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My niggas (outdoors edition)
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stop shilling this spic demake
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>tfw running around Sleeper's temple for an hour looking for the fifth orc
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reminder this is what a valley looks like
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My mace is based
you mages wouldn't understand
when I start swingin'
mage and monster alike I be killin'
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>>741015841
Does it really?
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>>741015951
never should of come here
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is hard actually hard?
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>>741016216
>2011+15
>watching pro Cheater Strike
I seriously hope you guys don't do this.
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Is there a merchant to make you run faster
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>>741016634
It's mostly knowledge based but most enemies will kill you in a handful of hits at most and leveling is 3 times slower than on normal.
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>>741016634
Enemies hit harder which you especially notice later on, also less resources overall. My favourite though is the slower progression cause I will no longer be op by chapter 3.
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>>741016810
no, ride the bird
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>>741016902
is there difficulty jump at some point? I have stopped playing on normal before going to the crawler nest because enemies could barely hurt me and I was hurting them a lot
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>>741016990
Not that I noticed, it's just very obvious when you fight shit like Shadowbeasts
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Sleeper Temple filtered me so hard I had to revert back to an earlier save, and get the minecrawler armor and some better spells.

Fighting these temple guards in melee is fucking AIDS.
Also, how the fuck are 90% of all spells that aren't projectiles so fucking useless?
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>>741017182
>have no trouble throughout the whole game
>get to Sleeper's temple
>get filtered by having to fight two undead niggas at once
those motherfuckers can hit
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>Do Myxir's quest in chapter 3
>The game actually accounts for you having already found the mcguffin
Okay Alkimia, you get a point for putting in at least a bit of effort.
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The problem I have with the mount is that you can't do combat with it. Now you have to choose between going fast and gaining valuable exp when monsters respawn after chapters.
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So, can you actually save Syra in the old camp? I did her quest and she told me she'd go with the other girls and join the swamp camp.
Then Gomez's betrayal happened and now she's listed as dead. Should I have killed Bullit instead of just beating the crap out of him?

>>741017328
These and the green minecrawlers humbled me big time.
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>diving for the bright plants during the night near the barrier
shit's spooky, I was expecting some big water monster to pop out of the darkness swimming towards me with 100 mph
also IT'S REALLY FUCKING LOUD
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>>741015951
>cherry picking
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>have to go to tavern in new camp for rice lord to stop troublemakers
>bandits won't let me in
good quest
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Xardas seems to have a rather unhealthy obsession with the player character.
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>>741017974
>Then Gomez's betrayal happened and now she's listed as dead. Should I have killed Bullit instead of just beating the crap out of him?
I think there's some bug associated to that that they said they fixed?
Oh well at least I got the recipe from syra
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>>741018234
either pay up or get smart
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>>741018234
lmao stop being poor and pay the 100 ore
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>>741018272
why am I just not allowed to say "I am here for the rice lord" then
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>>741018137
I'd advise you brush up on your geography if you think that is a cherry picking.
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>>741018337
IIRC you are, but that's no excuse
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>>741018337
honestly I also thought of that when doing the quest
either way just get the miner pants from free mine and you can waltz in for free
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Good price for trophies my ass. Fuck off, Wolf you cunt.
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>>741018547
further proof new campers are chumps
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>>741018547
sell items one by one until you see the price drop, otherwise you are gonna lose a shitload of money
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>>741018547
It's the dumb economy in the remake making it not viable. They failed to balance it properly just like they failed to make lockpicking worth a shit.
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>>741018547
learn how to make scrolls and turn it into a profit
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>>741018547
I sell that shit to the Baal merchant in the swamp camp or to the water mages. They pay way better prices, and I noticed that aside from troll hides, hides are worth FUCK and ALL.
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>>741018454
no one cares the original was in a green lush valley not in a grey and brown rocky shithole
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>>741018547
So, what's a very good way to make money in the game in the early chapters without relying on exploits or mods?
I've noticed you can add shit to your armor but the prices are a bit outrageous
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>>741018701
>shadowbeast hide at regular merchant for 23 ore
:I
>shadowbeast hide at mage for 25 ore
:O

imagine being one of the best hunters and managing to down a shadowbeast that could kill almost everyone in the colony and all the cunts give like 2 joints' worth of money for its hide
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>>741018907
farm black goblins and try to kill every guard nad bandit 1v1 and sell their weapons to cypher a few at a time
keep going back after his stock resets
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Where's the new camp weed lab?
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>>741019198
next to the huts in front of the main camp gate
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>>741018976
>"Shadowbeast hide, huh? I give you 20 ore, best I can d- wait a second, are those, are those bloodfly stingers?!?? Here, take everything I own!"
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>>741018976
Such a shame.
In the OG it was like printing money. Not like it was necessary since you could've beaten up the merchants and "traded" that way instead but it does suck that now it's objectively worthless to invest in hunting skills even if you play nice.
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Is it me or is there barely any quests in the Old Camp? Just started
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>>741018234
There are like 4 different ways to enter the tavern without paying money
git gud
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>>741019918
>4 different ways
I only know of 3
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>>741019198
how about you explore the world huh? HUH?
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>>741018976
If I remember correctly in the original one shadowbeast hide sells for 200 ore. Although they were much more of a stat check than they are in the remake, since you have so much more ability to maneuver and evade. Only the Shadowbeast Mother was as dangerous as a standard Shadowbeast is in the og.
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>>741020073
it didn't occur to me that it may not be inside the camp so I searched for way too long already.
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>>741015774
Did you remove lava yet?
There are 3 orcs before uriziel, one next to uriziel, one after the lava
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I don't like how much they're swearing in the polish version. It's very crass.
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>>741020173
Kalom literally tells you it's not in the main camp.
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>>741020304
kurwa faggot, shut the fuck up
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>>741020304
They are clearly going for witcher style
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>>741020317
well maybe I'm stupid, huh? thought about that, smart guy?
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>>741020304
they're convicts anon
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>>741020139
Shadowbeasts were actually super easy.
A single fully charged fireball could kill one.
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>>741018606
Well I am using third party combination solvers now for the chests which I can't figure out in 1-2 minutes because fuck that, I'm not going to spend 20 minutes figuring out lock which was generated by some mathematical function, placed into low level area, containing 20 nuggets and a torch. And in the end get backstabbed by a guard because of course I cannot account for how long is this shit going to take me. I'm too old, too stupid, father to too many children and too tired of working for too long. I'm not coming home to spend my too short of a window of piece and quiet to play what amounts to a mobile puzzle game. Power to those that do but just can't be bothered anymore.

I am a grown man with a fulltime job (usually more) a wife and kids. I'm not playing in a fucking menu. These UE5 slop devs are retarded this lockpicking shit is garbage and does not belong in my childhood game. Utter dogshit. I'm about to stop playing this demake altogether because of this nonsense. Lockpicking was already solved, AAADADADA and boom you're in. Now this? I don't have time to fuck around when I want to play a game. If I wanted to solve puzzles in my spare time I would've gone to fucking college.
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>>741020419
It had occurred to me
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ATTENTION ALL NEW CAMPERS
KHARIM IS A LITTLE BITCH AND I SPANKED HIM ACROSS THE ARENA
HE ALSO SAID HE WAS THE BEST OF YOU, ERGO YOU ARE ALL LITTLE BITCHES
END OF MESSAGE
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Does 2h weapon training cost 30 and 40 LP like it used to?
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>>741015736
Calling this one a demake is just dishonest and devalues the word
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>>741020648
Yes
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>>741015648
>edition
Really speed running that /vg/ banishment, are we?
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>>741020648
Yeah
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>>741020692
All remakes are demakes as they devalue what made the originals good.
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>>741020635
You're supposed to become the best, not cower under the shadow of the best like everyone in Old Camp does under Gomez.
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>>741018606
So you already have less skill points than in the original because you now need to spend it on smithing, wall climbing and other stuff that weren't in the original. Now ON TOP OF THAT, from the reduced skill point amount, you also have to invest a lot in a skill that was basically a useless irrelevant stat in the original. How anyone can consider this a good change is beyond me. The least they should do is give us an option to simplify the lockpicking in the settings and let the masochists continue to suffer. I suffered troughit in the old camp and hated every second of this stupid minigame. Literally seeing thst screen with 7bgate lock on a digger chest made me want to quit the game. When I came to new camp I downloaded the mod to disable it. I have so so so much more fun now that I can't see that minigame screen.I will not tolerate it
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>>741020757
what if this one retains what was good about it and finishes the blatantly unfinished parts?
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went for a ranged build on second playthrough, bow+crossbow
ended up blowing everything's head off from render distance as early as chapter 2, absolutely retarded damage output. almost nothing in the game has meaningful pierce resistance, and even the first notch of 'trained' for bow and crossbow turns you into the fucking terminator. i did half of gomez's health with a crit+headshot using a generic 30 dex crossbow
>having to redo every lockpick again
>having to fetch every bullshit again
>having to spend 15 hours running from A to B again
subsequent playthroughs of this kinda suck to be quite honest with you
but the first was very fun
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>>741020757
How does more of something good make it less so?
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>>741020824
Well if we are dealing with magical scenarios that never happen then sure I guess.
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>>741020757
And what made the orginal good?
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>>741020317
desu the new camp Bran quest also sends you there and only say it's near "the pond" (which could mean the one in the new camp)
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>>741020757
>Eat a delicious pizza
>After 20 years eat another one
>Somehow this made the earlier pizza worse
I dunno I guess I don't get it because I'm not brown. I'm shocked what a 180 they pulled off with this though. I lost all hope back when the teaser was released ages ago.
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>>741020824
But it doesn't.
Why are you arguing about hypothetical remakes which don't exist?
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>>741020907
Fuck you talking about JUNIOR. I played gothic on a computer with internals that wouldn't qualify it as a flip phone on a CRT monitor and then went out to a party with actual people and bought your mother five drinks and a cab home. Don't mistake TEDIUM for DIFFICULTY. It isn't difficult, it's fucking annoying.
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>>741020849
>subsequent playthroughs of this kinda suck to be quite honest with you
That's why you do everything you possibly can do in the first chapter, including every admission quest, then make a save at the very end before locking in to a camp so you can start replays from there to see the other routes.
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>>741020849
Once I train Master lockpicking I just start using F6 to autosolve all lockpicks and roleplay as if that's the nameless hero's skill working. Fuck all that time wasted picking. No, it's not hard, it's precisely the same trial and error as the original except it takes longer shimming plates back and forth.
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>smoking enough swamp weed will eventually increase your total mana pool
Holy shit I thought those Baals were just spewing bullshit.
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>>741021082
Every thread right now is someone raging about lockpicking in the Gothic 1 remake. So here it is plainly: it's working as intended. You're not meant to crack a 5-gate lock with zero skill points.

Do the math. An unskilled 5-gate lock is a ~30-step sequence. That's not hard, that's basically unsolvable in your head. The game is telling you to walk away and come back later.

Put points into Lockpicking and that ~30 drops to around 15 steps, which a human can actually do. Level it higher and it gets easier still, because extra links in the sequence start getting defused for you. The skill is the mechanic. People are refusing to engage with it and then blaming the lock.

This is just Gothic. The world tells you "no, not yet" and you're supposed to respect that. The remake kept it, people forgot what they signed up for.
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>>741021194
Never mind, it just sometimes takes several minutes to revert to the original value
Fuck you too sleeper
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>>741021194
I don't do drugs though, even in video games. So sick of modern games encourage people get "fucked up" when that destroys lives and community
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>>741021082
yeah i was against the lockpick mod at first but i genuinely don't give a fuck the second time around, good suggestion
i think the lockpick system is very interesting, but having to do it all more than once is absolutely shit for replayability.

definitely in the realm of "beating the game unlocks 'free pick' mode" or some shit that does what this mod proposes automatically as a feature
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>>741020801
What I find funny about this ball busting they're doing is the constant loading screens telling you "gothic is a hard game, you might consider lower the difficulty, no shame ;)", fucking trolls
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>>741021227
I signed to AD. I could learn AD sequence in orginal, but in remake even with master i can't open some of the locks
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>>741021227
dumb nigger
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>>741021227
>You're not meant to crack a 5-gate lock with zero skill points.
brother the problem stems from replaying the game more than once
i don't want to solve the rubix cube 1000 times again. i just wanna play gothic
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Are higher level healing spells worth it? Are they more mana efficient, or just faster?
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>>741021315
the ad was fucking trash. i always hated that
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RPGs reward your characters skills, not your own. If something in the game is shitty while you're character is unskilled in it, but reasonable when they are, that's working as intended.
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>>741021360
most locks are trivially easy at max lockpicking
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>>741021194
If you smoke enough weed the hero will ragdoll when you try to dodge
The ragdoll disables all fall damage, so you can use this to fast travel to the bottom of old mine, just get super high and ragdoll yourself of the ledge
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>>741018252
Fucking why would you add something like that.
I mean he does want the Nameless Hero to eventually leave this universe with him forever but this makes him look like a stalker.
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>>741021419
agree but i don't want to be in the situation where i look at a chest and say 'fuck it' because i don't feel like fiddling the plates for the nth time
been there done that
f6
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>>741021227
My problem is that the really difficult locks don't seem to drop in difficulty. Like the gate to the tower near Cavalorn, it's the exact same at untrained as it is at master lockpicking
What's the point of mastering lockpicking if the hardest locks don't get easier?
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>>741021227
>diving down the abandoned mine through a weird fucking labyrinth
>oh hey, there's a couple of chests here and I can open them up
>there's another one if I take a left instead of a right while diving
>well it might be worth it, chests here are unlocked it seems
>open chest, it's locked, "I'll come back later since it's difficult!"
>no time to get to the surface
>drown
Sorry I don't like this kind of bullshit bait no matter how much you say it's intended
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>>741021227
Don't fall for this bait. I dumped 30LP into lockpicking and there's still PLENTY of 10 min slog locks that hide away a gargantuan prize of 20 ore and 1 wooden spoon.
Fuck off. Your bullshit minigame got modded out and has 100k downloads. You wasted probably months designing this. And it got removed by the entire community.
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>>741021487
wish there was an open lock scroll for chests like in Archolos
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>>741021419
Most are, but then some of them are still unsolvable without 15+ minutes of thinking about it
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>>741021534
Bullshit game design is good when it is in old games, but bad in new games.
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>>741021553
there's a handful of them like the one under the tavern and one in the mountain fortress that are bullshit, but most other impossible locks have a key somewhere from what I noticed
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>>741021227
I've read in these threads and somewhere else that some locks become basically unsolvable once you get the master level because of a bug. If so, then no I don't respect this system.
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>>741021614
Ah, I see.
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>>741021373
Just faster. But by the time the basic heal doesn't cut it anymore you should already have stacks upon stacks of 100hp pots.
Using consumables should be sped up in general. While we're on the topic of slop that slows down the game needlessly: Make ladders faster, make falling asleep/waking up faster.
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>>741021536
That's perhaps the most egregious shit. I decided to cheat because the rewards I get from difficult chests are often dogshit anyways. No I don't need 3 more lockpicks, 2 more torches and a fucking radish
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Just making sure since this project had ArcaniA devs working on it. Adanos still has a dick, correct?
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>>741021421
Just checked it, the invincibility ended before i reached the bottom
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>>741021373
>>741021745
there's more than one healing spell? i went through the whole game just using the basic bitch one torrez gave me
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>>741021551
It should be the opposite:
You're a mage? Do the magic ballbusting meme puzzle every time you want to open a locked chest.
You have trained lockpicking? Chest automatically opens for you.
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>>741021803
Even the bad chest rewards I can tolerate if narratively it makes sense this random shack in the shanty town shouldn't contain a +10 max HP elixir.
The moment I realized every higher level lock is swallowing 15 minutes away from my gaming session I decided it's acceptable to begin F6'ing their ass. A dungeon contains four chests close by? There goes 40 minutes nothing personal kid.
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>>741020757
old good
new bad
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>>741021929
>A dungeon contains four chests close by? There goes 40 minutes nothing personal kid.
this never happens unless you are mega retarded
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>>741021929
>A dungeon contains four chests close by? There goes 40 minutes nothing personal kid.
i had this happen a few times where i finish fucking around with the lockboxes and stand up realizing i have no fucking idea what i was doing prior to getting mazed by lockshit
10/10 game
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I haven't been immersed and really "into" a game like this in a long time
to think this is 25 years old is crazy

that being said, it seems like ch. 1 lasts as much as the second half of the game
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Whoa. 2h weapons are no joke.
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>>741020757
yeah but the original gothic wasn't good because of the scantily clad whores that the remake changed, while keeping the parts that made the original good. Change to lockpicking was retarded but it doesn't really change anything other than lockpicking. Which is not a part of the main gameplay and only applies to players who want to be a thief
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>Go into town
>Nobody gives you any direction on what you should be doing
>Go out of town
>Everything one-shots you and has a million health
What the fuck am I supposed to do
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>>741022231
>Change to lockpicking was retarded but it doesn't really change anything other than lockpicking
Objectively false.
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>>741022241
unironically skill issue
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>>741022241
just go through the towns and talk with every digger that has a name
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>>741022291
which part is false? Because the change was unnecessary. Or do you mean it's untrue that the change only affects lockpicking?
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>>741022231
>Which is not a part of the main gameplay and only applies to players who want to be a thief
what a stupid fucking thing to say. you can't even loot the xardas robes toward the end without lockpicking once or twice and that's pure mage
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>>741015648
>remakes of console games that few or no ports to newer systems without emulation
>/v/ piss and shits themselves in rage
>remake of PC eurojank that is still playable on modern systems
>/v/ loves it
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Does anyone else's game lag for a couple seconds every time you enter the settings menu? My specs are decent (9800X3D and 5070ti) so I'm wondering if it's a winbloat11 ltsc issue or something
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How much did I fuck myself over by not just killing everything in sight in chapter 1?
I did some stuff (admission quests for all camps, get the chocobo and some of the remake skills) and killed most of everything in the main paths between the camps and the old mine (only killed one minecrawler) but that's about it.
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>>741022402
The latter.
It completely destroys the pacing of exploration if you happen to come by a locked chest.
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>>741022403
You say that only because you know the robes are there and require lockpicking. If a new player decides to play a mage he obviously won't invest into lockpicking and clearly doesn't need the robes to play a mage. If the robes were essential to mages they would not require lockpicking
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>>741022474
if you did admission for more than one camp you're already ahead of the curve.
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>>741022474
the animals remain between chapters, new ones spawn alongside them
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>>741022521
I don't remember the original gothic well enough to remember all the containers. Are the added locks in the remake all new containers that didn't exist in the original or did the remake just slap new locks on old chests?
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>thought I'm loaded af
>speak with Cor Kalom
>he demands 500 nuggets back for the weed delivery
muh money...
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>>741015951
Ah yes, the Hindu Kush valley, a famous site where Alexander the Great stopped at. Based
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>>741022457
I have noticed something similar. I suspect the reason is the game is loading in the menu fresh every time so that slight delay is the data being shunted around.
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>>741022023
You're lying and everyone who played the game knows you're lying. Besides, it's a moop point. The lockpicking was never hard in the original and wasn't intended to halt the game for more than 20 seconds at most. Some intern got way carried away with this puzzle and got too married to the idea and refused to tone it down after QA. And here we are now, most of the active players modded it away because fuck going through all that on subsequent runs.
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>>741022426
>/v/
It's probably just the same 15 slavs and 10 germans posting in these gothic threads.
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>>741022691
That isn't a valley because it doesn't look like >>741015841 so nice try cherry picking anon.
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>>741022565
thank god, I thought I lost an opportunity there
>>741022553
I did all of the swamp and old camp ones and most of what I could do in the new camp considering the fact that I decided to put some priority in the other camps and as such, I gave the list to diego, and I sold all of that swamp weed to random mercs which meant I fucked up twice for the new camp admission.
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FIRE RUNE destroys everything in Chapter 1. I don't even use melee anymore. I'm level 3 and just blew through tons of minecrawlers in the old mine. I kill packs of snappers.

Any new player is advised to complete Torrez's quest in the Old Camp as soon as possible to acquire the fire rune. It'll carry you for the whole chapter. Just make sure to have herbs on you that restores Mana such as Mistcaps.
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Very well, the moment has arrived. I have explored everything I could go to without some monstrosity I can't even damage oneshooting me. I've done every quest I could find. I've dived into every cave, except the ones with Shadowbeasts or trolls in them because fuck that.

Now, New Camp, or Swamp Camp? Fuck Gomez, dude's just keeping everyone serfs without even trying to get out and even hogging the women.
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>>741022721
just put points in lockpicking you dumbass
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>>741022630
You could brute force an 8-step lock in the original within 10 seconds, even if you make a mistake on every branch. The price you paid was broken lockpicks.
In the remake every above average locked chest is basically asking to siphon 5-20 minutes away from you. Nobody is going to bother solving them in repeated runs. I haven't cheated yet, but I am going to 100% on the next run.
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>>741022684
I can beat his ass and he has my ore, and a 70 damage 1h sword... but that feels like cheating.
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>>741021423
so he was gay
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>>741022825
Swamp Camp has best looking armor
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>>741022474
You did precisely the opposite. Overleveling by farming every entity in the game for XP is how you deflate all threats from the world and the game turns into a fetch quest, instead of a dangerous world you slowly unlock more and more.
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>>741022823
It also lets you cheese Shadowbeasts and Bloodhounds if you get on top of a ledge or standing log as long as you have the herbs/potions to restore your mana.
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>get fall of avalon
>expect peak euro slav jank
>get tight controls in mini skyrim
hoping to get gothic remake on sale next year but for now avalon is pretty fun
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>>741022220
mastery 2 or 1?
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>>741022828
I'm already master. There are locks in the game that didn't change one bit. Maybe it's a bug, but regardless. There's no reason for the picking minigame to demand this much time and effort. You may disagree if you wish, I am going by the title "remake" and not "revision".
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>>741022898
it is what it is
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>>741022982
a portable torrent version of Gothic Remake is only 36 gigs and you just download it and start playing. Buying it doesn't support Piranhabytes and buying it also requires money and more disk space.
I see no reason to ever buy a remake made by a different studio
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What do you think about his new design?
I dislike that he clearly is not asleep
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>>741022776
>15 slavs and 10 germans
So 25 slavs?
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took kalom's harvest to cipher and never looked back
fuck the sext loons
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>>741023049
Mastery 0. I'm still in chapter 2.
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>>741022828
Putting points into lockpicking is not a solution, just a workaround. The original game didn't steal your time with lockpicking, whatever your lockpicking level was. The remake made it so that no matter what your lockpicking level is, it takes a silly amount of time to pick the lock
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>>741022946
I was thinking about that in terms of progression in this game. I see a lot of people that go "chapter 1 is really long compared to the rest of the game" but maybe that's not intended and everyone is just rushing to hoard as much as they can possibly get right from the get go rather than just trying to pace down things properly?
I thought I reached chapter 2 early, then I got to the abandoned mine and met that undead orc. It was a bit challenging but doable. I wonder if I would fuck him up effortlessly if I killed everything in chapter 1. Hell, as a shadow, I still get treated like a dumb rookie. Surely I'm not supposed to be able to take on the entire fucking old camp if I'm just the lowest rank.
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>>741020757
They literally don't, you're just incredibly low iq seething at everything new because others are enjoying it.
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What's /v/'s assessment of DEXTERITY & RANGED combat, such as bows / crossbows? Is it fun to play a ranger, or is it literally useless?
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>>741023294
You could clean up every humanoid at lvl 1 in the original if you knew how to game the system. Even the troll could be killed lvl 1 without a point spend into anything.
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>>741023340
I'm not homosexual so I do not play in such a manner.
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>>741023340
I was also wondering this. I can't imagine doing later dungeons with nothing but a bow.
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>>741023340
it's pretty fucking strong, maybe the strongest option. Most enemies have bad protection against arrows/bolts and you can aim for headshots to guarantee crits.
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>>741023315
You've Dunning-Krugered yourself. Everyone here was able to solve them. The issue arises is that it's plain tedium for no reason. You may not see the issue as it relates to pacing since you didn't play the original game. If you did, there's no conversation to be had.
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>>741023340
Gothic and Gothic-style games like Risen are really not very fun to play as ranged. You can play an archer in the remake far better than it was in the original but it still doesn't feel good
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should i play the vanilla right now or wait until the remake goes on sale
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>>741022942
Jokes aside, it's a mentor and student friendship and the canon ending in every planned or existing sequel.
A shame too, because after G2's ending I was very much looking forward to a climactic final showdown against him.
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>>741020304
I assume it's because modern voice actors cannot give life to hardened criminals in a magic hard labor camp without it.
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>>741023340
It's pretty much like playing on developer mode. Opening shot with crossbow, then pull out the bow and finish it off. Even orc lands were clearable chapter 2. Weaker enemies can just be bowed.

By the time you're at Xardas you already got a mastery in a melee weapon as well. Just explore and do quests. A competent player will break out of mage/melee/ranged identity and just dip into two.
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>>741015648
so what's the verdict, is this a good replacement for the original for non-german boomers?
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How did the orcs reproduce
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>>741023340
>>741023409
I'm doing the Sleeper's Temple with a bow and crossbow right now and it's not bad
skellies go down in a couple of crossbow headshots from afar and you can switch to bow while dodge rolling if they get close
used ranged pretty much for the whole game and never had an issue except for shadowbeasts
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>>741023374
True and it's fun as well to do it.
Figuring out the optimal order for you to cleanse the entire map of XP bags while having only shitty free pants (although I personally like the swamp skirt) does feel very good.
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>>741023579
The only thing I miss from the original is faster consumable use from menu, faster animations sleeping and using ladders as well as the speed potion. I don't think there's any reason to play the original except if you haven't already, or just want nostalgia. Some engine ini file editing was necessary to remove UE anti-soul gas slop and the likes. Hopefully performance improves in subsequent patches.
Still waiting for a goon modder to fix the ladies.
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>>741022241
Focus, Ubi-brain.
Call me if you need anything.
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>>741023642
The shaman mentions there being orc women in one passing line, so I assume by mating pressing
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>>741023708
What about trolls? I rember they had something like 999 ranged defense in the original.
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>>741023340
pretty strong because of bonus damage for headshots and full stretch
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>>741023797
Shrink Monster scroll, which I assume the Troll is the only intended target.
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>>741023579
It's a sidegrade at best. Might be better than that if you give importance to high fidelity graphics.
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>>741023797
juvenile trolls just take a lot of arrows
adult trolls get shrunk
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>>741022231
>and only applies to players who want to be a thief
Say what you will, but this is objectively untrue. There's a metric fuckton of regular chests that are locked for no reason. You could literally go through the game not stealing a single thing and you'd still have to lockpick several dozen chests.
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>>741023374
Yeah, latter games had this as well (in Risen there's this graveyard you can come across very early on with a tough skeleton you can just defeat without experience and it just takes longer) but I'm talking more about what's really intended there. Generally without the power of the internet a new player doesn't just learn the tricks right from the get go.
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>>741023140
too big, impractical, generic movie monster setpiece shit that just flails around in the back like a disney anamatronic

they fucked up every single monster design in this remake really badly, even the orcs are just generic mashup of DnD orc meets tolkien elements
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>>741023579
It's good enough that I'm hopeful the Gothic 2 remake will be good if they ever do it.
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in my opinion gothic 2 was funniest game ever
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>>741022546
>You only know things because you learned them
Holy shit what a mongoloid take.
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>>741023919
Boomers figured it all out without guides, but then again boomer adolescents had an exploratory bravery that's absent from zoomers.
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>>741023789
the high shaman of the orcs IS a woman
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>>741023995
Vatras reconciling the mage factions with weed had me in tears.
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>>741023140
i don't understand how this thing is supposed to get itself out of the summoning room and "destroy humanity"
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>>741023951
Are you sure you played the original game? The original sleeper looked like a broken spooky house animatronic closed down for maintenance. It didn't even make a noise.
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>>741024000
Maybe try reading the rest of the post to understand the context. Reductionism and over-simplifying things in order to make a zinger just shows that you read the words without understanding the message
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>>741023140
I like it. At least they didn't change that he looks like a giant minecrawler.
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>>741024127
>Maybe try reading the rest of the post to understand the context.
I've read the entire post, just because people don't directly acknowledge existence of every single turd that ever crawled out of your neanderthal brain doesn't mean your inbred meandering magically becomes valid.
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>>741023276
>>741022023
stop coping and just admit it's too hard for you

the lockpicking is a literal IQ test, and many of you have failed. Miserably. I piss on you and you will do nothing because you need my cock.
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>>741024071
that one in particular didn't make me laugh but i do remember something about jack making me burst into laughter
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>>741024004
I'm 38 and to some extent that's true, to some extent it isn't. There was a reason why gamefaqs was very popular. My childhood friend (now 42) has been a brainlet since his early master system days somehow, because he's using guides for modern resident evil games (no, I'm not fucking with you).
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>>741023951
>they fucked up every single monster design in this remake really badly
I agree for the most part, for me its that they are too think, i can't take demon lords seriously with how weak they look, but i also think its funny that only monster thats almost as bulky as the orginal designs is new addition
im talking about demon form of cor kalom
I also can't help but think that they will bring him back in gothic 2 remake now that he is demon
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>>741024454
it isn't hard, it's tedious
tedium is not difficulty
i don't want to pick locks on my second, third or even fourth playthrough if that somehow comes about
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Is acrobatics actually worth it for a melee character?
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>>741015648
why the fuck this shit game cant enable vsync on a toggle in the options menu
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>>741024584
Yes
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>>741024608
u can't use it when upscaling shit is on, u poopyhead.
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i am trying to lockpick this chest under the tavern without levelling my diving and lockpicking skills for the past 2 hours. am i too stupid as well?
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>>741024584
Yes.
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>>741024584
I found it worth it. The value is greater the lower your melee skill is so it's good to get it early.
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does this need to be done in one playthrough?
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>>741024692
there's like 20 ore and some random bullshit in it
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>>741024257
The magic robes in a locked chest are not essential to a mage because if they were essential they wouldn't require lockpicking. The other anon implied that you need lockpicking as a pure mage. The robes are side content or a bonus for mages who happened to invest into lockpicking and the existence of said lock doesn't suddenly change the experience of a pure mage player.

But I do admit that I was wrong in my original post when I said that the change to lockpicking only affected thief type characters, since the remake has added more locks and the locks take more time than the original
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>>741017670
>Gorn doesn't react to me already having looted the stone
I'm subtracting the point back.
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>>741024692
Its not worth it
Its one of them torch and nugget chests
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>>741024559
you're playing a video game

you have time bitch
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>>741024680
its disabled and the shit google says its a stupid nvidia feature option
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>>741024680
>just accept screen tearing if you want good performance
no thanks, bro
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>>741024723
>>741024763
i thought there was a sword
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>>741024720
Yes, you have to pick easy to complete it
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>>741024608
>>741024770
the nvidia thing is vysnc but better
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>>741023439
Did you misquote? I did play the original btw and it was shit, it's how I know that the remake can only be better.
>>741024584
In the original it improves the movement a lot so it's incredibly worth it. But not for combat.
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>>741024883
Here it doesnt improve movement, just the dodge
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I wish they made stronger blunts. Smoking after fights is way more fun than potions.
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>>741024767
i'm playing a game that can be modded. i can install a mod
i can press F6
that's all there is to it
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>>741024767
Time is literally the only thing you cannot get more of, and vidya that wastes your time for no reason is just bad design. Making the minigame take longer means that the devs want your total hours spent playing consist of increased amount of bullshit, and decreased amount of fun.
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>>741024883
>In the original it improves the movement a lot so it's incredibly worth it.
Nah, the basic jump is better (faster) for map traversal.
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>>741024970
I can press my cock in your ass. Stop pretending it's a game problem w hen it's a brain problem
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>>741024767
Going by this logic the game would be even better if it had 30 minutes loading screens to open the inventory because that's game time as well.
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>>741025178
>one is waiting, not playing the game
>other is solving a puzzle, playing the game
are you ok?
do you have brain damage?
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>>741025301
You could solve a puzzle while you wait the loading. What's the issue?
You're playing a game, you have the time.
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was joining wardens/templars/mercs before or after the crawler nest?
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>>741025301
one could argue that solving a needlessly time-consuming puzzle to get a handful of random loot is not only disappointing but also not gameplay
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>>741023140
>>741024108
I found the remake one to be bit too cinematic. the original was kinda bad but it was also subdued and creepy. I too would had preferred if it was actually sleeping in the remake so there would be that "what if it wakes up and rapes us everyone" vibe. that's how original made me feel.
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more like the Seether has awoken LMAO
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>>741025365
>pretending to be retarded
Good job anon.
You look like a natural.
>>741025446
Why not just skip the chest then?
You know you're not going to get Ancient Mithril Sword Of Fuck Demons in some random *gger hut.
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>>741023182
you can get the harvest a second time and also give it to Calom. But it bugged out for me and I could only get 50 from one of the two guys, but completed it with what I found myself and bought 4 more to get the 100..
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Can you retards agree to disagree instead of desperately trying paint one another as mentally challenged because they have a different opinion on lockpicking?
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>>741025413
>wardens
Guards was after. You get rewarded for dealing with the nest.
>templars
After. You get rewarded for delivering the eggs.
>mercs
Unrelated. Hit level 10. You could join them in chapter 1 and basically spend only 30 seconds as a rogue.
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>>741025654
Dam I didn't know New Camp was cool like that.
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>>741024106
he steals your travel rune, duh
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>>741025413
in the remake its after the orc cemetary
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>>741024767
Don't care. F6. I will now resume to play Gothic.
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>>741025710
Mind you, it actually made no sense for the narrative.
Mercs don't run errands for the mages, that's something rogues do. Also the only way to advance the plot is to work for Lares anyway, despite being under Lee instead.
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Still not sure which camp to join. They're all fucked. I want to be a lone wolf.
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>>741025731
aw crud. I can't wait to train 2h.

>>741025836
>lone wolf
that's new camp. they're all about freedom and independence.
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>>741025564
Why add the lock to some remote swamp hermit's outhouse in the first place
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Weird moment, but alright
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>>741025836
New Camp is for the sociopath backstabbers like you.
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So nice to be able to take a shortcut like that after finishing the Focus Stone mission
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>>741025940
Literally everyone in the game is a sociopathic backstabber
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>>741025836
You're pretty much a lone wolf the entire game no matter which camp you choose. Nearly every NPC just goes "erm...I could do it but I can't so go by yourself"
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>>741025940
they really toned down the betrayal. I always loved how comically fucked up it was in the original.
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>>741026000
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>>741025654
>Unrelated. Hit level 10. You could join them in chapter 1 and basically spend only 30 seconds as a rogue.
I joined the rogues at level 11 and Lee still won't take me in.
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>Listen dumbass, if you see a minecrawler, run to a templar
in an unrelated note I now have some two-handers, so that's pretty cool
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>>741026058
>oh yeah haha I totally didn't talk with xardas woops ^^
>yeah haha don't mind me just taking a stroll to the ore mound while the guard is out for a smoke
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It is morally correct to steal burial amulets from orcs right? They aren't people so it doesn't count as grave robbing.
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>>741025093
I remember that the acrobatics jump is longer and faster. Also it helps a lot that you resist fall damage.
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>>741025919
That is what magic weed does to a motherfucker. Remember Hero, don't do drugs.
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How do I fish?
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>>741018252
dunno about other versions but he is narrating in polish version
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Huh. I honestly thought they'd omit the concert.
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>>741026226
>I remember that the acrobatics jump is longer and faster.
That's Gothic 2.
In Gothic 1 the basic jump can be chained to "run" very fast in a way that the acrobatic one really can't. At least for me.
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>>741024720
Some people on steam say you don't need to do that and you can, for example learn all melee and ranged weapons skills in the first playthrough, then magic, alchemy etc. in the next one.
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>>741026269
Yea and the VA sounds like he's straining on the toilet while he's reading those lines. Does Xarass also sound like that in person?
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>>741015736
Hate for remake? No. I have hate for the DEI propaganda they push in games and entertainment. If you don't see it's because you don't want to. full of hate, then I better accept their fucking brainwashing propaganda of pride and fake happiness
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>>741026195
What are they even for? I thought they'd be for some puzzle within the cemetery, and then I just got out with no idea what I had picked all those up for.
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>>741026179
You living under a rock, sorry can't talk with ignorant ppl. Have it on a platter. Harpies are no longer women half monster because that is against the ideology and agenda the game producers are working with.
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>get to the big camp after being eaten by birds a few times
>walk around looking for people to talk to so I can learn anything at all
>see a blacksmith, hope he can inform me on weapons
>his friend talks to me first and demands protection money
>not now faggot maybe later
>blacksmith turns to me an says I should have paid his friend
>hits me twice and steals my stuff

Yeah I don't know, prior knowledge and nostalgia seem to be a requirement for this one and I have neither.
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Does the Almanac only spawn after you get the quest? I realised while talking to Milten that I already cleared that cave. Did I miss it?
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>>741026552
Just accept that everyone in this game is a dick and that handholding is not something that'll happen. Other than that, you can just ask here if you have questions.
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>>741026616
It should be behind a closed door. Dunno if you can access the door without the quest or not. You should remember whether you opened it because that's pretty much the only door there.
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>>741026552
Suffering and confusion in the beginning is what makes it so good later. It's kinda like the feeling of FINALLY beating a difficult boss in another game, but that feeling is throughout the entire game. If some guy tricks you or mugs you, remember his name and come back to rape him later.
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>>741026616
I would also like to know that.
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>>741026616
I'm pretty sure it's always there. Did you loot the chest after the small closed door?
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>>741026810
>>741026845
The one with a bunch of helmets behind it? I might have overlooked the chest... I'll reload and find out.
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Pyrokinesis and Lightning do fucking nothing. What gives? Like literally, they do no damage if you channel them.
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>>741026831
remember to reserve at least 10 or 30 points for rape mastery
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>>741026068
literally looks like gothic 3
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>>741026616
the chest spawns when chapter 3 starts I think. I tried picking it up in chapter 2 and the chest wasnt there.
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>>741026549
you are the ignorant one. you are so filled with hate, that you can't even have a normal conversation. Your whole brain is just WOKE!!! WOKE!!! WOKE!!!
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>>741026938
Well, I can't run it on max settings.
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So just exploring the old camp got me outside where the abandoned hut is. I don't remember a lot about G1, but I know later on I will need this to sneak inside the old camp.
Anyways, if I opened one of the doors from the inside there by activating a mechanism, does that mean that door will remain open later on?
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>>741026964
but that's a chapter 2 quest
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>>741026978
Don't fucking reply. Just ignore the retards and they will go away.
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>>741026891
I don't think it was in a chest but there is a specific closed door in that dungeon and it's so out of place, you should be able to remember it.
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Just finished the orc cementery quest
I dont know who thought taking on three orcs at the same time was a good idea
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>>741027046
no. somebody must take a stand against these fools lest they think themselves in good company. i will crush them head to foot
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>>741027007
or I tried doing it in chapter 1. I can't remember, it was my second playthrough just skimming through the game again. chest wasnt there anyhow when I went there early and it appeared around the almanac quest.
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>>741027086
There's many a games where the character takes on three orcs at the same time, but not many where you're actually supposed to fight them back.
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>>741026315
>Gothic 2.
I played only original 1 and the jump was definitely longer
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>>741027086
>I dont know who thought taking on three orcs at the same time was a good idea
It's pride month, chud
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>>741027159
Anon, you are not in the Colony, please.
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>>741027248
It's longer but it's a bit harder to chain them together reliably.
Also I can't recall a single jump where you actually need that to traverse a gap. You can even skip the monastery door with the basic jump.
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>>741027086
just turn into meatbug and walk past everyone until you meet luktor and then backtrack double teaming every orc with him.
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>>741026842
It wasn't here before. I wouldn't have missed that.
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>>741027418
wow that's lame. in the original every quest item was at its place from the start.
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>>741027418
Well, mystery solved.
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>>741027270
don't you mean Men's Mental Heath Awareness month?
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>>741015648
Yet to play this game, waiting for a Steam discount, but wondering have they changed any of the main story in any way? like quests or shit
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>>741027529
Same thing
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>>741027552
Just pirate it then. And no, everything from the original is kept the same, but there's new stuff.
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>>741027552
the expanded and rewrote some stuff to make more sense, I think the remakes story is a bit better than the originals
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>>741027487
they didn't probably wanna code in the option where you already have the book yberion wants. isn't it the only way for swamp campers to get access to old camp castle grounds?
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>>741026689
>Just accept that everyone in this game is a dick
kek, this reminds me of the first time I played Gothic 2 as a kid, when I found an orc scout near Khorinis.
>lure and kite the orc to the gate guards
>they kill the orc
>then they beat the shit out of me and steal my money and call me names
I like to believe they did it because I brought the enemy to the gates. I did not hit anyone so it couldn't have been about accidentally hitting the guards.
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>>741027682
this is way after you access the castle. you get sent there by Cor Calom to deliever weed instantly after you become the novice.
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fuck the lockpicking. Demake devs further embarrassed themselves with latest patch putting in difficulty ratings that do not make sense. There are 3 star chests that are much easier to unlock the 2 star ones.
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oh shit im sorry
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>>741027742
Because this European dark fantasy, not American one
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>>741027791
sorry for what
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>>741027742
they did it because you had weapon unsheathed too long and you triggered their hostile script.
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bridge guard wasn't lying

old camp is actually under the bridge
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I literally can't decide on difficulty, gothic might be too easy, hard might appeal only to retards to love being oneshotted or having to hit enemy 100 times like in those russian mods
and I don't have in me doing 2 playthroughs to decide which one was better
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>>741028020
Gothic ended up feeling "right" for me at the end of the day.
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>>741028020
gothic just isn't a difficult game
NOTR is basically the exception because they went full stat check on its scaling with the dragon regen so you basically have to minmax the entire run from minute 0
there's nothing like that in gothic 1 or 2

you get your ass kicked, you fuck around for four hours, you become a demigod the moment some dumbass teaches you how to swing a sword because you're somehow the only competent fighter in the entire setting due to none of the AI having spatial reasoning
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>>741028020
just go with gothic, and then hard for a 2nd playthrough.
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>>741027772
>fuck the lockpicking
No fuck you. I see a lot of mixed opinions on this, so here are my thoughts:
>Lockpicking is optional. You do not need it to beat the game.
>With skill investment it gets a lot easier
>In our current times where people seek comfort and easy life, even in gaming, this is a breath of fresh air
>A lot of veterans need something challenging like this, because the game is usually easy enough
Again if you can't learn how to beat this mini game then don't. You don't have to ruin it for us by convincing the devs to noobify it.
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While the HDR in the game is badly implemented it really does add quite a bit of depth to the game world when in the open areas. Standing in a dark forest but seeing the surrounding cliffs gleam in the moonlight is really rather comfy.
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>>741028020
Go with hard only if you plan on using the ez firebolt spell from Torrez, which honestly I don't know why you wouldn't take it every playthrough for the remake.
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>>741028020
I've gone hard from the start and while I most certainly wouldn't also pick one save mode when doing it (you do get oneshot with alarming frequency), it's still manageable and makes those hard fights real breath holders.
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>>741028246
> so here are my thoughts:
you forgot that second playthroughs exist
not wasting 8 hours fucking around with box puzzles again.
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what the fuck? i turned sharpening to 0 and game is still crispy as fuck
is this the power of 4k?
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>>741027680
Is the cutscene where Nameless steals the New Camp ore still as funny as in the OG?
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>>741027418
Thanks.
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>>741028315
No, its not funny at all
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>>741028305
Fair enough on a second playthrough, but pussing out the first time around is gay. That said, I do reload if I lose a fight and they steal my good shit
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>>741028315
no, mostly because you can talk Saturas into letting you do it instead of being forced to backstab him
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The lockpick minigame shows why them going for what is essentially a 1to1 remake was the right decision. Pretty much all their new original ideas for Gothic are terrible.
>yes of course i love wasting time on long puzzles while a dude could get pissy at me for lockpicking his chest
I love puzzle games but holy fuck do not put something like that into a game like Gothic.
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>>741028246
I haven't encountered any of those "50 moves even with master lockpick" I've heard people complain about, but besides that I actually like the lockpicking so far.
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>>741028246
One of the (now resolved) problem with lockpicking is that locks had different difficulties and if you accidentally first found a very hard lock as your first introduction to the mechanic, you would obviously have a negative opinion of it.
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Putting Lefty in his place is so fucking satisfying.

>Oi! Freshie! Farmas need some wata!
>I'm not your errand boy.
*beat the shit out of him*
*talk to him*
>Hey friend, how's it going?
>The farmers look a bit parched.
and then he says you fucker...okay I'll take care of it

BASED

PRISON LAW WORLDWIDE
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>>741028246
>A lot of veterans need something challenging like this
And what about other veterans that want orginal system? They should have just added option to change between the two
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>>741028359
>>741028376
That's gay. The over the top silliness of that scene was what made it memorable.
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>>741028584
I agree
In general the game tries to present itself as too epic fantasy
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>>741028584
The shit eating grin was perfect characterization.
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Want to be a proper fire mage
What melee skills should I train? I heard 2h weapons are absolute ass
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>>741027967
Oh, that makes sense. Not a lot of games care if you have a weapon in hand or not
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Can you actually join the bandit camp? The only things stopping you from getting there in act 1 are snappers and gate guards, you can probably ran past these.
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>>741028696
first level of 1handed and strength to 30
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>>741028696
You heard wrong
Go full mana, you don't need melee skills
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>>741028415
I feel like you could introduce something better though. No need for the shitty new lockpicking but that doesn't mean they couldn't figure out a decent system to replace the good old LRRRLRLRLLRRLRLRLRLRRRRLRL
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>there is a Mud achievement

Too bad. Missed that cause i took the guy out of the south gate right away to murder him in the nearby small cave. Again.
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>>741028571
yeah these early "the bully gets bullied" moments have been satisfying. Thanks for the free mace lefty, you bitch.
also the encounters in old camp for not paying the tax, fuckers didn't know I already got weapon training the day before.
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>>741028710
You're not using the right route if you meet snappers.
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>>741028818
I bashed his skull in full view of everyone and nobody seemed to mind
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>>741028818
I was tolerating him for a long time since he seemed like he needed a friend, but then he got between me and a bloodfly and I hit him on accident. When he got up there was unfortunately no choice to say "sorry I didn't mean to hit you", the character automatically says "you're a pussy faggot and I will kill you"
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>>741028785
The old system is already near perfect and there's plenty of mods for the Gothic 2 that figure out ways to improve on it.
Not like the devs would know as they obviously never heard about the game before getting roasted for the demo.
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>>741028571
Yeah, it's very satisfying to beat the shit out of him, especially if you accept his initial quest and proceed to hear the complaints of the farmers on how he swindled them, only to then try the same shit on you. Next time I visit New Camp I'm going to finish the job. The Rice King has it coming, too. Justice for Rayk. Or vengeance.
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>>741028696
>Want to be a proper fire mage
>What melee skills should I train?
none, you poser
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>>741028754
That's what I have right now. I can take on snappers and lurkers but somehow I feel still weak. I didn't become a mage yet but I want to.
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>>741028982
>Trivial to savescum
>Nearly perfect
Come on now.
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>>741029006
>mage
>warrior
>ranger
picking 1 is gay, but picking 3 is a mistake. A wise man picks 2
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>>741028956
>he needed a friend
He already was friendly enough with animals
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>>741028710
You cant join the bandits until you meet the requirements to join the old camp
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>>741029094
This. The original gives you enough points to pick 2, remake probably does as well.
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>>741029148
Well, I know what I'm doing on my next playthrough.
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>>741029159
Remake stretches your points a bit thinner because there's 2 new skills, but you don't have to learn them. They're cool though
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>>741029159
I was left with about 50 unspent points at the end of the game, and i didn't even clear everything
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>>741028376
>you can talk Saturas into letting you do it
Saturas spent like half of NotR still royally butthurt about this betrayal. Are they going to completely rewrite his lines to account for this?
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>>741029086
>Trivial to savescum
Something as trivial as rerolling the combination on save load will fix the issue completely.
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Gothic 2 Remake seems like a fairly likely outcome but what could they do with a potential Gothic 3 Remake considering how half-baked the original game is? Gonna ask the fans again what they want? Less boring quests? A story which goes beyond just us doing like 4 things for Xardas?
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>>741029159
I got circle 6 magic, master 2 handed, 40 strength and 80 max mana by the end of game.
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Game becomes much better when you give up on being a good guy and accept being an asshole. Probably how the "hero" ended up in magic prison anyway.
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>>741029372
Gothic 3 would require a reboot and thus should be give to different devs who can actually write and design their own games.
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>>741029372
I've only played 10 minutes of gothic 3 and dropped it every time after the first combat encounter. I don't care how they'd remake and I don't think the five diehard gothic 3 fans care either.
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>>741029372
"The late game has also been expanded. One common complaint about Gothic was that the quality and quantity of quest content began to thin out toward the end. The remake aims to address that with around 15 hours of new camp-specific content, including fresh questlines for both newcomers and returning fans.

The Orcs have received a major overhaul, too. They now function more fully as their own faction, with players able to learn the Orcish language and explore new questlines and story paths that were not present in the original release."
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>>741029493
How can you be an asshole? All the hero does is being a good goy while everyone just sits back and watch him getting raped from a safe distance
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>>741027418
>>741026616
Oh that happened to me too anon, I cleared the cave right before Miten gave me that quest, and I was so pissed that I had to backtrack and that i couldnt loot it before
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>>741029372
The world and scale of G3 feels about right, they just need stronger faction characterization and fix that absolute abomination of a main quest, they can keep the "dude Gods suck" tenet but basically rewrite absolutely everything.
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>>741029625
>How can you be an asshole?
stealing from everyone
beating up people and taking their shit
only helping others when it benefits you
lying to people and being selfish in general

the game seems intended for you to be a dick, and punishes being nice
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It's so fucking cool that they added the armor from the intro as something you can find. Just a shame that my current armor is better, I could have just saved my ores
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>>741029372
Just nuke it all. It's for the best. one of that crap made any sense and the was they handled the gang was a crime against humanity. And retconning the Ring of Water and replacing them with rangers as druids was some next level lore rape. Kill it. Torch it.
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>>741021421
lmao
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>>741029372
I want it as it is, but expanded like remake of g1
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>baal lukor stops m,e deep in orc territory to tell me we are going the wrong way
>orcs aggro in the middle of the dialogue
>I can't move
>get hacked to death in a cutscene basically
GEE THANKS GAME
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>>741029734
there's a lot of little things like that and that's probably why the remake is so good. it wasn't just a cash grab, the people making it actually gave a shit and liked the original, it's plain to see
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>>741029732
Main quests dont give much agency tho. Mostly a "Ok, Ill do it" after every exchange
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>>741029646
It's very weird how the original game was a lot more flexible with that quest.
What exactly were they trying to fix?
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>>741029402
So, originally the thieving mechanics were supposed to be a much bigger part of the game. Hence the sneak skill, which is barely useful. There was meant to be a whole quest line about rising up in a secret guild of thieves and assassins.

Ever noticed how Diego goes to the fallen tower after midnight? That’s where the secret guild was supposed to meet. The actual quest was cut but Diego’s daily routine still retains that snippet.
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man i miss dragon roots and goblin berries
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Forsaken Gods Remake when
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>>741029816
IIRC the devs were all forced to play through the original game after the Gothic 1 Playable Teaser came out and turned out to be a complete disaster
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>>741029916
Do not even joke about that.
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>>741029896
>There was meant to be a whole quest line about rising up in a secret guild of thieves and assassins.
I'm glad it got cut because it sounds terrible and they clearly needed dev time spent elsewhere.
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>>741029916
are you team gorn or team thorus?
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>>741030000
quads of truth. banish the thought.
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>>741029876
Yeah. They probably didn’t want some newbie player to accidentally sell or throw away the book. But they could have just made it so you can’t do that once it’s in your inventory, like any other game with key items. Really dumb.
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notice how on steam only gothic 1 and 2 are classic
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>>741029916
this one is never happening
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>>741030181
Yeah, because until now they didn't know if the investment will pay off
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>>741030181
https://gothic3classic.thqnordic.com/
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>>741028246
gothic games are already for piss easy with enough levels lp spent. Demake devs made a already super jank rpg franchise even jankier with lock levels not making sense. Imagine if they actually added smart C&C to the game so the player cant club everyones head at the rice farm when they sleeping for arbitrary xp points and them being perfectly okay with it the next morning after.
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im using motion blur, i like it
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Could somebody tell me, without spoiling too much, when we get kicked out of the Old Camp? Like in which chapter
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yeah I'm gonna play 2 and maybe when I finish a patch or two will drop, I can feel some rebalancing on horizon
>>741030474
4
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>>741029903
Is it confirmed they aren't in the game?
Pretty sure I saw someone find dragon root in a stream, but I can't remember where it was.
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Why would anyone choose anything besides the New Camp? Why the fuck wouldn't you want to get out of prison?
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>>741030557
>why would anyone choose anything beside the rapist/bandit camp?
Gee I wonder
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>>741030610
Better to be a rapist than accept getting raped by the big man, and willingly giving him your money and time
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>>741030610
they're all convicts anon, no matter the camp
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>game is pro drugs
DROPPED
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>>741030729
>wtf man I got thrown into this magic dome on a bullshit drug charge
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>>741030557
>trust the plan, water mages are in control! just two more decades of breaking your back in a mine for a bowl of rice and we will be free!
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>>741028880
>fuckers didn't know I already got weapon training the day before.
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>baal lukor sstops moving in the inner burial chamber in the orc cemetary
I'm going to have to reload and do this section again aren't I? It looks like he is meant to walk to the main chamber but he isn't moving and I can't see anything else to interact with.
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>>741031024
Post screenshot
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>>741023272
from what I remember about these games, 2h own humans and shields own monsters
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>>741031158
Colours are off as i'm tonemapping from HDR.
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>>741031304
Beat him up
Don't loot him when you do
That should fix it
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>>741031382
holy fuck it worked
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>>741029591
Oh shit. I'm currently rampaging through the Orc territory right now during chapter 2. Should I stop?
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i remember is saw a book of bestiary somewhere in the old camp or was it? but i cant find it anymore
does someone know where?
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>>741030778
This guy right here dindu nuffin. ALL PALADINS ARE BASTARDS.
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>>741031814
Don't worry, all the orc quests are either connected to main story or available only after you enter orc city
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>>741031869
He did it and he is proud of it.
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>>741031869
>ALL PALADINS ARE BASTARDS.
Are you sure about that?
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>>741029307
Makes me wonder if they will have us port some save files from remake 1 into remake 2 so then depending on what you did Saturas will or will not want to dismember you.
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>>741032072
that guy looks like a megabastard
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>>741030557
Because they basically are the uncaring sort of chaotic evil and Old Camp is lawful evil, and their armours are also less cool looking? Based on Steam achievements, there's more people picking Old Camp than Swamp and New combined, and that doesn't surprise me.
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>>741030557
I want to leave, and only god can set me free
Now pass the bong
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>>741032216
If you are a mage Old Camp -> New Camp -> Xardas is always the way to go regardless of how you feel about any of them. Uniting the elements and all.
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>>741031235
well your memory may be a bit off because there were no shields until Gothic 3
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>>741032362
Yeah but I don't really care about the fire mages they're cunts and jobbers and in the remake you can join the water mages as well right?
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>sleeper temple
im straight up not having a good time bros
the early struggle was kino of the highest order as i just explored the map randomly finding stuff
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>>741032216
old camp seems like you just have to accept being a prison bitch fuck that
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>>741031869
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMyvIDLAub8
based
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>>741032542
I like the magic carpet mix.
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>>741029947
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFshS-RIL6g

Wow, it looks like they really wanted Skyrim 2.
>stamina bar
ewwwww
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>>741032542
When devs designed firebolt they were listening to full automagic
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>>741029916
The creators of that once found my portfolio somehow and reached out with a job offer. I've never felt more insulted
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WOKE TRASH! Why did they have to fuck up the slave girls?
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>>741015648
just started
went behind the waterfall at spawn
nothing there
DROPPED
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far as I can tell
>old camp
faggots
>new camp
rapists
>swamp camp
DUDE WEED LMAO
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>>741032867
Don't even bother. Harpies are no longer women half monster because that is against the ideology and agenda the game producers are working with
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>>741032867
try the next one
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>>741029947
>Gothic 1 Playable Teaser
I didn't get involved with this but I vaguely remember hearing (probably briefly here on /v/) that said teaser was a fucking disaster with players really disliking it.
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>>741015648
Hows crossbow vs bow in lategame? Can't decide which to pick.
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>>741032802
the real problem is that they added a ton of youtubers to the game for free marketing
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>>741028305
On a second playthrough you would know exactly which chests, if any, are worth opening.
You lockpicking haters are all fucking morons with serious brain deficiencies, I swear.
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>>741033029
take both
crossbow for long range, bow for short range
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The game has some major flaws like its quest design and the user reviews only has 386 ratings indicating that most of the ratings probably come from its core fanbase and that’s why it’s so high. From a neutral unbiased perspective this game really is a 7/10 on the modern scene. It’s enjoyable but it has major flaws and feels outdated for a 2026 experience. I'm not asking for yellow paint but it's simply unacceptable, not to mention disrespectful to the player's time to not provide any guidance of how to get to different places, or to highlight or otherwise show the items in a location where too often they blend in. And FORCING you to buy a map instead of just having it from the beginning is lowkey something from a troll game.
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>>741015648
ALL REMAKES yes all remakes ALL OF THEM ARE SUPERIOR TO THEIR SHITTY ORIGINALS. You have to be white to truly get it. Niggers could never...
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>>741033269
thanks chatgpt
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>>741033269
Good, keep seething
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I just refunded. Can't bother with woke slop.
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>>741032542
I never knew I needed magical gangsta rap in my life until this day.
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kino
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>>741030729
You didn't finish the game
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>>741032765
Why are you getting job offers from indians?
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The fucking lockpicking IS shit you gaslighitng fucking maggots. kill yourselves spic devs i know you're here
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so nobody goes permanently hostile if i fuck with them?
i can just buy a guy's entire stock of health potions, beat him down and get a refund, then come back to do it again?
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>>741032765
>so bad at your job that the worst studio on earth wants you
kek, you have to tell us more
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>>741033849
It's kino. Git gud.
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>>741015648
Is this game actually good? First thing I do when someone shills me an open world game is to go to mapgenie. And this doesn't seem too bad tbqbh.
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>>741033849
it's so bad I installed a mod that makes the lockpicking skill actually matter
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>>741033449
>>741024770
>>741023869
WTF
i see these exact same reply a year ago
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>>741033849
You are right
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cuck here. should i play this?
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>>741033849
it's an IQ test. seems liiiiike....results saaaaaay....looooooks liiiiiike....U R GAY

>>741034025
no. it's a game for men who commit crimes
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>>741033982
Just know that the game is being carried by nostalgia and people a bit tired of the usual formula who don't mind a bit of jank. It's for the average dude at all, especially one without time. You have to walk a lot everywhere and the beginning is fucking painful if you are going blind. Having said that, there's a bit of magic in it and I think it's worth seeing.
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FIRE WIZARDS SWERVE, WATER WIZZA COMING THROUGH
imma drown your flames and douse your head sucka
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THE FUCKING LOCKPICKING GIVING ME FUCKING 5328906523908587X TIMES BRAIN CANCER
BRAIN CANCER WENT THROUGH THE FUCKING ORBITS MY
BRAIN TUMORS ARE EVERYWHERE NOW
EVERRRYWHHEEEER
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I heard someone say that in this game you can join the water mages in a similar manner to the fire mages unlike the OG, is it true?
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>>741034098
>it's an IQ test
Yes, and you failed it if you didn't mod it out.
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>>741034234
based wizza
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5jeNi9pFKo
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>>741034275
>5 locks
invest in the fucking skill
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>>741034298
I enjoy puzzles.

When's the last time you read a book, faggot?
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Where the fuck do I scatter the ashes in the swamp chapter 3 quest
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>>741034292
Yeah you can join them in chapter 3, same as fire mages in the remake.
It's a bit weird because you have to become a merc first, but once you are one you can just talk to Nefarius immdiatly who will tell you to go to Saturas who then starts the quest to make you a water mage
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>>741033864
prison rules

>>741033449
WOW SO FUCKING WOKE
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>>741034365
Read nigga read!
You either do it in front of giant tree, or go to the cementary. Cementary is better because there is another side quest there
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>>741034352
I read a book once
green it was
nobody on /v/ is old enough to get this reference
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lares raped me
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>>741034352
>t. slop reader pleb
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>>741034461
>white
Nice, real nice.
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>>741034539
many such cases
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>>741034504
Yeah ok but WHERE
I explored the cemetery again and found nothing
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So this is absolutely a "just play the original they fucked up the remake" situation.
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Never buying your censored demake
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>>741034718
Great minds think alike my brother
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>>741034709
Last big chamber, right before altar with candles
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>>741034790
based and principlespilled
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>>741034790
>>741034850
imagine if it was quadruple mind.. maybe even 10 times mind
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Do I lose or glitch any quests out for killing the stone golem early? I just cheesed it after 30 minutes
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>>741034714
>>741034718
man, I'm a racist and sexist nazi and you faggots are pathetic. it's literally nothing. go watch some more (((porn))) you weak bitch
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>>741034709
Since you might actually be retarded
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>>741035048
>i-it doesn't matter
So why was it changed, onions boy?
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>>741035079
And here is the swamp location
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>>741017974
I don't think so, if you go to gomez room and talk to the other women you'll see why shes dead
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>the guy who teaches climbing is homosexual
its over
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fucking finally
no matter in which lockpicking level you're it's just CANCER
like for real my brain my fucking brain
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>>741034937
it would still have a maximum of 10 IQ
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>can't use the mount anywhere in the swamp
Kinda bullshit.
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>>741035172
WAIT
is he flirting with the nameless hero? please say fucking no
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>>741035079
>>741034795
went there but missed the promp I guess
Thanks
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>>741035087
for starters, you never even played the original. the picture you got from twittter uses modded models there, in the original they had cube tits. second, I dunno why they changed it, probably for funding or some gay shit like that but it's not much of a difference. there's absolutely nothing woke about this game, it's purposely inaccessible. they didn't casualize it or make it gay, you faggots just bitch online all day. if they turned the literal bitches belonging to the top prison guys into strong women or something you'd have a point, but that didn't happen.
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>>741035286
>modded
No, that's Gothic 1
>I dunno why they changed it, , probably for funding or some gay shit [...] there is nothing woke about the game
Censoring women to be more covered up is already woke.
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>>741035263
No problem anon, glad to help
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>>741035286
>in the original they had cube tits
Why even bother with lies like this?
Shills used to be good at their job.
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>>741033773
>>741033883
It was like 16 years ago and I was active in multiple modding scenes, just as a hobby because I wasn't 18 yet at the time. Had a freelance portfolio for 3D modeling and level design. The jeet claimed he was ex-EA and that his studio also worked on Arcania. Which I assumed was a lie because I had looked up his name and learned that they were only behind Forsaken Gods. That's where I politely refused
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WOKE ALERT WOKE ALERT

FOUND A GAY COUPLE THAT KILLED EACH OTHER

WOKE ALERT WOKE ALERT

SOUND THE ARLARM

>>741035401
it's not censorship lmao, they didn't cover them up in armor and make them hardcore. they're still dressed like sluts and still the property of strong men

you need my cock
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>>741035048
If its "literally nothing" then why change it?
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>These four are bugged and don't start the dialogue, so no continuing the story.

AWESOME
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>>741035286
>No you see, the sexslaves don't wear the BDSM leather fetish gear! The entire game is BAD and GAY and WOKE and CENSORED AIEEE
Sometimes I wonder if chuddies realize how insane they sound
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>>741032448
yeah the orcs and demon lords are just tedious
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>>741035286
>ummmm yeah it is censored but...uhhh it doesnt matter because i say so
Goycattle.
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>>741035538
probably they just didn't feel like it. some of the male characters are dressed differently as well. go cry about it bitch. Diego is still clearly recognizable despite looking a bit different
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>>741035546
hit diego and let him beat you up
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>>741035621
So you admit its censored? Ok. I dont support censored products.
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>>741035613
>Goycattle
I bet you watch a lot of porn. Am I wrong?
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>>741035641
I tried that and Gorn executed me...
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>>741035546
Reload your save.
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>>741035734
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>>741035692
You don't know what censorship is.
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>>741035741
I have multiple times now, even tried before talking to Lester and prompting me to follow him.
Shit's fucked boss,I don't know what to tell you.
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>>741035507
>dead fags surrounded by wolves and carrion feeders
>bodies completely untouched
>can't take the weapons or loot them at all
annoying pandering shit like this is the sort of thing they ban you for removing from the game files
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>>741035507
>>741035864
What's up with closet homos seeing faggots everywhere?
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>>741035980
>penetrating each other with swords while half naked is super straight, bro
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>>741036039
It's a classic imagery of the tragic duel where both participants end up dead. Though, I don't expect illiterate niggers like you to know about it.
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>>741036148
>"duel"
>both swords are firmly stuck inside them
This is a tragic crime of passion, not a duel.
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>>741035693
I bet you worship censorship every day and clap and cheer when art is destroyed, am I wrong?
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>>741035786
Yes I do, the "remake" is worthless censored slop.
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>excited as fuck upon seeing Telekinesis magic due to all the obnoxious shit you can do with item-moving magic in games like Divinity
>start learning magic and powering into being a mage
>get the telekinesis rune

>there's nothing relevant to ever use it on and anything that would be interesting or plotwise related to it just gives you a free scroll seconds beforehand
>can't even pull interesting stuff off of wall displays with it
i haven't launched the game since. i realize it's a year 2001 remake or whatever but they could have at least done something..
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>>741015648
Is it playable in the current state or should I wait for patches?
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>>741036256
Yes. You are wrong, and you've admitted I'm right.

stop watching porn. it's so hypocritical, considering
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>>741036376
God same, I fucking loved that spell in the og because it would highlight everything I was too blind too see. Now it doesnt even do that
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>do quest to help people escape new sleeper cmap
>they now follow me everywhere and can't be dismissed
Hope it doesn't fuck up a quest later or something
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>>741035546
GOD DAMN IT WHAT DO I DO, NOTHING I TRY FIXES THIS I'M FUCKING LOCKED
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>>741036402
it's fine on PC, but I hear the console versions are a lot buggier with worse performance. It ran fine for me already on high settings, but I just tried this mod today (https://www.nexusmods.com/gothic1remake/mods/15) and it gave me an improvement of 10-15+ FPS everywhere.
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>>741036402
Unless you want to play as a mage, yes. Those quests still are kinda bugged just save a lot
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>>741036437
So not only are you worshipping censorship, but you are hallucinating a fake scenario that I "watch porn". Take your meds now, goycattle.
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>>741036376
the only items I found grabbable only with telekinesis are the bow and a sword in a body stuck on the shipwrecks
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>>741036501
Oh thank fuck, finally got it to work. Had to stay back outside of dialogue range while they got in position, wait for them to stop doing ambient dialogue, and THEN go close for the dialogue.

Fuck me, for a second there I thought I had just lost my run.
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>>741036536
>worshipping censorship
lol you're hysterical like a woman
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>>741036638
glad you figured it out, anon
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>>741028956
I'm a moralfag too. I think I endured his shit for about 2 hours. If I tell you to fuck off 5 times and you don't, that's harassment at that point. And unfortunately the only recourse for such crimes in this universe is a dented skull.

I let him live but now I feel bad for him every time I see him in camp, just sitting on his stupid stool. I'm thinking about Of Mice and Men-ing his ass just so I don't have to look at him.
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>>741036239
Nah, you are not gaslighting me with your homosexual fantasies, fucking retarded faggot.
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>>741036667
And you worship censorship, goycattle.
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>>741037070
weź prysznic
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>>741037070
you must be false flagging with this nonsense

Hitler would beat the fuck out of you
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>>741037180
Cant go 2 posts without hallucinating a scenario that never happened. You worship censorship, goycattle.
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>>741037305
literally nobody in the world, not even the faggiest fag that ever lived worships censorship. you're outta touch, big guy
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>>741037305
You're indian
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The game looks much better without the fog.
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what the fuck are coins for?
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>>741037535
Slots
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>>741037415
You worship censorship, goycattle.
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>>741037535
a simple demonstration that you're now in a world with different rules
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FUCK the minecrawler queen fight.
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there's nothing more I love than inputs just not working at all
I'm here at this cave with a lurker about to easily defeat him and no buttons will do anything while I have my sword out it's amazing
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>someone replied to the censorship tard and he had another melty
tsk tsk
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>>741037647
you need my cock
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I just killed Xardas' skeleton maid



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