What happened with Endfield?
>>741050560As it turns out, having horrible gacha systems and no QOL makes people quit your game. Even the original arknights makes more money than endfield now.
>>741050560They would have made more money by just releasing a PC client for the first game
one of the greediest gacha systems in 2026, and that's with FGO still around
>>741050560Gacha aside, the non-factory content is terrible, and the story sucks.
I really liked the fact you could have all characters fighting simultaneously without swap shit, but the rest was just very mediocre. Sad.
Meanwhile NTE has been at the top for months while being extremely generous and giving you free stuff nonstop.
>>741051673NTE is more casually playable than the other 3D gacha, even the mobile ones. It's an actual fun city to explore, whereas another game just has a field and a mountain.
>>741050560This is what happens when you make a rerun banner 3 months into the game lifespan and followed by a male banner the next month, the game dies.
>>741051673NTE has modern QOL like the fact that you can spend double stamina for rewards. Endfield locked that feature behind fucking tickets.
I lose track of how many systems there are in Endfield.There's levellingDijang compartmentsexploration leveloperator affectionbattle passdaily eventsmushroom picking for levellingweapon bannersgear craftingAIC optimizationfarmingregional developmentdelivery questsrecyclingauralinesdijang levellingIt feels like there's 7 more systems than there should be.
>>741051943Male banners literally kill all the interest in a game, just look at wuwa, it started with a male banner and it almost died on its first month
>>741052171I was dumping 200€ each month into the game, but the long ass dragon banner and the vampire homofag killed my interest on the game, I'm balls deep into GFL2 now
>>741050560Content arimasen
>>741052171Only culture war parasocial gooners think like this. Actual JRPG players need MEN in the game.
>>741052404I like cool dudes and not bishie faggots. should have made some of those mad max motherfuckers with the fists or the big axes playable instead of these gayass twinks
>>741050560awful update cycle besides everything pointed out here, even if you like something out of this you will spend months doing absolutely nothing
>>741050560sucked dick and really cemented HG as the hacks they always were
>>741050560Game is pretty fun, but they completely fucked up and tried to have 1 single banner for a month and a half and a lot of people got bored and quit
>>741050560Hardly any noteworthy content worth mentioning, just plain boring.
>>741052404I'd roll SilverAsh, Ulpipi, Thorns or Mountain, not these literal whos
>>741050560came back to do some clean up content and was getting filtered by Aic again and also was able to 100% clear the new monument mode it was rough to get all those medals on agony they also have survey for returning players.
I'm still trying to figure out what Wulgard is saying during his ultimate months inPack of the Kuna?
>>741052404>Only culture war parasocial gooners think like this.Those are like 90% of all gacha revenue
>>741050560 reminder this shit got more marketing the 99% of triple a shit in the west before and during launch
>>741050560Any gacha not called Genshin is doomed
>>741053103>Chinese person: "I can beat Genshin"
>>741050560i have open world fatigue
>>741051985>here's a bunch of stamina pots>and double stamina usage tickets>but they all expire in a couple daysas a newer player this design choice baffles me
>>741050560Liquid shit in AIC has been a complete disaster. No fun allowed bullshit where all the systems barely work together and youre basically limping along produxikg enough of one specific material because of the severe limitations of how pipes transfer liquids in specific volumes with the input bottlenecking. Content is forgettable. Characters stop mattering after their patch. Story is sleep inducing and beyond terrible. Events are complete horse shit. Repeatable content is lame, boring, and unfun to the point the meager 1/10th of a single pull you get weekly from it makes it not worth wasting half an hour doing a week. Only good thing is the music and Mifus huge melons
>>741052592the models and world are pretty well designed and the animations okayit suffers from the typical japanese/chinese gacha game problem of>mostly silent and extremely dull protagonist that everyone seems to like for no reason>cartoonish villains/antagonists>pretty boring over arching plotcombat is also barely serviceable
>>741053784>Mifus huge melonsI love her gameplay
>>741053586
>>741050560They listened to player feedback and largely ignored the only unique part of the game (factory stuff). Combat is dull but spending stamina insists you engage with it in a repetitive way. The storylines didn't have the same flavor and feel as AK event storylines, which are what gave the original game such a diehard following.
>>741050560gugugaga happened and overshadowed the actual game
>>741053784yeah the liquid factory is shit and just encourages you to swipe blueprints because of how difficult it is to homebrew something even vaguely efficient
>>741053586embrace the autobattler idle gamesshitpost while chibis scream at you on the other monitor
>>741053887her gameplay is boring since she can't get vulns on her own, I wanna just spam her skill but you don't get to do it much
Finally got to Wuling. It’s better now, but man was Valley IV rough.
>>741050560sad that the original gacha is making more than this one LMAO
>>741054245wuiling is much, much worseenjoy your slapstick humour, shitty bandit storyline for 5 chapters and fujobait antagonist
>>741054132What’s up /bag/
>>741054156Perlica/Gilberta/Rossi/MiFu Start the attack chain with MiFu, group with Gil skillWith the final attack you proc Perlica and Gil combosThose procs Rossi and Rossi's procs MiFu'sUse MiFu skill 2 timesRepeat
Endfield is the only game giving me chunni metal core AMV music so I have to keep playing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-EtJEKZjoE
>>741054307Thats just sad. Hypergryph really thought this was going to be their next big money printer lol
>>741053586endfield isn't open world
>>741054327Oh nyooo ;-;
>>741054458whatever it is it envokes the same feeling as >>741054052
>>741052839I assume you mean the Ultimate 2 voice line. It's not in English, probably Italian, and he's saying "Go for the throat!".
I still want the original Xenoblade combat.
>>741050560Devs got in over their head. They don't have the content pipeline set up for a game like this.
>>74105056040 days banner one month in
>>741054546two of those also are not open world. hell star rail is basically a series of corridors. I genuinely don't know what you actually want other than to spout buzzwords.
>>741050560Extremely derivative, with awful monetization besides. It just does next to nothing to stand out. The cadence of content is also very slow.Like with most of these games, I'm giving it until the 2.0 version. If it disappoints or is more of the same, I'll simply uninstall it.
>rate up characters join the 50/50 after their banner is over>but they share the probability with all other 6*s>there's zero way to spark / hard pity those limited off banner 6*s>also your pity towards 120 does not carrygood way to turn off players>>741054920I'm waiting to see what region 3 will be, but if it's another fucking china region I'm out. Endfield's at the top of my to-drop list alongside HSR
>>741052023every other gacha is trending towards minimizing the amount of bullshit you have to do daily before you can actually play it (if there's anything left to play) and they launch a new game with 8000 mind numbing daily chores you have to do each time you log in
>>741055137the biggest insult is double stamina usage being locked behind a resource in 2026
I swear the majority of gacha conversations online and from developers is all purely based around how to satiate streamers playing the game for 8 hours a day.
>>741050650>having horrible gacha systems and no QOL makes people quit your gameThe game was a fucking boredom to play, though, most people probably didn't even reach endgame with how fucking terrible is going through the story.
>>741050560Feels like all the other 3d gacha games on the market thats already flooded with them.
>>741050560The factory tinkering part of the game is the main thing that makes me want to come back to that laterThey kept that part up along with everything else, at least, right?
>>741055420haha...
>>741055450Fuck
Ey I like this Tangtang bitch. Games funny now.
>>741055450Aiyo…
>>741050560Combat was way too basic. there was no fun TD mechanics and the only fun thing about it was playing as death strandting gacha was killed when we arrived to not China.
I couldn't get into the factory building, the whole tutorial in the beginning turned off a lot of people.I really liked the design of the characters but gameplay just felt like a slog.Unfortunate.
How does the game look as good as it does?
>>741056356>shill black culture>by releasing a chinaslop regiongas leak
>>741056356Wait, Black culture poster. Why is Endfield also black culture?
>>741056356Dont lie to me, you were just trying to find any excuse to post that picture, jeet.
>>741056659>Release chinatown, chicago>flopAmazing business decision, shame it didnt work and china still doesn't like blacks nor their culture and the game only is popular in the west, where everyone is f2pZZZ now is about to release on steam after mihoyo had to kneel to gabe btw
>>741050560The heckin' cute ai baby penguin didn't convince people to waste money on it
Wouldn’t it be more interesting if the AIC stuff worked into puzzles in the overworld?
>>741050560The game is shit, people shit on the gacha but i assure you, it's the least of its problems
>>741055420Just play factorio or satisfactory, its the actual games without the gacha part
>>741056356“Aiyo” is black culture
>>741056737what the fuck are you even talking about?
>>741050560he floped
>>741054082This ai slop thing only makes it more unappealing to outside observers.
>>741056356goddamn EOSFIELD
>>741050560It's filtering SEA for deviating from Hoyoslop formula
>>741056908ignore the blacked weirdos, just put them on filter and any thread is better with them hidden.
They will fix it. playing it now is an investment for when it becomes good
>>741056983There is something about new gachas having AI sloppa as their only source of fanart.You don't see this with normal games. It can't be the players, can it? Are they all really jeets?
>>741056459it doesnt help that because it's a mobile game the factory building interface is like pulling teeth, i wouldnt be surprised if a lot of players quit before they got the overhead view>>741056826theres some real basic puzzles in wuiling where you use pumps to move water, but thats about it
>>741057134games, gacha specifically still have organicly drawn fanart memes, this AI thing is it's own thing for endfield and it's jarring as fuck
>barely enough for 120 pulls in 1 patch>and that's grinding absolutely everything in that patchyou have to hate yourself to go through tyhis
>>741057001How are jungle asians meant to do the AIC stuff
>>741050560still playin
Saint won!
it's weird seeing endfield fags complain about stamina systems in other games when endfield's own system is archaic and garbage
>>741056737niggas in chicago are sword flying now???
>>741050650"more" is an understatement, this is probably a cygames situation now where one game funds the development and support of other games
>>741055137Hypergryph is a very proud company who loves going their own way, which is why you get this utter garbage everyone has already moved past from long ago
>>741057373Damn....its so over for Hypergrift.....
>>741057391I agree here, but NTE is just more fun to play. Endfield is deeper to play, but majority don’t respond to that unless it’s their main game.
>>741054335ackshually this is what i was referring to
>>741057573God damn I remember those few months where you couldn't go anywhere without seeing shilling for it, how do you go from that to THIS
>>741057573Endfield is basically a super expensive advertisement campaign for OG Arknights.
>>741057279they dont, they cant even figure out blueprints
>>741050857Still waiting on this. Hopefully it's coming this year.
>>741057780By literally doing a re-run banner on your third patch.
>>741057751>deeperwhere exactly? it certainly isnt in the combat, which makes up 80% of the game
>>741057780Nothing to spend money for?Pay $10 and you have 110 rolls guarantee per patchYou also get 1 ,or 2 new characters when they feel daring, per patchDupes are worthless, they are not +600% power or straight unlocking components of the characrer kit otherwise lockedNo weekly/biweekly hoyo like content where if you fail to keep up the powercreep meta you will literally struggle to get all rewards
>>741057780sensible people would price their gacha to be within "reasonable" limits, and have mechanics that encourage you to roll now because it will carry over to the next banner anyways to bait your FOMO and impulsive spendingendfield does the opposite of those two, the gacha is expensive as fuck and they've designed it so with the message>dont roll if you dont have 120 rolls>absolutely do not fucking roll, you are throwing away that 10 rollso what happens? people dont bother buying to roll that yolo 10 roll
>>741050560Retarded gacha, factory content that while good IMO serves no purpose at all and the story being incredibly mediocre. It's a shame because the game is beautiful and with a lot of production, but the most important factor for me at least, the story, is absolute garbage.
The combat feels boring. That's my issue.
>>741058218the setting and premise is cool but like you said the story is hot garbage, everything just ends with endmin holding our their handpuzzles, fights, mechanisms, plot points, plot devices
>>741056356What the fuck are you talking about? I haven't even seen a single black or respectably brown character in all of Endfield yet.
>>741058025Combat is deeper than the other action games, the problem is its action combat. When you can get by with holding Square, people tend to do just that. The next problem with the combat is that you don’t have enough stamina to do things, so you revert again to holding down square. What the combat needs is a combo meter that builds up after certain reactions and staggers than THEN results in an ultimate.
Is the Endmin meant to be the doctor from the original? As a secondary, that’s what I assume it’s going for and how I understand the portal and the North Pole.Maybe the man to being a woman part eludes me though.
>>741050560Nothing, it's doing as fine as any other 3d gacha is. Why does this thread sound like /vmg/
Cope
>>741058897Endmin is definitely not the Doctor, on account of not snapping like a twig the moment actual physical activity comes up. Rather, they seem to be some sort of sapient Originium construct of a complexity unheard of.
>it's doing as fine as any other 3d gacha islet's wait for the homo banner to drop before making any claims
>Endfield tanked>Snowbreak looks to be heading to EoSHopefully BD2 will follow
>>741050650>>741055342this
>>741055342>having horrible gacha systems and no QOL makes people quit your gameI don't know, people sure still play genshin despite QOL being fucking minimal after 5 years
>CCP mandated chinese region >CCP mandated chinese characters >flopped how do we save Endfield?
>>741050650but... gugugaga penguin?
>>741058897endmin is originigrok
>>741050560The only meme it had was the "30k" meme for that really short period of time and it couldnt catch on.Plus, making a game based on a previously established IP really doesnt help. It makes people feel like if they havent played the original through, theres no reason to play it. Same with any anime gacha, like the seven sins one. I wont even download that because you probably have to know the characters and be previously invested into it's story to get the maximum enjoyment out of the characters' dialogue and references.
>>741059264
>>741059173>Snowbreak looks to be heading to EoSThought that game got got by the govt
>game crashes>silently starts chewing through 64gb or ram for no reason
>>741059119care to share your metrics on how Endfield is performing?
GUUGUU GAAGAA!!
>>741059625yeah here
>>741055329I've gotten this sense too. While I understand that those are the players that have higher investment, with potentially wider influence, and are actually likely to engage with any community stuff, they are entirely separate from your typical player experience and should not be catered to. Ultimately, those players just want another treadmill for content, and FUCK that.
>>741059868Now post YOUR monthly earnings. That’s what I thought.
I was almost turned off at the start with the 3 gorillon tutorials prompts that did not need to exist.Then I dropped the game when Rossi came out because I was just doing pointless chores and there was no content besides tweaking the factory.
>>741057573before release I said the gacha was a scam because they weren't confident in player retention
>>741059253Survive until 2.0 to escape China, like WuWa.
If this game didn't demand constant daily attention like a fucking job I bet people would at have at least kept it on the back burner for when actual updates come outInstead it's going to be like uma where 80% of the original playerbase burns out and never comes back because why the fuck would they when they'll have missed so much and be hopelessly behind and all that are left are the sunk cost whales
>>741060341what're you talking about
>>741052454>bishieActually he's an ikeoji
China. That's what happened. Nobody likes their notChina region. It's always the worst performing region. Just stop trying to make notChina happen. Not even the Chinese like notChina.
>>741054082I love guga
>>741050560I like it. But I can't say it's a perfect game. CC is coming out soon and should be a nice way to see how the games systems feel when put under stress. Factory is kino and they should double down on it. There's a pretty strong hate campaign going for it and it reminds me of Wuwa before it became big. And as a Wuwa expat I'm going to stick around because I like it and online browns are a vocal minority of people who don't matter.
>>741060429You're looking at a "cash cow" product.They can still make plenty of money milking the current diehard playerbase but they can never actually grow that playerbase. Most gachas are like this. That's why these companies are constantly churning out new games.
>>741059378survived but everything got censoredyou can still uncensor a lot by a single swap of filesthe problem is that now they delayed the next event so you can HOPE and assume they delayed the update to fit the next anniversary ORDOOM and assume the inevitable will happen soonIn both cases, you can still play it in a private server so I'm not that worriednow if someone leaks the source code of the game...
>>741061014as long as gbf exists cygames will never go bankrupt is the sad reality
>>741050560They fumbled everything but world design and style
I know the Endmin, but I don’t tell him outright. Instead, I simply allude to our personal history together by giving him glances. He did so much for me, but I’ll also never explicitly say what that thing was or if it even existed. *Endmin leaves the scene*Endmin. You truly have forgotten, haven’t you…
why is the writing in endfield so mediocre, when original arknights is great
>>741061580endmin, you are recovering and shouldn't exert yourself*end of patch*Endmin saved everyone by pushing themselves...
>>741061713I would assume because the original was based on visual novels, where Endfield is based on console JRPGs.Even if a visual novel isn’t that great, you become attached to the writing and world simply from how long you’re invested in the dialogue. Go and play a mediocre VN and you’ll get what I mean.
>>741057134I don't to want to defend pajeet, but in this case it's chink spamming seedance 2.0. Endfield also came out during its popularity, and you can guess what happen. Slop just overshadows everything and kills people interest in making any fan content
Chubby Lung
>>741058319>>741058218Is it worse than Wuthering Wave's hastily done story rewrite upon Launch to the point where it just seems like random 'Mad Libs' story just to fellatio the MC for standing on the same carpet as another character?[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Libs]
>2.0>Wuwa went to Italy>Genshin went nowhere>ZZZ went to China>Starrail went to DisneylandI’m guessing 2.0 Endfield will be in the snow
>>741062002Genshin went to Japan, no?
>>741062002Genshin 2.0 is the China. You only get introduction in 1.0
>>741062095>2.0I mean 1.1
>>741062000>KPOP Demon Hunters Mad Libs
>>741059346>spammed slops so hard they stop people from engaging with the gameSo, this is power of AI
I'm so glad that gfl destroyed china in their universe so we never have to get mandatory china wank setting wank
There should be a ban on amnesia plotlines.
You guys do know that the Chinese government gives huge funding grants to businesses, especially creative outputs, that feature Chinese culture to be able to market the country abroad in a positive image?
>>741062526That would kill gacha games.
>>741062442I'm not sure if chong was being cheeky, but it's pretty fucking funny in retrospect
>>741062526>Anon-min, you were banned for… three entire days>your memory loss after the attempted router reset is…>Anonministrator. We’ve heard of your GETs and (You)s. You are a welcome ally>Who… am I…? This image… this Filename is familiar…>It’s yours. OC, remember? *traces the jpeg slowly with her fingers*>*alarm starts going off*>it says I’ve been restricted on this IP, captcha is->Its the Jannygeloi
>>741061713are you joshing me right now
>>741050560What were they thinking with the weapon banner currency? You're fucked if you get lucky and get the character early where you have no shot at their sig.
>>741050560The only way this game will succeed is if they ditch the entire plot and make it abut the penguin.
>>741050560Make the combat a most boring version of genshin instead of the xenoblade one
>>741052404This. Look at LADSYuritrannies are just too vocal
>>7410598683rd party data collection of some mobile revenue, nice data.
>>741050560Shitty gacha mechanics. There's not much else to say. It has peak design with Rossi but every new character after is the same chinese slop.
I really want to enjoy the game and appreciate a more laidback experience after a day of work. But the gacha system is just horrible. A game should reward those who play it and put in the hours, but in Endfield, being an active fan means nonstop humiliation and having nothing to do for 90% of the time. If the product is all about advertising characters without gameplay and then won't even give me any characters, then why the fuck would I keep playing?
>>741064079Hopefully we'll diversify properly once we get the hell out of the (admittedly very pretty) Space China.
>>741062683While that map isn't real, it does say Western US and the Coastal China are very fucked, Israel most likely got overrun by the Neo-Soviets in WW3 btw.
>>741059275>Plus, making a game based on a previously established IP really doesnt help. It makes people feel like if they havent played the original through, theres no reason to play itit also doesn't help when you make your sequel complete ass compared to the previous game, either. zero overlap with the first game, even.AK is, at worst, competitive for being the best tower defense game, even outside of gacha; Endfield is not only completely different, but it is also bad at what it does.
>>741050560i wish all these gacha games were normal games. they look good but they all feel like second jobs. endfield especially, i love action rpgs with the party on field. but i just can't, i don't want a second job
it was just another shitty genshin open world clone #100
>>741065328All open world games feel like a second job, gacha or not, retardbro...
>>741050560The dailies you had to do for pennies worth of roll currency were atrociously boring. You could totally avoid any combat for days at a time while having to spend 10+ min a day on zip line missions. That's not to say the combat was spectacular in any way, but then why am I farming to obtain and level new characters? The story mode would pidgin hole you into under leveled pre-built parties so that's not a reason. You could get max rewards with solo f2p characters like Chen. If you did want to level up a new banner girl it would take months of grinding for just max her level, weapon, abilities and gear; not to mention her supports that are stuck at level 60 with no upgrades. I might log in for the main story missions in a year but I'm sure I'll find I'm not behind in the slightest; mostly because everyone on my friends list will have stopped playing by then.
>>741065445it's the stamina system that is the issue, faggotbro i can play skyrim or elden ring whenever i have to play gacha every day and do dailies or my account gets stuck since i HAVE TO, it becomes a job
they need to revisit the combat and get the fuck out of china asap for the sake of the story.and if we are being real, the characters are just not that interesting.
>>741065560if the new content won't burn them the factory loop will and 80% of my friend list was dead when I came back like a few months ago
>>741052404>Only culture war parasocial gooners think like thiSo 99.99999999% of gacha players, cool. "actual JRPG players" aren't playing gacha games. They're playing JRPGs.
I'm glad Endfield is failing, such a greedy ass gacha system shouldnt be allowed to succeed.
>>741065672>characters aren’t interestingCharacters in gacha games can never be interesting because anyone could be on a banner eventually and SEA idiots like a certain poster above will whine until the world ends. The only game I’ve seen get out of this is Wuwa with Phorlova and Nikke with spoilers.
>>741065763Actually, the JRPG IS the gacha right now. Japan is asleep with Furyu and compile heart making nonsense, Square doing handstands on FFVII and Falcom thinking they have a Tolkien universe on their hands. FFXIV was the JRPG saving grace and even that has dried up.
>>741065668Stuck how? Sounds like brain problems
>>741065913>FFXIV was the JRPG saving gracelmao that tells me everything I need to know about your opinion. Imagine unironically thinking FFXIV is a JRPG in the first place never mind saving it.
>>741050560I just got bored.The base content is pretty much insultingly easy/braindead. The only hard content is in getting your medals trimmed which falls in the autistic-achievement-hunting category which I could'nt care less about.
>>741065740My problem with the factory was that there was no way to show it off. That's what makes satisfactory with friends so fun, leading someone to build their own creation over hours only to come back hours later to find some awful monstrosity. The entire game is single player besides pressing "support" button in the spaceship every day. Any form of community had to happen on alternate media. It didn't help that the /vg/ thread was full of unabashed trannies (more than normal somehow).
>>741062000I only liked the mecha story and the black shore also fuck the UI it's such a fuck cluster fuck of stuff
>>741050560No Fluorite sex minigame.
>>741065984I get where you are coming from but that is the curse of live service and gacha games in general all the stuff is half baked sad to see honestly.
>>741065964I’m the king of JRPgs my opinion is absolute. In early 2010s you had that awful run of Final Fantasy where Persona was keeping the entire genre alive. Right now the major gacha are keeping it alive. Where’s Tales? Star Ocean? Dragon Quest? Wild Arms? Japans stuck in this AA mentality with all this stuff. I shit on Endfield but what recent JRPG has the balls to make a factory system as part of the game?
>>741066074No JRPG fans are actually playing those shitty gacha SE are shitting out. They're for gacha fans. It's telling that SE's gacha are kept alive entirely by the Japanese.
Shit gacha systems and boring gameplay crossed with the usual shitty Hypergryph writing
>>741062683It is a pretty insane dig for a Chinese game to depict the Chinese effectively nuking themselves due to bad health and safety practices.I mean hell as early as GFL2s release Sharkry's side event even has a pretty explicit criticism of the random stabbing epidemics that plague modern day China right now.It's weird to be in a world where it's more likely for a Chinese game to be critical of Chinese society than any western game would be of their own government.
>>741061713>when original arknights is greatthe fuck are you smoking? AK's writing was god awful
Kinda funny how filling in one of the surveys made me quit since it basically made me internalize all my grievances with the game.
>>741066115You don’t play JRPGs I can already tell. The only thing that beats the recent gacha is Granblue Relink. All of Japan is on the genre as well, because stuff like Wuthering Waves is pushing it while stuff like Kiseki looks like a PS2 game.
>>741066475>y-you don't play JRPGsComing from the gacha shill who so far has yet to bring up even ONE single JRPG. Kill yourself tranny.
>>741066524The AI can’t name the JRPgs that’s why I’m the best. I got Monolith on call. I got Falcom in my DMs.
i like it
>>741050560It's still fun?
>>741066769Nope
>>741050560i hope they make an offline satisfactory clone out of the factory shit i like the aesthetic of everything
>>741066859Damn, i guess I'm just imagining I'm having fun when I turn it on then.
>>741066769Never was.
>>741050560confusing af gacha mechanic
>>741066417AK has bad prose in first maybe 5 chapters, but even there it beats EF's vegan writing. Instead of power of friendship you get>mass murder of civilians by all involved parties, including local non-chinese government>torture>main girl murdering teenagers on screen, blood and all>casual racism>no ML whatsoever, the story is not about the MC, he's a witness at best
>>741067017it still has bad prose in all of the remaining parts my dude, if anything all of the catgirl london part is even worse than the beginning chapters.all of those edgy things you mentioned aren't really pluses either because none of it was in service to a well written or even coherent plot.I will agree though that I dislike EF's narrative more so far
>>741067001Remember how badly they lied to make it look like the game was good? Lmao
>>741055137In the long run, you can finish the dailies in less than 3 minutes if you don't care about minmaxing every single resource.>level up character once>level up weapon once>craft low tier gear onceThere. Dailies done. The weeklies and all other BS encircled around it notwithstanding.
I went to 80 on two current banners and got Pog twicemy fault, i guess, but it really torpedoed my desire to play more even if it didnt sink outright
>>741059064They'll definitely make the Endmin the Doctor in someway, because the chinese were turbomad that Endmin is cucking the Doctor out of his wives in Endfield, even if they're clones.
>>741060250Nigga they're going back to CCP country wank next patch
>>741067001>>741067098Meanwhile NTE is like 90 pulls, there's no 50/50 so you get the character. You also get like 120 pulls every patch and 100 free pulls for the weapons and you can clear map content to get 5* weapons.
>>741061713Original Arknights has like 4-5 memorable chapters amongst the vast amount of slop available.I don't regret reading it but I wouldn't call it good.
>>741067335pls understand, people who call gacha stories good are usually pic related
>>741062095Yes but in 1.2 immediately after you go to Dragonspine which was incredible.2.0 was Japan which was another significant step upwards from the previous areas.
>>741062683>>741066346It was them being cheeky, GFL1 is russiawank throughout.Though not sure if they eventually got warned about it, because they just merged everything into the fictional URNC and don't mention countries anymore, just city names.
>>741065935not really, faggotbro...
>>741067001speaking of which I'm still missing two standard characters well really one if I use the 5 star selector but I ain't gonna use it. I don't ever want to touch their banners at all.
>>741067451>Though not sure if they eventually got warned about it, because they just merged everything into the fictional URNCI mean, they do that because that's what happened. URNC takes over after GFL1 ending and assimilates a ton of countries.and URNC has been a thing since Bakery Girl (2013) so.
>>741050560I'm purely enjoying the gameplay and dailies are short enough (except for the booting up). My main problem is the DOG SHIT STORY. Not even OG AK has this DOG SHIT BEGINNINGS
>>741067098>mfw I need phd in surgeon to understand endfield weapon banner
>>741067519They completely remade Bakery Girl and they added a significant amount of lore that was not initially present in it. So they could've backed out of Rossartrism at any point to make it more in line with GFL1's story at the time of its release.
>get to Wuling >first thought is: “in NTE you can go inside the buildings”
>>741050560Not much. Slow, modest patches with minimum new characters and locations. Honestly the worst part about the game is the combat.
>>741062683I'm pretty sure there's a black zone in germany. Paradeus had a massive base in one there.
>>741066892Yup
>>741067809I don't see the point in retconning for the sake of itIt already works without it.
>>741051673I hope they can keep it up, I really like that game.
>>741051673NTE is in a league of its own though. What other game has a car
>>741068094I'm not saying they should've done it.... Please read.Merely that there must've been a conscious decision to move away from real life countries in the company, and move to fictional ones like the URNC and Antarctica.Whether or not it was the CCP's intervention or not, who knows.
>>741067001>10 pull refund on next banner onlyAlso expires after the banner ends lmao>single pulling 120 separate times is bestHoly shit, I didn't even know that. I've lost THOUSANDS by now
Sing along /v/!ONEBYONEBACKTOENDFIELD
>>741068550>Merely that there must've been a conscious decision to move away from real life countries in the company, and move to fictional ones like the URNC and Antarctica.Yes...to line up with the pre-existing lore of Bakery GirlIf they changed this to be say, the USSR and the EU, it would be a further retcon that does...what exactly?The closer Bakery Girl and Reverse Collapse are, the better.>Whether or not it was the CCP's intervention or not, who knows.I doubt it since, as I said, criticism of the CCP has continued in GFL2, albeit a bit more under the nose since, you know, no China in the Girls' Frontline universe
>>741050560Story really bad. Or story is fine but every character is written as shit. When I got Rossi and it still wasn't fun I dropped it. Also, early builds looked more interesting. It would've been nice for the factory to have more affect on the map than faster travel.>>741063069I assume it's like weapons are a bonus. If you got the character early the future pulls are bonuses for dupes. Depending on it's design it might actually be a quarter pounder > half pounder because 4>2.>>741062817Haven't played much og ak but this is much better. >>741067001>>741067098Am I remembering wrong or was 50/50 not a common thing before genshin. Or did I just play spark system. Spark is better and 50/50 is bullshit and any person that says otherwise is too used to shit.
>>741052404Lmao no, I would rather have no playable males.Stop being a homo fujo nigga.
>>741053867>it suffers from the typical japanese/chinese gacha game problem ofIronically almost no JP gacha suffer from this, instead they tend to have either borderline schizophrenic MCs or autistic weirdos, the villains being way too likable so they have to be redeemed into playability for profit, and way too much focus on overarching plots to the point people worry the gacha will EOS when any arc ends.What you listed is a gook problem, not really a japanese one.
>>741057780HG tried to make the entire playerbase of the OG AK into endfield, and this is all too painfully clear with how the story suddenly skipped everything and beelined into the build-up to fight the final-final-ultimate-final boss the second that endfield actually got a release date, btw previously to that the main story quest was about fighting hoodlums and an organized militia on not-UK.Now they are desperately backpedaling because nobody moved over, the paid shills made the mistake of phrasing their shilling as "OG AK is old and busted, move over to the new hotness" so the playerbase resents endfield for ruining the orignal game's plot and for endfield literally wasting years of time and money developing it.Now add to the fact that the average gachanigger is a braindead moron that already needed constant guides to clear basic OG AK stages and full blown factorio-lite is going to attract exactly zero people from the wider audience.That means the game pretty much has no audience aside from the autists trying to console wars with NTE and wuwa and that means it's dead on the water.
>>741068951who do you think draws most of the females you absolute dumb ass go play uma musame oh wait there's male horses....
>>741068951AHAHAHA THIS ESEÈ PLAYING AS WOMEN
>>741067136you know damn well there's a lot more to keep up on even if you don't minmax everything
>>741069352It’s really hard to get into the factory gameplay. When it works it works, but as soon as you get stuck in a concept, it’s over. Their returnee survey probably says it all. Most likely they don’t have an idea on what to salvage and what to tune at this point.
Who the fuck made the water bottle filling UI in the game?
>>741061014Uma dailies are horrendous, gacha is insanely expensive and endgame is for turbo whales only. I love the girls and anime but game is garbage. If you look at player base of Genshin, HSR or Wuwa it looks way better and big new patches often bring players back. NTE is growing with every month too.
>>741067285You mean 1% was mad. Most people including 90% of OG Arknights players want less Endmin and Endmin Jesus shit. Trying to make this a ML game when Arknights was nothing like that was one of their biggest mistakes.
I had to drop HSR for Uma
>>741050560For me it was too much grind
>>741070762wtf is horse pussy THAT good`?
>>741070161Only an utter pleb and deviant would fill bottles by hand. Jesus how can anyone debase himself so?
>>741070854look at the city slicker with his fancy machines over here
>>741069352I don't care about the og and got into endfield only because it looked like FFXV done right without Nomura's bs. Which it pretty much is. The factory is pretty fun but horribly shallow and underutilized
I played on release and ended up quitting right before Wuling because the story was unbearable
>>741070762Uma is genuinely a good game.
I think the game looks good, the character designs are interesting, but like every other gacha the gameplay just boils down to doing the same shit over and over again mashing the same one button rotation over and over again and the story/cutscenes are just the same old tired anime tropes doing the same shit over and over again. Its painfully slow.They really had the bones for some potential good gameplay with base building and customisation, assigning your recruits to different jobs etc. to actually give some purpose to owning more than like 2x teams worth of unitsBut they couldnt help but dumb the gameplay down to the same basic daily chore action gacha gameplay. Theres no reason to play it other than sexy girls, if you go watch porn for 10 minutes suddenly that benefit mysteriously vanishes
>>741071012>Endfield is FFXIII Versus How did you come to this conclusion
>>741071256The combat is almost exactly like FFXV. Hold button to combo. They even copied the warp dodging effect
I don’t buy the narrative threat of the Agelloi or the Bonecrushers. I remember in Arknights how the villains and the storm was set up so that it really felt like you against the world. You barely make it out of the first area, whereas in Endfield it doesn’t really feel like you’re ever in a precarious situation.
>>741071218I can't fucking wait for MANT to be over, runs take way too long.
>>741071218It is but forcing 40m long dailies killed the game outside Japan.
>>741067306Yeah, and we'll see another dip in story quality and revenue. Thankfully it's just for half a major patch and then we're going to notAmerica.
The gacha system is so terribly designed that I can't even come back for a 10 pull because that shit is dust in the wind unless you have enough to guaranteeLike that is the basic hook gacha games have and HG completely fucked it up
>>741071245>the character designs are interestingas someone on the sidelines the only thing that stands out are the FAT TAILSeverything else seems kinda genericalthough I guess there was the tall german(?) chick in uniform in the old game? that one was sex
Do the Chinese have a different narrative ethos in their writing? It seems like every Chinese gacha game prattles on as a form of narrative comfort. I know the Japanese for example, their writing is more poignant. They are happy to let one sentence carry an entire scene and let the poetics of it sit there.
>>741054052whats that second game ?
>>741071356That's from PSO and PSU anon.Those games are older than you.
>>741072094definitely feels like their writing wants to repeat the message and really emphasize itbit much at times
>>741072170probably Mongil
>>741070662They pay for it in the form of powercreep.Starting late isn't so bad when all the characters you missed out on have been phased out and are no longer worth using anyways. But it does feel bad for longterm players to see their characters collecting dust. Also makes the game feel shallow when characters are treated like they're disposable.
>>741072094>>741072425its an age old traditionon the actual literature side, chinks get paid by the word, not by sales or views or anything, they get paid by total text writtenso this pretty much bleeds to everything else because "more text = gooder story", chinks unironically think like thisand mind you it's pretty much comical if you ever made the mistake of getting into chink WNs, because sometimes you will sometimes see upwards of 5 goddamn chapters, of about 2-5 word document pages each worth of text, for a single sword slash or ball of chi thrown, it's fucking lunacyby the way, westoids also get paid by the word, and also think "more text = good" in case you were wondering
>>741072461>But it does feel bad for longterm players to see their characters collecting dust. Also makes the game feel shallow when characters are treated like they're disposable.this is a general gacha problem, not just an uma problemif anything it's worse on chink/gook gachas due to the rate they have to put out new characters to pray they get porn made of and get some zoomer engagementeven in OG AK it's the case despite being able to still clear all content with literal low rarity garbage and a single six star SSR, because why the fuck would you take an old team to beat the boss (that you have to farm) in 10 minutes when you could take the new shiny metacuck team and blow them up in 10 seconds?sure, you COULD due to personal reasons, but after being burnt out by the gorillion side content chores like IS, RA, SSS, annihilatio, and the event minigame, it's hard to give a shit, just give me the "blow the fuck up and be done with it" button to press it and call it a day
>>741054082Based
>>741072094Chinese gacha writing is highly influenced by visual novel writing, especially Fate Go and Kinoko Nasu. The difference is that Nasu usually set up his main plot and conflict very early and clearly while the Chinese hate doing that.
Wuling so far is definitely better, but it’s still slow.
>>741072872Fate is verbose as shit, same with Umineko and all the rest. I feel it’s more like the Chinese try to replicate what they see one person (Nasu) doing with 100 people. Fate is a masterpiece though, and the whole thing hinges on a core tenet. What Chinese game is even comparable to that? People will probably say Bakery Girl.
>>741072998Fate and umineko may be verbose, but it tends to be only for setup/foreshadowing and for a point.However chinks and gooks can't into writing consistency, whatever they setup on any given scene will likely be retconned later after the writers either forget about it or that lore point conflicts with the aura farming scene they are trying to write, which makes all that verbose spam completely fucking worthless.
>>741060448this
Am I on a date with Fangyi
>>741072341They were made for famicom? Damn
>>741050560>no QOL updates'>gachaslop>dumbed down mechanics >dumbed down story>censoredThe only good thing about it are the 3D models, albeit that will probably go to Sunborn very soon with their new game so ehh
>>741074715These Twitter posts are written by rival company marketing contractors.
>>741074795He's an arknights guy though.
>>741074715>falling for the bait pantyshots from chinks and gooks for the gorillionth goddamn timegrim
>>741050560It's fun
>>741067243I'm on 3x pog and 3x Ardelia, really fucking sucks and put it at the top of my list of games to drop
>>741072094the chinese are retarded so their writing spells shit out for players repeatedly
>>741072998Unlike those fucking hacks, Chong actually has talent to pull it off even if he does borrow a lot of his ideas from Muv Luv and MGS.
>>741067243I quit NTE because I went to exactly 90 on nanally and HatoriProblem with the fomo pushing is that you can't just fix a bricked account seed. I don't actually know what the benefit of having them if you don't have a profile of the person who owns the account
>>741050560Nice game, endbros
>>741072094The average IQ in japan is way higher, and within the niches of VNs and LNs you are expected to have above average reading comprehension, so authors can easily write with that assumption and use word-space far more efficiently while budling towards far more complex stuff.In fact even the stuff actually intended for literal children and/or westoids like shounenshit still routinely suffers from being way too complex for the average retard reading it.Meanwhile chinks are actual braindead morons, this shit doesn't fly even if you try because they will just straight up not comprehend it, so instead they have to build up the illusion of complexity with mountains of wiki-filler "deep lore" (that they will retcon after a few chapters), a gorillion sects and groups (that will never be relevant and be wiped out off-screen) and setting up a dozen rival/antagonist characters (that will get one shot by the MC for aura farming), only to have the actual plot be "bad guy does bad thing, some of the bad guys are actually good so they join us, bad guy fights MC, MC wins, everyone is happy" anyway.
>>741076462>the average IQ in japan is way higherJapan average IQ = 106.3China average IQ = 106.5>and within the niches of VNs and LNs you are expected to have above average reading comprehensionLmao. Most VNs and LNs aren't even on the level of Twilight, let alone actual literature.
I wish they'd make a way to farm weapon gacha currency.
>>741076986>instant bugchink seethekekto this day people still remember nasunobody will remember any chinkslop a year after it releases (if standalone) or after it ends/gets eos'd (if ongoing)maybe not even 6 months given people already don't care for shit like wuchang
I got stuck on an AIC tutorial for 20 minutes.
>>741077116You'll never be Japanese, retard.
>>741077301to this day i still don't comprehend how is that supposed to be an insulti can only think of responding "so?"also not even true because it's possible to just move to japan and get citizenship
>>741050560not enough bouncing rhythms>>741074882>wining and dining Yatohuh, didn't expect that
>>741075796Truth Nuke
>>741072094Trust me it only gets worse with the actual China-based events in Arknights. Jesus Christ they don't shut the fuck up. Some cunt's always gotta have a circular conversation involving an extended tea metaphor or something before someone finally flips the table and tries to cut his head off.
>>741077447One of the most naive posts I’ve read on the board in a long time. Here I thought it was only us boomers left here.
Bro the game turned into Mario Sunshine in Wuling what is going ooooonnnn….
>>741072461This is why ironically, the best gacha out there are fucking idol games because essentially, you're rolling for their outfits and alts and the characters are strictly capped by a certain number. I really wish gacha games would just go back from that type of system. The problem is that gachafags (Chinese) are fucking retarded and want to roooool for new shiny FOTM disposables.
>>741078579I've heard of games failing in China because they DIDN'T include arbitrary gacha mechanics. Those fuckers are addicted to gambling in a big way. There's a reason why the few bigtime casinos in Australia are all filled entirely with Chinese assholes.
>>741077918Liquid factory junk shilling to justify not making better and cooler multi-function refiners/grinders/molders/ect. Next region will feature natural originium gas powered shit, just watch. Hope you like balloons and maybe smoke management.(Yes they will forget that smoke is the bad thing Landbreakers fuck with when implementing this)
>>741078579NTE’s gacha is good because of this, it actually adds to the game because having a character means extra quests, outfits, little date and apartment things. The majority of gacha games are poised as action rpgs where the gacha is hindering your combat flavour/progression with new characters.
>>741078579What about construction games like AL, GFL1 and Kancolle
>>741078745sewage is actual shit,if youre going to force players to need a new ingredient give us a proper way to transport it across maps
>>741072526Spending pages to describe a single slash also happens in particular Japanese writing. The most egregious seems to be in some Nitroplus VNs.Hanachirasu (https://vndb.org/v430), considering how so many fights LITERALLY ends on the first exchange, you bet your ass the VN is going to spent loads of minutes on describing the intricacies of that slash.Soukou Akki Muramasa (https://vndb.org/v2016) isn't that far behind.
>>741079146>>741072526Funny enough, Fate/Hollow Ataraxia also have fights that ends on the first exchange, described in GREAT details.
AK and EF have shitty loreslop writing with zero effort so I'm gonna reciprocate the lack of effort by just copy pasting this youtube link that I haven't seen because I assume what it says applies to Hypergryph's shitty writinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFcIMMaxUo0
>>741079146at least nitroplus releases closed-instances of stuff, as in, their shit is not ongoing gacha that will never wrap up any of the plot threads it sets up
>>741067098>The best for f2p
>>741079146>>741079335Oh no anon, I don't think you really understand the scale of chink padding we are working with.The example of 15 pages to describe a single sword slash is not about a fight that ends in a single hit that is drawn out for chuunikino purposes, oh no boy, that's the average for a normal fight with generic average fodder with a back and forth exchange.It's not rare for a single fight to take what would be the physical equivalent of an entire 300-page LN volume in chink novels.
I am the gacha gamer with the best taste. When I quit a game, I know it's dead. My taste is always ahead of the curve. As soon as a game starts going downhill, I'm out. Must suck to be a bag holding fag who is the last guy left shilling dying games for free in hopes of more "content"
>>741054052>>741053586Same here, I've been playing more older and lower budget gachas recently because it's nice to have a fun little bonzai game without needing to climb some gay skyscrapers to open a single fucking chest.I was wrong about simple mission based systems and VN style story segments.
>>741079770>I was wrong about simple mission based systems and VN style story segments.if only people at large would get the memoi have souls/rollslop and genshit-style exploring fatigue
>>741079146In chink gachas it just tends to be purple prose or taking forever for some guys in dialogue to describe something rather than 10000000 words to be like >holy fuck is that the tsubame gaeshi??? Im fucking CUMMING UOHHHH SASUGA
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>>741067098It baffles me still how many people got duped by the spaghetti mathematics jewery they pulled. Even without seeing the weapons or essence system, they just assumed weapon banners could be bought and garunteed the same way as characters via swiping(technically true but with extra hoops to scam more mpney from you/waste freemium earnings). Then the game released and everyone learned quickly you only really get arsenal coins from wasting your pulls on banners you dont like. Pulls that will get you 95% trash and a single 10x doesnt even get you like 3 arsenal pulls. Lulls that dont carry over to next versions banners. The Arsenal that is also victim to the dogshit drop rates. With weapons some of which are the only real option for specific characters. Atleast arsenal has only hard pity?
>>741069352>fighting hoodlums and an organized militia so even the original game sucks lol
I know AK has a lot of chinawank but come on, are we getting stuck in chinacity for like, the rest of the year?? what the fuck man
>>741050560lmaaaaaaooooooo
>>741068852yep, this gacha system means 120 single pulls
>>741080818December 2026>edmin! the blockade residents are throwing another tantrum10/10 amazing plot
>>741080256Uh oh melty
>>741080763Stopped caring about the story a long time ago, the only good thing that comes out of it is the random webms that adapt the aura farming moments into easily digestible clips instead of chinkoid walls of text.Gameplay wise it's still good and the music is still amazing at least, but the story has been skip tier for literal years.
>>741079770That is just because of oversaturation and the reality that no one wants to actually play their gachashit
>>741080818were you surprised?The next region will be in 2.0, this isn't a mystery it's following genshin's path pretty simply
>>741057752>No PC ClientDamn i want to play Trickal but hate playing games on my phone
>>741053784>Liquid shit in AIC has been a complete disaster.Call me a brainlet but this shit made me stop bothering with the factory and just copied Blueprints instead (I mean having to redo the factory each patch is also annoying as fuck)
>>741054245>Finally got to Wuling. It’s better now, but man was Valley IV rough.Fuck no im getting fatigued of nonstop chinabullshit and want to leave already and it doesnt help that were gonna be there until 1.7 or some shit making me want to quit
>>741054920>I'm giving it until the 2.0 version. If it disappoints or is more of the same, I'll simply uninstall it.Same here im currently playing 7 Gatcha games and Endfield is the first to be cut off
>>741050560Based on my observations, lack of cool lizard dudes like that funny Skybox fella and knights like that old knight guy with machine guns
endfields graphics are just better than anything else, it's the highest production gacha game ever
>>741081646>I mean having to redo the factory each patch is also annoying as fuckI don't redo but I always have space open remaining for any possible new stuff. Not to shit on you anon but I think the game just badly shows how space inefficient every facility is, that it discourages a lot of placement styles and encourages cramming everything in the limited space
the graphics are the only good thing about it, everything else is dogshit
>>741053784>Liquid shit in AIC has been a complete disaster. No fun allowed bullshit where all the systems barely work together and youre basically limping along produxikg enough of one specific material because of the severe limitations of how pipes transfer liquids in specific volumes with the input bottlenecking. Content is forgettable.>>741081646>this shit made me stop bothering with the factory and just copied Blueprints instead (I mean having to redo the factory each patch is also annoying as fuck)To HG's credit, this is also part of the factorio experience lmfao.So on that front they copied the bad parts perfectly, factorio fags even love to call people "filtered brainlets" for not liking dealing with liquid production and the bullshit it results in, as well as not liking having to redo the entire factory because the one component you went to great lengths to make a single handful of is now suddenly considered tertiary parts you need hundreds per hour of, so now you have to redo the whole thing to be even more efficient.And yes, last I checked progression pretty much stops at the tank+explosive shells and laser turrets and everything is nothingburgers until artillery, then yet more nothingburger shit until the rocket launch.
>>741082083I don't need more to support the game
In ZZZ, I spend just 120 seconds to drain a whole day's worth of stamina.In Endfield I had to go through slogfest just to clear 50 stamina, I had to click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click for 3-4 minutes just to clear 50 stamina.And then I got depressed when I found out I still have 250 more Stamina to go.This continued daily over the course of a month.And i had to quit after this point because I was just worn out.Endfield grinded me to death so I uninstalled to save my sanity.
>>741081037>Suddenly, Ruan Yi's another brother from another mother shows up>Becomes sith lord to revenge against wuling>Endmin:"Fuck me do we have to do this shit again"
>>741082256>In ZZZ, I spend just 120 seconds to drain a whole day's worth of stamina.in hoyoslop the time black holes is the dailies/weeklies and the unskippable cutscenes due to some being walky talky segments
>>741082256In Endfield I use 4 ultimates to kill everything, occasionally depending on the type you need to wait for new enemies to spawn in, all for 160 stamina, then start a new one and use 4 ultimates again for another 160 stamina. Its a lot faster now.
>>741081101they always post that to deflect criticism.
>>741082495>weekliesWeeklies are 3 battles, each 3 minutes, against bosses that have dangerous moves, and I feel rewarded because they give me pull currency for this effort.In Endfield, the Daylies are not difficult, they are just giga tanky HP sponges, sometimes I would actually fail the DPS check and time ran out, and I fail the mission and didn't even clear the 50 stamina.Until I swapped to Physical attacker team with Endmin, then I was able to reliably clear the slogfest in 3 minutes without the timer running out.But it still felt like I was trying to cut through a brick wall with my kitchen knife. My real life sanity couldn't survive.>>741082698>In Endfield I use 4 ultimates to kill everythingWhen I spent Ult in the first Stamina clear, the ult would be lost and I would have no more ults for the remaining 250 stamina.And even with the ults, the 50 stamina clear would still require a good 2~minutes of grinding the brick wall with my kitchen knife.
>>741082495>in hoyoslop the time black holes is the dailies/weeklies and the unskippable cutscenes due to some being walky talky segmentsI love how some people say retarded shit like this with such confidence despite it being categorically incorrect. (It's only true of Genshin, that's it)
>>741083114>(It's only true of Genshin, that's it)coincidentally it's the only hoyoslop i played, and given their allergy to add any real QOL to the fucking game for years until i quit around late-inazuma, im surprised they have QOL on their other games
honestly all the characters look unappealing, so does the world & gameplay. as if the creators asked an ai how can i make my gaem be as bland as possible for mass appeal. idk about the gacha because i didn't play, but i could easily tell it was d.o.a
>>741083194Star Rail and Triple Zed are packed with QoL and keep getting more every so often.Everything people cry about is basically solved, gear RNG? You can craft it, and pick stats, and reroll the bonuses.You can customize your spook pull in HSR and you can sweep your dailies, you don't even need to auto battle.You can skip cutscenes (it summarizes the cutscene in a paragraph)Both are pretty damn frictionless at this point.
>>741050560It's boring. Nothing more to itEasily one of the best and worst gacha game experiences>Fantastic graphics and presentation>Great Factorio experience as a starting point >Shallow repetitive combat with no depth>You have Amnesia and anyone important knows who you truly are and refuse to elaborate>Horrible Factorio experience after that since the systems and mechanics are dumbed down>Incredibly boring exploration of fighting fodder garbage and doing toddler tier puzzles to open a chest containing 5% of a single gacha pull>New patch adds like 3 hours of content before it's all back to the usual boring mindless dailies>Gacha is terrible, probably one of the worst iterations of modern monetization systems, extremely greedy and punishes for getting lucky since you wont get enough currency to roll the weapon banner and since there's no pity carryover every single roll you do is wasted unless you go full pity.There's really nothing interesting to Endfield after you have played like 2 weeks and you have gone through most of the main quest. You can safely quit playing and not miss out on anything.This game would have been completely forgotten in 1 month and barely made any substantial amount of money if it didn't have the Arknights brand behind it.The fact that the original Arknights game makes more money and it's a chibi tower defense should tell you enough how wrong everything went for Endfield.
>>741082974They made it so you get Ult on entry, along with making more things count for dailies so you have more reason not to do the silly daily quest. Once you get stronger it's far quicker and easier, the kitchen knife bit is true early on.A lot of people slept on gear but now that's had multi selection added to it to help out as people were just not touching it one by one.
>>741083581The story might be another big reason I bailed.So many of these games revolve around you being le mysterious chosen one. I honestly prefer it when they have shorter, episodic stories that focus on side characters or other factions besides the hero.
>>741083686I was expecting a story with some kind of edge coming from the arknights world, not happy adventures with a chosen one mc who everyone loves.It's a very low time investment game so i'll keep playing for now but it feels wasted
>>741062742I appreciate your post.
>>741072094Purple prose is an issue with chinese writing yes. This is probably best evidenced by their various LotM ripoffs.
I liked Laevatein's story quest, and the implications of memory loss and the imposter syndrome felt by the Endmin due to the expectations placed on them by the others. I felt like there was possibility for an interesting character progression there, with eventual conflict because the "new" Endmin is different from the one everyone else knew and might reach different conclusions than the old one did. I actually thought they were heading in that direction since you can choose dialogue options where Perlica looks very disapprovingly at you. However, starting with Wuling, the story doesn't seem like it'll really delve into this matter.
>>741062683>my city is mentioned in a gacha mapUnexpected. What "protection zone" mean in the context of this stuff?
>>741083942it's only the mission titles with the gay faggot that even hint at continuing the philosophy of edmin's memory loss, whether following the path laid by the previous endmin is actual free will or just a puppettheyre going to drag this out forever, and it's going to end in an unsatisfying way
>>741072526>on the actual literature side, chinks get paid by the word, not by sales or views or anything, they get paid by total text writtenholy KEK. please provide a source. hilarious if true.
>>741050560The story is mind blowingly boring. Gacha stories are always shit, let’s be honest. But Endfield’s story is boring on top of being trash. It’s a boring, terribly written story with zero plot hooks and NPC tier characters. I wanted to call them chatbots, but even Grok has more personality than Endfield’s characters. Weird, because OG AK had a lot of charming characters. And also, the story has ZERO plot hooks, you are not getting emotionally invested in any character for the reasons mentioned above. How did they write something so boring? even lowest points of their original game is not as bad as this.
>>741084423NTA but best I could find ishttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_literature#Online_literature>Writers are paid either through royalties or salaries tied to daily output
>>741084423It is not exactly a unique thing in the west. Charles Dickens was infamous for it. And Alexandre Dumas certainly knows how to drag things out for his serialized novels
>>741084481my favorite character's story was the comically sexualized dragon and no one will take me seriously for saying so
>>741084040Habitable enclave in the middle of wasteland.If you ever played C&C its basically it.
I keep seeing shit like 'factory is the selling point' when you could play any of the most simplest ass factory game on steam would still be more complex
Yvonne carried my interest in the game for one month. Then I bailed out.
>>741063069>What were they thinking with the weapon banner currency? Its worse since there also is no carry over so ur essentially wasting pulls if ur pulling just for extra weapon currency the whole thing is fucking retarded and still cant believe retards defend that shit
>>741085397her and flourite are the only good designs, they fucked the game by doing a surtr banner right out the gate instead of something interesting
>>741085227It's selling point is the gacha game difficulty (easier than real games) factory. The buildable area is limited, the facility shapes are mostly the same, the resource nodes are fixed/few. The factory becomes a "puzzle to solve" than a true factory management game
>>741050560im Glad its flopping the Lack of QoL like having to do a load screen by visiting a friend 1 by 1 just to trade clues is infurating not to mention the 500 gems per pull but only getting about 30 gems per chest is mind-blowingly jewish
>>741085397>>741084915luckily they released yvonnes model so people can continue to coom to her well after EOS
>>741085227>'factory is the selling point'Only retards say this, the factory is almost disconnected from the gameplay, you only really interact with it to get gear, some extra stock bills and some acid to clear some puzzles in Wuling. And like the other anon said the whole thing is a puzzle you're meant to solve, so you'll just get some blueprints online and be done with it.
>>741085397I hate the chink designs in wuling. I wish we go back to russian communist kino in Valley IV. The mandatory chinawank is so done to death
>>741082113The worst part is I assure you this red water bullshit will not be used again. Next planet/region/whatever will use a new minable source. Knowing these retarded chinks it will be oil/fuel or like the one anon said natural gasses. We've far from seen the end of retarded pipe shit, but we're never seeing those dumb fuck liquid purifiers ever again after the acid+dust byproduct for 2 towers' fittings. At least in Factario you use those stupid little obnoxious parts eventually, after 2.0 in EF we will never see herpesite and precipitation acid or whatever they're both called again.
>>741086023i'm hopeful for italian wolves being kino
>>741083410>https://i.4cdn.org/v/1781449753813047.webmThis.Endfield's competition has 6 second daily clears.It's not even a comparison, the modern youth only has 2 second attention spans before they get bored, Endfield completely missed the target. with their grind heavy daylies during launch.
>>741085647Surtr is the best design Arknights has ever had.
>>741085227people who shill the factory mechanic are people who don't bother playing actual factory gamesinstead of it being tied in a meaningful way to the overworld, its just a separate land plot that you go back to upgrade to make items to sell to the different settlements for currency to buy items
>>741082775Better than what the other side does, when this gets exposed with picred to be the shopped job to some /gig/ nut they resort to call everyone indianshttps://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/461425682/#461432498
>>741087396Now check this out.
>>741067001the only gacha i play is trickcal which has no 50/50 after X amount of pulls, but hard pity that carries over and has no limited characters at allalso the last 4 eldyne banners have all given out the first copy for free
>>741050560combat is terrible. even genshin is better and i don't say that lightly.
>>741085397I can't stand her outfit or voice. What I REALLY don't get is the fact that she's apparently of Victorian ancestry, and her VA is Northern English... but she has a (janky) American accent. Fuck that, give me my Yorkshire waifu.
>>741050560overhyped game with no identity that failed to follow trends and even did went backwards, aka another "x game" killer.
>>741054554he's saying "alla gola", to the throat
>>741089501Story is the only one I want to complain. I'm mostly fine at the gameplay pacing.
>>741050560This is Genshin?
>>741089501We just gotta get the fuck out of Wuling. TGCC territory doesn't seem 100% rosy from descriptions, having inherited Kazimierz and Columbia's corporatist ways, so we could get some actual fucking interpersonal drama without having to worry about treading on the fragile feelings of the mighty CCP.
>>741090151>not-china region>it's either muh ancient mythological legends>or muh ancient customs and heritage>or bandits
>>741082495They will tell you you're wrong but if you add it up for a whole year it's a lot of time spent on the most mundane and pointless shit that are gacha dailies and cutscenes.
>>741055420Yes, the factory reached ~oil processing tier of factorio and we're getting the biggest AIC update next month
>>741090349It is rather grating how Wuling acts like they've got such a long legacy when the place is literally a decade old. For fucks sake Mi Fu walked into a construction site.
>you are leader of corporation with space ships and all sorts of tech and resources and agents>but you are amnesiac vegetable who can only swing sword around, give thumbs up, and do karate in one side-quest>you go around helping kids make photos, solve petty squabbles between people, beat up bandits>"oh endmin we totally couldn't put two pipes over there to drain the water, you are genius"Whatever the fuck your deepest lore is, whatever the fuck side material not seen or heard within the game says, as long as in-game you save kittens from trees and hit bad guys with a stick, it will be a kid game, because kid games are where sales are, so I'm confident that IF we ever leave fucking not-china, story won't improve one bit.
>>7410927421st region isn't notChina and it's still abysmal dogshit.
why does this game make browns seethe so hard though?
>>741093030Poors get irrationally mad at things they can't pirate.
>>741059346>>741059264is babu actually really popular with normies or is that just a meme
>>741092591Retard
>>741050560Should've went with C&C crossover game
>>741050560It was really cynical of them to put Arknights in the title, when it is so extremely different from AK. I went into Endfield thinking I could expect similar writing to what AK has been putting out in the last few years and instead it's a Saturday morning cartoon, but somehow with less plot and cohesion. Which fine, maybe you want to be a gameplay gacha instead of a story gacha. But the gameplay is a step down from Nier Automata, which was already fine but not amazing. But they also have that factory gameplay stuff, maybe we're doing a crazy curveball and they're all in on Chink Satisfactory. No, that is terribly half baked as well, so even plebs can get into it. To this day I do not know what this game wants to be, it's doing that mouthbreather thing where it tries to appeal to everyone and then no one is happy.
>>741094381The beta gods voted for this.
So once EoSfield EoSes Hypergryph is going to retcon the whole thing to have been a schizodream, and they're lso going to import Yvonne to the main game, right?
>>741069932Such as?
>Gacha>StoryStill baffles me people care about it
>>741095275It's like a soap opera and you get updates each month, what's not to understand?
>>741095275I need to know a characters background before gooning to her. Nothing else will do
Notice how I didn't say I didn't understand the story?This is why they need 2 mascots repeating the last 5 dialogues every 10 sentences.
>>741095275That should make the most sense out of anything though. Gacha nearly to the last have middling gameplay, they need to appeal to the median dipshit after all. It's the story where you can actually try a little, since whales are just retarded skipgods. FGO has bad gameplay and a bad gacha but it still tops charts for over a decade now because people are interested in the story drama.
>>741094381How would you know if the story is good or not? It took over a year before the story in the og got "good" lmao
>>741095470Who DID say that though?
>>741070662>NTEGenuinely considering hopping onto that.I'm going to join the minority here and say I actually enjoy Enfield. I like the story, the characters, the factory stuff and I just pay like 5 quid for a monthly pass that bumps the resources for shit I get in the free gacha pulls. It's a game you don't actually have to paypig to enjoy and I respect them for that The music is okay-ish, BUT there is one song I fucking LOVE and it's that weird chinese style synth wave shit that plays when you're in the factory in Wuling.https://youtu.be/i4-Vs16VLp0?si=o22wfGP_-VNKl7cGFucking love it kek
>>741095616They couldn't take in the years of writing knowledge they learned from the OG and apply it to Endfield? What, they made the start of the story shit on purpose so expectations were rock bottom for the Coke Classic reveal? Personally I would have just kept the writing quality going seamlessly like they were doing instead of reversion, but I guess I'm not a chinese gacha company.
>>741069352Don’t you act like fucking ANYONE liked the Victoria arcwordswordswords of brit politics, Siege existing, and nothing happening for several chapters straight was awful.
>>741057285Holy fuck she's so much hotter this way
>>741092591>oooh this ancient (Fuck what was it, Dan? Han?) architecture in current patch>literally any old architecture on the planet is at best 100 years oldIt’s a bit…. yeah.
>>741095275Og arknights has kino story. Unironically closest to Malazan scope I've seen in any media.
>>741050560i played really slowly and just reached wuling last month. i still haven't made a base there nor know how to make one, so now i have no lv70 armors and i can't do much stuff.
>>741050560I played Endfield for a while, it was alright, i wish the factory was harder, that said, this game also made me drop every other gacha because i figured out that having 1 character on the field only is lame, i can't go back anymore, and for that i am thankful.
saintontas is brown and encouraged you to jerk off to a child in gfl2 o algo
>>741095865>Chink synthwave Wasn't expecting to discover a new genre of music today
>>741096465>>741092591Isn't the whole game set only 150 years after Arknights?
>>741096465americans do this irl kek
>>741098949Yeah, and the colonization effort got cut off at an early point too so most cities are likely even more recent
>>741097584Explain joke. I can guess a variety of sexual things but I want it laid out for me.
>>741099716it's a page of a doujin, yvonne made a dildo riding machine she thought was too easy for her but she rode it the worst and squirted on her own face while the martial art master chen had perfect balancelaevataein has 2 because she also did anal
>>741100373doujin name?
>>741100816Can probably just look up endfield on panda and get like 10 whole results.
>>741051673>Meanwhile NTE has been at the top for monthswhy lie?
>>741051020This. The pull rates are outrageous.
>>741051020but this isnt wuwa?
>>741072094Chinese prose is so fucking awful. I can slog through a JP gacha storyline sometimes, but Chinese writing is horrible. The storytelling is horrible. The conversations are horrible. Fuck.
>>741079594What gacha game should I be investing in RIGHT NOW?
>>741101298dot abyss
>>741100816[FrozenSpiderLily] Yvonne - "Noob Pussy Test"
>>741101298solo leveling arise
>>741050560>Abandoned the male player base for troons and fujos Get woke go broke arknights cucks
>>741102560you are right wuwabro, teach everyone else how to be a proper cuck
>>741081101>>741082775>>741087903
>>741101986basedtoo bad its only yvonne i wanted to see them all
>>741074902She ironically had a detailed thong before getting the shorts treatmentThe new bird girl will probably be censored the same next patch I only give it a while longer before japs quit the game if they keep this up. They're not gonna put up with that nonsense every patch
>>741101298Genshin of course
>>741057573granblue makes lots of money though for what it is
>>741102896
>>741102969"Naturally"
>>741102964and like maybe 10% of that money goes back into the gacha game
>>741068897>Am I remembering wrong or was 50/50 not a common thing before genshinGenshin normalized rates being 0.7% tier. Before that they were around 2%
>>741098949>>741099684they retconned that like 3 times
>>741068897>Am I remembering wrong or was 50/50 not a common thing before genshin. Or did I just play spark system. Spark is better and 50/50 is bullshit and any person that says otherwise is too used to shit.Granblue created the spark system while Genshin indeed created the 50/50 system.It lowered the rates from 3-6% down to 0.6%, added soft pity, hard pity, pity carryover and a 50/50.There's advantages and disadvantages, you can clearly tell its main deal is to make gacha more accessible to new people in the "genre", as sparks are extremely punishing to those unaware of how the specifics of how it works.
>>741074715this, they censored the only panties ingame
Yuzhong....won?
>>741102883Ahh the classic chink gacha panty bait and switch
>>741103370with no pity
EoSfield
>>741108193nah arknights is too big, they can support endfield forever.
>>741090151We have like another half a year before we leave Wuling. I'm sorry but you'll have to put up with this for a bit longer. It's not practical to release a new region every six months.
>>741108552Arknights already ramped up powercreep to 11, it will start bleeding players soon.
>>741108552nah its over, players arent coming back
>>741102883I was pretty bullish at the game when I saw this firsthand on release thinking they'd give out better designs in the future after we leave Wuling. I wish it stayed that way but unfortunately they pretty much betrayed what they initially stood for. People always say you can just mod it out but modded textures don't react to water in-game so what's the point?
>>741108689i have been hearing that for literally 4 years and counting and content can still be cleared with low rarity shitters and free welfare characters in fact the recent balloons event was a goddamn piss easy joke
>>741108689>E-endfield will EoS soon...>A-arknights players will leave soon...do you ever get tired of this?
>>741109868kys endpipiDoc is forced to drag your sorry corpse around
