.
why?
>>741067064Mold Man is killing all games. Better stock up now.
it's already worthless when every game has day 0 patches
>Fill your house with useless plastic
>>741067095who?
There's nothing new worth buying on physical media.
>Noooooo!!!! The corporations might steal my games!!!As if. The trust they'd lose wouldn't be worth the shekels they'd make trying to get everyone to buy their games again.
last physical thing I ever bought was street fighter 5 but only because I needed to bring it over to a friend's houseI literally don't even remember the last physical thing I bought for myself only
>>741067035>buy a physical game>internet connection is required to play it
>>741067095Just kill him first
yikes
this is now a collection rate thread
>try to buy physical media>the only thing in the case is a slip of paper with a Steam code printed on itWhat now?
>>741067035Physical media = disc/card reader lock-in (= DRM) = NO COPIES -> medium or read breaks = NO GAME = NO OWNERSHIPDigital media + no DRM (GoG) / cracks / patchers = Infinite backup copies = OWNERSHIPWhy are gamers so retarded not to get this?
>>741067035Do they exist yet? Even your beloved nintedo phased out it
>>741067450Get a refund.
>>741067035The ruling class psyoped people into thinking ownership is bad.What you own your car, condo, house, land etcYes I do
>>741067497This. The issue is DRM. Not what medium it's on.
>>741067035>buyNo thanks. I will just pirate it
>>741067506No they didn't. All the big first party Nintendo games are available physically.
No, i'd rather buy air from old fat gabe.
>>741067035>pirate digital mediaftfy
>>741067546i own my games with no middleman and have backups but there is no reason to store them on cds or other inefficient devices, i keep them in drives, your analogy is wrong and "physical media" are just for goy who want to display dogshit tacky plastic in their houselook, there's one now: >>741067304
>>741067035>put physical media in console >"you need to be online to verify and proceed"what do?
>>741067664Homebrew console, everyone should start homebrewing their consoles until these corpos stop fucking with us.
>>741067664What consoles do this?Never found anything i couldn't play on Switch.
Why do corporations insist on not just having a strangehold on copyright law but how you, the customer can access the media you pay for?
>>741067035Physical used to mean something.Consoles are just pure cancer these days, don't even own the hardware itself.
>>741067497Ownership means you can sell, trade and lend the things you own you mongoloid.
>>741068168>retard didn't say use the things you ownKill yourself.
>>741068168I swear physical fags are all mouth breathers.
>>741068291Yup, that's a rental disc.
>>741067035No thanks, I don't want a bunch of junk cluttering up my home.
>>741067654>i own my games with no middleman and have backups but there is no reason to store them on cds or other inefficient devices, i keep them in drives, your analogy is wrong and "physical media" are just for goy who want to display dogshit tacky plastic in their houselook, there's one nowHigh grade discs are rated for 50-100+ years for storage unlike your shitty Seagate or Western digital hdd.
>>7410670351s and 0s you read with a laser are actually indistinguishable from 1s and 0s received over radio.
>>741068436Then why do you care either way?
>>741068291Thanks for confirming you are retarded.
>>741067749>Never found anything i couldn't play on Switch.besides good games?
>>741068558>Moves goalpostsCute!So what first party games don't run without an internet connection?
>>741068413>game developer stores something on a harddrive chucks it into a corner shits fucking gone, if it survives its usually on a disc
>>741068595all of them
>>741068761Wrong.
>>741067035not buying your bag, sorry
>>741068168read the fineprint on the box, retard
>>741068876Sure, which bit specifically are you referring to?
>>7410670953 days. Tick tock
>>741067035I buy on GOG and then download the offline installers on my external drives. IMO this is better than buying a DVD/CD since i can easily make multiple copies of my GOG games and not worry about plastic rot.
Why do jeets and Gen Z vermin hate physical media so much?
>>741068980I do this with physical media too.
>>741067035Based Tom
>>741068168I don't know if you're aware but your children can inherit your GOG library in the EU. So you do in fact own your GOG games. Not sure how are the laws in other places but i know that the games i bought on GOG and that my GOG account can effectively outlive me and be played by my kids and grandkids.
>>741069003They want you to subscribe to their shitty cloud slop that can get knocked out by whatever country can spam drones. Cant wait for microslop to release some new ahci & raid driver that slaughters god knows how much data
>>741069003Weren't you in that thread of the amputee fetish artist?
>>741067304NO NOT THESE GAMES
>>741069164Ownership for me, subscriptions for the pleb the eternal renters.
>>741067035only for some stuff I enjoy i'm not a fuck hoard collector.
you will own nothing and be happy
>>741067035fuck you nintendohttps://nintendoeverything.com/nintendo-clarifies-switch-2-pricing-changes-in-new-statement-says-physical-prices-arent-going-up/
>>741069664>Physical prices aren't going upBased Nintendo
>>741067035learn how to fucking torrent
>>741069003First you've got the group that want to collect who are mad they missed out on retro collections before they hit hundreds and thousands of dollars. You can spot these by the pure seethe in the replies.Then you've got the true thirdy poorfags who unashamedly show off the hard drive they barely managed to afford like it's some kind of sacred treasure. This second group likes to try and gaslight about the longevity of physical media, even though their ROMs are on a device with an even shorter lifespan.
>>741069730>Use physical media to get legal back-ups and rips on my hard driveBest of both worlds.
>>741067035pirate digital media
>>741067035just piratecan't pirate certain games?play something elseyou have infinite choices
>>741069730>>741069787always backup you copyalways
>>741069829i found my childhood games on gog, will dl the ones that are precious to me
>>741069690thats just step 1 of the plan. step 1 is to undercut all the physical stores until they go extinct. step 2 is to raise overall prices with their lack of store competition. nothing new from the industry playbook.
>>741069829Correct
>>741069309>look it up>it's real
>>741069003Hilariously wrong. Zoom zooms are bringing back physical media.https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2026-02-23/why-gen-z-wants-to-buy-rent-dvds-blu-rays-in-age-of-streamingZoomers think physical = unrestricted ownership. They weren't around for physical media that had malware-level DRM on it, so they don't realize the medium doesn't matter.
>>741070201I can't think of a single piece of physical media that isn't rippable.
>>741070321>if you modify something to remove the restrictions, then the restrictions don't matterOkay? You can do that with digital copies as well. So the initial purchase medium is pointless.
>>741070436>Supporting the products you like (financially) is "pointless"Then just pirate. I don't care what you do.
>>741067654I wonder where did this "my copy is better than your copy" movement started. Is this the zoomer is angry about boomer things becasue they never had them? I go to a Switch forum and some people lose their shit when someone posts their collection.>Nooo, just not the clutter!!!How the fuck did we get here where you are not a true collector unless you keep your pirated games on an SSD. The insecurity holy shit.
>>741070201I love physical media but come on. There is always an article like this in every 6 months and the next yearly report shows how physical media cratered further. These zoomers are drop in the bucket.
>>741070765>Baseless claim>No sourcesok
>>741069003Other than people love to be angry if someone is having fun? They grew up in a streamlined evironment. Everything is just a click away. My nephew loses his shit if a game loads for more than 5 seconds. Physical media requires time and attention to acquire, install, handle etc. Zoomer brain was not made for these hardships.There is also a weird situation with the Switch 2. Since Nintendo cracked down on physicals with game key cards all the blame is falling on them by the colelctor community. Fanboys see this as a threat to their beloved company so they attack their fellow gaymers like they are enemies.
>>741070945>Since Nintendo cracked down on physicals with game key cards?Nintendo did it because third parties begged them to do it, for years. It was on the investor Q&A they did a few months back.
>>741070784Read the link.>Physical media sales declined just 9% in 2025, compared to drops of over 20% in 2023 and 2024, marking a dramatic shift in a shrinking market.Physical market is shrinking drastically every fucking year, not even the article can deny it. All they say it shrunk less than before.Do you know why? Because the smaller it gets the closer it is to the number of collectors who will never give it up. Normal people keep dropping it. Switch held up the majority of physical sales in the ENTIRE video game industry and they had to invent game key cards to kill it in a few years.
>>741070997Nintendo who never did anything for anyone unless their current console was tanking suddenly invented key cards due to pressure. Not because they want to rake in may profit from digital. They also didn't decouple physical and digital sales publicly to discourage people from buying physical because they hate people lend their forever $60-$80 games.
>>741071087>No proof>More baseless claimsOk.
>>741071152None of that irrelevant cope means my statement was incorrect.
>>741071197The proof is real life. Imagine what you want. Zoomers won't save you.
>>741071273Thanks for confirming you have no verifiale sources for your baseles claims.I accept your concession
>>741071236Of course your statement was incorrect. Nintendo lies like every other company. They made game key cards to kill physical media because compared to Steam/Xbox/PS physical sales are crazy high on their platform. There is no other reason for key cards just pure greed.
>>741071443>"It was incorrect!!!">"b-b-because I just want it to be...OKAY????"Sad.
>>741071312Just go out there and look at any kind of yearly report from companies. We both know what you will find. That is why you demand sources when the situation is crystal clear.How about we do the otehr way? Prove that physical media doesn't decline somewhere and you are right. Oh, you can't.
>>741067163/thread
>>741071547>"P-P-PLEQSE PROVE MY CLAIMS FOR ME..."lol no. Burden of proof is yours.>"HOW ABOUT YOU PROVE THIS CLAIM YOU NEVER MADE"Why? Also no.
>>741067035ok
>>741071501I guess you believe the following Nintendo statements too:- the Switch 1 never got a price drop because they couldn't make it cheaper for 9 years- Mario Kart World is a $80 game- BOTW switch 2 edition is a $70 game- Switch 2 carts are unaffordable for companies despite Cyberpunk and Indiana Jones is complete on cart for the same price as GKCsetc.Either you beleive everything Nintendo say or doesn't. Pick your poison.
>>741071639I showed proof, you didn't. The original article told you physical is shrinking. You are seething and trying to attack me instead of arguing. You misundrestand the situation. You lost from the start. I don't need to prove reality further.I accept your concession.
>>741071861>Proves literally zero of his claims>againOk.If you have bo validatable sources, I don't believe your baseless claims. That's literally the definition of a baseless claim.Thanks for cedeing the argument, again.
>>741071941>I showed proof, you didn'tWhat proof did you show? Link it.What proof did I claim to have? Quote my exact words.Or are you just going to keep crying?
I'm not even gonna read anything in this thread because you fucks are retarded.ability to copy/modify > ability to resellPlastic does not bestow some magic onto a game
>>741067163I know how to make it not useless; play games
>>741067035most games i play dont have physical alternatives.
>>741072110Oh! So you backup the games you download?
>>741067169Curtis Yarvin aka Mencius Moldbughe's been behind pretty much every social trend and movement for the past 15 years
>>741068413yeah, rated for something they literally can't test you know, if it wasn't just retarded marketing then they'd actually test it, that's how you prove those ratings
>>741072196but i can do that without the plastic, which means the plastic is useless, my retarded friend.
>>741070538supporting who?when it comes to games the developer only gets 50% from a physical copy as opposed to 70% from a digital oneyou support walmart and chink plastic factories?
>>741072110With physical you get both.
>>741072407Proof? Thanks.
>>741067181>The trust they'd loseAnon nobody trusts them now
>>741067163>bookshelves terrify the zoomer
>>741072397>but i can do that without the plasticNot alwaysit's often out of your controlphysical is the ultimate backupBut fundimentally if option B exists that doesn't just make option A useless, I could use that logic and say the reverse, Because A exists than B is useless. So how can they both be useless?
>>741072514no you don'tall console physical features heavy drm that forbids you from doing that and can't be easily ripped and drm is why physical pc games died
>>741072694Yes I do.>b-b-but DRM!And? I can circumvent it.
>>741072252lolnoNobody cares about you, Curtis.
>>741072654name 3 games that i can no longer player but people who own the physical copy can. keeping in mind that i know how to pirate games.
>>741067035No.
>>741072553common sense
>>741072779So you have no proof of your claims?Thanks for confirming this fact.
>>741072718ok, circumvent switch 2 and ps5 drm right now
>>741072639boomers and millennials on the other hand LOVE stacking shelves with shit they will never use
>>741072821Why? I don't own either console.
>>741072553https://www.serkantoto.com/2020/12/30/price-video-console-game-digital-physical/
>>741069003>Meanwile, in reality, it was soilennials that supported digitalFunny how that works, eh?
>>741072864No part of this article says "the developer only gets 50% from a physical copy as opposed to 70% from a digital one".
>>741072813the proof is empirical.if a game selling for the same price digitally and physically, the digital version will pretty much always earn more money to the dev as the 30-40% share digital stores ask for is incomparable to the share that a manifacturing company is going to ask for.
>>741072925are you stunted?or are you going to cry about the publisher/developer distinction now?
>>741073001So you have no verifiable sources?Then it's a baseless claim, by definition. Thanks for confirming this fact, again
>>741073027Like I said.No part of this says>the developer only gets 50% from a physical copy as opposed to 70% from a digital oneLike was claimed. Why are you crying about this fact?
>>741072854because you claimed you can do that so it's just like digital?but it's fucking not, it's tied up in invasive and constantly updating drm meanwhile steam's drm has been the fucking same for 20 years and they literally don't give a shit about pirates
>>741067035a hard drive stores 1s and 0s just like a cd dvd or bluray, they're physical medias too.
>>74107310149/70= 70%35/70= 50%i'm asking again, are you crying about the developer/publisher distinction?
>>741073116>because you claimed you can do thatWhere did I claim that I can circumvent PS5 and Switch 2 DRM?However, I'm fully confident I will be able to in the future.
>>741067035I would buy more if SSDs and HDDs weren't so expensive.
>>741073162Does that say >the developer only gets 50% from a physical copy as opposed to 70% from a digital oneY/N?
>>741073219yes, if the developer is their own publisher then that's in fact what they getwhat is it retard, are we moving away from crying about steam's cut because you can reframe it to publishers?
>>741073171>i will be able toyou don't have even a fraction of the tech literacy required to develop an anti drm measurejust because you're a shameless egotistical parasite doesn't mean physical drm isn't much worseeven a fucking layman can crack a steam game while it takes thousands of man hours to crack physical console gamesand that really only allows you to play games without steam running or giving it to someone else while console drm locks much more
>>741073287>ESL can't readCute!
>>741073428Stop crying tranny.
>>741073703>if i insult him it means i have an argument!!!cope faggot, the only time the developer doesn't get more money from a digital sale is when the publisher has funded the whole game and has the developer by the ballsaka the worst case scenarioand it's easier to self publish games to steam than any other platform
>>741073703nta, your grammar is much worse than his
>>741073901>physicalcuck has no argument for plastic so he lashes outthere's nothing more troon coded than posting pictures of your plastic collection to reddit to get karma btw
>>741073934>Baseless claimsBack to square 1 huh?
>>741073972>Now he's making up things in his head to get upset aboutTrans-coded behaviour
>>741074098aww look at the little seething baby, has absolutely no grounds to defend physical on so xe throws a tantrum
>>741074339Full circle, huh?see>>741073901
MAKE physical media Love me some pretty artworks to look at.
>>741074061i can't be bothered to actually put effort into this, you're a bad faith retard that's enraged about the prospect of people not obsessing over your collectible garbagehave this ai rebuttal, that's about how much you're worth herethe only time it's not a percentage cut and where physical and digital doesn't matter is on the big soulless garbage when you're working for an IP hoarding slavedriving corpo
physical media is played out sadlystop hoarding plastic junk grandpa boom boom
>>741074515>SometimesThat's your proof that all developers only gets 50% from a physical copy as opposed to 70% from a digital one?That it maybe can happen sometimes? With no source?If you can't prove your own claims true, why the fuck do you expect me to believe them?
>>741068412But you want that junk to clutter you hard drive?
>>741074790Yes, and his solution will be>buy more hard drivesThus cluttering his living space, like he originally intented to avoid.
>>741074713the publisher gets 50% of the sales revenue from a physical copy as opposed to 70% from a digital copyand it's further cut into by physical resellingthe cut is percentage based everywhere outside of big slop games which means developers in fact get 40% more per a digital game salethere we go, this is the objective truth which you can't cry, bitch, seethe and moan your way out ofare we done or will you find more to seethe about in your plastictroon rage?
>>741074790>>741074858You can buy a 26 terabyte external hard drive thats about the size of 4 movie cases put together?
>>741074905You haven't proven happens, like you claim.Again, if you can't prove your own claims true, why do you expect me, or anyone else to believe them?>Are we done?You can forfiet and leave whenever you want. Go ahead.
>>741075095complete esl meltdown lmao, you were fuming when you were typing this outrewrite your post into something legible
>>741075021Sure, it's still a better solution.But the fact is, you probabaly shouldn't be a hoarder, digital or physical, because it inevitably takes up more space than you intended.My brother has a home server and it's getting out of hand in scope now.
>>741071087If thats true then theres no point in buying a game console just invest on gaming pc playstation and xbox are outdated mediums
>>741075136>Dodges the question>twiceDon't do it a third time. I'll repeat myself;>If you can't prove your own claims true, why the fuck do you expect me to believe them?Don't be scared, don't cry, just answer the question you stupid tranny.
>>741071547Playstation also only made 3percent from digitals also
>house is destroyed in gas leak explosion>can't play any of the physical games i supposedly "own" anymore>money stolen
>>741075294Should have made back-ups.
>>741075232what claims do you want to be proven true exactly?the publisher gets a higher share of revenue from digital games since you're not paying the whole supply chain, >>741073027and the publishers have a percentage revenue split with the developers unless the publisher is shouldering literally everything and the developers are just hired grunts >>741074515thus the developer gets more from digital sales since they're getting the same percentage from a higher revenue amountare you still struggling?
>>741067035>buy physical media>look inside>it's just a boot disc but you're still required to download the contentswew thank you anonnext time i want to waste my time i'll just ask your mom for something
>>741072397Yet you don't play your games in digital either and let them rot on your hdd while spending all you're free time arguing on imageboards like a retard
There’s literally no reason to own physical media when you can just download shit onto a harddrive
>>741067035I will not go back to CDs
>>741075167literally all you need is a usb sata connector, bubble wrap and a boxservers are mostly just a larp
>>741072735Pireted games can't be resold
>>741068291You have to be 18 to post here.
>>741075417>what claims do you want to be proven true exactly?The one and only claim I've asked you to prove, stop pretending to not understand to avoid discourse you midwit.Prove this is true across all examples, now, or admit you can't do it.>>741072407>developers only gets 50% from a physical copy as opposed to 70% from a digital one
>>741067035I did up until my ps4 melted one of my discs. Now I only play digital PC games and physical nintendo games, but they don't make games anymore
>>741074426Bubsy of all things got a full edition on switch/2: manual,mini cd , artbook and whatnot
>>741075536>but they don't make games anymorehuh?
>>741073001Digital games are buggy and unfinished
>>741072252>Curtis Yarvin aka Mencius MoldbugDamn there's a name I haven't seen or heard in at least a decade.
>>741075521it is true if you change it to publishersare you still crying about that distinction?i'll simplify it for you as much as i can, developers get on average 40% more money out of digital sales, this is undisputable, see >>741075417
>>741075506>The thing that makes physical useful is getting rid of itMakes you think
Zoomers are fucking useless and pathetic. They deserve to be enslaved. Fuck em.
>>741075506if you're so poor that you care about getting a refund on games you should just be pirating them
>>741072821PS5's DRM was cracked back in April. Switch 2's DRM was cracked at launch.
>>741075627>"If you change the words I'm correct..."AAAAAHAHAHAHAHA! Are you serious? That's you're argument? This is fucking hilarious!Say it again!
I still play the original Sims deluxe from the discs I had when I got it in the early 2000s. I have an old windows xp laptop that I run it and the old starcraft and warcraft 2 and c&c tiberian sun, predator 2, fable, halo, mechwarrior 4 mercs, and games around that time. I sure did take that autonomy to play whatever and whenever I wanted with no internet or ads on my terms for granted.
>>741074519And you stop hording digital junk zoom zoom the computer will get a virus
>>741068413So your argument is to pretend we live in a world where we can't just use said high grade discs for backup?
>>741075723>if i pedantically cry about things then i'm correctok, developers get 40% more revenue out of digital sales and further losses from reselling
>>741072827They do? I'm a millenial and if I don't use something for more than a few months I either sell it or throw it away. There's not a single shelf in my house aside of my kitchen cabinets now that I think about it.
>>741072639Books are literally useless paper, I could barely wipe my ass with it
>>741075428now post yours
>>741075791It's not my fault you don't know what English words mean, Rajeesh.I accept your literal concession of the original argument, you lose by your own admission.
>>741075857I don’t use steam
>>741075791No that's not how it works. Exposure and the community is infinitely more valuable than pinching pennies it's almost as if you don't know how wealth works surprise surprise
>>741075447There's literally no reason to own harddrive when you can download shit onto your mind -anon from year 3001
>>741075862it's not my fault you're a petty faggot that needs to piss xer pants because he doesn't understand the difference between letter and spirit of the wordthe developer can objectively get 70% of the revenue if they self publish as opposed to physical where the supply chain takes 20% and they're left with 50%
>>741068413And you think games come on those high grade discs? Lmao. I can buy them myself and move my collection onto them.
>>741075476I will go back to CDs shits was fun yo
>>741076029The developer was lucky to get 25% in those scenarios. The publisher raped them for printing costs (which were an upfront cost).
>buyLol
>>741075506Reselling is a meme. Nobody actually resells.
>>741075709But i still can't sell them
>>741076029>Says the wrong word>doubles down on itWhy?
>>741067035physical media ultimately just stores digital media, it can't be used without a device that interprets that digital mediaa physical book bypasses the need for a digital interpreter, a game cart does not
>>741076029You're thinking small like an accountant go back to the office and don't worry about your boss's vision.
>>741075976the biggest exposure and the biggest community is on steam though?the platform where the developer gets the biggest revenue share that goes up to 80% and which has almost as many users as all the consoles combined
>>741076129I destroy things after I use them because I don't want a poor person to ever benefit from my purchases.>>741076159Uh, no, sweaty. My discs are analog. The bits go up to 5.
>>741076189Money will come naturally as a result of the merits of the game and the community.
>>741076159And? That's what I want it to do.Everyone knows you need a record player to play records.
>>741075923yeah, because you dont play video games, do you. you just hoard the game boxes as collectibles like an autist.
>>741076153what's the point of getting a partial refund when you can not pay at all if that's what you're obsessed about?
>>741076029>objectivelyThen it should be REALLY easy to prove this claim objectively true. Do it now, or admit you are a faggot.
>>741076224>I destroy things after I use them because I don't want a poor person to ever benefit from my purchases.I have no idea why this made me laugh as hard as it did.
>>741075857Fake and gay you just play all of them one time and now they sit and rot on your backalog
>>741076156>is a petty reddit nigger that can't accept physical media is objectively worse when you want to support the developerwhy?>>741076183translate into non-redditese
>>741076320You said the wrong word, not me.Stop crying, you already lost.
>>741076302i've already proven it with basic arithmetics? what else do you need?the publisher gets 50% from physical, 70% from digitalthe developers have a percentage revenue cut and 70% is a 40% bigger percentage than 50%
>>741076384You still haven't proven that.
>>741076262I run a games store and shits been difficult since digital games
>>741076358if you need to devolve into breadtube style bitching and nitpicking you've already lost
>>741076384>i've already proven itNo you haven't, you faggot.Do it now.
>>741076410>>741076437what proof do you want if you're so retarded that basic arithmetics filter you?
>>741076429>Says the wrong word>triples down on itWhy? Just admit you made a mistake.Stop acting like a faggot muslim
>>741076437Faghots don't need to prove anything to you
>>741076313hahahaha. just admit you got fucking mogged by my last 2 weeks play time. its ok to accept you lost this one, anon. don't worry, you'll get em next time!
>>741076481if you want to support the developer you would buy digitalno amount of bitching changes this objective fact
>>741076478What is the source of those figures uou scum?
/v/ anons want to live in a tiny apartment room with only their bed and a pc because its all they need
>>741076478Literally anything verifiable.Like where you got your numbers from.
>>741076514Do you still play them now?
>>741076535>Moves goalposts Yeah, people do this when they lose the original argument.Are you cedeing the original argument? Y/N
>>741076535Even with digital steam ps and xbox and nintendo take 30% cut from devs
>>741067035Unrelated but Tom and Jerry really had sexy cat girls
>>741076540>https://www.serkantoto.com/2020/12/30/price-video-console-game-digital-physical/shows that publishers get a smaller revenue cut from physical>https://legalmoveslawfirm.com/game-publisher/shows that the developer gets a percentage of revenue, thus if the revenue is bigger, like it is with digital, then the developer gets more
>>741076302NTA, but it's proven by the Steam seller's agreement.>sell game yourself without a publisher>each copy sells X>Steam takes 0.3X>you get 0.7XA $60 game sold in a retail store isn't sold at cost. The retailer makes close to half that in profit, leaving only half that for the publisher. Even if the publisher is altruistic and only charges what it costs for production, marketing, and shipping (don't bet on it. It's a gamble since all that has to be done before a single unit is sold); that leaves a lot less for the developer.Also note:>shelf space at retailers was limited, and if your game wasn't AAA supergearsofwarcallofdutygrandtheftautofinalfantasy, retailers bought limited copies, and put them on regular shelves instead of endcaps and displays>debts are paid before the developer sees a dime. the publisher rakes their own upfront costs>if the game flops bad (which is very possible if you're not commanding prime shelf space), that might kill the developer, since no publisher wants to be around thatYou get a guaranteed 30% max rake on actual sales on Steam, with a $100 deposit. It makes the actual self-publishing aspect a lot less of a gamble, and guarantees higher returns for an actual developer.
>>741076714Doesnt show where you get your figures, faggot.Where do you get those figures from?
>>741067035I think the last physical PC game I bought was Star Craft 2. The last physical console game I bought was a Switch game. I stopped buying physical PS5 games a few years ago. When I look at the physical collection I currently have, I kind of wish it was on a digital library so it didn't take up as much physical space. I think I've transitioned to digital.
>>741076761>No proofI guess he's admitting he's a faggot.Steam proves nothing about physical games
>>741076798DA:O on 360 was on the way to my house the day I got locked up in 2009.
>>741076594Ultrakill: Yes, just started it recently, think its sick, definitely plan to continue.FFIII: I'm on the final area after the scripted defeat, but a bit fed up with it. Might push through to the end for the sake of it, but might just leave it here. Seen enough of it desu.Remnant: Also just started it, I think its a fun twist on the soulslike formula. Would rather just play ultrakill for now because i enjoy the faster pace, but might come back to this if i want something a bit more laid back.Peglin: I like to have a run every now and then. So sure. Not like its high art or anything though.Trackmania: Already have 100+ hours. Played it a ton the last month so gonna leave it for a while, but will probably come back in a few months.Warframe: No. The core mechanics felt pretty fun, so kept me onboard for those first 5 hours, but it seems like its repetitive f2p grind slop. Not for me.
>>741076798My last physical PC game was Bad Company 2My last physical console game was Xenoblade Chronicles XMy last physical handheld game was Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate
>>741067035lmao no, havent bought any physical games for at least 15 years now and i dont miss it one bit
And clutter up my house with discs? What the fuck do you think I am?
>>741067035>download game>burn to discexplain the difference
>>741076959>1 folder contains over 100 discsIt's really not that bad.
>>741076959Don't you want to install a game painfully slowly and then have to update it afterwards?
>>741076786what fucking figures?first link states that the publisher gets $49 out of a $70 digital sale, 70%, $35 out of a $70 physical sale, 50%second link shows that developers get a percentage deal from the publishers and thus they're getting more since it's the same percentage of a bigger number70%/50%=140%, the developer gets 40% more money from the publisher since there's 40% more revenue to share and they get a percentage cutit's as simple as that
>>741076895playing indy slop lol
>>741077057Now prove those figures are universal across the industry.
>>741077151i play a variety of indie and triple a. you dont play games at all.
>>741076714Still waiting on how you came up with your math.
>>741077151Nta but you lost
>>741077330>ntaOnly people who are-that-anon say this
Pirate ALL media. Creatives deserve to starve since that's how they make their best works.
>>741077181they're not, if the publisher is taking care of everything then they just salary the developers and they don't get any moreso you can feel free to buy the shittiest and most soulless AAA games physical as if that held any value>>741077296you should really go back to school, i already explained it, it's basic arithmetics
>>741077245I'm enjoying Duck Side of the Moon.
>>741077404>they're notOkay.So what is your argument exactly? Can you summerise it in one sentence?
>>741077470buying physical supports the developer less than buying digital unless you're specifically after buying AAA garbage
>>741077417playing indy slop lol
Okay let me just go to Gamestop and buy a physical PC game... Oh wait...
>>741077549Indiana Jones is nowhere in that shot.
>>741077528>buying physical supports the developer less than buying digital >unlessSo you're own argument is self-defeating.Great, glad we finally wrapped this up.
>>741077595>loses argument>"heh, i was just trolling the whole time guys!!!!"
>>741077667>/v/ is one personThe fact that my screenshot was in response to the guy that you're arguing with should have been a clue, but you're apparently unable to speak American or think in burgers.
>>741077630
>>741076997I've almost capped out my PS4/PS5 disc binder.
>>741077731your screenshot was in reply to me. it even has the (You) and everything.
>>741073027>Not including seever maintenance and uptime costs for a decadeDisingenuous
i wouldbut vidya doesn't come in physical anymore and buying a empty box with a shitty code to download isn't physical
>>741077905That means you're samefagging here:>>741077151>>741077245That makes you not only a liar, but an insane one that's arguing both sides.
>>741077787You're own argument is self defeating.There's no need to cry. Just do better next time.
>>741078023First party Nintendo games do.
>>741078042exceptions prove the rule you fucking illiterate moron>>741077978the costs that are covered by the developer and the storefront who both get a bigger cut as a result of no longer needing to spend money on a physical supply chain?
>>741078028what the fuck are you talking about.>>741077245 is me>>741077151 is him. how am i ever attempting to same fag here? if i was samefagging it would mean im just having a conversation with myself. you do realise that "playing indy slop" was posted 2 separate times by 2 different people right? that might be where you're getting confused.
>>741078134How? Be specific with how your argument is proving itself right.
>>741078254So then there was a response >>741077549>not mewhich I responded to with >>741077595and then the response was >>741077667and I responded with >>741077731I was never in said argument.
>>741078134You think servers runs on fairy dust?Electricity, bandwidth, new hardware every 8 years, technicians on site 24/7, redundancy, backups
>>741078312because you have to squeal and cry about the exception? actually here's a revision you can't cry your way out ofdigital supports the developers more in all circumstancesperiodeven when the developer gets paid the same amount because they're just contractors they still lose money on physical reselling which can eat into their sales targets and bonusesthe developers you actually want to support are the ones that lose the most out of you buying physical since they get a percentage of revenue and revenue is higher when they sell a digital copy
>>741078546Okay.So you are ceding the original argument. I accept your first concession. Now onto this new argument;>>digital supports the developers more in all circumstancesHow do you intend to prove this, in all circumstances? I don't think you can.
>>741078463ok, i see it now. in future i would recommend trying to make better quality posts to avoid this kind of confusion.
>>741078713in future i would recommend you stop acting like a smug redditor
>>741078526>new hardware every 8 yearswow servers run in the same hardware from 25 years ago>but muhnahfucking fps from 1998 have servers with more players than wow . dont pretend blizzard updates their shitty servers
>>741078709think what you want, desperate little jeeti already told youeven in the best case scenario for physical where they get the same amount per sale as digital, reselling games loses them sales
>>741078805>No proofShould I just accept this concession too?You clearly have nothing.
>>741078713In the future, you can lick my balls (actual guy you're talking to, not >>741078750).
>the zoomer's favorite game gets delisteduhhh g-guys..? how could they do this to me..
>>741070321Switch 2 games
>>741070765Those articles always inflate digital sales numbers with games like fortnite and genshin
>>741078847what proof do you want? reselling games doesn't count as a sale as the publisher gets no money from itdo you want me to explain that you can get rid of the beeping noise in your hallway by replacing the batteries in the smoke detector?
>>741079000>what proof do you want?Anything verifiable that prove your claim that >digital supports the developers more in all circumstancesWhy can't you do it?
>>741079065but i canyou can't resell digital therefore you don't lose sales from it like you can with physical and publishers use sales numbers as means to judge whether developers should get paid moreit's that simple
>buy Ps3 game/WiiU game>doesn't work on PS5 and Switch 2This is why I hate physical. My games should work on all future devices forever. Hence why my digital games are so nice. They are permanently forwards compatible thanks in part to emulators.
>>741075726Does it play old GOG games?
Kinda mental how some people dedicate several shelves to books when they can only store 1MB of data each, must be nice to have so much space to waste.
>>741079401you mean to tell me you don't have morning glory milking farm in paperback?
>>741075726>no internetYou weirdos love the whole "offline" meme, but when is anyone in 2026 ever offline?
>>741075232For fairness here's a digital only PC game being transferred by a pendrive from one PC to another. Let's see what that physicalcuck has to say about this.
>>741074426Those are awesome.
>>741078865for future reference im anon (the actual guy you were talking to, not >>741078750). if you ever download steam send me a dm and you can add me as a friend
>>741079145Okay. And how do you intend to prove the rest of your claim that it's better in>all circumstancesI don't think you can do this. Again, your wording has put you in an unwinnable position.
>>741079968that post proves it for big publishers that directly salary their developers, who use sales as bonus metrics and reselling reduces salesand i've already proven that digital is better for every publisher with a percentage dealso that is in fact all of themphysical in fact hurts those percentage deal developers more due to reselling toothat is all circumstances
>>741079726>digital onlyDo you store it all on cloud? Or is it your hard drive?
>>741080159Again, how do you intend to prove it for >all circumstanceslike you claim?Stop dodging the question you coward.
>>741080289i'm done fielding your arguments for you you fucking faggotsubmit evidence to the contrary yourself, that's what you're arguing here
>>741067035Only worth it if it's a format with no DRM or one which is jailbroken and you can bypass the DRM yourself. You need to be able to make backups of your stuff and use it as you like, not as some corporation likes.
>>741080412This. A game with physical DRM is no different from a digital game with a mandatory launcher that you can't bypass, or denuvo.
>>741079202>This is why I hate consolesFTFY
>>741080242Steam downloads it onto your hard drive. From there you can uninstall steam and store it however the hell you want. And the full game is 336.15 MB.
>DON'T EXPECT ANYTHING TO FUNCTION WITHOUT AN INTERNET CONNECTION!>ALWAYS ASK US FOR PERMISSION!>WE own YOU!oh
>>741081129you do realise 99% of digital games work without an internet connection right? and some games dont work without and internet connection even if you have a physical copy of it. its the same piece of software, just with physical media its been burned to a disc rather than downloaded to your harddrive
>>741079202To be fair this is a platform problem, not a game distribution problem. Downloadable games are only forwards compatible on PC because of emulation, compatibility tools and the platform's own backwards compatibility. On console you can very well buy a downloadable game and it will no longer work on future systems, like if you bought something on PSN for PS3 your PS4 and PS5 won't necessarily run that game.
What was the last physical PC game anyone bought? 2077 for me
>>741080368>Refuses to prove his own claimsThen you're done here. I accept your actual concession. >"b-b-but I want you to-"Burden of proof rests with you. Until you prove your own claims true, you lose faggot.Reply again if you're gay and seething.
>>741081619I think I have a physical copy of the original Overwatch. That was what, 2016? A decade ago, I don't think I bought any other physical PC game since then.
>>741078765>wow servers run in the same hardware from 25 years agoNo one can be THIS retarded holy shit
>>741081773you want me to prove it by doing what? getting insider info from every single studio in existence to confirm that it lines up with observations as basic as stating that your water bill will be lower if you reuse water?fuck off faggot, do you job, you're disputing a rule and you should prove that the rule doesn't applyget to work you lazy nigger, chop chop
>>741081619For a game with a disk?The Witcher 3Boxed copy with just a code?Elden Ring.
>Got a Switch 2 as a gift>Most games I want are game key cards>PS5 is $1000 heregrim
>>741082002Yes. You said you could prove your claim true.If you can't do this impossible task, which I already told you was impossible, why did you insist you could?
>>741074426Are those mousepads or something?
>>741082153I'm holding out hope they'll release them as regular carts eventually.Otherwise, it's second hand so the sale doesnt support the development of more Gay Key Tards
>>741067132If your game isn't stable/playable on release with no patches it's probably not a good game anyway.
>>741067163>we are so adjusted to our homes being smaller and smaller to due to low income and high real estate price that we just conisder lack of shelves and wasting space as a new normal
>>741082339Reminder that our states are bigger than your country, and getting a few acres to sprawl out on is pretty easy in burgerland.
>>741082339maybe if we just fill our shrinking space with useless plastic we wont have the issue of shrinking space any more.
>>741082224scientific method retardit's on you to disprove those very basic observations by citing evidence to the contrarywhich you don't have because you're a lazy reddit nigger and your capabilities end at being able to come up with snarky and quippy responses
>>741082531>"Noo! I don't have to prove my.claims true but youuu do!"I'll prove whatever you think I'm claiming when you prove your claim true, I asked first so it's only fair. Just like adults would do in a debate. Agreed?Go ahead. Ball is in your court. Win.
>>741082709yes, if you're disputing basic shit like this then it's on you to disprove ityou don't prove a rule by finding examples that match it, you try to fucking break itso can you break it faggot? no, because you're too stupid to do actual research
>>741082967>"Noo! I don't have to prove my.claims true but youuu do!"Then you lose.Thanks for literally cedeing the argument to me by refusing to participate. Also thanks for confirming you're gay abd seething.
>>741067035Games don't release complete anymore. Game companies killed physical media by patching the game later and adding back cut content resold as DLC to milk more money out of people.
>>741083117>refusing to participatei've proven basic facts before, you've done nothing but cry and nag and when you have to do your work you suddenly crydo your job faggot, i'm done counterarguing myself, i should have never brought in the publisher talk because i know you're too stupid to even know about that
>>741083345You still can't prove your one and only claim true.I'm embarrassed for you.
>>741083416you're squirming because you have to actually argue for once instead of naggingdo you need me to prove 1+1=2 too?
>>741083481No, I just need you to stay on topic and prove your one and only claim true, or admit you can't.Thanks.
>>741067035No.>plastic junk for materialism purposes>same EULA horseshit as digital>anything not on the new market is extremely expensive even for bare carts (the only exceptions are stuff that's extremely common and not good, pretty sure you can still buy Atari Pac-Man for $3 or less at a flea market)>lots of games never released physically
haha which? the only games worth playing are like dota and dungeons and dragons online (anyd they have their problems)what you really replaying mario for the 1000th time there ?
>>741083526i've already proven that the publisher gets 40% more revenue from digital and that developers have percentage deals with publishers which means they also get 40% moreeven in circumstances where the publisher directly salaries developers they also get bonuses which are less likely to happen due to physical reselling cutting into the revenuethat's reality, prove it wrong
>>741083481>>741083526are you 2 still arguing about whether or not its more expensive for devs to release games on physical media? LOL
>>741083676>In ALL circumstances Why can't you prove this part of your claim true?I've been asking for over 1 and a half hours. Stop squirming, stop crying, it's pathetic.
>>741083784>I've been asking for over 1 and a half hoursNTA, but isn't that a little pathetic? Maybe go touch grass, incel chud
>>741067035Physical is 90% a meme, what you really want is a DRM free digital copy you can move to anything (including a physical shell if need be.)
>>741083837>P-p-please don't make me prove myself correct...I'm sunbathing in the garden on my day off, i can reply all day
>>741083784>why can't you go out of your way to prove that basic logic is wrong?because that's your job fag, i've done enough, you've done nothing but cry"Ball is in your court. Win."
>>741075605I saw some leftists freaking out a few weeks ago because somebody just appointed to some position once like a post by Moldbug, and Moldbug is a fascist so that means this person is a fascist by extension.(This coming from the same people that celebrate China, Iran, and Hamas mass murdering dissidents. Somehow that's not fascism.)
>>741084020>Refuses to prove his own claim true>"t-t-thats your job..."Muslims are so fucking stupid...No Muhammad, that's your job. Are you refusing to do it? Yes or no answers only.
>>741084106yes, it's your job to argue against something you disagree withdid you drop out of school? the burden of proof is on you here, disprove basic logic that requires no assumptions
>>741083989>/v/ is one personDo you know what "NTA" means? You're not only a pathetic loser, but you can't even speak American like Jesus did.
>>741084193>"yes I am refusing to prove my own argument correct"That's literally you conceding the argument to me.And I accept your concession.Thanks for playing, you can stop spamming the thread now.
>>741067497Being able to play the game has nothing to do with ownership retard.
>>741084290my argument is proven based on how simple it isbigger sales number is better, bigger revenue is betterhere's your chance to prove somethingwhy wouldn't physical lower sales? go on, the ball is in your court
>>741084429Reply again if you lost.
>>741084491are you a preschooler?here's another data point for you to bitch abouthttps://dataintelo.com/report/global-second-hand-game-platform-market> In 2025, more than 38% of all video game transactions in the United States alone involved a pre-owned or used title, reflecting deep structural demand for the secondary gaming economy. now physical not only results in less revenue than digital but the developers and publishers get zero from 40% of game sales
>>741084626Thanks for admitting you lost.Also why do you think that proves it, and I quote >In ALL circumstancesLet's end this. Because you said "in all circumstances", if I find even 1 example, no matter how unlikely or unbelievable, you will concede that you statement is incorrect.Do you agree? Yes or no.
>>741084776yes, in all circumstances due to physical reselling taking out a massive share of the salesi'd like to see how you can even disprove it, it's a basic axiom founded on basic math
>>741084910Excellent, glad you agree.You said digital supports developers more in **all circumstances**. If even one exception exists, the claim is false.Examples:• If the developer owns the retail store, physical supports them more.• If the developer gets 100% of physical sales and 0% of digital sales, physical supports them more.• If the digital store takes a bigger cut than retail, physical supports them less.• If the developer earns a royalty on physical but not digital, physical supports them more.• If the publisher pays bonuses based on physical units sold, physical supports them more.• If a physical collector's edition has a higher developer royalty, physical supports them more.• If a digital copy is bought at a deep discount and physical is bought at full price, physical supports them more.• If the developer self-publishes physical and licenses away digital rights, physical supports them more.• If the developer receives the same money from both formats, digital doesn't support them more.• If the developer is fully paid regardless of sales, digital doesn't support them more.• If physical and digital generate identical revenue for the developer, digital doesn't support them more.• One equal case is enough to disprove "supports more in all circumstances."• One tie is enough to disprove "supports more in all circumstances."• If they're paid the same either way, "more" becomes "not more."• Equal support is a direct counterexample to "greater support in all circumstances."• A single circumstance where the developer gets the same amount disproves the claim.Your argument may support "digital often supports developers more." It does not support "digital supports developers more in ALL circumstances."One exception is all it takes.Do you agree any one of these situations is possible? Yes or No answers only.
>>741085263No, they're not. You lose. You got dunked on by Lamar Jackson for a hat trick with the bases loaded.
>>741079914>>741082281NFC cards, I have made a wifi reader using circuit boards and Arduino code and stuffed it in a little box, the card itself contains a command to launch the game and on the PC end I made a background listener to catch and launch it.
>>741085542>N-No, it's unlikely anyone would ever release a collectors edition of a game...You lost and got raped.I accept your concession one final time.
>>741085263NTA but trying to find fringe cases and retarded gotchas proves the rule. If someone tells you "you shouldn't bring a knife to a gun fight", then your answer shouldn't be "but what if they forget the load the gun, hmm? therefore you are wrong and I should bring a knife to a gun fight"
>>741067035>This entire thread>Buying media>owning thingsZis is unacceptable
>>741085910>/v/ is one personYou can't help but lose, can you? If this board had flags; I'd imagine yours is green, yellow, and blue.
>>741085929>trying to find fringe cases and retarded gotchas proves the ruleHe literally admitted he would concede if I did it, so no, erm akshually it doesnt.If you don't mean "all" don't say "all". Say "most" or you'll look foolish like he did.
>>741086038Cry more.
>>741086254>Cry moreAbout what? The fact that you're going 0-82?
>>741086654>He's crying>moreKeep doing exactly what I tell you to do, good girl!
>>741085263thanks for admitting that you're a retard that never understood the assignmentthe hypothesis you had to disprove was whether a developer would prefer to get a digital or a physical sale and you failed spectacularlyyou should've never said anything instead of embarrassing yourself like that>If the developer owns the retail store, physical supports them more.no, manufacturing costs are higher than internet distribution costs>If the developer gets 100% of physical sales and 0% of digital sales, physical supports them more.gross vs per capita, you're a retard>If the digital store takes a bigger cut than retail, physical supports them less.nowhat matters is how much the developer and publisher gets, not how much the storefront getswith steam that's 70-80%, with physical that's 50%you require making shit up because there's no realm where the developer gets even close to that>If a physical collector's edition has a higher developer royalty, physical supports them more.so you think 1% of sales cancels out the used market?>If a digital copy is bought at a deep discount and physical is bought at full price, physical supports them more.if a digital copy is bought at launch that supports them more than a second hand copy, which doesn't support them at all> If the developer self-publishes physical and licenses away digital rights, physical supports them more.no, manufacturing costs are higher than internet distribution costs> If the developer is fully paid regardless of sales, digital doesn't support them more.and you have to assume the publisher is the biggest fucking nigger on the planet that doesn't offer any employee bonuses for success, which no one does because unions> If physical and digital generate identical revenue for the developer, digital doesn't support them more.gross vs per capita again, you struggle with thatagain, you really should've said nothing
>>741087063You admitted that if I think of even 1 (one) example you wouod concede, and I have.Why are you crying now?
>These retards have been genuinely spending 6 hours on a Sunday morning to argue on a Kosovian fish salting image board.Bleak
>>741087237no, i've never done that, your job was to prove that physical supports the developer more than digitaland it doesn'tif all game sales were to be either 100% digital or 100% physical no one would pick physical, that's less upfront revenue and more revenue lost due to resellinggo on, go point by point and disprove what i saidor are you too stupid for it?
>>741087486>no, i've never done thatHere's where you agreed to do that.>>741084910>Do you agree? Yes or no.>"yes".
>>741069003Because neither of them ever owned anything so the concept of ownership is completely alien to them.
>>741087602i didn't agree to you being a fucking illiterate moronif all game sales were to be either 100% digital or 100% physical no one would pick physical, that's less upfront revenue and more revenue lost due to resellinggo on, go point by point and disprove what i saidor are you too stupid for it?
>>741069063>clicking through the pride flags to access you GOG library
>>741067035I do, but I also pirate everything.
>>741084305>if you can't use it you can still own itWhat's the point in owning worthless shit, dumbass?
>>741087668So what did you agree to? Tell me, because I was very clear when I asked.
>>741067035No>Emulates
>>741089308'sup, emubro.
>>741087995my bad, i assumed i was dealing with someone somewhat reasonable, but after reading>If the developer gets 100% of physical sales and 0% of digital sales, physical supports them more.i reconsideredare you going to argue that people like drinking piss because they would drink it when the alternative is dying of dehydration?but since you consider those all or nothing ultimatums a valid argument, then answer thiswould you as a developer or a publisher prefer 100% of your sales netting you a 50% cut that often becomes a 0% cut due to reselling or 100% of your sales netting you a 70% cut that goes up to 80% depending on your success
>>741087992Value. That's the only point of owning things.
>>741090234what's the point of buying shit that does nothing?
>>741090158>Dodges the questionCute!
>>741067095Killing games is based. Tehre are too many as it stands. We could do with fewer.
>>741095267but i did answer isyou're so stupid that you think physical is better when digital isn't an option, as if that was a valid comparisonso i'll paste it againwould you as a developer or a publisher prefer 100% of your sales netting you a 50% cut that often becomes a 0% cut due to reselling or 100% of your sales netting you a 70% cut that goes up to 80% depending on your success?
>>741095426Quote your answer in your last postThanks.
>>741095653i answered, you're such a humongous fucking idiot that you never understood the assignmenthere it is, laid out as plainly as possible with the least amount of thinking required for your smooth little brain contained by a cracked skull since you got dropped on your head as a kidwould you as a developer or a publisher prefer 100% of your sales netting you a 50% cut that often becomes a 0% cut due to reselling or 100% of your sales netting you a 70% cut that goes up to 80% depending on your success?
>>741095330based
>>741067095Someone call Rockman to stop this evil Moldman.
If you specifically want a cartridge or a disk of the game, sure, but strictly speaking literally any of the reasons you'd buy a game or any piece of media DON'T apply to buying second hand.This not getting into the second hand market for vidya being rife with fraud bullshit or retarded shit like destroying thousands of copies of games to make them "rarer" to justify charging in some cases hundreds of times what you paid to get them.
>>741079202but they don't. your emulators are akin to those consoles. they don't just bundle Cemu with ZSNES
I'm a PCfag, I'd literally need to create it myself.
>>741095724>no quoteloser
>>741067035This is retarded, video games are no longer shipped as a finished product anymore. This is why even if you buy a physical media game, it will need numerous patches to fix issues.
>>741098302would you as a developer or a publisher prefer 100% of your sales netting you a 50% cut that often becomes a 0% cut due to reselling or 100% of your sales netting you a 70% cut that goes up to 80% depending on your success?
>>741067163>your house
>>741067035>"buy physical media!!">shows Playdate>"erm... cringe?!"
>>741098108Maybe consoles should allow me to install emulators and software of my choosing. AND they should freely let me crack their game DRM so I can make backups of their games.
>>741097072Like, it's strictly speaking dumber than paying an IP ransom to microsoft for some niche IP they're sitting on in hopes of getting a new game, because at least microsoft has ANY prospects at all of developing a game.Some fat loser sitting on 1000 copies of Gotcha Force will never make a game and none of the money buying scalped copies of it will contribute to the creation of new games.
>>741067035Buying physical games nowadays is just retarded. The game is not even on the disc and you pay more for it.
>>741067163>your houseWhat is this 1985?
>>741067035
>>741098407Dunno.Don't see how it's relevant to your claim. Be consise.
>>741098826That one's an oddball cos it can be either. I've seen both in stores
>>741099591>i don't know if i'd rather have more money or lessare you retarded?
>>741098826
>>741100140>nintendo chooses to make their physical media playable without installing>it's more expensive and they expect others to take the hit on their gay little vision
>>741067035The only physical media I buy are physical books since entire time spent with the media is interacting with it physically. If I buy a disk for video games, I am not interacting with the disk while I play the game and is equivalent to the digital version. Also, only buy hardcover if you are of this mindset, because reading a book is at least longer than a video game, and spending an extra $10-20 on the hardcover makes reading it so much better and looks better on the shelf, and you're less likely to get damaged covers from shipping, or putting it in a bag.
>>741100267>nintendo choosesRetard. Braindead retard. The NSW1 era clearly proves you wrong. Third party publishers wanted this
>>741100447nintendo made their physical use flash memory which is more expensive and they passed off the costs to the publishersthis is nintendo's fault
>>741100578Kys braindead trannyNSW1 era clearly proves you wrong
>>741100643it proves that publishers weren't willing to shoulder nintendo's higher costs of physicaland why should they? nintendo sets the rules and didn't accommodate for them
>>741100353Where can I get that book
>>741085697That's pretty slick
>>741090234Go back to /biz/ you nigger. Over here we (don't) play video games, and care about playing video games, not what some dumbass loser has on their shelves because they can sell if for $13 more in 20 years.
>>741097072bro someone destroying X copies to artificially inflate scarcity or the problems of buying second hand are never an issue to me. >Don't buy /vr/ on temu or aliexpress>don't buy games too overinflated in price for your collection when you can emulatehaving physical = having the power, having the resource, having the game when >corpos/gov decides to put a chip in your brain that shocks you when you emulate>emu sites get taken down and you can't find another>you want to give the game to a friend who doesn't have a computer but has the consolecall my situations niche, but the point is no matter what happens you have it, you own it, you hold it.
>>741098553Go look at the Redscientistlabs Real Time Corruptor Suite. it bundles in the etc to Bizhawk, Citra, PCSX2 (or whatever its called) and some other emulators into one big suite. Even you don't care about vidya corruptions, it works, although I recommend any vidya enthusiast to give corrupting games a try, its a hoot.https://redscientist.com/rtc
>>741102069It's out of print. The publisher is no longer in operation.
>>741099724>dodges the question>again :/
>>741105862i answered it, you're so retarded that you need to be asked another question directly, i didn't expect the intellectual pit of claiming physical is better when you have no choice but to get physicalso answer this one insteadwould you as a developer or a publisher prefer 100% of your sales netting you a 50% cut that often becomes a 0% cut due to reselling or 100% of your sales netting you a 70% cut that goes up to 80% depending on your success?
>>741106260Reply again.
>>741067035ok well I have kind of a collection for movies atm but what about switch games? cause I know nintendo went full greed and forced people to get the upgraded versions for $20-$30 more
>>741106559That's not true in even 1 example lol
>>741067035I've gone over to PC now. Kinda impossible.
>>741067181When Nintendo killed the eshop their cattle fan base took it in the ass and asked for seconds
>>741109803Console companies have always done this. Never do digital for consoles. On PC it's okay because Steam is trusted, or you can just pirate.
Why are zoomers so obsessed with plastic boxes?
