything from the Woke West
>>740981067>ex-dev>former community managerWhat, is Karen from HR also a developer?
>>741031481doebeit there are like 3 countries in Asia with the technology to make games
>>741030991>>741031159It's hard to understand unless you've worked on large team projects, but it's really easy for stuff to accidentally slip through. And with something like art assets, you would have to go through every single texture in the game and compare it to every single item in the reference material folder. Even if you hired a bunch of interns it would still take a month and you couldn't be adding or changing anything to those groups of content. But I do agree that Bungie needs to tighten up their processes or pay for a fucking AI tool to do those reference vs. what's in the game comparisons at this point.
Arc Raiders keeps flopping while Marathon keeps winning!The MDS group should be proud of what they achieved.
>>740981067I don't recall ever playing this genre of videogame.I very much doubt I ever will.
>>741034170>MDS groupWho?
>>740981067dead by 2027
>>741033231Accident, sloppy work, or some shitter, I get why it happens. But this is supposed to be the top flight, highest paid, highest prestige shop in the world. I wonder how much worse the problem is at Ubisoft, which had 20 thousand fuckers, maybe 5k of them indians. I remember them putting recreationist banners in their art book, and then fucking selling it, which would only be possible if not a single person in the chain there was literate at all in Japanese.
>>741029256>>Sony is keeping a money sink up because... they just do, okay?It's only been up since what, march? They're losing at least 6 million a month, so just letting them try again at S2 isn't THAT expensive, in the overall. Sony budget. Worth it to try a little Free to Play. But they just tried it and it fucking bombed again.
>>741031159Every other year they caught stealing art, promising it was a mistake, and punishment has been dealt then do it again.
>>741035319>top flight, highest paid, highest prestigeTop paid is probably only true for studios in San Fran or parts of Cali (which are more expensive than Seattle), but you're right that Bungie was top flight and highest prestige - once upon a time. >I wonder how much worse it is at UbisoftIt's probably just as bad at any AAA company, the only difference is most anons are more aware of it happening to Bungie because it was in the news a lot. The larger and more bloated these games get, the more chances of this stuff happening. Like with the broken Torii gate scandal Ubisoft had with ACS, an actual Japanese person who saw that thing would've said 'what the fuck are you doing?,' but because it's just Frenchman and saars, nobody knew or thought to speak up.
>>740984883>Well actually theres hundreds of thousands of invisible players on the platform who's playerbase ISN'T public!>Yes I'm aware that by all the statistics the game looks like it has a completely dead playerbase>But luckily everywhere that you can't see or prove the numbers, there's actually a secret thriving community that totally disproves all the real, actual numbers that we can see!That's right CHUDS! You can't DISPROVE the secret console playerbase of millions! Ergo, IT EXISTS!
>>741037340Ubi literally has a team of people who's entire job it is to prevent shit like that, cultural sensitivity readers. It's what SBI said they did for their clients. They have like a half dozen people listed in the credits, one who is a literal professor of japanese history in the ivy league. I'm still astounded that they managed to fuck up so many times.
>>741037569Like I said, the larger and more complex a project, the more chances and places for things to go wrong, even if you ignore Ubi's internal dysfunction and 'twenty teams in twenty different cities work on the same game' development model.
>>740981067But the thing is, I don't need Bungie to stay alive.The welfare of company #1337 is out of my control. It's like caring about if Red Lobster stays in business or not.
>>741037989That still doesn't justify their fuckup which is what anon's been trying to say.
>>740989265>Like, if you don't want Bungie to keep making more games, then don't buy it.bungie have been artistically bankrupt and screwed over paying customers for years at this point so once they put out a good game i'll probably maybe bite but im not buying in to the bungie cult of personality
>>741038146>bungie have been artistically bankrupt [...] customers for yearsTo me, Marathon seems like the opposite of artistically bankrupt. I sometimes wish they were bit less artistic and toned downed the writing on walls and guns.
>>741038287>bit less artistic and toned downed the writing on walls and gunsthere is nothing original in marathon at all, artically bankrupt = creatively bankrupt lol not just the colors on the screen
>>741038462>says the mentally ill person who spends 16+ hours a day rageposting about things he hatesI unironically respect the trannies who actually worked on this game more than youat least they have a job and are productive memebers of society
>>741027718EoS. Final update dropped like Tuesday.
>>740981220>Huh? Chuddies? Our response?That you need the opinion of strangers to validate your failures says that you are a narcissistic sociopath with the mind of a child. Seriously, is the idea that this makes straight white males (who we know you're referring to with Chud and Incel) mad the only thing that gives your empty and worthless existence any happiness and meaning? Is there no one in your life that loves you, someone who fills the hole where your soul should be instead of self-loathing anger and hatred that you project onto others who retaliate against you, as you are always 100% the aggressors in every situation and who's only goal is to invade, infest, take-away and/or destroy things people care about because that's the only joy you feel as a monster in an NPC skin. I take comfort knowing that you are your kind will die in a cold dark empty room with no one around you, alone, unloved and forgotten with your ashes flushed down the nearest toilet as by then no one will care that you died while I have no doubt there's no one who cares that you're alive now while anyone who has ever said they love you have been lying to you for your entire existence!!!FACT!!!
>>741027718They basically unfucked the mess they did with EoF (fixed progression and loot) and players actually returned to the game, except they also made it the last fucking update like morons. Also another reason was the sheer will to ratio Marathon fags.
>>740982061>Its not my job to buy and support a game i dont want to play. Why do these companies keep thinking we HAVE to support them when they waste money on products we dont want?They make bad products on purpose to have reasons to attack white straight males who they hate and want dead!Companies are held hostage by SJW's who have infested them and everyone is afraid to say something about all of the D.I.E. nonsense shoved into games because they'll be falsly acccused of sexual misconduct, harassment or just bullied out as most of this culture war bullshit is perpetuated by women with Daddy issues and never developed emotionally beyond grade school.That every other fuckin word out of their cock holsters is CHUD and INCEL should tell you everything you need to know about them and their true goal which has NOTHING to do with entertaining people and making money!!!FACT!!!
>>741038658son
>>741038556>ragepostingthere isn't an ounce of rage in any of my posts but your whiney ass maracuck tears are quite delicious
>>740981067Approaching half life 3 levels of cope
My indie games are doing ironman numbers and I don't care anymore
>>740981510amazing how this board will cry about shills until something comes along using the most basic bitch "sex sells" marketability and then they'll do it for free
>>741038737They were ratioing marathon fags on both user count and rev BEFORE this. >>741039182Half life 3 actually might someday be developed. Possbly a soulless sack of trash after Gaben's death.
>>741039330It's the best Kurpa Hosk can do.
>>741039330do anons actually believe that people are paid to argue with them?
>>741039470There are companies that offer that as a service. Said companies were hired for Marathon . They also run the reddits. We've seen job postings in hindi for ubisoft contractors. Why would you expect otherwise?
>>741039050>maracuck>clinging onto a scenario yet to happen for months now (game shutdown)Sure... have fun with your graph line website anon. Have a blast dare I say.
>>741015212Here you go faggot
I wish they just refined the enemy AI from destiny and turned into the Warframe equivalent of an extraction shooter.
>>741039330well yes if the product is appealing people naturally shill it unlike shitathon.
>>740981067>>740981220nothing about the articile shows marathon is suceedingIf anything it's getting killed by the eos'd game
>>741038893I don't speak out of anger, just profound sadness I feel that this is where our culture is, petty squabbling over stupid shit pushed in social media to distract from (((financial crimes))) and not a coincidence that Gamergate happened after the Occupy Wall Street Movement when the (((media))) started skyrocketing hateful rhetoric against white people, white straight males in particular.
>>741039802>anyone who is arguing with me is paid because I don't like the gameWhat level of mental illness is this?
Schedule I chads? looks like the party's over............................
>>741039962>muh mental illness comebackchange your script already you dumb retards
>>741039886They targeted gaming because it's the biggest form of entertainment on the planet, dwarfing everything else, and knew that the majority of gamers were, at the time, predominately white straight males.So social media was used as a weapon to draw in narcissistic sociopaths who crave attention/money/power and aimed at white straight males, using videogames as a proxy to attack them.The truth is that these Keyboard Culture Warriors don't actually care about videogames, movies, tv shows, comics, boardgames etc... it's that white straight males care about them and why it has always been their goal to invade, infest, take-away and/or destroy anything we care about. And the more people care about something the harder they go after it to ruin with deliberate malicious intent then always ask "Why do you care about XYZ soo much?" implying that people shouldn't care when their hobbies and/or interests are being wrecked.This is because SJW's are cowards, so they want to make you think that whatever they've targeted for obliteration was never important in the first place and you should be indifferent instead of angry as they fear retaliation and if they do then they're just called Chuds and Incels because they'll never acknowledge that it it's the willful destruction they've caused that's the problem and you're only mad because you're an ugly virgin and the #1 response they use every single fucking time because they'll never take responsibility for anything.
>>741039570>(game shutdown)Losing a quarter billion dollars, plus millions more every month, being stillborn on launch, and being the undisputed bomb of the year is fine enough for me.
>>741040191These NPC's are relentless and always filled with anger and self-loathing that they want to project onto those they're attacking, who they only want to be as miserable as they are which is the only thing that makes them happy and why they are evil and rotten to the core.This is because of their narcissism and sociopathic psychological profile, as they have a sense of self entitlement and always angry that they aren't getting everything the way they want all the time without working for anything that they think they deserve because they want it.Then any form of retaliation in their demented minds now retroactively justifies what they did first and why they perpetuate a neverending cycle, can't feel empathy and why they don't think they're doing anything wrong, kinda like the Nazi's did!!!FACT!!!
>>741040191Those behind this petty spat between chuds and wokes are laughing right now, because they know they've already won.
>>741040132>Game has a beginning and end>Hurr durr why pypo stop playing?!?!?!The absolute state...
Does marathon even have shills anymore or is it just bored jannies/mods trying to keep the traffic flowing
>>741040295Stale shit we have seen for over a decade now too, called out the jews plenty of times since GG but you are just running interference and not coming up with anything noteworthy.
>>741040454Call them out all you want, they've already won and will keep winning. Things will only get worse for you and there is actually nothing you can do about it.
>>741040429It has to be shills, they're always bumping their threads at the last minute. Jannies should just delete all Marathon threads on sight, nobody actually discusses the game here and it all devolves into politics and ragebait talk.
>>741040504Are you like a psychopath or an unironic mossad agent? can't imagine why you'd be such a pathetic bootlicker otherwise.
>>741040609All bark and no bite, huh goy?
>>741040295>Those behind this petty spat between chuds and wokes are laughing right now, because (((they))) know they've already won.FTFY!!!FACT!!!
I played a few matches of this game earlier, it's still the same as it was, but I guess I'm most salty about getting stomped by nerds stacked on discord
>>741040232>its losing millions more every month because... it just is, ok?
>>741040132>before the f2p week marathon had less players than eternal early access FOTMslop from a year agoGrim
>>741040853Every developer at bungie needs to get paid and the cash shop is fairly empty.
>Company that put all eggs in one basket says the basket is all they haveAlright, nice headline. Not going to read
>>741040853>800 employees with an average salary of 80k>Around 5 million in monthly expenses just to run the company while Marathon is a complete financial failureYeah they are.
>>740981067>ex-dev>community manager
Remind me again, why are the haters still seething about Marathon? It's clear that they lost, just admit it and move on already.
>>741031484Instead of rolling out precanned gacha shitposting you could also recognize that the standard is that low. If you claim those games are bad you are only further digging the hole for mainstream westslop by comparison. Like even if you dismiss everything else about gacha games, their content pipeline alone kills western game development. These are games that release new batches of WORKING content on the fucking dot every other month from release until EoS (this means for the bigger ones new story content, cutscenes, events, locations, characters, qol, etc. etc. etc.). That's the funny bit about the western gaming industry - they all want their trash live service hits and then immediately forgo the part where>live servicedoesn't just mean>collecting that sweet, sweet MTX revenuebut also continuously providing content and fixes. And even the biggest ones, even if they are successful, can't even manage that. Nope, some release barebones buggy games and then go on vacation or do minor updates for half a year or more. But hey, at least the mtx shop is up and running in those early access tier games.
>>741042650They know they are losing the midterms so they have to at least win this one
>>741042650They wasted millions trying to shut down 4chan, and are going into mass layoff mode.
>>741041324Didnt you hear? Sony has "total confidence" in Marathon and will just keep signing blank cheques each month for $7million dollars so it can bleed money for ever to own the chuds...Its going to be shut down just like fairgames and horizion hunters because there is no market for huge budget live service slop right now. they already jacked up PSN prices to cover the billion dollar quarterly loss and they will have to hike prices even more if it gets worse
>>741040853Do people not realize that Bungie is a 600+ developer studio and each developer probably gets paid over $125k since they work in one of the most expensive parts of California?
>>741040853oh silly anon, I'm sure they meant hundreds of billions of dollars
>>740981067>Woman says something about gamingSo she's wrong (of course) and the studio will be gutted UTTERLY if they do what she saysIf they stop being retarded right now, perhaps something can salvaged (it will be worthless anyway)
>but chuddha, what if Marathon shuts down->it wont
>>740984883Nah
>>740986069It's a dead game right now
>>740986069It's already dead. Season 2's F2P week didn't do shit other than MAYBE MAYBE bump it from 11,000 Max CCU daily to 13,000-15,000 but it's declining by 500-1,000/2,000 a day like it was during launch/Season 1.SO: F2P really didn't do shit. People came back/checked it out went "SystemShock"Nah".wav" and bailed.
>>741019434He followed the stolen artist. You can't really spin it. He HAD to know whose texture work was being stolen from and if he didn't that just makes him even more unfit for the job since he didn't know the source(s) were coming from/double-checking before okaying it.But the dude is probably doing Concept Art for Dune 3 (or was) so he's fine in the short term if Hollywood keeps hiring him for concept art.
>>741033231>Even if you hired a bunch of interns it would still take a monthBoo-hoo, Joe Cross. You were the SENIOR ART DIRECTOR. The metaphorical buck STOPS WITH YOU (or did before you left/got fired). YOU ARE THE MANAGER. **YOUR JOB** is to double-check this shit. Don't want to do that? DON'T BE A MANAGER.
>>740981067As expected from a company being controlled by shareholders, they manufacture good news so the stock price go up.Fuck reality, fuck profit, fuck the company even existing or being profitable.Stock price go up.This probably why gamergate was even a thing, people trying to discredit game journos make stocks go down, so they had to protect it by all costs.
>>741046348Classic story of failing upward.
>endgame is still a small group of mic fags doing puzzlesParty games that belong on Nintendo with couch co-op shouldn't be the main focus of your online multiplayer "new Halo"
>>741046550>As expected from a company being controlled by shareholders, they manufacture good news so the stock price go up.not even that, she used to work at Bungie so is trying to put out a fire for her old friends and is assuredly getting flack for this message so it's only a matter of time before her next tweet about not actually having inside knowledge comes out
>already back to end of season 1 numbersPredict monday's peak>11.8k
>>741046187>>741046348rich coming from incels who've never held a job above grocery bagger
>>741047464Tranny redditor kek
