According to intellectual property expert Florian Mueller, Nintendo can no longer prevent the release or sale of the current versions of Palworld. After the lawsuit was initiated, Pocketpair altered numerous game mechanics to circumvent the patents in dispute, and Mueller states that he sees no path for Nintendo to obtain an injunction with real impact on the recent versions of the game or on the launch of version 1.0, scheduled for July 10.>According to his analysis, the dispute would now be restricted to older versions of Palworld. Even in a scenario favorable to Nintendo, the maximum compensation would be around US$30,000, since the patents in question only became valid after the game's release, limiting the period in which damages could be claimed. This would mean that the case has ceased to represent a significant commercial threat to Pocketpair.
They definitely spent more on the lawyers alone. So even with the fucking planets aligning to make the best case scenario for Nintendo, they're out money, several patients and the lack of scrutiny that got them the patients in the first place.
>Nintendo lost because they got exactly what they wanted out of the lawsuit???
>>741033281they didn't though, they wanted an injuction to make palworld disappear and some changethat will no longer happen and if they win they will get less money than they wanted at first
In my college patent class I was told that if you file a patent but someone proves that the solution was already commercially available prior to your filing/publishing, you can go kick rocks.What exactly was the case that Nintendo had here?
>>741033452Their case was Japan is filled with retards willing to do what they want
>>741033452iirc the biggest one was capturing and releasing digital animals in spheres or something to that affect they tried to throw other patents like running around in a digital environment or jumping in a digital environment, retarded innocuous shit that no court would ever care about so that's why their losing so hard at their attempts at patent trolling
>>741033281They wanted to block sales of the game going forward and this resulted in a maginfying glass being put on them and their patients in both the US and Japan. The investigations the US and Japanese patient offices resulted in the revocation of several patients and more scrutiny on anything they submit going forward. Even if they win here: it's pyrrhic.Hope this helps.
>>741033617why do you keep calling them patients it's confusing me
>>741033452>What exactly was the case that Nintendo had here?Money and glorious homerando prido
>>741033653>patientsMy autocorrect has been on the fritz since the latest Windows slop update and won't stop correcting "patents" to "patients" unless I put them in quotes. I am also too lazy to turn it off. Hope this helps!
>>741033871understandablebehead microsoft
>>741033452Typical big corpo vs small corp strategy; bleed the small corpo out with legal fees.It didn't work.
>>741033907Nintendo should have sued them instead for infringing on their "patented" slop peddling strategy.
>>741033607Yea I remember that.The way patents were explained to me (europoor) is that they work like this>Company N makes a game where you stuff animals into balls>Company P makes a game inspired by the one Company N made that also has balls you can stuff animals in>Company N files for patent for stuffing animals into balls>Company N: "HEY, Company P is breaking our patent! We are suing">Court: "The patent says that it was filed after company P made it's game. You also did not patent this before releasing your original game way back when, so this patent is null and void"In some of those earlier threads it was explained that is not how it works in Japan, some Zaibatsu shit like other anons pointed out >>741033564, >>741033720, >>741033970
>>741033254>they're out moneyNintneod has tons of money. you FIUCKINFG NIGGFEFR
>>741034838They should spend some of it on pokeman development then
>>741033452Throwing a ball to release a creature. Now Palworld has you hold the ball when the creature is released.That's it. That's what this multi-year drama was all about.
>>741033281>"Th-they got exactly what they wanted!">they wanted to take palworld down entirely>failed>wanted to stop palworld sales and expansion>failed>wanted to topple palworld related releases like the mobile version>failed>reduced to focus on 2 mechanics that is summon where ball is thrown and gliding pals>still a BIG chance for nintendo to lose the lawsuit, making said mechanics to come back>"NINTENDO WINS!!!"???
>>741034838I didn't say "out of money" I said "out money." ESL much?
>>741033653>>741033617>>741033254I wish warner brother didn't get right of nemesis system.
>>741032897sad day for bing bing wahoo
>>741035030Sarcasm much?
>Palworld is losing, you idiots.
>Pocketpair altered numerous game mechanics to circumvent the patents in disputeTendie higher ups should be executed just for this anyway.
>>741035030wife
>>741035143>Nintendo got what they wanted - A warning to those who would try to rip them off, that shit don't fly.Don't make anything similar to us, or we'll lose even more of our patents?
>>741035227it was only two, being able to toss the palspheres to summon mons and gliding with a monboth had many games doing so before so I hope they can prove the patents are bogus
>>741035109To get the patent to that thing WB jews had to compromise hard, you'll probably be fine as long as you don't copypaste what they did.
Reminder that video game mechanics are, by law, unpatentable in the European Union.So feel free to make nemesis systems, ball-throwing, and bing bing wahoo-mechanics in europe as much as you like. Nintendo can't do anything to you.
>>741033281>pretend you won
>>741035293She nine years old
>>741035670I can make SMT, Claymore, and Reiko the Zombie Shop video games? Nice!
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>>741034982To be fair it's a little annoying that you can't use it to target what you want them to do anymore. Like a little. Not enough to really give a shit, but enough to make you say "ah that's a little annoying" out loud one time. So yeah, go nintendo, get fucked palworld, I guess.
Didn't they show ball throwing in the 1.0 trailer? It made it look like all the revisions are getting changed back.
>>741036513they were changed to ease the laswsuit but for ball throwing specifically, nintendo ended up losing the patent, so they probably added it back. As for gliding, I don't know how that ended up or if it's getting reversed.
Revengebros, our status?
>>741036105Out of TEN!
>>741033254What are they talking about?
>>741033281They wanted to kill their own public image?
>>741033281Nintendo wanted Palworld to stop being sold. They only were ever asking for a pittance of money in the settlement because you have to put SOMETHING there for damages for a suit to be filed in the first place. You can't be made whole, if you can't prove you have been damaged. Palworld isn't getting stopped. They'll, at best, get the pittance they asked for, which was only a formality, that represents significantly less than they spent on the case to begin with. Realistically, the legal team at Nintendo have caused more in assorted damages to Nintendo than Palworld itself ever would have if left unchecked, lmaoRespect where it's due. The Nintendo legal team certainly knows how to pull the levers on the endless gravy train while making their boss look stupid.
>>741037080If the last 4 years have been anything to go by.Yes, apparently.
>>741033412>they didn't thoughThey did. The game has a ton of features missing now because of lawsuit. Like what's the point of having pokeballs now if you can't even throw them anymore
>>741037112>>741037080Just port Palworld on super switch platform.
>>741037515Will literally never happen, if you want to be on the winning team just get literally any other current gen console or PC to play Palworld.
>>741032897I'm not a legal expert but doesn't removing those mechanics mean that they were in violation and it shouldn't matter if the new versions have it or not?
>>741037509>2 mechanics (summon throw and glider)>a ton>you can still throw spheres to enemiesok?
>>741032897Nintendo/ Gamefreak didn't even invent capturing monsters to fight for you.They didn't even invent storing creatures in small objects that you need to throw to release them.Fuck Nintendo honestly.
>>741037912Didn't Pokemon company force Nintendo?
>>741038243You seriously didn't type that with a straight face, did you?
>>741037509you still throw the balls to catch the monsters. you just don't throw them for summoning them to walk around with you anymore, you just hold it out and it does the same thing. Surely the game will never be the same with that one.
>>741033871>phoneposter>Hope this helps!Go back.
>>741037763Not necessarilyI can claim that, I dunno, you have infringed on my fishing minigame patent with your forging minigame. They're actually nothing alike, my fishing mini game is a "keep the bar in the center" game, your forging minigame is a rhythm game. Assuming the lawsuit is accepted in the first place, your forging minigame is under question regardless of how likely it is to hold up, so it is in your best interest to remove it for at least until the case is wrapping up. Leaving it in can be seen as contempt among other things, and removing it isn't inherently an admission that your forging game is like my fishing one.Put it this way. If the police arrest you, for standing on a street corner in a rabbit suit, claiming that you were trying to sell drugs, if you post bail, it would be in your best interest to not continue to wear the rabbit suit and stand on the street corner until your trial date comes up, even if you really aren't selling drugs, you're just advertising your rabbit pelt business, or just are really into rabbit suits. Not wearing the suit isn't an admission that you were selling drugs in a rabbit suit, it's just avoiding potential further infractions, legitimate or otherwise, until we can all agree that you being in a rabbit suit on the corner is fine.
>>741032897The bigger question isWill Flopakawa get shown the door like Cryin Jim Ryan did after the Activision merger?
>>741033281more attention and sales for Palworld?
>>741037725>PC
>>741039045Yes, Palworld is on PC.
>>741039110Not interested.
>>741039202Who axed
>>741039045yes? the best platform if you're not retardedwhat's wrong with it?
>>741039202Basically Palworld is on every single platform but switch.
>only like 3 fuckable palsshit game no one cares
>>741039246>>741039272>>741039292Oh melty
>>741032897>Pocketpair altered numerous game mechanics to circumvent the patents in disputethis is a tacit admission of guiltthose koreans are about to get fucked by BJC
>>741039405Oh no, we broke the drone again.
>>741035452>gliding with a mon>Nintendo claims they invented riding on birdsit's over for patents
>>741037509You can throw the balls. What's the point of talking about games if you don't even play them?
>>741039405why would you want to play non pc versions of games? you don't gain anything
>>741039423if they prove the patents were bogus to begin with then it won't matter, but otherwise it helped reduce the scope of the damages to only those versions before the changeit was a smart move in the end
>>741039467No argument, faggot.>>741039514Why would I own no games from there?
>>741034898OOF. But no, that's money that could go towards merch and marketing. Game dev? lol
>>741039423no retard, it's covering your fucking ass and not openly mocking the fucking courtsif you sue someone and openly brag on social media that you're doing this for money and out of malice then it'll be brought up and you'll get raped in courtif you're sued you lay low
>>741039603>Why would I own no games from there?you get the same licenses as everyone on pc? the difference is that you pay for that plastic with extremely restrictive drm
>>741035203Nice Guild Wars reference
>>741037763>>741038606For an already resolved example with a plaintiff that was obviously vexatious from the start, see the Star Control suit. A lot of concessions on things in contention were made where Reiche and Ford would've legally been well within their right to reply "kick rocks you numale looking fuck".
kek
>>741039603
>>741039747>HUEHUEHUEHUE
>>741039789that fox could easily reach those grapes
>>741039950But it's autism stop it, just like how anon is only stopped by his autism and refuses to get a PC.
All that money spent on both sides could've went to making more games...
>>741040063Pocketpair is already developing Palfarm and the VN while working on Palworld.
>>741033281The only thing they accomplished was forcing Pocketpair to make some changes that are basically whatever>can't use certain pals as gliders anymore which is fucking whatever because you've got pals that can fly>summoned pals appear next to you instead of being summoned by throwing a palsphere which is pretty minorNintendo was aiming to kill the game altogether or at the very least get them to remove the ability to capture pals and ride on pals which probably would have actually been successful in terms of killing it since that'd reduce it to a generic survival crafting game. They ultimately lost and they lost hard
>>741033281They wanted to lose the lawsuit's main goal, accomplish nothing, and spend a bunch of money on nothing?
>>741040195>>summoned pals appear next to you instead of being summoned by throwing a palsphere which is pretty minorThis one sucks because it was fun throwing a pal into a camp like a grenade and just letting them go to town.
do tendies think people will want to stop playing the game because you don't throw the ball when you summon your dude anymore as if that was somehow the entire appeal of the game?
>>741040195Also the game has mod support so I'd imagine it's only a matter of time until someone makes mods that add those missing features back in so Jewtendo kind of failed in that regard as well.
>>741040496Those are already a thing.Have been for a while IIRC.
>>741040462They're telling themselves that Nintendo achieved everything they wanted with the lawsuit. Apparently it was all about that 30k and a handful of patents for very, very specific features, all conspicuously filed after Palworld was announced. It comes across less like they thought the few specific changes they made killed the appeal of Palworld and more like they think they're enough of the appeal of Pokemon that any other game having them is a threat.
>>741040457there's a mod that restores italso its likely to be restored to vanilla in 1.0
>>741035408french kissing cirno
>>741040858That's how you get frostbite.
>>741033412>they wanted an injuction to make palworld disappearThe injunction was only one the mechanics which have been removed completely from the 1.0 version which is why it isn't included in the lawsuit, not by Nintendo's own choice to exclude it.>and if they win they will get less money No? If they win they get 30k each plus damages which is what they sued for in the first place.
>>741040596>Apparently it was all about that 30k and a handful of patents for very, very specific features, all conspicuously filed after Palworld was announcedThat is what it was about, they sued them for patents that they had filed for several year before Palworld released.>It comes across less like they thought the few specific changes they made killed the appeal of Palworld and more like they think they're enough of the appeal of Pokemon that any other game having them is a threat.Not really, I mean, going by the pitiful amount that they sued for in the first place it clearly wasn't for the money nor was it about how "harmful" it was. It was clearly about maintaining some integrity in the industry where creators are concerned.
>>741038563Windows phones have been dead for a decade, anon. Windows does have autocorrect like phones that you can toggle and one of the things that can happen in microsoft's slop code is it turning it on.
>>741040940>Quake 4 in frostbite engineSoulful.
Is Mihoyo's Palworld-like out yet?
>>741041306>That is what it was aboutThat's right, daddy Nintendo always meant to sue over a pathetically tiny amount of money and a few hyper specific mechanics. You can tell because that's what they're managing to get through after all this time in court. Nintendo has achieved all of its goals. Nintendo has won. Because Nintendo could NEVER lose.>it clearly wasn't for the money nor was it about how "harmful" it wasIt was about trying to squash the competition without offering a better product, that's correct.>It was clearly about maintaining some integrity in the industry where creators are concerned."Integrity" my fucking ass. Nintendo settled for these tiny ultra specific mechanics because they couldn't sue Palworld into shutting down.
>>741042050The only palworld like out is roco kingdom but only in china.
>>741033412They sued because Palworld had stuff that was infringing upon their patents and Pockerpair immediately removed it all. It was a de facto compliance.
>>741039506You can't throw it out to release the monster inside.
Any chance we get throwable balls back or nah?
>>741042980Even if not you can always mod them back in.
>>741033281they wanted the game taken down period
>>741042980if nintendo loses the suit/patents
