>sued in New York>sued in UK>now sued in NetherlandsHow do you feel knowing that you'll witness Valve fall to their own greed in your lifetime?
>>741001256I don't know about the other but in the netherlands it requires petitions and autographs by gamers. No one is signing that shit.
>>741001256shouldnt have messed with the rothschilds sweaty...
>>741001402i saw that in the netherlands they can just pretend to represent a potential group by just pointing it out and defining it without needing any petitions or autographs at all
>>741001256>Pointless time wasting lawsuits that never amount to anythingMust be a pain being a Valve lawyer and having to put up with this farce.
Can't wait for Schreier's "Why Valve failed" cover story.
>>741001256can we talk how targetted and coordinated this is?
>>741001256>Valve refuses to float publicly >Black rock starts a campaign of jewish kikery against them with baseless lawsuits and attacks on their payment providers >Still losesDon't you have children to bomb moshi?
>>741001478Lots of nation states in the EU are like this. They weren't ever equipped to have the kind of infrastructure that's ran wild with NGOs. Here in Denmark they don't even have any lobby regulations, but the exact same thing is happening that happened in the congress where political agendas are all just the pet project of some high paid "firm" or "group" passed off as if it's the politician's ideas.
>>741001524Yeah it's really weird
>>741001256Rothschilds tried and failed, what chances do others have?
>>741001524world governments bow to tim sweeney
>>741001256I never got why its not ok for valve to charge 30% but it's ok for xbox,nintendo and sony to charge 30% while the latter 3 also charges the consumer for the hosted online infrastructure with monthly subs while Valve just hosts it out of the 30% cut and offers it freely for developers and gamers they even host it for people that bought it a online key where they get a 0% cut.Can anyone explain?
>>741001524see>>741001449
>>741001256I thought the "beat the rothschilds and now getting sued" was a meme the first time but it just seems too coincidental at this point
>>741001256Based! Fuck valve and their simp cucks!
>>741001256
>beat a rothschild patent troll in court>within months more pop up
>>741001256>Valve fall to their own greedvalve falls to the rothschildsthey really don't know that they're playing with fireyou never ever ever touch gaming
I have a PS5 for modern games and use gog for the rest, I really don't understand the obsession with steam.
>>741001524see >>741001449
>>741001685Consoleoids got jewed so hard for so long it converted them, and now the mere idea of a company not screwing its customers over as hard as possible sends them into a frothing rage.
>>741001256Good.
Can't Steam just point to this and go this is why we need a 30% cut. Bunch of retards harassing Valve with lawsuits burns money.
It is definitely weird how this is all coming out at once. The whole thing regarding price parity for steam keys and the 30% cut has been a known thing for a good chunk of time, with a lot of "uproar" coming from 2015. What took them so long if this was truly an illegal thing?Nah, something is up.
>>741001872Steam has SOVL
>>741001650They're still trying, this is what that looks like.
>gaben dunks on megajew rotschilds and tells them to fuck off with their patent trolling, in court>suddenly a huge uptick in valve hate on the internet and lawsuits outta the assi am nooticing
>>741001779>>beat a rothschild patent troll in court>>within months more pop upgaben needs to be careful. pic ultra related. both died within a couple days of each other RIGHT after winning their over a decade long case. imagine a fucking superyacht just going down while anchored by a "water tornado" >The Bayesian sank Aug. 19 off Porticello, near Palermo, during a violent storm as Lynch was treating friends to a cruise to celebrate his acquittal two months earlier in the U.S. on fraud charges.
>That guy getting fucked because he's helping an old guy who got his LEGOs stolen>That other guy who's going to jail because he exposed what's going on in UK's slaughterhouses>ThisWhy are we arresting the good guys?
>>741002221because the bad guys are in chargeeverywhere
>>741002192Cool it with the antisemitism
>>741001256Timmy will lose, worldwide.
>>741002221Reminds me when Wizards of the Coast used actual Pinkertons to steal magic cards away from a guy who accidentally received them.
>>741001524>targeted and coordinatedNOOOOO NOT MY FAVORITE CORPORATION
Steam can drop their mandatory price parity and people will still buy there. But then the vultures will come after console digital stores. Better be prepared sniggers and tendies. I personally don't really care as I always pirate.
>>741001685because those other platforms have physical games retard
>>741002093It's a stupid argument too. If steam lets others sell steam keys for much lower than the steam price they will have to host all the infrastructure at a loss. Which they are already doing on every steam key sale since they do not even get a cut from it but people buying on steam makes up for each person buying a key online. if everyone starts buying steam keys outside of steam because its cheaper they will just bleed money and probably will have to start asking gamers for subs which will be worse for everyone except for developers and publishers in the long run.
>>741002204>the boat anchored half a mile off the Sicilian coast in Porticello, Italy. It chose a stretch of water favored by the Phoenicians thousands of years ago for its protection from the mistral wind and, in more recent times, by the yachts of tech billionaires.>“It drives me insane,” said Giovanni Costantino, the chief executive of the Italian Sea Group, which in 2022 bought the company, Perini, that made the Bayesian. “Following all the proper procedures, that boat is unsinkable.”
>>741002287nah fuck kikes, israel must be destroyed
>>741002353Barely, my recent console game purchases have either been game cards or discs that only have half the game on them.
>>741001256Kut nederland.t. leeft onder een steen
>>741001256>>741001735>>741001774Shalom!
>>741001256Getting sued by NY and the UK is basically a badge of honor
>>741001256oh no gaben is gonna have to sell one of his yachts
>>741001524>win against a Rothschild in court>this happensmerely a coincidence goyim
>>741002351>redditfrogposter being retardedpottery. the price parity applies only when you sell steam keys. you can sell your game on steam for 60 quid and then sell it for a dollar elsewhere, as long as you don't use steam keys for that
>>741002353why not lower the cut on digital sales then to provide gamers with cheaper games?
>>741002351I don't even get why this is wrong. Why would a store want to work with someone who is deliberately abusing the relationship by selling expensive on steam to drive sales to another storefront?
>>741002351if they are required to drop price parity, they should sign exclusivity deals just like epic games and drop ubisoft and others that have their own platform
>>741001256Jews are petty and will pull any golem they can find to punish those that don't bend the knee.
>>741001872>having a PS5 for gamesAnon, I...
>>741002353Console plebs must think its 2010 or something.Watched a friend buy cuck of war "physical" copy and then spend hours downloading it lmao.
>>741001524
>>741001256Are they suing valve because they are a private company?
>>741001256Gabe will never kneel to communists.
>>741002567Among other reasons.
>>741002567One of the many reasons.
>>741001449funny how nobody is calling them out or cancelling them
>>741002353Does your game work offline? No, it requires updates and DLC.Does your game even have a game? No, you bought a Switch 2.
>>741002567Private company, beefing with visa/mastercard, not bending the knee to patent trolling from the rothschilds etc.
>>741002567Yes. Valve keeps 100% of it's gatcha box revenue and this makes jews seethe
If this affects my game library, I'll just quit gaming wholesale and take up something more productive, like child trafficking.
>>741002353they're paying 30% plus $15 cart tax to Nintendo who offer basically none of the shit Steam does for free
>It's just the same Tim Sweeney cope shit and trying to force it to look like they're suing on the side of gamers or some shithttps://nltimes.nl/2026/06/11/dutch-gamers-file-eu220-million-claim-valve-operator-game-platform-steam
>>741002540>Tendies recycling their memesJust like their favorite company recycles their games, how cute
Any big corporation is constantly dealing with lawsuits. It's just part of the game.
>>741001256They should just collectively bar anyone from targeting Steam unless its criminal and not just some claims about "Muh monopoly" or "Ideological purity" bullshit, this is clearly lethal legalwarfare.
>>741002620>normalfags cancelling their mastersthat's not how it works
If valve loses gamers will have to put up the bill. Everyone knows this is not about cheaper steam keys or the lie that it's for the consumer. Every game on the epic store goes up full price despite a lower cut and promising that gamers will see lower prices. publishers just want a bigger cut and can't stand that they have to go to steam to sell their product because that's where the majority of gamers are..
>>741002221>>That other guy who's going to jail because he exposed what's going on in UK's slaughterhousesQRD?
>>741002843This. Steam's competitor's (mainly Epic) are behind the lawsuit. This is capitalism, too. If you can't come up with a better product, sabotage your competition.
>>741002109>electronslopno
>>741002960they can stop publishing on consoles then. no one is forcing them to pay 30%
>>741002221dont forget>the epstein war in Iran
>>741001256Why aren't these groups throwing tantrums about console pricing too? They are 30/70 too and yet, nobody gives a shit.
>>741002960Epic and other publishers are extremely upset they can't fuck consumers in the ass unhindered due to steam.
>>741003068Doing hardware costs tons of money though
>>741003093Valve's making their own hardware. Problem solved.
quickest rundown on the rothschild and patent part? what was the patent?
>>741003093luckily they SELL that hardware at a profit.
jews really hate valve don't they ?
>>741003160they want complete control of the gaming industryunfortunately i think it's just a matter of time after gabe dies
>>741003160private companies are anti semitic...
>>741003007Harassment campaign is not capitalism, that's just crony bullshit. (notice the medical companies not having to pay for shit.)
>>741003150It was a really stupid patent:>A system, method and device for media content storage and delivery.Source: https://patents.google.com/patent/US8856221B2/enValve back 2016 paid money to basically be exempt from being sued by Leigh Rothschild. One of his retarded lawyers sent a lawsuit to Valve for this particular patent with the Steam Deck, then Valve slapped back.
>>741003093So do server farms and online infrastructure.
>>741003221they want all the industries under their palm so they can propagandize their CIA backed Jews The Good Goyim The Bad narrative.
>>741003221>he doesn't knowGabe's already transcended humanity. What you perceive as Gabe is just a meat puppet controlled by The One True Gabe from beyond the stars. If you were to lay eyes on Gabe's true form, you would claw out your eyes and shit your pants.
>>741003160Valve is private so they can't have pice of that cake.This is antisemitic
>>741002402an honest man's face
>>741002620You have to give credit where credit is due, the big suitfags who actually run everything are really good at keeping attention diverted away from them. Like reddit is losing their fucking mind over Elon Musk becoming the "first" trillionaire when its pretty obvious there's at least 2-3 people/groups ahead of him that keep their real net worth under wraps.
Remember when /v/ coped and seethed, making up fake stories about him losing in court, for years over his Apple and Google lawsuits? Then he won. Apple and Google got spanked, and are now getting spanked more due to the attention Tim's lawsuits brought to these practices. Despite all of this benefitting you and being done purely out of Tim wanting a better ecosystem for consumers, you still seethe at him. That's ok, the walled gardens are coming down regardless of you thanking him or not.
>>741003150https://finance.yahoo.com/news/valve-wins-trial-against-patent-170100758.html?guccounter=1basically rothschild has several companies that only exist to hold patents and use that to shamelessly sue people for patent infringementin 2015, valve was sued for violating patents, in 2016 at the end of those cases, valve bought out a perpetual, irrevocable and worldwide license to use those patents and rothschild was ok with that for 6 years, then in 2022, they were contacted via linkedin by someone representing rothschild and saying that he can offer them an opportunity to pay more money despite already having that license from 2016, then they got sued right after ignoring the linkedin messages
>>741003393they are private until they become public under the hands of the post-Gaben company.
>>741001685>I never got why its not ok for valve to charge 30%Because the reason Google, Apple, Epic and every other store gets away with it is jews are able to buy shares and then start bossing them around. Valve isn't publicly traded and they generate the most profit-per-employee in the world hands down. There's a lot of investors out there permanently buttmad that they cant get their slice of the pie.
>>741002402this mongrel runs the worldd. fuck
>>741003593Stop sucking chink cock nigger, be less obvious about your CPC shilling.
>>741003593I still don't know how he won those in the end, the first apple court case was so fucking retarded and had some of the funniest Timmy Tencent moments.
>>741001685>I never got why its not ok for valve to charge 30% but it's ok for xbox,nintendo and sony to charge 30%I've never heard anyone make this argument. But every thread on /r/steam has someone reciting this exact point like it's a gospel scripture. You are tilting at windmills.
Why don't Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft get sued for being monopolists in their consoles?
>>741003593Apple lawsuit openly exposed he wanted a preferential deal and wasn't interested in the poor downtrodden gamers.
>>741003593>being done purely out of Tim wanting a better ecosystem for consumersLmao no. Thim does this because he wants the goodwill that Gabe has. It's all performative.
>>741001256>win against them>suddenly and by total coincidence the entire legal system is against youFunny how that keeps happening.
>>741003702>I've never heard anyone make this argument.People dont really make it, but other companies love to pay shitters like Kotaku to make articles crying about how le heckin evil Valve takes such a greedy 30% unlike other developers (who also take 30%). Your average retard normie who only looks at headlines and believes everything Facebook tells him believes whatever they say as fact.
>>741001685None of the accusations are meant for (You), just like the retarded "le chuds are review-bombing StS2!" discourse when anyone can go on Steam and confirm in 5 seconds that the overwhelming majority of the negative reviews are in Chinese. All those easily debunked lies are meant for the majority of the population, aka uber retards who never investigate any claim they're told and just accept it being a guy in a suit said so and all other sheeps are also not investigating.They hate Steam because they don't control it, they'll lie to convince normalfags to do their bidding, they've given up on convincing (You).
>>741002353there's no such thing as "physical" video games, it's not a pinball machine. Whether you store it on a disk or an SSD, it is still software.
>>741002474That is not true. The price parity applies to your game regardless of steam keys. This is in the agreement you have to sign when you publish your game on steam. I don't know why people are still pretending this isn't a real thing.The thing is Valve selectively enforces this, so in practice it does happen sometimes that other platforms have lower prices, but Valve reserves the right to remove your game from steam if they feel like it is being unfair to valve.
The jews are going after valve because gabe refuses to bend to them.
>>741001774How's Lebanon? Are you tired of FPV drone spam? I hope you catch one in the ass.
>>741003884I can find games on GOG cheaper than Steam, I can also find it on Ebin as well.
>>741003705Jews.
>>741001513Won't they have the time of their life right now? This shit has been smacked down before in the US and EU, all they have to do is point at those cases and take the checks home.iirc the last time such a case was immediately dismissed the moment Valve lawyers talked about gog and co.
>>741003937Even if you are certain to win it can still be draining to have to jump through pointless hoops constantly.
>>741002204>>741002402
>>741003840A lot of these lawsuits have been going on since well before that, you just don't hear about it in the /v/ echo-chamber.
>>741003930That completely aligns with what I said, so yea I believe you.
>>741003884NTA but price parity regardless of it being enforced or not does not seem unfair to me.Imagine you were selling a car at a dealer and then you decide to put it up for way cheaper on like Ebay or your own site or something where you get a larger return. Then you get upset that the dealer doesn't wanna do business with you? Get real. Anybody would have the right to think that it's deliberately trying to lead away customers from their store, and if that's the case, why are you selling at the store in the first place?
>>741002361That entire steam key shit is the equivalent of wanting to go to Walmart, put up your own homegrown potatoes on the shelf, and claiming you deserve 100% of the profits as if you aren't just blatantly using their infrastructure (building + visibility + their own workers processing the sales). That steam key "debacle" is a retarded jewish farce.
>>741001685It's information warfare. The point is to appeal to the uninformed so they act as another vector of attack.
>>741001256good, it's time to break their monopolistic position
>>741003309>>741003602I don't understand how the patent works, because as far as I know anyone that uses cloud streaming does the same thing?besides that, if they agreed that valve can use the patent, then the jews suddenly want their money could not be more kikish behavior even if they triedalso ''patent troll'' and ''patent troll prevention act'' being things used in court is hilarious
>>741001256feels good knowing we are going to finally enter an era where monolithic united states corporations will become powerful enough to tell little shithole countries to fuck off and not face any consequences
>>741001256Gaben vs world jewrygive Gaben all your energy bros
>>741004220>as far as I know anyone that uses cloud streaming does the same thing?This is the core part of patent trolling, you patent something everyone basically uses but word it in a way so that you can get the patent for it "technically" then sue people whenever you want to for the lulz.
>>741004257The Lego guy will winIran will winGaben will winAnd kikes will be burned and turned into compost
>>741004239How did you figure that when the US has never been weaker since WW2? That makes zero sense.
>>741004090>That entire steam key shit is the equivalent of wanting to go to Walmart, put up your own homegrown potatoes on the shelf, and claiming you deserve 100% of the profits as if you aren't just blatantly using their infrastructure Ironically they already allow that by allowing them sell steam keys outside of steam. But they wont allow them to incentivize people to prefer buying them outside of steam while Valve still has to put up the cost of the infrastructure. And that's still not enough for greedy publishers lmao
>>741001524Rothschild lost, so now valve faces all manners of lawsuits.Also, note how it's mainly the phonefag shitposters and wojakfags that support it. Same fucking apes that have an interest in shitting up anonymous discussion on 4chan.Biiig coincidence I'm sure.
>>741004390Its all Indians that got upset about the steam giftcards and getting hit with a "fuck your money, go suck dicks" move by Steam. The timing is always the same with these events.-> X happens anti-steam/GabeN activity increases, they never claim where they are from but you can bet your ass they are not human or white.
>>741004257FOR GABEN
>>741003884you are, of course, going to post a link to steam's tos that substantiates your claim?
>>741001256whens someone going to sue nintendo for a monopoly with their store?
>>741004083From the legal perspective these kinds of things are really on a case by case basis. There isn't a general and consistent legal interpretation of these price parity or most favored nation clauses that you can use. There are cases of these things being thrown out of court and cases when they lead to a successful anti-trust case. Walmart for example does this kind of stuff in an even more extreme version than Valve, but they basically get a free pass. It really comes down to the sociopolitical environment and what judge/jury you get.
>>741004515you can't sue jewsyou can, but you can't
WE ARE GABE NEWELLWE CARRY THE FLAME
>>741004376desu there's leeway even with the incentives. Fanatical has turned to my go-to for keys since you can almost always get them on sale, new release or not. I think they've gotten around it by offering discount codes for purchases.
>>741004257FOR GABEN!!
>>741004515i did see some mentioning a sony lawsuit and how only having their os and apps connected to the sony store is monopolistic behaviour in one of these threads so maybe it will spread to all of them because of the tim lawsuit on apple?
>>741004367The US is weak, the companies housed within the US are strong. Big US tech companies and payment processors literally control the world.
>>741001256>Getting sued means automatically you're wrong and totally not some jews trying to get some shekelsShalom
>>741004757what is their business model? how do they get steam keys to sell for cheap? do valve still get a cut so they dont care?
>>741004796This is funniest shit to me, Steam positions itself as a software licensing store platform, not an exclusive games platform even if they started as their own game hosting system. Two different things, its like a store opening up its own thing and selling items it likes and someone from China comes in and complains:>REE WHY ARE YEE NOTTO ZERRING OUR CHEAP CHINK SHIT! YOU MUST BUY AND SELL NOW! RACIIIST REEE!basically same effect: nobody cares.
>>741004367>when the US has never been weaker since WW2?lolstop consuming telegram propaganda little bricsnigger :)
>>741004757yeah theyre slightly cheaper but youre giving up refunds. it's a fair tradeoff
Why are there so many billionaire asskisser on 4chan?
>>741004768That lego zoomer got totally silenced. How is this meme 100% correct
>>741004257
>>741004913Why are there so many faggots trying to claim gaben is evil after he got in trouble with the jews?
>>741004849Truth be told I don't know. I think they're getting them from devs/publishers directly.
>>741002620The rothschilds? Bro, they represent all israelis and jews in the west. You're likelier getting bombed in your city than getting them off of anything, and they're currently trying to prevent goyim armies from rising against them by deterring men from joining.
>>741001524Could be SteamOS related. Mobile phones are 100% compromised, there will be a push to move people on to versions of windows which run full AI surveillance. Valve are the primary competitor and they probably aren't playing ball
>>741001256Damn, the rothschilds got really angry after losing.
>>741004804>Big US tech companies and payment processors literally control the world.This is not how it works, which is why the US spends 1.5T on military. Social media, web, payment processors, these only control things when the status quo is stable and you're on top. Which is why the moment China restricts exports of actual physical materials that keep all this going, Trump changes his tune overnight. The newest trending fad on social media only matters when you have all your comforts, when infrastructure isn't getting what it needs to keep chugging along people forget social media even exists very quickly.
>>741003093That hardware is locked down in functionality and they get a cut of every single penny spent on itThe hardware isn't even discounted by 20% anymore Nothing justifies consoles taking a bigger cut than steam while giving you less
>>741001524Cool it with the antisemitism bro.
I like steam because I can remote play emulated games on retroarch with my friends without them having to install a emulator and install it and get the roms. they can just jump in as player 2 with a click of a button. I mostly only emulate old games though.
>>741004913Communism is instead ass-sucking and head-fisting the trillionaire's asshole at China.
If Valve went public and got investors 100% of all the lawsuits would drop the next day
>>741005440Each day they don't go public they are losing potential money on the table. why doesnt anyone think of the shareholders?
BASED Gaben keeping their filthy hands out of his company
>>741001449no one even likes jews anymore (this is a good thing)
>>741003593>Despite all of this benefitting you and being done purely out of Tim wanting a better ecosystem for consumersPUBLISHERS. He wants a better ecosystem for PUBLISHERS. He hates your guts and that's why his first course of action when starting up his store was to pay for exclusivity so if you want to play a specific game you have to go to his store only. He's the one building walled gardens, not tearing them down.
>>741001449they didn't, they agreed to paid the jew for same thing before, but retarded jew broke civil rule of suing them for pre settled case, this upset the court. Valve literally played good goy here
it's probably more about the superyacht company and fleet / diving
>>741001449They don't even hide it anymore
>>741005440Investors would 100% make them lose more money than those lawsuitsIf Steam turns to shit, I have backups of my games; I won't have any problem going somewhere else
>>741006006They can't because of the nature of the internet (which is why they want full control over that too and probably will with digital id's and censorship)
>>741003593this cunt is ruining gaming not only with his gay lawsuits but also with his bought out exclusivity deals and getting every dev to use his god awful engine
>>741005027You guys were telling me just last week how the Jews forced the US Government to release more manly military recruiting ads because they needed more goyim to join the military and fight against Iran.
>>741006179Dead timmy is a deader chink presence, think of athat.
timmy tencent won
>>741003593Oh, speaking of the apple lawsuits.....does picrel ring any bells?
>>741007104>uhhh thats not what we meant by organic your honor
>>741004804tech companies and payment processors are extremely weak companies, because they don't actually deliver a unique product, just a monopolizing platform that can EASILY be replaced as soon as the geopolitical winds blow differently. If a large country decided to block google, they could make their own search engine easily. sure, it might be slightly shittier than googles (fat chance these days), but it's not exactly like replacing Carl Zeiss or ASML or some other world-class product. It's not like replacing foreign resources with your own non-existent resources, platforms are fucking trash technology and they only become world-leading by being slightly better earlier than other platforms, and then people just keep using it because it's the easiest choice.
>>741004469this isn't in the terms of service. its in the distribution agreement, which technically could be unique for each game.and i have a feeling you already knew that i wouldnt be able to provide a link, but you asked anyway. curious.
Antisemitic thread
>>741007262>this isn't in this agreement, its in this other agreement that's different across multiple gamesHow convenient for you, huh?
>>741001402>>741001478>>741001524>>741001449>>741006179>Americans asking their ai for law adviceRead the news dumbass Americans. Duch consumer commute is the one who is suing. Stop defending your corrupt corporate masters.
>>741007527>''consumer''
>>741007467based corporation defender. what would gamers do without guys like you
>>741001256>NY>UK>NLI wonder if some specific group of people have overreaching power in those places...
>>741001256steam should stay a monopoly by any means necessary
>>741007605Asking for proof is defending corporationsHow adorable!
>>741004913why are there so many shitbrown bricsturdies on 4chan? shouldn't they be on their 'superior' brownoid non-english websites?
Can someone give me a TLDR of the drama?What happened with Rorschild and what's this new lawsuits about
>>741003702>I've never heard anyone make this argumentEpic Games makes that argument.
>>741003702The console storefronts take 25%, not 30%. (Except from the big publishers, who negotiate individual deals for 20% or less.) But regardless, whenever this argument about the cut that's being taken from developers and publishers is made, it's never about the industry as a whole being in the wrong. Tim Sweeney never complains about Xbox and PlayStation taking their cut. (Because Epic gets special treatment on those platforms, which shows you that he doesn't give a shit about small developers at all.) It's always about Steam, because Steam is actually fair. Steam doesn't take the size of your company or any preexisting relationship into account when determining how much you'll pay them for the use of the features of their platform. Everyone pays 30% on the first $1 million in revenue, then 25% after that. Meaning that large games that are "guaranteed to sell," are paying Valve a whole $300,000 more than they pay Sony or Microsoft. Timmy is getting bent out of shape over an amount that's a rounding error in the yearly revenue of Epic Games.Sure, that'd add up if you were releasing five or six blockbuster games on Steam every single year, but that's the point. Valve takes a smaller risk on unproven games by taking a bigger cut, and they make up for smaller developers who may never cross that threshold by making the biggest players play by the same rules.
>>741007605you came here to convince people your opinion was correct, and you were given an opportunity to explain yourself and provide the evidence that backs up your claim for people to readbut instead of doing that, you got angry that somebody dared ask you to show the proof now your 'opinion' can be simply discarded without any further consideration, because you don't even care enough to explain it properly
>>741007741>>741007761>>741007767the cavalry has arrived. i dont even have to go to reddit anymore, you guys bring it here straight to me!
>>741004257>>741004390>>741004468Supporting corporate interests instead of reading the news of Dutch costumer commission lawsuit claiming it harmed Dutch citizens who were unable to obtain games without Steam being the only platform to obtain said game.Get help
The more Rothschilds attack Valve the more games I buyThe more Chinks try to get EGS to attack Valve, the more DLC from Steam I buyThe more Credit card companies try to pressure Steam to get rid of hentai games, the more I use physical money and only use my credit card for steam
>>741007832Nigga, it already is off to a bad start by misrepresenting the fucking price parity clause.
>>741007715Rorschild is a 4chan conspiracy theory from /x/ it has nothing to do with gaming. The Dutch consumer commission is suing Valve for only allowing games to be sold on Steam. This means you couldn’t have obtained certain games without Steam being used or sign up.
>>741007715And now suddenly, Valve is getting sued everywhere and lots of concerned """"""consumers""""""" are clutching their pearls at 30% (that thing that only Sweeney actually benefits from spreading the discourse. The man who is on record as saying he believes astroturfing is ok.)
>>741007832>without Steam being the only platform to obtain said game.So the dutch are pissed gsmedevs wont release their games on other storefronts. Lol.
>>74100782810 V-Bucks have been added to your account.
>>741007934>Rorschild is a 4chan conspiracy theory from /x/
>>741007873>>741007936>Samefag>Same conspiracy theoryWhat a loser
>>741007934>The Dutch consumer commission is suing Valve for only allowing games to be sold on SteamWell that's stupidSo it's like an anti-exclusivity thing?But I was under the impression that you CAN sell your game in other platforms than Steam? I don't get it
>>741007934>Rorschild is a 4chan conspiracy theory from /x/Rothschild literally just lost a lawsuit to Steam over patents.Rothschild even got a mayor in new york to attack Valve after he lost out of anger
>>741008014Womp womp
>>741007832Is Ikea forced to sell its furniture at other people's stores in The Netherlands? Is a small chocolatier forced to sell its products at Ahold? Is Epic given shit for not selling Fortnite on Steam or GOG in The Netherlands?What's the argument here?
I'm so tired of jewish tricks bro
Two days ago I decided to join a Steam family group of random poor kids for shit and giggles: already played many of those games, why not share them?They went from having 200 games to almost 700; they were pretty happy, to say the least. Just saying.
>>741001256>sued in New York>sued in UK>now sued in Netherlandsand valve will win every single one
why won't EA sell non-EA games on Origin why won't Blizzard sell non-Blizzard games on bnet? why won't GOG or EGS just open their store to ALL game submissions, with some kind of automated process to speedily list them on the catalogue for purchase?It seems like Steam is the only competently run digital storefront to me. All the rest are run by monopolists who are refusing to sell my game. They should be MANDATED to sell my game. EA and Blizzard and Epic Games have a RESPONSIBILITY to list my game on their stores; Gaben is the only one who is actually SUPPORTING me!
>>741007934>Rorschild is a 4chan conspiracy theory from /x/the things one reads on /v/
>>741005835If you care about the Hitman trilogy, you hate Epic, for the shit they pulled (1 year exclusivity deal, and telling you buy the games you already own on Steam again on the EGS), simple as.
>>741008014>>741007934>NONONONO THIS IS JUST A CONSPIRACY THE ROTHSCHILDS DINDU NUFFIN WRONG!!!!How much do they pay you?
>>741008036Probably it's the usual "you can't sell Steam keys outside Steam" but they're wording it as "Steam doesn't allow you to sell games anywhere else".
>>741008036Yes but in America the same lawsuit is currently ongoing and judge has allowed it to move forward to court. There is enough evidence to prove monopoly and Steam cult are in denial.>>741008038>Conspoery theory based on nothingStop it, that’s all you can ever say about it. Never new information or facts.
>>741007527Idiot. The Dutch don't have actual class action.They only have representative action, which allows any legal person that qualifies a set of transparency rules to sue on behalf of a defined corpus of people, e.g. "all gamers that have Steam accounts" without ever actually collecting signatures. The only thing they need to do to make the case admissable, is convince a judge they are adequately acting in the interests of that group, and that group is suitable large and well-defined to warrant the case.They do not need signatures: they can count you as part of the corpus without. And there is nothing you can do to explicitly exclude yourself from it. The only thing you can do is choose not to sign up with them, which will not associate you to the case by name and means if the case ever pays out you gain nothing from it. But they legally still count you as part of the corpus that would allow them to take such a case to court.(It's an utterly fucked part of the Dutch justice system and it needs to be KILLED and replaced with proper class action.)
i have this strange feeling in the back of my head(not a bullet) that a lawyer they hire gets bribed and blunders, sabotaging some part of the case
>>741007934But...thats basic fucking marketing.So these retards belive that buying a noninvasive ad gives my business an unfair advantage in the market?
>>741008149>Lost Australia>Lost game controller>Lost illegal EU geopolitical lawsThey will lose
>>741007610You're not implying it could be...?
What gets me the most is that the ones who sued / stirred their countries' consumer protection agencies into action are indie developers, the ones who benefited from Steam the most. Dante made the deepest circle of hell the one in charge of punishing the ones who betrayed the people who did good things for them.
>>741001524it really is funny how instead of using his v-bux billions to make more good games and stay a gaming company, timmy decided to engage in all-out lawfare with every company in the technology space.
>>741008078Ikea stuff is common stuff, only you Americans think it looks completely different.
>>741001256>look into the Dutch "gamer" group>private equity investors
>>741008281Has a real Dutch, reading it on my language instead of your American propaganda news. The CCC is the one who is suing, the price is illegal, we should not be allowed to overpay on products because of nationality. You are not Dutch, you Americans will never be us.
>>741008224>STOP IT IT'S JUST A CONSPIRACY THEORY!!!And yet your only proof of Valve's guilt is....a case moving forward.If kikes are investing in shillbots, they need to stop recriiting fucking indians to train them, jesus
>>741008224>Yes but in America the same lawsuit is currently ongoing and judge has allowed it to move forward to court. There is enough evidence to prove monopoly and Steam cult are in denial.valve has already conceeded to changing their distribution agreement.the reason these copycat lawsuits are popping up is because the original one is still on going but obvious will win against valve.
>>741008465
>>741008606How is Steam a monopoly when I can buy games from GOG, the EGS and the Ubisoft store?How is Steam a monopoly when I can do a fresh install of my OS and never install the Steam client?
>>741007832>claiming it harmed Dutch citizens who were unable to obtain games without Steam being the only platform to obtain said game.This is a blatant lie by the way. So yes, I'm going to side with the company that provides excellent service and cheap games to me, instead of trying to take part in its destruction because some turbokikes are mad because it's privately owned and can't be ruined by muh shareholders.
>>741002221>>That other guy who's going to jail because he exposed what's going on in UK's slaughterhouses???
>>741008586A case that a small indie dev called Wolfire has been fighting for over 5 years. Your support for Corporate America is strong but facts never change.
>>741008465I don't think I need to look up the Early Life sections of the founders. I already know.
>>741008771Wolfire is a jew furfag who tried to leech off Valve's infrastructure.
>>741007828>make a bad faith, false claim>several people prove you wrong>uh oh, the heckin shills have arrivedYour concession has been accepted, ranjesh.
>>741008540I am Dutch and you're wrong, these ''consumer'' NGO's only work on behalf on corporate lobbyists but push the narrative that they are standing up for the consumer but in reality they are protecting who ever pays them. Why do you think they're asking gamers to sign up for their petition after suing them instead of the other way around? En nu je bek houden mongool.
>>741008334good morning sir
>>741008771>WolfireAh yes, he who consorts with beasts. And he's tried this lawsuit over and over and lost......uh how many times already? >facts never change, so let me just omit the ones that are inconvenient for me
>>741008771>Wolfire>creators of OvergrowthThat's all I need to know.
>>741002353Good thing developers can just burn the CDs without having to pay sony
>>741008606No they changed the arbitration clause and created percentages changes for Corporate studios. Nothing about new rules on contract the developers are required to sign.
>>741007934>The Dutch consumer commission is suing Valve for only allowing games to be sold on Steam.This is such a hilarious fucking lie that I can't believe there are people who actually believe it.
>>741008402It's still a product they only sell in their own stores. If you're saying it's too generalizable to really count, how is it a problem that a billion independent shooters, action games, puzzle games, and walking simulators are technically exclusive to Steam, when you can buy plenty of alternatives in the same genres elsewhere? Why can Nintendo sell Mario games and Smash Bros exclusively on their own storefront without issue? Those are all in relatively high demand, shouldn't they be forced to publish on PC, Xbox and PlayStation, too?
>>741008960Im not a lawyer, thank the light, but Im genuinely curious how this doesnt get laughed out of any court as soon as people actually look into it. There is literally no basis for this except some retards saying it is so.
>>741008724>>741008875>Being racist to Japan dev>Now being racist who is not American by rising prices for DutchYou are supporting awful policies and corruption.
>>741008721there are legal tests for anti-trust which you could go read on wikipediai dont have a dog in this fight, but im just telling you guys, the reason this stuff is all sparking up right now is because the case is not looking good for valve. >>741008925the problematic clauses in the steam distribution agreement have been changed voluntarily by valve independently of the result of the lawsuit.
>>741002523>>741003865>moving the goalposti win. you lose
>>741009082>Group of lawyers sued Valve one by one each day to overwhelm them>voluntarilyO.K old man go back to sleep
>>741009065>Now being racist who is not AmericanSAAAAAR PLEASE HATE VALVE THEY RACIST TO DUTCH PLEASE SAAAAAAAR!
>>741001256They killed tf2 so I'm happy with it, even if I have to pirate my games from here on out.
>>741009082>the reason this stuff is all sparking up right now is because the case is not looking good for valve.The angry kike in the corner is completely unrelated, Im sure
>>741009082>the reason this stuff is all sparking up right now is becauseBecause it's a coordinated lawfare campaign with financial backing from a certain cretin whom I suspect is initialled T.S.
Valve is a net positive for gaming but they do need to cut up with the dark monetization shit
>>741009291thats a nice boogeyman story. but its much simpler than that.there is blood in the water and lawyers like an easy case where they expect to win.
>don’t go public>every single jewish puppet is tries to take you down
>>741009082>there are legal tests for anti-trust which you could go read on wikipediaAh I'm sure you can go ahead and copy paste those here very quickly then.
>>741009215>>741009264>>741009298>Rising prices>Illegal Geographical price gouging in EU>Stopping our friends in France from getting account transfer>Lying to our friends in German about ownership>U.K asking them to follow copyright lawsThink anon think, they only care about American values not EU rights that help people.
>>741002353Back on the ps2 era maybe.
>>741001256>Fighting against the Rothschilds is considered 'greed'
>>741009551
>>741009581>Think saar, they only care about American values saar! THEY DONT CARE ABOUT EU SAAAAAARRRRR!!!Stop yapping, jeet.
>>741001685Reported for antisemitism!
>>741007104>Epic's template for their EGS strategy was fucking Mixer
>>741009674You told me the source was wikipedia tho?Take note everyone. You put the smallest ounce of pressure on a shill's claim and they immediately crumble. The Rothschilds are not sending their best.
>>741009581I'm >>741009298I live in a third world country and they have regional prices, something that no other gaming company in the history of the world even thought about having, because it's an unfathomable concept.
Shut the fuck up steam drones. The following should be laws:>Digital store fronts may not charge more than 20% under any circumstances>Digital store fronts may not arbitrarily remove games because devs/publisher sold them cheaper elsewhere>Lootboxes are gambling and to be treated like one, including loopholes like x-ray from cs2Make no mistake, Valve is already breaking laws but because justice is retarded and slow unless you specify it in exact terms they get away with it. Laws mention no anti competitive prices (steam preventing devs from selling elsewhere for cheaper), or no gambling or lootboxes (steam bypasses them with xray in cs2) etc. Valve is a corporation staffed with legal teams who know what they are doing.Valve is merely paying for breaking laws for decades. Cope and sneed.
>>741009485>It's a conspiracy! The timing is a complete coincidence! Stop looking into it!Hmmm. Glowie or shill? Maybe both?
>>741007262>i can't prove it but it's totally there bro, trust melemao fuck off kike
You lost the lawsuit and everyone hates you rat.
>>741009850>Valve is already breaking lawswhich ones?
>>741009082>anti-trustI said monopoly, not anti-trust.
>>741009850>least buttblasted shillKeep funding Wolfire, Im sure they'll get Valve this time. What, seventh time's the charm? Or is this their eighth attempt?
>>741009850>Digital store fronts may not charge more than 20% under any circumstancesVery nice. Surely this will help decrease the games price for the customer, right?
>>741009726Just because you Americans don’t have friends because you made Canada stop buying from you and Mexico not agreeing to lower prices of food. Doesn’t mean you are the better country.
>>741009960triple a slop already pays 20% at steam.It's only indies getting buttfucked.Really no reason to make it 20% globally. Gotta protect indies who have no leverage like big publishers do.
>>741009581Your post instantly tells me that you don't live anywhere in the EU
>>741007934lmao
Knowing Epstein posted here, OP is likely some Rothschild kike.
>>741010063>Really no reason to make it 20% globallymeant "really no reason not to"
>>741010029Americans are the reason your native language is english and not russian. Remember that.
>>741009823alas i have been bested. you have me found out. i am indeed an online contractor from the indian sub-continent, financed by a secret faction of the Rothschild banking dynasty in collusion with Tim Sweeney and the Chinese Communist Party.I'm coming clean now because the guilt is too much to bear. i understand that piracy is a service problem now. I understand the transcendental fairness of the 30% fee. I now truly understand that i should use steam because its simply a better service and all of its competitors just shoot themselves in the foot, its like they want to lose.
>>741010063The reason is simple, more games = more infrastructure cost. Steam already has issues with way too many slop games cluttering their servers and shop, they don't need even more of that.
>>741006006They realized they don't have to.Goyim won't do shit.
>>741001524We could but it'll be difficult with the pajeets paid to drown out any conversation about it. It's really obvious these are frivolous lawsuits with shit standing, though.
>>741010161>If I say objectively true things in a sarcastic way, they become false
>>741010121only kikes would want Steam to get sued? And communists Chinese want to delete Steam because they won't bow down to their communist legalese. Epstein was a lurker not a poster.
>>741010210>200 mb indie game downloaded by 12 guys is too much we have to charge 30%>300 gb game downloaded by millions of people? that's lightweight, charge them 20%again the only reason indies pay 30% is because they have no leverage and gabe the kike is exploiting this and why wouldn't he? it's not like retarded drones like you care in fact you lot hate indies.
>>741009937The U.K 1980 copyright act, its very old you know.
>>741009850Valve doesn't prevent you from selling on other platforms, that's why its not monopolistic they are just arguing for fair price for both steam customers and your own, its actually anti-competitive price cutting that follows MSRP standards already. (please sell this game at this price point, make it market-wide decision.) type of thing its not a monopoly.
>>741009950No, Valve lawyers are delaying their work and it’s a legal tactic that they used in Australia.
>>741001256>sued in New Yorkistan Socialist Republic>sued in British Caliphate>now sued in NiggerlandsFixed.And?
>>741010343>that's lightweight, charge them 20%You left an important part out>after charging them 30% for their first million saleslying by omission is still lying, kike rat
>>741010343Indies are popular because of steam. Look at mewgenics numbers. Look at the clip of the indie dev that cried tears of joy on stream upon seeing his sales numbers.
Gaben's son is about to start driving in the 24 hour endurance racing at Le Mans. Wish the man luck.
>>741010083You are right, UK is not part of EU
>>741010404its nothing like MSRP. Valve is not the manufacturer of someone elses game.
>>741010473Its neither European, Tikka Masala eating niggers aren't white nor human, neither are their mayors who happen to be muslim niggers, lmao. CATTLE.
>>741003613"Not publicly traded"Crazy man.
>>741010436Certainly going to make a huge difference for triple a who make dozens of millions revenue
>>741003602Who the fuck sues someone for ignoring them of linkedin? No one has a fucking legal obligation to answer their linkedin messages.
>>741010454That's not thanks to steam thoSteam didn't made mewgenics the same way steam didn't make helldivers 2 the same way steam didn't make vampire survivors the same way steam didn't make amogus the same way steam didn't make...want me to keep going? I can keep posting a hundred games that you in bad faith say "Steam made it!", when no, steam didn't do shit to any of the games I posted to make them "popular"You are dishonest and borderline delusional thinking Steam made them popular
>>741010346how so? genuine question
>>741002620>cancelling the rothschildslol the absolute chutzpah on this goy
The whole "muh monopoly" argument is fucking retarded. The gained that monopoly simply by being the only one in the market and it's not like they are actively trying to stop anyone competing with them.This is like trying to disqualify the winner of a race who won, because nobody else bothered to show up.
>>741010284Nice try yid!
>>741010554Losing 30% of several million in valve tax does make a big difference, yes. Do you not know how percentages work, kike rat?
>>741001449Those nigger jews sued Valve first, they were just defending themselves.
>>741010690there's only one way and it looks like a zyklon B pill, gas chambers or a firing squad.
>>741010404That's none of Valve's business. We all know the real reason: If they allowed people to sell different elsewhere that would harm their profits. What are you a 13 year old falling for some flowery bullshit at valve corp types for a blogpost?
>>741010603So how many sales did EGS contribute?
>>741010603Steam allows them to sell & advertise via the store alongside having forums, workshop and etcetera alongside it. Steam makes indie games easily available and if it gets virally popular everyone already knows they can look it up on Steam instead of needing to jump hurdles to make an account elsewhere.Of course, games like Minecraft are an exception to this but even AAA slop like Overwatch caved in and started selling on Steam.Many games on Epic Games' platform see literally zero space in the public consciousness until their forced exclusivity on EGS run out and they release on Steam
>>741010783Literally only steamshills bring up epic in these threads like anyone cares.
>>741010754>it really is as simple as us wanting to harm Steam profits, we don't want to sell our games there because we can't harm Valve.Go fuck yourself by running in front of a train then retard. Bad faith actors like yourself need to be ran over like glownigger feds.
>>741010473You live in corruption central and you're moaning about this
>>741001524nope that's illegal.
>>741010838Everyone already knows these lawsuits are forced by good ol Tim
>>741010810This is like claiming government is responsible for everything good in a country because they charge tax.
If they destroy steam, I'll make life's purpose to [FEDPOST]It would kill gaming as we know it. Unironically, there would be nothing more to live for.
>>741001524oy vey hes noticingshut it down
>>741010838>Steam didnt make them popular!>so how much did they sell on other store?>REEEEEE NOBODY CARES STEAMSHILL!!!!!
>>741010838epic is the reason anyone even has this conversation you fucking morona retard with an insolvent subsidised store put this retarded idea in people's heads
>>741010843>WOOOW You want to attract customers to a better place like your own website where you don't get charged 30 fucking percentage? FUCK YOU. *removes your game*
>>741010915It's a cog in the machine like anything else, but a really good cog. We already know what happens to most games that sell on bad storefronts (they don't get popular) and how moving to Steam impacts them (positively, if they didn't, why do people want to sell on Steam?)The whole argument is that other storefronts should get to undercut Steam and they should be perfectly fine with that happening without selling on Steam. Or maybe they can sell on Steam but just have their discussion forums and advertising gimped and see if they're still popular after that.
>>741010915Because taxes go into building and supporting citizen infrastructure like piped water and roads. Maybe not in your shithole coubtry, but that's how taxes work.
>>741011002Cope. Everyone hated steam since day 1 before shills flooded in and used boogeymans like ea, epic, jews (implying valve is not jewish) etc.
>>741011020see >>741004083
>>741011020If steam bad why need steam?You can publish your game cheaper elsewhere it's just not going to be on steam lol.
>>741011063What's wrong with undercutting? I thought steam offered "superior" service? If they truly are superior they shouldn't remove games for that alone but they do.
>>741002353in australia at least all the physical stores made deals with publishers so that nothing digital could be sold for less than the physical price...
>>741001256How many people did Timmy lay off to fund all these copy paste law suits all over?
>>741011169Yeah this argument is practically foolproof>FUUUUUCK STEAM I HATE STEAM, WE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO SELL ELSEWHERE>okay do that>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I NEED STEAM>>741011205Why should you be entitled to sell on Steam? They are not running a public service. They should be perfectly allowed to sell whatever that is legal however they wish.
>>741011224I was about to start hating, but I'm pretty sure we have something similar, not 1:1 though.
>>741001524People will think its a conspiracy against Valve but the more logical and reasonable explanation is the corporate sharks smelling blood and trying to get a piece. Both the UK lawsuit and the lawsuit in the Netherlands are begging for a settlement than an actual lawsuit. And the gambling lawsuit out of NY is being done by a DA more concerned with being on TV than doing her job. Mind you currently NY allows shit like Klarna which lets you gamble on anything and everything totally legally yet that chick is going after Valve.
>>741011083>steam had to prove that it's a good platform by adding features people want>almost two decades later a scummy retard wants to dethrone it despite not having those features and harping on about the cut developers get while his store isn't pleasing anyone
>>741011375The EU makes more money from suing American tech firms than they do running their ownWhen you understand this it makes more sense
>>741010720>Never watch F1Ya about that…
>>741011375People treat it as a conspiracy because threatening Valve basically threatens gamer investments into Valve (their game libraries). Naturally, people want Valve to keep doing what they do since most people who are on Steam like it enough to stay and don't want people shoving age verification datamining and price increases down their throats. Basically people defending Steam are completely rational in not wanting to get rugpulled by a bunch of companies they don't care to purchase from.
>>741010720>The gained that monopoly simply by being the only one in the marketThis is a dead give away you were not alive when Steam entered the market.
>>741010870Says the Americans who have UCF ring on White House lawn and wasting public money on a ballroom.
>>741011293Not selling on steam is out of question for basically evryone because everyone is funneled there. This wouldn't be problem if steam didn't do anti competitive practices like removing your game if you sell it cheaper at other places but they do to protect their monopoly.If steam is truly a "good" guy (they aren't they are selling gambling to children retarded fucks) they would allow people to sell everything wherever they want and not worry about a damn thing because they offer "superior" service like a lot of you claim. But we all know that's bullshit. Steam doesn't have superior service, steam has monopoly, steam has anti competitive practices, steam kills the competition through underhanded methods.I don't care what you believe in but most people believe entire pc industry shouldn't be under the whims of a single private entity who doesn't give a shit beyond funneling money to ceo's yacht company.
>>741001449>Rothschilds behind itI hate kikes so much it's unreal
>>741001524They are trying to tank the value of Steam and have them be in perpetual legal hell. This is the way of the tiny hat people. They've done with multiple companies already.
>>741001449yeah they are one bad day away from being plastered all over the net. All their holdings. All their connections. All their business, lands, and associated corporations.
>>741009638retard you can buy physical games from fucking walmart
>>741001256"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him" - Jonathan Swift
>>741011548agreed, steam should outright make everyone sign exclusivity deals like consoles because that's an accepted business model and the main shill of lowering steam's cut supports doing that
>>741011548>Steam doesn't have superior service, steam has monopoly, steam has anti competitive practices, steam kills the competition through underhanded methodsAnd now the part where you actually back up your steaming pile of bullshit with some facts.
>>741011413Can we stop pretending steam is popular because it's good? As everyone knows steam was there first and they were anti competitive. They knew what they were doing. There are several store fonts with better "service" but no one gives a shit.
>>741011426Tim Sweeney chimps out every time Apple tells the EU to fuck off with their overregulation.
>>741001256HAHAHAHAHAHGOOD FUCK VALVE
>>741009065rajesh, all you're doing is making me side with valve
>>741008540I am the anon who posted >>741008281 and I am Dutch.You are a moron who never read up on how these things work in our legal system. Congratulations.
If steam has and maintains a monopoly. How come Epic Store is a thing?
>>741011625Only happens in 4chan, this conspiracy is only talked here. You people have to leave 4chan and see how wrong you are.
>>741011682>There are several store fonts with better "service"Such as?
>>741011548>Not selling on steam is out of question for basically evryone because everyone is funneled there.There's nothing special that funnels anyone into Steam, it's their choice. Steam has lots of games, lots of support and isn't buying exclusivity.>This wouldn't be problem if steam didn't do anti competitive practices like removing your game if you sell it cheaper at other places but they do to protect their monopoly.see >>741004083You're basically complaining that you can't force Steam to be a public service that just advertises games for nothing in return>But we all know that's bullshit. Steam doesn't have superior service, steam has monopoly, steam has anti competitive practices, steam kills the competition through underhanded methods.If Steam did not have a superior service then what is making me pay and play on their platform? Why do devs need to go there to sell? Games outside of Steam can sell well, WoW used to sell decently, same with Overwatch before Blizzard torched their reputation. Minecraft was never on Steam either and that's the world best selling game of all time.Games are neither forcibly funneled into Steam nor do they need to be there to get popular. It's just easier to get popular there because... they have good customer service that lets people see games & get discounts and community in one bundle.>I don't care what you believe in but most people believe entire pc industry shouldn't be under the whims of a single private entityIt wouldn't be if their competitors weren't retarded, and it really isn't because Game Pass exists, GOG exists and so on and so forth
>>741011624Any company that is big and rich enough is going to be in perpetual legal hell. That is the nature of being big and rich. Right now Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo are also all involved in dozens, probably hundreds, of legal disputes around the world.
>>741001256>YOU WANT MY TREASURE, YOU CAN HAVE IT>I LEFT IT ALL AT THE SOURCE
>>741011682They were not first, they were last.
Who gives a single fuck what the dutch think?
>>741011682>it's not good because... IT'S JUST NOT OK????cope>There are several store fonts with better "service" but no one gives a shit.such as?no, gog isn't better, all it has is fucking installers which mean nothing to you if you have basic computer literacy, you can get the same functionality out of steam
>>741011548the several of the most popular games aren't on steam
>>741011840>you can get the same functionality out of steamYou literally cannot.
>>741011375why wouldn't these groups work together though, if they all have the same goal of suing valve? it makes more sense if they are working with each other
>>741001449why doesn't gaben just go to the Guelphs and tell them to tell the sneedchilds to fuck off?
>>741011863>STEAM IS A HECKIN MONOPOLY>Oh really? Where can I play Roblox, Fortnite, League of Legends, Valorant, World of Warcraft, Minecraft and Genshin Impact on it?>.....STEAM IS A HECKIN MONOPOLY
>>741011907yes you can you tech illiterate retard, zip the game files and keep a goldberg
>>741001524Just a coincidence goyim.
I genuinely believe that the majority of the hate towards Valve, especially on /v/, is just jealousy.I've used Steam for 15 years and never had a problem with it. But the past few years the shitposting around it has increased and its significantly more retarded than I remember 10 years ago. The complaints are always the most inane straw grasping bullshit too, the kind of non-sense that leaves you totally befuddled at what the fuck the other poster is even trying to say. But the upped levels of shitposting directly correlate with every other big mover in vidya going down the enshittification and rape your customers route way harder than before. So whenever I see some faggot go on a bender and spam 10 threads about Steam/Valve being the anti-christ of gaming somehow I get the distinct feeling that its some faggot who got raped by his vidya brand of choice and is now upset that people who use Steam are satisfied with the service instead of being as raped and miserable as they are.
>>741009065>rising prices for DutchExtraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.Please illustrate how there is a pervasive pattern where prices are higher, please.And keep in mind that EU prices are presented incl. VAT, which adds 20% on top of the gross US prices ex. taxes.
>>741001524>Valve indirectly supports the SKG initiative>countless lobby groups launch attacks against the SKG initiative>also countless lobby groups influence governments to throw lawsuits and attacks against the biggest indirect supports of the SKG movement, ValveRoss picked a big battle.
>>741011779>I don't care what you believe in but most people believe entire pc industry shouldn't be under the whims of a single private entityYou strangely cut the part with yacht, hmmmnow why would someone do that?
>>741011840Why do you need to have social network bullshit attached to your storefront again?
>>741011751If you’re a real Dutch citizen, you should have known how to speak to me in Dutch. Get lost faker.
>>741011923Because they want a chunk of settlement money. Its easier to join in on mass stinging Valve with lolsuits and pressuring the company into just giving you a couple million than to all join hands and spend a decade in court.
>>741012035>the shitposting around it has increased and its significantly more retarded than I remember 10 years agoIt's Epic-paid shills.
>>741012061>Valve indirectly supports the SKG initiative>drm slop corporation with yacht ceo giving a shit about consoomer rightsYou are a stupid as fuck little whelp
>>741011830I do, it was made i told CCC about the price hikes and send mail to them every single month.
>>741012085because it's useful?why are you bitching about the presence of features you don't use?
>>741011205>What's wrong with undercutting?Surprise, the shill trying to blend in with anime girls is in favor of publishers parasitizing off steam because reasons.
>>741012169Steam DRM is totally optional, not only that but its insanely easy to crack. There is nothing stopping any dev on steam from selling their game DRM free they just don't want to.
>>741011969This won't work for a lot of games. You might think it works because you're computer illiterate but you'll discover it doesn't work one day when you unzip a game you backed up and try to launch it and get something like an msvcrt.dll error instead.
>>741012085So I can see who has a VAC ban flag on their account for example.
>>741001256Honkies suing Valve because they aren't parasitic enough and give better options than the rest of their entire honky establishment in the industry. Doesn't Gaben know that he's white and he's not supposed to give fair deals or care about anything but invading and robbing?
>>741011765>*crickets*I wonder why this happens every time.
>>741004967shouldn't that kid be saving his power for his own struggles
>>741012049We have been recording it since Steam released Steam Direct: https://www.steamdb.com/en/tools/steam-price-history?appid=413150&name=Stardew+ValleyIt’s data science and it’s real
>>741012262then download that fucking dll and place it in the game directory, you fucking idiot? have you ever dealt with tech issues before?
>>741012154Based Timmie reminding us that corporations are people and are entitled to exactly the same rights as citizens of blood and flesh
>>741012198Fuck off normalfag>>741012278VAC shouldn't even be a thing, retards who cheat should be hardware banned from storefront and thats that.
>>741012262>This won't work for a lot of gamesLike what?
Why wouldn't just Rotschild just make a Steam competitor that offers better services and customer support?
>>741001524Sure sweetie
>>741012372>the store isn't better because i arbitrarily decided to dismiss its features
>>741004469It's secret and covered by an NDA and you can never see it. Fucking steam bootlicker.
>>741012035Snoys are on suicide watch and Xbox is just PC as a console. They're all migrating somewhere else now and are forced to adapt to change, so of course they're going to be loud and proud about it.
>>741008162Yeah that was one of the things that soured me on Epic. Another time was when they bought out Rocket League, first they took out the Linux/Mac native versions and then pulled the game from Steam altogether. Although I think people who bought it on Steam can still play it through Steam, I don't know because I refunded it.
>>741012035tendies are buttblasted that PC is the lead platform for every third party game and their downgraded scraps are just an afterthought
>>741009082>the case is not looking good for valveThe core of the case rests around three claims brought to court:1. Valve prevents publishers from setting lower prices for their games than on Steam.2. Valve takes a 30% cut on all transactions, which is too much.3. Valve engages in tied sales by requiring in-game purchases to also be done through Steam.#1 is false. Steam only requires this for Steam activation keys which they offer in batches of 5000 to be used for promotional campaign giveaways, or sales outside the platform without commission. And they have a vested and reasonable reason to do this - to prevent abuse. (Publishers undercutting Steam via their own sales channels; while offloading each sold key's ongoing operational costs to Steam.)#2 is false. Steam's commission fees are tiered. They only take 30% up to a certain number of sales, after which the fee lowers to 25%, and then 20%.#3 is false. Ingame micro-transaction purchases can be done through other means than Steam's wallet.(I know this for a fact, because I've done it in the past for a few titles.)
>>741012357>then download that fucking dll and place it in the game directory, you fucking idiot? have you ever dealt with tech issues before?You have to get the right version and you have no way of knowing which one. Ever wondered why there's like 2 dozen different versions of Microsoft Visual C++ installed on your computer right now? There's a reason for that. All the different games you've installed through Steam have all installed the one specific version they need to work.
>>741012154>I see astroturfing as valid free speechOf fuxking course you do timmy, there's no damage controlling this now >>741007104
>>741012525The weird thing about the 30% seethe is if Valve lowered it to 15% overnight the narrative would change to be: "WE CAN'T COMPETE WITH THAT KIND OF FEE! VALVE IS A MONOPOLY BECAUSE ONLY THEY CAN TAKE 15% AND STILL BE PROFITABLE!"
>>741012428hahahahhaha it totally is kike
>>741001673Tim Sweeney is just an emissary of the American Jewish cartel they want Steam dead if they can't buy it. They are going to bury Steam in legality until GabeN gets tired of the bullshit and throws in the towel and sells Steam.
>>741012035Valve has stepped on a few toes lately by popularizing "handheld" PCs and helping to make GNU/Linux viable for gaming. The usual suspects are pretty miffed
>>741012363>I want companies to introduce reply bots on my anonymous message boardWhy?
>>741012632If Valve dropped their cut to 15% it would kill GOG, EGS and the MS Store overnight because there would be *zero* reason to put your games on those stores. Then it would be a real monopoly.
>>741012718Tim has to be jewish with that ugly face of his, or at least incredibly heavily mutted, something is deeply wrong with his face.
>>741012152>Its easier to join in on mass stinging Valve with lolsuits and pressuring the companyyeah but there's no reason why this wouldn't be a coordinated thing, one company says "im gonna sue valve we should see if anyone else is down" then they agree to do it within the same time frame, putting more pressure on valve and giving them better chances
>>741012078Come on Timmy, do you think he's still got diamond teeth too? If you don't want to sell on Steam, just don't sell on Steam. You are not entitled to use their store and should be able to find another one that'll work just fine.
>>741012632Valve could charge 0% and these retards will still cry.
Press S to SpitSSSSSS
>>741012525>Ingame micro-transaction purchases can be done through other means than Steam's walletMost games that uses that strictly enforces separation between steam and non steam versions, like ffxiv or gw2 for example, whether that is done on steam behalf or not we don't know.
>>741007934>The Dutch consumer commissionThere is nothing 'the' about this organization.They are not goverment affiliated. They are an NGO that intentionally picked an official sounding name so as to conflate.And they get their financing via an untraceable party registered on the Cayman Islands.
>>741012765Its literally the exact opposite retardbro. Suing Valve in 20 countries by 20 different people is far more pressure than a single lawsuit because Valve with have to retain an army of lawyers to fight off the bullshit lawsuits for each case. If it were one case then they only need a small team of lawyers. The idea is to be enough of a nuisance that they get paid to fuck off, they don't actually care about winning.
>>741001402I'll sign anything if it'll get me some cash and I'm white. Netherlands and UK is full of niggers.
>>741012748Thats the plan it seems, then they can drag valve through courts crying that they cant compete.
>>7410125251) Incorrect information, developers sign contracts known as NDA. Wolfire did not like this and sue for antitrust violations.2) 30% is no longer the case and Steam complex rules give developers $100 USD in return of selling over 1 million copies. This doesn’t happen often. Studios get lower percentage (25%) because they reach sale points of 10 million or more.3) Micro-transaction restrictions is not legal in EU and other locations. Apple knows this very well. Valve sets the same standards.Stop your bullshit.
>>741012806that's because "these retards" are kike shills. they don't care how steam operates, they only care about not getting a piece of the action
>>741002960>Every game on the epic store goes up full price despite a lower cut and promising that gamers will see lower prices.they would either way, but tbf im pretty sure steam explicitely forbids selling games on other stores for like $50 while steam is $60
>>741010502>Valve is not the manufacturer of someone elses game.Valve also doesn't set prices on Steam. Publishers do that themselves.
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>>741012748>>741012632Itchio has it at any percentage, this proves nothing but you being an asshole.
>>741004967fuck you, man.
>>741001256>Don't be anti-consumer>Everyone else comes out of the woodwork to kill youhuh
>>741012879as always, pretending to do something on behalf of the masses (or the children) is a surefire way to fuck over the massesthere's no way to combat wolf in sheep's clothing tactics, is there?
Timmy had no problem putting his games on steam before. Why the change of heart?
>>741012879Anon, the same exact claims are used with Australia, Wolfire, German, France and UK. You need better material.
>>741012964>Wolfire did not like this and sue for antitrust violations.Wolfire has been laughed out if court several times already for not having a valid case. They try over and over because they're sponsored by (((them))) to act as the face of their resistance movement>Studios get lower percentage (25%) because they reach sale points of 10 million or more.So....a tiered system. >Valve sets the same standards.No they dont.Use claude to vet your posts, jeet. Dont be so obvious next time.
>>741012936next time instead of taking a minute to type out that bullshit take 5 seconds to actually read my post
>>741013095Americans were a mistake
>>741012879NGOs are often govt cutouts who use NGO labels to skirt accountability. They also do this with certain 501cs like their corpo friends in the private sector.CIA who are hired saboteurs and hitmen of govt by and for Wallstree loved/loves using them
>>741013148>surefire way to fuck over the massessurefire way to get something that fucks over the masses approved
>>741013156he's mad that no amount of money will ever get him what steam has
>>741013169>kikes coordinating their kikery around the worldno, really?
>>741013189My bad anon. I still don't think its a conspiracy as in planned, I more so believe its just a bunch of opportunists.
>>741002620>>741010690Technically if Valve sells the Steam Machine at a loss to build market, they can get a lot of consumers off of Windows and out of the influence-sphere from that angle.From there, you should know that Steam has built up what is basically a physically parallel internet to most the major exchanges that form the backbone of the public internet, which they sometimes partly use to reroute Steamworks multiplayer traffic in case of cross-connectivity issues between different world-regions because someone fucked up with (or intentionally messed with) the gateway border protocols again.They can use that to basically pull Steam off-grid. They actually have a close equivalent to a PHYSICAL dark net. And from there all it takes is for them to accept payment in their own crypto stable coin to give a fat finger to Visa & Mastercard.
>>741001256jews big mad theyre a privately traded company. thats all its really about.
>>741013185There’s no evidence or court documents claiming Wolfire had attempted to sue Valve many times. The case, the one and only had been dragged through the legal process because Valve lawyers were stalling to bleed Wolfire. Say what you want but if Valve doesn’t want a fair trial then that proves it’s committed to doing bad.
>>741012097As you wish anon. Remember; you asked for this.:: clears throat ::Lazer op en kruip terug in de vagina van je moeder, kutjong.
>>741013257Different people, different countries and different laws exist anon. Stop being a racist fucker.
Remember when EA sued Origin Systems (Ultima, RPG OGs) just so they would bleed more money and EA would be able to buy them?
>>741013424Honkies never needed fake ass paleface "Jews" as an excuse to be greedy amd squash fair deals/treaties to set an example for other fellow honkies to not go off script.
>>741001256The west should be left without gaems for trying these bullshit cases against valve.
>>741013313Honestly that wouldn't work, regulations exist against having "closed platforms", so Steam would only be allowed to have something like this if Steam Machine/Deck also allowed you to buy from GOG or itch.io or Microsoft Gaypass or something and made that compatible with Proton. Same issue as Apple having only their pre-approved App store whilst Android gets off fine because you can install other app stores.
>>741012354€ 13,99 incl. VAT$ 14,99 ex. sales taxThe EUR price is actually cheaper. Try again.
>>741001256you lost, Timmy
>>741007832>Instead of asking dutch game devs to put their games elsewhere as well, they sue steamYea that shit is so kiked
>>741011548>I don't care what you believe in but most people believe entire pc industry shouldn't be under the whims of a single private entitywhat whims are those? the only whims valve takes on are those of credit card companies who want to be the moral police and ban video games they think are bad
>>741013724no?
mods delete this antisemitic thread NOWit belongs on /pol/ if it should be allowed at all
>>741012835Marvel Heroes, before it was shit-canned due to Disney pulling the license after sleezy investors got me-too'd, used to have an ingame MTX store which allowed both. You could purchase directly via Steam wallet funds, OR you could use an external web-based storefront. They EXPLICITLY called out the existence of that external storefront in the ingame UI, which is another thing the claimants here claim Valve does not allow - and thus we can know, is also a bullcrap lie.
>>741013589No. I don't. Because that never happened. What actually happened was Origin was on the verge of bankruptcy because their games were expensive but didn't sell that well and so they sold themselves to EA to stay open for whom they largely made no money at all and so wound up being shut down.You're just like those retards who used to claim id's buyout was a hostile one when in fact id was well known to be desperate to be bought out and had been shopping around for buyers for years.
>>741013169Yes- and they are all brought concurrently. Which implies coordination.Has it occured to you yet that the NATURAL behavior for these type of cases is to wait and see how a case in one region progresses, and if it falls in your favor to THEN act - so that you have precedent on your side?But for some reason none of that is happening here.Curious right? It's almost as if winning the case(s) for consumers, and giving them good odds of things landing in their favor, isn't the actual goal here...
>>741013512>There’s no evidence or court documents claiming Wolfire had attempted to sue Valve many times.Wolfire initially tried to get Valve ruled a monopoly by trying to get the Steam storefront and Steam as a platform ruled as two separate markets by the courts. The courts had a good laugh over that and denied them. At that point they refiled with a new set of conjured up claims involving illegal price-fixing.
>IN NEW YORK>IN DETROIT>HE HE >EVEN IN LA
>>741013582>LazerDid you mean laser? What kind of awful Google algorithm did you get.
>>741013512>There’s no evidence or court documents claiming Wolfire had attempted to sue Valve many timesYes there is. Retard.
Is this the new BANNED IN THE UKIt truly is the citizen cane of memes
>>741013695>Steam would only be allowed to have something like this if Steam Machine/Deck also allowed you to buy from GOG or itch.io or Microsoft Gaypass or something and made that compatible with ProtonSteamOS has an open Linux desktop.Infact the Steam Machine is marketed as a full PC replacement because of that reason.And uhm... Proton is infact usable separately, without Steam.
>>741013724Not our fault that Americans decided to devalue the US dollar. Know your math.
>>741012574>You have to get the right version and you have no way of knowing which one.your pc is going to have the version that works? just copy that one?why are you pretending like this is some fucking problem when linux doesn't have issues downloading dependencies on pirated games that aren't even designed for it?
>>741014090Crime is crime anon, American values don’t matter in other countries.
>>741013886Yes.You forgot the ~20% VAT.The actual ex. tax gross of the EU price is thus € 11.66, which equates $ 13.56 after currency exchange.CHEAPER THAN THE US PRICE
>>741004849I believe they buy the keys in bulk from publishers/authorized key sellers, so the keys are technically second hand.
>>741003593>the guy who invests in the industry was the lesser evil all along not the hecking yacht man/v/tards was wrong about everything again?well, well, well...
>>741012938>I'll sign anything if it'll get me some cash and I'm whitethat is what being a nigger means, nigger
>>741014543>invests in the industry
>>741014223No, they were given written permission to make antitrust claims go through. The NDA contract was dismissed. This happens in court often and Valve had the same thing happen with patent infringement lawsuit. This is not uncommon to redo paperwork, it’s just something lawyers have to do.
>>741014290Then ask the government because they have it.
>>741014263Learn Dutch. The verb "oplazeren," the imperative of which is "lazer op" - is a pejorative way of telling someone to get lost.
>>741014610EA and Epic the two companies steamies deemed the satan are actively improving vidya software technologies while gaben is buying yachts.I am starting to notice...
>>741014354>Open sourceNo github or files open to the public. Arch is the only thing available for modification>Proton without SteamAfter one guy took a long time to create one without Valve involvement.Stop your nonsense.
>>741014715Gabe is literally the only guy supporting Linux which is the most pro-consumer PC OS on the market.
>>741014715>EAfucking loland epic is actively worsening vidya with unreal engine you fucking faggotthe world would be objectively better off if ue didn't exist
>>741014845>taking credit for free github projects>meanwhile EA and Epic have been employing actual workers with stuff like health insurance for decades>said engineers who come from places where they made compressions and calculations that made games like hl2 to basically anything you can think of possible>meanwhile Valve employees jacked off for 15 years and for all that time wasted they only managed to come up with steam ui changes and alyx bottle shaderswell, well well...
>>741014979>taking creditfunding and employing linux projects, egsjeet
>>741014715>EAThis is bait
>>741014979are you the same retard who thinks you can't use proton without steam?
>>741001256>Privately owned company offers a good service without shareholders shitting it up>Gets sued for performing too wellTypical
>>741014805>No github or files open to the public>>741014979>taking credit for free github projectsSo is it on github or not?
>>741001256We nose who is behind this post.
>>741014805>No github or files open to the public. https://gitlab.steamos.cloud/explore/projects/active
>>741015034wine was made for free you valvejeet
>He RAN
>>741015194>company does illegal shit>gets usedSTOP THE PRESSES
>>741014684There is no such thing as “lazer” in Dutch. That’s an English word, only Englishman say that. You used op which is up, thus you originally said “laser up my mom, etc etc”. You did not say oplazeren which isn’t even a bad word, it’s context on first words won’t change anything because then it’s “Go back up your mom, etc etc”. Sooo, ya you failed at google translate right there lol.
>win suit against a (((Rothschild)))>sudden and relentless lawfare from all anglesNooticing
>>741015445wine was fucking shit at directx 9, 10, 11 and almost completely nonfunctional at directx 12
>>741005115Good point, they're also playing with the idea of forcing linux to legally become spyware as well. SteamOS existing as a non compromised OS is a big nono to globohomo.
>>741015429>Not Valve CorporationThis proves people are making fan made SteamOS because?!?!?
>>741015079The fact you think that is bait shows how much of a secondary you are. EA contributed a lot on the software side of things.
>>741002204Yeah. Dude is going to get fucking whacked at this rate and his company picked apart by vultures
>>741001256NY is corrupt libshit hellhole and will get trounced in appeals court if it gets thereUK is full of libshit faggotry, see Meta/Google suits, it's just another shakedown or extortion Netherlands is a nothing burger joke
>>741012985That's only applicable to steam keys.
>>741007832Good. Fuck the Dutch.
>>741014979https://github.com/valvesoftware/proton
>>741015670>Not Valve Corporationare you fucking retarded?steamOS is trademarked
>>741012936>>741013271Anon, you only need two people to coordinate and you can sue them for conspiracy. Conspiracy isn't just some crazy gibberish, it is a legally defined term that includes planning both lawful and unlawful acts to commit something illegal alongside someone else.
>>741015557What did they do that was illegal? The only reason that they're being called a monopoly is because their services are superior.>Doesn't want games on Steam to be more expensive than on other platforms, aka price matching ensuring the best deal for the customer>Standard 30% cut for service fees>High marketshare because people actually want to use Steam
>>741015589They were sued in Australia, they were sued in Germany, they were sued in France. They got sued in USA and lastly, they got used in UK.Anon, Valve being sued is not new, since the DOTA lawsuit sue problem. Valve has always committed crimes. The conspiracy theory isn’t real.
>>741016013Breathing air isn't real. Stop painting everyone saying companies are working together as some /x/-tier looney toon.
>>741015897Sad day to see someone defending a corporate trademark instead of being freely available.
>>741009551I did that, although I explained them by myself, like two weeks ago in a similar thread. The response was coping and shit flinging without engaging with the substance. The average poster here is not able to get these concepts, even when presented in layman terms.Take a look at this post for example>>741010404>Valve doesn't prevent you from selling on other platforms, that's why its not monopolisticThis does not make any sense and has nothing to do with the monopoly test. Another example here >>741010720This is correct >>741011375t. M&A lawyer>>741013724>zoomer doesn't remember the $1 ≠ €1 blunder>>741013695Do you mean the DMA? Steam would have to be classified as a platform first. Also this does not apply in the US and elsewhere.
>>741001256you mess with the juice you get the snippy dicky
>>741016096Not the first time it happened, newfrag
>>741010739You're not supposed to defend yourself and win. That's antisemitic.
>>741016120>trademarking the name so no one can impersonate you is badare you retarded, jeet?it proves that it's valve's official repository since no one else can claim to have steamOSyou lost and you're squirming, you rancid esl jeet
>>741001256jews are evil
>>741016164>I totally did that and everyone just coped and seethed at me>No, I wont link that previous thread eitherAnd it's just coincidence that you're posting this riiight after hitting bump limit eh?
>>741016253Anyone can fake the name, you do know Valve has never actually forked their projects right?
>>741016621>Anyone can fake the nameNo they cant, esljeet. That's the point.
>>741001256Knowing its the Jews fault and theyre the reason why I can never like them for what they are
>>741016543https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/740153820/You should be able to tell my posts apart quite easily. But yes, it's all a huge conspiracy if it helps you sleep at night.
>>741016621no faggot they can'tthat's what trademarks are for, if it wasn't valve then they could tell git to just take them down
>>741009581I'm okay with all of this. I hope Valve is forced to leave the EU and UK, meaning everyone from there loses their accounts.
>>741004367arguably the US was at its most powerful AFTER WW2, it was the death of JFK that started to go downhill
>>741014715>EAEA is the only company that had the audacity to remove my copy of battlefield bad company 2 for no good reason other than I didn't log into my account for a little while. Origin was also practical malware worse than the fucking Discord desktop client. They deserve nothing but disdain.
>>741016793>Steam exits EU>they have to strip Steam off the games, making sure games run fine including multiplayer>no more 2857 processes of steamwebservices.exe bloatholy crap the dream I miss pre-Steam days
>>741016975Nah. They leave those markets and you have to rely upon GOG or Epic to fill the gap.>b-but s-stop k-killing games!Doesn't work that way. Steam isn't responsible for that.
>>741016752>You should be able to tell my posts apart quite easilyYeah, I could also identify a common trend amongst the posts you avoided replying to.>From a legal standpoint it doesn’t not matter>”Obtaining a monopoly by superior products, innovation, or business acumen is legal; however, the same result achieved by exclusionary or predatory acts may raise antitrust concerns”Maybe this is why you waited until bump limit so you wouldnt get btfo again?
>>741004257I will settle for nothing less than both sides killing each other for good
>>741017067I think you severely underestimate how things operate in the EU, if or rather when it happens they will be forced to ensure FUNCTIONAL access to your purchased products (the "licence not the game" copout will not run either)also let me dream
>>741016164>I did that, although I explained them by myself, like two weeks ago in a similar threadYou said you can read wikipedia. Quote the portion of the article you are referring to. Do that, and I will be btfo.You are not going to, because you are a coward. You are incapable of taking a position that can be addressed. You are being purposely vague to muddy waters and appear like you have a point. You are scared of looking uneducated, and the easiest way to do that is to not say anything.
>>741012964This is the official valve policies on pricing, micro transactions, and key generationhttps://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/pricinghttps://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/freetoplay#3https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/keysThere is nothing in Valve's documentation that mentions that games have to be priced the same across stores, unless it is regarding Steam Keys. Not only that, the only restriction on micro transactions is that games downloaded through the steam downloader have to go through steam for micro transactions. Which is reasonable in both cases because valve is fronting the distribution costs. >Wolfire devYou mean the guy who founded humble bundle that regularly sells games (and steam keys) for less than what's found on steam.
>>741017406Nope. Your dream gets in the way of my dream of a Steam that's no longer infested with annoying Europoors.Valve will just give you your games to work offline. It's up to the publishers and devs to make sure they still have functioning multiplayer.
>>741014435It's only criminals unless it's proven in court, pajeetanon. Innocent until PROVEN guilty is the rule in the civilized world, and a lawsuit is not proof of guilt.
>>741017191So it's not a coincidence and the bump limit and so on anymore? I found it almost intoxicating to link that thread in response to your /x/-tier reply. Case in point that you can't understand the concepts, which is what I explained in my initial post here. Monopoly is not illegal, I spent a couple of hours trying to explain that in that thread and I am not going to make the same mistake again. Concession accepted.>>741017551I am not that guy, should be obvious.
>>741017683uh okay I guess? my dream has more swag than yours so tough luck
>>741017980>swagThat word does not mean what you think it means.
>>741013585>it's all different laws!>but somehow they're all mad about the same thing and are suing valve for the same thing>but it's not related!lmao fuck off kike
>>741018023pre-Steam game distribution has infinitely more swag than a bloated storefront with a ton of goycattle features only zoomers useyeah cool animated steam avatar really essential to me playing muh gamesI remember buying MW2 and it was the disc with just the steam installer and you had to download the whole 14 gigs which was a lot back then I was 13 chudding out already gaming has fallen there and then I remember mhmmm
