>this one-off character was considered cool enough they were going to revive him just to give him his own solo gameWas he really THAT cool?
Of course not OP. Disney is just butchering every character that is slightly remarkable from the original star wars movies. They did it with Boba feet, ashoka, obi wan kenobi. I am suprised they didnt do anakin already.
>>740999504Faggot he's talking about the Lucas era game that got canned by Disney buy out
>>740999453everything Maul post phantom menance is the lamest shit imaginable
>>740999620How so?
>>740999620Siege of mandalore is easily a top 10 storyTwin suns would be too if it wasn't part of Rebels
>>740999453He rode around on this thing like a fucking retard.You tell me.
>>740999620I respectfully disagree
>>740999643Because he's fucking dead. Nigga got cut in half and dropped down a kilometer long shaft.
>>740999584go poop in your diaper this instant
>>740999860>finding a way to keep the most interesting part of a dogshit movie alive because said dogshit movie did nothing with him I can forgive a little bullshit in this case. The way he kept himself alive was the most dark side shit ever too
>>740999453>Was he really THAT cool?Well yeah, double edge lightsaber and dark & red colours is peak edginess in 1999
>>740999860But he didn't explode in the shaft so it doesn't count
>>740999643one-off non-character jobber that had a good death. He served his purpose.
>>740999860>>740999923>>740999950isnt SW in the setting where there are bacta containers that can heal people from those typa wounds and opt for mechanical parts if they were skilled enough with writing... they wouldnt need to do the dumb bullshit like palpatine
>>741000025Dark niggas keeping themselves alive with the force is a really old thing, kotor 2 didn't even come up with it
>>740999996>jobberhe killed Qui Gon Jinn
>>740999453Filoni's fanfiction needs to fuck off already. Basing everything modern Star Wars on a fucking afternoon cartoon tv series is almost as big a turn off as the Disney trilogy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_6Z630T-hY
>>741000597Clone Wars was primarily George Lucas
>>741000327>Qui Gon JinnWho was another jobber who existed to be killed off.
>Mandalorian and Grogu actually flopped and got beaten by some yandere movie and BackroomsI wonder if Disney is shitting bricks that the first Star Wars movie they released in almost a decade flopped? The whole franchise is completely unsalvagable.
>>741000942You are forgetting that SOLO flopped even harder.
>>741000597I haven't been keeping up with Disney Wars, what has Filoni been up to that caused such hatred towards him? I liked Clone Wars a lot and thought it was generally well received.
Remember when characters died and that meant they were dead?
They're bringing darth talon back with maul. Unless someone steps in and fucks it up.
>>741001016Mandalorian started out incredibly sick, but then immediately started going downhill as more member berries started getting shoved into it and made the entire plot revolve around itThis paved the road for other shows like Ahsoka and the Boba Fett one, which were slop from the start and struggled to hold attention with the handful of good ideas they had outside of thatNotably, this has not really happened to the animated shows, which kept on trucking in the background while Filoni was making live action shit
>>740999620Agreed, he was always cooler when he was the stoic rage filled stalker who spared little words. Now he's just a pretentious faggot that can't stop talking and always whines and bitches whenever he's on screen.
>yes we wrote a whole infinite space galaxy, why? so we can use the same character over and overIt would be shit even if he hadn't clearly died the first time
>>741001539You mean like Luke and all of his immediate family and friends
ventress>maul
>>741001784oops I posted the WIP
>>741001852It's crazy how she was unironically hotter bald
>>741001580Beyond the original movies and prequel? Yeah I think so, they should only really be background or single appearance characters after that, their stories are complete
>>740999504Except it was Lucas who brought Maul backClone Wars season 5 was made before the Disney buyoutHe even wanted him as the big bad as the sequel trilogy and gave Disney a bunch of drafts, then Disney said this is retarded and made A New Hope 2 (even more retarded)
>>741002004I'm just saying, Maul coming back is pretty tame compared to what the star wars extended universe has been traditionallyThat he keeps getting consistently high quality stories centered on him is just a bonus, really
>>741001882The haircut they gave her isn't much better than being bald in any case
>Darth Vader had to be in everything nowHe can't do anything in these shows. He appears, overwhelms & then the MC escapes. Why have him if he can't end it? It makes him look weak
>>740999453>wasMaul *is* fucking cool.
>>741002403That's almost 1:1 parity with how he was used in the OTHe shows up, is evil for a while, stomps people, kills a secondary character or does some recoverable damage, and then stands around staring like a dumbass as the MC takes advantage of that to escape aliveOnly part that's missing is the occasional victory that leaves him humiliated and shitting his pants alone in space in his special snowflake tie fighter for a few weeks
>>740999860Same way Luke fell down Cloud City's core right.
The lesson that should be taken away from Darth Maul is that you can excuse plot bullshit with some light explanation as long as you use that to tell good storiesThis is why everyone was more or less fine with Palpatine's force clones when the old EU did it, but up in arms when disneywars did it
>>741001016Filoni was basically kept in check by Lucas, the moment the latter was gone the former went full retard söyboy and his projects for the next decade were the animated equivalent of smashing a bunch of SW toys together. Made every second new show about clones or Ahsoka, turned the latter into (by his own admission) a Gandalf the White wannabe, has a weird fascination with wolves (seriously, he adds those to everything he creates, his own OC donutsteel character in-universe is called fucking Trapper Wolf). It's bad, and he still writes every story as if it's aimed to the 8 year olds that watched TCW almost 20 years ago.Honestly I feel the worst for Sam Witwer, you can tell he lives and breathes SW and he has fucking Filoni as the dude he has to listen to and learn from. There's an interview where Witwer explains how Filoni taught him to essentially disregard canon because "this is all just stories told in a campfire" and he explains it positively, and it's the saddest shit ever.
>>740999453He is cool badass devil man with double-bladed lightsaber. Please understand
>>740999453>castrated kek i know why certain people like him
>>741002403A Sith and Jedi fighting side by side! NO WAAAAAY!
miss me yet?
>>740999620Oh yeah wiseguy?Then explain this
What is Maul had a brother named Savage Oppression?
>>741003343Sick idea anon let's get Mr. Krabs to voice him
>>741000025>isnt SW in the setting where there are bacta containers that can heal people from those typa wounds and opt for mechanical partsyes and star wars is also a setting where people rarely die from shit that oughta kill themespecially if you're a bad guy
>>741003343>Asajj Ventress GOOD>Savajj Opress BAD
>>740999453>Was he really THAT cool?Unironically yes, back then people really loved his design and his "silent killer" demeanor. People liked the way he battled / moved around too, thanks to Ray Park's fighting style.Funnily enough, his post-"revival" self is a very different character, far more talkative, emotional, and manipulative.>>740999504>DisneyIt was Lucas who brought him back though.
>>740999453>Slop warsWho cares
Nute Gunray is NEWT Gingrich and Ronald REAGAN. I don't know why he talks like a Japanese immigrant though.
>Maul killed this
Star Wars the only series that will make a cool character like General Deathface McKillFist with a main antagonist tier design then have them die in some retarded way like tripping down the stairs after being forced pushed Only to get brought back and ruined thru multiple lore changes just cause a lot of people liked the design
Maul returning in some non-canon, fanfiction solo game would've been fine especially if the opening crawl or dev team emphasized these were alternate events. But Filoni as usual, ruined a character with established characterization and continues to milk even long past both of his deaths. It doesn't surprise me when crap like this happens, it gets redditors and /co/ trannies >>741002403 all fired up to see fan favorites duke it out...
>>740999453You cannot being to conceive how cool that moment was until you were there.
>>740999453He prepared meticulously to kill Qui-Gon after encountering him on the outskirts of Mos Espa.He knew his saber style from the duel and knew he could exhaust him, Qui-Gon being competent at form IV and favoring aggressive overhand chops that relied on ending encounters quickly.He carefully selected a battlefield; Theed power core's elevated platforms denied the possibility of the Jedi leaping to escape like he did during their first duel.The laser hall was the ideal place to separate the Jedi from his padawan and kill him, and Maul drew them both there after studying the machine and learning it's timed operation, even feigning surprise and discomfort when he appeared to be trapped behind the last laser wall.It all went according to plan and eventually Maul was staring down at a helpless padawan hanging over a bottomless pit, his master dying on the floor nearby.What happened next, Obi-Wan gaining sufficient focus to simultaneously make a force leap, telekinetically grab a saber, and strike in one fluid motion was nearly impossible to do and completely impossible to predict.Maul died to complete bullshit.
>>741001882she's a sex goddess with wet hair
>>741005332>*taps the sign*maul is dogshit and his hype is all piss and wind
>>740999710What's wrong with it?
>>741001882Because shes still feminine. I mean look at this outfit and her voice, how she flirts with Kenobi. The exotic alien look helps too.
>>740999860That's all?
>>741005249George Lucas wrote it and half of those stories, anonFiloni wasn't even involved with the recent seriesYou are genuinely the redditor here, just making up random shit based on third-hand hearsay
>>740999996Yeah imagine wasting such a cool design.
>>740999453>Baby's First Cold Steel
>>740999950Exploding while falling down a kilometer deep shaft has a 100% survival rate.
>>741002576Yeah but in the OT isn't his entire plan to entice Luke to the dark side? So not committing to the kill makes sense in that context. What reason does he have for never doing it any other time?
>>741005726He doesn't kill anyone else other than obi-wan, eitherObi-wan is the only actual character that doesn't have plot armor, and that's because he had old mentor death flags
>>741005582But enough about Boba Fett.
The Maul netflix series is going to use him as a stepping stone to send Sith into the post Disney trilogy timeline.
>>741001016The inhibitor chip was an asspull to avoid writing themselves into a corner, because they portrayed the clones too heroically and compassionately. From their first breath, clones were trained and raised on the art of war, and because of accelerated growth, they're basically child soldiers in adult bodies, with all the mental destruction that implies. They're perfectly loyal to the chancellor/emperor and no one else, only 'loyal' to jedi because the chancellor told them to be.They are supposed to be the perfect loyal soldier, and the Dark Side in general has a huge emphasis on total control over sentient beings. However, introducing the inhibitor chip cuts the foundation out from under that whole point of the clone army. Why even bother having a clone army at all if they're just as susceptible to disobedient thought as anyone else? Why not just run conscription and do implants disguised as regular combat implants? Why not just use droids at that point, since an artificial device that robs someone of most of their free will basically defeats the whole grandeur of mass population control? TCW's biggest mistake was making the clones all too sympathetic and "human." A few standout clones here and there would've been fine, but the show really should've focused on non-clone characters. It also turned the droid army into a goofy incompetent punching bag, and not the Republic-ending threat it's supposed to be. The CIS was supposed to be, overall, "winning", giving leverage for sidious to prey upon republic desperation and fear, so he could get total militarization and absolute power over everything. He held the CIS army back and allowed republic victories where needed to "prove" his methods worked, to prove that he was right.
>>741005905Okay, Baby's Second Cold Steel.
>>741005960Try as they may nobody will ever give a single fuck about the ST era. Kylo Ren blows up the entire republic, killing trillions. The heroes of old all failed miserably. Luke tried to kill his nephew. The Jedi Temple you see him building in Mando or Book of Boba Fett or whatever fucking random show that was burns down and all his students are murdered. Fucking *Rey* turns out to be the last Jedi. It's ogre. The timeline will never ever move away from the PT/OT, especially the 20 year gap between the two; it's the only part anybody even remotely cares about anymore.>what about the Gosling Starfighter movie that takes place 5 years after Rise of SkywalkerNow that'll be fucking funny.
>>740999453Grievous was cooler.
>>741001852>so Obi Wan split you in half too? I didn't know he swung that way. >yes, it was a bullshit swing. Cut my legs clean off.>ohhh you mean in a fight>wait, what were you talking about?>drink your baja blast maul
Shadow Collective game would be cool
>>741006017>They're perfectly loyal to the chancellor/emperor and no one else, only 'loyal' to jedi because the chancellor told them to be.They're perfectly loyal to guy they've never met rather than to their brothers in arms lmaoDo you not see how that justifies a cop out
>>741006017The chip is organic, it grows in their brains. It's literally something they're born with. People think it's a literal chip, like an SD Card, when in reality it looks like this.
>>741006086Their only solution is to retcon it all away without a hint of remorse. So simple, they could do it right now.
>>741006017Honestly "they were indoctrinated since test tube birth, some experienced enough to overcome the brainwashing" makes more sense than "evil brain chip got turned on but conveniently not for the main characters"
>>741006017I'd argue making the clones sympathetic but still having them 100% go through with Order 66 is more nuanced than anything. There are people who you can befriend that will turn on you from some form of higher loyalty either to a job or something else. The person ordering them to kill all traitors to the republic is Palpatine himself. That is something they just cannot ignore, nor can it be superceded.
>>741005450lets not forget about her voice>>741006157that's a good one
Wasn't Darth Maul supposed to have a more prominent role in the originals but he ended up being a complete jobber?
This wasn't a bad duel imo.
>>741000842He was fleshed out quite a bit in some of the books I read as a kid
>>740999643Bringing characters back from the dead is ALWAYS bad.
>>741001448>EU shitlol
>>741007342T-800, Gandalf, Captain Barbosa, Wesker
>>741006017Take it up with George Lucas.
>>741007784>T-800Different Terminator, reprogrammed with new paramters. >GandalfServed a narrative purpose. > Captain BarbosaPointless fanservice but it worked out because the actor loves the role. > WeskerSilly but RE is also B-movie schlock.
>>741007917Sounds like there are moments where bringing characters back from the dead isn't ALWAYS bad then.
>>741007917Wow it's almost like you can explain something and then if the result is good people will accept it
>>741007917What about Jesus Christ?Sounds like bringing a character back from the dead isn't always bad.
>>740999504>ashokaShe was always fucking retarded
>>741003512>>740999453Bringing back Maul and retconning the clones to have chips in their heads for order 66 had to be two of the most retarded decisions of Clone Wars writing. That, and turning General Grievous into a comic relief character.
>>741007987Almost like that's not the case with SW.
>>741008096And she was a good friend.
Instead of getting to fuck Mara Jade, Luke became a fat old volcel living alone on a rock and sucking tit milk out of a manatee.
>>741008174Lucas didn't retcon his own story regarding the clones, Karen Traviss just assumed wrongly.
>>741006017>The inhibitor chip was an asspull to avoid writing themselves into a corner, because they portrayed the clones too heroically and compassionately. That is EXACTLY why the chips were fucking retarded, the clones were set up to be prime drama material, heroic, human, compassionate, but still obeying orders without question. It sets up a tragedy. It sets up conflict, it sets up an emotional load. Then the chip throws it out of the window.
>>740999453He's pretty cool but I still kind of hate the way the villains were handled in the prequels.Should have just been one character.
>>741001580NTA, but retconning Leila into Luke's sister was a mistake.
>>741008380low iq idiot. palp couldn't do all of that by himself. he need count dooku.
Did Luke ever have sex? I think he's canonically a virgin.
>>741002403I mean, the problem with Darth Vader is that he's a iconic villain but also one whose story very much ended. You know how it's going to end so there really isn't much to do with him. But he's also too important and too iconic to not feature him.
>>741008174>Bringing back MaulIt was great.>retconning the clones to have chips in their heads for order 66Not a retcon. Just an elaboration on how the Kaminoans made them totally obedient without question. As we can see in Revenge of the Sith, every single clone turned in the middle of the battle without a moments hesitation, just moments after being friendly with their Generals, and unilaterally responding "It will be done, my Lord" to a weird hooded hologram they'd never seen before, who they somehow know is a Sith Lord. Clones have always been programmed, and we see how that was achieved. In the same way midichlorians were an elaboration on what Luke meant in Return of the Jedi where he said the Force was strong in his family, which obviously meant it was hereditary and therefore related to blood.>turning General Grievous into a comic relief characterThat's how Grievous is. Did you not watch Revenge of the Sith?
>>741002758>There's an interview where Witwer explains how Filoni taught him to essentially disregard canon because "this is all just stories told in a campfire" and he explains it positively, and it's the saddest shit ever.I mean, I think there is SOME merit to the approach if there was some deliberate attempt at ambiguity here and there. But a lot of it just gets downright silly, and largely contradicts things that are not ambiguous.
>>741008237Except it very much is
>>741008346You are incorrect. The tragedy is that all of that is stripped away, and in the end they were organic droids, not so different from the droids they'd spent years fighting and trying to distinguish themselves from. There is a reason why the droid theme in played when we first see the clones. It mirrors the droids and their restraining bolts. The whole series is seeped in dramatic irony, the clones trying to distinguish themselves from droids while spending three bloody years fighting them, trying to carve out their individuality in an army where everyone looks and sounds alike, when in reality both the clones and droids are manufactured programmed disposable tools, and that reality comes crashing down on them when they are finally being activated to fulfill their primary programming, the one purpose they've been created for. All their attempts at being individuals stripped away, only programmed purpose remains. For in the end, they are organic machines, created in a lab. Quite ingenious on George's part, really.Please, don't try to pretend like you understand Star Wars better than the man who created it.
>>741005846>He doesn't kill anyone else other than obi-wan, eitherWho should he have killed?>LeilaWorth more alive than dead in both cases. Even then he absolutely would have had her executed if it wasn't for using her to discover the Rebel base in a New Hope.
>>741008346>but still obeying orders without questionBut that'd be thoroughly retarded if you're showing them doing precisely the opposite during multiple seasons.
>>741008307>Karen TravissWhy does everything wrong with modern sci-fi franchises always involve this bitch somehow
>>740999453>Was he really THAT cool?No. Now his weapon on the other hand..
>>741006649Yes. Yes it fuckign was. A petite 165 cm tall woman using a brute force style against Ben Swolo is fucking bad by default. It looks retarded. The duel COULD have been good if she used finesse and wits but that requires actual competent writing and coreography.
>>741008451I agree. Count Dooku should have been the only villain alongside Palpatine. He should have been the one to kill Qui Gon, he should have been the general Kenobi killed on Utapa.
The Jedi didn't notice that the clones were evil and had computer chips in their brains? Oops! I guess you should have meditated harder. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3nuk8UI76M
>>741008491
>>741008491>Did Luke ever have sex? In legends he got to fuck the Emperor's former servant. In new canon the closest he ever got was kissing his sister.
>>741002758>Honestly I feel the worst for Sam Witwer, you can tell he lives and breathes SW and he has fucking Filoni as the dude he has to listen to and learn from. There's an interview where Witwer explains how Filoni taught him to essentially disregard canon because "this is all just stories told in a campfire" and he explains it positively, and it's the saddest shit ever.You're omitting crucial context here. Witwer was narrating an EU audio book about Darth Maul, from the time before The Clone Wars, and it contradicted what they would do later with Lucas on TCW, so he went up to Filoni and asked if maybe they should retcon the EU book to make it fit with the show that came later. Filoni said that no, it's okay, and the book should stay as it was originally written and it's okay for them to be different. Filoni saved some EU slop book from Witwer's attempt to change it to match the show.
>>741008706The Jedi being kind of stupid and arrogant is part of their prequels characterization.
>>741006285Nah. Just take advantage of this and have a galactic dark age in the next movie. No central government, either evil or good. Plenty of room for new Dark side users, criminals, or other amoral warlords to develop without making the heroes seem stupid.
>>741008491Maybe he had sex with someone, but Lucas said that he doesn't get married.
>>741008583...on Reddit.
>>741008740Now explain Filoni knowingly changing Ashoka's lightsaber color from her novel to the Siege of Mandalore, both depicting the same event, for literally no reason other than he felt like it. He gave Witwer that advice because he followed it himself.
>>741008846No u
Modern Star Wars storytelling revolving around those dogshit 3D cartoons is just so retarded.
>>741008684Dooku would never turn to the dark side if Qui Gon was alive. He loved him.
>>741008831Lucas is such a weird cuck.
>>741009051Should have changed Ben Solo into secretly being his kid. Go all the way with the King Arthur reference and actually have him fuck his sister and that fucks everything up.
>>741008890There was a reason, actually. Very good thematic and narrative reason. It showed Anakin's attachment by making it the same color as his lightsaber, thinking it's "better", because he views their relationship in a possessive manner and wants her to be like him in everything - something that leads to his downfall just hours later, his constant obsession with "fixing" and tinkering things, in an attempt to "fix" his relationship with Ahsoka. Also, don't pretend like you've actually read that shitty novel written by that landwhale E.K. Johnston, who created a trans clone trooper named Sister. You're doing it for the grift, and everyone knows it. She was given just very little detail needed to write a single page of flashbacks. It's not the full story. She was not given the original scripts of the Siege of Mandalore. And what we saw from the concept arts from the story meeting with Lucas was different from what she wrote in the book, the original concept arts with Order 66 happening aboard the Republic cruiser is what we got in the show, unlike what was in the novel. So please, you obviously don't know what you're talking about.
Filonijew thread.
>>741009254Filoni, please. You don't care about established canon and feel like doing your thing every time you write something new, which is why somebody that doesn't even like Star Wars bothered to try and stick to what other authors had penned before him more than you. It's fine. Just accept it. Add a couple more wolves to the setting while you're at it.
If Rex was able to resist Order 66 why wasn't Commander Cody?
>>741006703Books weren't canon even then. He's a jobber who only existed to be killed off
>>741009254Why did he write Thrawn like utter shit in the Ahsoka show? And I'm not even talking about EU Thrawn, but Disney canon books Thrawn, also written by Timothy Zahn in 2017.
>>740999860>maul gets cut in half and dumped down an bottomless pit>lives>qui-gon gets one little hole in his belly>dies instantlykek imagine being a Jedi. The Dark Side mogs the fuck out of the Light.
>>741009516Because Rex was a character create to be the writers' pet.
Maul coming back may have been a stupid asspull but stories revolving around him are some of the best Star Wars content outside of the original trilogy.
>>741009516Rex didn't resist. Only for a few moments. Because Fives died in his arms trying to uncover the whole thing, which deeply affected him. Part of him believed Fives and thanks to that he pieced it all together when the whole thing came down. Which is why he told Ahsoka to find find Fives before he started blasting her. Cody didn't know about any of that, just like any other clone, so they just carried on as usual.
>>741009505>>741009682He also changed Kanan's backstory between a canon comic and the Bad Batch premiere. Dude doesn't give a fuck. He doesn't realize that if you want to be on the team, even as captain, you gotta be a team player. That doesn’t mean taking your toys and going home if you don’t like how someone else plays with them. If you get into a situation where anyone who's created anything can decanonize whatever anyone else does with that thing, you get modern Star Wars where nothing makes sense, fits or ultimately matters.
>>741009682Is he that different from EU Thrawn, though? The guy who got killed because he somehow didn't bother to look into his bodyguard's race and their relationship with Leia/Vader. And the whole thing with "I know all your military tactics by looking at your piece of art" has always been monumentally retarded and it depended entirely on the shitty trope of entire races being defined by one singular characteristic. It's like being able to defeat humanity because you looked at Mona Lisa. In the old EU, Thrawn was a staunch Imperial. In the Disney novels, Zahn fell in love with his OC, and turned him into a grey anti-hero, who doesn't like the Empire is only in it out of necessity to defeat some outside threat to his people. He just can't handle the fact that his OC is an evil fascist serving an evil fascist government, and it's pretty sad. Filoni's Thrawn is more in line with the old EU Thrawn, but it's also obvious that Filoni isn't capable to write convincing military victories, and he basically does "Ah, I am losing my troops and ships, but it's all according to my keikaku, yes." TL;DR: Thrawn always sucked.
>>741009907Only films and TV matter. Everything else is disposable. Always has been.
>>740999453>Was he really THAT cool?He was played by Ray Park, so yes.
>>741009690I mean that's kinda the point unironically. Dark Side users cling to life at all costs because for them there's nothing after death. Maul survives getting his legs cut off. Anakin survives burning to the bone. Sion survives being a walking corpse. Comparatively Light Side users ""give up"" quicker like Qui-Gon or Ben Kenobi but they then get to join the Force and live on as Force Ghosts. It's the ultimate Egoism vs Selflessness angle that George plays with when it comes to the Force, with Anakin and Luke and such.
>>741010040I like the original novels. And while you can argue about the actual quality of the writing, I think it works as a contrast to the previous villains and suits the changed status quo for a post RoJ universe. Granted, whatever issues I might have had with Heir to the empire is completely overshadowed by the fucking shitshow that was the sequel trilogy. But I do still think that the core ideas are a much more natural continuation of the original trilogy and that Thrawn is part of that.
>>741010040>TL;DR: Thrawn always suckedDave, buddy, you gotta try and be subtle when posting here.
>>741010097I really wish that wasn't the case. Granted, George Lucas is also partially guilty of this. But at least he's the original creator and largely gets a "I can do what the fuck I want" free pass.Disney retconned the old expanded universe only to completely ignore their own new novels. It's laughable, frankly.
So, now that Mando and Grogu is a confirmed bomb... what is next?
>>740999453Yes children, me included, thought he was cool when the movie came out.Since then everybody has realized he is a undeveloped non character with a silly trying to hard to look evil design
Lol sto trying to atgue with Filonijew in good faith.
>>741010212I wish he genuinely thought that way, then maybe we wouldn't be subjugated to this overrated blue smurf discount Star Trek villain for the last 10 years.
>>741010519He appeared in a cartoon and a mediocre sequel to that cartoon.I fucking wish he was more prominent. Sequels could have used a villain like him instead of discount palpatine.
Darth Vader got his fucking ass kicked by Debra Wilson in that EA Star Wars game.
Karen Traviss' take on the clones was more interesting and nuanced than TCW
>>740999453Lucas was going to make him the main villain of his sequel trilogy actually.
>>741002403it always makes me laugh in star wars how everybody waits for their turn when doing these multifights instead of trying to hit him at the same time
>>741010853He literally killed debra wilson the first time they had an actual fight
>>741011472She brutally beat him and severely damaged his cybernetics. He got lucky.
>>741011535He was literally laughing at her and trying to goad her into it just like he did with Luke
>>741006649Sorry, I simply cannot accept Rey's choreography as anything other than awful. In all 3 films any time she is holding a lightsaber.
>>741006017>>741006206>>741006398>>741008346>Anti chip slopI wonder who's behind this post?
I don't understand why they keep making shit about him after Palpatine utterly humiliated him.What's the point of following a rule-of-cool character who has been completely humiliated?We even know how he dies.
>>740999643NTA but they had to completely re-characterize him when he returned, so now his main, initial appearance is now somehow the outlier for the character.That makes no sense.
>>741013157Did you not read all those posts
>>741013304Because that gives him impenetrable plot armor and infinite license to fuck up any situation he shows up inHe is still intimidating to rando lowbies and the audience knows that even more than the characters would
>>741002153When people make this kind of appeal I can't tell if they are defending Disney or trying to say Lucas is a retard too.
>>741013730Who gives a shit about lowbies though?Even the new show realizes they probably aren't entertaining enough for the viewers and had to throw Vader in.
>>740999453Friendly reminder that maul died in episode 1 after being cut in half and dropped down a mile long reactor shaft.If you see him returned with robot legs or some shit then what you are viewing is NONCANON
>>741013587Did you?
>>740999453>originally planned Nintendo but project got canceled by DisneyWe were robbed...
>>741013815People tend to care about the main and secondary characters of a show or game or whatever that you spent the entire story getting attached to
>>741005413It's designed to vibrate your prostate (gay af)
>>741013943You mean, they are supposed to.
>>741013929I wrote one of them, and I was blatantly defending the chip, you illiterate retard
>>741008502>iconicI hate movie purist so much
>>741002403>it makes him look weakThat's because he is. He always was. The only thing he really excelled at was piloting.
>>741013992A lot of people cared about the story of jedi fallen order/survivor
>>741010142So did they make like a droid upper half to go with his old legs?
>>741008638>>741008307What her problem?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oQbkoYhymQ
>>741002403Yeah people are so fucking obsessed with him showing up, but the fact that he failed to kill Maul just makes him look like a pussy. Even the inquisitors got closer.
>>741014000Clearly not if it can easily interpreted as against it. Work on your framing young padawan.
>>741014047I'm talking about the new Maul show.
>>741002403What is this?
>>741002564He hasn't been cool since Sidious had him on his knees begging like a bitch.
>>741014106Traviss has a very consistent MO when she moves into an IP>Step 1: Select an underdog faction>Step 2: Promote them as the real heroes and turn them into borderline mary sues>Step 3: Shit on the established heroes as much as possible to make her faction look better by comparisonStar Wars fans were the only ones that put their foot down when she pulled this, so she moved on to pollute Halo and Gears of War instead. A reminder that if you see ANYONE attacking the inhibitor chip that Lucas helped create, they are Traviss shills who are pissed that her garbage got correctly and necessarily retconed by him.
>>741014167"Star Wars: Maul – Shadow Lord" animated series, takes place sometime after ROTS.
>>741002403Not much better in the games either. I can't even think of any major character he's killed prior to Obi-Wan besides Cere Junda in Jedi Survivor.
>>741014209Never forget that She kill off Mara Jade without Troy and Aaron approved.
>>741001448Nigga he got cut in half and wasn't allowed to die. I'd constantly bitch too.
>>741001210Uh....no?
>>740999453How can a loser be cool? He gets cut in half by obi wan. He gets slammed around laughed at and shock tortured by sidious while begging for mercy. He's such a pussy.
>>741014835People often love underdogs and tragic characters more than they love the heroes who always wins
>>741006114Backstory and everything about him except him constantly losing in that 3D clone wars show was cool. The 3D cartoon network one was absolutely amazing and showed the absolute menace he actually was.
>>741014947He's not an underdog though, he pretty much just punches down in all his appearances post Phantom Menace.
So i am just checking gifs from 2097 grievous and I found a new BRAP meme. Enjoy
>>741005846didnt he kill a handful of imperial officers by choking them
>>741013936>twilek>be generically engineered by an ancient race of enslavers to make your females hot to most humanoid species and also be able to be bred by most humanoid species>said race also made you males bitch weak, so your entire species is constantly being passed around through history from enslaver to enslaverI really wonder how twilussy feels like
>>741012350The last trilogy never happened tho
>>741015543He was about to straight up murder a general who was shit talking the force in the first movie before Tarkin stopped him, and killed both an admiral and captain in the 2nd.IIRC he had a tendency to kill imperial commanders so often, Palpatine had to step in to remind vaders that command staff didn't grow on tress and to stop murdering them at the drop of a hat.
>>741014051Yes. There is the dick of maul fucking shit around the lowest parts of the underworld.
>>741014492Good.Making Luke kiss anybody who isn't his sister was a mistake.
>>740999453design wise is the perfect ow the edge
>>741015596headcanon retard kys
>>741015930The George could make Luke kiss Leia forehead.
>>741016056>t. male twilek
>>741015298>>741015098Enough with this bullshit.
>>741015298what a fucking force of naturegenndy wrote him like a snowflake, but fuck, it was cool
