O MY RNG MANIPULATION
>>741107492Explain
>>741108148https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q6FKBLon84
>>741108148tl;dr "gen 3 battle frontier community" drama where Werster (speedrunner) RNG manipulated a high battle factory win streak. This streak was never submitted as a legitimate score in the community
>>741108258>not proofso it's fucking nothing
>>741107492NO ONE FUCKING CARES TRANNY
>>741108298>This streak was never submitted as a legitimate score in the communityThen why would anyone care even if he actually did end up cheating? I don't understand
>>741107492used goods
>>741109034because he still brags like a retard and golems think he's some epic pokemaster when he's average at best
>>741109034Because the speedrunning community is full of petty trannies.
>>741109134Oh I see, that makes sense
>>741109034because this is a feud between Werster and the rest of the people who run this game mode that nobody has ever heard ofWerster lied about the run just so he could make everyone feel like the latest WR was a fluke and that he was still better than them.The other speedrunners seethed about this so hard for 1.5 years because they hate how Werster treats their category and them.Werster wasn't trying to pass off a fake run as legit, he was trying to lie about his win streak specifically to make the latest WR runner feel like shit and for everyone else to feel like Werster could beat them whenever he wanted.Whether that makes it worse or not depends on the type of person you are, but I'm used to these types of autistic spats.
>>741109456The best way to rile up pokemon autists is to tell them that wanting to bang animals and children is bad
drama is the only good part of speedrunning
>>741109456> Werster wasn't trying to pass off a fake run as legit, he was trying to lie about his win streak specifically to make the latest WR runner feel like shit and for everyone else to feel like Werster could beat them whenever he wanted.Sounds based
>>741109626for me it's the more technical details on why certain skips or tricks work, than the runs themselves
>tranny v/s tranny fight
>>741107492>i took down my yellow vod because it triggered me, nothing sus here ^_^
>>741109917if you're jewish
>>741108442hey werster, if you wanna prove you're the best you should do something relevant like vgc or platinum kaizo after your break
>>741108396He admitted it https://litter.catbox.moe/chb8cz0la983xijq.txt
>>741109034pokemon's battle facilities are serious business
i like that jump
You mean to tell me the guy who made a video on how easy battle frontier is to RNG manip... used RNG manip in the battle frontier?
>>741110962no he didn't, he straight up cheated
>>741109093Who was the dude Misty was flirting with?
RNG manipulation isn't cheating, its just being better at the game.
>>741111028proofs next thread?
>>741111095Why anon...it's you
>>741110630tldr?
>>741110962And passed it off as non-manip and uses it as evidence of his non-manip skill and shitting on other non-manip players? Yes.
>>741111204You can't manipulate RNG for this category even though you are free to use outside tools to give you insight into the upcoming battles (aka seeing ahead, or cheating). Confused?
>>741111226>And passed it off as non-manipPurely for shitposting. He never submitted his times as legitimate. It's just trannies seething and getting mad at being trolled.
someone post his huge discord response
>>741111226He didn't pass it off as anything, he just boasted about it whenever he knew the people in the community were listening, and it drove them to make this video calling him out.
>>741111318I don't know, why is he deleting comments about it if it's just a shitpost? Same with LRXC taking a piss at him.
Hey guys, werster here. I think all non-white children should be forced onto estrogen so they can't breed and also so I can rape them. Heil Hitler and heil Gooseworx. I'm trans btw.
What the fuck is a Werster
>>741111401average australian politics
>>741111456Dreadful STD
>>741111095Red. He GAPED Mistys Starmy before anyone else could get her.
why is nobody ever bringing up the absolutely abysmal ruleset that battle facility people use for their leaderboardsthey're making it extremely easy for anyone to cheat in a way that is almost impossible to fully prove and they're just not bothering to change that everyet at the same time they act as if their hobby is the most high brow way of engaging with any video game ever and can only reasonably be done if you have a phd in statistics and 200 iq
>>741111535because speedrunning is fucking retarded
i donated 1000$ so that werster would say niggers on stream
>>741111535it's a community of like 5 people
>>741111383>He didn't pass it off as anythinghttps://youtu.be/7KXYKHNRr1U?t=1142>But so I would consider my streaks outside of this 500 one as my PBs for my own personal progression, which I do without any calculators any spreadsheets any manips. So that 104 [L100 singles], I think it was 95 that I had in 50 singles, and then the big 200 one in open doubles.
>>741111535I'm not familiar with the category, can you elaborate?
>>741111595You will go down in history as a legend anon.
>>741109034He fucked with them by omitting to reveal that there was some manip involved on a run that would be the 2nd highest on the leader board if he had submitted it, and they spent 2 years trying to figure out how he did it before finding the manip. Does this matter at all? No, it's party A (werster) trolling party B (battle facility community) because they've have bad blood. At most you could determine that werster is petty for doing this. Does this impact any of his actual speedrun records? Also no.
>>741111607OY SHUT IT DOWN
>>741111764We still don't know what happened with the Stadium 2 quick claw. At best it's a hardware issue, at worst there's foul play with save editing. Or why he privated the Yellow run. Or why he deleted that HGSS vod where he showed he was using external tools. Or what he thought he was doing with the Sarah Hagan alt.
>>741111904>We still don't know what happened with the Stadium 2 quick clawthe nigger is clearly lying, "i don't know what happened i hope people can figure it out cause i think it's a new glitch" is what everyone who gets caught cheating says in every game when people find weird things that only consistently show up in that person's runs
>>741111904>Yellow runhe's a snowflake (wanted to hide evidence of rng manip when it wasn't allowed in runs)>HGSS vodhe doesn't remember (wanted to cover it up)>Sarah Hagandidn't mention it (got salty that exarion 1-upped him)
>>741111904And those are all separate issues that lie outside of the squabble between him and the battle frontier nerds.
>werster had an alt account with a female nameuh oh...
>>741111993Is it though? His past behavior lines up with what he's doing now. He learned nothing.
werster's stream is the perfect jumpscare5 hours of absolute silence broken only by him sperging out over a single RNG interaction and bursting your eardrums
>>741111904Apparently someone figured the stadium part out.the item appeared due to having specific key items in the game, in this case I believe some fishing rods
>minipnah he just cheated lol, the playtime makes zero sense because he would have fucked up the timing for RNG eventually and his streak would be gonethe playtime simply matches the "crime"
>>741112214that's why its kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KXYKHNRr1U&t=1083s>So as I said, I would consider this [rng manip attempts] to be a totally different thing to playing without what I would consider to be manips. So RNG manipulation. I would basically take that as a knowledge check ... " ... "and so I would consider my streaks outside of this 500 one as kinda like my PBs for my own personal progression. Which I do without any calculators, any spreadsheets, any manips. So that 104 [in lv 100 singles], that I think it was 95 I had in 50 singles, and then big 200 one in open doubles.He was absolutely trying to pass it off as legitimate.
>>741112223correction pokeflute
>>741112214It's a waste of time when I can just watch the clip on YT. At least I can learn something from the other streamers better than him at Pokemon.
>>741111607oof yikes
>>741107492Oh how the tables have turned.Chuggaaconroy won.
>>741111607>>741112297He's still deleting comments on that video. Just a shitpost, huh?
>>741112639Same with the most recent video. He left one comment up for hours since he didn't get the reference, then someone alluded to it and now it's gone. Lol.
>>741111328Bros...
what is the endgame of everyone involved in this
>>741112812werster troons out and kills himself
>>741112754>>741112139Oh nonononono
>>741112754>flags in response to thiswhat?
>>741111328It's just the catbox link.>>741112754Fake, that's not his avatar on Discord.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcBbE3t6cLA
>>741113070Is he based if he wanted the clip taken down
>>741110630>That run was done when I was with people who I ended up falling out with many years later in a way that hurt me a lot, and I just wanted to erase that from my mind.every time
>>741109456He's justified by the fact that the WR in question is incredibly, incredibly suspicious - more suspicious than his own run.
>>741113898The WR is streamed and he's much better than you, werster.
>>741107492>Speedrunning community is just mega autists making up categories and then posting their own "records" without any objective evidence, based on the "trust me bro it's legit" system
>>741114146Don't get ahead of yourself faggot. Offline Werster is a factory demon
Chibi won. Wester won. You'll have to accept reality one day when you finally grow up.
>calcs and spreadsheets are cheating>savescumming 100 times in a row until you get the perfect team to start with BF is notKnow the rules plebs!
>>741114209I kneel.
>>741114267Spreadsheets and calcs are the entire meta. They are just mad that all their work is trivialized by RNG manip which is easily fixable by banning it from their category. This could have all been prevented with a clear ruleset from the start
>>741114345It is banned. How many times do we have to tell you, schizo?
>>741114345Werster's BF "world records" are a fucking joke.If I want to no life save scum over and over for months until I get the perfect team with optimal opponents to mash A with in the BF, I could easily get the speedrun WR for silver medal BF too. There is no skill involved here.
>>741111456no idea, but he cheated
speedtranny drama has got to be one of the best zoo exhibits on the internet, I cant believe there are adult men getting upset over people rng manipulating in a 20 year old single player game
>>741114441hey werster, you're right speedrunning is for tranniesplatinum kaizo hardcore nuzlocke next stream yes?
>>741114480difficulty hacks are also for trannies
>>741114530perfect for you :)
>>741108148A tranny made a 15 hour long video lying about werster cheating and the whole 15 hours it said "I have no proof of cheating, he probably didnt cheat, he didnt cheat here but i need to make the video 15 hours, he didnt cheat but he did" etc. The reason the tranny made this 15 hour long video is because werster is the only nontranny speedrunner left. Then the tranny killed itself right after releasing the video and everyone thought they were extremely insane.
>>741107492I'd manipulate her O RING if you know what mean.
>>741114649big if true
>eceleb dramaI thought this was going to be a thread about games
>>741114441Speedrunning overall is the most autistic and toxic community in existance>Make up your own WR categories>Make up your own rules>Feel superior for being number one in your own record you made up>Gatekeep newcomers from challenging your WR by retroactively changing the rules to stop their attempts>Get help from your discord buddies (who form the speedun "council" that decides all the rules) to further gatekeep newcomers
>>741114779>eceleb
>>741114779It's about you werster>>741114807Why does werster do this? Is it because he knows he can't compete with the big boys?
>>741114146>The WR is streamedYou don't think this actually matters, do you?
>>741114847It's not just werster. Remember that Mario speedrunner who was about to take the TAS-less speedrun record from some tranny, so the tranny went to his discord buddies to modify the rules so the speedrunner's multiple controller strat was banned (wasn't banned previously during his attempt).
>>741114981see >>741114319
why did he do it bros? why would he fake his RCPD shooting gallery high score with TDM (target dummy manipulation)?
>>741114384>weIt's time to go back
>>741115036Yeah and they got tons of shit for it. Nobody takes them seriously anymore. Whether Niftski, LeKukie or some other input swapper ties the TAS they will be acknowledged as the first.
I blame Cosmo
>>741114319Why would he post the ones where he lost if he's just playing offline tranny retard
>>741115226He got mind breaked by john numbers kek
>>741115226cosmo es un reptil
>Speedrunning community is just mega autists making up categories and then posting their own "records" without any objective evidence, based on the "trust me bro it's legit" systemWhat leads to this autism
>>741115235There was no time for him to restart the streak because of the IGT on his cringe RNG manip video.
>>741115036>>741115173I think playing any console game with a keyboard is inherently cheating and there's way too much software out there to modify how your keys behave.Honestly fucking shocked they allow any emulator runs to be ranked along the actual console runs, it's wildly unfair.
>>741115321>>741114194werster bot post
>>741110630no where in there did he admit to cheating
>>741115386I think posting records that you "recorded" yourself without any official third party judging system is so fucking stupid.
speedrunning died when siglemic stopped and it especially died when cosmo trooned
>>741115386There is no advantage to either. Controller has its own advantages and keyboard is likely harder overall. Your only premise is "it's different so it's bad"
>>741115482In the future there will be controllers hooked up directly to the brain for no time loss inputs. Will that be allowed?
>>741115447this, we need twin galaxies back
>>741115321>really like game>play it until you reach the skill ceiling and normal play no longer challenges you>it's singleplayer so you can't play against other people>it's not a score attack game so you can't compete for high scores>all there's left is to see how fast you can beat it>people start competing to see who can beat it the fastest>competition leads to rules and subversion of those rules>speedrunning is ultimately a measure of time investment so all the big players are complete autists with no lifethere you go
>>741115452This was the exact moment speedrunning died
>all the categories actually were arbitrary and the rules were just made up by 3 guys who wanted to stop other people from stealing their e-clout
>>741115516might be a different category
>>741115516yeah let's discuss something that hasn't happened what a great use of our time
>>741115452Cosmo was a major blow because he actually had charisma and enthusiasm which attracted people to the hobby both as viewers and runners.
MST was the only good OoT speedrun format
Speedtrannies still haven't forgave Werster for saying Nigger on stream.
>>741115694trvke
>>741115694I just call him nigger guy
>>741115567>competition leads to rules and subversion of those rulesbut the rules are made by the original record holder and his buddies form the "council" that decides the rules, so they can gatekeep any attempt for newcomers to break the record
I think trannnies should not be allowed to hold any records in girl gaming categories.
>>741115482Frame perfect inputs and releases are much easier along with pressing multiple buttons/keys at once being easier as well. Also for movement on a controller you literally have to rock the dpad back and forth to change direction as every direction is connected to one cross shaped "button" while on a keyboard you can instantly press left after right.There's no way to hold your NES controller and tap and release the jump button as quick as Niftski can by simply flicking his index finger downward slightly.
>>741107492I don't know if I would marry Misty. She's kind of a dork.
>>741115593This was the moment where every nerd hoping to meet a nerdy girl to marry realized that was a fantasy and that women are all whores ready to fuck your best friends the moment they feel a little bad.
>>741115694I wonder if there's anyone who is vehemently anti-trans who's forbidden from holding WRs because of that or some shitthere's frigates full of butthurt in those communities
LRXC WONEXARION WONPOKEGUY WONMIKESDA98 FUCKING WON
>>741115917>MIKESDA98based
>>741115762that's how it works yeah
>>741115870Goose and Graviton were both removed from the Goldeneye rankings for a bit when their /pol/ talk got leaked from their discord but they were shortly added back.
>>741116092>goose is now making random n64 lore videos on a new channel and getting tens of thousands of viewshe won
>>741116262Goose has always secretly run this shit.
>>741115808Maybe if you're a brainlet and only play with two thumbs. Keep up unc
>>741116262>meanwhile Karl has become buckbroken by Billy
how the fuck can you be allowed to post WR without any proof? Like legit no evidence just claim you did it and be friends with the committee
>>741107492https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OvXI-q0naAwho was in the wrong here?
>>741116479Shmupfags do it all the time
>>741116586all arcadetranny genres honestly
>>741116479This is the Japanese standard. Claim a record and everyone just goes with it unless they admit it was fake.
>>741115593qrd
>>741116815that standard only works when everyone involved is human
>>741115235You're the retard. He couldn't have played any games where he lost, which is mathematically proven by his cart's in game time.If werster wasn't a complete fucking retard, he would have idled for a few hundred hours, got to 999:59 IGT where the timer stops, and then he COULD have used that as a defense. With an incalculable amount of time on his cart, he could have fabricated a realistic W/L record and just say he grinded a ton.But no, his cart was progressing from ~500 to ~530 hours played, which meant even if he played EVERY SINGLE battle FASTER offline than he didDURING HIS SPEEDRUN STREAMI repeat:EVERY.BATTLE.FASTER.THAN.HIS.SPEEDRUN.STREAMS.he STILL would not have enough time to lose a SINGLE run.If he lost A SINGLE RUN offline his timer would have been 550-600+ hours on his 212 run, not 530 hours.
Rank in order of patheticness:>Speed running>Cheating in speed running>Caring about cheating in speed running
>>741116890>>741115593https://files.catbox.moe/h436ds.webm
>>741116512>gf cheats on you with your brother>abusive mother covers it updo baby boomer families REALLY?
>>741116963hi werster
>>741116950Insane tranny
>>741116950Based
>>741116974>cheating runs in the familypoetic, really
>>741116950He just restarts the game around 500-530 hours it wasn't all the same save file retard
>>741116586Shmups are stuck in the 90s. Not surprised their verification methods are too.
>>741117212dude he admitted it, you don't need to run defense
>>741107492She never said that.
>>741117212Ah yes Werster just magically wiped his save file and then reached 500+ hours again between streamsYou do realize the battle factory saves every time you start and end a round, right?
>>741117297No he didn't insane tranny
>>741117261because modern games are so great right?
remember kids, if you didn't get the WR, you can do whatever you want!
>>741117339Yes that doesn't matter because he started the game over
>>741117412Yes he just played 500 hours in the 72 hour span between his streamed runs to get back to his previous battle factory streak
>>741117375Yes.
>>741109034Autism.
>No bro, chat was distracting when streaming, his offline games are possibleAnyone that's watched a werster stream knows he talks maybe once every 20 minutes, MAYBE. And it wont even be to talk to chat, it will just be a comment on something that happened. And he has like <300 viewers each time so its not like his chat is going fast, he doesnt have a lot to reply to.
>>741117597He has over 15 years of experience streaming and playing online. It was never a logical excuse.
>autists having a blood feud over a sub-sub-sub category of a 20 year old game thats ran by like 4 peopleI wish all internet drama was like this
>>741117597We're no longer concerned with if it was legit or not, Werster admitted to using RNG manipulation which isn't allowed in the rules for the category.The debate now is whether this warranted a massive call-out video labeling him as a "cheater" when he never submitted the run to the rankings and never tried to get anyone but himself and his fans to acknowledge that it happened. This wasn't done by werster to feel like he was more skilled, but to deliberately anger the only people who could tell right away that he was hiding something.
>>741117754I love how seriously they take it too, like its some life or death shit kek
Is it that hard to believe Werster just had multiple catridges or something similarly trivial like that instead of NO YOU DON'T GET IT HE CHEATED HIS ENTIRE CAREEREver heard of Occam's razor?Also this niggers is obviously looking for e-fame otherwise he would have just contacted Werster instead of posting his gay ass video.
>Werster gets basic recall egregiously wrong during his live commentary, but will magically fix this after a suspiciously long pause where we see him look away from the game's console and towards his laptopcoming from the guy who shits on people using spreadsheets mid run>>741117754At least its vidya related unlike a lot of other threads here
>>741107492>makes trannies seethe>drops nigger live on gdq>outs battle factory players as retards>one said retard makes a 80 minute hit piece video over how he cheated>includes zero evidence of said cheating in videoYeah I’m thinking Based>>741116950>muh heckin timer!Take the L bitchnigger
>>741117826Werster has been consistently streaming factory runs on the same damn cart for ages, and the times for it line up perfectlyAre we supposed to assume he has another cart that just conveniently almost the same amount of hours? Why would he even change carts between runs?
>>741117506Yes
>>741117798>whether this warranted a massive call-out videoAfter the Lily and Chugga shit? Yes. Magpie also confirmed he didn't mention some stuff that would've been more unfair towards him.
>occam's razor>he has multiple emerald cartridges with 500+ hours on theml o l
>>741117798>This wasn't done by werster to feel like he was more skilled, but to deliberately anger the only people who could tell right away that he was hiding somethingbullshit
>if you play pokemon offline in a way a tranny doesn't like it will make an 80 minute video about you sperging out Whoa this tranny is extremely insane and belongs in a straight jacket in a padded room of an insane asylum.
>>741118000>didn't mentionbut then he went and mentioned it, hate when pussies do this
>>741109456>game mode that nobody has ever heard of>vanilla emerald battle factoryget real nigga
Troonster gonna troon out over this
>>741114684sausa pls
>>741117951>Are we supposed to assume he has another cart that just conveniently almost the same amount of hours?He does
>>741117826>Also this niggers is obviously looking for e-fameThat is precisely why the video is necessary. Werster posts runs and records all the time, but theres a small section in his descriptions that mention "I did this according to my own ruleset" so he can't TECHNICALLY be called out for cheating his runs, but this misleads everybody into thinking he's some sort of god.So Werster was just in it for the clout, the community e-fame. So whats the most effective way or place to call out someone like that? Right where they are trying to derive that same fame from. It had to be done.
ALRET: TRANNIES ARE IN THE THREAD
>>741117840>coming from the guy who shits on people using spreadsheets mid runThis only matters to werster and the runners he's trying to upset.like literally, Werster only boasts about NOT using it because his rivals use tools and spreadsheets openly, and his rivals think it is the greatest own ever that he was caught looking at a spreadsheet because of how badly he annoys them.Unless you are one of the speedtrannies, I don't see why it matters to you.
>>741118207yeah yeah we know werster's in the thread
bingbingzi, I think
>>741115694Millennials weren't supposed to be a generation of people that are offended by such words.
I know I sound insane but magpie has a really similar cadence to the narrator from disco elysium and I find it really funny
>>741118102Werster already believes he's better than everyone else.The point of him getting a 200 streak right after the first person ever just did it was to make his achievement seem like a fluke or a fake.
>>741118228>This only matters to werster and the runners he's trying to upset.No, if you shit on people for doing X and then do X yourself, you're a hypocriteDoesn't matter if anyone has a stake in it or not
>>741118185I love how he ends with "I think all speedruns should be done live in-person" since he's pretty much the only one who does this as a full-time job. It's gatekeeping masquerading as caring about rulesets.
>>741116402you think he has to call Billy's cock an "absolute legend" before he chokes on it every night?
>>741118371The gatekeeping ones are the "you MUST livestream and film your hands!" crowd, who assume everyone just has a perfectly stable internet connection that won't drop too many frames to invalidate a run like that SM64 world record.
>>741118371you think he has 46000 years to reach 212 again?
>>741108298He still claimed it was real for years.
>>741118456>handcam too hard :(hi shmuptranny nigger!
>>741118517It was real, he just broke the rules to achieve it.
Werster why did you put pronouns in your user profiles? We know you're a him m8. I don't think that's getting the tranny heat off you either.
but how do we feel about autofire?
>>741118554>It was real, he just faked itInteresting
>tl:dr
>>741118648Werster faked a Red speedrun on Sarah Hagan where the inputs were basically autofire kek
>>741118657It's disqualifying, not fake.He broke the rules so it can't count.No cheating.
>>741118732werster 10000% is being a disingenuous fuck on his battle factory nonsense but wasn't the point of that sarah hagan stunt to show how easy it was to fake an emulated run?
>>741118732That one was unironically because he was calling out a new player for showing up with a WR on emulator. It was never meant to be him claiming a record with a new name.
>>741118724This was written by an extreme tranny who cut off their penis
>>741118785He was seething about emulators but was really just jealous of Exarion
>>741118724>If you ain't first you're last>but with Pokemon, specifically gen 3 battle factoryImagine trying to debunk this.
>singleplayer PokemonTo afraid to play on Showdown with the big dogs?
>>741118785If that was his goal, he didn't fake it well at all. All the comments are clowning him for how obvious it is.
>>741118724This is the most trannylicious thing I've ever read
>>741118724If it's making the tranny obsessed schizo mad and samefag, it must be correct
>>741118828>>741118916>>741118945tranny. Werster was exposed as a cheat who was out of his depth. Tranny
>>741118785>10000%Uneducated idiot
>>741118916Spotted troonster
>>741118993>>741118945 here, you're rightTranny
>>741118873>To afraid to play on Showdown with a bunch of gay nepotists from Discord?ftfy
>>741118456i think there is reason to call for evidence for achievementsespecially if highly regarded and you are doing many attemptsif you are grinding attempts at something to set a new record, it should be on cameraeven more so for people who do streams normallyif you think it is important, why wouldnt you record it?
>>741118993Tranny
>>741119067Tranny
>>741119086Tranny
>>741119117Tranny
Werster is our guy so I will side with him.
Oh baby, a triple.
>>741119064He probably wanted to stop at 147-154 since that's when he started streaming it, but he got super lucky and didn't lose, so then he pushed the lie further to 210.
>>741119130Tranny
>>741119170Tranny
>>741119142Nigger guy wanted to pull the nigger clip from YT and is deleting comments instead of laughing about it. Not our guy.
>>741119186Tranny
>>741119064That's all that should be needed, a local recording without any flaws or cheats noticeable.People like Karl Jobst have unfairly made it "suspicious" to not livestream constantly when you speedrun, despite players like Bryan Bosshardt and PerfectAce getting almost all their WRs offline.
>>741119223Tranny
>didn't even submit itWho cares then?
>>741119238Tranny
>>741119274Tranny
uh oh melty
Everyone knows you are a man. You failed.
>>741119252see >>741118724
>>741119287Tranny
>>741107492>>741108298>>741109456I'M COME TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT!Pokemon threads were better when they were claudse threads.I miss Claude. GIVE HIM BACK!You're all niggers btw.
>>741119324Tranny
>>741119339all good things must come to an end
>>741119348Tranny
>>741119372Tranny
>>741119224Splicing and submitting locally recorded runs as a "joke" doesn't help, though. You know, like SOME people have done in the past.
>>741108258I'm not watching all that. Is there actual real proof he cheated or is this another "his luck is too good to be true" bullshit claims?
>>741119391tranny
>>741117212It had his previous streak of 100+ or whatever, it was the same file. This was said in the video, if you had actually watched it.
Tranny
>>741119418I'm not watching a video of lies that a tranny made in a desperate attempt to afford estrogen
>>741119395werster already admitted to cheating
>>741119524No he didn't tranny he admitted to knowing too much about the game so he knew what was going to happen
>>741118724Except literally nobody knows about any of those people so it's literally the opposite of what the tranny is describing. It's just people with a chip on their shoulder trying and failling to carry a character assassinationon on Werster (again)But also>GoomerDid this nigger name himself Groomer minus one letter? They are not even trying
>>741115917>MIKESDA98 FUCKING WONWerster's wife was named Won?
>>741109093why did misty's date flee?
>>741119395>Is there actual real proof he cheatedThere isn't. He admits to not having any actual proof of Werster cheating like 2 minutes into the video.
>>741119667Yet he confessed to cheating. Funny that works, huh?
>>741118724ive heard this said about many other people who are among the best in their fieldi know this was said about mango (smash bros) and dolce (iidx) but it extends outside of gamingalthough i think there must be some truth to these statements, i doubt their validity. he can have something else in his life but he doesnt talk about it or discuss it openly. unless you are close to him, you might never know.>>741119164to me, the werster thing doesnt even matter. the only people who should actually care about it are the ones who were actually grinding that category. no one cares about this record.>>741119394pretty hard to splice footage with handcams>>741119339Pokemon threads were better when they were showderp threads
>>741119725dillate
>>741119725no he didn't
>>741119568Your discord raid attempts to try and damage control are obvious. The math doesn't lie, timings don't lie, past history of cheating doesn't lie. Werster is a fraud, at least when it comes to the battle factory in pokemon emerald. But this behavior should put into question his speedruns too. The fact he's good at the game means even higher scrutiny. You can try to deflect with your troon obsession but you are defending a speedrun tranny yourself.
>>741119593It wasn't his wife you dumb fuck niggers this was 25 years ago he still lived with his mom so he was still a teenager or early 20s I dont think they were even dating it was just a girl he liked and his retarded brother couldnt just find some other bitch
>multiple several hundred threads for this random tranny playing pokemon games
Werster getting cucked by his brotherhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OvXI-q0naA>>741108148>>741118748He actively said it was NOT rng, in his 504 rng video at the end. He said it was real>>741109034He is insecure. Werster has long positioned himself to be the "best" pokemon player in the world. It is his entire identity. It is all he has. He has no skills, no job, no wife (his brother took that), nothing but Pokemon.Then come along the frontier players, Wildcat, Magpie, Goomer, LRXC, all displaying extreme techinical mastery over the game in such a way that Werster never could. Werster talks shit all day up and down, but had no ability to back it up and thus had to establish his qualifications to talk shit on Factory players. So he fakes a casual 2nd place. He flaunts it around to make sure no one questions his authority on the matter. Because without it, he no longer even has Pokemon.Because it turns out the only skill speedrunning takes is time of day to play the game. Unlike Factory, which involves decision making and risk weighing aka an IQ check, one that Werster fails. The leaps and bounds that factory players have been making have left Werster in the dust, just like his wife did, and his ego couldnt take it.
>>741119846cope
>>741119898>25 years ago>early 20she's 32 and acts like he's 14 bro
>>741119339>human-assisted "AI"CPP cheated harder that Werster
>>741119142>Werster is our guyparticipates in metoo shit and defends pronouns on his stream but he said nigger 10 years ago (and makes it very clear he wants to memoryhole it) so clearly he's our guy lol
>>741107492The numbers aren't actually random. What are you gonna do, require people to know less about how the game's tells?Alternatively, you could admit that optimization makes games less fun in general, and subsequently stop doing it, but that would pretty much kill WR speedrunning if it wasn't dead enough already.
>>741119897You should check into a mental hospital tranny
>>741116890that guy's wife whored herself out at some speedrunning event
>>74111994615 years*
>>741120008Factory speedrunning isn't an interesting category. Werster can't even get the gold symbol remotely consistently when he plays fast. How do you expect him to do 150+ much harder battles offline at the same pace and never lose once?
>>741119919Not reading all of that insane tranny
>>741119142>Werster is our guyhasn't been since he pulled out those Gaia logs on our real guy Chugga
>>741120023It's genuinely insane how mindbroken you've been over this, trying so hard to defend your idol. Your "HERO" is a fraud and got bodied by absolute proof. Stay in your lane speedrun tranny monkey, you're too low IQ for the battle frontier, showdown or VGC.>werster needs rng manip to go past 100 winsKWAB
>>741111509What about out her Cloyster (Red/Blue front sprite form)?
>>741120008The point of the battle frontier factory is not speedrunning. There are people competitively aiming to survive the longest streaks possible. Speedrunning the facility should have its own separate category for runs to be submitted. The issue is that Werster gloated for years with his cheated 200+ doubles win record to give himself more fame and credibility. Cuz there was no way the #1 speerdunner could not also be the best frontier player. He didn't understand the assignment, got exposed and had to admit he used rng manipulation.
>>741120173Extremely mentally ill danger to society tranny you need to be in a straight jacket
What skill does werster even have? He just no life savescums in battle factory and stadium until he gets a favorable set. He's been caught using flowsheets which he views off camera (thats why all his cams are pitch black), so he doesn't even have to think.It's all fucking luck and you and I could do the same thing.
>>741120357>didn't understand the assignmentI find that extremely hard to believe coming from someone who's been outspoken about rules and how people should play video games for over a decade. He 100% knew what he was doing.
>>741107492yeah? it wasn't a category runRNG manipulation is cool sometimes and werster has a large enough backlog of other cool things for me to not carelike the learning over a choice move tech in hgss, never would have known about that if I hadn't woken up while it was playing
>>741107492>"I cannot absolute prove"and i stopped giving a fuck....
>>741120357>He didn't understand the assignmentWhy do you sound like a tranny? You were groomed.
>>741120469no one cares about pokeshit speedruns nowadays millennitroon
>>741120357>The issue is that Werster gloated for years with his cheated 200+ doubles winjust over one year*
>>741120548I don't care about sneedruns in games so much as I care about challenge runs, I would watch the occasional one in the background during lockdownswhy are you here if you don't care
I don't care, speedrunning records are for mentally ill trannies
>>7411205812024-2026not to mention his cheated shit before
>>741109456>autistic spatstrainer customization was a mistake
>>741119339basedi dont give a shit about ecelebs I wanna commentate on snail racing again
>>741119989It wasn't assisted like neuro or gemini though, or rigged like TPP Demo, it was a mongoloid chatbot blundering its way through with the dumbest fucking reasons for falling through the finish lineand it was fun
>>741119339I do miss our special boy
>>741112754>canada>norwaykek what was the original
>>741120459>What skill does werster even have?idk but I'm pretty sure he still has WRs all over the place. Why try so hard to diminish that?
>>741120894It's like getting the world record for most coin flips landing heads in a row. If you no life it, eventually you could win it. Thats what BF records eventually turn out to be. No thinking at all with damage calcs, spreedsheets, flowcharts, savescumming.
So the complaint is that he did RNG manipulation to get a long streak?
>>741119919>Then come along the frontier players, [list of people I've never heard of] all displaying extreme techinical mastery over the game in such a way that Werster never could.Werster is still the best Pokemon speedrunner I've heard of.
>>741119919>Wildcat, Magpie, Goomer, LRXCnever heard of these guys, which one are you?
>>741120532uh oh troon melty
>>741114807you just described how society as a whole works mate
>>741121057take your meds schizo
>>741121057Yeah but in broader society people use social systems like that to gain real benefits. Nobody in speedrunning gains anything. It's a giant self-medication process for underinsured americans with untreated mental disorders
>>741120951>savescummingMaybe for werster, lmao.
>>741119568I think it's because of this fella
Everyone can tell this is personal and there's a lot of bad blood and bias going both ways, except the speedrunners who are desperately trying to convince everyone that this is purely objective.The only objective part is that he lied and you guys got mad about it.
>>741121106>Nobody in speedrunning gains anythingThey get money from paypigs on twitch actually.
>>741118326It's the "amateur gravitas" (I move away from the mic to breathe) method. Hated it in disco because pretty much every new actor was good after they kicked out the free labor, but the narrator didn't even put on a different tone for the various cabinet members.
reminder that werster is a /vg/ poster
>>741121057It's tricky because you have to build a community around people who all want to do the same thing, without enabling jealous people who want to do what you do badly enough to try and steal your place in it.
>>741114840>implying werster is not an eceleb
>>741121035Can't take anyone seriously who was groomed
>>741115593>women in a hobby spaceFor me, it was Lobos
>>741109134Ok? Who gives a shit
>>741116092based grav
>>741121242>not a /vp/ posterbased
>>741116950Embarrassing, lol.
>>741118724Anyone who screencaps their own posts like this is automatically in the wrong, regardless of the content of the post.
>>741121242That explains the severe autism. Nobody sane can stomach /vg/ for long.
>>741121242was/srg/ or whatever is dead
>>741118724>>741119919>screencaps his own posts>forgets he did it and copy-pastes them anyway
>>741121472did speedrunning fucking POKEMON not tip you off?how mentally ill do you have to be to speedrun a fucking turn based game that takes literally no skill
Proof? NoneWerster? Shouting FUCKING NIGGERS on the streamMoney? Never donated
>>741121029Troon mad
>>741121242Losing even more respect for this nigger. Subhuman fraud got filtered by battle frontier kek
>>741120951This is what happens when you suck werster's cock for too long. Don't get pozzed like this guy.
>>741120894Werster's special snowflake HGSS x only speedrun categories he made up and only runs himself do not compare to something like the Red any% glitchless WR.
>>741119919>has some prepared copy-pasta about how Werster is insecure and an ancient drama video both queued upYou are the definition of obsessed
>>741119919how do australians call this english this is unintelligible
WR only count if other people care about them.Otherwise I hold the WR for sticking nine pieces of chewed gum on my face while hopping on one foot and singing the "I'm Just Me" song.
>>741118535You know what? The schizos here do remind me of the shmuptranny mental illness threads.
>>741120894He lets on that he's some Pokemon genius but he gets shit wrong all the time. Like we only know how the Emerald AI works because of nuzlockers documenting it from playing Emerald Kaizo.
>>741121846what's your record i'm about to beat that shit NOW
>>741122074Sorry if only counts if you were born on my birthday.
>>>/vp/
>>741121887>get called out>shitposting immediately stopspottery. shmupniggers should kill themselves
>>741122185i didn't hear no bell what's your birthday
>>741120762>wasn't assisted>harnesses
>watch this dogshit video>read his dogshit paperusing LaTeX does not make you an academiceverything about the approach lacks rigor and feels like it boils down to "i don't feel like he should be that much better than me exactly one (1) time"this dumb NIGGER's argument literally boils down to "the only way he plays fast and wins offline and has a high PB is because he cheats and not because he is mogging me bigly"a paper of this quality would be laughed out of any reputable academic venue. not saying werster can't be a cheating nigger but this garbage doesn't prove shit and biases me in werster's favor because of how poorly it's constructed and presented
>>741122402>gives him as much bias as possible>numbers are still impossiblehe raped and you're gaped
>>741121776Yeah because nobody outside of some pissed off Discord community would be bothered to compare them.
>>741122352Sorry it only counts if you tongue kissed a dude before
>>741122402based and no lies detected, reminds me of those sloppy ass google docs where they take forever to get to the fucking pointthe ones where for some reason the actual criminal allegations are buried under 50 pages of irrelevant petty discord dramathese niggas genuinely can't get their shit together, it's a reflection of how they operate mentally
>>741121801You are mad lil bro
>>741122472FUUUUAAAAAARKKKKKKK i'm not getting the WR...........
>>741122384the slinky was placed at the top of the stairs, yes.if there is a next run it will be without any harness
>>741122402Didn't watch the video but he's based for making you seethe this hard
>>741122493in this guy's defense his paper is much shorter, a mere 17 pages; perhaps because he has nothing to presenthe would have to do a lot more work to make a genuinely compelling argument that werster cheated, e.g. an analysis of how the matches progress past fight 42 or w/e
>>741122532>>741122472Before when? Changing criteria mid-run is acceptable in sm64
Absolutely crazy how much this guy made Werster cronies and schizos seethe to the point of making the same post 50 times in every thread.
>>741121846Based coach Zed enjoyer
>>741122402>>741122493Your samefagging is obvious, shitter. You've never played the battle frontier seriously so you don't understand why it's so obvious. Imagine being filtered by pokeman emerald. A game for children. I gold ranked the factory when I was 12 years old. Why couldn't you? Why couldn't your hero Werster do the same without rng manipulation?
>>741122402I actually agree that the evidence is pretty circumstantial but ultimately it doesn't matter if it pressured a confession
>>741122068Would you have me believe that some ambiguous group of "Nuzlockers," whatever tf that is, are infallible Pokemon experts and the guy I've actually heard of who talks about technical Pokemon stuff all the time is achsually uninformed about it and I should call him a fraud?
>>741122732Best part is the RNG maniping is probably a lie, as well as he said previously all over the place it wasnt rng maniped
>>741122746Pokespeedniggers never contributed anything useful
>>741122746>I've only heard popular streamer say these things so he must have discovered them himselfdo fanboys really
>>741122746you don't know what nuzlocke is? You know how uninformed that makes you sound?
>>741122276Have you seen what it's like over there?
Funny how the worchester defebse troons think anyone involves besides worchester is a speedrunner.
>>741122732>>741121679you're the one who keeps using the same verbiage, maroon
>>741122834The schizo troon left the /vp/ thread for this one.
>>741122739Confessions can also be falsified under duress, my dear fourchin.
werster won>b-b-b-but my worthless category werster won
>>741122826>uninformedof SEO content on Youtube? Woe is me.
>>741122746Speedtranny shitters wish they had the same attention put on them as nuzlockers
>>741116969>you can read donations now>oh yeah here's a good one
>>741122821I'm not giving him credit for discovering anything. You're trying to discredit him to people who dgaf whether his Pika science matches up with Youtubers and Discord fags.
>>741122575You only say this because you dont understand statistics. You dont need ten thousand pages of analysis on every ingame choice werster has made. The expose is actually exposing the failure of the western education system more than exposing werster
>>741122739i was looking for a thread to see if he was pressured into confessing basically because of how poor the analysis was in the video and paperi assume that nothing will happen and fags will slap fight for the next however longtake for instance this section from p15 of the document. i find it inherently difficult to find the analysis from the individual who wrote this credible:>i use werster's offline rate to show it is statistically likely he cheated>no i don't have my own but trust me i play the same offline and online>i can play well online>this means everyone else can play identically online and offline (see above and trust that this is true)>i am much better than werster based on our online winrates>my PB is 140>therefore werster could not have a higher PB than meyes, i get it. it sure sounds fishy, but the guy writing this and presenting it basically comes across as seething about werster saying he has a big PB. if literally anyone but this guy had done this investigation, it would be credible, but this guy is so personally vested in this that he comes across as biased even as he claims to be biasing towards werster.
>>741119339CPP was some of the most inorganic, astroturfed garbage to have ever come from /v/. A blatant marketing scam that failed so miserably anyone curious about it got bored and left long before it ended.
>>741122927nuzlocke is like 15 years old at this point lolit is you who is the newfag tourist
>>741122927Saying you don't know what color coke cola is associated with doesn't make you seem intelligent just because its not important
>>741123104Aren't you getting married soon?
>>741123076How is it coming off as biased if he's giving werster the benefit of the doubt on literally everythingYou are another faggot werster fanboy crying about how people are being mean to him
>>741123076>if literally anyone but this guy had done this investigation, it would be credibleIts actually the other way around, he's saying that even if someone as good as him or better was claiming these offline numbers it still would be practically impossible.
>>741107492This is just e-drama and trying to assassinate someones online presence
>>741123076Proofs in the pudding though. He streams every streak. Not once has he ever in years showed up with an offline streak. If you play the game almost exclusively online, then he couldnt possibly include offline digits because they arent measurable in the first place You have no argument against the actual math
>>741123283speedtroons hate werster since he said the nogword
>>741107492Misty is so hot, bros
>>741123185If I "seem intelligent" by laughing at your post then that's you in your own words. You tried to cite "nuzlockers" like they were a source on a research paper or something lmao.
Gonna do a breakdown for you retards because I see a lot of people getting this VERY wrong.Speedrunners - lots of troons (werster is not one).Smogon - very few troons but exceedingly tranny friendly (battle factory autists are a subset of this and afaik, none are troons).VGC - less troons than speedrunning but just as friendly and still way more than you'd expect.Pokemon datamining/RNG/hacking - the most troon infested of the bunch but somehow the least performatively friendly and outwardly outspoken about being troon friendly (likely due to the trannies in question knowing people only care about them for their results).Nuzlockes/challenge runs - Not as many troons but still a few and very troon friendly.Shiny hunting - literally the second most trannied out of the bunch, only behind speedrunning, about equally as tranny friendly as VGC. Hope that helps :)
>>741123359>I see a lot of people getting this VERY wrong.>gets the first thing immediately wrongwow...
>>741123334truly not knowing something is even less of an argument than pretending not to know something
>>741123381magtroon projection
>>741123283you say that like theres something wrong with it
I'm not reading any of this unhinged shit, but Werster is the best Pokemon player because he said "nigger" at a live charity event in front of Trihex.And that makes him a cut above.
>>741122532>FUUUUAAAAAARKKKKKKKretard>>741123283I don't know how these zoomers even know these people. Why would they watch other people play games?
>>741123381Sorry, if werster took a pozzed load and rediscovered his womanly side, it is news to me. Gomen v_v
>>741123431But trihex gave him the pass. Does it even count at that point?
>>741123397He isn't the one censoring comments like a troon>>741123431He tried to get it taken down. He gets no cred for it
>>741123431and now he respects pronouns, cancels problematic people and tries to get that video removed, sad!
>>741123431Remember when he tried to cancel Chugga? I can't forgive him for that.
Gonna do a breakdown for you retards because I see a lot of people getting this VERY wrong.Everyone is troons except me.Hope that helps :)
>>741123442werster used some faggy gamer girl alt name to post his refutation of emulator runs vs cart runs as a "new user clears WR" so people have latched onto that as more than the shit it is
>>741117879hi wrester!
>>741123492Facts
so how did he cheat?i aint watching a one hour video made by a troon
>>741123076You do understand that the section is pointing out that even if werster had an identical winrate to magpie, itd still be so suspicious as to be guaranteed to be fake. This isnt the got ya you think it is
>>741123492This nigga ate... AND LEFT NO CRUMBS!!!
>>741123568RNG manipulating a streak and treating it as a non-manip streak to shit on legit players. See >>741118724
holy shit some of you are acting just like leftists, to a leftist saying NIGGER at any point in time is an unforgivable sin that can't be recovered from, and to you retards saying NIGGER at any point in the past (no matter how you act now) makes you eternally virtuous horseshoe theory is always right
>>741123568Because he wanted to talk shit while also claiming he was similarly skilled or better than the people he was talking shit too
>>741123594He repented by taking BBC, that makes it permissible. Do your research.Maybe these two could help you? >>741123492 >>741123359
>>741123594Stupid nigger, kill yourself nigger, fucking nigger.Tranny.
Why is RNG manipulation against the rules?I thought every speedrunner did that to suck the fun and soul out of every game they touch.Doesn't like every Pokemon speedrun RNG absue early in the game to get up to, like, Mt Moon with zero encounters or to get a perfect Squirtle or perfect Nidoran?Why is it suddenly some unholy sin worthy of a multi-hour hitpiece when it hurts someone elses feelings?
>>741123594my lie detector is silent
>>741123389I've heard the term before. I don't know the stips and never cared to find out. One thing I do know about those challenges is that they're for milking content on YT. And yet you, with all your reverence of their Pokemon knowledge, are acting like I need an alibi for not knowing (or caring) what they've been "documenting" all these years. You haven't even made a specific claim about what they've debunked Werster about. You're here seething about him and grasping at straws to make him seem like a noob, and I think that's kind of queer.
>>741123568He didn't, he merely did not abide by the arbitrary rules of a category that the run was not submitted to, and this made the five guys (burgers and fries) circlejerking about their fact runs mad. He baited them into going even balder for about a year by repeatedly mentioning how he got a better run, without elaborating on how.It's basically just RNG'ing your way through the later bullshit of the frontier facility due to game time and other cues.
>>741123568Most likely he just edited the save file. After being caught with his pants down, he put out the excuse that he RNG maniped for the streak but this flat out contradicts what he has said in previous streams. Unfortunately its probably impossible to determine if this is a lie or not and will likely stay at this point
So many insane trannies in this thread who need to be locked up in mental asylums
>>741123593so where's the cheat?
>NOO YOU CAN'T CHEAT IN MY SHITTY RULESET NOBODY GIVES A FUCK ABOUTpathetic
>>741110630>"accidental" manip.lmao stopped reading right there, no need to read more bullshit
>>741123658This isn't a speedrun. Speed has no barring on this. It's more like an endurance run in an endless mode.
Chibi and Werster... the only speedrunners that never trooned out in the end...
>>741123658It's not a speedrun, it's longest streak, which has a no manip rule. RNG manip removes any skill expression from the battles since you just get the same broken Pokemon every time like Starmie3.
>>741123680Look up what 'legit' means, ESLtard.
>>741123594trvth nvke
>>741123359Video creator - trannyTranny - mentally insane
>>741123727go to bed chibi
>>741123742How did he cheat?
>>741123680>>741123664>>741123658>>741123724WERSTER IS LYING BOUT RNG MANIPING. HE JUST SAVE EDITED,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KXYKHNRr1UAt the very end of the video, last 30 seconds. He says his 200 streak is REAL. Then spends the next year acting like hes Ash Ketchum
>>741123740the irony is that starmie isn't even particularly strong in doubles, which just makes his claims even more dubious
>>741107492>>741111607So it sounds like:Werster got some high factory records and claimed no rng manipulation was used. This appears to be implausible. His defense seems to be what he did to get those records is in a grey area that arguably is not manipulation, but he is now open to accepting the claim that it was manipulation.
>>741123801Did that rile you somehow?
>>741123801>acting like hes Ash Ketchum>is a fraudwhat's the problem?
>>741123724Ah. So people who don't game the system and play on the fly are mad that he "solved" a thing they gamble on.Is that cheating though? Or is it simply solving part of "the run"I don't care if he's a clown about it or a cunt or whatever. He always was. How is it "cheating"?
>>741123813>it's not manipped... it was identified!LOL what a faggot
>>741123431Werster reminds me of a time when we could say nigger for charity. Meanwhile Discord troons want to pretend they're making some great contribution by turning charity marathons into their own personal stomping ground/money laundering operation where nobody says anything "offensive" and everybody says trans rights every 4 seconds.Those people are itt right now to convince everyone that he's a bad actor because he makes up his own speedrunning rules when ONLY Discord groups should be allowed to do that.
>>741123569Stop talking like a tranny now groomed kid
>>741123813Yes. He spent every waking second seething over the factory community and faked a run to have laurels to rest on. When got called out he changes tunes and says its "accidently maniped"
>>741123594It's not virtuous but it's nice to not get sabotaged for saying it. Hope this helps.
>>741123861Like you're trying really really hard to convince everyone werster is legit because he said niggers once and wants it taken down now?
>>741123835lmao. lol even
>>741123740>which has a no manip ruleSays who, exactly? Spell it out for me.
>>741123852Because he was lying saying it was done naturally, for no other reason than to have evidence that he's a skilled player. All the number crunching did was expose the lie, autism vs autism and the math autism won.
>>741123740>following rules made up by some faggot tranny when playing offlineLOOOOOOOOOL
ill just wait for jobst to make a video about this
>>741123930werster
>>741123860When you have played the same game the same way for 10,000 hours and have read likely nothing other than conversations about it you tend to notice patterns, yesit's not replacing the typewriter monkey with a robot, it's replacing the typewriter monkey with a weird monk guy who has copied the text of the book 100 times
>>741123930give it up werster, just make an apology video and move on
>>741123978thanks chatgpt
>>741123765I like that sleep
>>741109093town bike has a conversation with a town bike
>>741123916It's not really about Werster's cred, or whatever you're here to attack about him. I'm saying I like that there was a time when you could say nigger and raise money for charity at the same time, without thousands of dollars of it going into the pockets of Discord-dwelling dilators. Again, hope this helps.
>>741123978And this is why you play with emulators on speedup. Think about it, werster.
LRXC is cool and not a troon, I knew him well when I played 1v1 on Smogon like 5 or 6 years ago
>>741123916Like im like a like tranny
>>741124040In their own category, sure
>>741123978>i didn't mean to shoot the guy i just have shot so many people that my hand automatically went for the trigger
>>741124037There should have been alternative dialogue as a female player where she's just being a catty bitch to you
>>741124059Too scared to duke it out with the good players like always, huh?
>watch werster>chat arguing about which pokemon move would you want irl>i say payday>"if you pick payday you're most probably a very boring person irl">stop watching werster
>>741124050typically when talking about someone you knew in the past the word "was" is better suited, you've got no way of knowing what someone's up to today>>741124065Should he have manually sat around and waited to deliberately not "manipped" since he knows a number of the cues? Wouldn't that itself be manipping into bad RNG, and still manip?
>>741123813>a predictable and humanly reproducible way to manipulate rng is bad, you're supposed to approach this as a slot machine and hope you get WR, and in fact actively take steps to avoid positive outcomesThe pokemon community isn't this retarded, right? Because everytime I hear about these people the less and less I feel like tolerating them.
>>741108258>autistic speedrun cheater vs HYPER AUTISMAGNATE ELDER SPERGLORD SPEEDUN CHEATER EXAMINOR>gets obliteratedThey never learn the autism hierarchy huh.
>>741123930Both werster and smogon agree on this rule.
>>741123978The funny part is even if it was true it still doesn't explain how he got the streak so quickly, unless he fully manipulated every single battle to win each one in a few minutes. It all comes back to the game timer at the end and the numbers don't add up.
>>741124110kek destroyed>>741124125 (Me) *not be manipped. too many words added between others as I went along
>>741124110Imagine living for goycoin
>>741123658It's banned because it apparently makes the game extremely easy because you can manipulate which Pokemon you get in the initial draft even though having "good" Pokemon in the initial draft doesn't guarantee a win. Also having external spreadsheets of all trainers, potential Pokemon they can/cannot bring, their movesets, EV spreads, items etc with quick macros to automatically display every last piece of info you need to know about the fight instantly doesn't make the game easier, nor does using an external tool to damage calc. That is definitely, positively, not cheating. No sir.
>>741124110Jew swindled
>>741124125>Should he have manually sat around and waited to deliberately not "manipped" since he knows a number of the cues? Wouldn't that itself be manipping into bad RNG, and still manip?I mean the fact you're dancing around it kinda proves the point. No one else on the planet has this "problem"
>>741124141Hi avatartranny! Go make a shmup thread now.
>>741124110That's rich considering werster is the most boring manchild in the world. Literally 0 hobbies or interests outside of sitting in a pitch black room and playing pokemon for the billionth time
>>741123961But other anons are saying he didn't submit the run.If he lied about something he did on his own that didn't effect other people who are doing the thing legit and having their legit score compared against each other, how did he cheat anyone? Cheating implies he robbed someone of a rightful victory.If I use save states and then tell everyone I'm the greatest NES TMNT player in the world, everyone would just say "fuck off retard."If I submit my run and get on a leaderboard, then yeah, I cheated other people out of a title.If he wants to sit around and manipulate his gameplay and then brag about skill, the correct solution is to simply ignore him and isolate him from the community.Multi-hour essays about him imply he has wrongfully taken credit for something that he didn't earn over somebody who did. I'm not gathering that from the admittedly all over the place claims I'm seeing.This looks like a case of Werster's cuntiness riling up people again. But hey, destroy the whole damn Pokemon IP over it for all I care.Have at him.
>>741124125LRXC is still around, he didn't magically disappear. Pretty sure he still streams and whatever. Anon in question could still have a very good idea what he's up to.
>>741124156THIS is what confuses me, even if you rig it it still doesn't account for the time
>>741124141manipulating the game to avoid interacting with intended mechanics is cheating yes hope this helps >>741124172only a retard would equate a calculator with forcing the game to do what you want
>>741124182So you're saying no one else on the planet is as familiar with the game system as he is, constituting an execution skill which he has to restrain to be "fair" in a category he wasn't even running?if you're playing thousand year door do you deliberately flub the perfect bounces because it's not realistic?
>>741124141this is how i feel about retarded shmupniggers like you to be fairnow fuck off
>>741124218see >>59362740
>>741124172directly rigging what happens in the game that's supposed to be random is different to having access to information, yes
>>741124282*pseudorandom
>>741124218>If I use save states and then tell everyone I'm the greatest NES TMNT player in the world, everyone would just say "fuck off retard."That's essentially what the video spent an hour doing, yes. He rigged some stats to lord it over the people who actually play seriously and they clapped back over it, it's not any more serious than that. He fucked around and now he's finding out.
>>741124230>avoid interacting with intended mechanics is cheatingIt's not cheating, RNG is coded into the game. It's like saying mario speedruns are cheating when they manipulate the end number on the timer to affect hammer bro positioning and behavior. That's the meta of the game. It was programmed that way. It's obviously intended by the developers.
>>741123813also, here's the full thing, since I don't think it's been posted
>>741124110What was his pick then? We might have some real dirt on him here.
>>741124172Sorry werster, spreadsheets with trainer data aren't the same thing. If you were skilled like Magpie with his 98% win rate, you wouldn't need to play with them at all.
>>741124319>all this just to say "my b"
>>741124125To manip the BF in the way werster claims, you would need to reset the game between every set, rather than playing multiple sets in a row. Given the time frame of the streak, at least to me, it seems pretty ridiculous to say you're starting and stopping, turning off the game, then restarting every set when you're going to continue playing anyways. Not like he's taking an 8 hour break between every set. It seems like you'd only do this if you were knowingly going for some gamestate and trying to manipulate the rng to get it since emerald works on a set seed.
>>741124315Oh no, he drew the ire of the hoenn battle frontier community!
>>741124334Teleport iirc.
>>741124365Narcissists have a very hard time apologizing for anything, it's like squeezing blood from a stone.
>>741124282But would that information not directly allow you to rig an outcome by manipulating the AI since you know what it will likely do under certain HP thresholds and whatnot?Seems like having spreadsheets and calculators let you directly affect the AI's next move by knowing if it will cross into certain checks or not.
>>741124218Talk shit get hit. Hes been seething over factory players since he started speed running factory, depsite talking all that shit he couldnt compete, and they called him out on it when he faked it. >>741124318Oh youre just a retard ok. >>741124367its extremely clear to anyone with a functioning frontal cortex that he edited his save
>>741124318The category in question bans manip. But I know shmupfags have the lowest IQ on this board, so I can go slow for you if you like.
>>741124150So in other words, it's arbitrary if not outright pointless considering it came from Smogon.
>>741124224>imageMe when I try to gimmick max with Flapple
Everyone is missing the most important fact in this entire thing. He's Australian. Shitposting is literally in their nature.
>>741124375Their opinion must matter to him or he wouldn't be trying to win their approval by faking stats. The rest of us who aren't autistic just get to watch a spectacle for a day or two.
>>741124385Boring ass choicePay me up
>>741124319I like how he says "If you wanted to say the 212 streak was RNG manipped, you can" instead of "yes, the run used RNG manippulation."What the fuck does "can" even mean in this context. There is only a yes or a no and he admits to it being a yes.
>>741124367He said he was playing his streak to cool down after other runs so restarting the game often seems likely
>>741124395But it's impossible to ban manipulation as RNG is a static mathematical calculation hard coded into the game. So you're just confirming my suspicion that the pokemon community is incredibly stupid and doesn't even like the games, and would rather pretend to play them in a very juvenile way.
>>741108258>eceleb troon dramaGod damn y'all are boring if this is all you're talking about. You guys know there's a World cup going on, right? Maybe the Stanley cup? Or Trump's big birthday bash? Anything else is more interesting than some random literal who faggot that plays a kid's game and injects HRT lying about some speedrun bullshit.
>>741124319>tl;dr halfway through the wall of text making the summary as long as the original though
>>741124110>you're most probably a very boring person irl>said by someone who does nothing but play pokemon all day every dayKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKhow the fuck is having infinite money boring?>choose fly>NOO NOO FLYING IS BORING YOU HAVE TO SAY THE SAME EXACT MOVE I'M THINKING OF BECAUSE I'M SO INTERESTINGwhat the fuck are you supposed to do with the other moves, kill everyone?
>>741124491Not only that, but his tldr boils down to >Yeah I cheated but you are retarded for believing it was legit!
>>741124459It's like saying "I'm sorry you feel offended" instead of "I'm sorry for calling you a nigger." He can't argue out of it so he just tries to sidestep it with a half-admission and a bunch of misdirection.
>>741124315>He fucked around and now he's finding out.>>741124394>Talk shit get hit.Pretty sure Werster never went making multiple threads on multiple boards on 4chan to discredit any of you-ahem...them.
>>741124475Akshually manipless is a common category in speedrunning just usually not as popular as any%
>>741124479>this threadthing I like>those thingsthe stanley sucked this year and the others are even gayer than ice skating men manhandling each other and their sticks of wooddo not appeal to divegrass on /v/ of all places, it doesn't even have gameplay
>>741124475And what tool are you using to predict this when you're playing on speed-up online when you can't time frame-perfect inputs like that? This is also not allowed by the way. People also naturally don't reset their games between sets, that's also sus.
>>741124550>"I'm sorry you feel offended>"I'm sorry for calling you a nigger."Those are not mutually inclusive. I can be sorry for your emotional distress without being sorry that I said the nigger word. This has before happened.
werster should've graduated to nuzlocke or vgc already. speed runs are too pozzed now
anyway, fuck the battle factory, my first shiny after playing for 10 years or whatever was a rental mightyena in a replay of emerald
>>741124620You can say it but you're just being wishy washy and not committing to either stance, like he's doing there.
>>741124396I wouldn't say it's arbitrary, but subjective. The rule exists to stop exactly what werster did, rng the best team you can have to speedrun through the facility meeting very little opposition. Is it too much or doesn't go far enough? Who knows, that's up to the players.>came from smogonAwful reasoning for anything ever. The rule exists for a reason and the existing community agrees on it, that's about all that can be said one way or another. It's just a forum that people use or don't use, at the end of the dayhttps://www.smogon.com/forums/forums/battle-facilities.697/
>>741124475rng manip is frame specific and only matters if you are constantly resetting the game, which in normal play you never do. Its quite easy to ban
>>741124668He sucks too much for even Drayano nuzlockes.
>>741124469Often is different than every single time
>>741124550>"I'm sorry you feel offended" instead of "I'm sorry for calling you a nigger."
>>741124710you can aim for "clusters" when manipping the factory where you end up with a couple of good pokemon in close range to each other, thereby making missing your ideal frame less punishingWerster did this in his all golds battle frontier run if you want an example
who fucking cares holy shit
>>741124396The smogoons are vastly overhyped as villains desuI got the most opportunities to use different pokemon creatures in different situations as a result of their tiering system and bizarre formats so it'll always be fine to me
>>741124315please don't use my wife for shitposting. thank you
>>741124475wow shmuptranny really got the pokefags therenow go cry about touhou in your shmup thread again
>>741124668Has he not streamed champions? I'd guess it'd be easy money if his autism allowed him, and a lot of big vgc players want that "VGC PLAYER COACHING ME!!" Co-stream clout right now, though I think most of the people doing that are much bigger than him now.
>>741124668>>741124813He sucks at pokemon. Thats the whole reason he had to fake this in the first place >>741118724>>741124773You can but you still need to start from a known seed, in emerald thats from boot. You cant manip otherwise, and through normal play there is no maniping
>>741124668Aren't Pokemon Nuzlockes dominated by some German literal homosexual named Franz or something?If it's Pokemon, it's pozzed.
>>741124796I will use *my* wife as I wish, including speaking objectively correct information, thank you.
>>741124668>graduated to nuzlockeHow to you graduate to that from doing runs where you have to be almost frame perfect on a bike without being seen by other trainers for hours on end?>vgclmao
>>741115593Was that the bitch that was filmed getting manhandled all giddy right outside some hotel room?
>>741124773>Werster did this in his all golds battle frontier run if you want an exampleHe was resetting between sets for that. If he did it in a non manip run it'd be suspicious>>741124790Hi werster
>>741124849All games are pozzed to a degree. Actual human beings have jobs and lives and friends and women to fuck and cant be bothered to sit around all day and make youtube videos of them playing video games
>>741124865>you have to be almost frame perfect on a bike without being seen by other trainerslol. lmao.i bet he couldn't clear roark split deathless in PK in a week.
>>741115593It died when it stopped being 10 autistic men in a basement with a camcorder and turned into 500 autistic (women) in a venue sharing their mental trauma.
So, to summarize
>>741124993Essentially, yes. Some fanboys of one autist are getting really mad that he was put on blast and we're laughing at them.
>>741124991Wasn't 2013 the year with the woman trauma dumping about cancer during OoT? It was always pozzed, nigger.
>>741124795Not him, but most of my hate for smogon communities was/is from them being very intetionally unaware of any other aspect of pokemon besides their single format and tiers. I don't hold animosity towards them, as that's pretty much changed over the last few months due to almost all the big influencers at least trying out vgc and figuring out pokemon can do stuff outside of singles. Of course vgc players and smogon players both do this in relation to pokemon primarily existing as a single player game that needs route 1 shitmons and pokemon to fill out the world that aren't competitive beasts in either format, but feels like vgc players (for the most part) have more self-awareness about their chosen way to play being tacked on to a single player game rather than something that the entire franchise should revolve around (there's still quite a few vgc players who do that, though, and I dislike them)
>>741125051Yeah, those magtroons are pretty crazy, aren't they.
>>741124704>the existing community agrees on itA.K.A. those who weren't banned from Smogon or speedrunning Discords over the past decade for not falling in line with subversive troonism. You can see the continuity problem this poses to any insinuation you want to make about the validity of any of these "rules", let alone any justified punitive action against anyone for breaking them, which in this case seems to be a smear campaign by his direct competitors with conflicts of interest on an anonymous basket board. lmao.
>>741119339The only good pokemon threads were fucking demotivationals and nuzlocke shit
>>741124832You can get masterball in champs being ass with a solid team you stole, and it'd be even easier if you were being coached. Fucking Jimothy Cool, the washed gen 3 player, is probably going to eventually get champion rank with a watchog if he streams a few more times.
>>741125126>nuzlocke shitThe ones with good players playing hard romhacks, not the tranny cartoon shitters, right?
>>741125073Singles is still the best format in the game that lets you use the most things instead of crutching on stuff specifically designed for doubles, it's far less sacky and you get alternate team schemes like stall (fuck hard stall THOUGH) instead of HO prediction 5 minute matches
>shmuptranny shits himself when a game has to rely on skill and not just memorization
>>741125126The Claude threads gave us some good OC, even though they moved way too fast for how little was actually happening
>>741124849I think he's fallen off and just seethes on stream nowadays. I don't know who the biggest creator who actually puts out videos is anymore, but feels like they've all fractured into gimmick runs after everyone finished runandbun. Also the german pivoted to running a pseudo-meme vgc tournament with another streamer.
>>741124795Showdown mods are the torchbearers of Smogon's reputation at this point and they're corrupt as hell.
>>741125205Towards the end clod was moving faster than the threads, I think the in between was bestThe robot has to be just retarded enough to be interesting while still being able to go places
>>741125062>speedrunning didn't exist before 2013This is a no-cocksmoking establishment, sir.Please step outside.
>>741125202What skill is there in pokemon? I've played showdown before and it's pretty much just rock paper scissors with pokemon swapping. Memorization is mastery, engaging with deeply embedded mechanics like how RNG is coded elevates skill level and makes for a consistent playing field. If the end result is trivial and stupid, well the game is trivial and stupid.
>>741125283So it was always pozzed, thanks retard.
>>741111095Tyrone
>>741125168I meant the first nuzlocke comics.
>>741125191Yeah it's pretty fun. I just dislike how they treat things clearly designed for a different purpose and cry about how it isn't made just for them. A lot of them seem like they genuinely would be happier playing something like hoenn gaiden but know no one else would care about it so they just complain about other groups existing and stuff not fitting what they want exclusively.
>>741125314ELO: 7001ccs: Touhou on Normal mode
>tranny can't comprehend mind gamesno wonder he was so shit at fighting games when he tried larping at them
>>741125106Someone got muted for raging in randbats, didn't xe
>>741125314The skill is autistically playing it so much that you know how much damage scissors is going to do to paper and when rock is going to switch back into scissors.
>>741125432this is a chronic shitposter that fucks every thread he's in. don't engage.i already suspected half of this thread was the same shmup schizos and i was correct.
>>741125062It was the last normal year and that woman was totally out of place.Speedrunning died when Bluegrass was no longer free to inflict psychological damage on Mike "Touhou Abuser" Uyama simply by existing.
>>741125432But isn't that just MTG tier ivory tower design, ie a large pool of relatively shallow knowledge checks?
>>741125537Why did you bomb this simple attack by the way? Just wondering.
>>741125379It's funny because that's literally how it is
>>741125571I no longer desire to own a vertical monitor
>>741125571this makes these games look like snoresville
>>741125571Because he only does bad easy shitclears with terrible score and never plays them again
>>741125501>sh,mups out of nowhereIs...is this a thing this guy does a lot?Is he the "derail threads with schmup schizophrenia" guy?I don't frequent speedrunner threads. This feels like a thing he does.
>>741125415Got muted for not playing along with the gay Pride garbage they ended up doing for two months straight (and are doing again right now). Lots of people got banned for that, then subsequently trash talked by the mods after they couldn't reply anymore.
>>741125643that's just bullet hell games for trannies which are easy and slow
>>741125571Shotia has low damage and therefore has to spend about triple the amount of time on bosses as Exy does, and that pattern is typically bombed for consistency as the next bomb triggers max bonus regardless if you are full or not, as it is the first bomb drop in the game. Unlike say touhou, you cannot stock 10 bombs at once and completely ignore resources.
Why are shmup fans obssessed with thinking the equivalent of a digital golf course you can play as much as you want takes any skill?
this tranny was banned in one of his shmup threads for posting cp btw
>>741125690i could tell by how fast he responds, how much he repeats the same shit and how low iq his posts arethe 3x3 threads and game density threads are all him too
we were having a nice thread until glupshitto and glupshitto hater showed up
>>741125571the route I copied from youtube like a chimp did it
I am thoroughly enjoying schizos revealing themselves as speedrun discord users and pokemon undesirables.
>>741125801it was not a nice thread at all, it's part 2 to a previous thread that was identical to this one
>>741125801Sorry shmupnigger, the jig is up.
>>741125838i enjoy internet drama fights, so i thought it was good
so what are her odds of obtaining the rainbowbadge in the next 24 hours?
>>741125801Yes, can we please get this back on track about arguing over a washed up cave goblin Pokemon speedrunner and some band of verbose seething homosexuals?
>>741125571I thought these games took concentrationWhy are you watching anime on the side like some ADHD troon
>>741125937No, we're talking about poopdickschizo now
>>741125937this, so much thisit's a shame we'll never get hilarious DQ's at VGC events anymore so people sperg about that too
>even Japanese shmup players are troons
>>741125972the tranny doesn't play anything difficult but wants to larp that he doesxhe's like the werster of shmups
>>741126026I stopped caring about any of these players, teams, or sets when XY had something like a DW mon in the wrong ball, GF is so fucking lazy
I want to play some based pokemon silver and try to nuzlocke it
>>741126162Silver is pretty easy so go for it ig
>>741126114imagine caring beyond laughing at the people too stupid to click the "legality check" button in PKhex
>>741126162Route variety in Johto is kinda beans.
>>741107492don't fuck with true factorychads
>>741126301It's just not an environment I would want to expose myself to, to begin with
>>741107492i want to FUCK misty
>>741126162do ultra moon instead
>>741126302IIRC it's pretty diverse as a whole but a bunch of Pokemon are a pain in the ass to get if you already have Rattata and Pidgey. Day/night cycle, swarms, headbutting etc, Johto is just like that.
>>741126334thats a child
>>741125772He got really pissed at an EoSD question interrupting his samefagging in "his" shmup thread then started spamming CP in the Touhou threads. The whole community is beyond fucked because of a few schizos.
>>741126337that game sucks dick
>>741125314Reminder
>>741126668not for nuzlockes
>>741126608toe hoes were a mistake
>>741126608Wait what?
>>741126864
>>741126704The troon won sadly. Being so mindbroken that you subject yourself to doing things you hate is a bad look. Banger soundtrack though
>>741126932
>Werster himself has infiltrated the thread and completely subverted it into some schmup shitpostWell play.
>>741126932>idk man not me>1 minute later>it's me actuallyLOL
>>741127007yep, I'm thinking based
>>741126980Tranny behaviorNot surprised they defend werster
guys we need a new thread, werster's number 3 opp (opp means opponent) exarion is giving his take
>>741126932Genuine low IQ.
>>741127246this dude has done like 3 long ass streams on this. these people are on werster hard
>>741127246>we need another thread for these motherfuckers to shit up from the word goThe e-drama is bad enough. Do not unleash this shit from containment.
