He's right isn't he?Anime and anime style games are more popular than ever but they still ultimately have a cap on their playerbase
>>741039691Well because good anime style games are the norm.Good western style games is rarer then attractive girls in india.
>>741039691You empathize more with real humans rather than pink haired toons. There's also a bigger contrast between the realistic and the fantastic parts of the setting.
>>741039691E33 wouldn’t have been the phenomenon it was if it wasn’t a nepobaby game selling at a price others can’t compete with.
Duh.
>people connect more to story with good looking eurobvlls than anime girl tranny profile picschat is this true???
>>74103969199% of anime games just have very poor character design which colors people's perception of 'anime style'
>>741040007>nepobaby game selling at a price others can’t compete withYeah man, imagine selling your barely AA game at 50.
>>741039691>if it looked worse then it wouldn't have been as good!yeah no shit retard
>>741039691That's a factual statement because we already have proof of that, it is called M&L series or Paper Mario series.
>>741039691Neck yourself OP
duh, everyone knows E33 is mediocre slop that gets overrated by insecure losers because it has a realistic art style and the characters swear a lotVery similar to games like God of War PS4 and the Last of Us
>>741039691E33 wasn't a phenomenon. The game was astroturfed to hell and back and disappeared out of nowhere in a matter of seconds when the extremely Jewish game awards ended. E33's popularity dropping to nonexistence was so bad that I forgot about the game's existence.
>>741040125VA is really expensive dog
>>741040258Why is Gwen from Ben10 popular again? Specifically the 2005 version
I enjoyed E33, but it's retarded how we are all supposed to pretend it wasn't funded by a billionaire and had marketing/shilling on par with AAA from the start
It sold just as well as any popular anime game. This is not an opinio, it's a fact.Or are we taking tranny game journo "awards" as some sort of degree of success now ?
>>741040258Youre a schizo seething because OP is right.
>>741040437bro shut the fuck up it was developed by 3 starving frenchman and only ever got released because the devs sucked cock in the alley behind the café
>>741040403Bratty but playfulGreen eyesPositive canthal tilt
>>741040437You realize those original allegations were from a reddit poster who got rebuked and then he deleted his account afterwards?I even saw a video from another hater autist who went through their finacials and actually didnt find anything suspicious about it
>>741040258>GwenpedoHow pathetic.
I love E33 seething threads
>>741040437billionaires don't exist in France senpaiwe're a socialist shithole, anyone with barely 1M in bank would be considered Elon Musk
>>741040403gingerloli"tsundere-esque"green eyesIncest-bait
this is a retarded takethere are plenty of jarpigs with realistic artstyle who didn't sell as much (lost odyssey, the shadow heart series even fucking ff16)
>>741040679We say president these says.
>Create JRPG>Remove the JIts that simple really. And no, people that played E33 won't play the thing that inspired it, cause its ICKY ANIME.Its the same as dispatch, its just a VN, but no icky anime characters, no sir.
>>741039691E33 was most people's first exposure to the JRPG tropes. If it had anime style it would've been labeled "just another 3 niggas in a row weebslop" and that'd be the end of it. Because at its core that's all that it was, a safe collection of cliches.
>>741039691>phenomenonPeople actually played this, or just the company buying their own stock?
>>741039691>once again presentation trumps everything else in a GAMEI'm so tired boss.
>>741039691Chinese have no problem with anime games and everyone else doesn't matter.
>>741041026E33 worked because it targeted a very special niche of players: early millennials who grew up on mainstream FF in the west, especially 7-10.These players never really sticked with JRPG games after, specially because tranime jarpigs like Persona or Tales don't feel like FF at all.They were the most vocal when the game came out (and even before since the trailer in 2024) I remember they were already spamming threads here and we already had the JRPG without the J debate.Then it went mainstream just like FF7 did and that's because of the artstyle but the community helped a lot in that.
>>741039691I have gaslit nepo babby glazed frog shill fatigue
>>741041550Bro, Indians were paid to shill the game.
>good thing would not be good if it was badgalaxy brain
>>741041514>glazedhello xister
Man some people really did not like E33 being a fun game huh?
>>741039691yesat the end of the day, many normalfags will never touch a game with anime stylings
>>741039691Well obviously. Nobody plays anime games
because France has a predisposition for beauty japoids will never have.
>>741041629>good thingThe subject in question is E33, however.
>>741041774Everything surrounding E33 is inimical to the /v/ spirit. It is in a way, an implicitly anti-/v/ game.
Most anime games look cheap and shitty
>>741041849France is no longer France. The French things you like died with the Vendeans.
He's right because of normalfags. If it was the exact same game in every single way except for anime visuals, it would have gotten the mediocre scores it deserved and been forgotten. It only has inflated scores because it was played by people who have never played a JRPG in their lives due to being unable to play anything with anime-style graphics.
>>741041862And yet it's gameplay is exactly what so many on /v/ love, parrying attacks with perfect timing.
>>741040679>Capecuck>Disrespecting GwenGodsPipe down goycattle
>>741039691Obviously. Normalfags love realism and edgy Dark Souls aesthetics
>>741041862i can tell you've been here since 2016 stop posing holy kek
>>741041926>t only has inflated scores because it was played by people who have never played a JRPG in their lives due to being unable to play anything with anime-style graphics.This is untrue. Reviewers do play JRPGs, because they are forced to. And then they make passive aggressive arcticles about them.
>>741039691probably. If it had been an anime game I never would have even tried it, I would have just assumed it was another boring JRPG. Instead I had to play for a couple of hours to figure out it was going to be a boring JRPG.
>>741041926why did FF16 sold only 3M and is completely forgotten then?
>>741039691OP's image is completely true because we can see it with Fire Emblem alone. Three Houses is a beloved game by the general audience while Engage is hated because it is more anime. But for the core audience gameplayfags, they love Engage.
>>741042159Because it alienated the core fanbase and normalfags aren't going to jump into a franchise with the 16th entry.
>>741042207But normalfags grew up with FF?
>>741042159Japanese company, perceived notions of what FF is and should be, no real appeal to anyone.
>>741042270And they all hoped off at FFXIII's linear hallways and autobattling.
>>741039691Expedition 33 sucks
>>741042270I don't know what that anon is even talking about because FF7 may very well be the first AAA game. It was also baby's first RPG for most people who grew up in the 90s.
the problem is 99% of zoomers tranime JRPG look like fucking garbage. it's visually nauseating.give me a nuJRPG with Leiji Matsumoto artstyle and I'll play your slop.
>>741042064You cannot even guess how long I've been posting not only on /v/ but on this site.
Not even the E33 devs would agree with that insane statement.
>>741039691This isn't an unpopular opinon. It's E33's most popular and enduring opinion since day 1.
>>741040258This
Reminder
>>741039691i mean pokemon and persona 5 have sold more in total. you just need something to appeal to normalfags like le epic visuals and music or open world slop, or cute monsters.
>>741040225This
>>741039691nobody like tranime except for mentally ill pedo weebsthat's why Metaphor barely sold a million while E33 sold 8 million
>>741042660don't forget to check your Tolerance™ level today
Now imagine Xenoblade 2 but with a very western realistic style, nothing else changed.Would that be a fucking hit?
>>741039691Anime is lazy. Especially in video games. Very simplified faces on usually hyperrealistic bodies is uncanny and not for everyone.
>>741043036Metaphor tries to explore and discuss controversial topics that make some half of the world seethe, while offering multiple perspectives and nuance at almost every turn.E33 avoids controversy completely and has nothing to say about anything, you'd think it was made in ccp china like Wukong.
>>741043036Hey can you tell me why Lumiere has black people
e33 is literally r*ddit
>>741043010I dunno if this is a common take but Atlas games dont ever really feel innovative with their visuals. Its been the same since the Xbox 360 era. Metaphor looked like Persona 5 which looked like Catherine. It got old.
>>741043249What does this even mean retard?
>>741039691A few frogs made a final fantasy game on a shoestring budget and blew square the fuck out and squarefags will be mad about it until their dying breath. For years we had to hear that western gamers won't play turn based, so we had to turn FF into a half ass action game and even remake one of the most beloved JRPGs of all time with Active Time Battle™. And these lower then filth pigshit eating faggots who defend modern square enix go along with it and it makes me physically ill. Thank you france for making Expedition 33. I hope they make it a huge franchise.
>>741039913This can't be true, there's 1 billion Indians in India, there would have to be a lot of attractive Indian women. There would statistically be more attractive Indian women than there are attractive Swedish women simply through matters of scale.
>>741043175>Metaphor tries to explore and discuss controversial topics that make some half of the world seethe, while offering multiple perspectives and nuance at almost every turn.w...wow... so fucking....brave
>>741039691I don't touch anime games with a 10-foot pole, the last one I played was DQ11 and that was almost 10 years ago.
>>741043368E33 is an insipid movie game for people who don't like being challenged in any way. The kind of people who like stuff like this are the ones who use websites like reddit and discord and think upvoting an interesting post makes them interesting too
>>741039691Translation: normalfags are childishwe know
>>741043237you can say nigger you know here, shilloid
>>741039691
>>741041862the mostly white /v/ from the past would have enjoyed the game
>>741043536>weeb jrpgs>challenging*snort*
>>741043706Fatlusfags maybe. Action-combat was the craze back then and even the most deranged NMA poster can see that.
Why does E33 make /v/ seethe so much??
>>741044141Its success reinforces normalfag tastes.
>>741040078found the faggot
>>741039691Yeah it's correct since it's astroturfed by journalists and /pol/jeet culture warriors who hate Japs and Jap culture. Without that it'd just be another forgotten AAAsloppa like Horizon.
>>741039691So all of a sudden we like photo realistic graphics?
>>741039691of course he's right, tranime is for the mentally stunted
>>741044141E33 is the culmination of a decades long battle of westerners taking Japanese media and taking out anime/japan from it to better suit their palette. Like the whole X would be better if it didn't have Japanese Y.
>>741039691He is because it would fall more into the anime tropes and presentation, as opposed to borrowing a lot from French Cinema which was a primary inspiration Whether that is better or worse I can't say
the thing is that the good manga/anime actually have unique and appealing style but the new games and even anime are so generic like AI generated appearance
>>741039691It's been common knowledge literally since the game released.
>>741044141The paid shilling it received is painfully obvious.
>>741039691>If thing wasn't like it is, it would be different. God tier observational skill, my mind is blown.
>>741044141It became too popular, so now contrarian /v/ is required to hate it now. Same with P5 or anything else big with normalfags
>>741039691Are some of you still raging over the GOTD?
>>741039691It would have hampered it a little bit because all their mo-cap stuff was really well done but it ultimately wouldn't have mattered much.The real issue is if e33 was made in japan it wouldn't be e33. The story would be simple. The characters wouldn't have any depth. People would go on a thirty minute monologues while coughing up blood. the difficulty would be fucking hamstrung. the dialogue would be asinine. Japan (by and large) is just as shit as western devs just in different ways. They haven't made anything good in years. They haven't made anything great in decades.
>>741044534they will unironically call you a contrarian for pointing this out
>>>/twatter/
>>741044674To be saying this on 4chan of all places should result on some kind of ban warning
>>741043398>For years we had to hear that western gamers won't play turn basedSo strange looking back now that BG3 and E33 made a fuck ton of money
>>741044734defending normalfag journoslop with a soulless artstyle makes you the contrarian here, maybe fuck off back to plebbit
>>741039691No person over the age of 30 can be immersed when the style of a game is anime shit, I'm sorry to tell you. Enjoy your last years of youth where you can still find childish anime garbage "good enough". No need to reply to me telling me you're 40 something and still into anime BTW, save yourself the humiliation.
>>741044843retarded faggotwe all migrated to this shithole because of tranimebut we were 17yo and I would rather sepuku than watch anything tranime now that I'm in my mid thirties
>>741044997this nigger gets immersed in generic netflix garbage lmao>>741045013>binge watches Netflix slop like an obese foidkek
>>741043398This was my sister. Many years ago she was adamantly against anything turn-based, especially the ones I would recommend to her. Now she's the biggest fan of BG3 and E33 and when I asked her to reconsider some other turn-based titles she would say those aren't BG3 and E33 so she wouldn't like it. I still don't fucking get it either.
>>741044141The better question is, why do so many people on here confuse laughter with seething?
>>741045013>tranimeyou have given away your hand
>>741043706/v/ enjoyed this game before it became popular and the contrarians came in. /v/ was probably the place that talked the most about it before it came out and around launch.
>>741045196because they're projecting
>>741044609E33 is anime as fuck. What do you mean? Also just in general "this French game is not from Japan" is a retarded point.
>>741044997If you're over 30 and still trying to prove yourself as a "mature grown-up gamer" then something's seriously wrong with you. Fun things are fun, faggot.
>>741045147It really do be like that
>>741045147Don't bother, your sister is a drone for hating anything asian-based. She likes turned based wrpg and thats it. Especially if it reminds her of critical role.
>>741045196I think it's your crying and hitting yourself in anger that's throwing people off.
>>741045370I don't need to prove anything, I don't like anime trash You on the other hand have the crippling need to save a picture you can use to self-reassure yourself you're a man lol
>>741039691He's totally right. Normgroid cattle are super easily controlled. You can literally take a JRPG plot that's been done before and slap WRPG looking protags over it and they'll eat it up.I have nothing but respect for the E33 dev team. Forcing normiecattle to actually eat something that isn't complete slop for a change by disguisting Jap kino underneath an ugly western hood. Plus they told the anti-AI crowd to go kick rocks and they can do literally nothing but stamp their feet and seethe in response.
>>741045427So >>741045301 was right>Hey this game is kind of shit >WHY ARE YOU CRYING AND SHITTING YOURSELF
>>741045459you like netflix slop for women, we heard you loud and clear
Why are weebs trying to turn E33 into an unforced L this badly? Just because it doesn't have an early 2000s moe slice of life artstyle? That's like people taking Stellar Blade as an example for why Sony is right to turn all their protagonists into ugly hags.
>>741039691Imagine if their next game had anime graphics. Now that would be the real test
>>741045631likely it's because they can't even run the game
>>741043536In an average JRPG play through you lose about 0 combat encounters. E33 has a decent level of difficulty and forces you to learn the attack patterns of your opponents for at least the first 2 acts of the game. I don't think you have played E33 and even worse, I don't think you have played any of the games you are pretending to defend either. Kill yourself.
>>741039691lol whatThe gacha shit chinks pump out is all anime-styled and is probably popular enough to rape the entire AAA industry put together.
>>741045631because it's ugly as fuck and and more generic than sol moe slop
>>741045721>E33 has a decent level of difficulty andIt's not a different level of difficulty, it's just fake gameplay.
>>741039691Nobody wants their wife to come home from work to see them playing Persona or Xenoblade. The anime style is still a huge turnoff because of its association with pedophilia. If E33 was the exact same game with a cel shaded artstyle it wouldn't have even been nominated for GOTY. It would have gotten Best RPG at best.
>>741045914>Caring what 3DPD thinksNormalfags are so silly
>>741045980>wanting to disappoint the love of your lifeyou wouldn't understand it, lil timmy
>>741045459>don’t need to prove anything>makes post about age generalisations Tell me about the things you like, I can assure you they're as childish as the things you’re condemning.Also anime website, tourist.
>>741039691I'd play it if it was anime.
>>741046072If they don't accept what you like because of social pressure, they're not the love of your life, they're normalfaggot npcs and their opinions don't matter, just like yours.
>>741046256>Also anime website, tourist.Not anymore, hence why your ilk is contained in the >>>/a/ board and its adjacents. You wouldn't post anime in /ck/ or /lit/, or /sp/. You'd get laughed out the board. It's no longer 2006, manchild.
>ITT: All these normalfags complaining about animePutting aside how E33 draws people like this in like flies, how do you faggots keep finding yourselves posting on THE anime website? I don't get it
It's been over a year, and people are still crying about E33
>>741040262Gustave and Renoir worked only for a few hours. Their work was done in a single day
>>741045914>Letting your wife control you so much you can't do what you want on your own time.I bet you let her hangout with chad/jamal and don't say anything to her about reading "The rapetastic adventure of samantha the victim".
>>741040007lmao you retards are so mad
>>741039691If Nepo 33's graphics were anime-style, it wouldn't have attracted the cult-like fanbase of drones who only like it because "it's not le heckin' problematic and icky anime," so there wouldn't have been anyone left to pretend it's not a painfully average 5/10 at best.
>>741046471calling browns people is a stretch
>>741040238how are retards so mad about e33what causes this
>>741040078>good lookingAHAHAHAHAHAHALook at the OP sad looking ugly ass mother fucker. Good looking ha
>>741046578>tranime >problematicif it was it wouldn't be watched so much by niggers and trannies specifically
Grok added context to the post:>Experts agree that the wild success of the top quality video game Expedition 33 has mogged and shit on JRPG everywhere and will alter the course of Japan
>>741040007Dog it’s on game pass for $1
>>741039691Cartoons are associated with content for children and that's a hurdle however making your game have realistic graphics is also a hurdle for the anime audience. If you only see it from the opposite side and think having realistic graphics can only be a plus without any drawbacks, think again.
>>741040437It was literally Ubisoft hiding under a fake shell brand. Just goes to show how stupid and naive the average western gamer is that they actually bought this crap. They must not be music fans, because if they were, they'd be able to spot fake "indie" industry plants from a mile away.
>>741040437wokies really just make shit up when a game that goes against them is successful huh
>>741046394>>741046538yeah... maybe stay single lol you are mentally broken beyond repair
>>741041862newfag
>>741046645>nitpicking
>>741041405It's actually not FF7-10 fans who shilled for Nepo 33. It's specifically the Hackaguchi and Ivalice cultists, who hype up FF12 like it's god's gift to the RPG genre and hate Nomura, who slobbered all over this slop.
>>741042660>music is midAll I needed to know to discard that opinion
>>741046457unc really still going on about his collage 4 years later lmaoooo
>>7410435361/10 apply yourself
>>741040679>Hal groomer
>>741039691Yes, because to adapt the anime style is to adapt the shitty tropes/that come with it.It's not a coincidence E33 both looks semi-realistic and an amazing game.
>>741039691Xenoblade fans are insufferable. They can't come to terms with the fact that Takahashi is a hack who's been recying Xenogears plot and themes for almost 30 years.
>>741045914>Nobody wants their wife to come home from work to see them playingEither you're whipped, a virgin, or extremely gay
Monitoring this thread for any and all negative posts about E33 to refute every single one. Positivity surrounding this game NEEDS to be maintained.
>>741047102>recying Xenogears plot and themes for almost 30 years.But that's the best part.
>>741039691Real for me. I cant stand the way anime men look. way too faggy and unironically female gaze shit. Id play animeshit if the cast was female though. but ya,when it comes to playing as a dude, right is alot more appealing
>>741047192UE5 is objectively blurry shit. You can refute this.
>>741043237Because for something to be perceived as beautiful there has to be something equally ugly, they were added for contrast, not because of some schizo dei conspiracy
>>741046951Shut the fuck up nigger.
>>741040007
>>741047102>>741039691On one hand, it makes sense, normies are more likely to want to play what is essentially a movie like game with actors However, normies also jumped on persona 5 and acted like it was the acceptable RPG to play, and I imagine FF7 and FF10 did that when they came out Really it's not about the style, it's about the marketing, clout, and popularityYou have to remember normies aren't sceptical people, if someone tells them they'll like or enjoy or that something is good they will take it at face value and accept that
>E33 isn't AnimACK>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rB2h2stWN4
>>741047442>if someone tells them they'll like or enjoy or that something is good they will take it at face value and accept thatThat's not enough though, you have to tell them that they're missing out. Fomo is exceptionally strong against normalfags.
E33 a shit
>>741047292>Id play animeshit if the cast was female thoughTroon demenson nepotupia...
>>741047728ok, well i haven't played that. but not completely opposed to it.
>>741043443hahahahahahaha
>>741039691average anime style game is like a 7/10 average weg art game is a 5/10E33 is an above average game with a 10/10 soundtrack.
>>741046776Nah. I, like most men if the number of 25+ spinsters catladies and dog lover women are any indication, will continue to stay single till we find normal and good women.
>>741039691nepo either way so it doesn't matter
Daily E33 seethe thread.
>>741044472But enough about yourself.
>>741046752Then how come Ubisoft hasn't been able to make a game nearly as good?
>>741047813>10/10 soundtrackNah
>>741039691Yes. The lack anime tropes also helped a lot.
>>741047368take care of your Parkinson's unc
It already was
>>741047814nah you're filled with too much venom to ever be able to behave like a normal well-adjusted personyears of indulging this behaviour just normalizes it to yourself, you are dying alone buddy
>>741039691>graphics matterThis is the devastating red pill anime game fags refuse to swallow while hypocritically claiming every female character in everything should look like gacha sluts.
well yeah the average anime character in a jrpg can barely express any emotion beyond childlike caricature due to the artstyle
>>741044141>Made by "nepo" nepofags. >Blatant paid shilling>Bringing in the "i hate rap but i like Eminem" tourist. >Better but still ugly characters. >copypasta persona mechanics>ball busting rng parry shit>try hard writing
>>741047913Every Ubisoft game is already the same 5/10 design-by-committee slop as Nepo 33, just in a different genre.
I miss watching E33 Youtube reactions
>>741041550Frogs are brown
>>741039691I like anime and I like anime stylebut my first thought upon seeing a video game with an anime style is that it is PROBABLY shovelware. There are exceptions but they're rare.
>>741045796not even retards believe that
>>741039691trvthnvkeanime is anti-human, any well adjusted person feels this instinctively. It is fine for escapism, but anime can be be *real* art that touches the *soul*
>>741045865we are reaching new levels of retardation
>>741046930French wailing isn't music.
>>741045761China could also rape France in a war. Fuck E33.
>>741047896I still haven't witnessed the reasoning how supposed nepotism would affect the quality of a game for the end user such as myself. I don't care if a game won 0 or 1000 awards or was made by sacrificing the hearts of little children to some undead deity as long as I personally enjoy it. I don't give a shit about some morons screeching and posturing on social media.
>>741046919blatantly wrong
>>741048456So why are you seething at anime on an anime website?
>>741047610>take something popular with a niche audience>repackage it for the normalfag audience>???>profitE33 is the "wrapping a pill in cheese so your dog will swallow it" of videogames
>>741048519good morning
>>741040258TRVKE NVKE
>>741039691E33 is a masterpiece while all tranime is rancid garbage.
Fontaine from genshin impact is a better depiction of France in a video game than E33. Why are the French so bad at making games? Ubisoft is about to die.
>>741039691Those chinese anime style games make 10x more money than your meme frog game.
>>741039691TRVKE
>>741048674Bonjour jamal
>>741039691>another daily seethe thread about e33 shit is fucking embarrasing specially when fantazio is now consider a masterpiece because is from the creators of persona (anime garbo since 3)
France's only aircraft carrier, the Charles de Gaulle, is so tiny it would be classified as an amphibious landing deck in the American and Chinese navies.
>>741048769I can talk about E33 in public and make friends, you have to hide your anime or people will clock you as a pedo
Yeah no shit the game that only sold because it looked like a movie game for normalqueers wouldn't have been successful if it didn't look like a movie game.
>>741048754Genshin also makes more money in a month than this game made since release LMAO
There are plenty of JRPGs I liked more than E33, but I will never understand the insecurity this game produces. It's like to conjures memories of being shoved into a locker for liking Persona 3.
>>741048880LOL half of my friends are giga normies and they still play Mihoyo shit and watch stuff like Bebop. You are pathetic.
>>741048909France keeps getting mogged. Embarrassing. Look at this manlet.
>>741043443You're estimates are way off. Using rough Fermi estimates assumes you have an accurate sample of the base.Some casual back-of-the-napkin math and a rewatch of India: the Worst Country on Earth tells me that attractive pajeetas would occur in similar numbers to Scandi cuties if the Indian population was ~4e19
No surprise. All JRPG has to do is take out the tranime shit and the edgy teenager "grownups are bad and we have to kill God!" Shit that plagues the entire genre. Also E33 has the best turn based combat since Legend of Dragoon so that helps too
>>741048976>I hang out with pedosis that meant to be a flex?
>>741048754>>741048909>the subhuman gachaslopper trying to fit in LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>741042768Truly a game for the White race.
>>741048959People are just tired of how shilled this game was. It's a decent and pretty short RPG, while retards keep acting like it was the best video game ever made.
>>741048880Mihoyo is more publicly known and accepted than the creepy French "J"RPG
>>741049012>edgy teenager "grownups are bad and we have to kill God!" Shit that plagues the entire genre.okay but e33 does that too
>>741040078Yes.jpeg
>>741041926I've played more JRPGs than you ever will, kid. E33 is a great game. Not the best JRPG ever, but easily top 50.
>>741049030Why is anime gacha more publicly accepted than a creepy wapanese French RPG? I thought the public rejected anime, apparently not.
>>741048742>>741048794Be more obvious.
>>741039691If it's generic ass moeshit, yes, it would just disappear in the void.But if it was something more unique, it would sell as well as the realistic one or even better.
>FF7>P5>E33That's it, that's the list
>>741049026>>741049030LOL you dream your crap was as popular or relevant as Genshin.
>>741049012E33 doesn't even pass the minimum bar for a JRPG. Literally any final fantasy pre-2005 blows it out of the water into orbit.
>>741040078>cuck and tranny fetish out of nowhereyou can't help yourself
>>741049065wrong
>>741049110>publicly accepted
>>741049159ESL-kun... Hopefully you'll age out of your sickness before you act on it, for your family's sake
>>741049234Are all E33 shills as pathetic as you?
I played metaphor Refantazio after playing E33 and I instantly remembered what a JRPG is supposed to have, like towns that you can revisit and a core concept that isn't ripped from DS1's painted world of ariamis. It was a revelation. It's so much better than E33 it's not even funny.
I'll pubelicky accept Maelle's cunny
>>741049274You tell me
>>741049175>>741049207Cope
>>741049207I guarantee you that 20x more people in the west played Genshin than E33. It didn't even make top10 best selling games of 2025 and that's with 50% normal price.
>>741049313But I’m not shilling this trash retard-kun.
>>741049407No one even remembers what E33 is. Meanwhile there's plumbers/electricians in texas that walk in to someone's house, see an anime figure, and go "is that one of those genshin impacts"
>>741039691The anime style would be much more appealing to me if they stopped making them have retarded hair colors and the outfits were a little more subdued.
>>741049487Yet you are here in the E33 thread and not in the Genshin thread huh funny how that works
>>741049282>what a JRPG is supposed to have, like towns that you can revisitThat's why I hated Xenoblade 3.
>>741049558Dude I've started 500+ reply genshin threads on this board without even trying, gfy
>>741049590And those threads are actually full of people talking about the game, ironic as it's a gacha, meanwhile this supposed actual game can only ever get flame war discussion between shills, fanboys, contrarians and trolls/ragebaiters
imagine blaming anime aesthetic in the year incelsona and anime as whole is making money everywhere and its nomal to talk about anime.its just that the weabo or LARPERS are angry that their game are not being taken seriously when that is false.They are but they want to be seen as theh second coming of christ.I remember when peple were praising xb2 and now the majority agrees that its garbo and not worth it outside coomers.
>>741049590Yet you are in the E33 thread haha
>>741045147>and when I asked her to reconsider some other turn-based titles she would say those aren't BG3 and E33 so she wouldn't like itE33 and Baldur's Gate 3 are normgroid approved, that's it. It's been reinforced so heavily to normies that these are GOOD and not only is it okay to like it but really they MUST like it because everybody does
>>741049663niche anime crap tends to be more harmonic since most people stay well away from pedoshit
Why do E33fags consistently express contempt for every other game in the genre if they are supposedly also JRPG fans as I keep being told? And if they do like something else, its only turbo normalnigger shit like Chrono Trigger
>>741049680Only here to promote metaphor against E33 my friend
>>741048880>pedos will hit you because only they are allowed to be pedosOutting yourself as a pedo anon? And yes this is the reality. The more unhinged and reactionary someone is to anime the more likely they are to be a pedo.
>>741049762Reminds me of the AI Limit threads which were by far the comfiest on this boardAnime website btw gfy
>>741039691this image is right if you're some normalfag, E33 is an okay game but I still prefer all the Xeno games over it. E33 seems like nostalgia bait if you haven't touched a real jrpg in ages but if you play them on a somewhat normal basis you realize the stuff it does similar to jrpgs it gets wrong or its just on par with them.
>>741049792>metaphor against E33dam bro is a masochist lol
>>741048797that all you've got ?I'll just go enjoy my 10/10 game
>>741049814>source: I made it up to feel better about myself
>>741049789go back to the weeb swamps of reddit, frogtard
>>741039691>muh animeGenshin Impact makes more money in a month than all the revenue that E33 has collected so far.
>>741049163what is the bar? i love old ff, but e33 is great toothe devs literally set out to make an old ff style game, as the top guy thought no one was making games like that any longer
>>741049710It might just be that there is a massive quality difference in encounter design between BG3 and the average CRPG. Everybody who slogged through an Owlcat RPG should be aware of that if they aren't too busy seething about normalfags. Same for E33 combined with other menu battlers. Expedition's active components prevent regular encounters from becoming tedious as quickly as they normally do.
>>741039691Unfortunately, he's right. An anime art style limits you to a certain playerbase, because people can easily identify the artstyle and attribute certain qualities to it, whether or not the game actually has them. Anime games are also a part of Japanese exoticism; people usually play them BECAUSE of their Japanese influence, not in spite of it. If you aren't a lover of Japanese culture, most anime games immediately get put in the 'not the kind of game for me' pile.
>>741049987how many more times are you gonna keep making the same post?
>>741045147It takes time to get into something you want to hate. I started watching anime full time at age 18, years after I had already found some anime I not only liked, but loved. Also the first 2 turn based JRPGs I played and finished and liked (aside from pokemon as a kid) was Neptunia rebirth 1 and #FE, while seemingly ignoring the existence of, frankly, every other turn based jrpg ever for years to come.
>>741049282that's a low bar
>>741049789They are outsourced Game Pass shills who don't play games so they don't know how to actually sell the game. Yes, this means they are from that place, India.
>>741043158>cartooning and animation is lazyyou're the reason everything is green screen realism and 3D pixarslop and why the west lost its artistic craftsmanship
Sure. There's also a limit to the emotiveness of anime style. It's very minimalist and relies heavily on the eyes for emotional cues. An art style evolves to convey the things that speak to that particular culture and art, so purity, cleanliness, and simplicity. It works well for romance scenes, but also desperate longing, dejection, and even wrath. It's also up to the artist to actually BE different no matter what their style is. One of the most emotionally jarring scenes I've seen in the last year was from DandaDan season 2, when they attempt to exorcise the evil eye. There's so much going on in it, the colors are clashing, the music is powerful and at complete odds with Gigi sobbing and begging them to spare the spirit while grandma is hovering over him weighing her options, Marc fucking Hudson is there for some reason. All undercut with what you know about the evil eye. Evil spirit or not, he's just a kid. He didn't have a chance. There are other games like Claire Obscur that use facial tracking and mocap, but the actual art style is intentionally modeled after a painting, specifically realism, with its stark shading and muted tones. It's meant to show humans as we are, not how a corporate boardroom sees us. Black samurais and fat ninja sidekicks? It's no fucking wonder this group left Ubisoft. They wanted to tell the truth, and Ubisoft wanted them to lie, forever, every time. We're different in appearance but we're so similar in nature. We love, we lose, and we lie, cheat, grieve and rage against it all. The ultimate bad guy, the setting's Satan, just wants his fucking wife and kids back, and he'll do unholy things to save them.
>>741039691Journos pushed E33 ultra hard because it was a JRPG not made in Japan. That’s basically all it was about.
>>741046457>Putting aside how E33 draws people like this in like fliesWhat do you mean? It's some anime spergs with an inferiority complex randomly deciding that a game that is filled with japanese/anime trope is an attack on them. Like you, I guess.
>>741049792metaphor is aight but not as good as e33, sorry
>>741050032This is the first time ever I made this point.
>>741049891The source is all the faggots that get busted for it. Like all the anti gay politicians that get busted for having gay sex.You can pretend to be retarded all you want. If you flip the fuck out over anime you're likely a pedo.
>>741050081I am sorry or I am happy for you.
>>741050118Sneaky anon isn't talking about the Genshin post, but this >>741050118 one.
>>741050181I'm begging you to read a book.
>>741040258>E33 wasn't a phenomenon. The game was astroturfed to hell and back and disappeared out of nowhere in a matter of seconds when the extremely Jewish game awards ended/thread
>>741043158as somebody who actually makes 3d models anime is far from lazy to create. The fact that you cant just face scan some actor alone makes it much more tougher to create than the modern realistic AAA game
>>741039691>generic Fire Emblem/Tales/Trails artstyle #3,465,346Even Xenoblade fans are shitting on this shitty mobile Isekai fantasy art style. That shit killed the Xeno series as a whole.
>>741049883>10/10This is what E33 fanboys actually believe. Like someone who's only ever eaten cow shit in their life and never ate beef so they think shit is 10/10 and beef is bad.
>>741049843E33AstlibraAI Limit3 best games I've played this decade. Everything else has been either shit, mid or just some task simulator to pass the time while trying to relax.
>>741050085>basically E33 grew naturally based on word of mouth. That's why it only reached its peak 10 days after launch, which was almost 3 times as high as what they started with. Hyped games start out strong and then fall off. Word of mouth takes a while to kick in.
>>741039913>Well because good anime style games are the norm.lol, no. Anime style games are synomous with low budget, overpriced, mediocre piles of shit like the bevy of anime games Bandai shits out yearly, or dog shit like Trails in the Sky.
>seething ff cucks pitting e33 against exclusively "anime" jrpgs because they have no defense for their own sloppacauses one to ponder
>>741050368>E33 grew naturally based on word of mouth.Ok Geoff
E33 having a shocking plot twist and controversial endings is the real reason why the game gained so much traction after release. Most JRPGs these days play it super safe and don't do anything controversial (Metaphor) or have a plot so convoluted that it's completely incomprehensible to normies (Xenoblade 3).
>>741039691i like animei hate "anime" like the garbage in your pic
>>741050173I'm sure your feelings are a valid source and scientific study in planet Retard
>>741050224I have a BA in philology.
>>741049009>garment color>garmenti think we can all read between the lines on this one
>>741050475>E33 having a shocking plot twistThe twist is that you're in the painted world of Ariamis from DS1.That's it. The major shocking plot twist is a ripoff of an optional dark souls level.
>>741050475wdym, E33's ending is way more convoluted than Xenoblade.
>>741050475I wouldn't pass you.
>>741050475the start was the perfect marketing tool that scene with the gomage and all that
>>741050463Trails in the Sky is actually the masterpiece that Slop 33 pretends to be.
>>741050565>golf is a rip-off of basketball because they both have balls That's deep.
>>741050570>>741050526Meant for this one.
>>741050565It's called gnosticism.
>>741050475>E33 having a shocking plot twist and controversial endingsNobody like OP actually got that far bro lmao
>>741040403Red-headed bratty loli who's always down to trash talk and walks around in tight leggings and a form-fitting long-sleeved shirt, but still exposes her ankles like a whore.
>>741050568What part did you not understand?
>>741050475Holy shit at the end of e33 you either kill your son or nuke ParisLife changing stuff man
>>741050608I'll take your word for it. Would never subject myself to hundreds of hours low budget anime movie games.
>>741050591The intro is really good yes. Its also largely copied from Attack on Titan and Gurren Lagan.
>>741050683MetaGODS won
>>741050678I didn't not understand any of them. But E33 stands on its own while Xenoblade 3 has 3 games prior that you can use to fill in the gaps. The ending chapter of E33 had me scratching my head for a good couple of hours though.
>>741050608>brotherfucker game that people rightfully drop lollmao even
>>741050591That was an incredibly efficient prologue. I was going in there all cynical "you're not gonna make me care about characters I just met" and then the music starts playing.
>>741050354what is a 10/10 game in (You)r opinion
Current asian jrpgs are mega cringe, bottom tier saturday morning cartoons but japanese :DDDA mockery of and a stain on the legacy of good jrpgs that stopped being made over 10 years ago because of retarded weeb waifu niggers.
>>741050648Well actual JRPG fans do play their games.
>>741040403Because she's hotAnd also a lot of people on the internet these days probably grew up being a similar age when that show was airing
>>741050731There was also a bit of Spider-Man, the Simpsons and angry German kid playing Unreal Tournament in there.
>>741039691True but that's not a bad thing by any stretch of the imagination.
>>741050780i got interested with that tutorial musicthey got me in quick
>>741043443remember though: there's way more indian men than indian women because they are so obsessed with "muh sons" they aborted/killed a lot of girlsjust like China
>>741050778>1 incest per minuteStill not as bad as Rick and Morty.
>>741050680>Taxi Driver is a movie about driving a Taxi
>>741050496Looks cool, what's this from?
>>741050634>cannot even quote properly >thinks he knows shit about philology
>>741039691Because if it had've been anime styled it absolutely would have had anime cliches and Japanese Humour.No, you don't get to just fucking say UM ACKSHUALLY IT WOULD BE THE EXACT SAME GAME BUT ANIME because you know it's dishonest. Because anime really is more than just the artstyle.If that's not the case then Panty and Stocking isn't an anime because it doesn't have an Anime art style.
>>741049789>E33fags consistently express contempt for every other game in the genreI don't at all. Just the modern ones who are not like old FF
I associate anime designs in games with low effort, low budget cash grabs that's aimed at losers who don't talk to women, so yeah. Basically you faggots.
>>741050939What is Avatar the Last Airbender for 100 points?
>>741050794Elden ring
>>741050931More like phallusology you fucking faggot.
>>741050990A cartoon.
>>741050780For me the intro did nothing. Cheap drama for characters I literally just met. It's no different from every JRPG were your village gets destroyed after 15 minutes. What did it for me was sailing to the island and getting absolutely mogged by a cool old man with a canesword, cape over his shoulders and a face with actual emotion (anime artstyles usually cannot do this)
>>741050475That contributed to it, but what made it great is just the overall quality.Graphics, music, voice acting, writing, gameplay all hit high marks
>>741050983So why are you seething at anime on an anime website? Doesn't that make you a turboloser?
>>741050909boku no pico
>>741050939not always sometimes you get games like LO.>generic moeblob is not anime , anime means animated in japan lol
>>741050778>>brotherfucker gameBased!
>>741051065>and a face with actual emotion (anime artstyles usually cannot do this)You mean you don't think :o to 8O is emotive?
>>741051030>phallusologyYou misspelled psychology there.
>>741050738>GODS>spamming metaphor in a e33 seethe threadseems about right
>>741046417>Not anymore>manchildthe irony is lost on you, go back to twitter, immigrant.
>>741050939>Because if it had've been anime styled it absolutely would have had anime cliches and Japanese Humour.We've have anime styled games without the weebness for over 40 years now dumb zoomer
>>741051065>cool old man with a canesword, cape over his shouldersThat's 200% anime.
>>741050863same, but i was already interested by the intro cutscene
>>741051110Oh thanks anon I'll go look that up right now. I'm just at work at the moment so don't tell my boss haha.
anime is a low iq medium and its fans are repulsive emotionally subnormal, is it really a surprise that most of them are crossdressing weirdos?
>>741051067All those have very glaring flaws.
All western games are bad.
>Characters some times yell out the name of their special movepretty anime desu
>>741051181It IS anime. E33 is super anime. I still consider it part of the Xenoblade canon. But the presentation is not. And that's the big deal. Anime haters just got conned into enjoying a good ol anime story because it was presented extremely well
>>741051029do you even like jrpgs? why are you in a jrpg thread if you don't
>>741051242Not all western games are bad but all American games are bad.
>>741048249>submit to the normgroid gestalt or die aloneNice try. Odds are you'll die divorced and hating yourself for never being yourself but acting as what the kikes wanted.
>>741051224>posted from my shithole
>>741051232Not enough to not be GOTDYou're just a hater who is mad you're favorite game does not get as much attention
>>741051251That's not weird, Hollywood has been doing that for ages now. Some guy outright copied half the plot of Perfect Blue and got an Oscar because of it.
>>741051251this is my problem with E33 its just a poorly written Xenoblade game made by people who vaguely understand jrpgs.
>>741051340My two favorite games are cult classics so that's not really an issue.
>>741051279Mmmm no all western games are bad, and eurojank is the worst of the bunch.
>>741051269I would consider FF9 to be close to a 10/10, it's one of my favorite games of all time. In fact FF6 through 10 are all up there, as well as Metaphor.
>>741051269Elden Ring is a Japanese RPG.
>>741040258>>741040437It's even funnier that threads of this game die so fast unless you're shitposting about it
>>741051403yet you're still here seething
>>741043154Yes, just on the back of real mythras panty shots it would become a hit.
>>741051464>mixtape in 2nd placeThat's kind of fucked up. E33 is still a game.
>>741051464COE33 and crimson desert are definitely 1 and 2
>>741051458you're being obtuse
>>741051340Game of the Decade is a game so iconic and influential that it defines the entire decade. E33 has many good qualities but it doesn't qualify.
inspired =/= jrpg you are the one that is giving it labelsall they said wasExpedition 33 devs say "being recognized in Japan" is "very personal to us" after making a game "inspired by so many incredible JRPGs we grew up with"
>>741051413E33 was literally made to be in a similar style of game to old FF. I love old FF. I love E33. I don't see how you can be so contrarian that you don't like both.
>>741051471I did get upset about the Dorito Pope nominating E33 for best indie game. But that's unrelated to game's quality.
>>741051548>gacha poster thinks his opinion is worth listening to
>>741051627i can see that, but desu who the FUCK cares about indie or what indie isis it a good game? honestly the category should be removed, or there at least needs to be a proper definition of indie
Expedition 33 is right inbetween Chrono Trigger and FF6 in lengthmost modern jrpgs are 60-120 hours long and take their sweet time getting goingI do not think E33 has an advantage because its realistic, its because it delivers an experience without 40 extra hours of bullshit between everything and no bear ass collecting side quests
>good game would be worse if it were badReally makes you think.
>>741039691>unpopular racist opinion
>>741051718Length is a factor. Presentation is another and also being a turn based jrpg you can play like a parryslop is another.
>>741051838go back
>>741051718Bear ass collecting is SOVLFUL thougheverbeit
>>741041034this is cope, E33 didn't have anime tropes
>>741051315odds are you kill yourself once you realize how badly you've messed up but there's no one to soothe your aching
>>741051718TRVKEit's also why ff4 one of the best ffs, minimal bullshit
>>741050496More like you like one anime webm from something you never watched.
>>741051608Because e33 doesn't contain half the stuff you find in an old FF. It also awkwardly adds soulslike parrying for no reason.
>>741052007Play more jrpgs and find out how many it actually had.
>>741051143kek
>>741051087
Parryslop
>>741052359>Because e33 doesn't contain half the stuff you find in an old FFLike what?I can understand not liking parry, but you can still just play it on easiest and facetank. I don't even like souls games but I like the parry system a lot, it makes battles tense
>>741040238lol seething weeb.
>>741040078fag
>>741039691Of course he's right. There is a very large number of Westerners who view anime as "pedo shit" purely because it's anime. A 16 year old in anime? Fucking disgusting. The 16 year old in Clair Obscure who is blatantly sexualized? No problem at all. You are free to lust over her because it's not anime.
>>741052450kek dogwalked that loser pedo
>>741052475
>>741052035I stand tall while you kneel to the jew.
>>741045196>I'm actually laughingSure, anon.
>>741039691>Hot take: [coldest take imaginable]
>>741052450that's not even the real post, look it up in the archive.
>>741052478I had fun exploring the cities in metaphor because it's just like any other JRPG where you can explore cities. You can't do that in E33 outside this one poorly designed village. There's really no side quests either, and the optional areas are best compared to the shitty procedurally generated dungeons in Elden ring.
>>741052528>The 16 year old in Clair Obscure who is blatantly sexualized?Technically she's 32. Also nobody rages over the 16 year-olds in anime. BNHA sexualizes the shit out of all of them and it's fine for cons. Nobody outside of a loud minority that's currently pissing about Stellar Blade cares.People only get uncomfortable when you start doing it with the preteen characters like a fucking psycho.
An anime art style tells me right off the bat that the artists were too lazy to come up with their own thing.
>>741040602All you have to do is look at the credits you retardhttps://youtu.be/LH8-ebU-EoM?si=YJBn-oLg9ay9x7nL&t=396
>>741039691It really pisses me off how they still use Gustave as the face of the game for almost all promotional material, because he really felt like it but instead.>Take this guy that is the central focus of the narrative, always open about his hopes and fears, and has a close relation with the rest of the major cast, a clear objective and a lot of room for growth.> He really feels like the player's POV character and through the 5~6 hours we have him we grow really attached to the guy already>THEN KILL HIM OFF SUDDENLY>Now your new POV is a guy that is completely secretive to his origins and goals>Said guy is constantly lying to our faces and it is obvious as fuck, no one in the party knows him and eventually the one that does know him is also hiding things from us>Then turns out HE was the focus of the narrative from the start.This fucking game, say what you want about it but its writing is fucking stellar, it pisses me off but it is really well done.
anime bad
>>741046752literally why would Ubi do that? Their reputation is in the toilet. they need their name on some hit games right now.
>>741052690>explore cities>metaphorcome on now, metaphor is good but that's the worst part, you just run through them once and after that press a button to teleport to the place you need to go.i guess if you somehow like talking to all NPCs to read their retarded flavor text then I can see it>There's really no side quests eithernow you're just making shit up. Did you even try to explore the map?
>>741052865Because their reputation is in the toilet so their name being attached to it is enough to discourage people from buying it.
>>741052690There's tons more small detail examples. Like in every old FF you can explore the airship you're in. You can do that with the gauntlet runner in metaphor. You cannot do that with esquie in e33. Now in e33 you do get the campfire, but that's actually less unique than the hotel rooms in a traditional JRPG. The character relationship level up in e33 is similar to the atlus games, except whereas a Japanese game knows to keep it subtle and innocent, e33 just has verso explicitly have casual sex with the women - not cool, but a clear distinction between east and west I guess.
>>741052695>Also nobody rages over the 16 year-olds in anime.Yes they do. It doesn't matter that these are people who aren't actually engaging with the medium. It doesn't matter that these are people who go through life existing just to be offended. It doesn't matter that these are people who don't contribute anything meaningful to society. What matters is they collectively shit all over the place at every given opportunity over anime girls and that has lead to the situation we're in now where Japanese developers can't even create a game for their home market with panty flashing without it immediately being given an adult only rating. You may not want to admit it but this collective shouting actually does accomplish something because everyone in a position of power will gladly take any opportunity for easy PR.
>>741052695>Technically she's 32.this is the same argument as "umm aschtually she's a 2000 year old dragon"
>>741039691fag33 is such a shit game
>>741052923that's stupid. Making good games would help their reputation, and might actually save their company.People would start going "Ubi have been turning it around lately. Maybe I'll buy more from them".
>>741050565
>>741052958>hotel rooms in a traditional JRPGliterally nothing happens in them 99% of the time
>>741052690lack of sidequests and towns were also among the many reasons why FF13 was such a dogshit game
>>741051178Yeah, how IS the Valkyrie Profile IP doing again?
>>741039691It's easier to take one more seriously than the other if you're going for some impactful story.Not to say some anime styles aren't fine, a perfect example is the schism between Xenoblade and Xenoblade Remake that people argue about.If they could make a game with that 1970s/80s anime aesthetic I'm sure many people would view it different, but trying to make something like Legend of Galactic Heroes into 3d is likely...troublesome.
>>741052958>e33 just has verso explicitly have casual sex with the women - not coolok now this has to be bait
>>741053125E33 literally rips off everything from souls games from the level up stat allocation to the weapon upgrades to the boss designs and their Elden ring delayed attacks. It even has soulslike platforming for zero good reason. Do you really think they didn't get the idea of the painting from ariamis/ariandel?
>>741052406No, no. Go ahead, enlighten us.
>>741053181tri-ace will surely show off the next game and not SO7 or SO3Rsigh
>>741053293Baten Kaitos will be back for sure
>>741039691Anime aesthetics have a very loyal fanbase and are very popular among people that play video games.But it does have a cap, the big normies hate anime.
>>741040868Goddamn Man of Action's art style was so good. Invincible tries to replicate it but it lacks the sovl
>>741053187This is also a whole thing. The modern "anime style" generally means effeminate men, and blob women. It's not cool to look at. Everyone is skinny and androgynous.
>>741053271>soulslike platforming
>>741053127You don't need shit to happen necessarily just like you can have teleports in a city making traversal pointless, the fact that they are there is a huge difference, it's a matter of presentation. If we replaced all cities in a JRPG with generic dungeons with no living people like E33 or ER then mechanically it would be the same, but thematically it would be quite different. But whereas souls/ER take place in a dying/dead world/nightmare, E33 takes place in a world with living people, but doesn't take advantage of that. The only location in e33 that gave me a proper JRPG feeling was monoco's station and even then it was very barebones.
>>741039691It's true but that's because it's a western game with western writing. Maybe it would have been more popular in Japan but they probably wouldn't have appreciated the story as much as the big western fanbase does.
>>741053290No, you will stay ignorant forever.
>>741039691He is right. I, the person who doesn't like jrpgs because of their presentation, liked Expedition 33 because it wasn't anime. I know a lot of people irl sharing the same sentiment. Anime freakshow just doesn't have the same appeal for most people.
>>741053721>to be a "proper" rpg you need inns where nothing happens 99% of the time because this makes the game fun to explorejust sounds like you're nitpicking and if this is the only criticism as to why you like say FF9 and not E33 I can't take you seriously
>>741039691>they still ultimately have a cap on their playerbaseEverything does, especially the crap that modern Hollywood labels "normal". The important thing is that anime style has enough fans that it can prop up multiple scenes worth tens of billions of dollars each, and it's not even close to saturated.The problem facing anime games is that Japan is scared to take risks with it and launch ambitious titles that don't fit the traditional mold for anime games in terms of gameplay. For example, people are obviously hungry for open world anime games, but this was basically completely untapped until China came along.
>>741053916I mean there's a whole bunch of other things to say but having explorable cities vs not having them is a non-trivial difference not a nitpick. Like when you go to lindblum or treno in ff9 thats an actual distinct location that you'll keep revisiting. You could say the same for kakariko village from Zelda for example. You don't have that in E33 at all you just rest at the bonfire and go forward then forget the level. It doesn't have the revisiting that a JRPG does and it doesn't have the interconnected level design a souls game has, so E33 is just one long boss rush corridor.
>>741052993really is
>>741040258T R U K E D &N U K E D
>>741052690I will never forgive E33 for having not one but TWO separate gambling/casino locations only for there to be no minigame or anything associated with it. Like why?
>>741053195It doesn't and simply can't have something cute/innocent/moe like Eupha or Hulkenberg in Metaphor, but I think that's due to the cultural difference between Japan and France. Or it's because of the Jews.
>>741054342There is cute/innocent stuff in the game, what the fuck are you talking about.
>>741054145>I rate games based on how many cities there are and how explorable they areThis is some next level autism
>>741041858
>>741052820>it pisses me off but it is really well done…so what’s the problem then?
>>741054724I would say you are being reductionist but yes actually. When I compare E33, which doesn't have cities/towns, to old FFs which have lots of them, I notice just one way E33 is nowhere close to replicating a classic squaresoft JRPG.
>>741039691Does this chucklefuck legitimately believe that every single person in the world who plays videogames is interested in playing E33? Or even every single person who likes turn based?I get that this is a ludicrous question, but the point is that there's a cap for everything, including this boring crap that wants to be "taken seriously". I'll translate what it means to be "taken seriously": It means that it doesn't make some vapid Karen reflexively roll her eyes. The cap on media that's obsessed with Karen's approval is much smaller than the cap on anime-style.
>>741054837>if you nitpick and expect everything to be exactly the same they are nothing alikelike i said, next level autism
>>741039691metaflop got its royal edition cancelled so he's right. Persoyna 5 was a fluke
>>741040258Based gwenGOD
>>741055059>expect everything to be exactly the sameStrawman
>>741054816I hate and love this game, you could say it is a CLAIR OBSCUR kinda feeling HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
>>741054932Samefag here.Think about the strong trees that Hollywood is currently parasitizing to death. They're all a bunch of sci-fi and fantasy franchises that were roundly mocked by the mean girls and their simps back in the day. Star Wars, Pokemon, Marvel, Star Trek, D&D, etc.. The same "limited market" argument has been made for men in spandex and and wizards fighting demons. The simple fact of the matter is that guys love things that are over-the-top, and men are the core of any thriving entertainment industry. Giving a shit about the opinions of the mean girls is death for entertainment. It becomes especially stupid once you understand that the mean girls are consensus-driven creatures who want to see men take charge and the way to actually earn their respect is to just ignore them and barrel forward with things that will be popular with guys.My point is that Japan has let retards like this guy scare them into not fulfilling their potential, which is why China has been eating their lunch. And I'd argue that China has only hit the tip of the iceberg and are also tied down by CCP censorship that stops them from making, say, an actual anime GTA.
>>741040437But silksong is literally funded by jewish billionare backers
>>741039691I genuinely don't care. Imagine fretting over what artstyle you think will get other normoids to approve your shit. Who cares? As long as it looks good to (You), genuinely why would you give a shit?>>741056520China is still entirely irrelevant when it comes to video games. They haven't made anything that appeals to people who actually like games, just gachaslop and coombait.
>>741053271No.Souls stole knights and monsters from DnD.Fromsoft has never created anything original
Most likely the most brown thread on /v/ right now even though there are multiple gacha threads up, really saying something.
>>741057891pro-e33 threads tend to attract e33 fans who, unfortunately, make the threads browner with their presence.
>>741039691>Claire wouldn't have been an afroturfed snoozefest with the most pretentious fanbase imaginable if it had an anime art styledamn... if anime artstyles are what keep the sheep in check, then we need more of them, and they need lolis too to gatekeep the faggots as well
>>741039691yes he's right. All the people claiming E33 was a genre defining RPG are just people who never play RPGs due to being anime. Nothing it does is genre defining
>>741039691>E33>phenomenonit was forgotten about a week after the awards show
>>741039691anime is super popular but it also scares basic normies
>>741040258I was going to say precisely this. I don't know anybody who played E33, I never saw any organic discussion about it anywhere, shit is beyond astroturfed
>>741059008this isn't the 2000s anongenshin is a household name, it's not scaring anyone
>translated from portugese twitter post>500 repliesarriba arriba
>>741059105The Exp 33 crowd does not play Genshin. They would find it too pedo or childish
>>741039691Probably true
>>74104344310% of 1 billion may be more than 50% of 1 million, but that doesn't change the fact that 10% is worse than 50%.
>>741048235Love this game
>>741059008Western game does fanservice>This is so valid, omg Astarion is getting prolapsed by a bearEastern game/anime style game does fanservice >Yikes, she looks too young! Give her some wrinkles for fucks sakes!
>>741043443Lol no, their mean is too low. Just as there are more 130+ IQ people in the US than as in India.
>>741059139Imagine this thread with IP countersWorse, imagine this thread with IDs!Dear lord, the horrors!
>>741055739i'm not trying to convince you, there's obviously no point because you're peak autism shows
>>741059139>>741059515timmies are mad uh oh
>>741059143I think that the fallacy is that this group represents the average person and that the group that's offput by the artstyle of E33 is so miniscule that they're basically just a non-factor.Hollywood has been aggressively stomping out nerd media for 25 years on the premise that it drives away the normies, and looking at the state of their machine, you should be able to tell that they weren't operating in reality. Nerds are just the actual fanatics who are obsessed with the genre and are always on the hunt for good stuff, and as long as you're someone who's cut out to be a leader in the entertainment industry, their takes are an excellent resource for finding the next big thing.
>>741059515you should see all the other e33 hate threads retards make daily
>>741040258This. It was advertised as a "heckin indie chungus" but it was backed up by the biggest fucking money imaginable. They paid for the premium indian package of astro turfing everywhere.
>unpopular opinion: if we change one thing in [popular thing] it wouldn't be as successfull>please, write a comment, discuss and engage
>>741059620i'll have to keep an eye out, I don't usually see many hate threads compared to how many positive e33 threads there are constantly.
>>741051659Kil yourself shill.
>>741052820He is also a specific trope copied from animes like Attack on Titan and Gurren Lagan.
The shill campaign certainly would have been weaker if it was an anime game because anime is supposedly embarrassing despite being full of great male entertainment compared to Hollywood trash.
>>741053413These days anime is far more popular than Hollywood slop. The folk who hate anime are a loud minority.
>>741060139Ok I get Gurren Lagann, Kamina felt like he was the actual MC for the first 7-8 episodes.But what about Shingeki? Eren was the protagonist from start to finish.
>>741059875usually it is the haters that make the positive ones too, they just go there to spam their shit
>>741057121Jews aren't automatically evil.
>>741059957>gacha poster>calls other person shilllmao
>>741039691Counterpoint: Nintendo games
>>741060479Did you actually watch SnK? It's pretty obvious which character I am talking about.
>>741051521>somehow 2 games gcj is mad about is the most "astroturfed"this is the most retarded thing spammed on here lately
>>741060529I told you to kys. Now go ahead with your ultimate purpose in life.
>>741060497History says otherwise.
>>741060605ummm Erwin?
>>741060642E33 is troon approved now.
>>741040679Green GODS I KNEEL
>>741060642I just did a quick search for "e33"/"expedition 33"/"clair obscur" on the gamingcirclejerk page on reddit and there's barely any threads talking about the game?? most are over a year old at this point
>>741060716they are the ones posting that picture, go back to gcj
>>741060716>now
>>741060773yes, they are turbo autists who pretend they are the other gender, they autisticly cling to spamming retarded shit
>>741060773The E33 haters are mostly randoms on Twitter. The gcj crowd are far more sinister bunch.
>>741060930I got that image from kia I think.
>>741061114you should go back there
>>741060773uhh the haters are all troons, and the people that praise the game? they're troons too trying to turn /v/ against the game by, uh, praising it. in fact the game is so niche and underground that there actually hasn't been a single e33 fan to post on /v/ yet, it's all just troons manufacturing both sides of the narrative
>>741061234actual posters see what you're doing, you're stick out like a sore thumb ITT
>>741061148You don't even know what kia is.
>>741051224"Animation, japan" isn't a unique medium
I have tried to read through every E33 thread I've seen since the game awards to see what people think and without fail, every thread has been filled with people accusing each other of being brown for thinking it's best/worst game every created. I'm not convinced any of you faggots like or hate the game at this point, literally no one talks about the game. I even went into the archives to see how it was closer to release before and after the 4chan blackout and it was rife with more shitposts than actual discussion. Are these just proxy shitpost threads like the horse girl threads?
>>741051718>most modern jrpgs are 60-120 hours long and take their sweet time getting goingPersona is not most modern JRPGs, they are still typically 30-50 hour games.
I'm still of the opinion that you must be a freak of nature to like the gameplay. Turn based combat PLUS parryslop???? None of these are bad in and of themselves but it's like mixing chocolate and ananas together. You are a taste freak if you like this combination.
>>741040096Anime games invented the idea of protagonists wearing cosplay. And because nobody in anime games is older that 17, nobody is married, the main theme of Clair Obscur
>>741062921it's a good game for people who pretend to like games
>>741061902That's every single thread on the board for the last 4 months though
>>>/a/288709301 >>>/a/288708998 >>>/a/288708894 >>>/a/288708828 >>>/a/288708812 >>>/a/288708808 >>>/a/288708802 >>>/a/288708766 >>>/a/288708748 >>>/a/288708738 >>>/a/288708733 >>>/a/288708681 >>>/a/288708677 >>>/a/288708655 >>>/a/288708605 >>>/a/288708599 >>>/a/288708579 >>>/a/288708526 >>>/a/288708326 >>>/a/288708314 >>>/a/288708286 >>>/a/288708267 >>>/a/288708257 >>>/a/288708238 >>>/a/288708116 >>>/a/288708104 >>>/a/288707991 >>>/a/288707946 >>>/a/288707936 >>>/a/288707929 >>>/a/288707924 >>>/a/288707917 >>>/a/288707900 >>>/a/288707889 >>>/a/288707855 >>>/a/288707772 >>>/a/288707747 >>>/a/288707704 >>>/a/288706098 >>>/a/288701075 >>>/a/288699758 >>>/a/288699690 >>>/a/288699843 >>>/a/288699924 >>>/a/288699380 >>>/a/288699226 >>>/a/288695014 >>>/a/288699637 >>>/a/288693733 >>>/a/288693670Seek help, !Akemi. How you act will never be normal.
