>SNES/PS d-pad centric layout>d-pad is completely usableFuck all of you faggots that shilled this pathetic chinkoid controller. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocLUzhVJass>Nooo, that controller is just defective!!1I bought two of these for couch games and both of them are exactly like in the video.Also fuck that paid NlGGER Retro Game Corps, who said the d-pad was 'great'
>>741007681>he felled for the 8bitPoo meme
>>741007681Oh no they made it usable? Damn
>>741007681>he listened to shills8bitchdo is not even up there for all around performance, its behind Gamesir, Flydigi, Gulikit, Steam Controller.
>>741007681Yeah I got the much older SN30pro from when shilltubers were first promoting them. Never again. The dpad is a complete joke and it's the entire reason I bought one>bro it's a better dpad you can use with your Switch and PCIt is literally WORSE than the Switch Pro dpad and I am not kidding.
>>741007681Yeah, like some chink company knows better than Sony-sama. Do yourself a favor and get an Edge.
>>741007681https://gamepadla.com/Don't listen to shills, you use this site wait till its verified tested and then search what defects it has. If you find anything wrong with it you return it straight away.Never sit on 3rd party controller if something looks or feels off.
>>741007791Not only that, but the triggers feel awful. You can feel the spring inside it creaking.8BitDo are controllers made to look nice for influencers who don't actually play games.At least the Pro 3 is a litmus test for which Youtubers are untrustworthy shills.
>>741007681Controller shilling is all paid. No one gets that excited over a controller. A good controller is one you don’t think about.I had some rinky dink NES knockoff that died the first time I sweated on it. But, an adapter to a real NES controller worked flawlessly. This was years ago. But that’s what I would do if I was going that route again
>>741007807This video shows the issue, same issue as the OPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDYaKeuNIyA&t=82sDo not bother buying these expecting a good dpad unless you modify it.Sadly videos like this were uploaded long after I got mine. 8bitdo quality is actual garbage.
>>741007928Their M30 is great. I bought the Pro3 expecting similar quality and it's just meh
>>741007914That site never mentions dpad design defects AFAIK
>>741007681This garbage also happening on Dualsense just made me stick with my SeX Controller
Just buy cheap controllers off temu so you don't feel bad when it breaks.
>>741008107>just buy e-wastehow about no
>>741008070is that your sex controller?
>>741007990I don't get why they're so shitty, it literally just comes down to the shape of the dpad plastic, it costs NOTHING to make them not shit.That cheap and shitty $9.99 offbrand PS2 controller you bought as a kid didn't have problems like this, so why do a $70 'premium' controllers always fuck this up?Even first party controllers don't get this right.Why can't any controller make a decent dpad now when it's FREE for them to get it right?
>>741008218I think they simply never tested it while playing actual vidya. They'll just check that each input is functional and that's it.Basically, they don't care.
>>741008129you bought e-waste anyway, only difference is how much money you spend on it. chinese can make much cheaper stuff in the same quality because they have a corporatist fascist system which is efficient.
>>741008272>you bought e-waste anywayNo I didn't as I'm not OP. I bought a hori pad that has a decent dpad.
>>741007681Yeah I had the same problem. 8bitdo pads are trash but so are all modern game controller d pads. The best you can get is one of those reproduction sega controllers but then you're stuck with a six button layout that no game uses. Truly the biggest unsolved problem in gaming at the moment.
>>741007681>>d-pad is completely usableWhat's the issue then?
Keyboard is the best d-pad.
>>741008391I really can't comprehend why D-pads are so bad now. They were making good ones over 40 years ago. What changed. It cant be greed because the dpad is such a tertiary input that nobody is buying a new controller over one.
>>741008326you payed twice as much as OP then.
>>741007681that looks like pure shitand its especially funny because the gamecube controller probably has the most 3rd party options and compatibility support of any nintendo controller
>>741008593Maybe?I have no idea how much OP's controller was. I'd rather pay more for quality than buy e-waste every few years/months.
>>741008391Yeah, I gave up on modern dpads. I'm better off getting a usb adapter for my Saturn pad at this point. And before any retro-bit shills reply, no, their repros are SHIT.
>>741007681stay away from Gulikit and 8bitdo
Stop buying membrane scams, all new controllers have switches now.The plate D-pad is more accurate than cross D-pads, this is a fact stinky.
should have gotten a sneed controller
>>741007681I have used the Ultimate from 8BitDo and got no problem
>>741007681What the fuck is going on with them nobs???
I actually have an 8bitdo Pro 3Pros:- D-pad is very good I like how it's clicky- Can turn into an Xinput or Switch controller with gyroCons: - Awful build quality everything squeaks, L1 trigger consistently squeaks, L2 sometimes squeaks, d-pad sometimes squeaks and needs to be blown into- Analog sticks are too tight/resistant
>>741007681>d-pad is completely usableOh no, it functions as intended?
>>741007681>>741007807>>741007990>>741008218There's so much wrong here it's a mess to address. Yes the dpads are flawed but anons need to understand whats going on.First of all until recently, 8bitdo 2n30/pros were using a SNES clone dpad until they switched to the new clicky dpad. So the design and spec was the same as the SNES, but tolerance and materials are different. On the SNES design there's nothing that physically stops the dpad from rolling into a diagonal with the thumb on one d-pad button. It's just more or less sensitive to doing so depending on minutiae of the build. The new clicky dpad drops the pivot ball in the center of the dpad and uses the resistance of the clicky switches to moderate diagonals.But the important point is you can't just show a test where you get "accidental diagonals" on purpose and it mean anything. For example, what game are you going to hold your thumb on the left dpad button then press up as you press the button? The problem isn't that you can force the pad to roll, we want the pad to roll easily when it's intentional, the problem is if it rolls too easily during real video game inputs when you don't want it to. This is why these issues are usually demonstrated with fighting games where accidental rolling when going from one direction to the next is a problem.On Pro 3 I don't get accidental diagonals when pressing or rubbing left and right repeatedly to do something like that super metroid wall jump, which is a common example of a move that's broken by accidental diagonals. I can't do the same up and down, maybe it's because I don't have muscle memory for that movement, but I'd say that's bad. I could probably find more problems if I played fighting games. But just some retard in a controller test screen showing that dpads roll if you intentionally roll them is retarded.
>>741011272I have actual SNES pads to compare the SN30pro to, and the SN30pro's dpad is a failure of design. I don't know the details of its internals, I just know it's a miserable failure against the contra test and feels like shit to play any 2D games on. It has issues outside of just the dpad as well, but I don't think anyone cares if I list them all.
>>741011420Tear them down or loo on youtube. You'll see the look mostly the same in shape and size of the parts. Not everything is design. The pad is a complaint mechanism and the compliance is different between the snes and sn30, and it makes the difference between a good and bad dpad.
>>741011272>drops the pivot ballThat explains why it's so bad at half circles. Even then, I didn't know it was possible to have problems like directions not releasing when they should on mechanical d-pads until this controller.
>>741011272>The new clicky dpad drops the pivot ball in the center of the dpad and uses the resistance of the clicky switches to moderate diagonals.Holy fucking retards. The New 3DS and GBA SP both have clicky d-pads and didn't do anything retarded like that.
>>741007681I'm not happy with this controller, the stick rebounds too much and fucks up micro movements
What is it with 8bitdo and Gamesir controllers especially that everyone seems to shill them no matter where you look? Why are other brands rarely talked about? It's so fucking annoying that I ignore those two on principle now.
>>741011272When it's possible to press all four directions at once, then yes I would say removing the pivot was a bad idea.
>>741007681>Retro Game CorpsHe is an unironic paid shill, just like the other handheld retro faggots ETAPrime and TakiUdon. You should never take what he says as gospel.
>>741012228this is an example of what I'm talking about though. You can press WASD all at once. But everyone knows if you get accidental diagonals with WASD its 100% on you and a skill issue. You want diagonals to be easy but not too easy. So if you do it intentionally with something that's not a real game input scenario it's moot.
>>741012520When it's possible to get D inputs when I'm only pressing W, then yes I would say that's a shit keyboard.
>>741012251>ETAPrime and TakiUdonAre either those the gangly long haired faggot with the receeding hairline?
>>741012706This lmao how is it acceptable for a dpad to register misinputs?Anon is a faggot desperate to defend objectively bad design.
>>741012206I'm being serious right now: are there other third-party choices of note? Logitech's are shit and only wired, and Steam Controller's great but only for PC and quite expensive. Also I have four 8bitdo controllers of various generations and they've only gotten progressively better. Until my Steam Controller got here I was perfectly happy with them. The only bad one I've ever used was the Ultimate 2C, which had such a dogshit d-pad I sent it back the same day it arrived. Nice otherwise though.
Just stick with the pro 2 lol
>>741012706Again, "possible" doesn't matter if it doesn't happen unintentionally. You can make a dpad worse by stopping these rolling inputs then diagonals will fail when you try to use them. It's more analogous to steering wheel. You want powered steering, you don't want it to require bodybuilder strength, but a truly effortless slippery steering wheel would get you killed.>>741012228Also I tested this out. I haven't seen inside the clicky dpad but it seems like the middle pivot has been replaced with a button. When I'm rolling the dpad trying to trigger left and right at the same time, I can feel left, bottom, some other switch, then right. It's not possible to do opposite inputs or all 4.
>>741009365To look like arcade sticks
>>741012760I said the dpads were flawed, it shouldn't register misinputs, but they need to be real misinputs and not finger fucking the pad in a scenario that never happens.
>>741013150>it seems like the middle pivot has been replaced with a buttonThat's you pressing multiple inputs at once, faggot.
>>741013225You SHOULD be able to wiggle a dpad direction without triggering any other direction, if a dpad fails this test it is a design failure. Simple as.Every good dpad I own passes this test.
i use their n64 controller just to have a decent c button layout for emulators and recompsbut im sure some speedtroon will eviscerate me because its not THE BEST ANALOG STICK TO EVER EXIST
>>741007681>he fell for itBWAHAHAHAHAHAserves you right for being a stupid goy that buys stuff blindly because the internet told him so
>>741013241Open your ears and close your pussy
>d-pad is completely usableso what's the problem?
>>741007681im not watching your video but if it doesn't mention how the chicklet buttons disintegrate and how it's only 250hz wireless you're a shit journo
I have an Ultimate 2. I've been using it as my daily driver for a few months now and I think it's great. Zero issues with the build quality, connectivity or inputs.I just werks.
>>741007928>triggers feel awfulthe trigger lock breaks too so are worthless after a bit
>>741013315Of course a controller that fails that wiggle test can overlap with the bad dpad in a venn diagram. But you should just test if its a bad dpad with games and inputs you use in games. There's no "wiggle one dpad spot technique" when playing a video game.
>>741012836>are there other third-party choices of note?Gulikit, Flydigi just to name two.
>>741013715Are you retarded?A dpad that fails the "wiggle test" will also give you misinputs constantly, especially if you're playing 2D games (like sidescrollers, where you'll hold crouch and end up moving left instead). No dpad should be designed this way.
>>741012206>8BitdoTheir CMO knows what he's doing. Also the first to grab the Chinese 3rd party spotlight, and the first to work on Steam Input support.>GamesirMemeworthy name. First (and still arguably the only) brand to have competent software and equal responsiveness across xinput sony and switch inputs, vs xinput being the only one that wasn't an afterthought on other brands until years later. Usually cheaper than their competitors. Competent Xbox licensed options gave them a foothold with that crowd as well.>other brandsFlydigi's #3 for popularity. Vader 5 Pro's one of the better controllers on the market if you manage to dodge QC issues. Their software is icky, but you should be able to use Steam Input instead.Other brands like Mojhon, Leadjoy, ZD, Mobapad, Gulikit, Machenike, and PXN typically have good basic functionality but fall apart if you want anything more complex than the wired xinput experience. Software ranges from nonexistent to malware. Only Mojhon has extra buttons visible to Steam Input, and I think only on Blitz 2 and Rainbow 3.
>>741007928My triggers don't creek. What I hate about the triggers on the pro3 is it's a feedbackless landing. When they bottom out they don't smack, slap, mush, click, anything. Its like the force is sucked into a black hole. It's pillowy. I just leave it switched to the click switches.
>>741007681We told you to get a gamesir retard.
>>741014057That claim has no scope because it depends on game and the dpad. I can tell you what I know. Pro3 fails the wiggle test. But if I press the bottom direction, and I even press the left edge of the bottom direction to give me maximum leverage to roll the dpad. I only get a diagonal downleft if I press really hard or I push my thumb to the left Instead of down. This misinput example is not going to happen just because it fails the wiggle test.If you want to claim all controllers that fail the wiggle test are bad that requires evidence. I'm not even saying you're wrong. But it's an axiomatic test by proxy instead of just testing if the dpad is bad doing video game inputs.
>>741014950Sounds to me like you're just coping over the Pro 3's bad dpad.
>>741011420What the hell is the contra test?
>>741015020I've already said its flawed, its just not flawed in every way one can imagine. I've had a dpad before that wiggled so much super metroid walljumping was constantly breaking. It's not that bad at least. Someone playing a fighting game would have a bad time with it. Also I forgot to bring up a dpad can pass the wiggle test, but then it's too hard to do diagonals and so those inputs fail. So instead of doing the gay wiggle test a youtuber should pull up a fighting game where precise diagonals are used.
I was going to make it my next controller, but the 8bitdo pro 3 just had too many features I didn't want to pay for. The novelty sticks, the charging dock, the replaceable buttons. I'll never use any of that. Then there's the problem with the buttons being loud as shit, and the absence of a removable battery. I may as well get another pro 2, but I'm checking other options. Maybe a wired gamesaar controller would be decent. I just need back buttons and a turbo mode.
>>741009271Same. I kinda like it. No issues other than L4 and R4 not really being useful.
>>741015617Every shilltuber should, at minimum>do the contra test / "wiggle test">test a fighting game (super SF2)Optionally they could test a platformer and walljumping in super metroid, maybe throw in a modern sidescroller like hollowknight or ori too. The vast, vast majority of videos I've seen recommending these 8bitdo pads don't demonstrate their experience playing actual games and it pisses me off. It's a game controller review, show me your experience controlling games with it.
sn30 feels fine to me but im not a speedtroon or fightan player or anything just casually playing snes and gba games with it
>>741007681what the fuck is that joystick? fucking fighting game cabinet shit for my thumbs
>>741012158It rebounds? The stick rebounds?
>>741016073smash babs think their movements are precise enough that a controller without mushy sticks throws off their game
>>741016050It's a pair of useless novelty sticks that come with the controller. You can swap the ps5 style sticks for them. Frankly I would have preferred a PS3 style, convex stick. Or even just some replacement sticks for when the shitty rubber on the default sticks wears out.
>>741015824just make sure they have switches in the controller, its more quiet, also feels amazing and responsive. I can't go back to shitty membrane controllers, they feel disgusting and are loud.
>>741016665The pro 3 buttons are loud because the membrane rebounds with more force than normal for a controller button, plus the buttons have metal bases and they top out against the hard plastic shell of the controller. People have found that they can muffle the buttons by taking the controller apart and putting foam tap around the impact zones. That's too much effort for me, though. I know what I want now. Just a wired controller with back buttons and turbo.
wtf are these balls for analog sticks. Wtf is this queerness
>>741007681I have an ultimate 2C and it's perfectly solid and serviceable, dunno why people are so obsessed with nitpicking something as low ambition as a gamepad.
>>741007681>he bought the tendie nostalgiabaitlmaoing at your life
B button needs to be where the Y is, A where B is if you actually wanted to play gc gamesThe design isn't very human.
I was broke and I needed a controller. I bought a ultimate C wired for 20 leaf bucks; expecting a piece of shit. It just works. Im gonna run this thing until it breaks.
>>741017885cut your fingernails your analog stick will thank you
>>741018235it has magnetic buttons that are moveable
>>741019237my cousin's dog chew on it
>>741007681Never ever watch a Retro Gay Corps video. Imagine trusting a gaming opinion of a guy whose favorite game is GoW 2018
>>741015535random made up shit by nons
>these niggers want the stiffest dpad known to man because they get "accidental" diagonals when they slightly tilt their fingers on the 4 directionals on contraYour thumbs will give out when you actually want to play games with lots of diagonals.
It sucks how there's no decent symmetrical sticks controller that does not cost a lot.
>>741019792dont listen to gaming opinions from nons who dont play games. they take a title screen picture for reddit and thats it. they play for 5 minutes tops. they have no clears and they have no ovaries and they will never be gamers and never be women
>>741019901you can get a chink knockoff usb ps2 for $10. you dont need namebrand influencer garbage
>>741019792Why would you use d-pad if not for 2D games?
>>741020020>polling rate is 50hz>sticks drift instantly>no back buttonsEh.
>>741020341not ime
>>741019792That's better than accidental diagonals. Putting the correct inputs in at the right time and still failing a jump is infuriating. Playing Mina really highlighted how useless of a controller the Pro 3 is. Fortunately, I got it for free otherwise I'd hate the thing even more. I actually don't like it's sticks either, the tops are too smooth and slippery.
>>741017885that is literally the same dpad
>>741019901tegenaria lite has been out for ages
>>741020578You don't want a dpad. You want face buttons as a dpad
>>741007681>brain rot zoomies want their dpads clicky now like their retarded keyboards Holy shit, no wonder you faggots have AI girlfriends, literal gay retards.
GameSAARbros ww@???
>>741020578>plays trannyslop minahahahahahahhaha
>>741015828>>741009271My right stick got stuck in the bottom left quadrant until I jammed some paper between the shell halves to keep them further apart. Also my right bumper gets stuck in a lot.
>>741007681>d-pad is completely usableso what's the problem?
>>741013375Quite the concession.
>want a controller with a proper L + R for emulation>find this one with the correct hardware>analog trigger plus the digital "clicks" at the bottom of the pull, just like the original controller>but they're not properly fucking exposed so you can bind both at the same time in dolphinI give up. I don't think there's an actual solution to this problem of not being able to fully reproduce the triggers in emulation, and it feels like a scam to be so close and be fucked by lack of exposure.
>>741023009i just use wired 360 for gc games
>>741017885>he has mystery meat skinlmaoing at your entire family tree
>>741023009just get a fucking adapter for a gc controller autist
>>741011272>clickyIt's microswitches, you buttheads. Just say that.
I noticed while playing Ys I and II that I would get stick rebound when releasing the stick to neutral, but you can fix the stick rebound by making the dead zone smaller in the settings app.Unfortunately I noticed that I occasionally get double inputs with the face buttons when playing EO3. I'll press A once to select an option during combat and input two presses. Either I'm getting some kind of bounce back on button presses, EO3 is finicky with button inputs, or I'm developing Parkinson's or some shit. I guess I have to press the button lighter or something. Is this what that guy meant by a half button press?
>>741021378GOOD MORNING GAMESAAR
>>741007681I admit it, I fell for the meme and boughted it. Now I'm just using it until breaks for good so I don't feel quite so bad about throwing my money awayAt least I learned my lesson to never again listen to youtubers who never actually play games
>>741019792>Your thumbs will give out when you actually want to play games with lots of diagonals.You mean like in fighting games, which every fighting autist that tries the Pro 3 says it's shit at?
>>741024884The sooner you stop giving (You)s to the pedantic retard the sooner he'll fuck off.
I have a tegenaria on the way, what am I in for?
>>741023817>>741021378super nova is great>can wake the switch>has a charging dockwhat more do you need?
I got this :3
>>741007914this tranny site doesnt even test dpadsits for call of duty dudebro garbage games
>>741025258cute. does it have triggers? if not whats it for?
>>741025367Yup! Both L1/L2 and R1/R2
>>741025258>>741025412>yup!>:3a literal trannydilate
>>741025412based. i have the m30 for 2d and it works like a dream>>741025509come on dude. trannies are better to talk to about games than dadgamers or culture war tourists. at least trannies actually play games
>>741025640trannies are mentally ill goblins.they are not worth listening to
>>741025759why are you on an anonymous forum where everyone itt could be trannies? go to instagram or tiktok then where you can judge people based on their presentation instead of their ideas
I got a new-ish TMR controller from GameSaar that most controller-obsessed-individuals seemed less interested in.I felt myself peering into that pit which leads people to buy too many cheapo Chinese IEMs with nonsensical names like GUNGFLIT Tachyon Lite EDITION and Zhirwenn Pro 5S.
>>741007681works on my machine.no I'm not giving you clicks.
>>741007681This is all anyone needs, and it's only $20.
>>741025865so hows the Dpad in your gamesaar?no one gives a fuck about your tmr sticks
>>741025962>one of the worst dpads ever made>really bad ergonomicsretard
>>741026031You've never used it. The dpad is great.
>>741025887what do you play?
>>741019792For real. These retarded broccoli heads weren't even alive during the NES or SNES days. Dpads were never meant to be stiff.
>>741026139everything except fighters, which I play on arcade stick.right now? xenogears. usually platformers and 3D action games.
>>741026031I have the first edition of this dual action, still works perfectly after 20 years, no drift, every button works
>>741025258I dont think I can go back to branchless gamepads
>>741008551>>741008810>>741019901https://gamesir.com/products/gamesir-tegenaria-lite?pr_prod_strat=jac&pr_rec_id=b3be0b312&pr_rec_pid=8534187540714&pr_ref_pid=8659276267754&pr_seq=uniform
>>741024884I played fighting games on it. Had no issues.who is "every fighting autist"?
>>741025865What gamesaar?If you boughted the G7 pro non 8K, non-ZZZ/Wuchang or whatever the fuck version you got a borked version with shit QC
> Another chinkshit shilling threadControllers are a race to the bottom.
>>741026667smash doesnt count
>>741026748smash isnt a fighting game.who is "every fighting autist"?
>>741026715oh no dont tell me you choose to get raped by first party shit pads in 2026
>>741025962I tried one. It's very bad. With all the good mice and keyboards that Logitech sells, I cannot understand why they cannot make a normal controller.
>>741026715a first party controller that costs almost $100 is not worth the money when you can buy something for $20 and get the same experience
>>741025258That thing is just as bad. I know because I am a huge fucking retard.
>>741026883I tried one too. It's very good for the price and will last for years.
>>741025964Not that poster but G7 pro 8K dpad is good, no accidental clicks especially with the plate dpad, some people say that the cross dpad can cause accidental clicks but that's probably because they are hamfisted and clumsy.
>>741025962ah yes, the certified the raped™ clueless PC grandpa retard choice
>>741027032You're just mad because you can't scam everyone out of money, chinky dink.
>>741026883because some retard children got one as a present in the 90s and it imprinted on them so they have no reason to put any money into R&D to improve them.
>>741027096Ask your parents to give you money for your R&D, chinky dink.
>>741025962I bought many of these pieces of shit logitech controllers, it was only good because you were fucking POOR, i even had the old one with the square thumbstick borders.No this shit sucks, new controllers are just fucking better in every single way.
>>741027096>>741027225Good morning sarrs
>>741026837>>741026908First party Xbox 360 controller was good. I'd be using the current Xbox controller as well if it didn't have horrible ergonomics.I did have a 8BitDo for a while. It's made of low quality plastic, sticks and triggers are designed to decompose and break after the warranty period ends.
Ultimate 2 chads stay winning
>>741027282>First party Xbox 360 controller was goodno.
>>741027282>sticks and triggers are designed to decompose and break after the warranty period ends.Just like every controller that isn't the F310
>>741026973It has awful analog sticks with huge dead zone that cannot be changed. Very bad if you're trying to drive a car (or a submarine) or to walk in a 3rd person game.
>>741027471Normal people can manage just fine.
>>741027357Could as well be, except that I found F310 unusable. >>741027471 Okay, maybe if you don't use analog sticks, it's fine.>>741027509>Normal people>/vAnon, choose one.
>>741008391>The best you can get is one of those reproduction sega controllersThose Retro-Bit repos are garbage and made with weak plastic (the d-pads develop stress marks over time and eventually snap clean off the pivot).
>>741015535If you see anyone ever use it in a serious conversation, ignore them. They are retarded and their input is useless.
i will shill my ultimate 2c till the end of my lifecome at me niggers
>>741012251Etaprime is hilarious but Taki never sold himself and made what he liked instead
>>741027814It ain't even going to last you for another 3 years let alone the rest of your life.
>>741027881it already has outlived my official xbox controllerand it cost me 1/3 of the other piece of shit
>>741026594How are the buttons and shoulders on this and the Tarantino?
>>741028628Pretty much like a dualshock 4. The triggers have a shorter press but don't have a hair trigger lock. You can use the back buttons to serve that function anyway. The buttons and shoulders themselves don't use micro-switches. They feel and function just like the dualshocks.
>>741028628>and the TarantinoThat one uses microswitches for its dpad and triggers (toggable between hall effect triggers or micros). The Tarantino Pro also uses micros for its face buttons.
I'm not buying anything called the game saar
>>741028628they're finel1 r1 are clickyl2 r2 are not, they're a bit soft though
>>741007681You bought a controller that wasn’t the Steam Controller?
>>741029030>>741029547Huh, wish I knew there was a clickly pad with sane layout before ordering another meme Sega pad>>741030121>l1 r1 are clickyMicroswitch clicky or membrane clicky like sexbox pads?
>>741007681Using knobs as thumb sticks is pants on head retarded
You're an idiot if you bought the 8bitdo Pro 3 instead of the 2 with the removable battery. Just grab a steam controller or a Flydigi Vader/Apex. They all support steam input's API with full back button support.
>>741007681I have one and while you certainly can hit either side of left/right to get a diagonal input, they "click" into place so it isn't a phantom press. It audibly clicks at that. I would not say it is a perfect dpad, but it gives the player enough feedback to not have issues such as accidentally moving while crouch shooting in Contra.
I beat silksong using the dpad on the pro 3 using the standard crest, even diagonals are not a problem ON MY MACHINE :)
>>741031138It's because the video in OP requires the person to be doing two retarded things at once:1. Pressing hard enough into a direction that you go beyond "bottoming out" the dpad and start to flex the internals underneath2. Do so while rolling slightly up or down as wellAnyone with their own controller can try to do what OP is slowing and it feels crazy the amount of pressure you need to put down to begin to have an issue.
The dpad is meant to be like the nintendo dpad, warts and all. If you want a swiveling dpad you gotta get their other controller.
>>741026062I own one, the entire controller feels like cheep plastic shit.
>>741007681Serious question, why are chinks like this? They have all the resources and tools to create the perfect copies of everything and more. Yet they have that NEED to behave like fucking faggots, it's like their own signature.
>>741030858the pro3 is way better than the pro2.if I ever have to replace the battery (never) I will just screw it open and replace it manually its not a big deal.
>>741007681The people who shilled the pro 3 were probably owners of the pro 2 who assumed that new=better. The pro 2 has a legitimately good dpad for emulation, but at this point if you want a dpad centric controller, there's little reason not to just pay extra for a steam controller, or a bit less to get a tegenaria lite.
>>741032086have fun solderinghttps://youtu.be/zXJ1l8M9nAIthere's no videos of anyone doing it but pretty sure this is the same way you'd do it on a pro 3
>classic controllers like 360 or GCN still work flawlessly decades later>modern brand new 3rd party controllers fall apart after a weekWHY>>741030858is there a game you'd actually want to use this controller for?
>>741032239>is there a game you'd actually want to use this controller for?Yes. All of them. The Steam Controller makes entire genres playable on a controller. 4X? RTS? Grand strategy? Arena shooters with super high skill ceilings? Dwarf Fortress? No problem.https://youtu.be/pJ9jOW7bdbII have a HTPC hooked up to my 130 inch projector screen so being able to play all my PC games in my theater room is awesome.
>>741032239My 360 controller literally disintegrated. The stick was possessed by a demon by the end.
... you guys do know that that dpad is working correctly and you are all in a troll thread right?
>>741032169I think the people who mainly play fighting games or arcade games in general should get a stick. It makes sense to want an all-in-one controller, and as a Deck owner I know for a fact that the Steam Controller's pad is perfectly fine, but there is just nothing cooler.
>>741032209I can't think of anything released in the past six years that has a soldered battery. I don't have a clear photo of just the Pro 3's battery, but the plug on the left here goes to it.
>>741021378for me it's the Cyclone 2
>>741032169>steam controller>dpad centricWhy do shills have this irresistible urge to lie?
After looking up the stats on on Gamepadia the GuliKit ES PRO seems like the objectively best controller and user reviews seem good, any reason to doubt it/any flaws you know of?
Zamn tl;dr
>>741025962I like my submarines to be able to go back to the surface, thank you very much.
>>741007791>Was ready to get the steam controller 2>No xinputI really do not understand. My gamesir is half the price and has xinput/dinput/switch and android modes. If some rando third party can do it why can't Valve with a $100 controller?Yeah some of the inputs wouldn't work, I know that and is why I would switch it back to 'steam' mode whenever I wanted those.
>>741008070Frieren is such an unsuspecting show in regards to lewdity. There's like almost none to speak of but the artist felt compelled to add this literal fertility goddess to it.
>>741007681They're not terrible but they're not as amazing as reviewers say.My favorite dpad is the one the n-30 has (modled after the NES) but they stopped making those in favor of the SN nostalgia tards
I've read over 9000 controller threads later on /v/ and still, no consensus can be reached on which controller is the "best" at this one thing.It's kind of sad if you think about the state of modern controllers. I think we should be looking into what retro speedunners use for their runs, as those are arguably the highest test of "skill" on display.
>>741034293Why did you sage tho
>>741034210Gyro on the similar Elves 2 sucks and was unusable even for tendie wagglan. Unsure if ES's gyro is any better.Depending on the sticks used there might not be a real difference between the ES and ES Pro as well, but I don't know of any proper comparisons.Should be fine otherwise.
>>741034210I haven't used that one but the elves 2 pro could have better triggers>>741034853people want different things, many devices have shitty parts or are built to fail, or are out of print, or cost way too much
>>741034853It's pretty easy if you're on PC.>>741032368>is there a game you'd actually want to use this controller for?Yes. All of them. The Steam Controller makes entire genres playable on a controller. 4X? RTS? Grand strategy? Arena shooters with super high skill ceilings? Dwarf Fortress? No problem.[YouTube] Playing Europa Universalis IV on the Steam Machine (embed)I have a HTPC hooked up to my 130 inch projector screen so being able to play all my PC games in my theater room is awesome.steam controller wins.
>>741035305>[YouTube] Playing Europa Universalis IV on the Steam Machine (embed)
Okay so what modern controller ACTUALLY has a good DPAD then?
>>741007681C'mon pal a simple eyeball check tells me that's shite. I'm not even going to make fun of the slava Ukraini colour schemeShould of buyt a Gamesir like picrel. Best d-pad you can buy
>>741007681D-pad on controller will always be shit, if a game requires d-pad then just use your keyboard son.
>>741035358sega saturn
>>741035387>I'm not even going to make fun of the slava Ukraini colour schemeFuck yourself Ivan.
>>741035358>>741035432The only modern saturn controllers don't have pivots tho
>>741035432Modern. Most old 2D console controllers have them, obviously.
>>741034853the gaming peripheral market has gone full retard with yearly releases of new hardware so companies race to add that to a new controller range, better TMR joystick modules, better microswitches, dpad design, thumbstick tension designs, its endless there will never be a finalized best controller thanks for paying to test them
>>741035387>GAMESAAR
>>741034853Most good speedrunners use OEM because they tend to run on console.>>741034668Microsoft is phasing out xinput so they likely didn't even bother. Steam itself wraps controllers so I guess they figured little use case.>>741034853It's because there is no best and people value different things for different use cases. It's interesting that some of the videos critiquing OP's controller either love it without trying it out or hate it for the same fucking reason, and will complain because it clicks or pivots and thus feels a certain way.
I bought an 8Bitdo Ultimate 2 Bluetooth Controller for Switch 2What am I in for?
>>741007681SAAR WHY DIDNT YOU REDEEM GAMESAAR
>>741035548competition is great, they have to improve and fix the flaws
>>741036115You should've gotten the Pro 2 (Switch 2 Edition) for the removable battery.
>>741036156yes unironicallygamesir make controllers as good as 8bitdo and better than nintendo/xbox/sonythe chinese just chose the dumbest name for their company though
For d-pad reliant games I have a Gamesir Tenegaria. For fighting games I have an 8bitdo M30.
>>741036341Gamesir doesn't support the Steam Input API properly. Flydigi Apex/Vader is what you want.
>>741007719which controller should I buy then
>>741036156
>>741025258The fucking SNES controller made my hands hurt just after 30 mins of use. Who's retarded enough to buy this piece of trash?
>>741007681What the fuck are those sticks?
>>741036425Elaborate. I have no issues with mine. You have to put it into dinput mode to get proper gyro, but steam just reads it as a ps4 controller. Which is fine.
>>741007681I have a Pro 3 that I was unhappy with and got a new controller to replace it, but the D-pad was not one of the several things that I was unhappy with.The only D-pad that will NOT give you diagonal inputs when you press on one direct and wiggle your finger side-to-side is a D-pad made of independent buttons (like the joycon), which is to say not a D-pad at all.
>>741036425>Gamesir doesn't support the Steam Input API properlyit does.
>>741035464But i specifically said i wasn't making fun of it! What the hell. >>741036585Every time i open Retroarch with my Nova Lite 2 it registers as a different type of limited edition PS4 controller kekSteam does just detect it as a PS4 controller though yeah. No idea what issues that anon has
I have a pro2 with a 10 foot cable I got for 20 bucks and it's probably my favourite controller ever, sorry you're gay OP
>>741036425Works on my machine.
>8shitpoo>gamesaarI'll stick to my Apex 5, thank you very much.
zero issueapart frome the M button having idiotic colors
>>741037183>using the suckdicks 5embarrassing
lmao at the one spammer shilling that unknown flydishit
>>741036425Latest Flydigi models don't support DInput either, make sure to buy a gamepad that supports DInput or you'll buy a piece of shit.
Someone redpill me on the Gulikit Elves 2. I'm ready to consume a symmetrical layout pad and I didn't like the Transgendaria Lite because it's bigger than the DS4
>MOMMY MY TOY IS BROKEN WAAAAAfix it you faggot
>>7410076818bitno
>>741037176Post the back button support, this controller doesn't support DInput which makes it fucking trash.
>>741036343Why not use the m30 for dpad games? I do 2d on it and 3d on wired 360
>>741037581Tangerina is not bigger than DS4 thoughI thought it was pretty small when I unboxed it
>>741037581Perfect d-pad functionally. Has a lot of rubber-on-plastic squeaking because the pivot sits inside the rubber for centering.Sticks are kind of an afterthought, but fine.Gyro is 100% an afterthought.It's just a no-nonsense controller that does the basics well.
>>741036446NTA but it sounds like you're implying that 8bitdo are the only brand available and that you shouldn't even be considering any others.
>>741036343I like my gamesaar but the dpad is kind of stiff to use. Maybe thats just a cyclone 2 thing.
>>741037765Are the face buttons soft or hard? Are they good for mashing?
>>741037581A potential problem of this specific controller is the plastic shell of the controller around the D-pad. An frontal image like that doesn't show you how tall the plastic shell rises above the D-pad compared to something else like the 8bitdo M30, where the D-pad isn't sunken into the controller so much. If you try the Gulikit, you might get frustrated with your thumb hitting the plastic shell as you use the D-pad.
>>741037732What do you think L5/R5 and M1/M2 are, anon.Home+A, light should blink yellow
>>741037740I held it in my hands and compared it to a DS4, it's wider and the sticks are farther apart
>>741038112Are you using the controller manufacturer software? I've used non DInput controllers and the extra inputs are not recognized by steam as unique inputs, you have to do workarounds to work with them which makes them annoying to use. Can't use back buttons as shift/chord keys for example, i use my back button + abxy as d-pad so having back buttons recognized as unique inputs is the minimum requirement and no I won't have chink software on my computer to support such feature.
>>741037739I don't like the six button layout for non-fighting games. The d-pad on the M30 is great for quarter/half/full circles but for accurate 4 way and diagonals the Tenegaria is better.
>>741037916They're pretty firm, with a loud pop. Standard travel. Probably not the best for mashing, but nothing I'd complain about.>>741037974Without touching the d-pad, it's about equal with the raised portion. The recessed sections are wide enough that I never touch the shell during use, but I could see it happening on down-right inputs with a larger thumb.
>>741038332I've realized we may be thinking about different controller models. G7 Pro 8K specifically has dinput on Home+A and has been supported in Steam Input since February, with all extra buttons and gyro visible. Gamesir's older controllers have an android/iOS mode on that combo instead, which isn't PC-usable at all.
>>741007681Does the pro2 have the same problem?I got one less than a week ago and besides the lame start and select buttons it feels pretty good
>>741039145Hook it up to the PC and try for yourself in input viewer. OP's "issue" is misleading.
>>741007681my Pro 2 corrupted it's own firmware on it's own and for that reason i'll stick with gamesire
>>741023009inb4 temu hate lol i don’t give a shit. this has a gyro too so i can play my gimmick warioware twisted with it. it’s cheap and that’s a good thing
>>741007681get xbox series controller and you/re good to go
>>741037896The d-pad on my Nova Lite 2 is exactly the opposite of stiff, very easy to press and rotate accurately, i immediately started doing better at shmups in particular the moment I switched from DS4 stick. I never felt more directly in-controlMy personal pet peeve is when the d-pad requires too much effort to press down, it's like adding input lag that doesn't need to be there... even the Dualsense is a bit too mushy for me
>>741041974I hear good things about the Series controller but at the same time if you spend that much on a controller and it doesn't even have hall effect, you're a cuck
Have they figured out how to make the dpads not dogshit?
Gamesir mogs all other chinkshit controllers but it's still chinkshit so it's like saying baby shit is better than cat shit.
I CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER
>>741041974They're okay until the flimsy plastic composing the shoulder hinges snap, which they're prone to do after a couple years. Surprisingly, Xbox finally developed a functional dpad that doesn't shit the bed in regards to fighters and retro games. Still not the best feeling though, and at $60 that's a steep ask.
>>741042203>>741042632oh yeah i'm a cuck for playing videogames instead of spending money on 3rd party shit.have fun with your collection of botched controllers!
>>741042829>playing video games with the most botched controllerget with the times, goy
Any Chink controllers with the Xbox Series d-pad? Legitimately the best d-pad I've ever used but if mine starts drifting I want a replacement.
>>741043156>Legitimately the best d-pad I've ever used but if mine starts driftingWhat, is it a fucking analog stick with a d-pad glued to the top?
8bitdo is fucking trash
>>741007681Well that's a shame. I'll be over here enjoying the loud, incredibly satisfying clacking radial d-pad on my 'saar.
>>741043283I meant if the sticks start drifting.
>>741025962rendered completely obsolete by >>741026594
>>741043156There used to be a billion controllers copying the external design, but I think Gulikit ES and Gamesir Nova 2 Lite were the last copycats before they started going for something more distinct. Flydigi Vader 4 Pro and PXN P5 8K being some other decent options.Nothing has copied the dome switch internals, but tactile/microswitch implementations haven't left anything to complain about.
Flydigi Vader 5 Pro or gamesir g7 pro 8k ???
>>741043741I don't like all of Flydigi's controllers but their Vader line blows all gamesaar controllers.
>>741043741Both are fine but with Vader 5 you have to be careful and make sure you get the newer revision (produced after March 2026) that fixes the tension rings and exploding back paddles.
too bad all these pro controllers copy xbox rounded buttonsflat playstation buttons are so much more comfy
>>741043741Vader 5 Pro unless you're paranoid about the tension modules or paddles.G7 Pro 8K if you're picky about stick linearity.
>>741007681Recently bought an 8bitdo Ultimate 2 (pic related) and it's been great. No complaints. Even the d-pad is decent.
>>741007681Should have bought a GAMESIR
>>741036115Good times.
>>741026594I cum on one of these everyday and it's still working flawlesslybest $15 I've ever spent
>>741007681they used to be good
>>741034168You're right, the steam controller isn't dpad-centric, the sticks are shifted up and symmetrical, and it has touchpads for PC games, so it's actually everything-centric.
>>741043741apparently gamesir has a better gyro, if you care about that
>>741007681Honestly these look the most uncomfortable shit posible.
>>741042410Everything, even first party shit, is made in china these days. The only difference is the QA.
I keep wondering if I'm just getting good sample batches, because the only 8bitdo controller I've used that had a bum d-pad was the SN30 Pro, which I fixed with some electrical tape. And it's not even a problem unique to 8bitdo, it's a problem that's part-and-parcel with rubber membranes. My fucking Steam Controller had this problem until, again, fixed it by putting some tape onto the contacts.
You guys pronounce like a Mexican? 8 beeth-doh
Had an 8bitpro, not this one, and liked it well enough until buttons literally broke in less than a year. To be fair I've never owned a controller I both liked and had great quality and endurance but this one was definitely bottom of the barrel in the second sense.
>>741047065i've got a wired one of those snes nostalgia ones since it was the best option when i visited the local shop for a wired controllergood controller otherwise but the left stick started jittering the fuck out when tilting it to the left after about a year. luckily that got fixed by spraying cleaning alcohol in therethe sticks seem better quality than the last cheap ass controller i had, but i've hardly used them to be faird-pad diagonals can be a pain in the ass occasionally, but that's how i remember the original snes controller too, so i guess that's working as designed
Gonna get a usb adapter for the sega saturn controller and just use that
>>741034549That was a different model.>>741025962Yeah, no.>will fall apart the second you actually use it, enjoy lagging not in the autistic sense but the "will actually you fuck you over in games like Hollow Knight">designed for baby hands, no way to grip it
>>741025962>wiredI'd sooner die.
>>741048374>start game>pick up the controller>play until you're finished>put the controller downPerfect.It just works.It's always charged.It never runs out of battery.It never gets latency spikes.It's just there for you when you want to play games.Perfect.
>>741037807thanks for the non-answer
>>741048642I just pick up my controller from the charging stand. The battery lasts for like 40 hours according to the sheet but I've never tested that but I sometimes forget to put it back where it belongs and it still always has battery to spare. Latency spikes is made up and/or outdated boomer drivel literally doesn't happen. Light is literally the fastest thing in the universe AND wireless. Do you really think some reclaimed copper in your wire can beat that? And, if all this fails, I can just plug it in and experience life as a tethered knave for like 15 minutes until it has enough battery to get me through the day lol.
>>741012759No, I think you're referring to Bob "Wulff Den"
>>741048824>And, if all this failsThat's the thing. For wired it just doesn't.
>>741048903>trips over wire, pulls the computer to the floor where it breaks while falling face first into the floor and dyinghow'd that "work" out for you?
>>741012836I bought an Anbernic RG P01 because it was super cheap, and my only complaint is that it won't pair with my linux pc with bluetooth. Other than that it works great.
>>741049092Jej. Assuming I was dumb enough to trip on my wires, my rig is still way too heavy to get pulled off from shit like that. I might fuck up the USB plug though, no idea, hasn't happened to me, unlike the million times I've had to play around battery life.Wireless is for connecting to zoomie phones, which mind you, also run out of battery.
>>741049092>Cable lazily strewn across floor>USB cable able to pull entire PC down without disconnectingImbecile
>>741049240Now that you mention phones I would just point out that one of the best reasons to use wireless headphones, not that anyone asked but it feels kinda related, is that wired headphones always wear and break. Probably not much of a thing with PC controllers though.
I am really enjoying mine, haven't had an issue, and it passed the contra test. I've had the Pro 2 and 3 now, both have been stellar.
>>741048824>Latency spikes is made up and/or outdated boomer drivel literally doesn't happenHappens to me pretty regularly, though to be fair my wireless controllers all use bluetooth. I remember the wireless keyboard I had being pretty consistent with the 2.4ghz receiver.>Light is literally the fastest thing in the universe AND wirelessNow you're just being a dummy though anon
I wish gyro was properly reviewed on controllers. It has far more variance than sticks triggers or nowadays even d-pads, but even with niche groups acting like it's the holy grail there's no effort put into spelling out what is or isn't worth considering.
I was told the version of this controller without analogs was one of the best dpads you can get for shmups.
>>741026594But does it have back buttons and turbo?
>>741023475huh, the camera made me definitely darker
>>741037159If your computer tries to enter sleep mode with the pro2 connected, it makes the computer crash.
>>741048374>liking batterieszoomzoom
>>741052358>back buttonstwo of them>turbothat and macros
>>741052858I guess I'll get one next time I need a controller.
I just got the 3-Mode ultimate one becasue I liked the colors and needed something xinput with the pc layout. What am I in for?
>>741050821m30
>>741047370To date I wonder how much of the bad diagonals on the 8bitdo Pro 2 and SN30 Pro line were just being too faithful to the SNES d-pad
