>Game is made with 1% of Ai usage.
If it was any good, you wouldn't be able to recognize it
>>740981229ai is horrible. we are wasting trillions and so many resources and polluting the world for what is basically a glorified search engine and slop video maker. it's the worst thing we have ever created
>>740981816I like it as a research aid and something to throw ideas at. Seems to have a lot of other utility as well like upscaling old games and stuff.
>>740981229Once a dev integrates AI into their workflow, it's never 1%.
>why is there a turd in the cake>it was only used in the designing stages of the cake
Ai convinced my wife to leave me OP. FUCK AI.
>>740981229There's an issue with the selected model (claude-fable-5). It may not exist or you may not have access to it. Run /model to pick a different model.
>>740981229Why are antist like this?Why they hate progress so much?
>>740982209Based AI cucking this anon.
>game used AI placeholders
>>740982282inkcels are self absorbed faggots who feel entitled to money for drawing diaperfur porn all day
>Customers buy my product even though I used AI>Ha, what a bunch of retards>I'm going to see just how much AI I can use before they complain
>>740982101>upscaling old gameslookin good.jpg
>>740983021the faces don't look great sometimes but I've been playing Morrowind with ai upscaled textures after putting in like 70 hours on vanilla graphics and I really prefer it
>>740982282Because AI is crap right now, yet idiots insist on using it.>But it will be good in the future!Who gives a shit, we live in present. Let people develop the tools, but don't try to use them when they aren't anywhere near finished.
>>740981358I've been thinking about getting LTX going but the goddamn redditors which are the source of 99% of information will never say if it rapes your SSD as hard as WAN, since they're either retarded or are on dual 5090's with 128gb of system RAM and still taking 20 minutes to generate a 5 second video because they're incompetent god fucking DAMN IT WHY DO I HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING MYSELF AROUND HERE. I'M TAKING MY BELT OFF AND GOING TO BEAT THE DEVIL OUT OF YOU ANON
>>740983318lol the internet sucked when it first came out too >DON'T INVEST IN IT, DON'T PARTICIPATE IN IT
>>740981229It’s called having principles. Would you be fine with a game being 1% woke? I wouldn’t.
>>740981229AI appeals exclusively to people without souls.
>>740983318AI can make cool stuff you might not even recognize as AI these days, but this kinda application is extremely amateurish and shitty, like what the fuck were they thinking when they made that? It's literally the jeetiest game ever made.
>>740983982You just invested in altavista
>>740984421thats bit racist
>>740981816Speak for yourself I love it. It's great for making concept material so I don't have to waste time with my actual art skills. Then once I have a cool picture or video, I can get to work making the real thing. Just like a shitty cray computer that takes up a whole office floor, the technology needs to be developed, and then a better technology with the old technology in mind gets made. People like you would have had to stop at the fucking pager or PDA. Yes corporations misuse it to do all the things you listed, but they've done worse and nobody has stopped them. Except Luigi but nobody was his Mario.
>>740982101If AI helps you think you might actually be a moron
Complaining about AI usage to makes games is like complaining about the textures being made using photoshop instead of hand painted and devs using an IDE instead if punch cards. It's just plain retarded.
>>740981229>My brain has 1% of AI infoslop.
>>740986012You’re incorrect, and honestly you sound kinda transphobic as well….
AI slop looks like shit. Devs ONLY use it because it’s cheap and easy. So why would anyone praise that? It’s not like it makes the game cheaperIt’s the same as praising Indian coders, they’re only a “good thing” to the cheap cunts paying them. It doesn’t improve the product
I don't support AI whatsoever but I draw a clear distinction between outright AI slop and something that just involved AI at some point of production. People are too fucking kneejerk about the latter and it makes the anti-AI stance seem unhinged.
>>740986092my fellow goyim, i hate indians too
My disdain for AI comes from porn game makers not knowing how to inpaint or use an artist mix
>>740982101Who do you think you're talking to when your "throw ideas" at it?
>>740981358WOW what a ride
>>740981358is this what a shroom trip feels like?
All it's going to take to boil the frog is roll out a couple pokemon generations that undeniably use it. What are they going to do, not buy it?
>>740985883Anon, they're not a fucking luddite, they grew up with plenty of technological advancements. AI is it's own can of worms.>>740987059No, all it'll take is for boomer millennials to be aged out of the market.Once the majority of people paying for video games has grown up in a time where AI was widespread it will forever be a non-issue.
>>740981229it's not even 1% lol>game has like 5 AI texturesITS FUCKING OOOOOOOOOOOVER
>>740985952this is like saying if an encyclopedia helps you think you might actually be a moron
>>740986765like an interactive search engine that gives suggestions and feedback and can approximately answer any question you might have on any subject in ways a search engine cannot do
>>740981229here have some mario ai to cheer you up
>>740981229Only one turd in every batch sarIt's a huge batch and a tiny turdlet, you won't taste it.Please accept this as the norm, do the needful.>>740982282The dystopia sure is progressing.>>740981816Correct.>>740982721Imagine being so bitter about people with talent that you cheer for their downfall.Try improving instead of hating and hoping others drop.Fuck people who applied themselves, that'll teach them.The new A.I. powered dystopia will definitely have your kind at the top and totally won't fuck you over as well.>Tfw I've seen sloppers getting mad that other slop is taking the spotlight away as the flood risesLol, lmao even.>>740984421I can't picture anyone hating artists or cheering for the downfall of human creativity and truth this much unless they truly didn't have a soul.Nothing matters but consumption.
>>740988967Encyclopedias don't poison the water table
>>740987059It most likely will be down to heavily specialized models that can do the job better than artists.The tech is shit now because they're trying to make a super model that does everything.But with improvements in training models in real time an all that, shit will be cash.Mocap will get shot dead, by tech that actually simulate the motion in realtime and deliver specific realistic animations for the current game situation for example.
>>740989184assuming of course the technology isn't outlawed outright as a direct consequence of the bonds market and stock market both collapsing after all of the world's retards and wealthy decided to hedge their bets on LLMs as the key to infinite profit forever, because they all played final fantasy 7 and thought "the promised land" was real and they just had to pollute enough to get to it
>>740989169>getting so btfo in his utility argument he has to switch to a moral onekek
>>740989169I'm not sure what you mean? If you mean ai can be unreliable, that's why you then use other sources to fact check
>>740983876Wait, reading the model or writing the output rapes your SSD? How to mitigate it?
>>740989489As in literally AI datacenters are enormous pollution vectors. There's no metaphor going on here. Did you not know that?
>>740981229Why would you need an AI to make only 1% of a game? What's stopping you from doing that part yourself?
>>740989548I don't know if either of us would be able to opt out of services, technologies, purchases, etc, that contribute to enormous pollution and cruelty. Maybe it would be better if it didn't exist but it won't go away if I don't use it.
>>740989685Those guys torching job-sites and warehouses where datacenters are slated to be built are doing a pretty good job of it. Indiana had a bunch of bullet-holes and bricks through windows after a governor or a mayor or something tried to force all the red tape away from a datacenter being built that nobody wanted there.
>>740989890Can you torch the Olympics next? That's some gay shit.
>>740989371I think it will be just the applecommodore shit all over again and people will just do it locally, with specialized chips.The super computer mainframe IBM nightmare always gets ditched for hardware you own.That could happen naturally, or some really strict rules on AI datacenters will kill it.
>>740989890a pretty good job of eliminating all massive pollution causing industries and all industries reliant on extreme cruelty? Could easily be worth it though if data centres are super harmful to health outcomes in the immediate surroundings.
>>740990065Doing it locally is pretty much mandatorily going to need extensive amounts of RAM and processing power, so not really any different than current requirements. At best I think you'd be looking at more specialized AI cards than even what Nvidia currently pumps out. And even THEN I think that's making the heavy assumption that there's even a market for it outside of some very specific AI-bros and the aforementioned datacenters. AI's gearing up to go through a hellacious crash even worse than the Dot Com bubble, so bad it'll probably take the current US economy with it just by association, but hey you'll be able to pick through the ashes and get a lot of RAM for cheap.
>>740989548>As in literally AI datacenters are enormous pollution vectors.Bullshit FUD invented by commie lefty luddites. They are very, very minimal pollution vectors.
>>740990256Chaining together boogeymen like Harry Potter spells to cast Greater Bootlicking
>>740989084i'm luigi mamma mia
>>740990292Your dumbass probably think nuclear power plants and enormous pollution vectors too.
>>740990292your favorite artists are going to violently kill themselves in the coming years. how does that make you feel?
>>740981229Ai is only acceptable as user made things and memes because the point of it is everyone can use it and it completely disregards all content it was trained on imagine paying for a product that unironically uses pepes and wojaks and paying 70 plus tip for it
>>740990424Makes me feel like all the AI luddite rhetoric is a shitty rebadge of the copium that Bored Ape buyers were huffing a few years ago
>>740990171If you're doing a "model that does everything", yes.I think the real breakthrough will be in some tech that makes training an LLM or neural network much easier, a "learn as you go" solution rather than a god LLM
>>740990454you may be right overall about AI (I wouldn't know) but comparing something that anyone can demonstrate has actual uses in hundreds of thousands of ways to investing in owning digital pictures scams is really not a good analogy
>>740989890Based
>>740990465I can't really see a future for LLMs, personally. We're so outside of the intended linguistic scope for these things as it is that it's a miracle it's being nigger-rigged into doing much of anything else at all. The rapid advancement of them associated with exciting new tech already plateaued a couple years ago and LLM advancement currently consists of "it gets confused less," with it being pretty wishy-washy even on that. It's a dead end technology and it probably should never have gone farther than Google Translate work and Akinator guessing-games.
>Redditor realises that everything he has posted or typed on reddit is directly sold to big tech and fed into their ai models
>>740990567Redditors fuck with AIs all the time, they're quite aware LLM AIs and auto-generated articles just repeat whatever they find on Reddit.
>>740990431Pepes and wojaks is a retarded analogy.But if a game had an AI generated fire extinguisher that you spend 3 seconds looking at in an otherwise great game I would buy it, and so would everyone else. That's just reality.>but I wouldntuh huh sure.
>>740990648i like it it's my friend
>>740990683>>740990648now THIS is butt-mad
>>740990684>But if a game had an AI generated fire extinguisher that you spend 3 seconds looking at in an otherwise great game I would buy it, and so would everyone else. That's just reality.Me when I lie.
i appreciate his chutzpah of trying to time it so it's about a second or two off from one minute after the post he's copy-pasted
>game ai usage consumes .01% the water usage of golf courses
>>740981229>game is using stolen assets>not free
>>740990894the least convincing anti ai argument that exists
snoys really trying to pass their melties off as nintendo fans lol
>>740991191>>740990958what
Early AI made some gruesome shit
>>740991270he used ai to make slop responses
>>740991270what
>>740991337Alarmingly he seems to need an AI's help to just copy-paste some posts that make him mad
>>740981229>Ai made > Woke madeI hereby state that I am willing to consume Ai made games and financially support any studio that uses Ai in their games as long as the game is good and not woke.
>>740991449why not just not buy both?
>>740991449based
>>740991449>i will happily eat shit if it's not woke
>>740991531>>740991551uh oh stinky!
Ai will eventually become part of media creation, unfortunately, i don't like it that much either but it is what it is
>>740991496>Hedgefunds dei/esg trillion dollar backings to woke preaching in games for almost two decades filled up most studios with slopThe industry in already rotten to the core anon, just nuke it all, why safeguard the 20% or so of good non woke devs? Id rather join the same hedgefunds and support Ai.
>>740991714>aw gee whiz it's just inevitableanon everybody pushing it was pushing NFTs and blockchain shit a few years agoare digital baseball cards inevitable, are you using them right now
>>740991714>Ai will eventually become part of media creationI'm pretty sure we're already there. Many major devs have revealed that they use AI in creating their games. Major Hollywood films have been released that used AI instead of traditional CGI. I'm sure the music industry is already using it regularly too. I'm started to notice more and more ads are clearly just AI generated. The other day I had to do some government work training shit and the entire thing was generated by AI. AI is a regular part of life TODAY and that is unlikely to change in the future.
was it a mistake to dedicate all of my AI effort into perfecting prompts for furry porn?Should I not be spending thousands of kwh making rouge the bat porn?
>>740991845You've got some pretty fucking weird priorities to place whether a game agrees with you politically above whether anybody actually worked on it
>>740991910many major devs have had social media meltdowns when they weren't met with thunderous applause after revealing thismany major netflix projects have already been canceled because their lead animators didn't know what an AI was or how it worked until they had a lynch mob chasing after themmany music industry heads try their absolute god damndest to keep you from letting it slip that that top rated spotify playlist is entirely made of AI slop
>>740991845that's an odd way to just say that you must consoom
>>740992016latest surprised faggot was ren'py dev when he revealed he's been using AI since 2021
>>740991895why do you imbeciles keep equating meme monkey pictures introduced during the mass psychosis that was coof lockdowns, with something that has objectively pragmatic purpose?its not the same no matter how much you want it to be
>>740991910We're all really behind on what AI is being used for too, like publicly announced. Forget when it's used secretly. Before too long even anime will be full of it and I don't think people will even notice.
>>740992121>why do you keep comparing two forced scam technologies
>>740992096ouch, i actually didn't know that onethe ones i was thinking of were>super smash bros on N64 getting a rollback netcode emulator, was vibe coded>most prevalent doom sourceport, GZdoom, had vibe code forced in by the project maintainer, told anyone who didn't like it to fork the project, got mad when that happened>paper mario N64 source port was vibe coded to get ahead of an ongoing source port by a different team
>>740991895You are such a fucking retard holy shit go back under your rock and stay there.
>>740992226>ugghhhhh accept my inevitable technology you fukkin retartshan't
>>740992265You were comparing investment schemes to actual technology you fucking mongoloid
>>740992096>vibecoding ren'pywtf why
>>740991939>You want a fun enjoyable fantasy game im a fanstasy setting that has nothing to do with anything? nuh uh, time for the real world politics preaching, and you better follow these in the game too! you have no choice.Ai mommy will save us
Why do you guys talk about AI like we're going to be living in Star Trek in two years time? I think you woefully overestimate the technology
>>740992329blockchain is also an actual technologylike AI, it's not useful for much of anything it's proposed as a solution for, and "AI" is thrown about as a buzzword to conflate it with many things it can't do
>>740986898no, this is more like a mild acid trip
>>740992121they are imbeciles
>>740992216I love it when they get mad and shoot themselves in the foot and potentially ruin their entire career in the process.This is what makes being anti-AI worth it, an endless supply of ran down clowns to entertain us at this backyard of the circus.
>>740991939>it's "weird priorities" to not be into dei and not buy dei gamesinteresting...AI haters are deifags all along lol
Its such a fucking dead end piece of technology that I'm shocked we've made it this far with how much has been invested in it. The only thing it does is homogenise content and make your shit look cheap as fuck, which is always actively detrimental towards how the consumer sees your product. One of the biggest issues is scammers using generative AI for everything now so people have this connection to scams with AI content in their brains. Thats not even touching on the fact that it just gets shit wrong like 70% of the time, completely undoing any hopes of actually automating anything.
>>740992613>just like his AI master, he can only think in binary
>>740992349I don't see the big deal about that someone that is not a software developer and trying to leverage the incredibly limited ren'py into doing something it's not really designed to do using AI to achieve that. I'd be a lot more concerned if the script was generated by AI. It's a VN engine. If you're not writing the story then what are you even doing?
AI makes dumb people feel smart which is such a cognito hazard for the general population.
>>740992028People really don't care how was the process of making a product if its good and has great quality, why should it be different with games?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/L6SiEKv7ziE
I like using AI. It's fun.
>>740992684>which is always actively detrimental towards how the consumer sees your product.Crimson DesertArc RaidersExpedition 33All used AI. All critically and commercially acclaimed.
>>740992698>"not supporting woke is WEIRD PRIORITIES. Prioritizing your politics highly is v-very strange">binary thinkingThe actual nuanced response would be "I want neither woke or AI", woke-kun. This? You misspoke and outed yourself thinking no one would notice. Welp. Too late.
AI is fantastic for porn, absolute coomer dream. If you told me that it was born when a gigacoomer found a magic lamp in the desert, rubbed his cock against it, and a big titty genie came out to grant his wish of a magical porn generator I'd believe you.So I allow it to exist.
>>740993031>
>>740993272I'll leave you trying to save face. Good luck, pal.
>>740981229
>>740993271I bought a month sub to one of those hentai gen sites because it was cheap as shit for the first time, and the sfw stuff I could gen for free was pretty good. Man, what a month that was.
>>740989528Reading the model, but it's because it caches shit if you haven't got quite enough VRAM and RAM. The thing of it is it may be doing that and you don't even notice because it's when it's changing models during the WAN processing, so it's not like your performance is noticeably slow. You just have to watch your hard drive like a hawk because otherwise you can tear through a TB+ in a day of fucking around with it which is completely obscene, but if you get a smaller gguf of it (Or get more VRAM or RAM) you're fine, but it's definitely not a case of "Well it works and prompt goes in and video comes out so it's fine" since there's a point where it does that while it's raping your machine. Q4KM was what it took for my 12gb VRAM and 32gb RAM system to not fuck the SSD, but that was also in ComfyUI so maybe things are different if you use something elseI've only ever noticed that for video generation though so if you do other AI shit you shouldn't really need to worry. Unless you use one of the Forge forks for image gen, in which case it WILL make duplicates of every single image you make in your temp folder on C and never delete it
*hits pipe*Let's do a little experiment; someone give me an idea for a vidya protagonist and I'll feed it into an AI and post what I get.
>Bitcoin is a bubble, it will pop>trust the plan Qbros!>vaxxies will die en masse>China is collapsing>AI is just a phase and will crumbleWhat are some other "2 more weeks" kinos?
>>740993428You don't need any subs, just use local models. Completely free, uncensored and customizable.
>>740991714This. And with how much buck broken everyone is getting about AI and constant paranoia and anger about it, all the game devs are just gonna try and hide it even better in future games and people just have to speculate if they actually did use AI or not and AI is gonna get better and better, it will be impossible to tell if it was used or not. There still was a chance that game devs and other who use AI to make them admit of using it and disclosing it on Steam store pages but because of anti-AI crazies harassing those people too, future game devs are just not gonna mention of using AI at all. Just look how much hate Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 devs got even though they did admit of using AI which wasn't that much AI use but it was still enough to cause shit tons of anger and hate towards them. All the future devs are gonna hide it from now on.
>>740994035I mean, all of those have been true in certain ways. >Bitcoin is a bubbleHow many cyrpto curriences popped up overnight only to end up as rugpulls just as soon?>trust the plan Qbros!Seems like every other day for the past few weeks has had promising developments like DoJ being instructed to look into immigration lawyers, or the VP making his own little team to handle the rampant fraud.>vaxxies will die en masseMore than a few people did suffer long term complications from vaccines. >China is collapsingThey're not exactly in a great spot, but they have enough money and lack of morals to basically fake it.>AI is just a phase and will crumbleLike bitcoin, how many AI startups ended up failing? My favorite one was that AI for coding that turned out to just be a bunch of jeets.
>>740994035but vaxxies are dying en masse? every vaxxie death is a vax death
>>740994568>How many cyrpto curriences popped up overnight only to end up as rugpulls just as soon?He didn't say crypto. He said bitcoin. You could have at least pointed out in the last 10 months bitcoin is dropped to half its previous value.
>>740994992>He didn't say crypto. He said bitcoin.Potato, potato
>>740981358so this is what it's like to have a blast
>>740994568Deflecting to some failed shitcoins doesn't mean Bitcoin as a whole popped. Still alive and strong.Deflecting to some minor irrelevant details doesn't change the fact Bidden "won "and got his presidencyDeflecting to some minor data won't change the fact that people accepted it. If people had died en masse there would have been revolts.Deflecting to "they are faking it" doesn't change the fact they're still alive and kicking. Collapse means total collapse. It's imposible to fake.Deflecting to some failed AI attents doesn't mean the whole thing is crumbling.
>>740994992the reason bitcoin flopped is because they started to integrate it into a governmental module that would be requiring ID and shit: they said, nah we good. And hopped over to another crypto.
>>740995048It's like saying the US dollar is worth nothing because the Zimbabwe dollar is worth nothing. That's not why the US dollar is worth nothing.
>>740994568>>740995056it's such a loser mentality talking about the companies that failed, how are those relevant to anything? look towards the success
>>740981816It also can create new drugs orders of magnitude faster than humans can. AI is so effective at making drugs that we are on the cusp of an antibiotic and antiviral revolution. Ten years from now dying from any viruses will be looked at the same way we look at dying from the common cold; it's so absurd it would only happen in someone immunocompromised and near death anyways.
>>740989548There's no such thing as an "ai data center." Over 99% of computing power expended by data centers is used for video streaming. The remaining <% is all other internet traffic, including ai. Calling a data center an "ai data center" would be like calling a car a deer killing machine. Like yes, under very very rare circumstances it can do that, but the vast, vast majority of the time it doesn't and instead provides a useful service.
>>740995487you are mentally challenged mate
>>740982282Why are you such a fucking retard?
>>740995619>>740995709they couldn't their best?
>>740981229if you tolerate 1% you soon accept 2, then 50, then 100.absolutely zero tolerance always and forever.
>>740981229why are gcj retards like this
>>740981816Sorry but it's necessary infrastructure to build databases on everything you have ever said or done in life.
AI has made me start withholding information with malicious intent, since that seems to be the most destructive thing to do long-term. Instead of correcting mistakes, I let them pile until everything comes crashing down.
>>740981358Even DREAMS make more sense than whatever this shitty slop is trying to convey...
>>740989084It's more fun with sound on.
>>740981358Remind yourself that it was shown to a room full of clueless boomer investors and higher management who unanimously decided it looks good, it's worth proudly showing, it's what gaming market need and will gobble up. And they are the exact type of people who rule the world now.
>>740981358FMVbros vindicated bigly
>>740995619You've been fine with data centers since the mid 1990s but now that the news told you these basic pieces of infrastructure are bad you hate them. Do you also hate power plants and water treatment facilities too? What about roads, bridges, and street lights?
>>740981358fucking fever dream lmao
>pressed Tab once in vs code to complete the function name with AI>can never release my game now