>let's keep the game going for another 10 years
XIV generalsVideo game generalsBelong on /vg/
>>741049748nah it's not a general just a thread it'll be gone in a few hours
Fell asleep during a dungeon run as a dark knight once, left and never looked back
The game sucks dick and the wrong SE MMO died.
your game
>We're moving to weekly content!That's great expect that dungeons are still awful. Why do MMOs even have dungeons
>>741050149What is transpiring here
>>741049115Why though? It sucks. I stopped playing after an hour or so.
Is there anyone I can play once the beta release on July for the Switch 2? Planning on playing as a healer for the first time ever (had two accounts prior, a warrior then a dragoon)
They could make this offline.
>>741052414Or maybe a healing guide before July?
>>741050218in FFXIV's case they're usually story setpieces
>>741049115Makes more sense than building a whole new MMO in this day and age.
>>741049115FFXI got an expansion EIGHTEEN (18) years after it released. Why not FFXIV?
>>741054297One of these is well within the Boomer LARP Quotient of arbitrary MMO age and one of these is not + is also actively competing with World of Warcraft
>>741054417Ffxiv arr is now older than ff11 was when it was put on life support
>>741054473Right, hence the Boomer LARP Quotient, it has more to do with FFXI having visibly dated graphics really. Nothing has really come out since FFXIV vis-a-vis MMOs worth anyone's time (we'll see if that changes with Guild Wars 3 and Aion 2 but I honestly doubt it given GW2 and Aion's track records) so it's still "modern".
>>741054297>FFXI got an expansion EIGHTEEN (18) years after it releasedOh boy wait until you hear about World of Warcraft.
>>741049748You will never be a janny.
>>741054417>Boomer LARP Quotient of arbitrary MMO ageisnt that what wow is
>>741049115It's unironically the only thing keeping SE alive at this point. The FF franchise at large has been a money drain since XIII.
>>741054841On paper yes but WoW itself has undergone so much enshittification and repeated identity-death, up to and including flaunting around its original identity through Classic, that I think it occupies a bizarre no-man's-land between new and old MMOs.
wow it's almost like the business model of every single mmo ever made is to go on until they stop making money
>>741050275XIV hater uses anything they can grasp to attack the game, even though that has nothing to do with what they are implyingSad really
>>741055507People get really snippy if we talk about how MMOs are live-service games and always have been
>>741055586do they get snippy when I bring up the fact that MMOs rely heavily on the social aspect to make up for a lack of engaging content
XIV's combat feels like shit, it's why no content they add satisfies people. It's just an MSQ lobby/ERP chatroom.
>>741049115I mean, yeah?If people are still giving them money, why wouldn't they keep it going?
Final ZeroCHAD Eureka updategg
>>741049115The 5.3 shadowbabs are not returning
>>741054562>lil gup doesn't know about EverquestWoWbabbies are embarrassing.
>>741056268I literally remember when you started. Your first post here in anemos.
>>741056405>he doesn't know about the forgotten relics of the MMO world!!!
>>741056529>WoWbabby thinks MMO history began with his shitty casualized normalfag skinnerboxLOL
>>741056353I wish.
>>741057446the bright side is the streamers have largely fucked off
>>741049748>still trying to dodge filtersstill pathetic
>>741056353>Athene is coming back for 8.0>Swifty is coming back for 8.0>Elliot Rodger is coming back for 8.0>Maye is coming back for 8.0>Reckful is coming back for 8.0>Bothero is coming back for 8.0>moot is coming back for 8.0>DiscordianKitty is coming back for 8.0>SsethTzeentach is coming back for 8.0>Chris Metzen is coming back for 8.0>GimpyTheAce is coming back for 8.0>Valentine is coming back for 8.0>Hamlette is coming back for 8.0>Ralph is coming back for 8.0>Asmongold is coming back for 8.0>Zepla is coming back for 8.0>Jesse McCree is coming back for 8.0>Bobby Kotick is coming back for 8.0>Michael-Christopher Koji Fox is coming back for 8.0>Ezra Chatterton is coming back for 8.0>pezado is coming back for 8.0>Bellular is coming back for 8.0>Jesse Cox is coming back for 8.0>Markiplier is coming back for 8.0>Foxxo is coming back for 8.0>Steve Danuser is coming back for 8.0>Paragon is coming back for 8.0>Preach is coming back for 8.0>TotalBiscuit is coming back for 8.0>Magnianon is coming back for 8.0>Gurgthock is coming back for 8.0>PewDiePie is coming back for 18.0>Crusader3455 is coming back for 8.0>AVGN is coming back for 8.0>Memefox is coming back for 8.0>Anders Breivik is coming back for 8.0>Pyromancer is coming back for 8.0>Ashens is coming back for 8.0>Bro team pill is coming back for 8.0>Death and Taxes is coming back for 8.0>Dopefish is coming back for 8.0>Nobbel is coming back for 8.0>HayvenGames is coming back for 8.0>Ghostcrawler is coming back for 8.0>Taliesin is coming back for 8.0>Pinklala is coming back for 8.0>Russel Brower is coming back for 8.0>Furor is coming back for 8.0>YoshiP is coming back for 8.0>JoshPriest is coming back for 8.0>Elvine is coming back for 8.0>Nirimer is coming back for 8.0>Vizex Xene is coming back for 8.0
>>741057552don't get a hypertension headache about it anon
>>741057580I think you're the only one tensing.
>>741057828that makes no sense in this context
>>741050149pink tachikoma
>>741056180Get your pet janny to clean this one up too
>>741058231It does because you're mad.
what did you guys do today?i got praetorium 3 roulettes in a row
>remember mods exist>find a cool job overhaul>paywalled for 20 fucking dollarsI hate the chineseI hate the chineseI hate the chinese
I am hereby announcing my self-insert as Jullus Norbanus and claiming Zero as my one-and-only wife.Pic related. This is when it all started. Please cease all romantic notions towards her immediately wish us a joyous and everlasting life together.
>>741058338
>>741058478sorry bwo, she's already mineI'm summoning her across the rift every two minutes to cast fey wind on my dick
>>741058460was working and watching the world cup, so just the alliance and raid roulette, got the weeping city, which was rare but a welcome change from the crystal tower
>>741058545preferring her in her voidsent avatar form is ascended taste
>>741049748>>741054715>>741058294
>>741058460>what did you guys do today?I finished my Speen EX grind. Just Necron left now.>i got praetorium 3 roulettes in a rowWhy would you do that?
>>741058478She belongs to Avery>>741056268this guy
can i report people for focusing me in frontlines while im riding my transpider
I don't care about the current plot, so we are going to another shard, to stop the calyx equivalent from there because calyx told us so, ok?
>>741058719mentor roulette. no sprouts in any of them. lol>>741058574how'd your team do?
14 days until darkspear dash!!!!!
>>741058460I fiddled with OC for a bit before I remembered that forays are gay and boring
>>741058792>how'd your team do?actually really well, we only wiped 2 times, one at the forgall and other at ozma, trough for forgall we killed with only 3 people alive the second time lol
>>741058880they're palatable. its too bad BA, DRS and FT are locked in discord jail
>>741058943was talking about world cup, but i'm surprised to hear about wipes even in weeping city these days
>>741058745lets see his zero folder then
https://poal.me/kokx6bhttps://poal.me/kokx6bhttps://poal.me/kokx6b
>>741058990>was talking about world cupoh lol, honestly the matchs today were really fucking boring, qatar vs swiss was meh and brazil vs morrco was really ass, didn’t watched Scotland one but I assume it was meh too, and so far usa is playing strong but it going to get ass raped after the group phase
>>741059075Can we just please not engage with him. He's a loser. He's in his 30s, jobless and lives with his mom. He's a league of legends tourist. Just, ignore him so he doesn't shit up this thread.
>>741059169is FIFA just as rigged as NFL, NBA, etc? i truthfully don't know
soccer is for fucking faggots, no one cares
>>741049748Why are fire emblem fags like this?
>>741059227just pretend its blitzball
>>741059283Someone here made me laugh before by saying a blitzball job is exactly what the redd*t heckin memesters that wear the pig/ moogle, chocobo, frog, etc. head want.
>>741059195Yesn't, there are match’s with really fucking weird arbitration or some teams just playing awful for no apparent reason. Like paraguy and usa recently, but is really hard to pull of a rigged matches on soccer
>>741059341He's right you knowWakka is kinda barren of anything unique that would justify a Blitzball themed jobIt'd immediately become the Viper of ranged DPS, flavorless
>>741059398wakka's function in 10 was high accuracy and tactical play dealing out status ailments. doesn't really work in 14. so it would just be a standard ranged dps class but the weapon happens to be a ball and the animations are reused monk animations and a few ripped from 10
>>741059186Is he tourist though? because he completed a eureka relic.
>>741059452The dev team's also complained about running out of ideas for some weapons like bows, imagine how quickly they'd run out of ideas for a fantasy soccer ball as a weapon-type
>>741059473He wasted a month of his already wasted life and got on discord, WOH.
>>741059186i didnt even know who he was until you brought it upnow lets see those zero images
>>741059186he just like me fr
>>741059398Just mix him with Tidus. Lots of evasive abilities. Attacks that naturally move you around. Cheer
>>741059487the ball will be an official blitzball. the actual weapon will be a large gauntlet like jecht wearsthinking on it, jecht's fighting style in dissidia would be more interesting than wakka's
i feel like shes due for a job change
>>741059697I'd probably rather Tidus make up the backbone of a job and maybe mix Noctis warp-strikes in for some more. Though functionally I think that would be Viper with a hook sword and the ability to cast Haste
>>741050124FFXI isn't dead althoughbeit
>>741059767i think she should be a dancer and wear less clothes
>>741059767Canonically she's a Red Mage drop-out, I would expect her to actually get an artifact armor of her own if not for the "contrarian against Alphinaud" elementI think Mystic Knight would fit her since swordplay is her weak-point according to X'rhun Tia, forcing her to bone up on that
>>741050218>Why do MMOs even have dungeonsIt's an mmoRPG. Which stems from DUNGEONS and Dragons. The concept of an MMORPG is flawed until you can figure out how to get a tabletop session with this many players>>741058762I care about the overarching plot and hope they cleverly find a way to overcome this forced Rejoining
>>741059793It's actually right now specifcally more alive than ever. Asura, Bahamut, Odin and Phoenix are all closed due to too many people. Fenrir is filling really fast now too.
why is there so much discourse around simming in the new ultimate?
>>741059908It sorta misses the point of prog that playing the video game is about being able to execute all mechanics one after the other, and there's a point there about simulators existing to enable people to not play the video game at the end of the day. I do get the argument for why simulators exist and ultimately I don't have any weight in it regardless because I barely touch Savage let alone Ultimates.
>>741059828i thought for sure she'd become a paladin in shadowbringers. would also fit her personality, but her combat specialty is being a walking nuke so we'd be out that in the scions. the other scions can't perform limit breaks by themselves like alisaie can, and she also made her own AND she's invented a few of her own spells, like Vercure III
>Attack ReelsStance that sets three reels on your gauge. Each weaponskill stops a reel. Finisher strength depends on what you spin.>Element ReelsStance that turns weaponskills into casts. Whatever element you roll has a unique lingering effect on the field.>muh you can't have randomness in muh ffxivDon't care.
>>741059856i would be careful with this assertion. while it is undoubtedly true that there are many new players, server transfer services exist in ff11, and the concept of 'megaservers' didn't hit 11 till recently. if everyone hears Asura is full, then everyone wants to be on the next Asura so people will create their own. there's also no gurantee those players will every functionally participate with others in the game, given that you can solo to level cap and do the vast majority of the story quests with trusts
>>741060123I actually want off of asura so bad. Fuck this server. Bahamut is where you want to be.
>>741060113i'd be fine with attack reels if it was a different fourth attack depending on the results, rather than different potency. one requires melee, one requires you to be in front, etc
>>741060123>and the concept of 'megaservers' didn't hit 11 till recentlyThis is bullshit. Asura has been 'the' server for about a decade.
>>741059908it's been normalized to the point where people are starting to question the way ffxiv designs fights. the single biggest point of difficulty in any high-end content is having every single person be consistent enough to see and practice the next mechanic, what's the point of making 'difficult' content if the majority of the players are not even going to respect all aspects of the challenge? either the community has to not treat simming as the norm or the developers need to rethink how they make fights difficult rather than forcing you to repeat the early phases over and over
>>741060180there's always been big servers anon. my wow server back in the day was the biggest pve server. concept of megaservers is that its literally the only place people will play. kinda like balmung is in ffxiv. seen the scramble to get an alt or transfer to it in the last few weeks?
>>741060113This seems like it'd be better suited to an actual Gambler job than somebody that happens to have a slot-machine limit break
Finally got the emote!
>>741060435if someone else rolls a 99 its still a coinflipgrats though anon :)
>>741060435you know you can just buy the emote off the mb
>>741060554but now he can say he won it. also, its gonna appreciate in value a lot once 8.0 hits and people stop running windurst
>>741059908people finally realized the way progging is 'supposed' to be done is a giant waste of time
>>741060435I lost it with a 97
>>741060590I mean the last time an expansion dropped people were powerleveling to that +1 with 24-man queues
>>741060656because they fucked up the exp gain on ew alliance raids. they nerfed the shit out them later and never made that mistake again
>>741060656they'd run jeuno if that were the case, not windurst. you can already almost kill shadow lord as he's changing forms anyway
>>741060701Oh so it was typical expansion launch incompetence, I see. Business as usual then.>>741060760That's true, literally everyone's gonna have max ilvl by like September
>>741060879i have 7 ranperre coins but i don't wanna run sandoria that many times to use them
>>741060879You need to do M9S for a ring if you want max ilvl. There will be plenty people stuck at 789.
>>741061019the relic will be 795, and weapons count as two items in the ilevel calculation
>>741061093Regardless, anyone who doesn't raid will still be wearing a 780 ring instead of 790.
>>741061145indeed. i wonder why we get two rings but not two earrings and two bracelets
>>741061195I might be misremembering but they wanted to get rid of the 2nd ring but kept it since people use it for fashion. I'd like them gone so I don't have to pentameld two of the fucking things. Its why I'm glad they got rid of belts.
Arthasbros... the static is blowing up live on stream...
>>741061195Ps3 limitations. Everquest did actually have 2 ear, wrist, and ring slots.
>>741061287TOTAL STREAMER DEATH
>>741061314the new gearing system seems like an opportune time to prune a ring
>>741061357I doubt anyone who actually plays the game would complain.
>>741060590>also, its gonna appreciate in value a lot once 8.0 hitsCertainly for a while. Don't hold them too long though since its pretty much guaranteed to be a mogtome reward eventually.
>>741061287qrd?
>>741061431would make gearing a nice even 10 pieces of loot rather than 11. i don't really count paladin shields since they are always paired with the swords, and crafter offhands are just stat sticks
>>741061431seems like it's not in the cards as of this post's writing, their example for weeklies gear and "character growth" has two rings yet
>>741061534it takes about 4-5 years. we still don't have endwalker extreme mounts in the mogtome events and we got 5.3's last time5.3 came out 5 years agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jmALV5kDVw
>do story as new tank>gear up>reaper is also geared as a side effectWhile nice for raiding, it does further cut out on things to do, farming ex for the weapon is a large part of the early 2 weeks of release and the wait for savageI fear this pruning will just result in even more unsubs and waiting for content to arrive
>>741061670Supposedly there's going to be some change in design ethos for zones themselves to alleviate this or otherwise address the fact that zones have shit-all to do in them if you're not in a hunt train or treasure map party
>>741050149wtf
>>741061670it will clear out party finder faster, yes. undoubtedly. but they are revamping totems and adding a middle difficulty so maybe it won't be as much an issue
i just want endcold to bring us a real kino villain. the last good one was like elidibussy
>>741050218Make dungeons great again!
>>741061817again?
>>741061783I'm interested in what's to become of totems, the way they were wording it, Enuo EX is the final boss to ever follow that system and Evercold just won't have totem bosses
>>741061809elidibus's entire rise to popularity was in 1 single patch. not sure if halmarut will have the chops for it but i did enjoy that her opening move on us was calling into question our morality
>>741061670they're probably just going to stick like 10 materia slots on everything and disable materia for synced gear
>>741061608The ex mounts follow a very strict schedule, but everything else is more random. I know for a fact that there have been hair/emotes from the previous expansion in the current one multiple times. I made a ton of money hoarding Gyr Abanian Plaits from a ShB mogtome.
>>741050149Scorpion Tank for FFVIII or something else?
>>741061927I guess youd still want to get gear for those then, but not be completely fucked if you dont
>>741061927i'd also like to see a revamp of materia. but to do anything meaningful with that they'd have to alter secondary stats. and secondary stats being boring is what is tamping down the gear treadmill. dunno if they'll go as far as changing them
As long as they dont pull a wow with set bonuses and trinketsI do not trust them with that balancing hell
>>741061868Diablo 1 had great dungeons. So did might and magic and ultima.
>>741062079Speed becoming a real stat might shake things up a bit at least.
>>741059767>6:30am, outside WoL's house, Valentione's Day
>>741062185the death of the 2m meta will do that won't it. it will make the parsefaggots do a bit more math and we'll have a solved meta anyway. be kinda funny if speed does overthrow crit/not-crit anyway
Materia with positive and negative effectsLike one that gives fat crit but also reduces skill speed, might even allow for "pruning" of unwanted stats from gear, like tenacity from a tomestone ring
>>741062326An overthrow is already basically guaranteed from the lack of buff-stacking and personal buffs
Alisae is the new tank jobnew tank uses a gravity gauntlet and is primarily magic damage and point blank spells
>>741062352i'm hoping the new system will have more to it than more math, but more optimization might be nice>>741062384stock up on tenacity materia, as it will empower counterattacks
https://poal.me/xcv4luhttps://poal.me/xcv4luhttps://poal.me/xcv4lu
>>741059816uhhh based
post your FUNNIEST xiv meme
>>741062439>full tenacity crit direct hit counter cannon punch
>>741060246raiding is already absolutely miserable in this game because 99% of it is just repeating the same song and dance over and over praying that you'll even arrive at your intended prog point. like it's just a tab targeting mmo bro it's not that exciting or fun to warrant repeating the same sequence upwards to hundreds or if ultimates possibly more than a thousand times just to clear. the fun is in doing the whole fight not wiping to memes like p9s limit cut or light rampant. the only people who find blind progging fun and wear it as a badge of pride are autistic and unemployed and should not be taken seriously
>>741062326Speed will 100% be the god stat at the start of the expac since that's when crit is at its weakest. Crit will probably still be viable for the 3rd tier at least. It will be funny when MNK is the only job that wants crit > speed for chakra generation when they're currently one of the only jobs that needs speed melds.
>>741059828well mystic knight being a tank would fill a lot of niches, especially be convenient for alisaie, as she's the only scion who hasn't gotten a new combat art at some pointi of course feel that hoary boulder will be a mystic knight and that the hammer tank is a red herring and the rdps is something boring like crossbow
>>741062646t. shitter who cannot do anything without hectors help
>>741062747post your logs
>>741059828She wasn't a drop out iirc, just that X'rhun taught her the basics and let her go
>>741062580
>>741062580This is Thancred.
something occurs to me. we still don't know where all the shades from 5.3 came from. i wonder if we'll run into them in EC
#ESTYNATION/our teen/ is going to save Arthars' static
>>741063134arthars' static is going to explode into chunks of disappointment and fried dog
>>741060409Wakka is a Ranger/Gambler. His theme song is even called Blitzball Gamblers.
>>741061357Two rings is glamour so they won't get rid of the second.
>>741062110that's exactly what they're going to do>I do not trust them with that balancing hellfuck balanceall my homies hate balancewe funchads run this bitch
>>741049748this isn't a general because its a commentary on how fucking miserable the state of the game is because its stale crusty and gross.
>>741061195Because you buy earrings in pairs?
>>741063484many earrings in game are just single pieces anon
>>741061287Timestamp?
>>741063590https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2794878387?t=39h7m42s
>>741063130What if this was Thancred?
>>741063817thancred being a woman would be detrimental to his character. thinking on it, the only scions who could probably swap genders would be g'raha and krile
>>741049748Bro you missed your chance!
I will forever be the only one who stands in defense of the original Toto Rak. I think when they gutted this dungeon layout and made it more generic, they damned the entire game to a slow creeping death. This wasn't a particularly fun dungeon or one that people liked running, but it was the last bastion of exploration and real dungeon crawling that the game had. It wasn't supposed to be a 5 minute run, it was supposed to be a dangerous trek through a dungeonThe new kind of dungeon design, the post-revamp version, might be a boon for the grinders who just want to crank out tomes but for the average casual player who just wants to play expansions and post-patch content and not grind, this sucks ass. There's no discovery, there's no looting, there's no puzzles or alternate routes or optimization, you just run down a hallway. It's boring, even if it's quick I would rather run Toto Rak or the original Brayflox a thousand times over some of the newer dungeons that just walk you into combat arenas. I signed up to play an mmoRPG, not a fucking button mashing hallway combat sim. I wanted to explore and discover and go on a a fucking adventure.Unironically I stuck with this game for way longer than I should have, but when they nerfed Toto Rak I lost my fucking mind and quit. I normally wouldn't care but I am drunk off my ass and also on shrooms so I feel the need to comment.
>>741063916isn't female g'raha basically Alisaiesince they both have the singular character trait of being madly in love with (You)
>>741063916Urianger could easily swap with little difference.
is there a mod for mahjong
>>741064338To mod what exactly?
>>741064529to play for meI ain't learning this chinkshit
>>741063607Don't really care who was in the wrong but this is grim behavior showing from 8 supposed adults
>>741049115>>741056180Reminder FF11 is stil charging for subscription.
>>741064675streamers are mentally catty teenager girls
>>741059767she's due for a removal from the gamealmost as worthless as a character as y'shtolaScion girls are all terrible for whatever reason
>>741065462Arthars is the voice of reason there albeit.
>>741064021they are never fixing dungeons, trusts made sure of that.
>>741065537He was the voice of reason for one minute and it wasn't exactly a high bar to clear. Then he kept pushing the subject and ended up being as annoying as the other guy.
>>741065469wat about krile and tuturu
>>741066181>He was the voice of reason for one minuteYou need to go like 10 minutes earlier on the timestamp. Arthars is the voice of reason and that faggot is just acting like a baby the whole time giving everyone attitude the whole time.
>>741063607Holy shit that healer is an unbelievable faggot, what a piece of shit.
>>741063607>You signed up for 16 hours a day, you knew what you were getting into.>This is not a static to me anymore, it's just a group, I'm just filling in, and what the fuck are you talking about I signed up for 16 hours I never said that>Yes you did, you were even excited about it.>Yeah so?I would explode on that motherfucker.
>>741066398I did go back. You don't need to say more to be in the right.
>>741066705It's not about saying more. You need to see all the shit that faggot says in the lead up to that timestamp for the context of how Arthars responds.
I finally did it...I'm am now a bit more BIGOTED then when I started.
>>741066848Have you learned to SMILE?
>>741064739Didn't this get an unlimited free trial or something?
>>741067074Vanilla game up to level 75, yeah.
>>741049115>FFXIV Shadowbringers: StandaloneShadowbringers is expanded upon and remade in a seperate one-off game with Rebirth/Revelation's gameplay and party system. Playable singleplayer or co-op with up to 4 players. Would you buy it?
raiding in this game is way too autistic and frankly not very fun
>>741067940When the jobs are as brain dead as they are, the only way to increase difficulty is to make every fight an autism dance that instantly wipes the group if a single person makes a mistake.
Come Home White Man
>>741068103They put a literal nog on the trailer. Not a white man's game at all.
>>741068449This is in fact quite the compelling argument, more baffling when most of the devs making the game and the target audience for GW1 and GW2 were White.
>>741065469Got really tired of her during endwalker. Why the fuck were her and her brother so present at the last cutscene i can't remember the last time i gave a fuck about them. I am gonna take a very very long break of playing a new character and cosmic exploration so i don't have to do dawntrail now
>>741064021I really felt this during the last few endwalker dungeons. Literally walking to another square shaped opening to battle some mobs the place with the yellow grass and the people waiting to die from the monster was especially bad quite literally hallway into box room battle into hallway repeat i found myself glad it was over
>>741064021dungeons should have two versions, one for the msq that is really a little maze with secrets and lore that you would like to run at slow pace the first time and a gutted version for roulettes.
>>741063607>Xeno is pretending to be a 9th man in his team because he got banned>Arthas team is crashing the fuck out>MrHappy team is stuck in prog hell because they are inconsistent as fuck and keep wiping to arrows/forsakenKefka is so fucking based
>>741066924I've learned a better appreciation for good voice acting. Which granted there was really only one big offender kek
>>741063607>>741070452>These faggots who have played ff14 for over ten years>Some even played ff11 for ten years before the release of ff14>All of them struggling on thisI thought you fuckers told me Ultimates and I directly quote from posters here 'they're not that hard'.
>>741070567FRU made them rest on their laurels.
>>741050275heyo
>>741054927Ff started as a rpg series to its core. They spent the last 16 years trying to make ff anything but a rpg. They did it to themselves.>but muh kids gotnno attention spanYa because they keep making action slop instead of engaging the players brains. Humans are hardwired for the path of least resistence. When you raise the bar, humans naturaly match it at its lowest point. Same with lowering the bar.
>>741049115Give me photorealism graphics update once PS4 is kill
XIV is the only MMO I've ever played where there exist guilds for literally ever possible sexual fetish in the guild finder.
>FFXIV peak content is a 20 minute battle that takes days to finish due to difficulty that you need to complete with other 7 players and if you or one of those players are having a bad day you need to regroup and if you are a streamer causes drama no less.
>>741070567they are old
>>741071179sounds alright to meI used to play wow hc and mythic when it was added and it was mostly timegated content behind expansion gimmick with 19/24 other retards
>>741071297Not an excuse, there are still fighter pilots in their 40s and early 50s as trainers. These guys are simply not as good as they like to pretend they are.
>>741058473They have the paid vfx mods on that one coomer site no?
Sex money bitches and the stickiest weed
>>741071179honestly the game would be better off without such content. most people play it for the story, only like 0.1% actually do ultimates if even that, it's a complete waste of dev time and funding.
>>741071740Yes and the people that do engage with it just cheat with an arsenal of plugins.
>>741050149looks kawaii
>>741071740dungeons are even bigger dev time waste
>>741070689sorry, switch 2 is the new thing holding the game back
>8.0 releases in january>please wait 4 months for april, for little crumbs of content, then please wait 4 more months for like, september, for more little crumbs of content>by the way here is your gathering botfarm contenti mean, im not sure if i want to participate in this.
>>741071896dungeons offer a ton more value, they are used as a method of story telling, character development, and world building (with exception of ARR dungeons).
>>741072067>ey are used as a method of story tellingwhatever> character development, whatever> world buildingreally?this is fucking mmo, not the book.
>>741072067Might as well make a cutscene then lmao
Any chance they will make an off line version like Dragon Quest X?
>>741072103you wouldn't even know what some places look like without dungeons. kingdom of baron, alexandria, just to name a couple. if you're too dense to appreciate that, xiv isn't for you.
>>741072158At that point, just play CrossCode.
>>741059828>>741059767Alisaie in a belly dancer outfit would be nice
>>741072217I did. I quit around the "water temple" in the jungle. The only time I didn't find the game boring was the Red City part.
>>741071896You dumb retard
>make the story so unbelievably shit it kills the game>double down on raidtranny content and further alienate the main casual playerbase>more people quit>the strategy to get people to come back is to rehash Shadowbringers story (again) and make all jobs play like viper/summonerIt's funny how dumb these devs are
>>741070689Switch 2 limitations, please understand
>>741070567sweaty no life raiders will tell you how an ultimate is not that hard, or possibly even easy but they forget to mention>it took then hundreds of hours spread across weeks or months to clear it>they spent 10s or 100s more hours running simulated versions of mechanics in external applications>they use in game cheats to show them where to stand and when>they have since cleared it multiple times>gear and potency changes have made the fight slightly easier than on release
>>741064021And the 2.0 version is even cut down from 1.0's, it was even bigger there
>>741071740Ultimates are lazy asset flips, thoughbeit They are very cheap to make and mostly just take away the time off a single combat designer for a year or so, as well as the QA team who probably don't have much else to test on the off patches ults release on anyway. Much more dev time gets pooled into abortions like island sanctuary and cosmic exploration
>>741072261
>>741061952It's a similar design but not related to FF8 yet. It's just a pink scorpion tank because that happens to be the color scheme for cosmic exploration.People who unironically think japan made a trans tank are both American and white, and not in a good way.
>>741050149Nice transport
Can someone explain to me why people hate Occult Crescent? I stepped into it recently and I quite enjoy the content since I can actually use my abilities and not have to worry about running out of resources like what happened with Bozja.
>>741057552>TotalBiscuit is coming back for 8.0Necromancer job confirmed??
>>741072746To this day I don't understand what they were smoking while making island sanctuary.
I find it weird how people call singular 8 man boss fights "raids"
>>741072819Then I'll tell you. They saw the factory in Lost Ark (or any other number of MMOs with complex offline resource gathering systems) and said "We should do that, but make it safe so players can't possibly brick themselves, and also don't make the rewards too good so they don't feel forced into it". And so we get a neutered version that's not interesting and isn't worth it.
>>741072886they used to have adds and environmental traps in coils but then people bitched about them wasting prog time so they were excised from the game
>>741072886Ok so that's actually an older tale.The first raid, Binding Coil, was at some point in development a proper 8 man raid where you go through a very difficult dungeon fighting bosses. Then in their wisdom they decided no, that's too much of a time commitment, and split it into 5 floors. This made the trash packs a minor annoyance since you no longer had to get through them quickly as part of the challenge of the raid. So they got rid of those too. And by the end of the second raid series, it was just reduced to arena fights.
>>741072803It’s just running to one fate after the next, it’s pretty fast paced but mind numbing. It’s strange how bozja was fucking prefect and they didn’t just copy it again but more colorful zone.
>>741072912i mean you can make interesting systems with recovery options. there’s nothing interesting about mint picking in an enclosed sterile island and the automation tools don’t even require any interactivity or choices to unlock
>>741067929Unless they rewrite it to where you don't need to do the "road to Shadowbringers"/post-Stormblood quests, it's very hard to justify the story of Shadowbringers standalone.>This world your warped to needs your special powerHas a little set up in ARR and Storm->Shadow leads up to all the characters getting Isekai'd (so to speak) from previous expansions bar one Scion (formerly) and another that is the Bones/Medic of the Scions.>>741067238It's Shadowbringers (complete expansion) up to 80 now.>>74106473911's trial is 2 days. 14's is ARR, Heavensward, Stormblood, Shadowbringers (base + 3 expansions) to level 80 (of 110 subscriber level cap).Unlimited play, however. UNTIL you Sub. Once you subscribe, the free-trial is shut off and you're limited to the free-play subscriber-lapse of 1-2 months like subscribers and FF11 players are.
>>741072964I think it's more due to devs not wanting to make risks.
>>741072886They used to be actual raids that is delving into a location with 7 other people to take down a large threat/ boss at the end of the raid with smaller bosses throughout the raid but you had to traverse to get there ala Coils of Bahamut, even Alexander raids were still raids that you had 'raid' the location.Then the dev team got lazy, listened to the sweats who only wanted the single instance boss fights and then doubled down on that but still kept calling it a 'raid'.
>>741072564Ultimates only take forever to prog because 14 players have brainworms and if their first clear is anything less than a purple parse they will be forced to kill themselves so they greed damage and fuck up mechanics and even if they're not fucking an 8/8 bodycheck they're eating a Damage Down and that won't do so they force everyone back to start even though the other 7 did everything right. Same exact shit as savage, but the fights last twice as long so there's twice as much fuckery.
>>741057552But are they going to stay, is the question. Evercold may be a "oh shit, Dawnfail fucked up!" panic expansion, but if it doesn't properly FIX what caused people to bail, they're going to bail.>LOL WUK IS WHAT CAUSED PEOPLE TO--Be serious.
>>741073085Sounds like it is pretty chilled compared to the Eureka and Bozja. Only thing is I wish I had been around when OC got released to do Forked Tower, but now I don't think I can since the content isn't fresh anymore and I have to join a Discord apparently to do it.
>>741073120You can but they choose not to.Look, 1.0 spooked SE like nothing else had before. XIV is their safe space now. They are terrified to take risks and blow it, but because of that, they have blown it.
>>741073126>11's trial is 2 daysIt was 2 weeks, but they revised it so now it's unlimited time but you're capped at level 75.
>>741073230Retard
>>741073085I seem to remember bozja just being running from one fate to another too
>>741072803you don’t even use most of your abilities since you’re supposed to swap off phantom jobs after you get all the skills. most of the time i’m just playing some cucked version of the ph, assuming the ph even has anything interesting outside of forked tower. this shit where you’re constantly swapping off ph to level the next shitty one is probably one of the worst-thought out part of oc, they should have let you mix and matched skills across phsaside from that, the job balance is somehow even more fucked now, because they gave you tank essence in bozja for nontanks but forgot to do it for oc. so every motherfucker is running as a tank dealing 0 dps because the raidwides will actually just chip down a dps in many ces or they just die to mechs where a tank would live. not to mention how fucking boring it is to play as a tankbecause they completely fucked up the implementation of forked tower blood, there is virtually nothing to break up the monotony of running from fate to fate, i grew bored of the same goddamn snake, mudman, stone tablet, lion, turtle etc. very quickly. bozja at least had duels and cll to break up the monotony and you had to go outside to do dr sometimes. at most you go clean up the map of chests which i wouldn’t exactly call compelling gameplay
>>741064021I expect to get flak for this because XIV players are all cargo cultists, but old Toto Rak and new Toto Rak are completely identical. There is no difference.Because old Toto Rak *looks* more like a traditional PnP/EQ dungeon, you think it *was* more like a traditional PnP/EQ dungeon, but it wasn't.It was always a combat hallway. Those extra turns never had anything in them that made it like the kind of Dungeon that 2026 MMO players think ever existed outside of Everquest or Dungeons & Dragons Online.They were rooms with one of two things in them: Nothing, or a button you were required to press to open a door. There was no exploration, you were not exploring anything, you weren't making choices.There's nothing wrong with XIV acknowledging that it doesn't have Dungeons, because it never had Dungeons, it only ever had Combat Hallways, and changing a Combat Hallway to slightly better fit its intended format.
>>741073579>they completely fucked up the implementation of forked tower bloodWhat happened? I only came back a month ago so I missed the initial rush of the content.
>>741073680not really, you had to double back after collecting one of the photocells because they put one in each branching path
Can you sex her yet?
>>741073727hoo boy, they fucked so badly that yoshida had to apologize onstream and implement hotfixes earlier than the usual schedule which they normally never doi have to actually work now fuck my life but if i come back after i’m done and nobody has told you what happened, i’ll post about it
>>741073786>yetBeen fucking her and her mother on weekly basis. You just need the right mods.
Game died when ShB released
>>741073880I pray you have a good time at work, anon.
>>741073484I cleared all 5 ultimates that came out before I quit the game during 7.1. Party Synergy in TOP is the only mechanic that is any kind of special. Ultimates involve more movement so I'll even give you them being harder on casters. The only reason they take "The world's best players" a week to world first is because they have to actually solve all the puzzles. Once they get spoiled you've got no excuse.
How do you get back into this game? I still pay for it, but I can't bring myself to login for more than a few minutes every month or so, so my house doesn't get taken by yoship.
Yo... streamers? This is it dood
>>741072803>I stepped into it recentlythat's the problem, you just entered in and that thing didn't get a real update in a year.
>>741074119By yourself it is extremely hard. You (or at least I) basically need a friend you want to play it with.
YOOOOOOOOOO STREAMERSARTHARS IS CRASHING OUT
ARTBOOK DUMPY
>>741073126>Unlimited play, however. UNTIL you Sub. Once you subscribe, the free-trial is shut off and you're limited to the free-play subscriber-lapse of 1-2 months like subscribers and FF11 players are.Their entire account system for both 11 and 14 is a fucking nightmare. I have no idea who ever thought that was a good idea.
>>741067238>ff11 getting an actual free trialholy fuck
Man, these threads are always kind of depressingyears ago I could always count on that anon with the pink haired lala that had a fat ass and fat titties to post. Nowadays it's just the same two or three completely vanilla lalas that all have the exact same 'teehee I'm a lalafell' cookie cutter theme.I blew so many loads to the pink one, too.
>>741075004how many are going to try the game? is there arduous ARR equivalent to go through?
I'm currently doing 6.0 but can't decide between DRK, GNB or PLD.Played WAR in the past and it's kino but I wanted to change a bit for 8.0.
>>741075589>is there arduous ARR equivalent to go through?Kinda, yeah. Basically because of various changes over the past 24 years, killing enough mobs to hit level cap is the tutorial and also you won't really be fighting them yourself you will be directing your army of NPCs to do it for you. Then you hit level cap and actually start playing the game, including grinding for exp in parties, which is odd to most peple.
>>741072886They really should have the normal versions be real raid dungeons, while the savage version is just the boss. There's nothing stopping them besides laziness.
Picto is the worst class they have ever added to the game. As if caster classes weren't gay and lame enough they needed to make them 10x lamer and gayer.
>>741075963Yeah, that would even fit with how Alliance Raid Chaotic turned out to be 1 fight
Will MrHappy clear? Stay tuned to find out!
When the fuck are we getting more glamour plates? ffs we have 32 jobs soon to be 33 and still only 20 plates
>>741076185Half or more the playerbase is literally gay so it was tailormade for them.I'm not even being sarcastic, my fagget friend who played RDM loved PCT. It's not for me, it's for him.Here's hoping the new tank job is kino.
>>741075275The lalas are American and wouldn't be up this earlyt. One of the teehee lalas
>>741076185It's a step down from BLM for sure. At least BLM hits hard after casting but Picto you have to hardcast to... unlock your other abilities? The fuck were they thinking.
>>741072431not even switch 2, xbox series S(hit)
>>741076452It's not so bad since glamour is no longer tied to job. So instead of needing a plate for each job you just have 20 outfits you can assign however you want and then glam over your weapons manually.
>>741075963>There's nothing stopping them besides laziness.Well, there's also the fact that "normal raids" aren't intentionally designed content in the first place. They make the original savages and then just gimp them because they're purely an obligation.
Will the new xpac come with a Dawntroon skip?
>>741076907i think it will start you at dawntroon, surely not right?
Whys it Sunday.
>>741073786>>741073960I sex her daily.
>>741077194My WoL has other girls to fuck too it can't just keep fucking Alisae and Ameliance every day. There's Ryne, Gaia, Sphene, Yshtola, Khloe, it goes on. Not to mention that for me personally I also fap to other things and not just xiv.So yeah I get to her and her mom about once a week.
>>741072790>>741050149Those spider mechs are from FF Type-0.
>>741076753I need a plate for each job. My Samurai will never share a glamour with my Monk.
arthars has a good chance of getting banned again if square enix saw how much he was airing out his static drama and flaming his former party member on stream. grab the vods while you still can and get ready for the inevitable day when him and baldie get shot in the backs of their heads for good
who cares dude
>>741077530Only thing worse than faggots that watch streamers are faggots that hate watch to try to catch them doing something.
>>741077013cabeza de cebolla
>>741077612who says im hatewatching
>>741077638!
>>741077530not a chance. he never said anything ban worthy. xenopedo was outright calling for all transwomen to be murdered because sena did a bad job in a story he skipped. you can't compare that to arthars
>>741073727forked tower's entry reqs were some unholy abomination of ba's entry reqs. you had to get everyone into the same instance just like ba, but eureka had 144 player instances and ba was 56 man. meanwhile oc has a laughably tiny 72 player instance limit and forked tower is 48 man. people spent 30mins to hours just to get all 48 people into the same instance. also randos could snipe spots just like in ba. additionally unlike delubrum or cll, forked tower had multiple body checks where one person can wipe the entire party, so randos who sniped spots usually fucked your run from the get go. also you have to pay currency per entry. the engagement rate for the raid was absolutely atrocious, barely anyone did it and people flooded the official forums and socials with complaintsafter that, they hotfixed oc so that you can enter it with a premade 48man alliance and doing it also locked forked tower entry to your alliance for a period of time for that instance. so actually entering ft now isn't a complete clownfest, but the disastrous launch coupled with the perception of it being high-end content because of the raidwiping bodychecks means that the content is restricted to premade discord runs to this day and random bumfucks farming fates will never do it
>>741078110also the rewards suck major ass. the mount looks like total dogshit
>>741057552>ZeplaI often think about how many times she farts on stream and we just don't know.
>>741049748the schizophrenic trannies took over the /vg/eneral. /v/ is the last bastion
>>741078037>calling for all transwomen to be murderedI don't watch any of this shit so entirely honest question: Did he really?
>>741072818Holy shit my sides
>>741077319Which tells me you're not committed and that's why Alisaie chose me.
>>741078208
>>741078208he called her a retarded bitch so it's close enough. if he wasn't on twitch he would have said it
>>741078273Dear lord.
>>741078273wait this dress is so cute
If you could add one race and job from another Final Fantasy game what would it be? Counting spin-offs like tactics Honestly I would like to see a jugler from Tactics as a debuff/DoT focused job and Ivalice Moogles would be a neat race
>>741076185I still can't get used to it even after playing with it for a while. It always feels like I'm doing something wrong.
>>741078338>retarded bitch>close enoughWell... Okay then.
>>741078208no he didn't, as a matter of fact dude is a tranny loving democrathe just started picking fights to generate engagement and got bit in the ass for ithe probably lost a lot of monkey for not being able to stream himself playinggood riddance, deserved
>>741078405>debuff/DoT focused jobLiterally never ever
>>741049115Who cares? You niggers just use 3rd party cheats anyway. None of you actually play the game.
>>741078208he openly praised hitler on stream while streaming nude mods and dps meters of randos and admitted he only ruined desolance's life for being a black man who dared to talk back to a white man
>People still give a shit about Baldesion Arsenal tier contentThat shit got old after BA was said and done. Looking back it really wasn't fun being in a raid group with 48 people where others could wipe the entire party, perma kill you for the run because of their mistake and de-level you. The fact they made 2 more raids similar to it blows my mind. Its why they abandoned those new 24 mans that were way harder. Managing more than 8 retards in a group is way too stressful and all the mechanics have a chance of wiping the whole raid if 1 retard fucks up.
>>741078189>the schizophrenic trannies took over the /vg/eneral. /v/ is the last bastionThis is such a brutal self-own for XIV players lmao...
>>741078483Funny thing is half of this is actually true
>>741078405i want gria but we already have the inferior au ra
>>741078483All other stuff aside, don't streamers usually have overlays and ACT/dps meters and stuff on screen?
>>741078273I want to smash those together
>>741078506Eureka and Bojza were the only times I truly felt this game was an MMO and worthy to be called an MMO. I was so pissed off they fucked up Occult Crescent it was the one piece of content that I was excited for beyond the MSQ and they ruined it.
>>741078769Based Zepla hagmaxer.
>>741071897>>741072431b-but switch 2 has better cpu than the ps4 and ssd, the graphics can improve a bit more....
>>741078483Ngl him modding himself as a space marine when he got nuked was funny as fuck like why would he do one of the few things that gets you nuked
>>741078969Goddamn she's hot.
>>741049115So, before Dawntrail, I was thinking that if they're going to do that they'd need to seriously rework the graphics, and the combat, and basically nearly the entire "formula" of the game... and they actually seem to be doing exactly that so I guess we are getting another 10 years of game.
>>741078752a lot of them used to before it became easy to hide them from recording software. nowadays showing them on stream is just ugly as fuck
>>741078506After running BA a few times a last week I can say FT just isn’t that fun and way to restricting for what it is. Still don’t get why it just doesn’t have the BA raise system if you only get three lives already and three hit rule
>>741076482I mean I'm an amerifat and these are my regular awake hours, the only reason I'm not posting my lala and ruining your day is because I'm at work away from my PC.
>>741064021there was literally no practical reason to even go off the beaten pathstop larping
>>741078969God I wish I was that chair.
>>741079250Yes there was, chests with gear. You didn't play the game.
>>741078752they used to until the great plogon disaster of dsr where they made an example out of a few streamers by banning them for having mods onscreentime passed like this until around... i want to say summer of last year when square sent a legal notice to the developer of the infamous plogon mare synchronous and he shut it all down. there was a huge back and forth on their socials about mod culture and a week later, yoshida personally posted on lodestone talking about his stance on mods which you can read here:https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/9e5517bca992ff35133f519db15eb456d2183251after this, people started becoming more loose with mods again, encouraged by streamers like xenosys vex who openly streamed with many visual mods on and sometimes gameplay mods like pixel perfect, ostensibly to see how far he could push the limit
>If we don't reach Phase 4 consistently by the 6 hour mark, I'm done.>I don't have an 11 hour day in me if we aren't reaching Phase 4.Happy bros.... it's not looking good.... short Sunday stream inc
>>741079014I don't think they actually care about open use of mods unless its egregious shit like futa or sex animations
>>741079361Why do people submit themselves to stuff like this?
Imagine choosing, as an adult with free will in the year 2026, to raid in FFXIV. Who the FUCK are these people?
>>741078969
>>741078401I almost bought it but I realized there's not much reasons I would wear it, I don't go out nearly as much as I used to.The shirts they put out continually siren call me but by the time I decide to get them they are usually sold out, saves me money but I wish I had grabbed some of the ones I missed.
>>741079234Lol same
>ultimate trannies whine and complain they never have anything to do >everyone progging Kefka just wants it to be over already KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>741079447that's his job
>>741063132I was under the impression that they came from loads of different worlds
>>741070185the issue with that is the entire point of roulettes originally was to make it so that new players had a short queue. If no one is queueing for the MSQ version of your dungeon because they don't get their tomes, no one is going to run it.
>>741079570And yet, they're the vocal minority that's been successfully killing MMO's playerbases for the past 15 by dividing them endlessly, when are MMO devs going to wake up?
>>741079642They were shades of all the WoLs who perished in the Flood of Light
>>741078808I never did Eureka but I enjoyed Bozja. What's wrong with the new one?
>>741079731trusts exist
>>741058762Surely they will subvert the "oh it's just yet another rejoining" plot somehow. Shadowbringers came out on July 2, 2019. It will be more than seven years on essentially the same dramatic tension. They must switch it up!
>>741079461Extremes/Unreals are fun. In party finder with randoms you can clear in a day or two. Not a big commitment. The savage shit is too autistic for me, I did one in party finder and will never do it again.
Funny how good players don't want ffxiv streamers in their groups.
>>741079361today is also likely the last chance for yama and baldo's group to clear because nobody in the group expected it would take this long lmao
>>741079286Nah, even in ARR where it would have matter the most (and it barely did then) most people were skipping.
Fuck, i don't want Ultimate. I never wanted to play Ultimate, i will never find 7 another players, that are not shitters, with my (or anyone else's) timezone, who will go and prog for weeks/months, and will not leave. To complete 1 big battle with no rewardsI want Savage, Extremes, untreals too. I want more Savages, not 4 battles but 5-6-7, not 8-9 months between Savages, but every patch new ones, AND i want gear reward, not glamour, i want players to get gear and stats, and get more strong, to complete more fightsAND at least 2-3 extremes per patch. 2 and maybe 1 unreal, so people would gather, complete fights and play themand i want to play battles more than 1 time per week, like extreme ones. not like savage - 1 time per week, and you cannot even play with proggers - because you will ruin theyr reward.
>>741079570Kek when you put it like that, it is pretty funny.
>>741079570Both these sentiments are correct.There is nothing to do and because there is nothing to do proving you're good at doing it isn't fun.Congrats on almost understanding XIV's core design problem.
>>741079867that shit is so whackwhy even make the game an MMO?
>>741080073won't happen bro. the devs keep listening to the vocal minority of ecelebs and streamers that demand ever more difficult content, then cry when 1. it takes too long to beat and 2. most players are too bad at it
>>741079838There's no downtime at all between engagements which in theory sounds good but it doesn't give you time to run over to the 'fate' before people are already one shotting it and then onto the next, and then the next and then the next and then the next and you might not be able to get a hit in any of the engagements at all for hours on end which means you're not making progress because people are simply one shotting them.You're doing it all to be funnelled into the 'raid' Fork Tower which doesn't have a normal mode and Savage mode, there is simply one mode and that is Savage. Which makes it fairly punishing for what is meant to be a casual piece of content.
>>741080165Because anxiety or something, doesn't matter that finding players for dungeons was never a problem because of roulettes.
XIV's core design problem is that killing monsters in game just isn't fun, and it's as simple as that. It's the reason why they can't put any grinds that make people want to login more than once a patch, and the same reason why WoW, despite being objectively trannyslop now, still has millions of players, because killing fucking monsters in game feels fun.
>>741080165they are there presumably to make the content possible when the game is dead, but as much as people like to meme about luckybancho, the game isn't anywhere near the level of something actually dead, like ffxi. so i don't know why they started the trusts project now instead of later in the game's lifespan
>>741080359If anything I would say the Trust systems helps make the game more bland and therefore less appealing and hastens it's own death spiral.
>merc party to help the leader practice 2nd half of m12s paying a mil for 30 min of practice>I enjoy the fight a lot so I join mostly for fun, the gil is just a bonus on top>other "mercs" keep fucking and we can't even clear the first halfeverything burns...
They added Trusts because 30 minute DD queues made people quit playing.
>>741080604>keep fuckingmeant fucking up whops
>>741079867Trusts take for fucking ever because the NPCs don't have a CC rotation and can't survive a basic W2W.
>>741080696yes but this doesn't matter if you are doing a one-and-done first time exploration run for the story as was stated by the other anon (which i am not saying is a good idea btw)
>>741080604merc parties are cancer
>>741080254you forgot>3. most of them cheat anyways
>>741080765They shouldn't be. But sometimes you wonder what the fuck are people thinking trying to sell their run when they can't fucking play.
>>741079379It’s more like don’t show it with official FFXIV stuff but thing is Travis retard was invited at the media tour at one point so he should be even more careful
>>741080554The biggest crime was ruining story with characters appearing out of nowhere.
>>741061945>I made a ton of money hoarding Gyr Abanian Plaits from a ShB mogtomeO teach me your secrets, rhabbi. I am but a humble goyim.
>>741080840they are all cancer. no exceptions.having to pay people to play the game with you is cancer>>741080835it's a never ending cycle. they cheat, so devs make the next raid harder, so the players cheat even more. modern xiv raiding is closer than ever to wow's disgusting overlay vomit excuse for gameplay
>>741079753Raidfags are and have been a cancer in mmos I still remember wild star had this super long and complicated way to unlock raiding and no one ever did it
>>741080284They finally fixed it so fates don’t die in like 10 seconds when it’s a full instant anymore
>>741081054there is a collective amnesia about wildstar, and how actively pursuing "hardcore raiders" killed the gameraidtrannies don't pay the company's billsI wish they'd finally realize that
>>741080939Oh you're autistic. I thought you meant being cancer as in people fucking up.
Every second you are not in XIV's 8/10 instanced PvE group content you are being exposed to some form of XIV's 2/10 everything-else content.Whether that is some dogshit "Kill 18 octopi that spawn 3 at a time" FATE, some embarrassing "walk to this purple circle and kill one (1) dog", looking through the game's retarded mess of menus for the one option you want, or are crafting some worthless garbage to worthless gil so you can buy literally nothing, you are experiencing some piece of 2/10, amateur hour content.And that's why they added Trusts. Because now you can have a slightly marred, 7/10 instanced PvE content experience without a queue, and not be forced to interact with some aspect of the game that will make you wonder why you're paying money for this shit.
>>741081216sybau loser
>>741070452Is it a perma? If it was 2 weeks or 20 days he should’ve been back by now. I can see that once he clears it, he’ll reveal it in a video.
>>741062110>>741063421>make a game where you can be any job on one character>give yourself total freedom to make the hardest fights be super cool and original, since they technically only need to be clearable with one team comp>you can make a raid tier require job swaps midway>Japanese autism kicks in>"Our customers need to be able to clear everything on their favorite job. Design everything as bland and as a safe as possible around that."
>>741080604It always happens this late into the raid tier. Even when echo becomes a thing the parties won't suddenly have an easier time clearing.
I honestly forgot about the Ultimate. After getting the goods from Auxesia, I resumed Chocobo racing stuff. Was able to beat Challenge 12 so I have Cure 3 for inherited skills. Basically trying to figure out how to get the inbreeding working to get perfect parental stats.
>>741081274>Our customers need to be able to clear everything on their favorite jobThere is literally nothing wrong with this. Making content that people /cannot/ clear with the jobs they are paying real money for is the mark of explicitly poor game design.
>>741081274I just hope they will ignore people who cry that they can't clear with their favourite job after the gear changes.
I can't make up my mind between this or the fall guys hoody which is the most atrocious piece of gear they have ever put in the game.
>>741081274the easy fix to this is stop making the content so hard. make "savage" no more difficult than extremes>noooo NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WE RAIDERS MAKE UP 15% OF THE TOTAL POPULATION AAAAAAAAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE>YOU HAVE TO MAKE THEM EVEN MORE DIFFICULT!!!! NOT EASIERoh no... anyway..
>>741081428Which is why we now have every job playing the same because when one job does 5% more dps than the other it's the end of the world.
>>741081537>savage>hardThere are shitloads of savage at extreme level.
>>741081179Yea that’s when when a new mmo comes out and it goes on how hardcore it plans to be it I instantly write it off. Like in mmos like majority of you player base are casuals then folks who do somewhat hard stuff. Majority of people don’t touch savage/ ultimate
>>741081578then why is the clear rate of savage so much lower?
>>741049115FFXIV is a great game, deal with it. If it goes another 10 years I'll pay another 10 years of subs.>>741049748>XIV generalsFFXIV general is not an FFXIV thread. You click the thread, right now, and 100% of it is ERP. Talking about what vibrators they're currently stuffing up their Lalafel and mi'qote cunts. The last in-game meet had a total of four people show up, all hrothgar men. FFXIV general has as much to do with FFXIV as the Katawa Shoujo general had to do with Katawa Shoujo. Thus, expect new FF14 threads here with content drops. Deal with it, faggot. This thread killed a twitter thread.
>>741081546The issue with jobs lacking identity is not tied to the ability for them to clear content. Everything we've seen from Evolved so far seems to be an attempt at trying to foment job identity without sacrificing core gameplay. However making content unclearable for a SCH or a WAR is a genuinely retarded suggestion by all metrics.
>>741081274That’s a good thing tho? You shouldn’t be forced to play a job you dislike in a video game anon
>>741081641Basically they made everything into WoW to chase WoW numbers and now that isn't as popular anymore, they're going back to an FF11 model.
>>741081624because of people who write off savage as too hard without even trying
>>741081578With Dawntrail they have ramped up the difficulty a lot. Less reaction time, more information needed to resolve mechanics. It has gotten so bad that the community has created a lot of gatekeeping tools to keep new players out. Not saying it is bad or good, but the developers very much cater to an elitist group and seemingly care little for casual players. The fact that every new hire at CS3 has to have extensive savage experience should tell you why this is the current situation.
>>741052414>the beta release on July for the Switch 2?The beta is on August.
>>741081274>Japanese autism kicks inThis has been Square's downfall for the last 20 years>>741081663You can CHOOSE ANY JOB YOU WANT AND FIND ANY PARTY YOU WANT
>>741081537Savage already isn't anymore difficult than Extremes.It's two trivial bosses, one modest challenge, and one difficult challenge.Every single raid tier since the game's launch has been this exact formula.You're complaining about one fight every 8 months being moderately more difficult than an Extreme.
>>741081713They also made shit like the square charts where it tells you where to stand based on split-second timing because there isn't enough reaction time to know which red square is going to proc first unless you're following a clock instead of the cues on the ground. Which defeats the purpose of the cues entirely.
>>741081641Man evolved dragoon looks so good
>>741081692>>741081792>diaper wearing raid losers entered the chat*yawn*what is the % of players that raid? 25% worldwide? and how many of those are alt accounts?
>>741081641>However making content unclearable for a SCH or a WAR is a genuinely retarded suggestion by all metrics.Even back in SB that was never a thing and every job could clear all content and it was time when you had autists locking out specific jobs from pf as they were worse
>>741081746>you can choose any job you want>except the ones that arbitrarily can't clear
>>741081684Don’t think ffxiv copied anything from wow after like ARR/HW
>>741081874skip soar or disband
>>741081891then... pick a different job?
>>741081274I doubt this will happen any more, at least not how we are used to it. In HW, when all the savage speedkill autists got their panties in a twist, it was a certain comp who excelled mechanically because their Job buffs really catered to each other. Most, if not all of those buffs were very flavourful and you could look at a Job and go "Yeah, makes sense that X can do Y". This is apparently absolute poison for the current design team, since all the Evolved Jobs we have seen are 100% just personal buffs, and at best you get a defensive buff. I am genuinely curious how they will do AST and DNC, because neither seem to have any design space left in the Evolved formula.
>>741081874NTA but it was completely ass that you needed war as a pld and dragoon with bard or you just did like 15% less damage
>>741081428It's a rule they'd break only for the hardest fights. Or just for some joke / optional content. Instead they neuter literally every single fight in the game...
>>741081792>Savage already isn't anymore difficult than Extremes.Then why do they have different names?
>>741081824Which mechanic are you referencing? The CoDCAR claps?
>>741081976I bet AST is absolutely fucked, they've already said WHM is the only class that could buff other classes. So what will AST do? Play solitaire in the corner.
>>741081936You are genuinely retarded
>>741049748I see what you did, even if nobody else did.
Damn the XI raids are so boring
i wonder why people are disparaged for being one tricks in many other online multiplayer games but being a one trick in ffxiv is celebratedlike there is no culture in ffxiv where being proficient at both pure healers, or all tanks, and being able to flex to any one job within your role (melee, caster, tank etc) is considered something to aspire towards
>>741081863You said "make 'savage' no more difficult than extremes" and savage raids already aren't more difficult than extremes.In other words your solution to XIV's problems is to continue doing exactly what they are doing at this moment.I'll just tell you what you're mad about and what the solution actually is.You're mad SE doesn't make good content outside of Raiding.And the solution to that problem is for SE to make good content outside of Raiding.
>>741082032yeah
>>741082217i'm not reading allat but i'm sorry your personality is centred around mmo radiing
>>741082146XI was a horrible, horrible choice for an XIV 24man raid. XI is 95% overworld content and 5% really static, stats heavy boss fights. Of course the XIV team focusses on the latter because they have no idea how to make anything interesting that isn't a boss at this point.
>>741082124The game literally forces you to have a couple of jobs lmao. This is a skill issue, your skill issue.
>>741081274>>"Our customers need to be able to clear everything on their favorite job.is it actually true that some jobs couldn't clear a few fights or is it just hyperbole?
>>741082159It turns out autistic people flocked to XIV specifically because it didn't do the jack-of-all-trades thing most MMOs did.Which is funny because those autists also don't say shit about the game making them play different jobs lmao
>>741082217>You're mad SE doesn't make good content outside of Raiding.The raiding isn't very good in XIV. >prog timeEveryone is miserable and frustrated by constant setbacks, dying 5 minutes into a fight because one guy fucked a pixel perfect mechanic up is no fun.>reclearsEveryone is miserable and bored by the incredible repetitiveness of the content, frustrations are mounting when you lose your rolls.The only time I see people genuinely praising the raids is when they got their clear and post on Xitter about it.
>>741082393No. More autistic hyperbole hyper-focusing on fucking high-level PARTY CONTENT
>>741082393I think some party compositions struggled with some fights, not specific jobs.
>>741082451>The only time I see people genuinely praising the raids is when they got their clear and post on Xitter about it.more like: when they got an orange number in their fflogs and post about that in their discord, getting 5 trans flags and 4 let's go emojis as reaction
>>741068480I've been playing 2, it's really woke with every other character getting gay married, teaming up with the bad guys and ripping up treaties because it hurt the bad guys feelings. Just weird shit.
>>741082282boss fights are touchstones in memory is why
>>741082393There was one very optimised comp that stuck around from mid till the end of HW that was just mathematically leagues ahead of every other comp because the specific job buffs worked very will with each other. This was boring to the savage speed-kill community and they complained a lot about it. Going even further back, some Jobs had worse stat blocks. For example DRG noticably took more damage from magical AoE attacks because their M.Def was the lowest of all the Jobs, meaning after an AoE heal the healer often had to throw in a Cute 1 on them, which also upset the raiders because god forbid you can't get back to spamming stone. That is the level of 'Job Imbalance' XIV had to endure. Truth to be told 7.0 PCT was probably the worst balancing we ever had in the game when it comes to dps numbers.
>>741082714This is why the reception to GW3 is so muted compared to how hype people were for the reveal of GW2, because of how much of a weird real world political ideological shithole it became and people know GW3 will be that and much more.
>>741082393No you can clear all content with any job with like small percentage of difference
How the fuck do you even find a FC these days?
The raids in XI should have featured universal gear, where a helmet, for example, transforms your head into a Mithra’s, even if it doesn’t have facial animations.Because, apart from a couple of exceptions, the gear in XI looks rather dull; I’ll probably only return to the first raid when Evercold is released to level up other jobs, just as I did with the first raid in Endwalker.
>>741082823thanks now I understand why the game was hardcore homogenizedmmo players are fucking retarded, but ffxiv players have weapons-grade subnormality
>>741082920play a game that is not ffxiv but has a lot of people who also play ffxiv for some reason. make connections there and then ask to join their fc on ffxiv
>>741083086you'd be astonished. ffxiv players are probably the best at their game of the 3 big mmos.the average pug in the other two are far worse
The biggest takeaway from people making gameplay suggestions in this thread is that you all just want to play GW2.You're sick of devs wasting time on autistic 1% clear rate Ultimates, you're sick of static and VoiP requiring Savage raiding, you want more of and more modestly difficult content, meaningful overworld gameplay, some actual design to be put into minigames, quests, FATEs, etc., and you're sick of every class being identical build-and-spend 2-minute bar cyclers.You guys are literally just saying "XIV would be better if SE made GW2."
>NooOOOOO!!!! STOP SUPPORTING YOUR GAME!!!really?
>>741083207I've heard a lot about GW2 being woke though, and I'm not willing to support that.
>>741083086Raiders in XIV are legit elitist to no end. I remember this video of some girl trying to get people into XIV raiding "Ah everyone is so friendly. Please give it a try! It is so much fun!" and then they came to the fflogs part and she tried so hard to pack "If you dont parse purple on extremes and curate you fflogs profile you won't be invited into groups" into nicer words, but even she had to indirectly admit at that point that "This might be a little barrier to entry".
>>741083207i like the trinity and the setting is a bit too low fantasy for me
>>741075275
>>741083223/v/ threads about FFXIV are the only time i see anybody violently opposed to the idea of just fucking off from the game for a while
>>741082920check the lodestone community finder
>>741081627>The last in-game meet had a total of four people show up, all hrothgar men.
>>741083295This, it's why I quit FF14 during Dawntrail because of how ridiculous it got with the bullshit woke politics in and out of the game. I'm not about to jump into another MMO that is fully on board with Woke and actively thinks the fact I exist is a problem.
>>741075275they are all gone
>>741083207GW2 looks like shit. buttons and job design look like shit. world looks like shiteverything about the game looks like total absolute dogshit. no idea how it plays because everything else about it is repulsive
>>741083440ok bye
The last Ultimate got way less hype and coverage than usual. Is this raid meme finally dying?
>>741082920Just join one of the “ normal” fcs in /fxivg/
>>741083610You can't say "bye" to someone you suggested playing GW2 to, they never played it.
>>741083207Only fucking retards you mean, I don’t want to play gw2 at all
>>741083789MMOs in general apparently hate him because his political alignment is revolting to normies so nothing much to say but "bye" since he's not playing anything
>>741083610>Begs me to play his game>No and here's the reason why>Ok byeSo now that I've said I won't be playing it, you'll stop shilling it here, right?
>>741061608>Bozja>Puppet's Bunker>SoS>Dwarf beast tribeWe had it so good.
>>741083876who's begging you to play the game anon? is this shill in the room with us?
>>741083207But I've played GW2 and it has its own problems.I want FFXIV to be good, not GW2.
>>741083463huh didn't have this one saved thanks anon, gonna enjoy it
>>741084071We're talking about GW2 you deranged lalapedotranny, pay attention or don't reply. (Although most people aren't playing XIV now either because it's not fun and has no grinds, but that's the general topic of every XIV thread).
>>741084284Don't bother replying to him, he's a weirdo who larps as his character.
>>741084071who asked????
Wife
>>741084284Yes we do have a large contingent of posters who announce they're not playing and get mad when the thread isn't hanging on their every word
>>741084284But I don't want to play GW2, you're the one that has to convince me that I want to play GW2.
>>741084447>deranged lalapedotrannyWife.
>>741083207XIV gets a lot of things right. It is just that it fucks up the endgame content by exclusively catering to raiders and openly bragging how they keep making things harder. Yoshida mentioning how bad the Savage participation numbers are (not to mention the utter fail of FT)) gives me hope that he is scared enough to lose more money and subsequently telling the raid troons in his team to shapen up and do easier shit.
>>741078969>>741079478
>>741084660>XIV gets a lot of things right.>*playerbase craters as soon as the MSQ shits the bed*Makes perfect sense sis.
Tranny general still up? TJ must be lurking about
>>741082130okay I'm not gonna lie that was entirely unintentional and I think that's funny as fuck
>>741084745anon you fool ben franklin was an actual granny shagger
Retvrn to tradition.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSKNntvdRJk
FFXIV: Combat Devolved
>>741049115mmo's were lightning in a bottle and their popularity was in no small part due to the relative infancy of easily accessible internet. also ff14 is a tranny game
>m12s>dream>tower mechanics>wind tower person randomly falling from the sky to their deathsIt's a staple at this point but I still laugh every time.
>>741085069Reminds me of tanks falling to their deaths after getting thrown by the towers in P10S
>>741084284so you are the shill then?
LAST FOR SEX WITH ZENOS
>>741085329cuntboy zenos...
>>741085329>sex with zenosthe lala/middie experience for non lalas
stormblood is such fucking shore to do, holy shit
>>741086096WRONG
>>741063415Just make the second ring slot a glamour only slot like the facewear slot
>>741079867Trusts are the sole reason why shit like Totorak got revamped and the dungeon design is now completely set in stone, it's also why the sole needed interaction you now have with enemies is doing damage to them, you basically never need to interrupt, root or slow enemies.
today's affirmations:fuck the faux niceties. don't bother sitting up straight, hydrating or doing self care. make progress towards your goals. even a single step will make you feel better
>>741063607welp, this trigger my lost ark ptsd, thank fucking god that shit is optional, I fucking hate raid trannys they fucking kill everything they touch, go to play fucking LoL or something equally mentally ill
>>741086497I already didn't need to do that before the dungeon revamp, which is a separate problemOr, if it's Stormblood, I literally cannot do that because everything is immune to CC abilities, even Blue Mage's super overpowered CC abilities
everyone is streaming again. I've at at my desk and done nothing all day holy FUCK
>>741087265CC hasn't been used outside of deep dungeons since 2.0. ever.excepting the one time when the meta was to sleep the trash before the first boss of brayflox hard and zone them out. of course gear was so potent then you could just aoe them down on top of the boss and it required less coordinationCC is very powerful in deep dungeons though. did you know a mob will stop chasing you if you get 2 rooms between you and it?
XIV is so fucking back
>>741087640Yeah I personally doubt there's really anything that will ever make CC useful in FFXIV's context without it being enemies that can chase you across very broad distances, there is a punishment or outright failure for dying, and you have little or no Raise accessIt's just the name of the game, CC is going to probably be locked to DDs, foray zones, and maybe the new MSQ zones in Evercold if they absorb the concept of foray zones, forever
>>741067929Trusts were clearly made with a possible offline FFXIV in mind for the future.
>>741087640ermmm acktually there was an A rank in HW that had to be interrupted
>>741087905and the repose strat for the mecha turtle in origenics
