Games haven’t gotten worse, you’ve gotten older, and games are no longer meant for you
Nostalgia tards are a plague. I regularly play games made before my time (born 1996) and for completely different cultures. The sentence "I grew up with x" is such an empty platitude. As if they can only enjoy whatever crap was put in front of them as a child. Oh wait, that's a disappointing number of actual people.
>>740995271Gaming has gotten worse and that’s okay. Everything good goes to shit eventually. I learned it’s okay to let things go and move on
>>740995271>plastic garbage :|>plastic garbage, 90s :O
>>740995271Nostalgiafags are retarded, but even without nostalgia everything was unironically better back then, including video games. I grew up with a Sega Genesis and later a Playstation. Twenty years later I'm finding NES, SNES, and Master System games I have no nostalgia for that I've enjoyed sinking hours into and get way more invested into than most of the modern slop released today.
>>740995523A lot of people have shitty lives, and this is their cope.Personally, I believe that nostalgia is too dangerous to be used as such. Once you are 30 nostalgia can reach the point when it can drive you to suicide.
>>740995271Most kids aren't even playing traditional video games anymore, they just want mobile slop and roblox
>>740995271>and games are no longer meant for youtoo bad, i'm gonna keep playing them and you can't stop me
Are you millennial crybabies gonna whine some more about how McDonalds aren't as colorful as when you were a kid?
>>740995271I just play more intelligent games now like strategy and city buildingthe kids can have the shooty fightan games
>>740995271Nah, in general gaming has definitely gotten worse with being overly expensive, filled with MTX, pushing story over gameplay and just generally being derivative but using flashy graphics to attract kids.The only ones that aren't really doing that are Nintendo and indies but indies are derivative of Nintendo games anyway.
>>740995909Yes.
>>740995745The 90s were never plastic garbage at all. It was mostly pill heads and mass produced music with video games being the most experimental media out there. The 80s was floods of plastic crap and then the 2010s with funkofaggots making a comeback
>>740995271if theyre not meant for me then why are they only remaking games that i played when i was a child?
>>740995909Can we actually talk about that for a second? Because there was a certain degree of whimsy when it came to McDonalds. I mean, you've probably seen those little coin donation boxes that they have right? They used to look like these and made the act of donating actually fun for a small child who would just ask for any small change to do it.
>>740996079The solution in both cases is direct action, which is why I make video games in my spare time, and commit civil disobedience.
>>740996104Maybe play the other 98% of video game releases instead of the 2% that are remakes.
>>740995271Gaming has gotten worse and the "modern audience" they're made for doesn't exist.You need to come to terms with this and stop getting a faggot.
>>740996104For the people that now are children and haven’t experienced those games?Are you really asking why you’re consuming the same media you were as a child? You’re mentally stunted.
If games today weren't shit they wouldn't be spending so much effort delisting old games people buy instead only to make dogshit demakes of them. Reality denies your statements.
>>740995701Is that why you keep referencing the same two or three games while ignoring the 20 to 30 new titles? I didn't know not a single game has ever flopped in the past. Dumb fuck. Leave the board.
>>740996106It's not a corporations job to save lives or fund anything beyond their shareholders bank accounts.
>>740996128Alright pretty based
>>740995701>gaming has gotten worse
>>740996173They weren't made for them, they can fuck off and stick to their designated zoomerslop.
>>740996194what new titles? list it
>>740995271I'm still going to play the games that I like, fuck off lol.
>>740996184The fact that Microprose was able to return and start publishing a bunch of AA game kind of proves that people want the sort of stuff made in the 2000's. If modern gaming was so great this market wouldn't exist.
>>740996241They were. They were also made for people like you, i.e. manchildren that refuse to grow up.
>>740996217thats not being discussed
>>740995271Only western games have gotten worse. The 7th gen of consoles was a fluke in that western games were better than japanese games. Now we are back to normal and a lot of people who started playing games on the xbox 360 are crying "what happened to CoD, Gears, and Halo they all suck now gaming is dead!". But if you love japanese games it is much better now. Sega, capcom, and even konami and snk are making a comeback.
>>740995271games have absolutely gotten worse
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>>740996106Because colors cost more money. Grayscale/Low sat is much cheaper.
>>740996217They still have the donation boxes to this day, they're just regular boxes so that's not really an argument. Not to mention they could have just kept that money to themselves if they really wanted to in for a little more profit.But no, they just removed it.
>>740996368true. Explains why zoomers aren’t nostalgiafagging nearly as much as soilennials
>>740996292Big truth. Look at how quick concord highguard died. People are sick of that bullshit. The entropy has reached it's peak.
>>740995271>Nostalgia porn videos
>>740996337I'm not so sure about that, if anything it seems like the Japanese are adopting western trends such as using Unreal Engine 5 with the same pre-made assets and adding brown people to everything.
>>740996274Elden Ring. Silksong. BG3. Cyberpunk 2077. E33. Against the Storm. The Last Spell. All games released within the last 5 years that literally did not exist in the past. Games like Factorio and Terraria are vastly different today to when they were released. Meanwhile what you stupid niggers think was better.
>>740995271imagine having such a fragile sense of self worth that you think about losing your identity regarding whether or not ads appeal to your or notI still play games and find things to like about gaming because I like video games. Faggot
tbf, I like old culture because the world was more masculine and less retarded back then. It's not just about "me childhood = better". I like stuff that was made upwards of a century before I was born.
>>740996409Nah, zoomer shit just sucked. Even they're going back to millennial shit because it was much higher quality in general.
>>740996470explain why i like shit from the 90s so much then. I was born in 93
Nostalgiafags should actually be hunted for sport. Embracing remakes is the opposite of being a nostalgiafag, by the way. Thinking the janky piece of shit made and released 20 years ago is preferable to a competently made remake is being a nostalgiafag.
>>740996431I think genre saturation probably plays a big part in why modern gaming feels so bland. Too much shit gets pushed out and is competing for your money and attention. All whilst still competing with the games of yesteryear they were probably based on. 'More of the same' can work as a product but only up to a certain point and only if the price is right. If it is a GaaS that only makes things worse in the end since regardless of genre it is competing against literally everything else for your time.
>>740995909>it's good that everything has become the same generic sterilized slop
>>740995796a friendly reminder to play Saturn games as well, there are some great experiences to be had
>>740996470Yeah because the stuff geared towards Millennials by and large was not made by their demographic. The young people who took the reigns of not only the game industry but nearly everything else besides politics put us on the path we are on today. I can only hope new generations learn from it and to some extent it seems like they’re avoiding similar pitfalls in life when it comes to stuff like divorce rape at least so maybe there’s hope in other areas as well.
>you're not getting great replaced by low IQ third worlders by an evil power structure that wants to eradicate people like you, you're just old!!Wow great point retard thanks for wasting everyone's time with your inane rambling.
>>740996529Because it was better?
>gaming was le heckin better>gaming is totally worse today objectively durrr durrr
>>740995271>AI videos about nostalgic advertisement are making people emotional
>>740996608Only people approved of by the globohomo mafia are allowed to produce anything for public consumption. You know this.
>>740996610Nah dude we actually always had insane apes trying to decapitate people. You are just getting older.
>>740996529You were born just early enough to have experienced the 90's stuff as hand-me-downs whilst also experiencing the 2000's stuff. Any later and you probably would have been too young to have encountered the stuff in its prime.
>>740996551When they tell you that you'll miss out on things if you don't play when they say you win by simply not playing those games at all.
>>740996443>Japanese are adopting western trends such as using Unreal Engine 5UE and reusing assets is how japan got ahead of the west. RGG can make a new yakuza a year by reusing stuff while R* needs 10 years to make horse balls shrivel. It is a huge waste of time and talent. Ace Combat 7 and 8 look great and both use unreal, if you know what you are doing it is a good engine. Meanwhile 343 and CDPR have been dicking around with their own propriety engine for years only to give up on it and go to unreal anyway. For the last 10 years or so Japan has been making games faster for less money and they typically look better and are more fun to play. We are getting a new Resident Evil basically every year and they are really popular the series was declared dead after RE6. Things have flipped since gen 7 it is undeniable when you watch stuff like the SGF and all the most heavy hitter games were from asia. If MS and Sony weren't around to subsidize them western games would be as good as dead with a few exceptions.
>>740996529Despite how it's named there's an overhang for each decade as it gradually transitions into the next so the 90s philosophy went to say about 2003 ish.I'd say the youngest you could be born and still identify with 90s shit is 95.
People who treat nostalgia as an inherently bad thing are just fucking retards who buy into the liberal view of history. The believe that the world just becomes better naturally as time goes on because of "progress." They believe today MUST be better than yesterday simply because it is happening later. That's not how it works at all though, which is why nostalgia exists at all. Fact is that the world can only be good if we make it good, and nostalgia is an important emotion to point to the things which were done in the past to create goodness in the world. These people would prefer us just sit idly and let the world crumble because magic progress will take care of everything.
>gaming got worse>them old vidya industry sure knew what they were doing
>>740995523nostalgiatards don't even consume media from back then. if they did, then they'll know that the woke stuff was always there
>>740996576It's on my bucket list, alongside Dreamcast.
>>740995271Kinda weird how we now need remakes of older games as a crutch though.
>>740995909Better than McDonald???
>gaming got worse>I want to heckin go back!
let's see.. batman arkham asylum or .. whatever the fuck that batman coop game was yeah totally just nostalgia and totally not that games as a whole have gotten soulless and uninspired unimaginative and boring
>>740995271I've destroyed shodan without using ice pick tools ten minutes ago. Game was better than whatever I've played this year. Have some annelid worms, I don't use exotic weapons.
>>740996079Because the truth is they can’t do anything about it. Having strong opinions about something doesn’t do anything against billionaires paying politicians to let in brown people. Just like how “voting with your wallet” hasn’t made gaming better either because BlackRock investors have a much bigger say than anyone else. Your universe and your opinions are equivalent to an old man screaming at the sky
>>740996961Exotics aren't very good, but it may be worth investing a point for the crystal.
>>740996848Pretty much everyone suffered for a time during the transition to 3D. But DR2 specifically was acknowledged as a 'WTF are you doing' moment since it had nothing to do with the original. That being said it is also one of the first instances of a game mode that would later be used in ASSFAGGOTS games were you have a base infinifinitly producing bot control basic infantry marching at the enemy base.
>yeah totally just nostalgia and totally not that games as a whole have gotten soulless and uninspired unimaginative and boring
>>740995271>Games haven’t gotten worse, you’ve gotten older, and games are no longer meant for youNah, you can still go back and play old games.
>>740996079They don't give a shit because right-wing bullshit is objectively wrong. The reduced crime rate correlates with the import of migrants and the sudanese attacker was arrested by police.
>>740997094>lil bro can't look past the color filter
>>740995909This is so pathetic.>Goyslop has fallen... Millions must die
>>740996337>Only western games have gotten worse.Modern Japanese games are garbage and they're basically just make stuff for the West now.
>>740997141>blud will now say every game today looks the same because of UE5
>>740997094All those games are better than anything that came out 2024-2025-2026
>>740996194>>740996445Enjoy your slop, you retard
>>740997024I'm marine and we don't play with macdonald looking toys. Semper Fi! Finished the story with ~330 prisms so there's something real fucked up with the balance of the game when you go heavy.
>>740997141If your game can't visually stand out amongst the slop, what makes it any different from the slop? Prior to the PS4/XBone era, most games had very distinct visual styles that let you identify them at a glance. This push for muh realistic graphics and painting everything grey and brown is a bastatdization of visual identity.
>>740997179What's their player count?>no no no you see games are not meant to be played by anyone>the measure of a good game is my stinky farts
>>740996445>All games released within the last 5 yearsNow look at the line up for ANY year between like 96 and 07
>>740997136There's a visible trend reversal in the picture you just posted, you brown shit eating retard.
>>740997230>What's their player count?NTA but that's irrelevant outside of competitive multiplayer games. A game like Super Mario Bros. 3 or Crash Bandicoot 2 don't suddenly become shit because nobody is playing them at this moment in time.
>>740997230>hurr durr what's the player count for a game that came out 20 years???idk, but the total player count is probably higher than anything from 2024, 2025, 2026
>>740997298Delusional nostalgiapig.
>>740997230What's the player count of Concord?
>>740995523Based Nazo no Murasamejou enjoyerIf it wasn't for emulation I would of missed out on a bunch of retro kino
Personally I think part of the problem is that limitations bred creative thinking in working around said limitations. Once we hit a certain point where engines were pre-packaged with everything and no concern was being given to the hardware it had to run on that devs got lazy and as a result we ended up seeing the limitations of their creativity. Equally gaming became big business and more things are being made as products first now rather than as something with an actual vision for them out of passion. Yet despite that the big corporations outright refuse to actually create stuff that has specific market appeal and instead go for the mythical 'modern audience' for whatever reason. The result is just bland or boring shit that no one asked for.
>>740997287>3D collect-a-thon platformer is peak gaming
>>740997335You are just a retarded zoomer.>m-muh nostalgia!Literally just go back and play old games and see for yourself. Doesn't matter if you have played them before or not.
>>740997390>3D pronouns simulator is the peak of gaming!
>>740997419What are my options? Shallow and primitive ARPGs? 3D platformers? 2D platformers? Spoiled for choice!
>>740995271>games are no longer meant for youThey're not made for anyone anymore apparently.In fact, it's more like they are trying to create the audience (and this is reinforced by Blackrock interview where he talks about forcing behaviors)
>>740997450Damn rightoids really can’t meme
>>740997485As opposed to what? Life service trash? Gacha trash?
Technological innovation peaked and stagnated at some point and now all we have is increasingly shittier returns thanks to devs pushing 'better graphics' despite hitting the optimal point some years ago. So you no longer have any wow factor involved in experiencing new games.
"Products" = market logic, private enterprise, trend following, which implies a much faster lifecycle than everything else and visible shifts in a matter of only a few years, serving as a good set of markers for the periodThe things you're nostalgic for that aren't subjected to market logic are probably still there, you can visit them instead of just voicing the sentiment, they're just full of homeless people now
How do you retards explain the very large amount of zoomers who weren't alive for the peak of entertainment/video games who are playing old games and pretty much all of them say they're better than new games. It seems pretty damning to the case of someone trying to argue that video games aren't getting worse.
>>740997634>Technological innovation peaked and stagnated at some pointIt all peaked during the 7th gen. Literally no game has been or even tried to be "innovative" since.
>>740995796Nostalgiafag with self identity issues spotted
>>740997692I haven't kept up with the various gens, so please remind me which console is 7th Gen.
>>740995523Wait til you sprout your first pubes then talk
>>740997237Did PoE2 exist then? Did BG3 exist then? Did Project Diablo 2 or any of the extensive mod overhauls for the base game exist then? That was also the start of DOTA's rise to fame, and you will say now MOBAs are cancer when it was a genre pioneered by gamers for gamers.
>>740995271That's pure corpo/zoomer copium. Modern games are objectively worse. I don't know what fucking happened, but sometimes around 2010 every fucking dev lost the ability to actually properly pace their games. Probably because of the open world garbage influx.
Hm? Games are still great, what most people complain about is buying shitty corposlop and then crying about it being shit. Good games require small teams and clear direction, and doing that with 200 employees over 6 years is impossible. Even many studios are realizing that making such games is retarded.
>>740995271Yes, tard, that's why every zoomer that just played the Gothic 1 remake calls it the GOTY.That's why there are 500 remakes of old games made at any moment, cause those old games suck ackshually.NPC dipshit.
>>740997773>>or any of the extensive mod overhauls for the base game exist then? >zoomie has never heard of median xl
>>740995271>start PS2 game>OOPS we have to update your system for 10 hours or so>OOPS you better download the latest boatload of patches>OOPS you better have your internet on for this single player>How about these skins? And level up bonuses? And ebin mounts? And B@D@$$ weapons??>Enjoy your third person walking simulato-Oh. But seriously, that argument is retarded and falls apart quickly. By that logic I shouldn't be able to enjoy old games because I'm too old for ALL games, right?
>>740997715PS3, 360, Wii generation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6fDjN8iY54
>>740997094GOD I'm so glad we're past the point when games looked like that and all FPSs were shitty WW2 shooters. That was the one of the most boring and lame genres in the history of gaming. Good fucking riddance.
>>740995271We dont even get new games anymore.We get the same stuff from back then rehashed and dumbed down for the masses.How can anybody claim that gaming hasnt gotten worse, while also championing an industry that is at this point this lame and crippled that they have to reheat games from my childhood?The remake focus straight up proves that things used to be better. Publishers agree, the players seem to agree too.
>>740997818Is today's version better or worse than 1.0? Understand that when you say gaming was better in the past, you must erase all progress and updates made across all that time till today.
>>740995271Nah, when the rare actually good game releases I enjoy it just as much I used to.PS: people are immune to your lying at this point cuz you overdid it and lost all credibility
>>740995271games are literally worse and there's nothing you can say that will change thisthey are so much worse that they're incapable of making new games and half of all releases are remaster remake slop, and most of the other half flopretard
>>740997773Far more than POE or BG3 existed back then lil-zoomie. Again, literally look up any year between 96 and 07. You didn't have to wait 5 (FIVE) fucking years for just a handful of half decent games.
Elden Ring, Silksong or E33 mog all uncslop
>>740997850Ok yeah then I definitely agree. That was the last gen with proper innovation. 9th Gen (I think, PS5 right?) arguably had the move to SSD but ultimately all that amounts to is removing a bottleneck on file load speeds. Which is significant but not in the manner that affects anything else besides loading times. But we hit that point where tech was plateauing and things should have settled down. But instead of devs getting used to a new baseline they just threw optimisation out the window for some reason.
>>740997975take driver 3 outta that picture. It started all the bot shill bullshit
>>740997913You undestand that if you say gaming is better now you have to include all the progress made in the past. So off course gaming is better now, because tonnes of really good games have already come out. Now, how many games from 2026 have you played?
>>740995271No, gaming is actually dead. Webt frim 200 aersome games a year to 1 MAYBE. That is DEAD
>>740997975>annual sports slop is peak gamingYou can stop now.
>>740995271>games are no longer meant for youSo they're worse? I like games to be good...
>>740997179As someone whose most active gaming years were exactly during that era, I can say with 100% certainty that they definitely weren't. Everytime I try playing some old gray and brown game like that I can barely endure more than 20 mintutes before I start feeling sick. Not to mention almost all of those games had some kind of ubislop gameplay where it was just checking off items in a list.
>>740997850I grew up with NES games. 7th gen was the peak. I would say maybe graphics got better but they're used for mocap and ultra realistic troglodytes instead of going crazy with unique art styles.
No offense but if you're still obsessed with the same things you loved when you were 10 you need to do some growing up. There's nothing wrong nostalgia or keeping your inner child alive, but if your interests stopped expanding before you even became an adult you're just gonna end up a really small and boring person.
>>740997975PS2/XBox era was fucking amazing, but I would argue PS3/360 era surpassed it in everything but sheer quantity of offerings. That being said thanks to backwards compatibility that more or less shared the era anyway.
>>740998083Is playing games you have never played before not expanding your interests regardless if they are new or old?
>>7409980827th Gen addressed loading speeds and render distances compared to the previous gen. Along with generally stable FPS though it was the generation that sort of brought in the 'buttery smooth 30FPS' shit. It was probably the last real gaming gen though.
>>740995909Well do you think that its an improvement that they dont even care about that anymore?I remember many small things that were around specifically for children that have been removed and replaced with nothing. Especially in towns.
As an oldman in his 90s, I've live long enough to tell you that, that...I forgot what I was going to say. I'm going to need to get some sleep.
Been gaming for coming up to 30 years now. Shit games have existed in all eras. But the development for decades now has been to focus on graphics and gameplay suffered under it extremely. If it wasn’t for the rise of indies and big publishers trying to ape them jealous of their successes, we’d be looking at even more gray, homogenized slop for normies to praise since it doesn’t challenge them at all.
>buys nothing but western AAA goyslop>why are video games so bad now???suffer normalfaggot
>>740998083Nah fuck off. I started lifting, went to college, got a job at netflix, folded 1000 cranes, married the annoying love of my life, traveled the world, joined mensa, play board games once a month with my friends, made some decent money on the stock market, and whatever bullshit you want to spin as interesting and complex.Good games are still the best and I just want to make enough money on this bull run to quit my job and get back to playing games while raising kids instead of working like a chump.
>>740997975>sportsslop>capeshit>movie licensed games There are like 5 good games at most in this entire list.
>>740998295>There are like 5 good games at most in this entire list.Apparently there is only 5 good games for the past 5 years. So looks like 2004 wins that one regardless.
>>7409979751998 mogs.2004 was already too close to the downfall of vidoegames.You can see all this western dogshit creeping up there already.
>>740998338Maybe if you only care about AAA slop. Anybody who actually likes games has stopped paying attention to AAA shit a long time ago.
>>740998281I haven't bought a single western AAA game since 2012.
>>740998083absolute nonsense.
>>740998408>y-yeah but what about SILKDONG! yeah but what about super metroid.
>>740998102ps2 gen had both more and better games you are retarded.ps3 is when we entered the current garbage age ofo videogames. you straight up cant even complain about the state of the industry now if you champion the ps3 era.
>>740995271>Games haven’t gotten worsebullshit
>>740995271All the interesting experimental ideas went towards low budget game developers. The AAA industry are just trying to make photorealistic interactive movies. It's their way of "maturing the medium". Everyone one of them is grounded on realism and to me, it's oversaturated and boring now. That's what makes it shit.It's not because I got older, it's because the industry because a daycare for retards.
>>740998031I'm not the one restricting my timeline to only the past and claim absolutely everything about today is bad. Presumably you cut yourself off at least 15 years of the modern video game industry. You placed that restriction on yourself. The Factorio today is world's apart from when it was released. The NMS today is world's apart from when it was released. The CP2077 today couldn't be more different to when it was released. And on top of titles being made better or saved as more updates roll out, in actual non-nostalgiafag reality, good new games are still being released.2026? I played this year's version of PoE2. Just last year? E33, Silksong, Blue Prince, Hades 2, and last year's version of PoE2. Presumably you played nothing, so I don't know why you're still here in the video game board.
>>740995271That's an interesting idea but the millennials here are marketed to a lot, in vidya and in general
>>740995909McDonalds has fallen…
>>740998486Why didn't you buy project natal? Why didn't you buy and donate to molyneux' games? This is why we have no innovation in videogames anymore
>>740996445sad list
>>740995271>and games are no longer meant for youSo what, I have 100s if not 1000s of games I can still enjoy, you can keep all your modern slop.
>>740998464Naw. PS2 definitely had more games and early PS3 titles were weak, but once that gen found its stride we got plenty of quality titles.
>>740997754People who can't argue always resort to that sad deflection
>>740998650>highly varied list of games from action to RPGs to strategy>sad listSure. And according to you the golden age of gaming is Spyro, Crash, and Conker's Bad Fur Day.
>>740996445>Elden RingGood, but sekiro and BB were better>SilksongGood not great>BG3Act 3 kills it>Cyberpunk 20776 years of patches and its still bad>E33The actual GOTD so far>Against the Stormroguelike slop>The Last Spellroguelite slopWeak list
>>740995271https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe_-A0i5G4w
>>740998494You are only limiting your horizons by dismissing the past. >Presumably you played nothingThis year I've played in no particular order so far>Fallout Tactics >Mega Man X4>Mega Man X>Mega Man ZX>Gran Turismo 2>Front Mission 4>Sega Rally Championship 2 >Titan Quest>V Rising inb4>n-no you have to play the latest slop or the current patch of POE (which is still just inferior Diablo 2 mind you) otherwise it doesn't count! Why? There is nearly an infinite games out there I haven't played before, why do I have to restrict myself to only the most recent stuff?
>>740998749it never got close to the ps2.most of all the ps2 never had to hit its stride like that.
zoomer here, i enjoy games as old as NES stuff more than whatever is being released nowadays so you're wrong
I don’t miss the old days at all
>>740995909>no bros its good that everything is the exact same gray and grey corporate shit, its good that any sense of whimsy or creating family friendly spaces is deadYou're the kinda fag that complains about third spaces not existing then says this kind of shit
>>740998974it was also soulless and corporate back then, you were just too retarded to see it
>>740995271>Happy HolidayWhy is there a certain holiday that even AI is too scared to utter the name of?
>>740998494>Factorio today is world's apart from when it was releasedSpace age actively sucks, direction it took is wrong and i would take release state factorio over what we have now any day.>NMS today is world's apart from when it was releasedIt really isn't, they polished it more sure but all it become is polished turd.>CP2077 today couldn't be more different to when it was releasedIt is literally same as it was released only bugfixed into playable state, another case of polished turd. Oh and they axed initial progression systems balancing all fun out of hacking and other "broken" builds>PoE2Directionless abortion that doesn't know what it wants to be and how to get there.>E33Babes first jrpg with the absolute worst implementation of active defense in turn based combat.>SilksongOverhyped 2d souls shit, same as HK it was okay.>Blue PrinceRoguelike puzzles are peak retardation and you are retard for listing it as a good game.>Hades 2Another shitty roguelike slop and the series that killed Supergiant on top of it. Their best game will forever be Pyre by the looks of it.
I enjoy old games and new games, I had a blast with RE9 and E33 recently, then I booted up dungeon keeper 2 and had another blast. Being jaded and hating everything gets you nowhere
>>740999034Based
>>740995271Old thing literally always is better though. Besides, zoomers are quite literally using our nostalgia with the remakes/remasters. New games are so bad and shit and creativity is dying out, so they have to go for games that already exist while saying that you're nostalgia blinded while they are playing a demake of a game from 2000s. Who really is blinded by nostalgia here?
>>740998873>This year I've played in no particular order so farGood taste anon, keep having fun don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
>>740999034loving everything gets you the same place
>>740998873I don't dismiss the past. You dismiss the present. The whole argument from the OP is dismissal of the present. >POE (which is still just inferior Diablo 2 mind you)This is soooo beyond dismissive and delusional you'd make politicians blush with how dishonest you are. D2 has no end game and Blizzard artificially inflated the length of the game by tacking on three difficulties of the same acts. Crafting doesn't exist. Itemization is shallow. And the gameplay feel is inferior in every way. You very, very clearly don't even play the game. Why the fuck are you speaking with authority on it?>why do I have to restrict myself to only the most recent stuff?Once again, YOU are the ones restricting yourself against only the most recent. YOU nostalgiafags are putting a restriction on a point in time in which you start to deem ALL games to be good or bad.
>>740999173>nostalgiafagsThe only game that I listed that I played as a kid is Mega Man X. How am I nostalgic for any other game in that list?
>>740999101>three 2D platformer slop of the same series>good tasteNostalgiafags are genuinely braindead.
>>740998626Why didn't you stop the bullet that when into Archduke Franz Ferdinand.
a lot of retards here are really baffled by people playing old games, like they think if you like something old it's because you played it as a kid and you can't possibly go back and play something that's older than youmusic, book and movie fags don't have this mindset, but it's really common with "gamers" for some reason
>>740995271>games are no longer meant for youYeah no shit, fag. Vidya, and entertainment in general, was hitting peak cynicism in my formative years ( born in´86 ) and has since done a full 180. The kids/teens movies of my days had nudity, cursing, nihilistic anti-heros and humor with an edge sharper than a razor. And it was all targeted, not situational. None of this "well i guess that happened" and more "look at this fucking retard getting punched in the face." At least some indies are still making that kind of game. Some.
>>740999026To be clear, your example of peak gaming. 3D collect-a-thons.
>>740995701>countless mods and source ports for old games>can basically download any game you want for free>countless indies making games in niche genres that were completely dead>let me focus on the same 2- 3 AAA slop games forever, le gaming is le dead, my grifter youtube parasocial friend said so
>>740999282Technically X and ZX are different Series' but a dumb zoomer wouldn't understand.
>>740995271There was alot of low quality trash being pumped out in the 90s and early 2000s too but when it comes to modern games specifically I find them incredibly exhausting to play. And I think it's all the unnecessary extra shit that's shoved into games.late 90s/early 2000s game:>buy game>put disc/cart in>press new game on title screen>immediately starts>focus is on core gameplay mechanics>you go through a bunch of levels with a story to tie it all up>game is a complete package, once you see the ending there are often still things to do: unlockables, different endings, MP modesmodern gaming:>buy digital license to play game>game is 140GB of download even if you bought the physical version>you need to download 20GB of updates to launch the game>single player game wants to connect online for some reason>ToS popup, new DLC ad popup, ad for ingame currency discount, discord server ad popup>finally find new game option on the main menu because it's designed like banking software or some shit>you now have 2 pages asking you about your difficulty preferences>game finally starts>30min of barely interactive shit you have to sit through where you occasionally push left stick up and press X to trigger next sequence>writing is dogshit and game filled with diversity where it doesn't belong and distracts from the setting>game finally lets you play for a bit>non stop interruptions from character never shutting up accompanying you or talking over the radio>game filled with pointless RPG mechanics so now you have to always mash X to pick up garbage off the ground for the crafting system>"you picked up a new weapon press start to go to equip it on the status menu">there's an ad for buying gear with a premium currency you pay with real money>game is 45+hrs long and has a season pass and roadmap planned
>>740996240What SC2 clone is this?
>>740995909I dont personally care but it should concern you that slop made for children is increasingly grey and corporate because it is pretending to be real food for adults. This also happened to videogames where playstation transformed into hbo and started to pretend like their shitty mcdonalds slop was real art. This is why I have respect for nintendo while thinking all their games are toddler shit, they aren't confused about what they are, their games are for children and parents who want to play games with their kids.
>>740999352Books are honestly about the only place this doesn't happen, and even then, it still does in places with curated exposure like book lists in school. When you get fed a diet of "beowulf, heart of darkness, chaucer, tale of two cities" etc, and told these are the classics and best books you need to read, for that short period of time, you start feeling like old books are complete garbage except for the story where the guy farts on the other guy and gets a hot poker up the ass for it.Don't even try to pretend this shit doesn't happen with music and movies. Both those mediums are routinely sorted by decade, of which everyone gets filtered by earlier ones if they weren't exposed heavily as a child.In no goddamn world are many teenagers listening to beatles, elvis, and the doors, and going "fuck yah this shit rocks compared to robin thicke" They're telling their parents to turn that diarrhea off.
>>740995271There are games that are like made for me, just not that many.They don't have that DEI crap though, if that's what you meant.
>>740999642>SC2 cloneIt came out 2 years before SC2 lmao
>>740995271Right just don't download any of your old games or anything old for that matter to believe this lie
>>740999759I was fully expecting the guy to get sucked in to the fan.
>>740996892Is that what you woketards need to tell yourselves?
>>740999352As someone who grew up with old games they are almost all gimped, ugly shit with bad or poorly thought out mechanics. In most cases nostalgia really is necessary to rank any pre ps2 era game alongside a modern one. This isn't really the case anymore because post ps2 the main blocker was just the talent and imagination of the developer. Now that hardware has completely stagnated there is absolutely nobody saying that it's harder to enjoy 10 year old games.
Is there an urgency to play the latest slop right now or something? Will it stop existing in 10 years or something? trick question, obviously all the GaaS slop will stop existing lmfao
>>741000075Why do Americans have such disproportionately small hands? They always look so silly.
>>741000075It's called "cult of the new"It's a necessary financial evil
>>740999565Skill issue. In realty, games are now infinitely more accessible thanks to fast broadband speeds, large storage space, emulators, steam sales and the decline of consoles and their shitty exclusives. Nowadays you can play 99% of all games ever released without having to spend anything or even leave your home. Compare that to the humiliation ritual of the past where you had to physically search for and buy games and disk and spend $60 for the privilege every single time (that's if a physical copy was available at all). Not to mention the fact that you had to buy a new shitty locked down console if you happened to be unlucky enough that the game you wanted to play wasn't on your platform. Oh and you had to pay a ridiculous amount of money just to be able to save your games lol. As a kid in the 90s I could've only DREAMED of the situation we are right now.
>>741000075it's literally all FOMO shit, the average retard is a social media addict so they have to consoooom the newest product so they understand memes and discussions when the algorithm forces it onto them
>>741000029>As someone who grew up with old games they are almost all gimpedSurely these games were new when you grew up though. Or are you just making shit up.
It's kinda sad how many games are coming out these days compared to how many of them are actually good. Feels like people haven't learned anything from the decades of video games in just simple game design and instead most are either shitty slop or some talentless movie director wannabes hot take of the week
>>740995701/v/ forces themselves to participate in the humiliation ritual of buying AAA games in the current year. But if you suggest they could simply play indie games instead, they spaz out and whine about how indie is tranny and communist.You really do it to yourselves, you choose to buy slop, you choose to believe that the next EA or Activision game could be good and every time you will get burned. It's your own fault.
>>740995271I didn't intend to only play old games, it was crypto and then AI faggotry which made buying new pc parts stupid expensive. At the same time so many devs switched to UE5, my GTX1080 can't keep up any more.
>>741000316get a job
>>741000335Fuck you.
>>740999642>blizztroons whenever xhe sees a game not made by blizzard
>>740997136I guess crime doesn't happen when the police do nothing about it.They're cooking the books, dumbass.
>>741000128>gaming is better than ever because...convenience
>>741000169Your levels of autism are so high you can no longer read or understand English, congratulations.
>>740999010wrong
>>740995271>getting nostalgiabaited by AI for a period you didn't even experienceJesus Christ.
>>741000335>j*bget out of here jew
>>740999642Looks like command and conquer 3, the Japanese faction.
>>741000128>Compare that to the humiliation ritual of the past where you had to physically search for and buy games and disk and spend $60 for the privilege every single timeDunno, to me it wasn't a humiliation ritual to ride my bike to the city and go browse games in a shop, wondering which ones were good or trying to find a specific game. The magical feeling you got when you found a gem and brought it home, itching to play it the whole way back.
>>741000483red alert 3*
>>740995909Funny you bring up chain restaurants, because after some franchises experimented and it was a huge fucking win for business, pizza hut officially embraced the idea of "pizza hut classic".Old-groove, family-friendly, 80s-style pizza huts are absolutely fucking killing it compared to modern audience hut. Both older and younger generations love it.
>>740996892>we NEED woke because of the problematic past!>woke was ALWAYS there chuddies!
>>740995796I rented super Nintendo games a lot as a kid and there was so much shovelware, it's insane. The system has stellar titles, but also a massive pile of shit.
>>741000029jesus christ
>>741000128i still have have a weirdly nostalgic memory of being in some mall ive never been in before and seeing this cover, didn't even buy it, just saw it.
>>741000426Literally everyone grew up with "old" games. Unless you are too underage to post here.
>>741000560How do I know you're mid 30s or older from a generic two word response?
>>741000557SNES has the worst game library of any console to ever exist
>>741000617I remember looking at that game many times and wondering if it will run on our computer or not, never ended up buying it. Of course I had zero idea back then what system requirements meant and I thought you needed to absolutely have Windows Vista to run it because it was in the the requirements
>>741000504>The magical feeling you got when you found a gem and brought it homeYeah and I also remember the shitty feeling of having spent my hard earned allowance money on a game that turned out to be a complete turd because gameplay videos on the internet weren't a thing. >>741000419>gaming is better than ever because... I had to be a paypig Heh, that gif suits you well.
>comics pretty much dead and raped by manga>movies flopping all the time and keep resorting to lazy uninspired 80s and 90s franchises but worse>old music outperforming new music>books nothing but porn for brain rotted women >biggest game reveal shows end on remakes of 90s titlesYeah man things didnt used to be better actually things just keep getting better and better in a linear fashion.
>>741000657didnt ask
>>740995271Jewish shill threadGames have gotten worse shut the fuck up
It's not just video gamesMovies are objectively worse too but unlike games even most normies agree they're worse than before because movies don't (typically) have actual dedicated fandoms anymore largely thanks to studios doing their best to deconstruct and sideline them in an attempt to chase some imaginary cross racial/gender market that just never exists for media in generalIt's gotten to the point where you can watch a "Bad" movie made before 2001 that was shit on at release for a variety of reasons and it will have;>Actual lighting and blocking>Doesn't look like a car commercial all the time>CAN SEE WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING WHEN THE SCENE IS DARK>Physical locations and not just shot in a greenscreen draped cupboard>Writing isn't full of post ironic garbage of constant quips making fun of the story/characters>Actors aren't just youtubers/instagram models and look like real peopleIf you point anything similar to this in video games about passion and creativity being crushed into the dirt by corporate/franchise interests you'll have goyim go insane at you for mocking a product they're emotionally invested in for some reason.In the past for games this made sense since exclusivity was a thing and drove the industry to be better but that's largely gone now so all games are released on all platforms and largely try to target "all people" instead of the niche genres and interests of the 90's/2000'sAdd to that games now taking 5 fucking years to finish instead of the 2/3 of the 6th/7th gen which allowed studios to take a chance on new concepts/IP's constantly and you have the recipe for a total stagnation of the industry as we live in the belly of a dying beast.Don't worry though because this cycle isn't exclusive to vidya or shit even "media" anymore unfortunately TL:DR Fuck You
>>740995271I agree. I will now list ONE good game from the past 5 years:.......................................
>>741000703>>old music outperforming new musicEvery time I turn on the radio, which isn't very often, they only play stuff from the late 90s or early 00s.
>>741000652The ps4 is 13 years old, considering you can't really play games until you're atleast 5 there's absolutely people here who did not grow up playing anything but ps4 or newer games, even if they are in their 20s there's still plenty of people who grew up isolated from anything pre 360 era.
Not buying whatever dogshit current game you're mad as fuck that people aren't buying. Stay mad, tranny.
>>741000737Kek, it's because any love for that gimped era requires nostalgia you stupid boomer.
Like anything, if you want to find cool shit, it's still there, but since everything is filtered for you algorithmically you have to get through the layer of slop sitting on the top.
>>741000557judging a platform by its shovelware instead of quality titles is fucking retarded.and if you want to follow this logic through the amount of shovelware is more extreme than ever right now.
>>741000772To be fair, this is heavily a regional thing. EX: you live rural, you get like, 7 country music stations, 3 classic rock, and anything left is probably gospel or some other really specifically targeted shit.You live in a college town or major city though, your options look rather different.
>>741000859damn zoomie couldnt even keep his larp up for two posts.
>>740995271I don't think that's true. I enjoy many new games. The issue is big corpos took hold of good video game devs and guided them towards making games for an audience that does not exist but that they wish did(women, gays). These big corpos pay for the overwhelming majority of video game advertisement, which is why it sometimes feels like you are not the target audience(you aren't for the delusional corpos). But this is the same as watching TV commercials and assuming 90% of men are black and in a relationship with a white woman when this is simply not the case in reality.
>>740995523You are now a 30 y/o unc and your opinion doesn't matter so SHUT THE FUCK UP BITCH
>>741000887>this is heavily a regional thing.I live in Sweden and that's how it is over here at least.
>>741000915are you avatar fagging?
>>741000859>requires nostalgiaExcept it doesn't. I play games from back then that I haven't played before and I still like them. Are you one of those faggots that think games come with an expiration date or something?
>>741000764Anno series, orcs must die, deep rock, valheim, enshrouded, cyber hook, devil daggers, and god knows what else. If you like the genre, there are always titles. But of course you are just a reactionary nigger, a sjw tranny in spirit, addicted to outrage. I'm sure you will report this post with all your devices and discord trannies. But the message is out. You sexually degenerate gender bender lost.
>>741000261>/v/ is one personYou are a schizo nigger, kill yourself
>>741000772music got hit hardest by the destruction of mono-culture I feel.the "old" music people still have their connected past. new music people are all in their own way way smaller bubbles.you wont see musical phenomena like daft punk or gorillaz or true true big stuff like queen and michael jackson anymore.there's no more MTV. there's radio but not everybody listens to radio anymore.sometimes I see some music video on youtube that has gorillions of viewers that nobody heard of because the algorithm didnt reach them.
>>740996306That guy pwned you.
>>741000760This anon gets it and is much smarter than OP. Also, unlike OP, not a faggot.
>>741000943Fair enough. I can't really speak for non-burger countries.Other than to grouse that europe promoted the most absolute garbage electronic in the late-90s/2000s, once the early breakbeat and rave trends was over. People should've been getting shot over gabber alone.
>>740995271I am goyimcattle-whatever. I eat up those 90s nostalgia videos with the sad Donkey Kong music.I'm sure every generation is going to do that now. Even our parents would have but they didn't have a magic computer program that could recreate the past for them or they would have been watching dicso and drive-in theater nostalgia bait.There's a Youtube channel that's just one guy's 90s-looking room with a CRT television playing random Toonami bumpers. I can watch that shit all day. Although if you said, "Here, watch this bad English dub of a single 21 minute Dragon Ball Z episode and then play Bloody Roar for Playstation." to me today, I probably wouldn't do it. The 90s was more about a feel than the stuff in it, although the stuff was pretty cool for its time.
>>741000963Uhhhh, no, that would be against the rules. I do not personally identify with any characters in these syndicated comics.
Just be grateful you weren't born in a place where you truly have no future and no hope like India or China.
>>741000681If you were questioning, the answer was no. That game was a fucking bitch on system requirements, didn't even run well on hardware of the time. Still doesn't, because it's built off of core performance, it slows the actual game logic down in the lategame to cope.
>>740996106Wait those were donation boxes? I thought they were games
i just miss when there werent brown retards everywhere including the fucking internet
>>740999443>3D collect-a-thonsAnd?
>>741001045>you wont see musical phenomena like daft punk or gorillaz or true true big stuff like queen and michael jackson anymore.Even music that was considered complete utter slop back in the day, like Brittney Spears or Backstreet Boys etc, seems to be far more universally well liked than whatever the current music is.
>>741001158The internet was always full of brownies. The difference is that back then it was nerds of all places and now it's flooded with retards who can't write in their own language to begin with.
>>740996892Pretending not to understand again I see.
>>741001045Internet pretty much "democratized" music in that way, though. They used to make movies like Airheads, making fun of how ridiculously curated the music industry was, and how easily "hit" bands were manufactured just by forcing exposure.You can't really do that anymore, since everyone can just get on spotify and find exactly the shit they like. Recommendation algorithims by nature target close to the stuff you're already into, so unless millions of people are listening to something already, you're not likely to get jew eared into something you didn't already want.
>>740998186when a mother gets arrested because she sends her son to the store to get something alone, its over
>>741000760>Movies are objectively worse too but unlike games even most normies agree they're worse than before because movies don't (typically) have actual dedicated fandoms anymore largely thanks to studios doing their best to deconstruct and sideline them in an attempt to chase some imaginary cross racial/gender market that just never exists for media in generalI think the major thing that keeps games from getting that bad is that we still have asia releasing games.Look at Sonys conference and imagine if thats all we got for videogames. It would be fucking bitter.
>>740997136Police have done nothing as shoplifters have run riot the past 4 years, you dumb retard.
>>740995271No, my kids like the older games better too. I wish it wasn’t true. It’s sad they don’t have a scene and all the cool stuff to look forward to all the time like we did
>>740998291Going out of your way to prove that you meet his standards isn't the win you think it is wifejak
>>741000897Funny how I can pinpoint your age but you haven't got a clue what mine is because I'm not a nostalgic person.>>741000995You're nostalgic for that style and era which transplants onto any games that evoke the era. This is evident from all the elder millenials and gen x jerking off to ugly 8/16bit indie games which has now been replaced by ps1 and ps2 low poly nostalgia.
>>741001158we own the internet now timmy in factr we are the reason its more based and redpilled nowgo to bluesky or reddit if you want to be with your fellow troon whitoids
>>740995271To a level I agree. Notably in the early days of gaming gamews were made harder to pad out the lack of playtime otherwise from space issues. A lot of games would be like a few hours otherwise. I'd say like SNES or N64 era is where they became easier since they didn't have to substitute play time with difficulty
>>740995909fast food places used to be family oriented establshments. the society catered to families. now fast food places serve atomized individuals and look like soviet pit stops for the working class. the soulless corporate design reflects the state of our society
>>741001232Gorillaz honestly seems to be a little more highly regarded than that, to be fair. I think they're crap personally, but I can't deny they have a very fucking strong "street cred" and cult appeal going for them.Conversely, boy bands like BSB and new kids on the block... even when they were new, it was for girls. If you were a boy, and you liked either group, you felt compelled to keep it on the down-low so nobody thought you were a fag.
>>740997993Second stupidest post in the thread, only saved from first place by OP's considerable retardation
I like how backrooms and obsession pretty much killed millennials as a consumerzoomers and zoomer culture dictate marketing and product trends and you are just mad that you were left out to rot on the sides of history being a good paypig wageslave for gibs to immigrants keek
>>740999352It's always been a thing with all media for whatever reason. People would scoff if you mention watching old movies, say 50s-60s or even black and white. And saying that casually, not that you find them better or challenge their own taste. Same with music and games. It's weird.
>>741001443How can I be a paypig and also be killed as a consumer lmao
>>741001361Most gen x aren't into indie pixelslop unless it hews very fucking close to the bone, like CotM or something.Too much of it is transparently "look I did an 80s thing except I have no idea what the thing was actually like!" like bad synthwave artists, and it puts more oldfags off. Millenials maybe a little less.
>>741001447People are retards
>>740997094Yeah, now you got purple and that the characters look like dogshit not because of graphics limitations but handcrafted at high definition as a little treat for you, faggot.
>>741001361Beautiful graphics are now bad. They are a signifier of AAA slop. The best selling video game of all time has intentionally bad, blocky graphics. It’s become a signifier, if the graphics are shitty or pixelly then the gameplay might actually be good
are people who are emotionally affected by AI videos the equivalent of 5 in pic related?
>>740995271The games actually have gotten worse but I was never part of the primary demographic they were targeting so it's easy for me to see.
Games have gotten worse for a huge chunk of what made them good. It's not "I'm old," it's that the industry deliberately shifted priorities:>Single player focused games with actual campaigns and no always-online bullshit became rare as fuck>Everything's a live service husk designed to farm your wallet monthly>AAA budgets go to 8 different departments of "diversity consultants" and marketing slop instead of gameplay and writing>Games ship as unfinished products with day 1 patches, battle passes, and 47 currencies. Remember when a $60 game was actually finished at launch?>Level design, art direction, and mechanical depth got sanded down for "accessibility" and broader appeal>Soulslikes and indies are carrying the torch because big studios are terrified of riskNostalgia isn't the only metric. Go play something like Baldur's Gate 3 or older classics and then boot up the latest Ubisoft or EA slop. The difference in soul and craft is night and day.It's not that I'm older. It's that modern gaming companies treat their customers like dopamine addicted wallets instead of people who want fun, complete experiences. Some of us just refuse to cope and pretend the decline isn't real.The medium didn't "evolve." It got captured.
>>741001232they were crap, they were liked, but they were also all test tube babbies bred for the industry and pushed onto people until they did like that. backstreet boys would get shoved onto people through TV, radio and magazines. All of those mediums are weak or dead now.thats gone. its harder to keep such an artificial environment like that anymore.>>741001273yes that were criticisms of the music industry at the time. what the critics did not predict was what would follow after removing that pillar. feels like instead of a few getting lucky you instead get nobody getting lucky anymore at all.I think there is SOME merit to curated media, though I wouldnt trust the people in charge now to curate it. But now pandoras box is open anyways and we have to live with the new reality. the future of pop music might end up being a more curated experience again after this chaos.
>>741001443>how can I make this about my boring zoomer bullshitshut up fag
>>741001447Most people tend to be superficial about this stuff. It's not really all that weird when you think about it.Filmmaking in general changed a lot over the decades after all, and not just in visual fidelity. Look back on some early bond, or to sir with love, or something like that, and even the music has a distinctly period sound to it, that can be "ewww oldshit" if you're not accustomed to it, even if the movies themselves are fucking amazing.
>>741001545because just to exist you still have to pay bills and shitand you are also still consuming stuff while seething about the products that you consume because you are a low impulse control addict
>>741000760>Writing isn't full of post ironic garbage of constant quips making fun of the story/charactersIf I have to watch one more film with James-Gunn-ish dialogue where some serious moment is undercut by cool character X mentioning a pop culture reference that the other characters don't get, I'm going to stop watching new movies altogether.I love how you can just watch an old dumb Jean Claude Van Damme movie and it's exactly what you think it's going to be. You aren't waiting for the "what odd theme did they shoehorn into the plot" shoe to drop. Here's a guy, someone kidnapped his girlfriend or challenged him to a death fight and shit's going down.
>>741001361nice try zoomie
>>741000261you are retarded.
>>740995271>Games are made for your children>Games in question
>>740995271How can I have aged out when all the slop they make is targeted at millennials while I’m a zoomer?
>>741001079fucking gay
>>741001554Either way, the entire style was made for a specific era of nostalgia that nobody outside that bubble really cares about. There are zoomers who then have second hand nostalgia from playing 16bit indie games as a kid but they are increasingly rare until the style is completely erased from culture because it wasn't inherently that appealing. I'm under no illusion that my soft spot for ps2 era low poly shit is anything but nostalgia and I dont expect anyone younger than me to share it. I do think there was a transition to hyper realism that was an objective downgrade in art direction but stylised games still exist and I'd still rather a modern stylised game than a ps2 nostalgia piece.
>there is no monoculture (apart from clothing) and you can now find movies, music, books and games in all sorts of niches tailored to your tastes but you would rather complain about the mainstream
>>741001841Most of them aren't really made for nostalgia though. They're made to make younger people feel like they're enjoying something old, even though they're not.It's all a slight of hand.
>>741001764>throws knife into guy's chest, pins to wall>"stick around!"Come now. Let's not pretend other generations didn't have their own form of this slop.
>>740995909A hamburger doesn't cost a dollar anymore, either.
>>741001841Just because a game has low res graphics doesn’t make it nostalgia bait. Since it is now an accepted aesthetic, many are doing it simply because it’s easier. Or hell, possible. Like Stardew Valley is never ever getting made in one guy’s basement if you expect AAA graphics. We just don’t get that game. It’s a great game, and I never played Harvest Moon or any farming sim to be nostalgic for. My kids never even heard of them. The 16-bit art style is irrelevant to us.
I think I've only ever played one remake in my life and that was the RE1 Remake.
>>741001918>games in all sorts of niches tailored to your tastesThis is blatantly false. What you find are games that very remotely approach your tastes so you swallow it down alongside a myriad of problems(budget, care, actual quality) and trick yourself into thinking it's okay because you can't find anything that scratches your itch.
>>741001768You're old and out of touch, I know autism makes it almost impossible to put yourself in another person's shoes but you have to recognise what you are and how others view you. I was playing games on floppy disks, I know that leaving them in caused boot issues, I also know that it is delusional to expect anyone else to give a shit about dial up tones and shitty game graphics from the 90s.
>>74100144750s movies is pretty damn extreme but in the 90s and 2000s it was completely normal to watch 70s and 80s movies.same way going out of your way to play atari games is kinda weird now, but if you cannot even find something to enjoy on the NES or SNES then something is off with your videogame tastes. but we dont even have that now. we have retards refusing to play ps3 era games strictly just because they arent being marketed to them directly so they wait until a completely unecessary remake comes out. I cannot consider such people human.
>>740995271TRVKE
>>741002059That sounds like a (You) problem. If you are chasing the dragon you have an addiction and you need help.
>>741002031I think there's kinda a seperation former anon was implying though, between "low res" and "pixelslop."Like, there are games that just have those kind of graphics. But there are a shitload of games that use it as a selling point, trying to cash in on "hey we got pixels, pixels here!"
>>741002073didnt read
real talk now, is there ANYTHING related to media/internet that has gotten better in the last 10 years?
>>741002031That is no different from the zoomers who are now nostalgic for pixel art because they grew up playing indie games like stardew. I'm under no illusion that this isnt just a perpetuating spiral of nostalgia that weakens over time until it vanishes.
>>741001995thats kino though
>>741002073>he doesn't know insane maniacs half his age make music out of modem signal noise and floppy drive grindHow lonely and lost some lives thus seem....
>>740995271There are things that were measurably done better in "retro" games. Like the camera work and animation in arcade racers. Try Sonic Crossworlds and you can tell it looks and feels incredibly stiff compared to something like Sonic Riders.There are definitely nostalgia fags but let's not pretend the industry's talent pool is better across the board just because we're in 2026. Sometimes old is indeed better than new.
>>741001918thats not the case at all.
>>740995523>born 1996Stopped reading right there.
>>740996240Was posting an 18 year-old game supposed to prove your point or something?
>>741002147two more weeks.
>>740995271>Games haven’t gotten worse, you’ve gotten olderWhat you don't understand is that things called 'litmus tests' exist. These are tests that are not especially accurate of detailed, but they give you an overarching indication of the truth.Homeworld (1999) has more interesting unit balance, unit complexity (each has independently aimed turrets with limited firing arcs and rotation speeds), kinetic projectiles and a bunch more shit.Modern RTS does not have this, when it was possible and accomplished in the late 90's.Ergo, games have gotten worse as they no longer can hold themselves to the standards of games made almost THREE DECADES AGO.
>>740999972>>741000521>>741001263Why did you take the obvious falseflag bait?I swear to god culture warriors...
>>741002143I admit I do like my download speed being greater than 1 megabyte a second and not having shitty data caps anymore.I guess they probably still do on some isps, but it's ticktock for those fags. Fiber's driving it all out, at least until the jews decide they're not profitable enough and bring it all back.
>>740995271>Games haven’t gotten worseFactually a fucking lie.Kill yourself.
>>741002147Not everything is nostalgia. Some people and companies just don’t have a billion dollars and hundreds of developers to spent years making a game. The gatekeep for making a modern graphics game is absurd, and most of them are still shit anyway.
>>741001006I'm genuinely curious as to how much the IDF pays you to post here? I need to make some extra cash.Thank you for the (you) btw!
>>741002078>o they wait until a completely unecessary remake comes out. I cannot consider such people human.#metooIt's such a bizarre mindset. Like, the game is right there, you can play it NOW. But it doesn't have pointless grind and RPG mechanics so I cannot consoom.
>>741002213Look a little deeper.
>>741002179Retarded zoomers who wish they were millenials is it's own hyper niche subcategory of mental ilness. Nostalgia is such a crazy drug that in its extremes people force themselves to be nostalgic about shit they didn't even experience. This is very evident from weebs who then become nostalgic for an era of japan that they certainly didn't experience and they aren't even sure existed because their only access point is childrens cartoons.
>>740995909>gachatroon has an opinionDidn't read.
>it's all just nostalgia bro we're better at making games now>that's why we're regurgitating the same IPs from the 1990syeah sure, uh huh
>>740995523Nobody thinks you're cool for playing some gay-ass forgotten weeb game. I don't like you and your haughty attitude.
>>741001918>there is no monocultureNot a good thing. These little games for specific tastes aren't memorable except to a 2% audience.>I like slapcore bounce and bass rimmle dimmle scrud-hop house music*Shrug* So we can't discuss music anymore? It's all just vague sounds random people create to tickle the ears of a different 2% of the population? Everyone knew Aerosmith, everyone heard Van Halen, we could relate to each other with musical interests.Films. Holy fuck, they were cultural events. The whole nation would stop and go see a Spielberg movie or a Tom Cruise movie. You could reference the first Jurassic Park 10 years after it came out and people would remember. The Disney animated films of the 80s and 90s are burned into our brains as a shared experience we can all relate to.The end of the monoculture just heralds the beginning of the total atomization of the populace who retreat alone to watch their customized feed alone and talk about it with strangers and bots in the comments section. It's anti-human at its core and destructive to society.
Corporations are inherently more risk averse the more costs have gone up. This leads to remakes/remasters/sequels rather than new IP because they are more tried and tested.
new games are objectively worse and 100% creatively bankrupt compared to old real games though, and that's without mentioning the extremely unpleasant political propaganda that's forced like hell
>>741002143Faster Internet and larger storage meaning I can download all the shit I want instead of having to pay for a Blockbuster subscription.
>>740996445>Elden RingRollslop, I am not interested>SilksongIndie female-protagonist-slop, not interested>BG3Actually sort of interested in this one, haven't gotten around to it yet.>Cyberpunk 2077Massive pile of shit, had a perk which made you invisible underwater in a game without water combat>E33Astroturfed psuedo JRPG with parryslop mechanics>Against the StormNever heard of it>The Last SpellNever heard of it.
>>741002208Talent pool is genuinely a sore point, yeah. Nevermind all the DEI hires, indians, and other garbage, we have the problem too of "older" talent not knowing what the fuck to do with newer tools and expectations. Too many times big names from back in the day, come back to the table and drop a turd like underworld ascension.Games industry seems to be a place where unless you're a super autist like carmack, or are willing and able to completely destroy every last bit of design-sense you spent your career developing, you can't come back, and if you do, you're only a liability.It's weird shit. Not many industries have old man in the club syndrome.
>>740995271>games haven't gotten worse>they are just made for people with worse tasteYappari.
>>740996104I think you've had a bit too much to think
>>741002303there's nothing there.
>>741002376>So we can't discuss music anymore?Sure we can, it's just there's not the subculture around the different music genres any more (apart from metalfags).>The whole nation would stop and go see a Spielberg movie or a Tom Cruise movieThere is literally a Speilberg movie out now and cinema numbers are back up.
>>740997094>Talking shit about Resistance Fall of Man, the only console FPS to even get close to Halo CE's greatnessLol, lmao even!
>>741002274There is no other reason to express yourself in an antiquated, labour intensive manner. Someone who had no nostalgic attachment would just invent a manageable and appealing style then draw the character instead of pixel fucking. After a certain point I'm not saying this is a bad impulse because ps2 and after is complex enough to express basically anything the artist can imagine. 16bit and prior are like silent black and white films, nobody will be into that for any reason outside its historical value in 40 years.
>>740995271That's fine, I'll just play the indie games that ARE made for me while AAA keeps releasing commercial failures.
>>741002376only thing I like about the destruction of the mono-culture is that small talk about said mono-culture stopped being a thing everywhere.there used to be a social pressure to participate in whatever was trendy at the time and in many cases I thought it was big gay. now people do not assume that you ate up whatever is served anymore and that gives me a bit peace of mind. In a way it dragged everybody into my world. they dont expect me to know about some vin diesel dogshit movie anymore just like I dont expect them to know about Karnovs Revenge.yeah my stance is anti-social, but whatever.
>>741002143The service itself is objectively better, speed is faster there's less downtime or outages in last 10 years my internet was down for maybe 10 hours probably less. You can start torrenting a movie enable sequential mode and be watching within seconds, not vidya related but I noticed that recently.
millennial derangement syndrome is actually driving people fucking insane now
>>740995909It's literally conditioning people to be more depressed.
>>740995523>Nostalgia tards are a plague. I regularly play games made before my time (born 1996) and for completely different cultures. The sentence "I grew up with x" is such an empty platitude. As if they can only enjoy whatever crap was put in front of them as a child. Oh wait, that's a disappointing number of actual people.you mean all normalfags
>>741002419>conflating minorities with liberalsStill waiting for the conservative video game studios to start releasing hits.
>>740998826>>E33>The actual GOTD so farKill yourself.
The "soul" of the past was just the inconvenience of bad technology and captive consumers
>>741002492>16bit and prior are like silent black and white films, nobody will be into that for any reason outside its historical value in 40 years.So nobody will play the best shmups ever made, the best jrpgs ever made, the best 2D platformers ever made, the best run'n'guns ever made, the best beat 'em ups ever made just because they're old? This is the dumbest shit I've ever read.
>>740995271>Buys game, it's shit>GAME ISN'T FOR YOU, CHUDS!>Ok>Doesn't buy game, knows it's shit>WHAT THE FUCK YOU CAN'T JUST NOT BUY OUR GAMES???
>>740995271No I just keep playing what interests me. Sometimes it's new, sometimes it's not.
>>741002492Pixel is not just a nostalgic style. It’s computer graphic design at a basic, accesible level. People will do it not because it looks like Nintendo, because it is cheaper and easier. If shooting movies in color took a 1000x more cost, work and manpower than b&w, we would still have b&w.Hand drawn animation looks better than CGI AND has the nostalgic factor, and yet we have gone entirely the opposite direction in animated films 100% because of the cost
>>740995271Roblox - 2006Minecraft - 2011CoD:MW - 2007LoL - 2009DotA - 2003CS1.6 - 2003All the most popular games are either old or remakes/sequels of old games. Nobody likes new games.
too bad Forza Horizon 6 released and it's the game of the gen
>>741002716That reminds me. I have no idea how well AI generates pixelslop.You fags who're into this shit, how well do the gennies work on say, 16-bit final fantasy style sprites and tiles?
>>741002439AAA split up the talent pool so much you have people working on literally just hair for 6 months. Americans literally forgot how to design games thanks to this framework and the industry veterans largely fucked off to the many other jobs that pay better for less work.It doesn't help that the quality of discourse is even worse, everyone pretends to know everything with borrowed opinions that makes the balding gamefaqs nerd a wise sage in comparison.>erm lives are bad game design!
>>741002572>the upcoming world will just be everyone retreating to autistic self-absorption indulging in their narrow interests while talking to no oneYeah, that'll go great. Society doesn't need to like or trust its neighbors. Just indulgent personal consumption and navel-gazing alone until they commit suicide one by one. Maybe AI robots will replace them. Hooray for the future!
>>741002641they're called "old games" and they were made by white and/or yellow evil bigot chuds (and they are better by miles)
>>740995271>Games haven’t gotten worse,But they have. I recently went back and played games I used to in my childhood, just to see if they held up or if it just was rose tinted goggles. The three games I tried were Sacrifice, Populous, and Black & White. In all three I found the same enjoyment I did as when I was a kid, and I took a while to think on why that was. The conclusion I've come to is this: all games had their own unique art style, their own narrative direction, their own unique gameplay elements, and all of them were made by close-knit teams of people who actually play video games.Games today are made primarily in a boardroom, by investors who do not play video games. 99% of all gamesade today are games as a service meant to extract asuxh time and money from the player, instead of delivering a focused gameplay experience.
>>741002687People already don't play these shitty genres because outside 2d platformers they are for an arcade context and era which no longer exists. Shmups aren't making a comeback, even their rail shooter replacement was replaced for being too simple. As a hyper nostalgic boomer you are going to clutch pearls at this opinion but it is undeniable that younger generations think moving a jpeg around a collection of dots is hyper autistic ancient bullshit like twiddling with yoyo's
>>74100259530+, 40+ y.o. retards should know better than to preach their sanctimonious bullshit to younger generations. We're on a vidya board; let the kids enjoy the latest fad while the uncs quietly stick to their retro stuff.
>>741002898>if you don't want to watch sportsball and marvel movies you're facilitating the fall of civilization
>>741002935>gamesadegames made>asuxhas much
>>740995271If games haven't gotten worse, where have all the competent developers gone?
lotsa mad ppl itt. the OP image must be causing hella cognitive dissonance.
>>740995796>I grew up with a Sega Genesis and later a PlaystationBritbong detected
>>741003030anywhere but the game industryt. someone who quit the game industry
>>741002858>tfw you're perma-Sage on gamefaqs for over a decade because you never postGimmie a bald gamefaqs sage wojak. I've earned it. I deserve it.
>>740999092That car picture is stupid because the main reason car designs have converged into looking the same is because they've been forced to prioritize safety over aesthetics because the world is full of shitty drivers. What's fun about this is that once self-driving cars are the norm to the point that driving yourself is essentially banned car designers will be free to do whatever the fuck they want again.
>>741002919>thinks his dipshit Epstein-orchestrated culture war existed 35 years agoConservatives were protesting those old games for being a form of devil worship. Your kind produces no art and only reacts to things while appealing to tradition and divine authority.
>>741002919The funny thing is those studios are predominantly white too, but I guess I should stop noticing else hurt a /pol/fag's feelings.
>>741003167The state of Illinois alone could be considered responsable for this.
>>741002898When your neighbors are third world browns and danger haired whites who troon their kids, is it worth engaging into that society?
>>741003195did you read his post? seems like you did notredditor IQ in action
>>741003281You didn't click the image or read the posts above the chain./pol/fag IQ in action. Witnessed live!
>>741002682Webm unrelated.It's just that they're all taking videos instead.
>>741002998A certain percentage of people will have their niche interests (actual autists) but the society as a whole can't function like that.Just imagine a room full of 30 or so self-absorbed sociopaths trying to achieve anything together. They'd accomplish nothing and argue instead.Scale it up to a national level and everything collapses almost immediately. It's just not how things work.
>>741003186you're stuck thinking inside your safe space woke boxwhen the good games were being made, the developers were polite, hard-working, apolitical but likely with natural conservative views.now they've all been hounded out of gamedev by your kind we can clearly see the results - the worst shit bilgic games ever.
>>741003167>once self-driving cars are the normI fucking dread this nightmarish scenario. Imagine your car stopping dead in the middle of the road to update it's software, or that your license expired, or not working properly so it doesn't stop to let a speeding car pass.
>>741003167The car picture isn't just about design, it's about color. There's no regulatory reason why all cars are now black, white and grey.
>>741003186You're conflating that with D&D.Video games were primarily besieged by the same liberal soccer moms that got the explicit lyrics stickers put on music. Conservatives were a much smaller force in that - christcucks have always been far more interested in closely examining pornography to see what should be banned while they go into the bathroom with this bbi few mins
games aren't "dead" dead, as there are tons of smaller developers who still have some desire to experimentbut most big name productions are very sterile, which is highly contrasting from what we've had in around the year 2000. and that's what i think a lot of the people are complaining about, we all want to see big budget games that do something interesting
>>741003335i'll spell it out for you>white EVIL BIGOT CHUDSso not just "white"ok lil guy? it is literally two short sentences you have to read and parse to avoid looking like a complete fucking woke retard
>>741003367>apoliticalThis is revisionist. You take a team of 50 people and paint them with one brush.The idea that people can be in a studio and vote for different candidates doesn't process I guess?
>>741003483not like voting ever mattered lmfao
>>741003407I look forward to the dystopia where your family dies in an automated car crash and then you're gaslit by corporations about how statistics prove they would have killed themselves in a car crash anyway because people are too stupid to drive cars. Take your boosters bros, your immune system is dogshit and you will die if you don't.
>>741003483>pretending that woke insanity hasnt split the population since around 2010-2014coincidentally when games started turning into absolute dog shit, western games in particular
>>740995523You can consume whatever you like from whatever period you like but you won't have the same experience because you never got to have the culture from the time. You didn't stay up all weekend taking turns with your friends to beat a game in one sitting because none of you had a memory card or there was no save function it had to be returned to Blockbuster on Sunday.You're just a grown-ass man playing old games with nobody to share it with.
>>740995271This is just American cultureMaybe I have some mental difference, but I feel no nostalgia for really anything from my childhood aside from family gatherings and food my grandmother made.As for games and products I genuinely don’t care, I mostly miss the family time.
>>741003529It doesn't, you are correct.>>741003595It also coincided with 100 other things like the 2008 industry crash that caused massive talent bleed out, consolidation, outsourcing, shared assets, remake culture, etc.You're trying to blame everything on leftists, it's forced. A functional game studio takes a mix of people, especially ones that can stfu about their garden variety political opinions. Current day Valve is a mix of Q-Anon and BLM types under the same roof, it's weird, but that's not the reason they were hired.
>>741003367>keeps dipping into the culture war wellDeranged. Epstein created /pol/ to lure the gullible into a socially destructive ideological war they can't win. You're the one trapped in a box of algorithmic clickbait.>friendly and hard working are only right-leaning red state valuesDeranged retelling of history. Nobody in the 90s. Fucking nobody thought making video games was "honest hard-work", least of all blue collar conservatives who saw video games a luxury product for the leisurely middle class.You don't belong here. There's got to be a Stormfront video game forum somewhere out there waiting for you.
>>741003846I feel nostalgia for orange street lights.
>>741002641uh oh the epic leftoid joined the thread. many quality posts ahead!
>>741000520New Yorker here. What's the difference between classic style Pizza Huts and modern ones?
>>741003873*recessionNot industry crash.A lot of people don't know this but 2008 was the biggest shift in terms of what kind of studios survived, especially in Japan.
>>740995271must be rough being normalfaggots.t. never been a target demographic for anything but gay furry porn.
>>740995271Explain the rise of zoomers playing older games.
But no one likes these modern games bro. We are living in the Age of the Flop
>>741002898not my problem. I wasnt very in-culture in the first place.welcome to my domain. hope you can handle it. I know you couldnt handle minimal isolation under the meme lockdowns lmao.
>game uses ACES color space>game has forced TAAI just refund.
>>741003972It's like when Soviet Russians pretended they were American by listening to whatever music and fashion they could smuggle in. Or when an Indian makes a game boy out of cardboard, it's longing for a childhood that they are aware of and that is better than what they are given.
>>741003972You're an idiot that believes what you read on social media if it's presented as a headline.
>>741002858>AAA split up the talent pool so much you have people working on literally just hair for 6 monthsseriously the slopmancer publishers are dooming their own companies with this.why would anybody with talent be such a minor cog in the machine?discourse is terrible but can probably be fixed or at least guided into a better direction.but even then I kinda dont like normgroids parroting what I believe because they often dont get it and make me look bad by association.
>Videogames as a meidum should be allowed to lower its standards every time a new generation without a frame of refence is born to accept the current state of the industry as something normal.I hope people who think like this get violently raped, killed and left to rot somwhere no one will ever find them.
>>740995271 I've been playing nothing but 360 games for the past monthgames were better in the past. shitty games back in the day blow "good" games out of the water now.
>>741004178>why would anybody with talent be such a minor cog in the machine?They were literally groomed to do just one thing. I'm not even meming, you have Ubisoft employees that literally only know their internal visual scripting system that they were taught in university.While indies have a wider skillset, they're even more subject to the low quality discourse acting as a global IQ debuff.
>>741004207>the best ARPG ever exists today>the best CRPG ever exists today>the best strategy games ever exists today>lower standardsDumb ass.
>>741002595millenials can be pretty damn awful. many of them are ironically zealous defenders of the current state of things and more rabid than the kids, who would at least have an excuse because its what they were raised with.but its not all of them. there's part of them who truly care and know that things could be better than they are now.>>741002974kys.
>>741002492meds
>>741004216The reason for that is because you like 3D action button-mashing slop like Darkshitters and Protoshit that studios aren't developing much these days.
>>741004113So they themselves recognize that older games were in fact better despite not having the nostalgia factor.
>>740996106>i want cheap fast food to eat up these costs and be more expensive
>>741003876mein neger, everywhere on the internet is ((("""algorithm"""))) containment hell>you dont belong here>"MUH STORMFRONT!"lmao 1488 white power 15 million this time
>>740995271bullshit i found a game i love and im old as fuck there was a period i got bored of games its the devs not making good games not me getting older
>twitter screencap by a yuropoor>going to hit 500 posts with less than 100 imageskek
>>740996445>Elden Ring. Silksong. BG3. Cyberpunk 2077. E33. Against the Storm. The Last Spell. Who did you download that opinion from?>b-b-but-Post evidence of playing all these 7 right now or your mom dies in her sleep.
>>741004461this is corporate jewery taken ad absurdum and its insane that anybody but a shareholder would defend this inhuman behavior.the cost difference when split across the customer would increase the costs of everything by less than a penny.
Besides from soft games and Bayonetta I essentially stopped playing anything made before 2009 until 2022.Games got a lot worse.
>>741004435Better than what? Zoomers can't afford modern pcs and they are rightfully sick of gaas slop and gacha that is full of predatory monetisation, in this case any game from any era is preferable because it was atleast made to be enjoyed and not suffered through in order to avoid spending money.
honestly it's just funny to see how much worse the jews can make games at this point. keep it up you ugly reject kike vampire scum, see where it gets you.
>>741003480Judging by your insufferable tone I figured you were implying predominantly white studios are now perceived as "evil".Either way the sentiment doesn't even work. You're just making shit up at a point.>uhm yeah they all share my ideology just ignore the ones that made youtube channels and got bullied by /v/ for being left leaninguh huh
>>741005106you're completely mentally gone lmaowokeflop fleshbot
>>741004689You get one. But I actually spend most of my time playing grindy games. Not that I should bother proving anything to you retards that hold up some really unremarkable, run-of-the-mill, popular-for-the-time, trend-chasing titles as the greatest games ever and literally nothing better came after. Fucking Bayonetta? Wow, you mash the same button and dodge a bit. Truly groundbreaking and never done before.
>>740995271If games haven't gotten worse, then why do I have more fun playing a new old game than a new new game?
>>741005185I guess I would type like that too if I had a lobotomy. Condolences.
>>741005338Too slow to keep up and you need something slower.
>>741005256I'm too lazy to find out what you guys are shitposting about, so just tell me about Last SpellHave had my eye on it for a while
>>741005369>n-no you're stupidWhy are leftists such low IQ faggots
>>741005369t. god of war laufey pre-orderbot
Games are worse because antitrust enforcement utterly failed and five big publishers devoured every single dev studio in existence and every single investment dollar in the industry.Monopolies are always shit for the consumer.
>>741005376Every new game is slower, easier, and more boring than every NES game. You are a soft faggot who needs 2 hours of tutorials and cutscenes. Mega Man would make you cry
>>741005520>b-but regulation badIt's funny because the US government actually were preventing these acquisitions in the 90s then just became Microsoft's bitch at a point.Hmmm, I wonder why.
This is rubbish though. The majority of video games today are still very clearly focused on Millennials and Gen X. The recent NotE3 week doubled down on this.
>>741005485>>741005487samefagAlso no one gives a shit about that game.
>>741005520>>741005691it's easier than ever for AA and indie studios to make their own game, the problem is YOU
>>741005701The problem is people think it's a generation thing, it's a California culture bubble thing. Film writers were noticing this phenomenon in the 1990s almost to a T what people are blaming millennials for.Obviously but almost every AAA company there and they inherit the Californinisms.
>>741001130Exactly, they made something people didn't normally do fun.Now they just look like this
>>741005740turns out that most people are tired of shameless leftist subhuman scum shitting up everywhere they go with their ugly retardation
>>740996104To ruin good things
>>741005814You're going for an individualist solution to a macro problem. Yes indies can make great games, no they can't cover for the absolute greifing that is the AAA space. Something will always feel missing.I play Next Fest, I find good stuff, but I can't pretend everything's not on fire.
>>741005429You build up a team of heroes with skills and gear to defend various towns acting as different difficulties. You're fighting against a horde that ramps up to maybe like 50 enemies per hero a night (turn). It's a roguelite so you'll have to unlock things. Think XCOM but stationary, where your heroes become incredibly strong in the end game and can blow up many enemies in one turn.
>>741005740How can we be samefags if we posted at the exact same time you newfag tranny?This is why everyone hates you
>>741005256QED, performative niggerfaggots parroting hearsay from reddit tongue my anus.
>>741005556>Mega Man would make you cryto sleep because fuck me if I'm playing a 2D platformer.
>>741005369you lost
>>741001758I repeat, lmaoModern games aren't made for me I'll grant you, but they're not made for anyone anymore. Yet they're desperate for my engagement. Why do you think everything is millennial nostalgia repackaged?
>>740995950Enjoy your McGoynald slop then
>>741005863>>741005943samefag
I'm 35, my first console was a snes and I think gaming is literally better than it ever was.No, I haven't bought an AAA game in years, so what? Why do you crave the validation from big studios and media so much? People like you have always been morons and age has nothing to do with it.I make mods for games I like and share with people on steam, I use discord to find people to play obscure mp games that I would never have people to play with me in the past.You are responsible for your own entertainment.
>>740995271When I remember adverts of the 90s it was all music and creative related, like literal music ads, games, or going outside to six flags or the local waterpark. Lifestyle focused on being with friends and outside. Today ads are targeted on selling you the latest plastic garbage or promoting some fat bitch on a dove soap commercial It's pretty easy to see why that happenedMillennials and Gen x took over the ad industry
>>740995271:>games didnt change, you did
>>741002595choke on it nigger
>>741002974 >let the kids enjoy the latest fad while the uncs quietly stick to their retro stuff.I won't heed a thing you say until you stop using dumb niggerspeak
>>741006125tbf Uncharted and Infamous were at least memorable. Resistance was about as forced as Horizon is.
>>741005896>Something will always feel missingYour schizo paranoia? I genuinely wonder what you actually remember about AAA games from the past. What exactly are you holding up as some AAA golden era?
>>741006125I was so sad that the era of mascot platformers had ended
>>741006082What are your top 5 games released in the last 5 years?
It's funny how angry zoomers get when people prefer older games.I've seen multiple people spergout in rage yesterday when people showed interest in some old PSX game. One of them had posts going back nearly 12 hours.
>>741006172not really, they were prstty shit
Nah, they've gotten worse, I can tell because there's the rare modern game that's still good, plus I've played old games for the first time and those are still good despite me having 0 nostalgia for them. Modern AAA is just gutter dogshit.
>>741006241Careful of assuming it's a zoomer. Millennial progressives also despise any suggestion that old might be better than new. It legit opens up a can of worms they can't process without questioning their whole belief structure, so they lash out in frightened anger.
>>741002935It helps that Sacrifice had decent writing and a great voice cast from established actors. These days it's all the same cartel of 30 people voicing everything, rather poorly, and they expect praise for bland performances.To your point about corporate control, I thought the balkanization of media the last 10-12 years would have made niche communities plentiful and bustling. Instead, we have giant conglomerates absorbing & homogenizing everything and making niche communities and media harder and harder to find, all while trying to nickle-and-dime anyone that glances at them with subscription fees and advertisements.
>>741006172Uncharted might just have been the most damaging game to release for the state of the entire industry.
>star fox, mario, zelda, god of war, reaident evil, final fantasy, kingdom hearts, halo, half life, doom, warcraft, aoe, diablo, banjo kazooie, donkey kong country, mirrora edge, masa effect, burnout, hitman, etc etc>uncslop!meanwhile games that zoomera can call their own...
>>741006349>I can tell because there's the rare modern game that's still good, plus I've played old games for the first time and those are still good despite me having 0 nostalgia for them.Watch them fail to ever address these points
>>740996656Not surprised someone who posts like this, reposts a screenshot that explains absolutely nothing.
>>741006125All western
>>741006350It's pretty ironic too considering millennials love remakes, sequels of the exact same cinematic marvel slop this time with overtly progressive messaging. They'll find a way to put the karmelo anthony case in a game and frame him as a good guy
>>741006178I'd say the PS3/360 to PS4/Wii U gen at least had an output of original IPs that people liked, albeit infrequent. Racing games were consistently kino in that gen. They were even willing to fund experimental AAA titles like Little Big Planet and Mirror's Edge which is just not happening today, and if it does is riddled with a lot of modern game development-isms that kill the vision. eg Unreal slop rendering practices>>741006241They really don't, they're typically pretty chill about it from my experience. Pleasantly surprised to see zoomers pulling up DS emulators and drawing fan art.
>>741006071This tranny is having a meltdown again
>>741006178indies will never create a devil may cry3 or okami.indies will never create something like monster hunter or even Phantasy Star Online.they wont even do something with the scope and quality of OoT, an n64 game.the budget and skill arent there.the alien game you posted looks like absolute amateur hour compared to past industry peaks.
>>740995271Imagine trying to make an AI video about the past using modern footage.
>>740995271Say that to DA Wokeguard and AssCrud Yasugay.
>>741001413>look like soviet pit stopsThe american obsession with muh gommunism really is something else.
>>741006372Was it? It didn't really create waves in the industry outside of everyone mimicking the climbing system. If you want to talk about AAA ebola, then we should be talking about Arkham Asylum's combat.
No. I’ve gotten older and they’ve gotten worse.
>>741006521Why are you always thinking of trannies and bbc It's weird.
>>741006351>>741002935Sacrifice was great back in 2001 and it is great today. I'll reinstall it just because you guys mentioned it
>>741006226Games that I liked and are recent:Aliens dark descentStarship Troopers Terran CommandGates of Hell: OstfrontHell Let LooseStone of madnessSix Days in FallujahReady or notBaldur's Gate 3 (I know, but it's good actually)Broken ArrowARMA REFORGERMy most played games are "forever games" though, like ARMA 3, that still get content even after a decade.
>>741003367ftfy
>>741006676The blizzfags want you to stop noticing.
>>740995523FPBP
>>741006572The industry is lousy with setpiece games that almost play themselves to this day. Yellow paint and contextual buttons are just an evolution of the trends Uncharted set.
>>741005691How come the only decent games in Europe are coming out of Russia then? Regulation up the ass and all you get is fucking Ubisoft
>>741006750
>>740995271pretty obviously untrue, but believe what you like.
>>740995271>>741000760It all boils down to one thing, scientifically calculating the optimized form for maximum effect. Games really started getting worse with stuff like WoW killers because of the skinner box model, P2P games and gacha are based around making deliberately mediocre games so they can sell fun to you as a product, movies have shit like the orange/blue contrast which is the perfect universal appeal contrast. So on and so forth.
>>741006750It could be worse. Microsoft tried to tank the industry with no survivors. Regulation doesn't suddenly mean you've fixed every bottleneck but it prevents outright greifing.Like honestly Facebook should not have been allowed to acquire Oculus then buy out successful studios then kill them, the damage it caused to VR is insanity.>>741006747Uncharted was following trends as Naughty Dog was always a trend chasing studio. It would have happened regardless.The specific flavor of Arkham combat though? That could only happen thanks to Rocksteady.
>>741006015>sleeping just because a game is 2DMan, you little alphies are cooked fr.
I feel bad for those who only play AAA games
>>741006542>Muh OoTOk grandpa let's get you to bedThere have been multiple attempts at indie/AA MH clones. They havent managed to challenge modern MH but if you were honest they certainly play and look better than MH1-3And Okami feels like an indie game
>>741006520Are you under the impression most games weren't made using Unreal Engine in the past? Hearthstone was experimental. Pragmata is experimental and delayed to hell and back. If you want weird dumb shit like Little Big Planet, Nintendo still releases that stuff. What other great experimental titles did AAA do in the past?
>>740995271Both of those are true. Games have definitely gotten worse with the normalization of Gacha, DLC, poorly optimized releases, updates after releases, etc. and also games are no longer marketed towards me in particular and only me. It's not a problem though since it happens to every generation. One day they turn the TV on or listen to some music and they don't recognize the people singing or the people acting because many of the people they grew up with are old like them or in worse cases they've passed on.
>>741006384Okay but which of those games has Pomni Digital Circus as a collab character?
>>741006676Damn zoomers are trying to force this meme really hard.
>>741006973>Are you under the impression most games weren't made using Unreal Engine in the past?The technical artists were more competent. Since Unreal Engine 4 people basically stopped caring and run with defaults, hence why every game looks the same. Obviously I'm aware it's not exclusively UE's fault, if a dev were competent they can write their own shaders or leave the slop pipeline. Most do not.>Pragmata is experimental and delayed to hell and back. I though it was good.>Nintendo still releases that stuff. Not really, they've gotten much more risk averse, see the Switch 2's very premise.
>>741000261there's also literal shills and astroturf here. not to mention the schizos
>>741006898Nah, I lived through the absolute glut of indie 2D platformers 10-15 years ago. It's so strange for people to claim gaming today is uninspired and then they tell you with a straight face Zelda and Kingdom Hearts are peak gaming. They'll trot out GoW, Bayonetta, DMC, Darksiders, Prototype, as if they aren't all the same game with different coats of paint.
>>741004861I personally can't wait for GTA 6 just to see how bad it really it is and even more so how it's gonna fail to make profit. Everyone knows its gonna be the most expensive game ever made, it's also gonna come only for PS5 and Xbox, so they need to sell a lot more too which means they are gonna have to increase the price of it, people often forget a lot of money also goes to ads and other companies like SONY also need their cut. Less people own PS5 and current Xbox too than people who own PS3 and PS4, so this will be fun to watch. I wan't this industry to crash and burn already.
>>741000395>when it's convenient for my opinions, they/re cooking the books, but they weren't cooking the books at any other point in timeyou live in a prison of your own making
>>741006672You might want to examine that you seem to have a predilection for certain themes and genres that still get entries that in your eyes still rival the greats of the past, but that’s definitely not true across the board.
>>741006896I don’t consider Arkham combat as particularly offensive desu. At least it’s (somewhat shallow) gameplay, not holding a direction and the character pretending you are controlling him.
>>740995271Guess I won’t buy them lmao
>>741006942lol
I’m so jaded le sigh
>>741007290Darksiders is much more of a puzzle and explore game than combo crazy shit like dmc and bayoI cant even imagine comparing the two
>>741002595oh wait, don't choke on iti need to sleep
>>741007107The criticism of everything looking the same is certainly not new. By nature AAA has always been the same and risk averse. They follow trends. I still fail to understand what you're remembering as a more innovative or interesting AAA industry. AAA is good at making blockbuster showpieces. They were never putting out much of anything new or interesting. Bullfrog wasn't AAA. Maxis wasn't AAA. I'd argue Blizzard wasn't AAA. Even back then smaller/midsized studios were the ones advancing more interesting games, like Remedy or Larian today. They're just not getting gobbled up and continue doing their own thing at their scale, which is a good thing.
>>741007397It's true, I'm into tactics and military stuff, but I wasn't born liking these kind games, I loved SMW and Donkey Kong as a kid, but I developed more specific tastes as I grew older, I feel like a lot people want to keep playing the exact same games forever, but you wouldn't just watch the same saturday morning cartoons all your life, right.
>>740995523>>740995271Childless behavior
>>741008718but enough about soilennials
>>741002682lol its not even close. Old WWF/WWE shows destroy the goyslop that is modern WWE.
>>740995271We are in a golden age of gaming, right now and for the last few years.Anyone who says otherwise does not truly play video games.
