>soul>soullessdont tell me you fell for the OLED meme?
>>741063869this but unironically. black blacks is highly overrated.
>>OLED>phone>TV>monitor>>not-OLED>second monitor>Deck>laptop screenThey stand out but for their usecases hardly require an OLED. OLED on UW is pretty great since if some shit has black bars, they are not shiny black bars
how many more letters will they put in front LED before it sinks in that panels will never be solved
>>741063869Pixel cleaning is a poorfag cope. It will never perform it while you're using it, it does it after it gets switched off.
>>741064064no technology is fully solved. put your head in the sand and only pop up when you absolutely need a replacement if it bothers you to keep up with a new panel type every 5+ years.
>>741063869Both of those are soulless you surströmming smelling retard.
>the whole image shifts every couple minutes>forced 10 minutes pixel cleaning every couple hours or so>never really clean because of the coating>can't use it if there is another source of light in the room or you can't see shit because it's only 250 nitsOled screen are a humiliation ritual.
>>741064064They only need 1.
>>741064154An entire wall consumed by e-waste and LGBT lightsDisgusting
>>741064154>uses something as soulless as electricityVidya never had a soul
>>741064171Fuck anon you're so old.
>>741064154I can feel the static on my arm from those screenssoulful gaming
>>741064154Games on CRT look like complete shit for anything that isn't 6th gen or below.
>>741064239Can you hear your ears ringing or have you been old for too long to remember what it's like to have a normal range of hearing?
>>741064171You don't notice the shift while playing vidya, occasionally you just barely notice it doing other shitJust doing the refresh once or twice a day is plenty, I just hit it when I get up for a crap or to sort out dinner
>>741063998>black blacks is highly overrated.Heh...
>>741064534>Just doing the refresh once or twice a day is plentyAnon you are actively destroying your monitor lmao. You're supposed to do it when the monitor asks, not every day you retard.
>OLEDLOL LMAO what year are you from unc, Sony just killed oled.
>>741063869Yet another coping poorfag thread.
>>741063869>remove all sources of light from the room other than the monitors>crank IPS brightness to over 9000>dude why do IPS blacks look so grey?I will never buy an OLED because of this obvious dishonesty the OLED circlejerk displays.
>>741064032I second this >>741064064waiting for POOLED
>>741064171>because it's only 250 nitsMine is 1000.
>>741064171>>never really clean because of the coatinghttps://youtube.com/watch?v=3Tcn_WiyeUE
>>741063869I have an oled, the problem with dark games is real, you can't see shit because devs tuned the light for ips.
>>7410650031000 nits oled ? It's called a printing press, not a screen.
>>741064704>Tiny tv
>>741064654Apparently that's a panel refresh, not a pixel refresh. Which one you can initiate manually seems to vary by model
LG C1>850nits>5 years no burn-in despite wow/osrs/crpgs>perfect contrast>incredible media consumptionIt's all poorfag cope.
>>741064261>6th gen or below>He doesn't knowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3K_BmIxh_0
>>741063869I play more games in SDR so it's partially a meme depending on what you play and the state of how HDR works on windows is dreadful. It something that requires using a reshade plugin called renoDX for it to even function correctly so it's actually a massive hassle to get it to look right. RenoDX is not guaranteed to work on every game from my experience and I've done all kinds of tinkering and frankensteing old games to get them to work so I'm not a clueless tech illiterate moron. It's just over complicated and shit.I have a playstation 5 hooked up to a bigger OLED and I've made use of that whole 'turn SDR games into HDR' feature and it just looks simply okay. HDR does not account for how games made in SDR were supposed to look though. That idea is a meme and games made in SDR are often intended SDR viewing.
>>741063869>can't even edit an image properlyMust be the lack of a decent monitor
>he fell for the OLED memeenjoy your burn-in and thanks for funding MicroLED research!
>>741064781Good choice, I ended up with an original PG32UCDM when it came out, the W-OLED variant, and then a PG32UCDM3 recently. The latter is definitely the best, the first gen really doesn’t get to true black unless you’re in a completely dark room, but the colour accuracy categorically beats the W-OLED, and for some reason the monitor hardware and software is way better too - faster to change sources, switch modes, USB works better etc.
>>741064261There's edge cases where game UI's don't look good on high resolution crts but for the most part I played all of gen 7 on a widescreen crt.Like I had a 47 inch plasma and a 32 inch crt and I played almost everything on the crt.
OLEDs and HDR are proof that a fool and their money are easily parted lol
No, but I fell for the mini-LED meme and am enjoying it.
>>741066931
>>741066931yes a fool is parted with their money because they look at an oled and see that it looks better so they buy it, the oldest trick in the book
but OLED is soulful
>>741063869How are the mini LED monitors?
>>741066931You are brown
>>741063869OLEDs are legit. The only let down is HDR support since very few games use it well
>>741064185it's only missing one thingbut in all seriousness miniLED is so good already that i barely see the case for OLED, microLED will be insane
This is mine. Is it ok? What do I think of it?
>>741066747>I had a 47 inch plasma and a 32 inch crtAnd I bet the CRT was more than twice as heavy,
>>741067113mini-LED is still LCD. Not only does it have worse contrast (and haloing) due to non-self illuminating pixels, but it has IPS LCD response times which are a magnitude worse than any OLED panel. This translates in massive amounts of blur, almost mandating BFI. Of course, if none of this bothers you or you need to view static content for work, mini-LED is fine. I personally have a 120 Hz mini-LED on my laptop, but I would never choose it over OLED for my TV, handheld or PC monitor.
>>741063869>here see that comparison that you're looking at on your ISP monitor? you can clearly see that OLED is better than ISP
>>741063869I didn't.Sure it looks nicer but I don't want to use tech that requires me to baby it.
>>741063869With all the 5k and 6k miniLED monitors that are coming out at the end of this year and early next year, I pretty much consider OLED to be dead for monitors. There's going to be absolutely no reason to pick an OLED monitor when you can get a miniLED one that's 99% identical in terms of color reproduction AND is able to be much brighter due to 1200-2000 nits.
>>741063869I'm waiting for trueRGB monitors.
>>741063869only way I would get an OLED is if it were in 1080p, no longer suffered from the threat of burn-in, and cost under $300.
>>741069017Those aren’t gaming monitors. They are designed for static work where OLED would burn-in over time. 5k and 6k aren’t realistic gaming resolutions when modern games struggle at delivering 4k. And again, LCD looks like liquid crystal shit in motion which is why you have solutions like Pulsar with their own issues.
>>741067047Also chock full of tradeoffs and compromises. But at least those flaws are present right away and you can determine if they'll be a bother within a return window.
>>741069381Sounds like a good secondary monitor, been thinking of replacing my old one.
>>741064781Yet another coping poorfag post.
>>741069513Do you need 5k or 6k for reading chat?
>>741063869But wait if my screen can't show the black then how can this picture show me a comparison?
>>741069549Watching movies and shit while playing some games. Probably just going for a 2560x1440.
>>741069381>Those aren’t gaming monitorsThey all have dual mode where you can swap into 1440p and get 240-360hz. Some of them also have a "triple mode" where you can have 5/6k + 1440p + 1080p modes.>LCD looks like liquid crystal shit in motionHyperbole.>Pulsar with their own issuesI'm counting on them figuring things out with Pulsar until it becomes near-perfect. Keep in mind that this is just the first generation of this tech. Then when they figure it out, the endgame monitor will probably be a 5k or 6k monitor with 1440p dual mode, glossy coating and Pulsar.
>>741064032>>>OLED>>phonebased retard
>>741069608>watching movies while playing gamesDon’t you have medication for this?
>>741069701Not every game needs 100% of your attention at all times.
>>741069691>They all have dual modeThen buy a 1440p monitor to begin with. If you can’t afford OLED you extremely likely aren’t running a GPU capable of 5-6k.>HyperboleI own a mini-LED and it’s not. Sensitivity to motion blur depends on the person so lucky for you you’ll never need to look into things like real panel types and BFI.>They will fix PulsarExtremely unlikely considering it’s a niche feature using backpanel flashing which kills contrast and dimming zones. The only real solution would be BFI which is available right now on every panel.
>>741069765Slop enjoyers are the ones falling for the oled fad who could have guessed lmfao
>>741063998>>741064536>I'M SO RACIST I PREFER WORSE MONITORS BECAUSE THEY HAVE BRIGHTER BLACKS
>>741063998Personally I prefer my blacks crushed
>>741070082Nigger, I game on kindle paperWHITE screens
>>741069876>Then buy a 1440p monitor to begin withI've already had a 1440p monitor since they came out.>If you can’t afford OLED you extremely likely aren’t running a GPU capable of 5-6k.I am talking about buying a $1000 monitor and you think I can't afford an OLED? Come on. Also, you don't seem to understand that the whole point of the dual mode is that you use 5k or 6k for desktop usages and then swap to 1440p for gaming.>Sensitivity to motion blur depends on the person so lucky for you you’ll never need to look into things like real panel types and BFI.I have literally played multiple FPS games at a top 1% level, and I was even a semi-pro back in the CS 1.6 days. I'm from the days when we used to overclock our CRTs, and I have tried virtually everything that's possible in regards to monitors and monitor tech to chase that CRT-like feeling, anything from ULMB to BFI to DyAc, etc. etc. and it looks like for the first time with Pulsar there's something that actually feels like it might be very close to CRT-like.
>>741065160Asus ROG Strix XG27UCDMG
>>741070242Pulsar is fundamentally flawed as it sacrifices everything in order to deliver good motion clarity out of a bad technology. Since the backlight is functionally always on and no local dimming is possible the only possible usecases are limited to bright and colorful games and esports. Again, better solutions exist like rolling BFI on OLED which have none of the downsides of Pulsar. The issue is support; normalfags are cattle and rolling BFI hasn’t been a thing since LG C1 days and on PC you need unofficial shaders.
>>741069882I'm looking at mini led's. The fuck are you reading?
>>741064154Nice setup
>>741064261Why would you play anything after 6th gen?
>>741070345That's a 250 nit panel. 3% APL HDR numbers are marketing bs and it's annoying how they get away by listing these numbers.
>>741070440>the only possible usecases are limited to bright and colorful games and esportsWell yeah, the only reason I would want a monitor like that is to have a monitor that's both good for desktop usage, especially things like photoshop/drawing and editing, and for competitive games.
>>741063869how poor do you have to be to look at left and cope yourself into believing that its actually better?>uhhh but youll get burn in after thousands of hours of the same image!good thing I dont leave my display on a static screen for months at a time
>>741070839This is the board that thinks 1080p is the sweetspot.
>>741069692do you think phones dont have OLED or something? many of them do
>>741067402oh look, an oled shill channel
>>741069536If the stand alone version ends up coming out sometime this century I might just get that instead of waiting for the Steam Frame to come out.
>>741067223Yeah Redout 2 was decent.
OLEDs are too fragile
>>741071304Newest panels aren't
>he's still using OLED and hasn't bought a six figure microLED yetimagine being a peasant
>>74106740210ms makes absolutely no difference even if you're a ESports adderal addicted autist
>>741065239fucking based fellow C1 enjoyer, there's really nothing better.
>>741071331I've heard that before and then I see reviews from people who managed to scratch the coating with a microfiber cloth
>>741067402>5ms5 Milliseconds0.005 seconds...1 of 200 frames per second.Are these charts even supposed to be serious anymore?
MicroLED and QDEL any day now anons.
>>741066982This, once you see HDR1000 you can't go back
>>741071534Yeah 1 of 200fps.That means there will be visible ghosting at framerates beyond 200FPS. It'll mean that if you run a game at 240fps the panel won't be fast enough to actually show it.It's only ridiculous in that 120fps with strobing will look as clear as 240fps but with only 8ms response time as the requirement.Sadly nobody fucking knows about strobing tech so if you're gonna recommand a 240hz, lame as fuck sample and hold display and actually want to play at 240fps then yes, that's not fast enough. Imagine buying a 5090 for this shit and then the display you buy is simply unable to actually show you past 200fps.
>>741063869>I have to turn all lights so I can show off the black value differencehave fun burning your retinas
not buying oled until it can handle neet usage web browsing up to 12 hours a day without burn in
>>741071374Tests show it makes a measurable differencehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qjSGEOEaXo
>>741072914That means neverEven though the more modern OLEDs try to mask the burn in by lowering the maximum brightness of the monitor, it's still there
>>741069692Based dumb-phone user.
>>741065128>protective gear to spray rubbing alcohol on a fiber cloth
>>741072914>>741073356I've been using an oled monitor like that for over a year and there is no burn in. Just keep the oled protector functions on
>>741073685Wouldn't want your skin drying out.
>>741073705The burn-in is there, you just don't see it because the oled protection doesn't just protect from burn in, it also hides it
>>741073685It's because if he ever touches the screen with his finger, there will be a fingerprint, and then a smudge, maybe if he's lucky doing humiliation rituals like >>741065128, it won't get worse.
>>741065239>no burn-in
>>741074942YEEEEEEEOWCHthis kills the goyled fag
>>741074942Yep, no burn in.
>>741063869i only buy OLED monitors that let me manually pixel cleanor even better, this one i have (gigabyte aorus) starts cleaning every time i power off my pc
>>741074942What if I'm not blasting the screen with pure white picture for 2 years?
>>741063869People always talk about the black purity of OLED, which is nice, but the best bit is easily how good motion is on OLED. No shitty LCD blur from slow pixel response times. So much easier on the eyes.
>>741075072https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p15yH7c5LW0
>>741074942ROFL
>>741074942that's the ugly truth of "dood I've used my panel for six trillion years and there's no burn in"ofcourse, what do you think the pixel refreshing does? it adjusts voltage to wear down the brighter pixels so the panel looks more uniform but you will lose brightness
>>741071934>/v/: ''You don’t get it, dude. HDR looks beautiful, but only if you buy a spectrometer, tweak Special K and RenoDX, set up sRGB correctly and warm colors, calculate your display’s actual nits, pay for an RTINGS subscription to find your TV’s real color profile, and install the right ReShade and Nexus Mods HDR fixes. Oh, and btw you can’t really do this on Windows 10 or Linux. You need Windows 11 and an NVIDIA GPU. Got AMD? You’re fucked. And you have to play in a room as dark as outer space, because if even a nanometer of sunlight gets in, the HDR magic is gone. I swear HDR isn’t a cult, man. HDR is beautiful. It’s the future.''
>>741075142>6 hours a day>black screen saver>70% brightnessDo OLEDfags really?
I'm sorry, are we pretending that LCDs don't degrade when you abuse them as well?
>>741075142>>741074942>>741075193The CCFL backlight in your precious LCD monitor will also decrease in brightness.
>>741075193I use 100% brightness in HDR and about 50% in SDR. Windows+Alt+B switches between them, only takes a second.
>>741075286>CCFLwhat year is this?
>>741075185Pixel cleaning and pixel refresh are not the same thing. Pixel refresh is only done once in like every 1000 hours. Pixel cleaning is done usually every 4-6 hours, and has no such impact.
>>741075212>>741075286The LCDs have more headroom and typically have a lifespan of 10 to 15 years
>>741075386>Pixel cleaning is done usually every 4-6 hoursWhat sort of poverty tier panel needs this every 4-6 hours.
>>741075386that's why I specifically wrote pixel refresh not pixel cleaningI don't know what you're getting at, either way you will have refresh done over a period of time
>>741075190heh shouldnt have been poor
>>741063869unless you have a decade old oled burn in doesn't exist get new material poor thirdie. I've had my oled for 4 years hardly ever turn it off and have a crosshair on when I'm playing for several hours everyday and still zero burn in
>>741075396Are you really telling me you go 10-15 years without replacing a monitor?
>>741075436Asus ROG Strix XG27UCDMG
>>741064154whoa, no reason to get hostile anon
>>741075510I've been using the same LCD TV for 20 years.
>>741075495>burn in doesn't existBurn-in is literally inherent to OLED. It's the physical nature of how they work. From the very first moment it is turned on, there is burn-in happening. You can slow it down, but it's still happening constantly.There's a reason why 9/10 times when people say "I have no burn-in" it's from someone who has only had their monitor for like 2-3 years and they only use it like 4-5 hours every day or every other day.
>>741065128nigga what?? will there be a problem if I just cleaned it with wet wipes or something? which coating??
>>741063869Sour grapes: the thread.
>>741075703Suck my burn-in free weenus >>741075051
>>741075698>I've been using the same LCD TV for 20 years.Why? Do you enjoy things looking like shit? Old LCDs look god fucking awful compared with new ones, and even then they get outdone by OLEDs. I wouldn't want a monitor without freesync/g-sync these days either.
>>741075752Do you live in a cave?
>>741075793Night shift life
>>741074942I already use my brand new OLED on 25% brightness so I'm good for a few yearsHopefully by that time they will finally import the good Chinese mini leds with more than a 1k zones
By the time the burn in hits me, I'd be ready to upgrade my setup anyways??? How long are you jeets keeping a monitor?
>>741063869Funny how they went big into the BLACKS at the detriment of the WHITES.I didn't go to OLED because I use my TV as a PC monitor 15h a day. Not only I don't trust the "b-but there's no burning, see, there's this pixel shift program that makes the image offset by 3 pixels" as if that would change anything when my windows taskbar or browser headbar is 200px wide anyway, but also because popping up the Google homepage and see the screen forcibly dim itself to retardedly low levels made my NOPE the fuck out.My X55900E is close to being 10 years old running 15h a day, it'll be time to change so I get higher refresh rate and shit. Next TV will be the Bravia 9 II True RGB.
>>741075510NTA but I kept using a 4k60 32" VA panel with freesync until this weekI'm really lazy tho and the tech constantly kept changing with a bunch of led memes going on so w/eI bought a 4k QD miniled and a 4k oled monitor
>>741075752>13253 hoursIf you have your computer on for 12 hours daily, that's only 3 years. So you just proved my point, and we also don't even know if you actually do have any burn-in or if you are just lying or you just can't notice it.
>>741075772My monitors are mini-led LCD. I don't see a reason to replace.
>>741075930>NTA but I kept using a 4k60 32" VA panel with freesync until this weekHow old is that? Can't be more than 10 years, surely.
>>741075947>If you have your computer on for 12 hours daily, that's only 3 yearsThe absolute cope lmao. It's coming into its 6th year. What sort of jobless neet degen is playing games for 12 hours a day?
>>741075924>I'd be ready to upgrade my setup anyways???Why do zoomers use question marks after making statements?
>>741076041I bought it in 2017 with a 1080 ti founders so 9 years or thereabouts
>>741076058>It's coming into its 6th yearSo you only have your computer turned on for 6 hours per day? Yeah, we can safely discard your opinion from this discussion. Of course your OLED monitor will last a long time if you don't even use it.
>>741075729it's fucking over, I probably fucked my OLED screen
>>741075212I don't abuse my monitor but after nearly 25k hours backlight uniformity got worse, it's mostly visible with very dark movies/games.
For me its the VIEWSONIC xg2431The bestest screen
>>741076061>>741076061It indicates confusion, grandpa. Let's get you back to facebook where they still use motivationals for memes.
>>741075992>My monitors are mini-led LCD. I don't see a reason to replace.Mini-LED is pretty new, so either it's not mini-LED, or it's not old.>>741076080>I bought it in 2017 with a 1080 ti founders so 9 years or thereaboutsThat's fair. What did you replace it with? I have a BenQ 1440p 165Hz VA monitor, and more recently got an Alienware 1440p 280Hz OLED, and the OLED beats it in every way.
>>7410761038 hours work, 8 hours sleep, what the fuck are you doing with your life where you can spend 6 hours a day gaming
>>741064154>snoys onlyfake enthusiast that looked up "best CRTs" on reddit
>>741076231>It indicates confusion, grandpaIf anything, it indicates either someone who is completely uneducated, or someone who is a female or gay. I've never seen a straight man write multiple question marks after a statement.
>>741076367Ok boomer
>>741063869Still happy with my MSI 2k VA 144hz monitor from 5 years ago.
>>741076278>8 hours work, 8 hours sleepThat's 16 hours. There's 8 more hours in the day.>what the fuck are you doing with your life where you can spend 6 hours a day gamingWorking from home for 5-6 hours 4 days a week. The real question is what the fuck are you doing with your life where you CAN'T spend 6 hours a day gaming?
>>741076236TCL 32R84 miniled and FO32U2P oledI like that gigashit included dp 2.1 so I won't have to use DSC on it since I'm on a 5080
>>741063869>dont tell me you fell for the OLED memeYes I did actually, LG C3, no burn in, it bothered me to update it, I did like once or twice after buying it then stopped because I can't be fucked so I haven't update it in like 2+ years. Never asked for a pixel clean once as far as I remember. Still works.
>>741076451>he didn't even attempt to deny that he exudes uneducated/female/gay energy because he knows it's true
>>741076573>I like that gigashit included dp 2.1 so I won't have to use DSC on it since I'm on a 5080Baffles me when manufacturers are cheap assholes and use 1.4a for whatever fucking reason. How does it cope with high contrast? I saw their marketing stuff talks about their 'halo eliminator.'
>>741076615ok boomer
>>741064781How is this monitor? I really want to buy this specific monitor to replace my Acer Predator (TN panel). It looks very nice but my current old PC struggles to run 1440p/144fps. I really want to upgrade my monitor but not my PC in this market.
>>741063869>Looks like shit: Soul>Looks good: SoullessAppropriately memed my friend, well reditted
Never going back to inferior displays after OLED. My high-end IPS from 2015 started having image retention by 2020.
>>741063869>It's the weekly "I AM FUCKING POOR" thread
>>741076719I don't know, contrast seems like what a typical QD-OLED panel would outputas for "halo eliminator" it's worthless gamer junk to brighten darker areas on screen, I never use itfrom what I've read online before I bought it was that as long as you use dp 2.1 you're golden because DSC is ass on this panel (you can always use a lower refresh if you're stuck at dp 1.4 but ymmv)
pop the warranty before it expiresgg
>>741063869this whole thing just comes across as an untreated mental illnesswhen I need a new screen I go to my local store and buy whatever seems good for the price can't believe there's niggas out there overanalyzing a fucking screen lmao
>>741065519FakeHDR is just the oversaturation that people complained about when IPS was new. If something was made for SDR, play it like that.
>>741077073You're a pig in shit anon
>spend 1k on a fancy HDR screen>refuses to use W11 autoHDRok
>>741077104and you need to obsessively tell yourself you got the optimal product before you can enjoy life just comes across as neurotic and very lacking in mental flexibility lol
>>741077146>W11 autoHDRWhat is that?
>>741065239>WOLED panel>only 120hz Shit for a gaming monitor.
>>741077195like frames, fake
>Wanted powerful PC gaming set-up for a long time >Finally got it >Icing on the cake was getting an OLED monitor I don't even care, OP. I now have a strong gaming rig and an OLED monitor. A dream has come to life. I got so tired of gaming on a low-mid tier PC, having to run things at medium-high settings at 1080p, having to run DLSS on balanced or performance mode, only having 8GB of VRAM, couldn't use RTX or any other visual features, etc. I now have 16GB of VRAM, can run things on DLAA/quality mode on max settings, I can run RTX now also path tracing, and easily get 60+ FPS at 1440p. People just won't understand until they've experienced the upgrade of not having to use DLSS performance mode and being able to play games on higher graphical settings. I don't even care that I sound like a PC MASTER RACE snob, because I guess I am now. Is PC gaming expensive. Yes. Yes, it is, and if you're okay with what you have then I envy you in a way, because I just wasn't happy gaming on a low-med range rig. An XSX or PS5 was actually stronger than my last PC set-up, so I gamed on PS5 for at least a good 2-3 years because there was no reason to play games on my old PC when the PS5 ran it better. We know the PS5 runs games usually on balanced/performance mode with medium tier settings usually. You can switch to quality mode to get slightly better visuals, but it'll lock every game to 30FPS, and I refuse to play at 30FPS. And I am not shilling out $900 for a PS5 Pro, which I think is a scam anyway. The PS5 Pro struggles to hit 60 FPS in quality mode on some games still to this day, and even current games that just came out.
>>741077236Does your monitor have black frame insertion for absolutely PERFECT motion clarity anon? Besides, you can't drive many games at 4k/120 anyway, even with my 4090.The biggest problem is that it's 48 inches wide and needs a corner desk to use.
>>741077146but autohdr is not even real hdr, it's pretty shit once you've used renodxanyway I only play sp vidya so I take some time to setup renodx and be done with it
>>741077085I found it very funny that Starfield decided to make sure it has of all fucking things fake HDR. As if it needed another nail in the coffin. It's even worse that it's not even toggleable. That's what a space game really needed: terrible contrast and oversaturation.
>>741077341>Does your monitor have black frame insertion for absolutely PERFECT motion clarity anon?No, but it has 360hz. Native at 240 or higher is a completely different game. You don't need BFI at those numbers.>Besides, you can't drive many games at 4k/120 anyway, even with my 4090.That's why my monitor is 1440p and my TV is 4K. The framerate and colors are more important for games. If Nvidia decides to make a real 4K card while they're still making consumer grade cards, then I'll get a 4K monitor, otherwise I'm not playing at sub-120fps.
>>741077490framegen slop the fuck up boi
True blacks are unnatural and fake
>>741077490I don't play FPS, I see no need for anything past 120/144 with good motion clarity.
>>741076103>So you only have your computer turned on for 6 hours per day? Yeah, we can safely discard your opinion from this discussion. >D-Doesn't count lmao
Thinking a wider range of color depth is "soulless" is simply poorfag cope or an oldfag who can't appreciate anything but his past nostalgia.
>>741077618Never.>>741077673You never play anything in first person, or any action games, or platformers or racing games or even open world action RPGs?
>>741077814>oled provides wider color rangemisconceptionhdr provides more shades between bright and dark
>>741077856>ou never play anything in first person, or any action games, or platformers or racing games or even open world action RPGs?I do, and they all look great in 4k/ultra/120fps with BFI
>55" LG C3 >27" 1440p 240hz OLED >27" 1440p 165 IPS >pc connected to all 3 feels good man. imagine gaming on anything but a PC with an OLED
>>741071534have you even seen what 200fps looks like?
>>741077938And they all look and feel better at 240+.
>>741077916Maybe, but OPs image is comparing an image with less color to one with more and shitting on the less detailed image simply for having less detail.
>>741077950>1440pImagine gaming on PC with a resolution below consoles.
>>741078003Nigger did you read the top line of the post
>>741077991*shitting on the more detailed image
>>741077950good thing the first thing i listed is 4k then
The arguments for OLED burn in being a problem with long use don't really make sense since it still takes years. If you use your monitor a lot it's more justifiable to buy a new one in 4-5 years even if burn in was a real problem (it isn't btw). Why would you subject yourself to shitty picture for almost a decade waiting for new technology while seething at OLED the whole time? It's not even that much more expensive and is easily the most enjoyable upgrade for the money
>>7410779831440p is noticeably shit on a large screen.
>>741078003Enjoy your fake pixels and fake frames.
>>741078053meant for >>741078003
how are we not decisively past OLED yet
>>741078082That's why my big TV is 4K and my monitor is 27". Low framerates for games are always shit.
>>741078129i honestly kekd. it'll get to your village one day, Sandeep.
>broooo these blacks in this image? there are very very slightly not true BLACKS.>This totally justifies all the downsides like less sharp looking images, windows text looking all fucked up, fucking burn in
Blacks on my Samsung VA look way better than IPS and I don't have to worry about burn-in, no need for OLED yet
>>74107815227" is about peak for a monitor anyway. Used 32" and it felt too big.
>BLACKS at the detriment of WHITES
>>741078232>less sharp looking imagesthat's a function of resolution and viewing distance, not panel tech>windows text looking all fucked upyou're sitting too close to the screen>fucking burn indo you know how easy it is to adopt basic precautions against it?
>>741078297You get used to it in a few days
>>741063869I wanna cum in that honey
>>741078341You should have mentioned less ghosting or something because those points you made are cope
>>741075051How many refresh cycles have you suffered?
>>741078379>honey
>>741078297>Used 32" and it felt too big.I'm still planning on moving up to 4K 32" when they start making them with framerates as high as the 1440p models now. Might grab a 5090 super since that feels like the last real GPU Nvidia will make.
>>741069692Made me check. 1700 out of 4000 phones have had OLED since 2020Bit less than I thought です
Don't care. I'm still buying 4k 32" 360Hz OLED next year.
>39 inch RGB Stripe OLED>5120 x 2880 @ 165 hz (1920 x 1080 @ 330 hz)>1300 nits peak brightness HDR>true black 500 / Dolby Vision>$1099 usd MSRPtrue end game monitor about to come out soon
>>7410784153 or 4, can't really remember.
>>741078393>i don't know how to use a monitor so you're coping by teaching me!!!for every inch of the monitor you should be sitting 2cm away for 4k, 3cm away for 1440p and 4cm away for 1080p
>>741078567Ultrawide kinda scares me since support can be so shit
>>741078567>5120 x 2880It's 5120x2160.
>>741075510Please understand Anon.You are arguing with people on decades old tech. Said tech looked worse on day 1 than the worst of current tech they could buy, let it be LCD or OLED. Theirs of course further degraded when they used it for countless hours.>These are the people who worry your panel might look worse eventually and might not live for a decade.I'm the guy who buys new shit every year but anyone who proudly stares at an ancient panel (You know because it is not like your EYES are important or anything) is not someone you should argue with.These people are just trying to justify why are they retarded. Because this is not about being poor, a decent panel is dirt cheap. It is about being insane.
>>741063869I have an Asus Republic of Gamers Swift PG27UCDM, and I am quite pleased with it.
>>741078839oh right, good catch
>>741078353>You get used to it in a few daysNope. I regretted going 32. It's why my previous monitor was 32, and my current is 27.>>741078468Your call, I found 32 uncomfortable.>>741078901You're right anon. Those old panels really do like shit compared to modern ones.
Some people still use 1080p monitors.
>>741078567This shit will be 899 at Christmas and an incredible buy. LG cooked
>>741079129>Your call, I found 32 uncomfortable.Worst comes to worst, I'll just wall mount it which would set it back another 6 inches from where my monitor sits currently.
>>741063869>poorfag copeThis grapes were sour anyway, Mr. Fox.
>>741079297>Worst comes to worst, I'll just wall mount it which would set it back another 6 inches from where my monitor sits currently.Fair enough. Yeah I had the 32" curved BenQ monitor. It was a VA panel and it's pretty good, but I wanted an OLED for the true blacks and amazing colours. The motion clarity was something else though.
>>741079747>The motion clarity was something else though.Going from 60 to 165 and then up again to 360 was certainly an experience. Most games won't really go above 200 just because of the engine itself, but even the 200-240 feels so fucking good. I want my games to all feel like that.
>>741078567165 hz horseshit and no BFI.Trash.Imagine spending a grand on that shit
>>741075190when you're a brainlet even the most mundane task can appear complicated
>>741063869if the black on the right is blacker than the left then how come i can see it
>>741080463165hz is more than enough for that monitor, faggot. t. 240hz owner
>>741071121All reviewers "shill" OLED because they're the best panels around.
>>741065183115 inches is tiny now
>>741080573It's not a multiple of 30/60, which means at 165hz all day you won't get correct framepacing on most apps and videos running windowed.That's why this shit sucks. It should be 120hz or 180hz or 240hz anything inbetween is a fucking meme.Also an oled without BFI with only 165hz is a waste of it's response times.
>>741080510Not him and it's not complicated, but most games have shit HDR support and I'm not upgrading to Windows 11 for the auto HDR.
>>741078129>how are we not decisively past OLED yetWe practically are. The new miniLED monitors coming out at the end of the year and next year will probably bury OLED monitors.
>>741077490>Native at 240 or higher is a completely different game. You don't need BFI at those numbers.You need 240 with BFI on an LCD to match OLED without BFI at 120 Hz in motion clarity. If you want CRT-like motion clarity you need to use BFI on an OLED.
>>741063869no but I fell for the MiniLED meme. It's great for TVs but shit for monitors.
>>741063869I was getting bored of my laptop's OLED panel recently for its relative lack of brightness compared to other HDR panel types. I trialed a few other types including HDR LCD, QLED, mini-LED, some of which were significantly brighter. And they were interesting for a while, but it always felt like there was something missing from the picture, nothing looked deep or engaging. When I went back to OLED everything just looked astounding. I came to the conclusion that no amount of peak brightness can compensate for the depth offered by OLED black levels and per-pixel lighting and that this is the only legitimate way to experience HDR.
>>741080463>165 hz horseshit and no BFI.You start running into bandwidth issues at high frequencies like 5K2K/240 and expecting monitor manufacturers to include a proper internal BFI solution is pure fantasy as even LG has dropped it since the C1.
>>741078567>true end game monitor about to come out soonWhy would you pick this over any of the upcoming miniLED 5k with 1440p 330-360hz dual mode, 2300 zones and 1500-2000 nits?
>>741080859Making OLED panels brighter has proven to be much easier than making LCDs match OLED in image quality.
>>741081174Because it doesn't have perfect blacks like an OLED.
>>741080645>low brightness>5000 hour lifespan before burn-in>best panels aroundLOLLMAO even
>>741080814>If you want CRT-like motion clarity you need to use BFI on an OLED.I wish there was a way to show you what the UFO test looks like on my 360hz OLED monitor without BFI.
>>741081293suck my cock poorfag>>741075051
i'm literally bottlenecked by cable technologyi want a 4k 500hz ultrawide oled with strobing and you physically can't make those yet
>>741081293The brightness is more than high enough for indoor usage, especially since OLED panels do get up to 1000 nits locally which is more than enough in real world usage. Full-panel brightness is an outright meme and I genuinely hope you aren't blasting yourself with full white screens to cope with your $2000 IPS purchase.
>>741081335a good mini led costs as much as an oled you stupid faggot lmao
>>741081349is gigashite still the only one around to offer dp 2.1? lmao
>>741081349what windows theme is that
>>741081174miniled is still a va lcd panel, so you don't get the response times of an oled. and you'll still get halos even with 2k zones that aren't physically possible on an oled
>>741081421oh boy a whole 1000 nits!!!!my MiniLED gets up to 5000 btw
>>741081275>Because it doesn't have perfect blacks like an OLED.So you'd take burn-in, having to baby your monitor constantly, and lower brightness, over getting a monitor with none of those downsides, but the blacks are maybe 2% off from OLED?
>>741081612congrats, my eyes hurt even at 1000 so I hope you play in a well-lit room at all times.
>>741063869this is how miniled looks, like an in-between result
>>741081421nah, 250 nits fullscreen brightness is pure ass for usage during the day with some sunlightI have both oled and miniled monitors and oled is not usable during the day for me
>>741081571Mini-LEDs can be IPS panels too but the point still stands that the response time is shit. They're good for static content, I'm actually posting this on a 2000 zone mini-LED I have for work.
>>741081676you 100% do not notice with your actual eyes the camera exacerbates it
>>741081421>>741081612>using 1000 nits>using 5000 nitsI WEAR MY SUNGLASSES AT NIGHT
>>741081461that was the only one i found back when i was shopping for a new monitor in january>>741081541that's linux, old steam theme with kde with ubuntu fonts
>>741081676cool bullshit image brolink me to that video and I'll show you what it looks like on a 2026 MiniLED
>>741081652>but the blacks are maybe 2% off from OLED?Not in a dark room or with widescreen cinema. It's noticeable. Same with light bloom.
>>741081652yes because your entire argument is founded on cope>having to baby your monitor constantlyi literally press power on it when i want to play a game or watch a movie, and press power on it when i'm done. zero thought or effort behind it. it's a gaming monitor that i only use for gaming.
>>741081085That's a good point, but with DP2.1 wouldn't it fit at 180hz?Anyway If we're talking ultrawide oled this is the best one I've found, 1440p 360hz, has a 120hz BFI mode, has decent blacks for QD Oled.If my current work display broke I would order this one, at least, even if I have the C1 anyway
>>741081790I guess if you watch movies in the dark on your monitor and you want absolute pitch black then OLED makes more sense.
>>741081776https://youtu.be/njX2bu-_Vw4?t=47
>>741081349You could do 4k 500Hz 10-bit with DP2.1 and DSC. Just wait 3-4 more years.
>>741081873Yeah it's almost like there's a good use case for both technologies or something
>>741081801>yes because your entire argument is founded on copeUh huh. It's totally cope that everyone, including manufacturers, recommend that you use a black background, hide taskbar, use pixel shifting, use pixel refreshing, don't play the same game or use the same programs that have UI elements in the same places for too long, be careful when and how you wipe the monitor, etc.>it's a gaming monitor that i only use for gamingAnd let me guess, you only play video games 2-4 hours per day.
>>741081652the backlight still washes out the color somewhat
>>741081349>i want a 4k 500hz ultrawide oled with strobingbut why?
>>741081886aight gimme 5 minutes
>>741078567Would it even be possible to run this on DP 1.4?
>>741081421I find it hard to believe there are people that are playing games in a room with the windows open or lights on. My OLED is set to true black 400 with the brightness at about half and if a pure white scene comes on in something I'm watching, it's completely blinding. Is everyone else some kind of retarded boomer with the living room windows open and sun hitting the screen directly who also has the lights on?
>>741082030>It's totally copecorrect. fuck i love not being poor!
>>741082127I'd give up gaming entirely for but one 'eve with my goddess aqua
>>741064154>vvvvvFWWOOOSHHHVMMMMMMMMeeeeeiiiithat startup noise of crt tv's will make me cum out of nostalgia when I am der boomer in 40 years
>>741082295Without HDR, yes.With HDR you would need to lower the refresh rate to 144Hz.DSC enabled obviously.
>>741078567>ultrawide
>>741082568Neat. My 4090 might get a few more gens in it after all.
>>741077195An inverse tonemapper (RTX HDR is the same thing). It takes an SDR image and basically guesstimates what parts should be brighter than others to give a sorta-kinda-maybe HDR image. It isn't great but has its uses - the more contrast a game has the more effective autoHDR solutions become as iirc that is primarily how they guess what should be bright or not.I tried it once in need for speed underground 2 and it worked pretty well.
>>741082419>fuck i love not being poor!Why do people like you act like a $600-$1000 OLED monitor is some huge investment?
>>741082413Boomers should've been accustomed to turning down the lights as CRTs weren't very bright at all. I suspect it's some millenial that never owned a CRT themselves.
>>741082127because that's where my research led me500hz because the doubling from 250 to 500 isn't that impressive and another doubling to 1000 isn't going to change much either, maybe in 20 years but by then my eyes really won't be good enough to make use of itstrobing because it improves clarity at lower refresh ratesoled because it looks bestultrawide because i want to see more horizontal spaceand 4k because that's the distance at which your monitor can fill the entire space seen by both eyes while preserving 60 ppd
>>741082743you can get one for like $350 now which makes it even sadder how hard you faggots are still coping, correct
>>741081886
>>741082508That's easy.BUT, Would you finish your backlog for her or is that going too far?
>>741082794>$350Doubtful, that's on the low side.Got my Alienware 1440p 280hz OLED for around £400.
>>741082796yeah, that looks better, but there are still some areas that aren't pure black
>>741082794>which makes it even sadder how hard you faggots are still copingIf anyone is coping, it seems to be you, considering that you're sperging out over how miniLED monitors have finally caught up.
>>741082796Why there are some cum stains on your monitor?
>>741082936nigger, we've had anti-OLED whining since they came out and miniLED are ONLY NOW starting to catch up
Now a good time to buy 4K OLED or wait for that new announced PG32UCWM?
>>741083007it's not my monitor, it's a 75 inch TCL SQD MiniLED. Those white things are pictures on the wall in front of the tv>>741082929those are reflections in the room silly
>>741083082just wait at this point
>>741082902no anon, this is how much money these broke faggots are crying about
>>741083082The asus tax stings but that is likely to be a very good screen. All depends on how much more it costs than current gen offerings.
>>741083082Wait until the end of the year where all the new miniLEDs are coming out. Either the new miniLEDs are better than current OLEDs or it will cause current OLED prices to come down because the miniLEDs are equal.
>>741083136>TCLlmao nigger WHY ARE YOU SO POOR?
>>741083082I'm waiting for more monitors with this panel.But those will come out after CES next year.
>>741082796NOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT HAVE A BRIGHT PANEL AND GOOD BLACKS AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>741083082There's always better monitors coming out. Pick a resolution, VHz and aspect ratio and look out for deals.
>>741083278it's a $1000 tv son
>>741063869How come I can see the difference on my LCD?>inb4 don't believe your lying eyes
I'm waiting for a trueblack 1000 screen to exist for my next upgrade.
>>741083136>perfectly knows layout of the room>not my cum-stainsyour boyfriend's?
>>741083362because you don't understand what oled is supposed to look liketurn off your monitorthat's what oled looks like when you look at a black canvas in paintcompare that black canvas to the screen being off
>>741083404no your dad's
>>741083278Not the guy you are replying to but high-end TCL televisions are actually amazing these days and literally rival high-end Samsung and Sony televisions. They are no longer just some cheap chinese brand.
>>741083427Ok, I did that and it looked the same.Now what?
>>741083452shh don't let the drooling retards know, gatekeep as much as you can
>>741083442You have cum stains on your TV and are into necrophilia? Damn, some really creepy stuff.
>>741083452You can look at it from another perspective.High end TVs in general are still using cheap components and they are as likely to fail as low end products from the same manufacturer.
>>741083514what'd the fat ugly faggot have to say when you turned your monitor off?
>>741083514then it's either a miniled or you're lying or stupid
>>741063869>buy into the oled meme>buy a woled>cant do dark colors>everycolor looks wrong, especially reds>windows dosnt support HDR for shit>everything is red tinted, blacks are basically pink>cant do gray colors properly due to vertical bandingliterally the worst monitor i ever had, looks 10x worse than cheapest IPS in dark scenesthere is a reason shills only show full blacks
>>741083753>>741083791Yep, typical answer from the cult.
Why are OLED monitors still so expensive? We can already get cheap phones with OLED panels but not computer monitors for some reason
I bought an OLED and I wish I would have got Mini-LED for vidya.
>>741083873>a cult of people who enjoy using what is objectively the best quality displaywow, what sick deranged fucks.
>>741083928I own a MiniLED monitor and it's ass for computer use. Pretty good for games and movies though.
>>741083892see >>741083205
>>741083823How stupid do you need to be to hold onto a defective monitor without turning it in for a replacement? Genuine question. Give me some IQ numbers because I'm sure your public school put you through the tests.
>>741083964>n-no it look better believe me! the merchant who sold me told me it's true! your eyes lie!Yup, it's a cult.At least the CRT fags aren't delusional like you guys.
>>741083823>buy into the oled meme>buy a woled>perfect dark colours>every colour looks right>use HDR calibration so it would look right>everything is as it should be, blacks are black>can do gray colours properlyliterally the best monitor I ever had, looks 100x better than the most expensive IPS in dark scenes
>>741083873>you're a cultist because someone is arguing they have some magical lcd that somehow defies reality
fuck you steak cultists - a big mac is all you need.
OLED > CRT >>> mini-LED >> rest of the LCD dogshitt. QD-OLED monitor, WOLED TV, mini-LED laptop, IPS secondary screen, 17k hour CRT
27-32" mini-led needs +40K zones to mimic oled at reasonable level
>>741083136>those are reflections in the room sillythese aren't
>>741065128obviously everyone uses either one use cloths specifically to clean monitors without residue, or microfiber + a cleaning agent that evaporates without leaving residue like alcoholmy "monitor antistatic cleaning agent" has isopropanyl since it just works
>>741064032OLED>phone>monitor>watch>laptop>tablet>TVNot OLED (trash)>...
>>741084029>defectivelolevery woled look like thisits ever described on oled shill central like rtings website, and they call it a "minor problem"
>>741084302>every woled look like thisUnluckily for you I own a WOLED and it doesn't look like that because it isn't defective.
>>741084302>>741084389every, huh...
If you want to experience true soul, get a VR headset.
>>741063869I will boughted a samsung odyssey 3d
>>741084582now drop it to 5% and lower, actual dark greys
>>741084669I have two OLED VR headsets.
>>741082796I'm excited for miniled pulsars display. There's already some laptops with it.Too bad HDR is a massive pain in the ass to set up but I'll manage. As much as I love and currently enjoy Oled TVs, I'll never use an oled as a work/browsing monitor, that's just too risky.
>>741084743Which one? I want a good vr set but the only good one is the quest 3 apparently, that's not oled though.
>>741085382Pulsar right now is just a rolling backlight strobe and mini-LED wouldn't change that.
>>741085581PSVR1 which I got for 100€ to test the tech and PSVR2 that I got for PC for 300€. They're fine I guess but I end up never using them because of the setup time. I wouldn't spend more than the 300ish I spent on the PSVR2 either due to VR in general not getting a lot of support, but your mileage may vary depending on how much you spend playing VR compatible games.
>>741063998t. Bantu
