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What are some non Vidya franchises/IP you think would make good Vidya?
Bonus points for describing the gameplay style
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>>741080426
Based litrpg enjoyer
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>>741080426
I'm halfway through the first book. When does it get good?
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>>741080426
Im actually just halfway through the first book. I like it so far except for some shitty jokes about incels and anti-vaxxers.
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>>741080801
2 things you can always make fun of.
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>>741080798
>>741080801
>Posted on the same second

What the fuck
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>>741080426
I have heard about this constantly but have yet to ever hear about what it's about. Anyway I would probably make a Percy jackson game as all I really read are books already connected to Vidya franchises
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>>741080901
Clones>>7l
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>>741080426
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>>741080426
I hate this kind of slop. It's like a whole generation got brain rotted by vidya and now they can't imagine anything without vidya tropes and mechanics.
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>>741081358
New achievement! Wasted another day of your life complaining about shit you don't read!
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Hull zero three. I'm rereading it now after like a decade and am surprised with how good it is. Feel like it would make a good dead space clone.
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>>741081529
What's in the box WHAT'S IN THE BOX?
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>>741074358
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>>741081839
Whoops. Weird how hive minded /v/ is today
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>>741080928
basic synopsis:
>aliens come to earth
>instantly flatten everything (buildings, trees, etc.) to the ground (basically killing anyone inside) for resources to build giant underground dungeon TV-show
>survivors (basically anyone outside when it happened) get to play in said dungeon TV-show and need to get to the next floor or they die
>RPG tropes, classes, items, monsters, etc
>every level is a different theme and takes about one book
It's ok.

It gets pretty tedious later on, especially when you haven't read it for a while (i.e. between new book releases) and you have to refamiliarize yourself with the metric fuckton of random ass characters the series has. I kinda lost interest during the pokeymans floor.
Pretty much suffers from the same issue every RPGey/Isekai/Webtoon has where it starts out with a fun idea but then just starts flopping like a fish and doesn't really go anywhere. Which reminds me, they also made a Webtoon version of Dungeon Crawler Carl for some reason.
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How would you adapt it?
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I like this one
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>>741082503
>Which reminds me, they also made a Webtoon version of Dungeon Crawler Carl for some reason.
Litrpgs are 90% of the manhwa market so it's not that weird. Probably just an attempt to get Koreans into western slop
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I know it already got one video game (and it was shit), but they really need to make a, so called, "disco-like" with this one
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DUNGEON CRAWLER CARL
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Does listening to audiobooks count?
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Open world Discworld rpg. Randomly spawn in and go on some zany adventure
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>mage student stuck in time loop
>dies a lot, gits gud
I liked this one because it actually ended after 4 books instead of going on infinitely and outstaying it's welcome.

There's not enough (good) time loop vidya.
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>>741082514
mini games like warioware or puzzle and action games with short narrative cutscenes inbetween
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>>741083134
MoL was lackluster and disappointing after arc 1, and it went on for far too long.
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>>741083079
Audiobooks are the superior media. Audiobooks are made for long commutes. I get through about twenty books a year now. Fuck reading while Im home. Home is for vidja and gooning
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>>741083079
You didn't beat the book
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Any good scifi horror or action books? I've been rereading the halo and now I'm in a real mood for it.
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>>741083079
>fren keeps recommending Dungeon Crawler Carl audiobooks
>VO dude does different voice per character, has pretty impressive range
>but all his females sound like trannies
egh
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>>741080426
Mistborn will very likely have an actual vidja game series. Easy to make, its literally Dishonored. I eagerly await the day we have infinite Vin porn.
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>>741083493
Isn't there a full cast audio drama version?
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>>741083524
>Easy to make
I think the studio currently making the game is Mistborn's fourth attempt.
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>>741080426
This is the kind of book read by the most normalfag of normalfags, my coworker tried to talk to me about this and it was very awkward
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I need more The Black Company in my life
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Be honest /v/
Do you actually pay for books?
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>>741083621
lolno, the last book I paid for was the girl with the dragon tattoo in like 2005ish
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>>741083589
No, fuck that series. Only the first book is good, the rest only exists to humiliate the break-out character because he overshadowed the author's self-insert. I'm am so fucking mad I didn't quit after the first book.
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>>741083587
Idk why but when it's a novel I can handle normie slop alot more than any other medium of entertainment.
I'm actually getting into the trap of reading those shitty smut novels lately
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Man Royal Road Legends somehow got even worse than I remember it being years ago.
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>>741083621
amazon one-click-buy is too convenient to not use it
s'only like 3-7 bucks per book anyway
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>>741083740
Stay mad pajeet
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>>741083493
I tried the audio book out of curiosity and it lessened my enjoyment of the paper books because I hated Carl's voice, and it made me notice that every single Donut line starts with Carl. Plus I listened to the first audio book after I was already a few books in and it made me think about how I liked that part in book 1 where he yells at Donut almost immediately for doing the bitchy cat thing, only to realize she's doing the bitchy cat thing now anyway
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>>741083621
Not since I found my audiobook pirating site
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>>741083765
The second that dude brought up that book to me I knew I could never hang out with him after work. There are just certain things that immediately flag a person as intolerable.
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>>741084003
>There are just certain things that immediately flag a person as intolerable.
Like posting anime girl reaction images in every response
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>>741083765
It's probably because even shitty books are more fun to chew on than shitty shows or shitty games. I read Ready Player One, god help me, because I got a copy as a gift and I still have fond memories laughing at it
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>>741080426
Nothing that is based on a LitRPG.
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>>741083621
>buy a book on my kindle fire
>eh its a few dollars cheaper than physical and you don't have to worry about having space for it nice!
>without stable internet for a while
>could not read a single book I had bought because it needs a fucking internet connection to read books you bought
Sailed the seven seas ever since, fuck scamazon.
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>>741080928
>Percy Jackson
Holy shit I use to imagine an RPG set in that universe. Hated the movie so fucking bad I would actually argue with people IRL about it.
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>>741084176
>could not read a single book I had bought because it needs a fucking internet connection to read books you bought
weird, my 2013 kindle paperwhite doesn't need internet at all (after downloading the books)
gonna suck if that thing ever stops working
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Lord from Planet Earth was inspired by early 90s vidya to begin with, it could make an awesome Mass Effect esque rpg with some elements of space opera.
It's about an ex military dude falling for an alien princess and following her to her home planet where he's forced to participate in a tournament to win her hand, clashing with a brutal dictator who wants to force her into political marriage. He gets assisted by a local artifact of precursor civilization, granting him a few return by death attempts.
Then the narrative transforms into a space opera as he tries to stop a group of cultists from detonating a giga nuke on Earth, and eventually spirals into a TTGL esque fight against true aliens.
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For me its The Game at Carousel,
A bunch of horror movie puzzles with progresing meta narative where each puzzle is a movie you solve with a equiped tropes.
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>>741084176
That's not how it works, Anon. Once you download the books, you can open them even when you're offline. You forgot to download the books before reading them.
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>>741083621
Lol no? Anybody can write a book why the fuck would anyone need to pay for words.
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>>741084073
Sure but it's not really ironic enjoyment I don't think.
I recently started the gender bent twilight books series and I'm just legitimately invested
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>>741083621
as long as the writing is good and im genuenly interested into the setting yes, but a bunch of authors just drop dead once the amazon deal goes thru. So you should only support experienced or atleast consistent writers with a couple of books under their belt.
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>>741084176
PICNIC error = Problem in Chair Not in Computer
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>>741083079
Not in a million years
>b-but le ancient greeks used to listen to bards!!!
Still no
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>>741083621
i go to used book stores frequently - can get decent deals and wacky selection. i only buy new if it's a book with a difficult-to-find translation
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>>741083843
>>741083493

If it helps, there's 2 versions of the audiobook. The first is the original, which cover every single book so far, and is probably the one you disliked. There's a rebooted version now with a full cast, full sound FX and extra content and scenes, which are being released in "seasons" covering each book, each episode is around 90 minutes, and so far they're on season 3. You can of course pirate these easily.
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i'm on book 6 of the audiobook, easy to listen to when walking my dog
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>>741080426
Made In Abyss

>but there is a game already
Yeah but it sucks. I want casualties unknown survival style 3D game with plot and all.
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>>741081660
Is this the one with the clones?
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>>741084968
Used bookstores were ruined for me when they started pricing based on crazed internet values. Like I used to love buying dogshit CYOA paperbacks for a dollar or two, got a shelf load of them, and now magically they've gone from kindling to valuable collector's items and a crappy D&D CYOA paperback is suddenly $50. I hate the march of time
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/v/ has more composure talking about books than vidya
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>>741086079
/v/ has more composure talking about literally anything other than the main focus of the board. that's generally how all the boards are on this site.
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I don't know if it'd actually make a good video game I just love these books
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>>741085986
Every secondhand/thrift shop/flea market/swap meet is like this now, they are no longer places where you find deals, you only find the overpriced scraps of what resellers/the owners themselves didn't feel was profitable to resell on Ebay
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>>741080426
Isn't it getting a video game adaption? Wikipedia has:

-TV
-Board game
-TTRPG
-Video game
-Audiobook

Listed.
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>everything is fantasy slop
I'm so fucking tired of sword and board, knife ear bullshit
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>>741084772
>I recently started the gender bent twilight books series
Isn't that just the first book, or did she actually milk thats shit and do 2-4 reverse uno gender?
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>>741086690
Sorry but fantasy is superior to sci-fi
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the dark side of literature is a pathway to many stories some consider to be... unnatural
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Medieval religious horror game.
Travel through a plague ravaged Europe, fight bandits and mutated creatures, escort a mysterious young girl who claims to talk to angels.
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>>741087157
>dedicated AI search button
>AI generated covers
>AI generated """books"""

no one wants to see this horseshit, cultist.
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I finally got around to reading Hyperion. It's fantastic.
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>>741083621
nope i pirate all media
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>>741087310
I picked up a copy of this the other day but haven't started it yet. I have heard nothing but good things though so I am excited.
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>>741089210
I was very pleasantly surprised. Hope you enjoy it.
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>>741080426
Dcc peaked for me at book 4. Feels like the scope of the story got too big and it lost that comfy feeling of an adventure.
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>>741087310
this book was boring in the first few chapters but by the end I actually really liked it. sounds super lame but I got heavy souls vibes
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>>741080426
This series pop up everywhere.
Is it just an American version of stereotypical isekai manga, where everything is quantifiable (character has levels, skills, XP, etc) like a video game?
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>>741089828
Isekai means that the character was teleported to another world.
Isekai =/= litRPG (which is the term you were looking for.)
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>>741083134
Ratfic LitRPG in general is thankfully underappreciated. Worth the Candle is the other big one, there's also Worm and HPMR and Friendship is Optimal worth checking out.
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>>741089887
It wasn't so much the isekai part I wondered about, more the other stuff.
Is the series just him getting more and more skills and power while encountering new enemies?
I'm asking because I've just heard and seen tidbits and nothing seems to particularly interesting or original.
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>>741089887
same difference
every floor of Dungeon Crawler Carl's dungeon can be considered a "different world"
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>>741090063
>Is the series just him getting more and more skills and power while encountering new enemies?
To a degree but later on starting with the most recent book IIRC, the author specifically pointed out that the characters are some of, if not the strongest in the history of the entire 'Crawl' and that he would need to find other methods of adversion as opposed to outright combat fights.
He does tend to resolve major events with about six different veils of smoke before leading you to its conclusion.
>>741090106
The dungeon is on Earth. Nobody leaves Earth except to visit ships in orbit for talk show segments. Genre definitions do not exist at your whimsy.
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>>741089614
I've been listening to them on audiobook while playing poe2. On the last one for me it dropped with This Inevitable Ruin still enjoyable but it got super contrived.
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>>741081104
>Illy hymen
This book is 100% not real
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>>741083621
no, most of the books I read are old enough to have their writer already dead or made enough money from it
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>>741082994
>>741080426
Based, I'd fucking love a game set in this universe.
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>>741090516
Based anon confounded by pseudonyms
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>>741091117
I've seen too many shitposts to have such whismy
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>>741089887
most "isekai" are trapped in a videogame world with videogame mechanics
the difference is immaterial.
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>lit thread on v
How neat. As for a book I'd like to see adapted as a game l would love to see a LoZ style Redwall series. I think it would be a really good fit.
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>>741080426
I actually wrote a book that has a lot of "game elements" with scientific / in-universe explanations. I'll be publishing it in about 2 months. I would say "I think /v/ would like it," but let's be honest - /v/ doesn't like anything.
My friend is doing the art for the book. Here's one of her recent works, and I think it looks great.
>inb4 "buy an ad"
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>>741091237
Both can have elements of the other but they are wholly separate categories.
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>>741091369
wholly separate my ass.
"litrpg" is just isekai for booktok fags afraid of using japanese words.
don't talk to be about "RPG books" if you aren't rolling dice and penciling in a character sheet at the back of the book.
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Id love something based off this Honestly
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>>741091591
>stats in a book means that the MC has been teleported to another world
Genre definitions do not exist at your whimsy.
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>>741082780
I didn't finish this series, and quite frankly I have started to dislike the protagonist more after reflection.
He went from smug, to mind broken, to "normal" and all the fun went with him.
Doesn't help he spergs out about liberal politics either
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>>741091703
>Genre definitions do not exist at your whimsy.
They literally do though.
You have people throwing around "nativeisekai" because the genre definitions are wack and ill defined.
Less you forgot that fantasy and sci-fi used to be under one roof.
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>>741091818
>You have people throwing around "nativeisekai"
I do unfortunately see this a lot on /a/ and I associated it with Frieren shitposting lol it still does not make it accurate nor correct.
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>>741091614
You're having a funny but I would kill for halo games actually set during the war.
The main trilogy is like the last 3 weeks and the 343 era isn't canon.

We got one good mid war game in halo wars but I want a fucking contact harvest game staring some odsts.
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The Marquis
Track and find devils hiding in human bodies, defeat them with your sword and dual pistols.
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>>741091945
>it still does not make it accurate nor correct.
There is no council of genre definitions, no higher authority to refer to, unfortunately what the people say becomes correct if the majority of people are saying it.
Else you can call all FPS games "Doom clones".
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>>741091297
Don't be afraid to pimp your work here, anon.
What's it called?
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>Get gifted the DCC series in hardcover because the gifter absolutely loves it and is trying to spread the disease
>Mentions the hardcovers are best because they've got the extra Pineapple Cabaret chapters
>Figure I'll read them in hardcover since I haven't read a paper book in years because of blessed e-readers
>Remember why I stopped reading paper books once I got my hands on an e-reader as I try to hold increasingly large books comfortably in bed
The smart move would be to just read the fucking things digitally and then just read the bonus chapters on paper, but I'm not a smart man. Plus, they're fairly new books so you better believe I'm huffing that paper and smelling my ancient 30 year old library book checkout card I use like a bookmark every time I crack the book open like the greasiest pervert in the world. Almost makes up for the inconvenience. Almost.
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>>741083079
Why wouldn't it? In fact I'd say it's better.
Listening to your fellow man as he spins a narrative through the air is what all of humanity has been and will be.

Also helps that's it's more convenient
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How do people discover new books to read? I really want to read more books but trustworthy recommendations seem harder to come by than a lot of mediums and it takes longer for me to figure out if I like or dislike a book compared to, for instance, vidya.
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>>741092873
You read the back/dust jacket and judge it by its cover, but also don't get too choosy. It's a shrimple as that. You see something that looks/sounds at least mildly interesting and give it a shot. Piracy is always an option because you presumably have access to those dens of piracy known as libraries so trying random shit and being willing to drop it if it's not doing anything for you is the name of the game
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>>741092873
goodreads
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>>741080801
DCC is pretty good, if you can't tolerate the odd left-wing applause light you probably wont enjoy it. Dinniman throws out a few per book, like 'have I reminded my audience I am sufficiently Woke today despite having a White MC and lots of Problematic tropes that I will just hang a lampshade on?' It's not too intrusive.
More broadly, the story is very clearly a metaphor for modern society and endorsement of anarchism and violent revolution in the face of sufficiently immoral society. So if you're a status quo enjoyer, again, might not be the best choice. But, funnily, you could probably change less than 100 words throughout the series and make it a revolutionary Natsoc or Juche tract, or anything really - the particular brand of revolutionary politics being prog-left is pretty damn tacked-on.
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Another chill thread being shitted on by culture war bullshit
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>>741095413
have you considered not doing that
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>>741083621
i don't buy everything i read, but yes i absolutely have a respectable bookshelf in my home if that's what you're asking
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>>741092873
Find yourself a book title or synopsis that sounds interesting, then head over to Goodreads and look at the 1-star reviews. If most of them are written by complete fucking retards - or worse, the quirky "self-aware" psuedointellectuals - it's probably a good book.

That being said, just because a book is good doesn't mean you'll like it, but at least you wont be wasting your time as much.

pic related, a one star review of a self-admitted retard vs a normal person roasting a shit book.
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>>741092168
Mother of Ruin
I have a website, but it's very rough. Trying to figure out this whole marketing thing over the next two months. Just started posting to social media as well. This part is honestly harder than writing the book.
Here's another character my friend is working on - he's basically the armorer/engineer of the protagonist team. Art is still WIP.
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>>741080798
The second half of the first book
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>>741095703
I think the webnovel general on /lit/ has some advert suggestions in the OP pastebins.
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>>741080426
Ciaphas Cain, Hero of the Imperium

Semi on-rails shooter like Metro series, but also has a bunch of pseudo detective/decision making/deduction sections. Speech checks and deus ex machina abound. Maybe something like Uncharted?
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>>741095820
Thanks, I'll check that out!
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>>741080426
If we're talking about LitRPG stuff, I much preferred this series. There's some gay pronoun shit later in the series and a couple negress girlbosses, but the extremely autistic worldbuilding and magic system more than makes up for it. Probably one of my favorite "spellcrafting" systems, and if we're actually staying on topic, I could see it being a great system for vidya.
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>>741083134
This one is the GOAT.
God I fucking love competent characters written by intelligent people.
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>>741092873
I have gotten back into trying new books these past couple years after spending a while essentially just reading series I already liked or followed.

Obviously there's recommendations you pick here and there from family, friends, or even the odd thread on /v/ or /lit/. For your personal circle it depends, for 4chan well it's essentially the same stuff being recommended most of the time.

When I'm in a mood for a particular story I've asked ChatGPT once or twice, you can tailor your recommendation to a pretty high degree, and of course all you need to do is check if the book actually exist if it sounds interesting.

But the best way to go about it has not changed from the beginning. Go to a bookstore and look around for something that catches your eye. Make an effort to physically move off the shelves taken over by King or Martin. Yes you'll find duds. I can tell you I've been really wondering how some books I've picked up that way managed to get published at all. But when you strike gold it's the best feeling you can get as a reader.
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>>741095918
Jesus if you just recommend the book just recommend it. You don't have to prove how epic and based you are to a bunch of fags on 4chan
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>>741095703
That is the hardest part, trying to stand. But it'll be rather novel to read something written by another anon.
Well, something that isn't smut.
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>>741096084
I recommend the series, but I like mentioning these things because inevitably some other fag is going to point it out if I don't.
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>>741096084
>You don't have to prove how epic and based you are to a bunch of fags on 4chan
NTA, but pronouns are fucking retarded and black people/women being depicted as cool just because your ideology demands instead of them earning it are cringe.
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I guess this new round of jannies are absolute duds
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>>741082994
Any plans on making it an adaptation? Or is it strictly going to be in a book format
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>>741096327
https://www.webtoons.com/en/fantasy/dungeon-crawler-carl/list?title_no=8177
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A whole thread of people unironically saying they like a book called “Dungeon Crawler Carl”. Fucking hell, how do any of you function being this retarded?
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>>741096219 (you)
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>>741096614
It took me a couple of tries to get into the first book, but once you're in, you're in.
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>>741096662
Dont engage with bait
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>>741096630
Hey if you want to act retarded that's your prerogative. Just don't force the rest of us to behave like you.
There are plenty of books that contain cool black/female characters by the way. The Primal Hunter being one such example.
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>>741096614
I don't even know who 4chan is supposed to be for any more
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>>741096772 (you)
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sharty must've found the thread
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>>741080426
>>741080697
I do like in world meta stories. like south park wow episode, and those always sunny and the office episode where they make movies.
I imagine reading "the player put on armor for 2+ defence" could be stupid in a fun way
are these books good for that though?
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>>741096912
the south park wow episode is literally the only one i like
the rest are too scawy and ugly for me
the wow one was just weawwy funny
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>>741096795
It amazes me how you people act like literal children and still somehow think you have the moral high ground.
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>>741097080 (you)
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>>741096148
Oddly enough, I think my experiences here definitely shaped a lot of the tone of the book. Right now I'm sitting at 139k words in the final draft, which will be around 400 novel pages.

Maybe I should buy an ad around launch, because I think a lot of anons here would enjoy it.

General premise is a mage-in-training stumbles upon a conspiracy for an arcane superweapon. Dark urban fantasy, alternate history 1910's with some LitTPG elements.

This WIP here is a "nouveauknight," which is a classic of warrior that fights with both shield and gun. The artist is still trying to evoke that second part - I think her first attempt is more classical fantasy. Anyway, the inspiration for the book was "WW1 but with DND elements," because I thought the intersection of technology was interesting. Calvary charges with ballistic plate armor? Machine guns and zeppelins? Might as well throw a magic system in there too. So now it's the Great War with wizards and wunderwaffe.
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>Possibly the most kino book I've read this past decade
>It's only available in french
I'm sorry englishbros, you don't even know what you've lost, or more accurately never had.
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I wish we get the moomin and comet drpg
Each chapter is pretty much a dungeon with boss at the end.
Also I came for comfy friendly Finnish family, I didn't expect death, cabin fever, eschatonism and the whole Moominpapa at sea/valley in November double punch.
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>>741097463
>French
Keep it.
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>>741080426
>venture into a fantasy world and kill everything with modern weaponry
Would be perfect for it
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>>74109287
where the fuck do I find good human man/alien erotica??? no, I don't want emotions and feelings. i want lit where the big titty alien babe find human anatomy confusing and start sucking his cock to analyze it!!!
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>>741097463
If kino is part of your vocabulary I am certain I am not missing out on anything.
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>>741080426
>What are some non Vidya franchises/IP you think would make good Vidya?
Not good but certainly notable.
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>>741083621
Locally run bookstore but that's about it.
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>>741097696
Those eccentric covers reminds me of pic related haha
:)))))
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>>741097826
Ai could never
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>>741080426
Geniunly the most revolting op ive seen for quite some time, good job
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>>741096614
I tried reading it and its the most onions reddit epic bacon shit you can imagine. Like whatever you are imagining its worse than that
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>>741095281
(You) good DCC breakdown actually>>741083079
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>>741080798
>>741080801
Second book. The second half of book one is better than the first, but it's still mostly just pointless wondering around fighting random shit, but the "real world" plot starts mattering more, which is the real meat of things. Honestly, even the second book is still missing some of what makes the series great, as the cast is still pretty much just Carl, Donut, and Mordecai, and they're still very reactionary, when them being proactive is always the best part of any book.
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>>741097897
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>>741083079
my Malazan journey has been great but I also feel like I only internalized half the cast. Which is fine, because the book I'm in now is Anomader Rake kino and I just root for my fav characters. I willingly admit that I am not as well read as someone who, well, read it.
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>>741098032
I don't know why your (you)ing me but even if you meant it that doesn't tell me anything about the actual plot so no its not a good breakdown
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>>741089210
Some parts are really good, nice bit occultic story, prose is ok, unfortunately some current day-isms. Overall good book imo, have fun reading it anon.
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>>741098230
it was an accident I have fat amerimutt thumbs plz understand
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>>741083621
I buy the odd hardback if it's a series I'm invested in and expect a delay on piracy but I've been nearly exclusively pirating since I bought a Nook in the 2010s.
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We used to skin redditors alive for shit like this
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My hobby is shifting through endless trash on royalroad, hoping to find something good
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>>741098140
Lmao. Is this really the only good audio book app? I remember shifting through like 8 of them years ago and settled on that exact one
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>>741098424
i use that one too
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>>741098230
anon earlier wrote a decent synopsis
>>741082503
Carl is arguably the biggest contemporary "this society is garbage and we need to burn it all down" main character at the moment in fantasy lit.
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>>741098395
wats ur favo fanfic niggere
give password for it too i aint paying till that shit releases
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Some kind of schizo detective game like DE. Also, is there anything that compares to this book? As in horror/comedy/schizo stuff that's actually good?
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>>741098424
What app is it? I've not been super pleased with any of the audiobook stuff I've tried in the past.
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>reading officially published work
Couldn't be me
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>>741098424
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.ph1b.audiobook/
Simple, easy to setup, sane defaults, open source. It's great imo.
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>>741098645
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ak.alizandro.smartaudiobookplayer&hl=en_GB
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Anglos will never know the glory of Meekhan and that just makes me sad.
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>>741092873
for genre fiction? best off discussing novels online or maybe reading interviews with your favorite authors to see what they like
for >serious fiction, you can extend the latter approach to other art as well (i.e. if you like x film and it alludes to y book, you should read it)
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>itt: Anons pretending like they actually read.
Everyone knows reading is for nerds. We all just ask chatgpt to summarize the plot don't lie
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>>741097420
That knight sounds like a neat take on the classic. Consider a copy sold when you release.
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>>741098510
I filter out fanfic, sorry
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>>741096069
>When I'm in a mood for a particular story I've asked ChatGPT once or twice, you can tailor your recommendation to a pretty high degree, and of course all you need to do is check if the book actually exist if it sounds interesting.
I wonder if any librarians have had someone come in and ask for such-and-such book only to find it doesn't exist and was completely hallucinated by AI
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>>741091248
>pic
I went back to check on the state of it
god I forgot how badly paranatural went off the rails
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>>741089982
I've been intending to read Worm for years but I keep putting it off. Some day.
>>741098424
It really is. And the only thing that's half decent on windows is some 15 year old shit called Angel's Vox you can only find on archive.org with everything else being so insanely bloated it is unreal.
>>741098925
You're reading right now, checkmate nerd.
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>>741082503
I agree with this anon, it was interesting for the first four books but by book 6 I was burnt out on it. They're fast and easy reads and the audiobooks are good so it's got that going for it.
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Every single litrpg posted in this thread so far is basically the Skyrim equivalent of the genre, babby tier intro shit.

I wish reddit would leave.
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Well, /v/? You HAVE read the greatest work of American prose fiction, right?
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I've been thinking of getting into jap light novels but there are so few audiobooks. Saw one for konosuba and idk I might try that
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>>741083134
Ground hogs day is actually still an under explored premise despite edge of tomorrow and this series. There's so so so much room for dope shit.
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>>741099013
In fairness the few times I used ChatGPT for recommendation it did find real books. The only one I can actually remember at the moment is Something Wicked This Way Comes, which on the whole was a pretty good find.
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This would actually make a pretty cool game.
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>>741099007
owari dughghgghggh
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>>741099212
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRoP_u_1SpM
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>>741099293
I don't speak mandarin
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>>741099013
>and was completely hallucinated by AI
Pretty much impossible nowadays unless you use bottom-of-the-barrel AI models from two years ago.
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>>741098581
Holy shit, John Dies at the End being mentioned in 2026? Wild. Love that book. The sequel is solid, too. Wish I had suggestions for anything similar to it.
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>>741098424
yup. its also hilarious how much better than Audible it is (which I used for 5 years happily until $ wasnt worth anymore)
any Kobo chads? the h20 is my favorite daily device
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>>741098665
this but spacebattles
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>>741097578
hello?? please give me my hot alien lit please
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>>741083621
Physical books yes, I like having hardcovers. Audiobooks no. Was thinking of trying to get old Stephen King audiobooks before some celebrity reads them, since all audiobooks now have to be doom by some celebrity, so I could rip them but they are expensive.
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You guys are supposed to be talking about videogames. This is just a /lit/ thread!
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>>741099505
I have this exact model right next to me at this very moment. It's my ol' reliable. Super light, works for nearly weeks when you charge it up once and you can take it basically everywhere, it fear neither water nor sand, I probably dropped it in mud at some point and it didn't even notice.

I never understood why people fuss about getting new ebooks like they're getting new phone. What the fuck else do you need besides the ability to store an entire library and some way to turn the pages?
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>>741099427
Whatever bro, it has been translated in all the languages that matter so you have no excuse.
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>>741099723
worse - it's a (de facto) union between /sffg/ and /wng/
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>>741099592
>spacebattles
>censorship the site

QQ is where it's at.
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>>741098665
I'm sorry anon, I've been traumatized of decades of friends suddenly saying HEY ANON YOU'LL NEVER GUESS I WRITE FANFIC and god bless them I'm glad they're having fun and I'm glad others enjoy reading it but if I never am pressganged into reading another work in progress fanfic and/or erotic story again it'll be too soon
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Shit could be a sort of mission based game where each level is a different supernatural case that all connects to one bigger case. Weapons in the game could range from all the retarded weapons and shit John accumulates throughout the series like the custom sawed off shotgun with 7 barrels, 3 bayonets, and 7 laser pointers duct taped to it, t-shirt cannon loaded with an """authentic shroud of Jesus""", and baseball bat with a bible strapped to it with electrical tape to the weird exotic weapons they encounter like the fur gun from the second book and the elephant dick shaped brain scrambler gun the cloaks in the third book use.
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>>741083587
glad I'm not the only one that this exact thing happened to
someone at work said "you're a big gamer you'll like this it has gamer stuff" and started telling me the premise and it just sounds fucking awful
"wacky talking cat that says swears" isn't a selling point
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>>741099505
i have a kindle :)
i originally bought it thinking that i would be able to read latin shit on it (physical copies of these texts being freakishly elusive and expensive), but my resolve to learn that language has stalled - so now i just read wacky shit (lately, Sade's letters from the vincennes and bastille)
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Make it Vidya
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>Reading the first book after seeing the toys, concept sounded interesting
>Its ok but the quirk chungs HEY CHAMP stuff is getting annoying
>Put it down for a little bit
>Few days later, brother sends me an article about the author
>Apparently in one of the audio books, the critical drinker did a minor role
>Now that his series is gaining traction, matt says he is deeply regretful of this and hopes to re-record his lines in the future
>Take bookmark out and chuck the book in the donate box
If you want to pander to reddit by all means, but I won't support it. Tired of faggots suddenly being retro actively upset over things they had no issues before.
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>>741098665
>>741099592
>>741099831
>ff
Old and Busted. Has best writing quality on average. But also infested with bots and ground zero for ai slop.
>Ao3
Tumblr enclave, but also porn site. Tag autism is both it's best strenght and it's biggest weakness.
There really isn't that much difference between ao3 and ff since most things are crossposted anyway, you just don't have to deal with bots.
>Fiction Live (formerly Ankun).
Horrible to use, like shit, the UI is god awful. Also, most quest are just excuses for porn and don't get past 3 "chapters"
>Questionable Question
LitRPG garbage dump. I say litrpg as a general term for WaifuCatalog, CYOA shit, Essence, and mother of all horrors: Gamer System fics. Also probably fed honeypot. Fics become echo chambers.
>Wattpad
Bottom of the barrel. Actually awful. It's all "You x [favorite franchise]". Haven't read a single good story from this site.
>WebNovel
Literally Wattpad 2.0 but also has chinese xianxia shit. Literally backed up by the chink government.
>SpaceBattles/Terminal Velocity
Shit to use, but it's otherwise fine. Mods are a bit autistic and restrictive in what you can and can't show (forget about writing smut here or just being a 4chinner in general). Same thing with QQ about echo chambers, but without the porn.
>RR
QQ lite
>Misc Forums, specific pages hosting their own fics and anything else
Probably have the best stories, but good luck finding them in the first place.
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>>741100253
I don't care about any of this. Hope you're happy you got it off your chest though
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>>741100045
Comics reminds me, I'm still pissed at Amazon. Bought one of their crappy Fire 10 tablets or whatever and the damn thing didn't last a year before the battery exploded. I know it was cheap as hell but all I wanted was a cheap shitty tablet to read comics on and despite the strenuous workload of opening jpgs it still died that fast. Have been very happy with a kindle paperwhite though
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>>741100240
When You order it online it comes with a hammer you smash yourself in the side of the head with.
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I'm surprised Twilight Imperium and Infinity don't have any game made of their universes. Twilight Imperium could overtake Mass Effect in its impressive, lore-extensive universe, and Infinity can easily overtake Destiny 2 just the same.

Also, I'm sad that Warmachine/Warmahordes never got to have an MMO made of its setting. It hits everything that WoW has in that it has its savage/primal forces tapping from the Wyrm, along with the civilizational forces. Would be cool to play as a Warlock who upgrades their mechs with machinery/armaments, as well as a summoner who controls animals and their animalistic nature as a weapon.
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>>741080426
what is it with people latching on to complete garbage as an identity anyway?
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>>741100253
>Never heard of toys, why would they make toys
>Look it up
>Trying to push the "Goddamn it Donut" catchphrase
>Has a Borant logo
I guess it's funny that they're actively telling you not to buy them at least
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>>741100240
Still haven't finished this. I can't stand all the bits written by Johnny. On top of his annotations being basically borderline contradictory gibberish he strikes me as your typical unlikable California cuckold douchebag so I just kind of hate him as a character.
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>>741101093
Johnny's parts tend to have the highest highs and the lowest lows, yes.
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>>741100253
to be fair, the critical nigger did an absolutely awful job reading his part
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>>741100720
Huh??
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>>741100878
He says posting on 4chan
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>>741100253
i definitely recognised his obnoxious voice in the train book
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LOTM is apparently getting a game which if real and not some scam shit could be cool. I am just starting the last book and since it seems there may be a lot left to the sequel to resolve I was wondering if it is worth reading even if it is worse than LOTM or is it just straight up bad?
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>>741080426
When it's time to post book covers, this is the one I choose to post.
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>>741080426
>Good vidya
>A game where you win by being the most marketable piece of shit to the lowest common denominator
>Based off the game within the book
Nice b8 m8.
I like the book, but 5E has less filler than skills for a goddamn t.v. remote.
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>>741102243
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>>741080426
Dungeon Crawler Carl keeps showing up whenever i look for book recommendations but everything ive seen from it looks like its pure cringe milenial dialogue and le quirky and random reddit humor
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>>741102243
Why would he do this?
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>>741102148
Most important question is how much do you care about France and Italy in early 19th century.
It answers all the questions, has neat ideas and MC is subjectively superior(maximum trolling and conspiracies on top of conspiracies)
OTOH it is rushed and it is not as good as LOTM. First three books are amazing anyway and are worth it.
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>>741080426
lord of the redditors
>>741080697
straight dookie
>>741082780
wasnt bad at first but started huffing its own farts. also the obnoxious kind of woke, if I recall correctly
>>741083134
Gourmet shit, one of the all time greats
>>741084474
kinda nice, reminds me a lot of Worth the Candle, or perhaps vice versa
>>741098395
sisyphean, learn to let go, site's fuckin dead
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>>741092873
First you remove every book written before the late 90s. Then you remove from consideration every book written by woman. After that you look at the covers, judge the shit out of them by their covers, don't listen to that retarded saying. Then pirate some that seem interesting and try them out.
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>>741098665
This but Scribblehub
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>>741099194
Yeah I read the Grapes of Wrath years ago.
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>>741080426
Heard this shit is full of millenial LEMEMESXD LOLSORANDOM marvel quips style
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>>741098665
I only read crossover fanfics like "what if character from X got isekaid in Y".
Its slop but some really pleasantly surprise you with the character interactions.
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>>741099212
Those audiobooks would be based on official translations, and those on average fucking suck. Go find fan translations to read.
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>>741102645
HE'S DA DRACULA, BABY! BLEH!
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>>741102645
>The immortal dracula comes to your house opens up you attic and loudly sucks himself off all night
If I was dracula I would do shit like this just to fuck with people
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>>741080426
I hate this fucking slop. There is an absolutely daunting ammount of actual good media out there that I will never have time to enjoy. Can't imagine wasting time on this. My friend who used to be the only person who read as much as me now only listens to audio books of this drivel.
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>>741103096
As someone who's listened to the first audiobook, the author has a reddit gold account I'm sure. It is somewhat balanced out the world building grim circumstances of the dungeons. The worst it gets is two characters bonding over Gossip girls.
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>>741102670
Fair enough, I will give CoI a chance then.
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Peak burger isekai
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>>741096327
There's going to be a live action adaptation by Seth MacFarlane's studio, lol.
>>741089982
Worth the Candle's author's other stuff is also pretty good, I've read Thresholder and This Used to be About Dungeons and they're both fun, TUTBAD in particular is already almost a videogame premise.
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>>741100240
my house .wad
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>>741080426
>>741080697
litrpg reading subhumans deserve the rope
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>>741096614
there is a reason this board is full of reddit screenshot threads
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>>741098028
I got a coworker that listens to the audio books on patrol. He looks just like the onions glasses wojak, the bald one
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>>741095918
a truly awful book
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>>741099505
yeah I bought my first Kobo, a Clara BW, a few months ago after my Kindle Paperwhite's screen died out of nowhere. I never buy books and Kobo actually supports sideloading, unlike Kindle where you have to fight it to sideload. I don't like how having wifi on drains the Kobo's battery like 50% faster than when it's off, because that's something that never happened with my Kindle. But other than that I quite like it
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>>741104153
"Important and wonderful."- Kneel Gayman
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I wouldn't mind seeing some developers take a crack at adapting some dungeon core novels. They're basically base management sims already.
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>>741096772
>The Primal Hunter being one such example.
Is Jacob black or something, honestly I forgot
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>>741095281
That cover repulses me but everyone I know (Bros I respect). All tell me it’s good.

MC in his underwear with a heckin’ cat-o-rino just scream reddit to me.
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>>741102645
Because obviously if you've got the ability to suck your own dick you're going to suck your own dick. Don't lie, you'd do it too if you could.
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>>741102243
Average female smut novel
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>>741105165
Name one that isn't a cringe fest.
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>>741105389
My dick smell to bad for that
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>>741105882
try washing it?
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>>741105817
Pic related. I read up until the point some admin or whatever came and waved his dick around.
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>>741106280
And admit defeat?
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>>741080426
A Parade of Horribles kind of sucked. I get the feeling the series is never going to reach the highs of Butchers Masqurade again. Hell, This Inevitable Ruin was too much of a curbstomp in Carl's favor for what we were promised.
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>>741082780
I liked the rare subversion of a smug liberal realising that he's nowhere near as smart as he thinks he is, but holy fuck the skill descriptions completely ruin it as the series goes on.
Action scenes become completely unreadable because literally every skill used comes with an ever more length description.
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>>741095281
>DCC
>Woke
Book 3 has The Critical Drinker in the audiobook and the girlboss feminist crawler gets fucked up and killed while trying to murder an innocent man just because he's a man.
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>>741080426
give me book of the new sun but it's just cooking mama tier torture mini games: pulling teeth and nails, changing bandages, beheadings.
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>>741080697
>>741082780
>most popular litrpgs are actually stealth xianxias
Makes you think
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>>741082780
So does he fight monsters or does he fight using monsters?
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I'd play this.
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Yes I know it's literally just SCP but I would kill for an SCP vidya franchise to get off the ground.
If you have to sand all the names off to do it I'm fine with that
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Any litrpgs with a scifi or moder edge?
Or horror?
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>>741106369
This one is actually really good surprisingly.
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>>741105165
Describe dungeon core
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>>741107691
I like Outrun, the first book is stubbed but you can find it here annas-archive.gl
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>>741107413
Video games might be the best medium for an adaptation of the Book of the New Sun, but it would need to be a "retro graphics" game so that the player is never quite sure what he's looking at.
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>>741107274
The AI went completely off the rails far too early.
Parade entirely lacked the angle of the outside forces throwing a spanner in the works by shamelessly cheating and getting out manoeuvred in turn.
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/v/ Book Club Sunday? Yay! What novels are you reading right now?
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Is /v/ hyped for the Mistborn video game and the many other Cosmere video games that are likely to follow?
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Weaveworld could be a tactical RPG
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>>741108338
Brandon Sanderson is a fucking hack. Literally, *literally* just Stephen King for fantasy readers and coasted by incredibly hard on the leftist contempt for Harry Potter that was trashing book circles last decade. I remember someone telling me that his prose and worldbuilding per paragraph was insanely deep, and when I actually got my hands on Words Of Radiance, it was just walls of unreadably boring glop. Smart writers know how to boil down their shit to the essentials.
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My girlfriend is reading these books. She keeps telling me to read them.
Everything I see and read about them just makes me think they are utterly retarded, and that it'd be something I have no interest in.
I don't even take issue with "rpg" stories at its core. This just reeks of millennial writing to me (just the fact that he travels with his pet cat "Princess Donut" should be enough to get this point across.), and its that which I know I couldn't stand.
Even an online critic I generally agree with enjoyed these books though, so I don't know. But I still think they will suck and not be worth investing my time into, especially since I don't read at a particularly quick pace unless I really enjoy a book.
>>741098665
Website that ruined an entire generation of writers.
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>no WoT book where you play as an Ashaman with a sexy Aes Sedai you bonded and fight the Dark One's hordes in the Last Battle for the glory of the Dragon Reborn
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>>741108496
>I remember someone telling me that his prose
Unless they were completely delusional, you got trolled.
His prose is easily his weakest facet as a writer, and even his fans recognise it. Well, that and pandering to the people who murdered fantasy and replaced it with romantasy dogshit, but you'll have fewer of his remaining fans willing to admit that one.
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>>741108496
>I remember someone telling me that his prose and worldbuilding per paragraph was insanely deep
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I'll have to admit, I love a specific subgenre of "an overly competent but overspecialised teenager infiltrates a noble academy as a spy and learns social skills and the power of friendship there".
Pic related is a great example of that. MC is really fun, all the side characters are too. It also has a kuudere princess.
Some people say the cover and title are lame. If you agree, then ignore that, the story is good. Also, MC is really quippy, but it makes sense for his character.
I seriously didn't expect it to be this well-written.
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>>741107691
to specify, I'm talking about this Outrun
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/79822/outrun-cyberpunk-litrpg
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>>741108824
Another example of a great book series in that specific subgenre. The only downside is that the translations come out slow as fuck.
It begins kinda generic, but the characters open up after a while and the politics involved are pretty interesting. In general, it's a book that just thrives as it starts going into detail about the world and characters.
Also, Monica is cute.
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>>741108334
Just finished re-reading Dune.
Mostly went back to it because I never read Messiah and I want to before the next movie comes out, which I will be starting next.
Its funny because I read the first book because I thought the aesthetics of the movie looked really cool and it made me curious. Loved the book, and then saw the films. At the time I thought "Those films got pretty close, minus the stupid gender swap of Kynes and a few things they had to cut for obvious time constraints"
And while I still think they are pretty good, they either cut a lot more than what I remember, or I barely remember what they included in the second movie. I'll probably rewatch them at some point
After I finish Messiah I will probably return to The Wheel of Time for a bit.
>>741108338
I've heard those books are good, but in the same breath I've heard that hes kind of become a "modern western writer" in a negative sense in recent years. Disappointing, but unsurprising. Might still give some of his books a shot sometime though. Can't be worse than any other contemporary fantasy novels from western writers these days.
>>741108496
Saw some excerpt from one of his books, someone commenting about a therapist and "not knowing what that was" when questioned. It seemed very much like a weird Marvel quip. But when I learned it was from one of his most recent books, it made sense given what I just mentioned.
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>>741108886
>Want to read the MT Light Novel
>Known for its poor translation in the west
>No revisions ever been made even in updated "special releases"
>No full fan-translation to fix the issue as far as I'm aware.
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>>741108125
The mc operates a dungeon. The specifics from title to title can vary greatly. They usually don't have the means to go outside of their domain and get stronger by killing invaders, but again, this isn't true for all of them.
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>>741083765
With shitty books you can mentally filter out a lot of what makes them shit, so long as it’s not part of the core premise.
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>>741109262
I'm always amazed about how many genres there are out there. Like that sounds like a great premise for a book but you're saying there are multiple books that fit this unique niche. that's amazing
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>>741108334
I picked up the villains code series for a journey, and was very pleasantly surprised. The premise raises a whole host of red flags, but then it turned out to be primarily a series about the importance of fatherhood and accepting the consequences of your actions.
It clearly needs an editor, since the show don’t tell violations frankly take the piss sometimes, but overall i was happy with it.
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For me it's this nigga with an axe.
The prose is pretty meh but I love the world building and how the power creep is handled.
Overall a nice mix of vidya and chinkshit systems.
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>LitRPGs
I don't get these at all. Fantasy is a genre that kind of lives or dies based on the legitimacy of the fantasy world. And here you have people just blatantly throwing in video game shit.

You know, there HAVE actually been whole book series before this that were based around some friends sitting around and playing an RPG together, but they tried to translate that into a legitimate fantasy world and adventure. Like in the Dragonlance novels, the guy who played the wizard rolled a 2 for Constitution and so they wrote up a backstory for him where he had gone through magical trials that granted him great power at the cost of leaving his body frail and sickly with an unnatural golden hue.
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>>741099440
>two years ago
I had ChatGPT hallucinate an article just the other day. Granted, it wasn't a book, but it does still fuck up (and I refuse to pay for a premium version).
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I just don't have the time to sit down and read bro...
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>>741109827
What's mind boggling is litrpgs have these giant state sheets and shit that the author will put into the novel. Any normal human being has their eyes glaze over and skips it but there are some spastic autists who will audit the wall of numbers and write angry comments about it.
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>>741110017
Don't put stat sheets if you are smart enough to actually use the stat sheets in your story.
I don't even do this but if the author is autistic enough to put it in then it should at least be accurate
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Updated take on this book: this book is overrated. I understand why it was recommended to me, and the movie is better, but the book is just a kinda corny political thriller/monster mash with awful toilet humor. Shoutout to the scene with Shitload in the casino that was pretty much the only thing that got cut from the adaptation.
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>>741108824
I really like this one so I guess I'll check out this >>741108886 on then.
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>>741100253
Normally, someone smart enough to write a successful novel series should be smart enough not to hire an eceleb calling himself something as retarded as "Critical Drinker." I understand his regret on that level.
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>>741109827
It’s a one two combo of traditional fantasy being murdered and Isekai getting popular enough to copy.
Fantasy pretty much only exists in self publishing now, but that means the barrier to entry and professional gatekeeping is practically non existent, which in turn rewards authors who can write quickly and consistently over those who are particularly original.
This ultimately leads to them turning to litrpg, which much like Isekai allows an author to essentially bypass the worldbuilding phase entirely by lifting it from somewhere else and filing a few serial numbers off.
It’s also why most of the ones that retain popularity tend to downplay the litrpg element pretty quickly once they’ve got momentum.
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>>741080426
Couldn't stand DCC, but I really dislike litrpgs. That said, I probably wouldn't've liked it regardless.
It makes it challenging to find stuff on AO3/FFN/SB/SV/QQ/SH/WN/RR when I'm avoiding litrpg, AI garbage, and haremshit (for the most part; it's the one I can tolerate if other stuff is good, but it generally correlates to dogshit). Gonna end up on goodreads one of these days looking for something published.
As a consequence of sticking to majority fanfiction sites and those with a heavy eastern influence, every thing I'd want to see as a game either already is, would be tied in with some movie garbage put out by Disney or some similarly shitty company, or it'd just be wuxia Return of the Crazy Demon game is one I'd play though, just to get more of the main character in that..

>>741102243
That's a new one for me. I'll contribute a classic.
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Books are just such a huge fucking timesink for questionable gains. When I remember FF6, I remember that fantastic OST, the beautiful spritework, the thrilling gameplay in additions to the great story and characters, which is the only thing I'll remember about a book.
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>>741080426
>>741080697
Two greats for different reasons.
>>741082994
It's so good at capturing emotions. There's panels of Donut breaking down that gut you and Carl's growing rage feel like you're going to drown in an abyss.
>>741083621
Yes.
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>>741109827
From my interpretation, Fantasy and LitRPG are different genres.
At least, thats what I assume.
Much like how in anime/manga "Fantasy" and "Game Isekai" are different genres. While both may have magic and elves, one relies heavily on a video game style setting and "mechanics" within the world. But they are often separated from actual true fantasy settings.
Additionally D&D campaigns can sometimes turn into great novels when tweaked to fit the medium. Maybe I should check out Dragon Lance sometime.
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>>741108338
I'm cautiously hyped for the Skyward TV series. Love me some good dogfights.
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>>741110182
The problem with books, speaking as a writer with a hit fanfic under my belt and ~20 years of experience, is that only something like 9% of novels are actually worth reading because literature is the medium of choice for morons and people with gore fetishes, because they can't draw or make video games. I would recommend finding a specific author who has a book recommended by a source you trust related to an existing property you're into, and looking at a picture of his face, then reading all his books, if you like his face. Alternatively, just read Harry Potter.
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>>741110273
>tfw you reread it and realise post tutorial William was an extended wimp lo reference
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>>741110458
Even as I kid I felt like Harry Potter fell off a cliff after book 4. Book 6 almost tried to bring it back, but 5 and 7 are just miserable.
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>>741110680
Frankly, just read books 1 to 3. Maybe 4.
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DCC is a fun read. The problem with most litRPGs is that writers make their MC too over-powered or every challenge they come across is trivial. Power fantasies are fun if written right, such as overcoming impossible odds with ease yet the main character still dealing with an internal struggle. That struggle being what it means to be a man who should be a woman, or the reason why they care to be on their path of power, or some other deep philosophical reason thats lightly brought out throughout the story.

At least with dungeon crawler Carl, there's more going on than just the idea of being stuck in a video game and progressing.

I liked Ivan Kal's blade of the infinite realm. Its a fun read.
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>>741100283
>Tag autism is both it's best strenght and it's biggest weakness
AO3 would be 300% better if they culled redundant tags and enabled community tag voting like sadpanda has. A robust tagging system is potentially godlike, but when it's solely on the author to know and include tags, you can't fucking use it because you'll inevitably miss so much.
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>>741104980
glad I revisited the thread to see a few other kobiggas
you are 100% right the user access is android to kindle's ios, so much available
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>>741107413
charles carrol from mde of all places put me on these and jack vance (Emphyrio is literally every anon)
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>>741096503
Wtf, are all webtoons like this? Where's the dialogue? I would have no clue what was going on if I didn't read the books
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>>741110934
I have to agree, it's just a never ending cluster fuck and them always being seconds from complete disaster. seeing them navigate the situations is part of the fun, even times they were overpowered there was still a lot at stake.
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>>741110934
Imo the main power wank litmus tests are to first ask if there are people on the MC’s level who could pose a threat in a fair fight, and secondly ask if there are other characters who possess bullshit on a similar level to the MC’s bullshit.
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>>741107413
I have the four hardcover book club editions on my shelf, need Urth book 5 still
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>>741110934
>such as overcoming impossible odds with ease yet the main character still dealing with an internal struggle
Maybe, but only if the author doesn't constantly go on about how traumatized the main character is. Internal struggle is a lot more prone to hamfistedness than other avenues of conflict imhofam, at least in the amateur sector. I'd much rather have a straightforward powerfantasy romp than be confronted with a writer that just has MC droning about "muh trauma" either through the narrator's 3PP or actual dialogue. Can't stand that shit. Establish that the character's immortality has left them bereft of the means to form meaningful connections and then show them gradually overcoming that, maybe with some stumbles along the way. But every fucking time a writer does this (or anything remotely similar), they feel the need to constantly remind the reader that "HEY THIS CHARACTER IS SUPER DOWN AND LONELY, AND IF ONLY THEY WERE ABLE TO CONNECT AND DEAL WITH THE IMPERMANENCE OF OTHERS' LIVES. HEY DON'T FORGET BEFORE I BRING THIS UP THE CHAPTER AFTER NEXT." A bit of fucking trust that the reader will understand what's going on and a little fucking subtlety. Please
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>>741083079
No. It's passive entertainment that requires no brainpower ike watching the movie version of the book
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>>741082780
Usually this genre burns me out around the 3rd or 4th book, but I feel like its finally hit its barrier with the latest book. I'm gonna give the next one a shot for the inevitable Earth rampage arc, but my hopes are pretty low with how much the MC has changed, what the power level has shifted to, and how overinflated the cast will become.
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>>741110934
You're the only person I've ever seen mention Infinite Realm (it's not "Blade of the"). I wish he would finish the series already. I read some of his other stuff like his mecha fantasy-in-space and the Tower of Power.
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>>741102243
Dracula could do this anywhere but he wants here to know, what did she do to piss Dracula off?
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>>741102510
>Dungeon Crawler Carl keeps showing up whenever i look for book recommendations but everything ive seen from it looks like its pure cringe milenial dialogue and le quirky and random reddit humor
Yeah it's puerile garbage, actual trash. Some people really do just enjoy eating shit.
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>>741080426
>DCC
got tired of videogame fantasy years ago when it got popular in anime.
Miss me with the american version
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>>741110934
I haven't read DCC but that's why I like The wraiths haunt series. The MC isn't so overpowered that he just slaps down every threat he sees. Infact he's generally underpowered compared to his antagonists and wins through guile or strategy or teamwork most of the time.
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>>741108334
reading J R by william gaddis. funny little novel
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I'm enjoying Hard Rayne right now.
Russian cyborg spy does cyberpunk spy things in China and things go very wrong as she has to try and figure out what's going on and who wants to kill her so much.
The action sequences would be worth playing through.
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I'd like to see games about CL Moore's worlds. Probably horror games about exploring the Black God Realm under Jirel's castle or the Scarlet Dream fucked up land with vampire grass. I'll even accept h-games about banging all alien/monster girls NW Smith encounters.
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Kawakami Minoru Kino
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>>741080426
https://youtu.be/4-7u3C-y0Mo?si=jzjGq0iWk-9w1wBn
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>>741112623
Best Russian isekai?
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>>741112687
I've never read it myself, sorry. It's made for a very specific audience.
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>>741096614
I listen to a lot of audio books. DDC is one of the more entertaining ones.
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>>741097558
GATE mentioned!
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>>741083621
If I like the author enough. I like having the physical books and watching them stack up and down as I go through them.

>>741108334
100 pages into Devils. I forgot how much I hate Russian names and dimunitives, they're impossible to remember properly.
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I decided to read the RE novels and inadvertently began C:V around the time that the remake was announced which has spoiled some parts for me lol no I have not played the games.
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>>741110182
If only there were some sort of established literary canon that could easily provide you with more than enough worthwhile books to read for a decade while you develop your own sense of what is and isn't good based on intuition. But sadly, no such thing exists.
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>>741114887
i feel it's worth noting that a lot of the "western canon" consists of tired and trite realist novels written by nobles trying to posture as worldly. if i looked up "best books ever all time" and picked out like dickens, austen, and the brontes as my first ever serious fiction, i would think that the hobby sucks ass and is for retards. sometimes it helps to start out with something a little wackier
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>>741115106
I always thought moby dick was good good until I read it.
It's certainly has its moment but holy shit it really is just hundreds of pages of whaling bullshit
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>>741099212
are you really so low IQ that you can't read a goddamn LN by yourself
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>>741092087
>argumentum ad populum
70 IQ opinion.
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>>741115479
Id rather use the sit down time I have for vidya.
Either way being elitist about how someone consumes books is very gay.
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>>741115106
>i feel it's worth noting that a lot of the "western canon" consists of tired and trite realist novels written by nobles trying to posture as worldly. if i looked up "best books ever all time" and picked out like dickens, austen, and the brontes as my first ever serious fiction, i would think that the hobby sucks ass and is for retards.
Something else I've also noticed is when people say "good writing" they default to how those types of novels read as examples. The more realist and dry the novel the better its written in their minds.
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>>741080426
Kafka's The Trial could make a fun RPGMaker style videogame where you just walk around town and are given incomprehensible side quests that never end. His style is so close to wandering around an RPG town and talking to weird random people that I think it would work.
Or do The Castle where you make a really cool combat/movement system but you never get to use it because you can't progress past the tutorial.
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>>741098028
>Reddit shit
I have a hard time understanding what anons are even talking about when they call things reddit since I don't use it. What does onions reddit bacon mean in this context?
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>>741115929
"It's popular with normies therefore I must hate it in principle"
They'll add in some actual criticism about the dialogue and humor but the main point is that.
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>>741080426
Clair Obscure should have leaned harder into its inspirations.
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>>741110934
>The problem with most litRPGs is that writers make their MC too over-powered or every challenge they come across is trivial.
I've been feeling that a bit with DCC as far as I've gotten into it. I know some of it was planted in book 1 or 2 with talk about Carl picking a good long-term race and Donut picking a good long-term class, but even with the special circumstances of the faster paced dungeon upping the power levels they make a big deal over how the show is ridiculously expensive because of all the high tech shit they use to gamify everything, and how it's been going for thousands of years, and in ALL that time it's rare for crawlers to even make it to the 9th level, etc. And then here comes big dick Carl to row row fight the power. DCC is a lot like Harry Potter for me in that I really enjoy the story if I don't give it any thought. Hero triumphing against impossible odds is standard for stories but I can't help but feel he should splat and then you find his first person narration for the book was all him writing in the cookbook and it's some new crawler reading it
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>>741116054
Rundown?
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>>741096614
It's not high literature, but it's entertaining. People can enjoy things, and trying to seem above everything on an anonymous board is kind of pathetic, don't you think?
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>>741108338
I can't imagine mistborn making a good game if it tried to be faithful at all. How would the movement system even work?
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>Reading a web novel
>Enjoying the intro and find the premise interesting
>MC gets a sidekick character
>Sidekick is some flavor of quirky lesbian, marvel quipper, whiny, useless, or all the above
>Is for sure going to be a series staple and drag everything else down
I hate millennial writing so, SO much.
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>>741109218
Just read the web novels? They're still out there.
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>>741108338
>Hmm... what to name my main character
>Well... he is both a warrior and a healer
>And even in the dark world he lives in, he tries to live my a moral code to protect the weak and innocent and uphold some sense of honor
>And he helps re-found an old knightly order that draws divine power from taking and upholding oaths
>Yes! I've got it! "Kaladin!" You've done it again, Brandon!
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I love webnovels
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>>741080801
>I like it so far except for some shitty jokes about incels and anti-vaxxers.
>anon just straight up lying about the contents of the book for no reason
wtf
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It would be a cool rpg or RTS even
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>>741116562
Are they not the same?
My only experience is with the anime, but I really liked it.
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>>741116874
Web novels are usually the most "true" you can get with a translation. So if you're worried about that sort of thing, go to the web novels.
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>>741116524
Really? I don't see all that many sidekicks in WNs. I can't even remember the last time I saw one. And lit seems like esbian characters in male MC webnovels are crazy rare (unless it's smut, and they're "lesbians" there for LGD) since it's like 85% haremshit
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>>741115502
When it's comes to the language, ad populum is perfectly valid.
retard.
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>>741116781
I got made fun of for reading these as a kid
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Are litRPGs just western isekai?
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>>741080426
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>>741117114
The western webnovel scene has been steadily stealing shit from its eastern counterpart for like a decade now. Litrpgs are less isekai and more systemshit.
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>>741117114
This is the Western Isekai.
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>>741117126
For some reason, this just makes me want to start reading Battletech books assuming they exist
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>>741117345
>assuming they exist
BOY, DO THEY
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Reject Litrpg
Embrace space opera with autistic levels of lore
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>>741117440
Nice, I'll have to look into that
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>>741117114
No, that would be Alice in Wonderland, The Chronicles of Narnia, The Wizard of Oz et al. It's typically referred to as "portal fantasy". LitRPG is western shoelacer slop. There's a difference.
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>>741108758
disgusting
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>>741109827
Hey how come Flint didn't get a cover spot?
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>>741116590
This is easier to do with Tolkien than it is with Sanderson, and Tolkien is clearly the better writer. Hardly a knock against the guy for coming up with an easy, cool-sounding name.
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>>741108758
How do you not cringe at your own writing when you look at your word processor and see that?
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>>741116178
The 23 members of the 34th expedition, all experts trained for very specific roles, track against the magical wind that ravages their world trying to find its source after the previous 33 have failed or given up. Trained since childbirth they start at most downstream city and spent the next decades tracking upstream against milder forms of the wind hoping to gain enough experience to survive the extreme ends of the world.
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>>741108758
>Nazgul being an Ultimafag for ye olde speake since he got turned into a ghost in the relatively ancient past so it's fitting he speaks an older form of the language
Tolkien just can't help but be gigakino

At least, we THINK the witch king was turned ages ago. *Wink*
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>>741118178
Sounds cool. But are they going up against just wind? Are there monsters?
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>>741118313
Something like that.
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>>741097463
English bros never had access to classics in tons of other languages so they're used to it. Shout out to Naheulbeuk and Reflet d'Acide though.
>Gagner la guerre
I've heard good things about it, but are the follow-up books good too? I see that they only came out a couple of years ago so I'm a bit worried
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>>741118769
Ahh, Japanese wood block art, the true enemy.
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>>741090516
GOOGLE THE NAME NIGGA. That shit is real.
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>>741097463
kino is not an adjective you dumb third worlder
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Would anyone here recommend these bad boys?
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>>741120745
Neat, that art on the left was also the cover art for the last Spectrum book before they fucking died and they apparently didn't print enough of them because the fuckers sold out and got stupidly expensive before I could buy one despite my NEARLY COMPLETE SPECTRUM COLLECTION ON THE SHELF SO HELP ME FUCKING GOD I KNOW I'VE GOT VARIOUS OTHER ART BOOKS BUT I WAS TRYING TO COMPLETE THOSE FUCKERS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>741090516
Why wouldn't it be real?

One of the most influential fantasy writers is "Michael Moorcock"
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>>741083621

Yeah, why?
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>>741083621
Yes, and I buy physical copies if I can.

This might be stupid paranoia, but I don't trust technology not NOT get more intrusive over time and I have this weird fear that if all my books were PDFs, one day there would be some kind of mandatory "update" to my computer that would sweep my computer for said PDFs and delete or "correct" them for copyright or banned content or whatever. The internet panopticon can't reach my physical books.
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>>741099456
>Wish I had suggestions for anything similar to it.
Tales From the Gas Station is the obvious one. Shit, I'm pretty sure it's even directly inspired by John Dies at the End (albeit more toned down) given all the similarities.
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>>741083621
Yeah. I almost bought There Is No Antimemetics Division twice.
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>>741098581
>>741099456
>>741123415
JDatE sucks. I’m sorry.
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>>741115929
I don't use reddit either but it's basically this shit:
>Wholesome chungus
le hecking snooty talking cat with stupid name, wholesome pet dinosaur, etc.
>unfunny edginess played for laughs
basically everything the AI says before it starts going crazy.
>marvel quipping everything
>pop culture references
>excessive sarcasm
mainly Donut
>forced "this is for the screenplay" moments
every time Dinniman tells us what song is playing
>annoying trashy 1 note character nobody should like played for laughs
the talking sex doll head who is literally the most important NPC in the dungeon
>over the top everything just for the sake of it
to be fair this is the only actual appeal this shit has
>terminal levels of irony poisoning
a lot of the the above is kinda half ironic(Donut is putting on an act and really isn't that cringe, the unfunny edginess is goy slop for the dystopian alien viewers not us, etc.), except at the same time it wants you to think you're stupid for liking any this shit it's also pretty much daring you to enjoy it genuinely as hard as it can.
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>>741083621
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.en.html
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>>741080426
This book is pure fucking drivel.
Epitome of reddithumor.

>>741087310
We already have Dante'a inferno and Daek Souls, which is pretty close.
Damn good book though, shame the Blacktongue Thief wasn't nearly as good.
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>reading Carl
>it's okay
>the first evil human is an ICE agent
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>dungeon crawling games are so shitty that you need to write a book fantasizing about a good one
are there no good ones already?
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>>741124718
there's an actual dark souls novel. look up masque of vindication.
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>>741124839
murdering innocent people gave them a bad rep...
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>>741117257
>douchey rapist
>can't do shit about it because he's the chosen one

Thomas Covenant is Rance played for Drama.
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>>741124839
>>741124940
the first book was written like 6 years ago
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>>741088328
Bad news, the first book is great, but it's only downhill from there. The second book answers all the questions from the first book in the worst way, and it just keeps getting worse in the later books.
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>>741124940
that would be a shame if it happened desu
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>>741125112
Oh we're still doing that bit
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>>741108334
My favorite Sci Fi webwriter/Porn Author finally started a new arc within his series, and I am chomping at the bit with every 2000 word update each day
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>>741125068
>what if half of the entire book centered around a jew
>what if the other half centered around a faggot poet
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>>741108758
>Comparing the greatest fantasy book ever written to some contemporary novel series
I mean, no matter what book you compare Tolkien to he will always come on top, kind of pointless to even do.
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>>741081529
>>741081726
>>741082994
isekai lns for westoids
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>decades of rpg fans defensively seething IT'S NOT JUST NUMBER GO UP
>book genre comes out that succeeds entirely on the appeal of hehe number go up
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>>741117345
There's a fuckton, they have a lot of interesting political intrigue ala Babylon 5. I read and enjoyed the clan war books a while back, 3050 era or so.
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I'm something of a Romance fan myself
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>>741108758
I hate Sanderson so goddamn much and the fucking reddit r/fantasy faggots who love this YA ass slop. mfer doesn't give a shit about the story beyond slop tier worldbuilding and whatever magic system he came up with and his characters have the depth of cardboard. Also his prose is straight ass.
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Do any of these books have the whole skill system thing but the skills are actually unique instead of just generic things like "stealth" or "strength boost"
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>>741124940
What kind of world do we live in where you can't hit a law enforcement officer with your car because you don't like immigration laws being enforced? That's literally fascism.
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>>741091727
Exactly my problem. It was my first litrpg so I have a soft spot for him, but after reading pic related and OP I understood how annoying Jason was.
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>741125921
Post a video game or book you politics obsessed faggot.
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>modern literature is just horny shit for women or power fantasy chink shit for men
God it's so fucking beyond grim.
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>>741120745
God no. Nothing in recent memory has affirmed my commitment not to read woman authors more.
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>>741126297
It's not chink shit, it's PROUD AMERICAN LITERATURE (ripping off chink shit)
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>>741125992
Now this is some high quality sloppa
Loved this series, should catch back up to it. Took a break after the big usurpation moment.
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>>741125797
Of course there are. I'd probably have a specific recommendation for you if I wasn't already writing my own and not reading many myself.
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>reading the weirkey chronicles
>it's alright
>then senka gets introduced
I fucking hate quirky lolsorandumb chungus characters, good lord
Her character does get more tolerable, but still
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>>741126297
Anon has eyes but cannot see mt rushmore
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>>741126297
Weak times create a strong desire to conquer exotic lands and fuck alien women and all that
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>>741080928
>>741084327
I used to imagine a Percy Jackson game playing like kh2 when I was a kid
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>>741126297
This picture makes me sad because I have smashed that remain ignorant button too many times.
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>>741126365
>>741128414
>>741128509
NTA, but he clearly means that instead of following our own literary tradition, popular lit is copying anime, specifically isekai. The West has its own "male power fantasy" tradition that's being wholly ignored for "WOAAAOOH I WAS TAKEN INTO A VIDEO GAME WORLD" shit.
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>>741117257
The bad end of Dredge reminds me of Staff of Law

>gather artifacts
>use them to revive someone
[Spoiler]Also you just broke death, good job retard.[/spoiler]
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>>741126297
Return to tradition
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>>741080426
>Dungeon Crawler Reddit

Honestly, I looked at this book series, and the author has like 12 books in the series or some shit. I guess he's going for some Wheel of Time legacy, but the fact he can pump out books with consistency says something as most authors can't even pump out three books' series, or just completely abandon them altogether.

Looking at you, Patrick Rothfuss. Door of Stone I guess will be ready when it's ready, right? Before you die? In 2032? The Wise Man's Fear was released in 2011.
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I didn't expect to see a thread like this here.
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>>741111060
>reading charles carrol
IF THERE BE HERE LESSON OR MORAL, IT LIES BEYOND THE COMPETENCE OF HIM WHO INSCRIBES THIS RECORD
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>>741129265
>The West has its own "male power fantasy" tradition
You mean like western comics? The media format that hasn't evolved a single bit over the past three decades?
Do you even know why no one reads western comics anymore besides boomers? It's because they don't offer anything new and are oftentimes used as a way to preach instead of offering entertainment.
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>>741096503
What a fuck ugly format.
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>>741130078
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>>741084176
Don't know how Kindles work exactly but Kobo ereaders download your shit the moment they pick up that you bought a book. Make sure you actually have them downloaded.
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>>741130138
You seen none sonny boy
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>>741124839
Based illiteratechad immediately throwing the book into the trash instead of actually reading the story and learning the ICE agent was a real human bean
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>>741130051
>You mean like western comics?
No, I mean like novels. I literally posted Conan.

Here, you want some super generic, derivative trash that was a YA bestseller back not too long ago? Look at Eragon and the "Inheritance Cycle." Young boy who lives on a farm discovers that he's the chosen one dragon rider who can wield the magic sword and is literally bound by fate to fuck the elf princess. It was basically the trash YA fantasy novel distilled to its essence. That's what I mean when I say that the West had its own "male power fantasy" tradition. This was the generic trash from back then.
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>>741110163
sounds plausble enough, what a sad state of affairs
i once thought it was bad enough to see mindless copies of dwarves and elves and robed wizards for no other reason than "tolkien had those", but now that shameless hacks got to bootlegging videogame rules for their fictional settings my sadness is beyond compare
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I only read LNs, VNs and Fanfics.
I literally have the literary taste of a middleschooler and i'd say a middleschooler has read more classics than i've done.
How do i graduate into becoming a real literature reader.
I have a copy of Don Quixote and Paradise Lost that i borrowed from my parent's house. I'll admit i've been reading Factotum by Charles Bukowski every now and then, and i've had my eyes on The Count of Montecristo.
What else?
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>>741130750
>No, I mean like novels. I literally posted Conan.
Anon, that's stuff from nearly 70 years ago; that tradition is long dead. Even Eragon is from nearly 25 years go.
I feel like you're just some retarded, bitter boomer who can't let go of the past because he can't enjoy new things because his brain has rusted shut.
You want my advice? Take Lion's Mane supplements and pray that your brain gets better.
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>>741130876
>How do i graduate into becoming a real literature reader.
You don't, because all "real" literature is pretentious people writing pretentious things for their pretentious audience. You don't read those writings to enjoy them, you read them to gain a sense of superiority over those who haven't read them.
Honestly, the closest you'll ever get is reading old science-fiction. Asimov, for example, remains one of the greatest writers in history because he understood that art should be enjoyable for its own sake (and even he dips his toes in the waters of pretentiousness at times).
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>>741130941
>Anon, that's stuff from nearly 70 years ago; that tradition is long dead. Even Eragon is from nearly 25 years go.
"Literature these days has gone to hell" was literally the point. The fact that this shit was made a hot minute a go is what we're getting at. The Western literary culture is now in such a low state that it's now taking cues from the most garbage anime genre.

The first Eragon book was from 23 years ago, but the last was 15 years ago, so while its not current (which is the point) it's not exactly ancient either. Most kids these days are still playing video games that old if not older.
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>>741083134
Perfect Run is the best timeloop book out of these ProgFantasy/LitRPG royalroad products.
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>>741131175
It's one of the best, but only because there isn't much else. Mother of Learning remains the best timeloop slop.
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>>741131135
t. hasn't realized society has gone through a massive upheaval the last five years
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>>741131292
For the decidedly worse.
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>>741083621
how else am i going to read them on public transport ? there is no way im staring into the goy screen. most of the time im highlighting stuff as well
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>>741102148
Late into the thread, but CoI is at least worth starting. Its second book is probably the best one across both series, but the author got sick of writing it after a while. Third book got cancelled, all cliffhangers got an unsatisfying conclusion or were ignored, last chapter is an apology/rant about how much he hates writing sequels and will never write another one ever again, "sorry the ending is shit, but I'm done"
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>>741080426
This has to be the most r*ddi*t book of all time
>Omg is that a heckin cat that talks???
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>>741130876
if you are indeed so divorced from established literature that you don't have a single "i might want to read that" book in my mind, then i recommend plays
they are nothing but dialogues, quite short, and decently clever entertainment from their respective eras (in constrast to some long ass pseudohistorical novel about human condition of an aimless russian noble)
also pulps, as in literal pulp magazine fiction, which were made to be very breezy and a few ended up as foundational works for fantasy (vance), horror (lovecraft), and pornography (no comment there)
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Release That Witch remains the greatest fiction slop I've ever read. The worldbuilding of that web novel surpasses all else.
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anyone got any light novel audio book recommendations? been listening to reborn as a space mercenary,survival in another world with my elf mistress and skeleton knight in another world,i know it's all isekai slop but i enjoy them enough to keep listening during work
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>>741131135
Eragon was okay, but I feel like it was shilled to my generation as a way to get us into "real" reading. Young adult fantasy fiction was the emerging trend at the time, and it was mostly Harry Potter and Eragon (to a much lesser extent). Harry Potter obviously dwarfed everything else. Fantasy was supplanting boring YA fiction like The Box Car Kids; in retrospect, Lemony Snickett's books, which were also gaining popularity at the time, were probably a parody of this type of YA fiction.

All these books that young and adolescent boys might have once liked to read are now competing with infinitely more addictive, degenerate forms of entertainment. YA and, for want of a better term, manchild fiction I don't know what else to call this shit is taking cues from more popular forms of media like video games, TV, anime, and manga, but those cues are also what allow low quality slop to survive in the free market.

It's the same profit-motivate race-to-the-bottom death spiral you see elsewhere, but it doesn't mean that there aren't people producing better stuff out there. And if manchild fiction actually gets people to read "real" books, that's okay.
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>web novels
>light novels
>litrpgs
>progression fantasy
>self published
please neck yourself if you read any of the above
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>>741133770
mm... no
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>>741133770
"Real" literature is a meme
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>>741080426
Reverend insanity
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>>741133770
I consider Tails Gets Trolled to be a higher form of art than all of these, with zero irony.
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>>741133590
For me it was Sabriel and the Edge Chronicles.
That shit put hair on your chest.
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>>741133770
Sorry m8, but traditional publishing lost any right to elitism when it aggressively shilled fourth wing et al
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Foid completely ruining literature by flooding it with low quality smut will never stop making me mad.
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>>741134450
men have only themselves for blame for not reading and writing
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>>741134580
They do. Most of the fantasy bestsellers are men, while the female bestsellers are invariably playing the porn lottery and hoping they go viral on, and may Allah forgive me for uttering this word, booktok.
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The Unknown Armies rpg would make a good setting for a video game.
There's a ton of freedom to make up whatever is necessary for the situation. The game would probably have to be more RPG than action-rpg. A big part is how the people keep sacrificing their normal lives to gain power, so it loses a lot of meaning if the player doesn't feel the impact of their choices.
A Disco Elysium kinda game might be a good fit. Dialogue heavy, while allowing the player to solve problems with their powers.
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>>741134786
>booktok
what's the matter chuddie
can't handdle the SPICYNESS
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>>741122460
>Moorcock
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>>741097696
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>protag becomes a sentient dungeon
I could go for another (good) Dungeon Keeper-like game.
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>>741080697
I hate this book, author and fanbase
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>>741135669
k
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>>741080426
Shield Hero (literally single player tab targeting MMORPG like play with programmable bots you can play with.) Considering the story does not require Naofumi it can be whomever as the main character and they can do fan-fiction and let you do beast-man route or other characters.
-> Mob Waves With Boss To Beat. (Literal MMORPG design.)
-> Dungeon Raids And Economy Building Missions similar to Fable II esque format.
-> Dating/Romancing The Harem that is your Team.
Who the fuck's sleeping on money? There were literally three variations on the world as a game from the viewpoint of the three other heroes so why not?
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>>741096912
Read New Gate (SAO but actually legitimate MMORPG like world this time and protag actually went to the other world with no way to log out), Re:Monster (not for you if you don't like smut/dark t hemes) or Arifureta (web novels with LitRPG formatting, some edge lording going on but mainly just waifu-collection) and think on that again.
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I only read romantasy, and cozy fantasy books like Sarah Beth Durst novels. They wouldn’t make good vidya unless it’s an otome VN.
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>>741130750
Eragon was quite literally just "let's steal Star Wars and Tolkien and uhh... Some parts from conan and some weird anime shit about dragon raiding: Yeah that's cool! Literally 12 year old me wanted this book!" Type of energy. Its funny. The problem is that they try to ban "Problematic Men" from the industry that say fuck you to the system in any way. (Gorean novels is prime example.)
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>>741125787
I still seethe about him massacring Wheel of Time.
Like straight character assassination
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>>741135695
kill yourself
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Currently reading The Ark.
Honestly, this is quite possibly the best book I have ever read. The biting satire is matched only by its subtlety, which will make you not even realise the political undertones until the fifth read (because yes, you will be reading this multiple times). The only flaw is that the sociopolitical commentary may make you miss some of the original scifi you’ll be constantly presented.
I’d say that if you had this book to keep you company, you would be happy anywhere. You could even enjoy prison if you had it.
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>>741136598
>The biting satire is matched only by its subtlety
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>>741080426
>litrpg
So this is a thing
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It's got several genres. We don't talk about Endymion however.
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>>741136702
a lot of them are basically watching someone else play a cool MMORPG that will never exist or simply can't exist haha :D
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>/lit/ thread on /v/
the only place i use for recs.
thread's almost dead, but if any of you has a suggestion for a fun/witty book i'm all ears.
i already read Discworld (11/10) and Hitchhiker's guide (7.5/10 the jokes were funny but the characters were kinda terrible besides the two-headed dude)
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>>741102645
it started off as a joke but then he got scary good
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>>741136871
Have you read Confederacy of Dunces?
It's about a psychotic, 30 year old neckbeard who's forced to get a job by his mother, and all the cascading problems that causes. Great book with a great ending.
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>>741136871
The Eyre Affair and other books by Jasper Fforde.
They are very meta, in that they're about book detectives who enters books to fix plots and characters that have gone wrong. The characters can comment on what's going on on the page itself, like noticing footnotes.
They are pretty fun.

Most of Palahniuk's books are also fun, some more directly than others.
Lullaby and Choke are probably the funniest I've read of his.
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Any Primal Hunter enjoyers alive?
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>>741138526
Previous arc was a bit of a slog, but it seems to be looking up again.
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>>741138817
I like how Jake's getting (sort of) humbled for once
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>>741137505
>The Eyre Affair
thanks, i think i'll go for this one.
also mother of learning was suggested earlier in the thread, and the premise seems interesting

>>741137197
eh, the premise doesn't seem my kind of thing, but thanks anyway
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>>741080426
one day i'm gonna write my book about guys whose penises turn into little girls that power up when they get erections and have dbz fights with other dude's penis girls and it'll be awesome.

i was born to be a japanese light novel author but now that japanese light novels have essentially become the new fiction template in the west my stocks are skyrocketing.
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I was stuck in a car listening to that crap. Most reddit book in existence. Just like those trashy isekais.
Injecting video game crap into other mediums will always be retarded. The humor was terrible as well.
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>>741115286
I feel like everyone approaches this book incorrectly. It's not a serious book like you're led to believe. It's a comedy. Ishmael is hilariously incompetent but thinks he's a goddamn savant. The book is hardy about the whale or Ahab. The entire first half is about how Ishmael accidentally falls into a gay romance with a savage and then misreads it as brortherly friendship.
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>>741139031
It’s a difficult needle to thread for progression fantasy. On the one hand, I absolutely despise the ones that trumpet how far the protagonist has gone, only for them to render it all meaningless with some asspull, especially when the narrative still wants you to think they’re amazing.
On the other, complete curb stomps are just boring once the initial catharsis has passed.

imo it’s managed to balance it out pretty well overall, even if the nature of a serial format means that there’s going to be hills and valleys. Having the balls to kill off Ell’Hakan rather than dangle him as a never ending foil was a good choice too.
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>>741080426
I'm actually trying to make a game that rips off a lot from this series.
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>>741139789
>log the player’s address
>send someone round to break their kneecaps at random intervals
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>>741139556
This. And it's astounding that people think the fucker is actually named Ishmael when he literally says he isn't in the first sentence of the book, but I guess that represents our society level of reading comprehension quite well.
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>>741116475
I have ideas. I think a steel pusher like Wax makes a better protagonist than a Mistborn. Some kind of automatic system for pushing around town would be wise. (Think webswinging in spider-man) cos aiming every push is hard. There's some interesting gameplay around stealth and using emotional allomancy to mess with mobs. A fixed amount of metal so that you can make use of pewter interesting .
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>>741107381
Lol

And then the author disavowed the shit out of him because redditors were sperging.
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>>741139789
didn't know they made a book series based on the incel door kid haha
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>>741091591
>"litrpg" is just isekai
Litrpg isn't isekai. Its best to think of it as a DnD campaign written as a book series.
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>>741080426
https://parahumans.wordpress.com/
A Worm game would be amazing.
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>>741141607
man, I wish I was 16 again so I could like this stuff
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>>741142276
I'm approaching 30 and I still think that Worm was crazy good desu. Sadly Wildbow became a progressively worse writer with each subsequent story after Pact (which was also great), and Ward is truly dogshit.



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