Do you have high hopes for this expansion?
I couldn't be more disappointed, so I guess that sort of counts as higher hopes.
No, so they can only surprise me really.
>>740984529NopeNever liked original bbiOnly excited because i will mod all of the enemies of the dlc to base game with some difficulty tweaks
>>740984529No?
>>740984529Is that the ur dragon? Is there a massive dungeon like bbi?
>>740984529If they fool me a second time I can't get fooled again
>>740984529They're even reusing the Ur-dragon motif along with the title itself "Dark Arisen 2". All the enemies shown are more reskins. It's the most afterthought DLC of the decade. It's being made for investors.
Bro its called Dark Arisen, its going to be certified KINO
>>740984529It still will be 10billion times better than anything shitsuno every made
No
>>740984529Yes. Base game was great and i can't wait to dick around the world and bully the new fauna with my retarded paws.
>>740984529Yes. Itsuno had his chance. It's time for KINOshita to prove once again that he's the true caretaker of this IP.
>>740984529My expectations are in check but I am hoping it'll be good. I might be let down if there's no proper large dungeon however but that castle they showed us could end up being one.
>>740984529Nah. If it's paid DLC I won't even play it
>no new vocationsit's shit
>>740986197It is, though there's 2 large updates including engine changes before it launches
>>740984529Hopes? Yes. Expectations? No.
>>740984529did they seriously call it dark arisen 2?
>>740984529No, but I liked the original game so it should be good enough.My main wish is still a non-half-assed hard mode made for NG+ or just a better NG+ regardless of difficulty. And now I also want them to listen to post-patch feedback, realize that what they did to ferrystones/portcrystals is utterly retarded, and make it optional. If not I guess I'll just mod that out.
>>740987280It's Dragon's Dogma 2 Dark 2 Arisen 2.
>>740987443Mildly better than darker arisen
>>7409874432Dark2Arisen
>>740984529the only thing that matters is the game gets a second wind and can finally be fairly compared to ddda in terms of its content
>>740984880Seems that way.
>>740987646>>740987654
>>740984529Not after I saw the hairy cyclops with tusks. It's going to be another bad joke.
>>740987654EJECTO SEATO ARISEN
>>740986237They're tweaking the current vocations to have more core moves and six skills. Also warfarer is getting their weapon swap skill baked into their core skills so it'll hopefully function like we all assumed it would before launch, where pressing a skill button automatically swaps you to that weapon.
>>740988290>Also warfarer is getting their weapon swap skill baked into their core skillsI wouldn't just assume that from the vague line in the patch notes. Not that it wouldn't be great.
>>740984529lol noanyone with any expectations is delusional/thread
should i beat the base game now or wait for the second update?
>>740984529I always disliked that the new powerful enemies were only in BBI and there was no option to fill the world with them on like a NG+ cycle, so I hope they do thatAs nice as BBI was, I always felt as an expansion to the game it kinda sucked that it was just a big dungeon because a huge part of the fun of DD is exploring the worldall we know thus far is DD2's DLC adds a completely new region, but I do hope we get a BBI equivalent as well.
>>740989701>huge part of the fun of DD is exploring the worldbut BBI was fun to explore too, even more if you was underleveled
>>740989816BBI was fun to explore as a dungeon but it didn't offer the same exploration as the big open world
>>740989242Wait for dlc and play it with better performance
>>740989816>Literal chalice dungeon >Fun to exploreLmao
>>740989242Why did you drop it? The August update includes a lot of buffs and nerfs in favor of the player, dunno how you'd feel about that. It does increase the number of weapon skills you can use from 4 to 6 though, which is pretty huge, and supposedly comes with performance improvements.
>>740989701The enemy variants this time seem very coded to the climate. It'd be a bit silly to hope for them to put their wooly cyclops and frost wolves in the desert.
>>740988174>not using cousin to reference the first game's starting villageyou had nought but a single job...
>>740989994Fuck you, chalice dungeons were fun.
>>740989242Should finish the game then unlock the whole map in NG+ and don't progress the story in Vermund.
>>740987280No, it's a decoy title.
>>740988140>I saw the hairy cyclops with tusksI mean cyclops in real life and in DD2 are based on Elephant skulls. A mamoth variation was inevitable.
>pre-order bonus is a clothing setsurely this means that we'll get transmog>>740989242Just wait until the DLC unless youre really hankerin for sex with pawnsThe August update and new content from the dlc should make the game feel fresh enough for as second playthrough if you don't want to wait.
>>740991826It's lazy as fuck is what it is.
>>740984529Not really. I guess I'm glad they're doing it in the first place, but will it be just another disappointment? I feel it's still not going to include enough skill slots for combat or bring back the cool classes like Mystic Knight and High Scepter or even allow us to equip two weapons at once. Guess we'll just have to wait and see what it brings.
Yeah. I actually enjoyed base DD2 so if they add a good end game for me to grind out in the DLC I'll be happy.
>>740984529FUCK NOif the dd2 devs were actually genuinely retarded enough to raise the level cap, despite you finishing your first playthrough at like 1/5 the max level of dd1's max, making your pawn effectively dead in ng+, then they clearly have ZERO FUCKING IDEA what they're doing
>>740989242Wait, there's a ton of shit coming.
>>740992240I agree the level cap is too high but what do you mean by your pawn being effectively dead in ng+?
The trailer literally showed you everything "exciting" that they're adding>a few new vocations and pawn skills>a few "new" enemies (reskins)>BBI's gacha loot systemIt's gonna be an underwhelming wet fart
No Mystic Knight, no buy.
>>740992694no one has any reason to play past the first ng, so they'll stop after beating it at like 50, so if you keep playing to like 70+ who the fuck are you playing witheven not long after release there was like 0 hires at 90
>>740984529im excited and im not sure if i should bei dont even think dd2 is bad its just kind of mid and theres nothing to really do. the game was honestly a solid 8.5 (maybe even a 9) before reaching battahl and im scared the dlc is just gonna be battahl 2.0 but snowy
>>740984529>no significant changes across the two patches beyond the one that isn't out yet increasing the skills to 6 slots>trailer just showed a bunch of reskinned enemiesNo, not really.
>>740992819So exactly the same as DD1 Dark Arisen you mean The DLC which everyone agrees is the best part of the it's game and the thing that actually made it worth playing
>>740989816Would've been a lot more fun without the copy pasted rooms.
>dd2 has fewer warrior weapons than 1you literally can't defend how half-assed they were with this game
>>740984529We've already defied the odds by merely getting one. Let's not risk it.
>>740993241You're comparing base DD2 to DDDA with all DLC includedWe've already seen at least 2 new warrior weapons in screenshots alone, there are probably more
>>7409932410 elemental longswords(greatswords) btw
>>740993310holy shit you goysludge slurping fag how the fuck do you think game dev works??? you really think it would've been a massive undertaking to just match the amount of weapons in dd1+dlc in the base game of 2? absolute fucking retard
>>740984880No massive ''deep'' dungeon, this time its a new open world region with the random rng loot appraisal found all over the place..not a fan of this choice.There are however 12 smaller dungeons being added.
>>740993310>base game dd1 has 24 warrior weapons>base game dd2 has 14kill yourself
>>740989242There is an upcoming patch that will improve performance, so if it ran like shit for you, wait.
>>740984529I expect it to make the game better, which it certainly will. No more no less. And there's not much else to play anyway.
>>740993150>The DLC which everyone agrees is the best part of the it's game and the thing that actually made it worth playingLiterally nobody was saying this or even knew who Kinoshita even was before "Shitsuno" left the company and became the scapegoat for why DD2 sucked, almost everything people loved about DD1 was shit from the main game, you're huffing insane levels of copium.
>>740993470nta and idk how it was at launch but in the last 5 years i definitely saw way more people praising bbi than base gamet. prefers base game because i actually like having a story and a world instead of just a shitty cramped dungeon
i still don't buy DD2is it fun yet or do i wait for DA
>>740993648Just wait. Don't be a beta tester like us.
>>740993371>>740993401yep, just as I figured
>>740993648wait
>>740993648wait at least for the august patch that improves performanceif it doesn't you can easily write this turd off your wishlist, I know I will
>>740992819it didnt show any of the 12 dungeons or the loot tied to them
>>740993310>You're comparing base DD2 to DDDA with all DLC includedThere was never any excuse for DD2 having less content than DD1 + DA.
>>740984529LMFAO......no
did they ever fix the optimization or will my pc still blow up?
>>740994646Not yet. The promise is that the august patch will, but don't count your chickens til they've hatched as they say.
>>740993470delusional copepeople always praised the infinitely superior enemy encounters, gear, exploration and incentive to actually do cool thingsand the better music and bosses.. and even the atmosphere being better despite the recycled areasIt was the first time in DD where exploration felt tense. It was the first time where exploration truly mattered and felt rewarding, because that chest could easily have a wonderful weapon or armor or meaningful reward instead of being borderline guaranteed to have some dumb shit id never use.
>>740994563>There was never any excuse for DD2 having less content than DD1 + DA.it's called "Games take longer to make and everything is 10x higher fidelity then they were before"
>>740994846you're a retarded fucking faggot
>>740984529it will fix EVERYTHINGit will add TWELVE new classesit will bring the she-goat BACK
>>740992819If we already saw everything then the enemy variety is extremely disappointing and I won't bother with it.
>>740993401>base game dd1 has 24 warrior weapons17 of which were total garbage that nobody ever used but you secondaries can't possibly know that because, at best, you were kids when the vanilla game came out or you were crying and asking, “PC port when??!”
>>740984529No. But, I think I’m ready for another playthrough, so I’m looking forward to it in that sense. Who knows, maybe those updates will fix a bunch of problems with the base game, but I’m not counting on it.
I hope these faggots improve the rest of the pawn specs because the new one completely outclasses every other.
>>740994743>infinitely superior enemy encountersthe difficulty curve is terrible, you either get ganked to hell in tight areas or just destroy everything with OP gear >gearIt's a shitty RNG gacha to pad out the playtime>explorationIt's literally a bunch of lazily copypasted rooms>and incentive to actually do cool thingslike what
>>740995025Base DD1 has:Dwells in LightElemental LongswordsThousandlimbs (Removed)Gransys FlambergeLancer SwordSteel Greatsword+ The extra Warhammers not depicted.lOver DD2. It still has more weapons even if you trim all the fat and the DDDA dlc.
>>740993401>245 of those are dlc weapons retard. Nice job outing yourself.
>>740993241>they will seethe about the unfair comparison but won't say anything about listing only the longswords in dd1
>>740984529no loli pawn no buy
Why are you retards comparing weapon counts as if theyre anything except glorified stat sticksThe only truly unforgivable change from DD1 to DD2 is the removal or armor layers. Thats it. Everything else is either an upgrade, a sidegrade or completely negligible.
>>740984529No.I honestly feel like I was scammed the first go around, so I won't be buying it out of protest. And you know what, they're just going to release more DLC and an ultimate edition later, they're just going to scam me again. No thanks.
>>740993310>You're comparing base DD2 to DDDAyeah, god forbid we put a 12 years old sequel from a AAA company up to the same standard as a mid budget expansion from 2012
the fuck is the point of adding this stuff to unarmed combat? i already know not to get my hopes up for a monk vocation but what the fuck do they expect people to think when they do shit like this
>>740995932That's a different issue.
>>740995997They are adding a damage boosting ring for unarmed just like dark arisen.
>>740995997We're getting a ring that increases unarmed damage just like Dark Arisen 1
>>740995997It's for me personally so I can make more chuuni shit in skillmaker.
>>740994901concession accepted
>>740984529>6 active skills>random loot, so there a reason to do same mosnters againYes, releasing game on switch 2 literally saved dd2 as far as I'm awareFiring itsuno helped a lot too
>>740996096>>740996080that was in vanilla dd2
>>740996291estrogen injected
>>740995932Because not everyone is a casual autist like you. I don't care about stats at all I want cool looking stuff and DD2 sucked ass there. Less customization worse outfits less weapons.
>LOOK OUT ARISEN! SNOWGRE!
>>740995997maybe they're seething about crimson desert since it did melee so good over there
>>740996456Well it clearly didn't do enough damage so they are adding its level 2 version. Just don't get your hopes up for an unarmed vocation.
no but it will be fun gameplay and a reason to go backdefinitely will get my money's worth and have fun
>>740996729>a frozen undead arisen, watch out for their chilly touch
>>740984529Extremely. I’m so damn hyped.
>>740996889frozen undead
>>740997051You sorry fool...
>>740996889>There Arisen! Arctic WOLVES
No. It doesn't interest me at all. Dark Arisen 1 didn't save Dragon's Dogma 1. You would have to completely remake the game from the ground up to do that. It abandoned it for a completely disconnected dungeon and I expect this to be much the same.
>>740997051>>740997205
>>740984529None.
>>740995025yeah well it had several elemental ones that i would use for slimes, including dwells in light (no ur dragon btw), and rusted weapons are fun and dumb, and i'd definitely even take one of the other gimmick dlc ones like silence or whatever once in a while for fun
>>740995882honestly it's just been a while since i played through dd1 and i forgot it even had warhammers, idk how this bitch was sex
>>740996729>>740996889>>740997239Let me guess, you need more
>>740996889>a frozen undead arisen! watch out for his chilly willy!
>>740984529>Capcom>2026My expectations are very low. I will probably wait for a sale, if I buy it at all.
>>740988140I am kind of with this anon. I am HIGHLY sceptical about the dlc since the trailer showed monsters with already existing rigs. Not one unique monster
>>740994646nigga get out of yo fukkin 1060 already
dark arisen bosses were also retreads with the only new one being daimon
>>740984529If the other kingdoms lost contact with Norgan over a century ago why are people still living there.
>>740999916Doomposters don’t care
>>740999947Time is...convoluted.
>>740984529If the High tier DA gear is sexy, yes
>>740984529Not at all.I am going to buy it, though.
Hire my Pawn!4ZB1NAH0BXB1
>>740995932fucking THIS. There is many wrongs in dd2, but this one is at the top of disappointments.
>>740995997>NOOOOOOO WHY ARE THEY ADDING OPTIONAL STUFF>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAT AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEjesus fucking christ you people are such whiny niggers
>>740999916and instead of frozen saurians or ice undead it was giant saurians and greater goblins or w/ecockatrice shows there's not just frozen shit planned, if they include more novel additions like death (who had literally 3 moves btw) or maneaters then itll be fine
>>740999947Because they lost contact.
>>741001065Get a real job Kojima.
>>740984529the story of the game is just garbage, nonsensical trash, worldbuilding is non existant too, unless they fix any of that my hopes are zero
>find the snow sphinx>her nips are so rockhard she uses them as weapons
>no bbi>not even everfall tier shitcapcom is so retarded
>>741001173But people are still there. Did no one go to check.
>they added eternal ferrystone Where's secret of metamorphosis though. I'd also want a title menu option to let you restart a ng+ save off the current savefile whenever after beating the game once, instead of only from a cleared save.
>>741001213the 12 dungeons they're adding are all on the same scale as BBItrust KINOshita blastbro
>>741001318If people were sent to check, but didn't return, then that is losing contact.
>>741001351tbqh BBI was just the same locations repeated over and over againif the 12 dungeons are distinct, then they might just have more content than BBI
>>741001318Disa don't care
>>741001406But Norgan was part of Vernworth so they must have paid taxes and supplied some sort of resource. To just give up so easily is strange. Guess we’ll get to know in-game but at least BBI made sense
>>740984529For the past 5 years, Capcom has not delivered a single disappointment. It's been nothing but hit after hit after hit. DD2 was and is an amazing game, it just didn't have enough content. The foundation is as good as it gets. When it drops, concurrent will soar to 300k, no doubt. One of the biggest releases of this year for sure.
>>740984529No, but I will be there day 1 because I'm whipped goycattle
>>740989242>15 hoursInstall the mod list once they get fixed (latest update caused some bugs).Playing through the entire game on Vanilla will leave a bas taste in your mouth. It will only get worse the further you play.This is the only game I'd ever recomend mods on a first play though, but DD2 really needs them.
>update to make the game 20x easier when the biggest thing ruining the game im the first place is how fucking easy it is>brand new enemies are a cyclops with fur and a generic dragon>story revolving around some stupid oc donutsteel instead of our characterYeah bro I'm so hyped
Dragon's Dogshit 2
>>740984529It means a new area and more monsters for modders to work with, which is enough for me even if the vanilla expansion is shit.
>>741001575Who said they gave up easily?We don't know what happened. One can reasonably assume that people were sent, never came back, and so it was confirmed that contact had been lost. What's so hard to grasp here?
>>741001785what modders dd2 didn't have a single worthwhile mod
Honestly with how little they have to market about this dlc, my biggest hope is just that there are alternate core skillsWarrior getting some shit ass shoulder bash while other vocations get unique mechanics kills me
>>740984529Is the original director of BBI making it? If so, then very much so.
>>741001418>tbqh BBI was just the same locations repeated over and over againso was the everfall, for that matter. if they each have a different theme, are decent size and their contents respawn then they'll be good additions.
>want to replay the game when the august update hits>also want to hold off on the off chance they add a hard mode with the dlcwhat do?
>>741001897It's dragon's dogma, anonA hard mode would be just as poorly balanced, just with all the suffering frontloaded
>>741001862It's the same Kinoshita as DDDA, yes.
>>740995932I love the first game and almost love the 2nd game just as much, its better in many ways but definitely lacking in some respects but the DLC may fix those issuesWe got actual improvements in 2>Better combat system>Classes feel more unique>weapon upgrade paths>larger SEAMLESS world>Pawn abilities help you explore otherwise unreachable places>One of the best character creators in a gameGenuine problems the game does have are>Game becomes easier faster than the first game although starts off harder>Lack of repeatable endgame (unmoored world is cool but no everfall equivalent is disappointing)>Trickster disappointing (the complete almost entire lack of being able to damage enemies by normal means just went too far)>Lack of layered clothing, its not the worst thing ever but its obviously a step back>Pawn AI is worse and does not learn from past experiences in battle (does this change once they have pawn badges? in which case those are poorly implemented as you'll only have 1 or 2 pawn badges by the end of the game)>Slower/easier large monsters>4 skill slots instead of 6 (granted we got core skills but we could have had 6 from the get go if they didn't waste buttons on likely unused item shortcuts)Just about everything else people complain about are things that are present in the first game like story or enemy variety, the game was made for fans of the first game, its a great safe sequel but was really lacking the dlc, depending on how many issues it addresses could easily make the game superior to the first.
>>741001823>dd2 didn't have a single worthwhile modhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcvNsB34fjI
its just a testbed for wildsbreakborne. im ambivalent about it
Should I complete this game before August? I have a 190 hours into it but I never completed the story. Just had fun fucking around.
we are fucking back
>they showed reskinned cyclops>no new monstersThey are gonna reskin all the available monsters and call it a day isnt it?
>>740993241>ThousandlimbsCome back to my side once more
>>741002159Wow just like BBI except for Daimon, the only new skeleton.
>>741002159Death and Damon were the only non reskins in DA1
>>741002015Beating the game(getting to the 'postgame' at all) locks you out of 95% of the game's content and railroads you into a NG+ cycle, I'd avoid it if you don't wanna do all that shit again
>>741002202>they couldnt be assed to do a singular new monster this timeBleak
>>740993470this, the extreme fluffing up of Dark Arisen is a huge LARP and pretty much entirely relies on either not knowing or deliberately ignoring that Kinoshita was also the lead game designer of DD2it's nowhere near different enough nor additive enough to the experience for someone who doesn't like base DD to suddenly consider DDDA worth playing
Do we know if Kinoshita assumed the ship this time again? Or they are handing this to whatever skeleton crew remained?
>>741001665>play with mods on vanilla>get to DLC>suddenly DLC has no mods>now DLC feels like shit (unconfirmed)its joever
>>741002256I have barely touched the main story so that should be fine I think. The last thing I did was to break some dude out of prison for Captain Brandt.
>>741001958Pawn AI does change pretty significantly when they get badges but I would wager that 99.9% of people beat the game without getting a single badge so its completely worthless.Also I still think the idea that pawns learned from what you did in the first game was pure bullshit and only fueled by massive amounts of collective community cope.
>>740984529They're not going to fix the story, so the main game will stay mediocre until you get to DA content.
>>741002673Yeah you're like halfway-ish throughIt's pretty obvious when the actual end of the game is so you should be fine
>>740989242Legit just wait for the August update at the very least since they'll give us back 6 skill slots + a little performance boost.
>>740984529>>740984620Haven't played DDII yet but when I do if it's awesome I'm going to call all the naysayers faggots because I suspect they've been wrong this whole time.
>>741002881kekkkk
>>740984529Not particularly.
>>741002936>Pawns no longer shout in horror or despair if you die: /
there better be non-winter fur armor or i'm gonna shit
>>741003459They’ve already shown tummy window on the Thief armor
>>741003459There’s some skin but its still winter
>>740995773>5 of those are dlc weapons retard. Nice job outing yourself.i clearly meant bbi and non bbi you spastic, and nice gotcha because base game dd1 STILL have more than base game dd2 even without the non bbi dlc weapons
>>741004193I think that anon meant the dlc weapons that were in the base game, you can buy them at the forger dude.
>>741002881true, the original dark arisen had like 3 new enemies and the rest were reskins
Would a tropical beach theme be better? People would probably bitch over that too.
>no new classes>no endless Moon tower dungeon>no reason to play to lvl 999Haha... M-Maybe next year DLC will really fix the game this time for sure for real...
>>741002936I miss the old /ddg/. Some dude even did fan art of my tall ass nun. Good times.
>>741004285yeah i know i shouldn't have counted those ones but even removing bbi weapons and the dlc forger weapons it's still more
>>741004419/ddg/ was shit because three people in particular would spam their Pawn non-stop.
>dd1>years after release still post in vg friends and see people posting prawns and letting eachother know that the ur dragon is about to have his ass ate>dd2>dead literally 2 months after release
>>740984529I noticed in the screen with the rewards there was 2 pictures of the same axe, but one had a different price on it, implying there is different value to different stuff base on something. Please tell me they have finally realized that linear gear progression was shit and there is now discernable differences between items and its not just equipping whatever new you find? Also I really hope there is a cosmetics swapper or something, DD restricting armours to classes then having all those armours behind classes that noone plays is fucking stupid as shit. Thats MMO stuff, and this hasnt got the amount of gear or build variety of an MMO, just let people play dressup.
>>741004513>vg friendsthreads* piss
>>741004512People just used to have their pawn IDs in the name section and hardcore shilling got your pawn brined mercilessly. It was a different time, different place. The last time I popped in there during the launch of the second it was a bag of syphilitic dicks.
>>741004549They probably figured as much from the survey
>>741004375>Would a tropical beach theme be better?>Bikini armors>Beach date with (you)r pawn>Goblins with water melon head>Knackers wearing floater >Sea dragonIt would be unironically better.
>>741004734Hnmmm….dont sell it to me so fantastically….
>>741004734>>Bikini armorsi'd rather have the dd1 armor pieces back
>>741002936You probably will have the best 10 or so hours of your life blasting. And then it's all downhill from there...
>>741002936well you're just retarded because if you haven't played dd2 yet you probably never loved dd1 and then you won't give a shit that the game is a downgrade in every waysame way no one who loves skyrim gives a shit about oblivion
>>740992819>a few new vocationsWhere the fuck did you see that in the trailer
>>741001958>Better combat systemDD2 combat have more sluggish animations and input is less responsive compared to first one, because of that hitting and killing things gives less satisfaction. I'll not mention monster climbing where there is nothing worth climbing in dd2 (except Talos and Golems). Taking away throwing small items like bottles, throwblasts... This is not improvement for me. Game physics and ragdolls got better thats for sure.>Classes feel more uniqueI was thinking like that too, but ultimately it is less fun having only one weapon. I didn't like playing archer with just only bow.>weapon upgrade pathsThis one is good. Only problem is that uglifies upgraded item with shitty texture.>larger SEAMLESS worldI don't care if it is large SEAMLESS world, when that open world is barely explorable, full of repetitive enemies and no loot. Map is full of corridors but with open sky and have so much unused space (pic related) where you cannot go. Dungeons are just caves, nothing like Catacombs, Water God Altar etc. Truly only memorable places that I felt that I was exploring was nameless village, pathways to both sphinxes and that dark foggy swamp.
>>741004734>winter dlc>fur armors with color and style>snuggle up in front of the fireplace with (you)r pawn>knackers making yellow snow>ice dragonWe won so hard
>>741004907read the entire sentence anon
>>741004929Your circled mountain would have made for a great dungeon run to the other side. Either a mine like DD, or an abandoned dwarf stronghold
>>741004998'vocations skills' is not an intelligible phrase to take away from a sentence like that, esl
>>741004903Oblivion is just the abysmal dogshit version of Morrowind. Skyrim was at least different enough.
>>741002681They genuinely did learn and had star ratings, when you specifically target a weakness on an enemy or hit a weakpoint or another method registered as enemy knowledge the pawn will even mention that they just learned a new way to fight the monster so pawns quite quickly atleast learn the weaknesses of every monster provided they have access to the right elements.In DD2 however pawns seem to never ever learn enemy elemental weaknesses, perhaps they do once they have the badge though.
>>740999916Anon, people who liked itsuno shit and dd2 don't carePaid shills told them that the only problem with game was "lack of monster variety" instead of fucking mechanics and gameplay, and so they believe itAlt right simpletons even defend endgame being on timer
>>740984529All I wanted was a Co op dungeoncrawling expansion. Just something like deep rock or helldivers, but with DDs classes and gameplay. Lore wise we could just play as pawns in some arisens world.Also cooking clips. I fucking love camping out and cooking in adventure games.
>>741005534Mechanics and gameplay were the only good part of DD2, pseud
it was still fucking retarded that for all the flaws dd2 had all the normies pissed themselves over the microtransactions (that were all shit you can easily get in game so it seemed like someone was just forced to sell them for real money too)meanwhile each monster hunter game releases with $200+ of unique cosmetic dlc and no one blinks twice
>>741005416>new vocations and pawn skills>(vocations & pawn) skillsif you can't understand basic English, back to school with you
>>741005667'vocations skills' is not a phrase that works in english, esl
>>741005617>Only 4 active skills>Vocations locked behind quests>no respawning loot>pawns ai being nerfed to the ground compared to first game, couldn't even pin enemies>I love sucking cocksYou disgust me, homo
>>741004549there's also variations of the same item icon that have a shiny border implying they have some intrinsic difference yeahand we've seen some have skills attached too
>>741005747>uh uhh it doesn't matter that it plays better moment to moment because broader things are worse!lol, boo hoo faggotMeanwhile the entire rest of the game is soulless dogshit
>>741004929>Sluggish and less responsive so less satisfaction Your opinion, Not every class is even like this anyway>less fun having only one weaponYour opinion, also warfarer exists and with the 6 skills returning or just using mods its practically the same if not better>barely explorable, repetitive enemies, no loot, dungeons are cavesWatergod alter is cave with water, quarry is cave, catacombs is practically a cave + tomb (there are tombs in dd2 just smaller).DD2 has a bunch of generic caves, some more unique than others, it has mines, it has the grotto, it has tombs in battahl, seafloor shrine, the dragon tower in the south west, it has that one garden like dungeon in the elf area, the swamp area (i wish this area was much larger desu), the large bandit hideout in battahl part of that thief kids questline, that one fortress near the checkpoint rest town and many more.There are a lot more unique locations than people remember and with the introduction of 12 more dungeons with this DLC its only going to get better but the lack of everfall is a big shame and I hope atleast the post game unique dragons are made easily repeatable
>>741006236Good post, anon
Should I make a beastren pawn and arisen for my next run.
>>741005478Nta but even if you never hit a monsters weakness your pawn would learn it wince it got the appropriate star rating. Them saying they learned it is just flavor, they do the same thing in the 2nd game always claiming they learned a new strategy when you throw a monster off a cliff
I miss the star rating. Made it easy to keep track of all monster you fought. That said, certain monster had to be fought a number of times to unlock a star.
>>741002636>now DLC feels like shit (unconfirmed)So far all the new monsters are just variants of existing ones, so it won't be hard to update the mods for them.
>>741002681Anon, literally patch notes for august patch had shit like pawns actually aiming at monster weakness and even pinning them nowI honestly dunno why you fags tried to gaslight me for two years that they still do that in second game, when even devs now confirmed that they don't
>literally just a reskin with snow Why would anyone be hyped for this?
>>741007139Worked great for og DA
> Added the pawn command Explore that can be used by holding the Go command button. *Added the option to toggle this on/off.>Added the pawn command High Five that can be used by holding the Come command button. *Added the option to toggle this on/off.>Pawns can now grapple enemies and draw their attention.>Pawns can now interfere with enemy attacks when the Arisen is downed.>Pawns can now protect the Arisen when they are unable to move.>Pawns can now suggest using large boulders when enemies are grouped together.>Pawns can now lure enemies to areas where the environment can be used.>Pawns can now perform follow-up attacks on enemies knocked back by the Arisen.>While grappling a large enemy, pawns can now pull the Arisen up and make them jump higher.>Pawns are now more likely to prioritize enemies targeting the Arisen when the player is using a ranged vocation.>When carrying an incapacitated pawn, pawns will now act based on the situation, such as putting down the pawn being carried if they are in danger.>Pawns will now act more quickly to attack or provide support.>Pawns will now avoid or guard against attacksFiring Itsuno was the best possible thing that could happen with Dragon's Dogma 2, dude really held it back a lot with his "vision".
I doubt it will be that impressive as everything indicates this is a low budget, low risk/investment DLC delivered by a small team. That's fine though, I liked the game well enough and i'll be happy to go back and have some new stuff to play with. Honestly i'm just happy that Capcom doesn't consider the IP completely dead.
>>741007274I’m gonna zoom.Now add the ability to hug Pawns.
>>741007087It does not say anything about aiming at weaknesses they’re making them more effective at helping you climb and protecting ranged Arisen. Idk why people talk about weaknesses really other than holy element I never cared in either game. It’s not like there’s a fire version of the ice tornado spell to use instead.
>>740984529Yes
>>741007178You clearly didn't play BBI
NO DUNGEONS = NO BUY.GIVE. ME. A. FUCKING. ACTUAL. DUNGEON.I WANT A DND DUNGEON. WITH TRAPS, CORRIDORS, MONSTERS, AND 'ENCOUNTERS'. I DON'T WANT OVERWORLD SLOPCAMPS. GIVEME. DUNGEONS. OR NOBUY.
>>741007396Elden Ring proved that "dungeon fags" don't really want "dungeons"
Holy shit Nick fixed the mods already
>>741007396can't pretend elden ring doesn't exist anon, investors want open world only now, at best you'll get a side catacomb that's one corridor
>>741007446The dungeons were the only good part of that slop ass game, what the fuck are you on about
>>741007446>one of the most popular games of all time and solidly part of international cultural lexicon >has dungeons, many of which are memorable experiences
>>741007448I don’t use mods
>>741007554You really should, Bestiary is a really good mod that helps with the enemy variety.
>>741007691Who cares about enemy variety when foundations are bad
>>741007691Is it finished now?
>>740984529I hope that the wind will be able to push me. I have gained weight and I am uncertain.
>>741007446>>741007509Do you guys even look at the games you bitch about?
I want to lick pawns
>>741007995Ogre...
>>741007995Same but I exclusively rim them
My biggest issue with DD2 is how bad the general movement feels, both in and outside of combat.Vocational wishlist:Fighter: abyssal anguish like weapon buffWarrior: tomahawk style weapon throw skillArcher: well.. hailstorm volley is returning, maybe a specialty arrow that induces Torpor or exhaustion.Mage: bring back High Grapnel, the best thing about the class.Mystic Spearhand: great magic canon *expy skill, or a ff Dragoon job like super jump skill with AoE impactSorcerer: bring back Gicel, one of the most iconic spells... bring back High Miasma ( was more optimal than Maelstrom in some scenario's, such as vs Grigori or BBI dark bishop )Magic Archer: biggest weakness is zero evasive options. give MA some kinda fancy elegant elf like evasive move with slight magical floatiness to it, maybe doing a perfect dodge charges your next skill faster.Trickster: dont care lmao.
>>741007381it was a sickdark reskin
guys do you think they'll add dungeonsthey said 3 major features and they only showed 2
>>741008708>sickdarkThis term will never catch on. Stop trying to force it.
>>740984529No, but then again I'll just be happy with more Dragons Dogma to play (exactly my experience with 2).
>>741004549EX Skills will probably apply to more than rings this time. Or if not skills then the passives from 1 like more carry weight boots etc.
>>741008782Twenty new hairstyle is a major additions Along with tattoos.
>>741004929What is never mentioned is the sound design being better in dd1 in a lot of scenarios. Go climb a cyclops and try slashing it with daggers and tell me which game does the sound effects better.
>>741002881At least the gorecyclops is like 100 ft so there is a different strategy to kill it
>>741009327the woolly cyclops doesnt have any eyes either though
>>741009396It’s covered by fur
>>741009015Yeah there are EX skill slots on weapons and armor/clothing now
>>741009015https://www.youtube.com/live/AxKtVcMNpzY?si=CLFxuOM6RvjNimOj&t=2063The Japanese reveal shows an EX skill (Skysplitting Slash) tied to an axe, yeah
>>741009327The joke will be that both dlc had reskins but dd1 will still somehow have more variety even in the reskins (2 cyclope variants in gorecyclops and giant gorecyclops, more skeleton and zombie reskins)
>>741007521>many of which are memorable experiencesLike???There is a single one with birds that throw bombs at you but everyone only remembers it for how retarded it is
>>741009484>The forever gacha to try and get the equipment piece you want + appropriate skill combo, for all your equipment piecesT-thanks...
>>741009503>dd1 will still somehow have more variety even in the reskinsFactually true, they at least resize the monsters
>>740984529My expectations are low as fuck considering how disappointed I was. They have to fix the main game too on top of this.
>>740988140Lets not pretend there weren't already cyclops, gorecyclops, and giant cyclops in dark arisen
>>741009571For me, it's the like 4 dungeons where the gimmick is different variations on gaslighting you into thinking you're backtracking with mirrored layouts
>>741009597it's dark arisen all over again... oh wait
>>741009812>Heavy armor with faster cast times polluting the pool>WarfarerMake it stop...
As long as there is slut armor im happy
I want underwear that dig into the ass more
>>741009991>>741010045
>>741002202>>741002232The Eliminator was new too.
>>741010160I’m a biological man. Not a tranny.
>>741010309So was the giant evil eye boss and the garms.DD2cels are just coping
>>741010309The eliminator used an old skeleton rig that was touched up.
>>741010420Touched up into a new enemy, that's how game design works you troon.No reskinning a cyclops with fur is not the same
>>741010419The Garms were technically giant wolves, but I feel their fight was different enough. Also the Living Armors while technically the ultimate version of undead knights the whole physical/magick gimmick made them quite different too.
>>740993470>Literally nobody...knew who Kinoshita even was Holy newfag, stop talking, you're projecting your own retarded ignorance onto everyone else.
>>741010494Eliminators new ability was charge as distinct from the old rigCyclops yeti has ice breath as distinct from the old rig
>>741010494wooly cyclops has giant mammoth tusks
>>741010586>moving the goalpost engagedEliminators by just idling are different in how they hold and use their weapons. They don't behave like skeletons or bandits at all.Snow cyclops is probably just a cyclops with some altered moves.
Whats undoubtedly the worst class to play? (other than Trickster) im guessing its archer since they moved all the dagger stuff to another class so its stuck just firing arrows.
>>740984529I only hope for a new monster girl like the sphinx.
>>741010586Gorecyclops either threw rocks or was 10 times as tall, furry cyclops can't compete>>741010682That will change nothingI am still waiting for the brand new enemies for 2, go on name them
>>740999916daimon was a reskinned ogre with magic powers
>>741010731Close, it's magic archer. It's miserable in 2 when you remember the glory days of 1.
>>741010731All of them except warrior, and maybe(very maybe) mage felt worse than in original dd.
>>741010776>That will change nothingThat will obviously be used in an attack, and if nothing else is new shit to climb on and break off
>>740984529No
>>741010731archer's core moveset is actually pretty fun now, you launch off enemies with kicks and can do sliding/rolling arrow shots. its actual skills boil down to mostly "fire the arrow" sadlywarrior is also quite fun, they have the barge as a quick stun and you can time their light attack to swing over and over. i use both just for their basic skillsets as warfarerhonestly it's either trickster or magic archer, neither has any close quarter options and their core skills aren't very fun either (though trickster is getting the mage float in a patch at least)
>>741010791>OgreOgres are clearly a cyclops reskin so Daimon is a fast cyclops with magic and 2 eyes. You know what this game needs? A Giant Enemy Crab
I want more DD2 and I'm getting itWhat's the problem>NOOOO ANON ITS JUST RECYCLED GARBAGE WITH SNOWDont care
>>741010731I like all of them so i'm biased. The only one that pisses me off is the fact they kept mage/sorcerer/trickster/spearhand split even though they streamlined everything else. I get it's a final fantasy meme reference to white/black/blue/red mage but it's a waste of slots.
>>741010931Nice cosplay, but debra wilson will get her role
What’s with the reskin double standard?
>>741010931100% of tourist complaints are>[thing from last game] is in the sequelit's funny they get fact-checked and shit themselves screaming
>>741010919>WAN MIRRION TROOPS, ARISEN *casts bolide*
>>741011027Sequels are supposed to have more content, not less
did anything run at you like these ice zombies in the base game
>>741011112Whaaaohh
>>741011141skeletons perhaps
>>741011141Nope
>>741011141>reskinned magesWoooooowBack at me when the reskin is at least resized to be 10x taller
>>741011027fake fans being armchair developers
>>741011036If the aesthetic direction from the first game was in DD2, maybe it wouldn't be so soulless
How many corrupted pawn/arisens do you think we will fight?I hope it just randomly picks a whole squad every hour or so from someone online at the moment so now you have to fight a nigger with formless feint and easy kill.Post party screenshots.
>>741011406Disprove us by providing us with a reskin that scales the enemy to be 10x bigger
>>741011467>Post party screenshotsI’m out eating dinner.
>>741011470Gorecyclops? this post is clearly bait.
>>741006236>Your opinion, Not every class is even like this anywaySlow turns on ground movement and waiting through slow animations, doing extra steps to do light attacks (unsheathe -> light attack instead of instant light attack). Don't get me wrong, I had my fun in it, but I still cannot call DD2 combat system an improvement. I felt less responsible for my character because of it.>also warfarer exists and with the 6 skills returning or just using mods its practically the same if not betterI quickly locked in warfarer when I got it, but ... good lord... I had to install mods for this class. Without mods, warfarer is hot steaming garbage without skills. I hope they fix this class in patches or dlc.>There are a lot more unique locations than people rememberWell, maybe people don't remember them cus they are easy to forget, too generic, all look the same. Same for overworld. Shame that Moonglint tower wasn't bigger. That introduction of 12 more dungeons can fix it, but those that are already in have no substance.>the lack of everfall is a big shame>the swamp area (i wish this area was much larger desu)Yeah, me too.>>741009120100% this. Audiovisual feedback in combat is better in dd1.
>>740984529Well, I'm going to play it. Which means I'm probably a little hopeful. If I didn't care at all I would ignore it.
>>740984529mayhaps
>>741011647Audio yes. Visual no. Not after the update that added back dynamic wounds.
>>741011027The trailer didn't show literally everything and I'm feeling demoralized
>>741011467if they return i want them to do this with them>wandering pawn approaches>"I KNOW PRECISELY WHEN A CURATIVE IS NEE-">reject>it flips the fuck out and attacks>if you try to hire it it also flips the fuck out and attacks>pawn "rumors" now include talk of wandering pawns who have forgotten their purpose
>>741011586In 2 tardo
>>740984529So is the base game getting any additions? Basically I'm asking is it worth doing a playthrough and putting it at the endgame or fresh save then?
>>741011736>The trailer didn't show literally everythingWell, Itsuno's trailers did show everything, despite him claiming otherwise
>>741011814The 12 new dungeons are presumably behind those locked doors
>>741011874At least one of those doors is only in the Unmoored World too, for what it's worth.
So why did we have 4 weapon skill limit for 2 years before they finally rolled it back.Was this Shitsuno's doing or was there some actual balance in mind?
>>741011736But dd2 trailer did literally show everything, so i'm expecting this dlc to have also shown everything.But sure start coping about 20 new vocations and 50 new enemies like last time
>>741011767Garm are giant wolves.
>>741011961They went all out but it overflowed and went back to 4.
>>741011961My real question is, why not 8 skills? what is the new control scheme gonna be that allows six but not eight?
>>741011961if i had to guess, the game's leadership disagreed on a few points. now that one side of the debate is no longer working on the project, the remainder can push the game toward what he views as the better game.
>>741011961To make combat "more tight" according to right wing influencers and griftersOf course it was terrible idea that only pelased incels>>741012125Need one button free for jumping
>>741012005Theyre in base game tardo, what giant new reskin is being added to 2?
>>741012084Pawns worked best with 4. with 6 they will screw up and act more dumb
>>741011961You'll notice that one of the buttons used for selecting skills in DD1 is now used for a permanent vocation-specific skill
>>741012220They also gave sheathing the weapon its own button even though you can automate it in settings, effectively wasting a button for no raisin
>>741012005garm act pretty differently, no? not really pack encounters like wolves.
>>741012173You clearly know the answer, time traveler. Share it with the rest of the class.
I remember back on the og trailers they were showing all these cool weapon swap combos and shit and when people got to play they were nowhere to be found and you only got to it near the end of the main quest.fucking crazy what the fuck were they thinking, a lot of design choices made no fucking sense
>>741012353You won't like it
Pawns look so ugly in Bakbatthal sun…….
>>740985113>42/54 What gives?
>>741012418I really dislike how they replaced magic circles with auto-tageting in DD2.
>>741012418You can get it freely by just exploring.
>remove thing from first game>add it back with a dlc but less content (only adding the ice dragon back but not the thunder dragon)Dragons slopma
>>741012418honestly what made me angry is that he silenced the drake and it still breathed fire.
>>741012418>warfarer using his entire kit
>>741012418Erhmm... Good design choice acktually! Warfarer sucks if you don't have the other classes leveled up
>>741012527Silence is for magic, dumbass. Fire is not magic.
>>741012294my immulsions
>>741012515>add it back with a dlcIt's not part of the DLC, you'd know that if you could read.
>>741011724>Not after the update that added back dynamic wounds.Neat. Did them only for enemies, or arisen and pawns got them too?
>>740984529High hopes? No.Excited? Definitely. I got around 250 hours in DD2 (and close to 400 in DD DA). DD2 dropped the ball pretty bad in a lot of ways and improved in many ways. Glad to have more content.
>>741010731>>741010798Magic archer only being able to attack when it can lock on was such ass. Oh, enemy very clearly waiting to ambush you? Too bad asshole, you can't do SHIT but walk your dumb ass right into it. No one else really got their cool dagger skills either. It was such a letdown.But I also want to take a moment to bitch about mage and sorc STILL having a bunch of overlapping shit despite all the spells they didn't port from the first game. "Oh, every class only gets one weapon to make them unique, have fun with two of the same spell caster again while we remove all the sick spell casting hybrids!"The patch notes so far sound promising but they gutted way too much of what I liked from the original.
>>741012610then why did he cast it? he even speeded up to cast it. I'm not upset.
>>741012805He breathed the fire, he didn’t cast it.
Warrior bros, is arc of might worth it? I feel like I do pretty much the same damage with normal attacks/skills, then a heavy attack as a finisher to downed enemies.
>>741012913His mouth is glowing purple! It applied.
>>741012805drakes cast spells and silencing them prevents that. you seriously never fought that particular drake in the video? it loves to spam meteor and sleep.but the actual answer is to look cool for the trailer
>>741012953That's his breath mate.
>>741012953Yes and breathing fire is not a magic ability for drakes…
>>741011647>Slow turns on ground movement and waiting through slow animationsDD2 is genuinely unplayable for me without mods.
>>741012916Not really, the real mvp is Skyward Sunder
>>741013115No thanks.
>>741013124i never figured out if it was better to run mountain breaker for skyward sunder...
>>741012971I died plenty to casting the spell and getting bullied afterward. I vaguely remember being able to interrupt the fire *with* the spell.>>741013114>>741013108I'm just bad probably. Damn drakes.
>they are adding more skill slotsIt's already an enormous improvement.
>>741013232MB is a bit less universal but better at specific matchups.
This franchise desperately needs a pure dungeon crawling entry, optionally with a list of named characters you can recruit and build relationships with.No lame openworld, just brutally hard dungeons full of unique threats.
is Difficulty Tweaks good to use after the update
>>741013297It is, now give half the classes their daggers back.
>>741013379That was supposed to be DD deep down
>>741011981Nta but there was multiple trailers for DD2. They didn't actually show everything in the very first one. Both Gamescom and TGS happen before DD2DA so it's possible that there will be another trailer before it releases. It's also possible that they might have learned from last time and will try and keep more things hidden. I have my expectations in check however, I'm not expecting a new vocation because they'd likely want to market that but it's still very possible that there's a few things that haven't been shown yet.
>berrypicker thread
>>741012084My guess would be L1+L2 and L1+R2. It's been a while since I've last played DD2 but I don't think "sheath" and "grab" ever changed when pressing the L1 modifier and the player doesn't desperately need those actions available when holding the modifier.
>>741013379No thanks
>>740994743Absolute nonsenseDD had great base game dungeons, they were the best parts of the game. Not that copy paste gatcha shit
>>741014018>Watergods altarGood>Abandoned quarryAbsolute ass>Dukes demesne Meh, shit>CatacombsHorrid>shadowfortOk>Dripstone caveDecent>Soulflayer canyonAbsolute fucking kino>Bluemoon TowerAlright, decent enough >EverfallAlright enough>WitchwoodOnly good for Selene and the unique Golem
The DLC could be free and retroactively make the game near-perfect, but I will not be satisfied unless they bring back layered armor
>>741014659>unless they bring back layered armorI still don't understand why they felt that wasn't worth bringing over.
>>741014590All kino except for Duke’s (shit) and Everfall (Ok)
>>741014725I think they most baffling part is instead of just scaling back the amount of armor slots a bit they basically combined all the slots into an upper and lower half. I at least would have liked separate slots for boots and gloves
>>741014905Yeah, it's fucking terrible.
>>741014905Laziness.
>>741013379Do you want also some crafting and deckbuilding?
>>741014905and Itsuno had the gall to say it allowed for more variation and customization
Is there a height slider in game 2? I like having big waifu warrior pawn in 1
>>741015178it technically did, via warfarer.
>>741014991Actually, a card game in the hub between you and your big titty witch GF would've been cool as well.
>>741015228Yes
>>741014987it seemed like an intentional decision, some of the armor sets looked like they were designed with the layering system in mind, and I believe some information about the early development of the game point to all the armor slots being there initially
>>740984529I may be a sucker but yes. They may not improve the early game but I hope they make something worthwhile in the expansion. I'll pirate the expansion tho, I paid $60 for this game and got a fraction of the value.
>>741015250>technicallywhat metric are you using? Warfarer may have removed vocation restrictions, but you still weren't able to get that robed knight look like you could with mystic knight in the first game.
Please add raping orgeI want full immersion
>12 doors>12 dungeons >12 weapon types (the main 9, plus shield, mace and warhammer) since they merged bow/longbow and shield/magickshieldHm
>>741015610>”its dick expands at the sight of women, Arisen!”
>>741013379Honestly a BBI-like roguelike sounds awesome.
>>741015613Hope one arisen slutmogged
>>741015613>Zodiac's Dogma
>>741015968Translate please?
>mogs dragons dogshit in you're pathhttps://tintodev.itch.io/project-goblin
>>741015502I just mixed an matched stuff across vocations and concluded there was a lot. DD2 tops are essentially presets of DD1 equipment.
>>741016118Falseflag post to smear the dev
>>741016118Embarrassing falseflag
>>741016118>that knockbackbookmarking this
discordbuck has resorted to bringing in randoms to "win" at flaming DD2
>>741015669>SOPPING BONES THAT MOVE ON THEIR OWN
>>741016118Heh, looks pretty fun.
>>741015908>roguelikeNo, please god no. A DD game focused more on dungeons would be good but keep roguelike shit out of this, the purifying system in BBI was bad enough.
>>741016846Purifying system was fun
>>741016846That's just for replay value and you would be forced to use gear/vocations that you wouldn't otherwise.
>>741016905No it wasn't, I will gladly take deliberately placed rewards over RNG.>>741016961I like actual progression and keeping the things I find.
>>741017113RNG dungeon running increases longevity
>>741017313Me deleting your progress every 2 days also increases longevity.
>>741016846it's ok i also hated bbi thought i was doing something wrong but no you really just run around in the same dark dungeon
>>741015178That was not what he meant. In DD1 if you’re being optimal everyone pretty much uses the same armor, hence they made armors vocation locked so that a warrior and fighter will use different armor
>>740984529when the fuck was this announced?i boughted this game when I heard that there probably will be a DLC and got it for $7i havent even beaten DD1, got 4hrs in that one
>>740984529it seems promising. main game was already solid, and if the expansion adds more enemy variety and challenges, it'll probably be worth it. looking forward to it!
>>741017925Of all fucking places, from the recent Nintendo Direct.
>>741018067>Nintendo Directthats why i didnt hear about it till now kek
>>741018067reminder DMC5 got announced at an Xbox show
Fans do what Capcomdon't. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuS4XktjDaYI just don’t get why Capcom refuses to add an official co-op mode atp
>>741018281Multiplayer takes an insane amount of work to restructure code if the game wasn't made with it in mind.
>>741017313I just want well-designed, large dungeons with thoughtfully placed rewards, encounters, traps, and all that. I never understood the appeal of roguelikes and this obsession with needing to do countless runs of a dungeon. Not keeping your rewards makes finding them feel meaningless in the first place. I'm actually sometimes okay with randomly generated dungeons and repeating rooms but that aspect of not keeping your shit is something I'll never like. >>741017442I didn't hate BBI, I actually want more dungeons in DD and the lack of them in 2 was one of my biggest issues. I liked BBI for the fact that it was a cool atmospheric dungeon with more threatening enemies and such, not for the artifact purifying. I really hope that the EX skills are guaranteed to be on certain weapons and that ideally, they're permanently learnable in some way. Either that or maybe you can move them around onto different weapons with forging or something.
>dungeons in base game confirmedFUCKING NICEnow give me 2 new vocations and a hard mode, and I will consider the game fixed and to be the DD2 I wanted
>>741018067>>741018116nintendo ate sony's lunch
If there is a new upgrade path, what would it strengthen?
>>741018443A brother after my own heart. I always wanted a randomly generated dungeon for 2. BBI was very good and its carefully curated design gave it its unique atmosphere, but it got dull after two or three runs. It'd be really damn hard to make sure randomized layouts still looked good and had proper decorative clutter and shit, but I think it'd be good for the game in the long run.And being able to permanently learn upgraded skills would be incredible. Don't lock it to having to equip certain gear. As long as we can toggle the upgrade on and off.
>>741018983i dont care about either
>>741018517I knew all the landslide doorways in batahl dungeons and the one in medusa layer, after descending a ladder to a dead end, were cut content.
>>740984529No but I'll love it anyway because DD is exactly the kind of slop I eat by the bucketful.
Male or Female Thief Pawn, don't care about hires just thematically which is better?
WHERE MOON
>>741019186Love. Maxing out all your gear with this enhancement lowers your stats, but defeating the final boss with it gives you the pawn marriage ending.
>>741019389yeah it was pretty obvious. Makes me wonder what else was cut and didn't make it.
>>740984529nice horn
>>741019559male so you can allah akhbar
>>741019701Listing for Moon dungeon + associated multiplayer mode was found in leaked debug build level select
>>741019852wonder if we'll get that in the DLC. Between the 12 dungeons and the new snow area (that already seems to feature a big castle) it seems like it has enough content already, but I wouldn't say no to a co-op infinite tower thing, or not coop even
>>740996729'TIS WEAK TO FIRE!
DD bros, a catoblepas just flew over my house on it's way to Norgan
>>741001213you know things can be surprises right? The guy directing is the same who made BBI, obviously he knows what made his DLC so beloved.
>>741020195>you know things can be surprises right?not with capcom. I expect that there are still things that haven't been shown, but they will be shown before release for sure
>>740984529>Dragon's dogma: iceborneLol, noDA worked because bitterdick isle was basically one big superdungeon with a ton of cool bosses. This clearly isn't going in the same direction and devs can't make a good open world. Just endless narrow valleys and caves with fuck all in them.That isn't even considering how shit most of the vocations are to play. I'm convinced nobody actually tried playing trickster before putting it in the game.
Shoo shoo doomfag.
>>741017925>Bought it for full price on release>Didn't play it because i wanted to wait for it to get fixed>Tried getting a refund but steam told me "dude you played 2.1 hours and it's been over 3 months sorry">Now that i finally want to play for the patch the game costs like $5i'm slightly mad but i will endure
I wish I could play DD1 for the first time again, man what an experience. I don't even remember DD2 other than having more negative things than good things to say about it. I'll give it a second chance after the performance update.
>>741020348there are supposed to be 12 smaller dungeons scattered across the map (the entire world map not just the dlc)hopefully they're actually dungeons and not like botw shrines or some shit
It's finally happening now for sure
Maybe we don’t need layers back after all…
>capcom still won't let us go to the moon
>>741002936Its better than they make it sound. At the same time it is disappointing in some ways. At the end of the day there's still no other game like it, just fighting a single minotaur is more fun than most games.
>>741021693Just remove the armour restrictions, let people have their pawn be a fighter wearing trickster armour with parts from the thief range. Theres nice stuff its just so restrictive for no reason. The armours are lighter because ligh weight allows faster regen of stamina for using skills, thats it, why shouldnt a warrior be able to wear this stuff, or a mage wear plate if they just want to have more defense at the cost of regen speed.
>>741021690>giant super BBI dungeon with co-op, secrets, raid bosses, randomized encounters each time, all culuminating with a fight in the moon itself fuck... the POTENTIAL.........
>>741022185The armors are balanced around the vocations that can wear them, Trickster armor in particular has absurd defense for its weight. And weight in general is not relevant at all unless your character is giga small
>>741021339thats why I dont buy games on release, you are paying full price to beta testonly game I did it for and it was recently was Crimson Desert and only because that shit was actually fun to watch get updated since it was getting updated so fast
>selling 1/10th of the cut content as a $40 dlcBravo kojima
>>741022185>just remove vocation identity Anon, there is a plethora of classless westernrpg slop for you to indulge this desire in.
What are absolutely good mods for first time.
What are the best nude mods?
What are the best nude loli mods for your first time?
gonna play some DDON today :DS2 so far sucks with the monsters with AIDS, hope it gets better later on
>>740984529How do I removed the motion blur from dark arisen?
>>741015502>mystic knightAaaand there it is. It's always the Mystic Knight Trannies shitting up the thread
>>741016118Isn't this the guy that begs for feedback and is constantly copying dd movesets every thread?
>>741024453>shitting up the threadwhat metric are you using?
>>740984529Nope. So hopefully I'll still enjoy it.
>>740999916DD1 was a good game though. More of a good game is good.DD2 is a bad game.
>>741014905Reminder that Skyrim, yes. Fucking Skyrim has more armor slots.
>>741022441So change that, rebalance it. Shit, skin swapper system so you have to actually have the armour you want to have the stats of, but you can use whatever cosmetic you want over it.>>741022779I wouldnt mind it if there was at least 10 times more armours than this. Everyone and their pawns looks the same because there is such a limited selection of things for each class to wear. The armour layering of DD1 had more customisation than this in that it was less class restrictive and there was more armour slots to work with, I want more variety in my party and creations, not less.
>>741016118hey thanks for the free marketing anon! but please don't dare shitting on DD on my behalf, I love those games
>>741024624Derailing and tantrum haver fags
>>741024828>Derailingwhat metric are you using?
>>740984529Vampires.Hard mode.´BBI MEGADUNGEON bringing back the grind.MORE DLC a la Elden Ring.
>>741025062>vampires in snowy tundrasholy kino
The DDO vocations should've been included, prove me wrong.
>>741025330Half of the DDO vocations were just split up DD1 vocations, the only good ones were the few added in the expansions
>>741009713see>>741024759I genuinely don't even care about Dark Arisen(old) either, I don't know what the obsession with it is. I haven't gotten far into BBI at all since it's boring.
>>740986237>liked og DD>felt rushed and incomplete thoall I've heard about dd2 is bad thingshow is it compared to dd1?
>>741025405Still infinitely better than Wayfarer
>>741007448>Holy shit Nick fixed the mods alreadyANON, DO NOT PLAY WITH ME
>>741007691>>741007745anon is right, that mod doesn't really fix shit. I fell for the hype and got it only to find out it was a huge nothingburger.The only mod that's interesting was the mod that added hundreds of clothing pieces that NPC wear.
>>741025669You don't have to tell me that
>>741007448>>741025730He's right.https://www.nexusmods.com/profile/Nickesponja/mods?sortBy=updatedAt
>>741024783Hey gobbro, where did you look for references regarding enemy AI/code architecture for your game, if you did?
>>741026119this wont survive the august patch
>>741026710I believe I didn't. What I have is a simple state-machine for the base enemy AI, and then every enemy overrides the state methods for their custom behaviors. I recommend looking into boids for the navigation, so enemies move kinda like a unit surrounding the player instead of beelining towards him. webmrel is a good example of how boids can make for some cool behaviors without having to script them: all the goblins are being told to do there is "go to player"
>>741026710btw if you need any sort of help feel free to contact me on twatter (https://x.com/tinto_gamedev) or just drop by the gamedev threads that spawn here on /v/ from time to time
>>740984529Not at all; modders already fixed all the design issues that were retarded years ago and have overhauled monsters movesets. This is a quick cash grab expansion to keep the IP relevant and thats it. We arent even getting new monsters just fucking colored reskins lmao.
>>741027120you're a lying piece of shit, mods barely improve the game
>>741027091Thanks, I already frequent them. you don't run behavior trees at all? do you use weights for decisions?
>>741027307you're fucking retarded. custom difficulty tweaks alone makes this game significantly better.
>>741027356nope nothing of that, just my custom state machine
>>741010731sorceror>limited spells + long casting time + limited casting range + no buffs + no healingposters that say magick archer are crazythe list of spells is diverse, they super versatile, quick to cast, very powerfull and you can hit enemies very far way
>>740984529>Reskins>No new classesHope? I know it's dogshit already
>>741024783ayo Tinto, I was wondering if besides the Daimon boss you have any other iconic DD big enemies like the cyclops or ogre planned? I like to genocide goblins but I like the larger enemies too. Keep up the good work.
>>741025636Lots worseObviously not the combat because it's 15 years later or however the fuck much it was
>>741027307>removed being able to buy the best gear at shop and planted them into the World>removed Niggers>added custom vocations and old vocations back>more active skills and custom skills>harder enemies>enemy redesigns with new movesets >fixed the copy and paste enemy spawns giving you more variety on travels>awesome weapon and armour designs; vanilla gear in the game was absolutely garbage aesthetic wise>lolis restored>shitton of pawn tweaksYou can only go so far because the characters and story are still dogshit and cannot be fixed nor will this expansion do anything other than add some dungeons with RNG loot. Thankfully 90% of this thread realizes DD2DA wont be worth shit.
>>741027389>dude now everything takes longer to killhow many hours did you spend tweaking the game to make it feel just as random balance wise?>>741027656>story is still shit>music is still shit>enemy AI is still shit>world is still shit>game still looks like shit>pawns still annoying
>>741027771Thanks for repeating what I already said. Lmao
>>741027632yeah sure! If you don't mind spoilers, those are the bosses I have planned for act 1:big armored turtle, DDON catoblepas style piloted by some goblinsbig invulnerable skeleton hero + liche that's controlling itbandit boss that's piloting a griffinminotaur, bigger than the one in DD2goblin king carried by a bunch of goblins, kinda like picrel
>>741024156>hope it gets better later onhahaaaa
>>741028059is that a yes or a no... :(
>>741007554>>741027307console plebs detected>>741023316Unofficial Dragon's Dogma 2 PatchSimple Difficulty TweaksDullahanBestiaryEnemy Resistance OverhaulDurnehviirLenient stagger and exhaustionWeaponlordBalanced AugmentsWeapon Swap ReduxEquipment Stats OverhaulBetter Monster InfightingWild Loot - UpdatedImproved Crystal ShopsMenu HotkeysBetter UI All-In-OneClear Effect DescriptionsMouse Wheel Movement Speed Grand Cruise ControlProper Camera Controls for PCCamera Tweaks Unintentional Movement ManagerUnofficial Dragons Dogma 2 Texture PatchTasteful Weapon RedesignsShield and Mantle Clipping FixSensible Dark Fantasy ArmorsAdjusted Lantern ShapeFake Spotlight - Rimlight DisablerOxcarts Journey ReduxIraklisClean Light Reshade HDR-SDRGraphics Suite LiteCrowd Density OverhaulEmote DogmaDD2 Save Manager
this community has the worst orbiters
>>741028006Cool I'm looking forward to those, I hope the demo will come out soon
>>741028164It's a no anon. DDON uses it's story as a means t introduce gold/infected/whatever reskins of enemies with some annoying gimmick like reduced stagger or aids buildup.
>>741028219I have more mods than that installed, it's all barely a bandaid and you didn't even list the important mods you fucking dumbass
>>741028357most probably next week, not later than the 21st. Hope you like it anon
Is there a mod that straight up reduces enemy encounters? The world barely feels real with how much shit there is outside a city gate.Bonus points if it makes the variety a bit better with what enemies DD2 already has.
>>741028413>it's all barely a bandaidfalseit completely transforms the experience>you didn't even list the important modsnice try anyway liar, but I didalong with SDT, these are objectively the most important mods:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP1SBel6huAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJCh4zaJmqEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxppPfgfe7ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcvNsB34fjI
>>741028792>>you didn't even list the important modsthe one that fixes the chargen and the ones that actually add new gear to the game you dumbass>muh trailerthose gameplay mods are fucking useless, the game is almost exactly the same without them
>>741028889>the one that fixes the chargenI am not faggot that plays games for their barbie systems you tranny>the ones that actually add new gear to the game you dumbassthere's already plenty of gear in the base game faggot>those gameplay mods are fucking useless, the game is almost exactly the same without themnot really, the vocations are substancially more versatile and the enemies are far deadlier and trickier to deal with
>>741029421>I am not faggotESL with no creativity detected >there's already plenty of gear in the base game faggotshit taste confirmed>not really, the vocations are substancially more versatile and the enemies are far deadlier and trickier to deal withyou are fucking dogshit at video games and just like wasting even more of your time. those gameplay mods change nothing for the better.
>>741029759>no uwhatever you agp homosexualI am going to update some of the mods play DD2 for the night :)
