Why didn't Digimon ever get as big as Pokémon?
Frontiers is the only good Digimon season
It's obsession with pink shit
They forgot to make a proper game
>>741109439Savers
It was just a cheap copycat
>>741109870Fuck you!!!!
>>741109335i am glad it didn't became the utter filth that is modern pokemon
Lack of cohesive easy to understand premise. Pokemon is just "different world with monsters you can catch". It's fun and easy to imagine yourself in that world.
because it has no consistencythe monsters go from dinosaurs to anime girls with tits and guns to anthro furriesif anything it makes me wish those designs had their own games but to pretend they coexist in the same universe is bonkers. The fact that they can just change back is also a turn offI think what also hurts Digimon is that it has "no face" there is no mon or character that represents the franchise like Pikachu does for Pokemon, the closest is probably OP's image or Renamon
>>741110218The fact that I have no idea who Renamon is says a lot about this series confused identity
>>741109439Everything went to shit after season 2. Having them combine with their Digimon then not even have a Digimon partner and instead become the Digimon was really stupid.
UhhThe first few games were niche, grindy, and constantly changed genre- and the names are not very iconic because they all sound kinda similar.You can't cold open with Digimon World 1 on a six year old and expect them to keep up.
the same retarded arguments that aren't even true btw
>>741110535nigger you are free to join the conversation thenwhy isn't digimon as big as pokemon
>>741110218>the monsters go from dinosaurs to anime girls with titsWhat the fuck...
>>741110749because it didn't have trading mechanics
>>741109335Digimon rap.
>>741110218>there is no mon or character that represents the franchise like Pikachu does for PokemonIt's MetalGreymon but selling figurines is harder than selling plushies.
>>741109335>elementary school>everyone loves Pokemon and are always having pretend Pokemon battles during recess>be the one kid who likes Digimon>ruthlessly bullied about itPokemon was always a normalfag franchise.
Saban crippled Digimon permanently and I'm completely serious.
>>741110364Digimon Tamers is kino.
Disregarding the designs, Pokemon just had a much better multimedia plan.You buy the new games to catch the new Pokemon, you watch the show to see Ash meet the new Pokemon, maybe you'll come to like one you missed or didn't pay much attention to and then you get all the cards and merch.Digimon was centered around the v-pets which the shows only loosely referenced and the put out games like World in which most of the roster was unobtainable to the player. If nothing else, Pokemon was always really good at letting the kids get to know the monsters. The Pokedex is in and of itself a masterful piece of marketing.
>>741111198>The Pokedex is in and of itself a masterful piece of marketing.That and Pokemon saying their own names in the anime. It's annoying but damn if it didn't work.
>>741109335Mainly these reasons:1. A lot of inconsistent 'evolutions'2. A lot of ridiculous designs3. Dumb-ass real world to break immersion4. Being "digital" instantly makes everything so much less real and interesting5. Insane stories, prophecies, chosen ones and all kinds of silly things6. Too many protagonists7. Speaking monsters sort of give them too much life and personality, which makes using them for battling less beastial, monstrous and feral, and more like noble warriors or mascots, which was not exactly cool anymore
>>741110218>aaahhhh noooo not more than 1 option this sucks aaahhhhh>The fact that you can get new moves and boost your stats from their higher evolutions and then revert back to keep an appearance you prefer is a turn off instead of being locked to a design you don't like?>no faceAgumon's line is pretty much the face. People know WarGreymon. He does the spirit bomb.
>>741109335>No consistency in anything be it the Digivolutions or the games.>Digimon are functionally amorphous blobs that can turn into anything which detaches a person from caring about the Digimon as much as they do Pokemon.Their male dog (Terriermon) can turn into a female cat (Gatomon) which becomes a male panda (Pandamon) which then becomes a male Japanese delinquent lion (BanchoLeomon).>The designs in general are all over the place with many of them being offputting to people. It's not Yokai Watch-level offputting but stuff like leaning into Sukamon doesn't exactly feel good to people.>Until the DS/PSP era they didn't even have a "mainline" game which eventually became Story and World games so people had no idea what to expect.>The fanbase is insistent on using Japanese names and terms which further gatekeeps people even though the official western names have existed for like 20-25 years at this point and are used in everything including their own websites and products.Pokemon fans outside of the most mentally ill ones don't do this yet for Digimon it's completely normal so you have to know Tailmon is Gatomon, Machinedramon is Mugendramon, Agunimon is Agnimon, Leopardmon is Duftmon, Ultra is actually Super Ultimate and Mega is actually Ultimate, etc.>When it initially came out it was perceived as a Pokemon knockoff because Pokemon beat them to the punch which ruined its reputation in the west until years of clawing its way into it and the success of Cyber Sluts in particular paving the way.>The games in general either had esoteric mechanics (DW1), major problems (DW2 and DW3), or never released in the west to begin with (Re:Digitize).>Even when they tried getting back the fanbase prior to Cyber Sluts you had nonsense like All Star Rumble as the poster child for it.It's pretty easy to see why.
FOREVER UNITED AS ONE
>>741111297Wrong
>>741112000Actually, something else I forgot to mention>You are forced in some of the games to Dedigivolve which makes it very easy to lose who you even started the game with or feels like padding.>Both CS and HM pretty much mandate the Platinum + Tactician USB strategy or you're going to be grinding forever so if you don't know that the game is gonna be suckier than it should be.>Even when you find Digimon you like you may go into a brand new game and never have access to them at all.Quick example to point to is something like Snimon, or those TCG-exclusive DigiEgg Digimon.
Because Pokemon kept the same genre games and had a longer anime that kept its MC etc.More people related with the Pokemon anime.
>>741110364What they should have done is keep the "becoming Digimon" aspect BUT make it so that the kids combine with their partners to make the Legendary Warriors.>Takuya + Flamon = Agnimon>Kouji + Strabimon = WolfmonGranted they'd have to make four more Rookie/Child forms for the other kids, but I believe they could have done it. Furthering the bonds would unlock the Beast Evolutions, then the Fusions Forms after that.
>>741111198Not helping is also that Pokemon benefited greatly from it being handheld, Digimon not going that route, while it makes sense as to not be seen as a clone (when it was already catching that flack back then), didn't help it, with DW1 a pretty in depth game for a child. Kids aren't stupid, but Pokemon's ease into RPG mechanics and battle helped push it more.
>>741112262I actually was thinking of this idea. Kids have partners but they have to combine with them to digivolve.Basically tamers but the merge digivolve starts at perfect/adult.
>>741112469Exactly, AND it would make it so that once the Royal Knights come knocking, the other four kids aren't just sitting on the fucking sidelines half the time.
>>741112458It had handheld games, in japan
>>741112619Honestly that's me forgetting them, but yeah, they were in Japan alone. Some of them only released on the dam WonderSwan, as system that ALSO never left Japan.And the handheld games we got were fucking Battle Spirits and Racing, not till the DS did we get a proper game.
Pokemon wildlife is somewhat inspired by real life animal science. There's Pokemon like Eevee or Arcanine that a kid would want to own as a pet. Digimon leans more into 90s/2000s computer tech, mecha monsters and anime girls. To the casual observer, Digimon designs can look completely degenerate.
Don't care, love wolver/bearcatmon
>>741109870You forgot to turn the protag into blacks while the big bad boss is a white guy
>>741112914>IsWas.
Their cats are inferior.
>Hey Digimon>Hey Digimon
>>741110218No way Renamon lol clearly it's Agumon. Agumon ain't really cute tho
>>741112262Funny thing is that the main cast already included Digimon to begin with so partners Digimon wouldn't fundamentally change the series too much.It just wouldn't be useless fucks like these.
Pokémon has more innocent seeming designs, it's more family friendly. Digimon has a lot more degenerate types, there's much more fat hairy men who like furry bellies and want to rub them and blow raspberries on them than any other monster franchise.
>>741109335consistencyin pokemon you have a streamlined formula across all games, in digimon this is not the case. this plays with expectations
What made it stand out to me was the anime, in which you had one digimon partner who is also an actual character and partner to you who you go on an adventure with. But as far as I know, there are no games that give an experience like that.
>>741113239Bokomon could be kept as the exposition character, Neamon wouldn't be needed since Boko's stuffiness could bounce of the Partner Digimon.
>>741111297I'd say too many protag is probably one of it but that's just for the anime. I think the gameplay is too complex for kids, and there's no widespread morning anime like Pokemon airing in the 90's. There's the Digimon 1 and 2 which were popular. Digimon 3 is lacklustre imo
>>741113441The MMO is kind of like that but it sucks. The best Digimon to date is Time stranger and you have a full team like Pokemon.
>>741109335One of the major factors is that no one can tell you what a typical Digimon game is. EVERYONE on /v/ can tell you what a typical Pokemon game plays like. There are other factors I realized after watching the anime but that is the one most relevant for this board.
>>741113698>Bokomon could be kept as the exposition characterEven that could be done by a partner, Tentomon was kind of like that.
>>741114113Most Digimon games are turn based jrpgs. They do experiment a lot but that's always been the case. PS1, GBA, DS, PSP, PS4/5, STEAM, all of them have turn based JRPGS. Digimon gets shat on for trying new things, Pokemon gets praised for NEVER doing anything new.
>>741109335how do digimon and pokemon peacefully coexist given how litigious the japanese, especially pokemon, have become in recent years?
>we could do a 1-off game POKEMON VS DIGIMON and make bank>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MY SACRED IP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>741114329Pokemon games are turn based jrpgs...
>>741114627Digimon isn't worthy enough to stand side by side with Pokemon.
>>741114292Might as well make it Kokabuterimon, might even play off it being the smart one and JP being... JP.
>>741109335You know why. Stop asking.
>>741114329>Most Digimon games are turn based jrpgsThat wasn't the case for years. You have the advantage of hindsight but for many years it's been all over the place since there's World games, actual V-pet ports, Story games, fighting games, and SRPG, and even TCG games. It wasn't until around the DS/PSP era that Story and World started to get realized as the "mainline" games of the series, the V-pets, TCG, and fighting games were their own things.
>>741114660So are most Digimon games. They experimented, that doesn't takeaway from that fact. Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, Pokken nor the basic MOBA change that fact. It's just Digimon experimented a lot more especially in the past where it clearly wasn't as advantageous.
>>741112914>Pokemon wildlife is somewhat inspired by real life animal science.I wish this were still true but modern Pokemon has basically become softcore Digimon + pet shit. That sense of a feral monster that has to be contained within a Pokeball is completely gone.>Digimon leans more into 90s/2000s computer techI wish this was also still true but now they've had to adjust to modern tech and it just blends in with everything else.
>>741114627>Digimon can nuke planets off the face of the universe>pokemon cantCrossover ain't happening, bud
>>741115062>That sense of a feral monster that has to be contained within a Pokeball is completely gone.That's bullshit, the whole Legends subseries revolves around the idea that Pokemon can be dangerous if interacted without Pokeballs.
>>741115252>a whole 2 gameswoah
>>741115252Dont bring up these garbage tier spin offs. I can give credit to the first one but not the second. The only Pokemon that should ever be in a city are stage 1 domesticated ones like Eevees and Delcattys and their evolved forms. A fucking Tyranitar should never be inside a city ever.
>>741115802Legends ZA pisses me off primarily on it taking place ONLY in Lumiose City, like come the fuck on.
>>741115171JUMP has crossovers all the time, Naruto fights Goku, it's a videogame with no canon, your point?
please please please UP or alysion either one be at least decent...
>>741109335Doing my best here, working off old memories mostly:>most Digimon games are completely different genres, and few titles actually say what the fuck it is (looking at you, Digimon World 1-4)>Digimon actively avoids the "it just gets bigger" thing, which led to a lot of normalfags getting confused when their cute plant monster becomes a fuckhuge punching cactus, then becomes a half-naked fairy, or their cat becomes a completely human angel>music isn't as catchy or iconic>Digimon as a whole leaned further into the "anime vibes" compared to Pokemon, at a time when anime was still pretty niche>very few cute squishy Digimon compared to Pokemon, outside of the really low-level stuff>the anime itself simply didn't compare to the more universal appeal of "kid goes on an adventure with his pet">quite a lot of people I knew got really autistic about the whole "Digivolving up AND down" thing. I personally got annoyed because of how situational it was, less about unlocking a new "level" and more about the writers selectively wanting tension>half of each episode is eaten up by the credits, the intro, and the constantly-reused digivolution animations and the constantly-reused attack animations>I remember people getting put off by the Digimon talking, as opposed to kids saying "pika pika" in the playgrounds at school>parents didn't like half the Digimon designs>basically no merch compared to Pokemon, and few/no cuddly stuffed animals for kids and moms to hug like Pokemon didThis is mostly just shit from the 90s too. Digimon fumbled the ball harder by fixing very few of the things above, but made it worse by having all their games be inconsistent messes, ranging wildly in content and quality.
>>741116194You get to choose what your monster becomes that's way cooler than being forced in to 1 or 2 linear evolutions. >doesn't lean in to what girls and women wantBased.
I was the only one in my school who could even watch digimon because it was shown on a channel you could only see with a satellite back thenI liked it but I had nobody to talk about it with, like, ever
>>741109335I was at just the right age (elementary school) when digimon came out and can say that I was a pretty big fan at the time. I LOVED playing Digimon World at my friend's house and I even liked watching the show. I remember friends talking about how they wanted a cooler/grittier version of pokemon so there was still a niche for digimon to fill. If I were to single anything out, it's the buttfucking confusing names and evolutions. You can't begin to create iconic, memorable designs if children can't remember their names, ie "Charizard" versus "Malomyotismon." Aside from that it was just weird and confusing when evolutions looked like a completely different species or straight up became humans. I think good/evil forms depending on the trainer would be an advantage over pokemon but digimon's stuff was all over the place.
>>741109335The problem is the core gameplay of some of their games are a little too niche. Cyber Sleuth gained some amount of popularity due to it being similar to SMT. However, the world games like Next Order are a monster raising sim in the same vein as Monster Rancher and as much as I like those games over cyber sleuth they generally do not have the same mass appeal. Normies literally complain when their Digimon die and they have to raise them all over again.
>>741117613That sounds more like a dub issue to be honest, because none of the pokemon names are the same as the japanese, you never hear japanese pokemon names in a pokemon thread. Digimopn dub could've simplified it.
>>741117842I like the loop but it happens too fast. I dropped the 3DS one because it was just too cyclical. If I was watching stuff in the background while playing it would be more bearable. If you play as intended just staring at the game grinding and dying and grinding, it sucks.
>Digimon is a seal >Turns into a porcupine>Turns into a clown with a gunThat's why
>>741109870>every single one of these slops tell you to go to the Central CoreThe Future™ is now...
>>741109335As far as I know, Palworld is the only clone to surpass pokemon, in terms of popularity and sales.
>>741109981In what way?
>>741118068This argument is so boring, most Digimon do have a linear line if you want that, but you can easily choose to deviate if you so wish.
>>741118142Yokai Watch did it first to the point that it spooked TPC that they introduced the Rotomdex and basically overhauled the series with S&M and the anime at the time to more or less copy aspects of it. Level 5 shooting themselves in the foot, then shooting the cast on the foot, and then taking a saw to their leg is the only reason why Yokai Watch is so irrelevant now.Palworld is another one but we'll see how that works as a general brand going forward since I would argue it doesn't really have as much staying power in the long run and is more a flash in the pan for this one singular release but we'll see.
Savers is so fucking goddamn dogshit I can't understand how some morons think it is good. Everything on that show was retarded and in extreme low quality. Writing was abyssal. Art was terrible. Animation was hideous. Characters were all retarded. Digimons were all desproporcional and sometimes bigger/smaller than how they appeared in the precious episode. And the voice acting is one of worst I've seen, if not the worst one.I know Frontier had a lot of dumb flaws but at least it feel like a Digimon show, had some fun moments and it actually looks great compared to Savers.Now I know Adventures and Tamers are amazing and that Adventures 2 wasn't as great as those last two, but Savior was so bad I almost dropped the show like three times. I took a huge effort to finish it out of love for the franchise.Then I wondered if the following show was going to be great but turned out to be a try hard terrible toy commercial trying to copy tokusatsu/kamen rider and I decided to drop it before even reaching episode 10.So..yep. Digimon as an anime ends on Frontier. Everything after it? Irredeemable waste of time.>b-b-but Daimon punching...The execution is terrible, he has the IQ of a fucking monkey and every other character just enable his retardation because the show writing is abyssal.Takato>Tai>Takuya>Daisuki>>>>the protagonists that came after Frontier.
>>741109335Bacause of this:
>>741118226>most Digimon do have a linear line if you want thatYeah, but you have to have watched the anime to know said linear line, and anything that wasn't in the anime is all over the place. The reason everyone says the same thing is because it's true that it's offputting to a person who is trying to get into the series or even looks at it at a glance.
>>741118263After playing Yokai Watch, the gameplay is the issue. The battle system is so infuriating. >rng>having to do gay stylus shit>having to do gay stylus shit to free your own yokai>rng catching mechanics is even worse than pokemon
>>741118323Nope, there's usually 3 lines. In most games the top line in the linear route. Might not be true for all games, but in most, that's how you know.
>>741118275nah, daisuke is worse
>>741118068>Digimon transforms into a beautiful sex goddess!Digimon and Pokemon are equally objectively amazing. Get over it!
>>741112000>Their male dog (Terriermon) can turn into a female cat (Gatomon) which becomes a male panda (Pandamon) which then becomes a male Japanese delinquent lion (BanchoLeomon).Jesus Christ...
>>741110218>I think what also hurts Digimon is that it has "no face" there is no mon or character that represents the franchiseAre you stupid or something
>>741118442It's not. He may be awful in many things but at least he has a character and he is bearable.
>>741118485>moustacheDon't post this horrible design again or at least remove the blonde moustache.
>>741109439>turn Frontier into a sentai genre instead of a partner mon genre>the knight arc in generalGo fuck yourself.
>>741109335Crazy this thread pops up when I see a bunch of Palworld threads. Not that I’m complaining.
>>741109335Because the only good digimon game was way too obtuse for a child compaired to rock-paper-scissors.
>>741118275Saversfags are most likely a younger gen who watched Savers firstChildhood bias is pretty big, I've even seen Xros Wars kids
>>741118226Even if there's a linear line, if that linear line includes a furry with a machine gun, or a literal big tit anime girl, it's not what the mainstream wants. It will appeal to a niche fanbase but never reach mainstream appeal.
Digimon arent pets....or they are....kind of? They were never consistent with this. The vpets are pets that you can fight with but the anime they're partner mascots that can talk except they barely have personalities and in the games you assemble a team like Pokemon but the gameplay changes every game. Its all very inconsistent.Evolution lines used to be random and all over the place but they've reigned that in a lot recently in favor of variant evolutions. Ironically, Pokemon could have benefitted a lot by having lots of variants. They've been doing that recently but it would have been better to have variants of the same Pokemon than 800+ from the start especially when it became clear no one gave a shit about the newer mons.
>>741109335We have this question every week, the answer is the same: It's a disjointed franchise that never actually sat down and laid out hard rules early on.Now a days they have apparently committed to the rpg style, but they're about 25 years too late if the goal was to seriously compete.
>>741118485>beautiful sex goddessThey don't even need to be human
>>741118372That's mainly just 1 and 2, and 2 is an enormous improvement over 1 especially if you play PS over BS or FS. Even the Switch remake realized how unfair 1 was and heavily addressed its issues. 3 onward use completely different mechanics overall.>>741118439Which not everyone will realize if they're not already into the series to begin with, and they might branch out because things like the Story games want you hopping around.
>>741109335the best digimon games are bad smt clones with only the gameplay aspects of persona (compendium grinding) going for them rather than difficulty or calendar/life managemen that make those games interesting for most jrpg fansthe only other digimon games worth giving a shit about are esoteric adaptations of the actual tamagotchi devicethe best classic digimon series is a kids horror show made to advertise the card game that doesnt exist anymore and there is little consistency or continuity between themthe card game is also >bandai tcg so its relevance dropped off like a flaming turd well before the mobile version was even announced
>>741118682Okay, so the final answer here is then the mainstream does not want hyper violent machine gun monsters with guns or swords or big anime women monsters with tits. Pokémon is too scared to do that. They tried being safe horny and it worked, they had Tsareena who is a dominatrix who evolves via learning Stomp. But it's much more safe. People don't like direct designs, they like safe horny. They like it when degeneracy is slightly subtle in a children's game.
>>741111198Not even Yu-Gi-Oh could keep up with Pokèmon.
>>741118860*current card gamealso tamers has the extra fun fact that a lot of its initial broadcast in burgerland was skipped due to 9/11
>>741118854>3 onwardafter 3 they were not even translated to English, they really knew their audience by no longer even giving the west their games.>i hate this evolution i made>oh wait i can revert and pick something i like moreHow is that inferior to pokemon?
>>741118934Nothing keeps up with Pokémon.Literally nothing.Star Wars had a 20-year head start and it STILL fell behind Pokémon.
>>741118860>the card game is also >bandai tcg so its relevance dropped off like a flaming turdHyper Coliseum looks so much cooler than the new tcg. I get the sense that it "is" Digimon with the Windows 98 look of the cards. The Bandai tcg just looks like every other Japanese card game.
simplistic designs for all ages > machine gun titties on a furry reptile with latex boots and a pirate hat with a claw and a leg that is actually a jetpack umbrella that got lots of veins
Rate my team.
Pokemon always catered to autistic people hard, even using all elements that autistic people are found off. Nintendo fanbase is 95% autistic losers extremely loyal to the brand to the point of selling their souls and asses to it, perhaps only losing to Sonic fanbase(100% autism)Digimon relayed on a lot of adult themes and elements, that naturally repels autistic people(even concepts of responsibility drives them away)With the world normalizing autism instead of doing the correct thing, that is locking them in mental asylums, and the increase of autism for some mysterious reasons(vaccine or hags giving birth, pick your theory), Nintendo won a lot from it. Not mentioning how the Yakuza sabotage it's competitors constantly.(Yes, I believe Sega was sabotaged from inside to lose the console wars)
>>741109335Because it's a carbon copy of Pokemon.
>>741115802>A fucking Tyranitar should never be inside a city ever.That's literally what the plot of ZA is about. The city is getting overrun and sections have to be cordoned off because people can't just live next to packs of wild Pokemon.The stupid part is the the main cast think this is unironically a good thing.
>>741119056>they really knew their audience by no longer even giving the west their games.I mean, 1 shelfwarmed so hard to the point Five Below had rows of these things also shelfwarming on their shelves for years, 2 had low production runs including PS, and then 3 had such a low production run that a new copy is like $200 at this point. The anime was popular with the kids apparently but they half-assed that and overwhelmed them with toys that parents couldn't keep up.They're trying to bring it back again with Holy Horror Mansion but we'll se how it goes.>How is that inferior to pokemon?Because you don't get attached to the monster or its designs. It becomes an amorphous blob instead of a create you are attached to. Pokemon's advantage is that you are locked into designs you might not like because of how you liked its initial designs to the point you eventually grow to like it whereas with Digimon it's hard to keep track of what your Digimon was especially in Story games with groups you're raising, and they just feel like generic stat sheets rather than partners or friends. That only really happens in Pokemon if you get into the mentally ill comp scene or are one of those people who enjoy the Battle facilities.
>>741119202just like palworld isn't an ark clone but a carbon copy of pokemon, right?
>>741118934Yugiohs fuck up was that it tried to tell a real story. Pokemon kept ash around waaay past his relevancy which made it much easier to market.Yugioh also time jumps way too fucking much, starting with 5Ds. All the original cast have been dead for hundreds of years at this point.
>>741119239>That's literally what the plot of ZA is about.And its retarded. Realistically the city would hire trainers to ward off the wild Pokemon, which I always assumed would have been a normal profession in the Pokemon world.
>>741109335Digimon is extremely depressing show. I randomly turned on an episode the other day for a nostalgia trip and one of the characters is like "this is the neighborhood I lived in back before my parents divorced on the same day there was a terrorist bombing."Meanwhile, Pokemon is just about being a kid walking around in the forest and capturing monsters who get to be your pets. One is comfy and the other is borderline traumatizing.
>pokefags accusing others of copying shit when Pokemon and the rest of Nintendo copied Akira Toriyama's work a fucking lotFucking rats.
>>741119486>One is comfy and the other is borderline traumatizing.I bet you crossdress online while showing your butthole you pathetic sissy bitch
>>741118508I want to kiss agumon
>>741109335Bandai. You know, the company that make a product just to put it on 90% sale on Steam two weeks later because it sucks and they know it sucks. Cyber Sleuth literally would not exist if it wasn't for fan outcry. Bandai reaction to what is easily the best Digimon game they had made at the time? Machine translate it and give it the zero polish, sluggish animations if it wasn't an attack from a digimon even if it meant to be an important cutscene. Heard someone describe it as the best 7/10 game ever. It is good, extremely good in fact but my god they clearly did not give a fuck to budget it at all. It feel AA at best. Personally going to pirate every Bandai game including Xenoverse 3 because if they don't give a fuck then why should I?>>741118613Hype for Palworld 1.0. Originally pirated it but pay for it after the Terraria update as I got bored of waiting for pirate sites to update the game and/or hate redownloading the whole game just to update it.
>>741109335One was initially marketed to the west as Tamagachi for boys (Digimon) while the other one was marketed towards children period (Pokemon). Accessibility is another reason. Pokemon requires a Gameboy but from there could be played in a car, home, at school, you could actually be social with it. Could you imagine being social with one of those tiger electronics looking Digimon virtual pets?
>>741119175is the game out?
>>741119714>Could you imagine being social with one of those tiger electronics looking Digimon virtual pets?Digimon are designed to battle each other so, yeahThe problem is that Tamagotchi was already there and, in the West anyway, was popular among girls AND boys
>>741119175>those sprites I WANT THE MEDAROT GACHA HERE
>>741119545Dragon QuestCHADS....
>>741119775About 16 years ago.
>>741109335>make a product to appeal to the lowest common denominator>consoomed so violently that you can put out a non-functioning product and you’ll have legions of fanboys defend it>make a product geared towards a certain demographic that not everyone will like>is far more enjoyable and uniqueEveryone asks why digimon isn’t as popular, but the real question is if you even want digimon to be as popular
>>741120084>if you even want digimon to be as popularNo. I want the anime and the games to be good again, just this. No perfect graphics or whatever. Just an enjoyable experience.
>>741120084People want things they like to be popular, until you realise "oh, popularity ruined it".
>>741109335It was tryhard. Actually in retrospect I'm glad digimon came around because it introduced me to the concept of tryhard copycatting from a young age, and from then on I was always very quick to notice it.
Why don't digimonfags that try to fanfix the shows write fanfics? Scared I'll read your garbage and then complain when you don't make a new chapter one month? Pussies.
>>741118224Well the name for starters
>>741118068Digimons dont have set digivolution routes
>>741118508Any boomer who's never even played a video game could probably name Pikachu. I'm a full on millennial from that height of that era and I can't even tell you this dinosaurs name. In fact, I don't even know if I've ever seen it before.
Pokemon is jewish Digimon isnt
>>741120229Digimons base literally predates pokemon as the InTraining stage are the original Vpets
>>741109335Because most Digimon media either isn't good or is has zero mass appeal.
>>741120523digimon is kinda trannyishbig titty evolutions should be locked to feminine digimonthat's all i want
Ok but why is it called Pokémon and not Pokemon?
A party of digimon is way cooler than a party of pokemon. For one it feels like genuine monster taming. The digimon anime sucks because they limit characters to only one digimon instead of a party. Next digimon lacks a consistent combat system that would create addiction in autist like smogon for pokemon
>>741121000They literally are locked to feminine looking champions
>>741121000They are code, 0's and 1's, Digimon do not have gender nor sex, they are computer programs. Pokemon are physical beings where sex matters.
>>741121130doesn't make it any less gross
>>741121130Digimon are data beings not computer programs, Beatbreak has Digimon existing as data beings that can enter the internet because the internet is a human created data space. Humans didnt make digimon.
Pomnimon digivolve to...
>>741109335Its bigger than Pokémon now though
>>741114365Because Digimon is1. Older than Pokemon2. Almost nothing like pokemon
>>741119545How come pokeniggers never go apeshit at DQ Monsters?
>>741121219Humans did create the Digimon franchise in Tamers however which causes confusion about the lore...Haha...
>>741121578aesthetics. Toriyama's designs are all so goofy
>>741109335Don't know, but I like Digimon waaaaay more than Pokemon right now
>>741109335Too boy-centric. Pokemon's benefit was having a monster for everyone.
>>741121742Digimon have designs for everyone
>>741121742in gen 1 there were like 10 most pokemon were very uglythe anime and gen 2 made them a lot cuter
>>741114693What the fuck, bro!!!
>>741114660Unfortunately, they are trying to change that.
>>741122103fortunatelyyou have 20 years worth of turn based pokemon games
>>741112915she reminds me of Juliette
>>741121286...my log of shit
>>741114829>Digimon have unique story involving...ZZZZ...I just want to go on an adventure capturing Pokémon and become the ultimate Pokémon trainer.
>>741122168No, you want something else, go play Final Fantasy VII Remake.
>>741114829I hate this fucking image.It's made by someone that hasn't played Cyber Sleuth.
>>741122314The lore does get pretty wild.
>>741122501I like CS and Hacker's Memory but the maps were so shit... Hyper Dimension Neptunia tier. Maybe worse.
>>741109335>Why didn't Digimon ever get as big as Pokémon?Retarded bait thread, you know exactly why. Gen 1 sold over 30 million games.
>>741122724engagement baitotherwise digimon threads die quickly
>>741116194The "flaws" you point out is all what makes digimon awesome and uniquely different than pokemon. Since the beginning that they never wanted to be pokemon 2. They wanted to be digimon digital monsters. New pokemon games are utter garbage and the new digimon game was kino and looks beautiful. Pokemon lost and the only thing keeping it afloat is just multimedia crap and retarded subhumans.And pokemon lost again against palworld with that lawsuit lmao, total tendie annhilation. The only way they had to cope was to make a digimon hate thread
>>741122517>pokefags are so pathetic they have to rely on unpublished lore from secret files to make an argument
>>741123197Only sensible post iit
>>741123197Truth nuke
>>741122314>Gotta consoom all
>>741121219This thread was made by salty pokefags after losing to Palworld as a way to cope and seethe, they dont know a single thing about what theyre trying to criticize and come out as incredibly retarded and moronic faggots. If their series is so great why do they feel the need to make a digimon hate thread to begin with? Pokefags are the most pathetic subspecies of tendies
>>741119545Based Dragon QuestersI’m lowkey interested in thisI’ve only ever played DQ11 and DQ3 Remake.
Well, now that you’re all smuggling the hot oil, I think it’s time we get down to business.
>>741109870Tpbp
>>741124338/v/ has made this thread hundreds of times before, it has nothing to do with Palworld, stop forcing your way into the conversation you little schizo.
>>741124680To defeat the Huns!
>>741124675I hope this game is better than tbe steaming pile of crap that Monsters 3 was.I seriously hadmore fun playing brain dead DQ Treasures than Monsters 3
>>741109335What is the role of the kids in the digimon show/movies? Are they even trainers?
>>741123197>>741124338uh oh melty
>>741125254To provide sex appeal
>>741109439I genuinely want a Frontier remake
>>741109335The evolutions don't make sense.
>>741109335It did but only in Japan
>>741123197>thread's about why Digimon didn't get as big as Pokemon>I list off various reasons why people chose Pokemon over Digimon>you misread it as a list of "flaws", things wrong with Digimon, like it was an insult against Digifags, as opposed to being a list of reasons why normalfags bounced off of it and why there was never a "Digimania"Dunno if this is worth a "lmao cope" or something. I dropped out of Pokemon a while ago too.Plus, even if Digimon makes a couple games that are pretty good (I might be one of the very few people that likes DW4), almost my entire list of why normalfags never got into it still applies all the way up to today.
>>741109870Looks like shit from what is barely visible
>>741123197>Gets upset when someone gives valid reasons>brings Palworld out of nowhereeither Eric or a raging Snoy then again what's the difference?
>>741115802>A fucking Tyranitar should never be inside a city ever.Holy shit!
What are the best Digimon games? I wanna try the series
>>741118890>big anime women monsters with tits. Pokémon is too scared to do that.Dude, that's not what Pokémon is about. Are you retarded?
>>741109335the games are OK but tedious at the best of times
>>741119175Boring/10
>>741128039Titty megas are a meme, most megas look like the ultimate form of some shit
>>741109335Because the companions talk so they feel more like friends than pets.
>>741109335because Angela killed it
>>741121219>Digimon are data beings not computer programsWhat?!Data is 0/1 a.k.a a computer program.
>>741114829People post shit like this and still complain about digimon being dead lol
Digimon will never be this cool.
>>741128759lugia is the most gay legendaryat least post rayquaza
>>741128462Digimon are extradimensional entities who can only interact with our world through digital technology. Without that tech, we can't see them, hear them or touch them. The better our tech becomes, the more Digimon can interact with our world. Our brains literally can't comprehend them without using digital technology as a filter, and vice versa.
>Me>10 years old >Hadn't discovered YGO yet >Got into the Duel Masters anime/show as it aired on Saturday morning cartoon channel>Maybe Jetex? Can't remember>Grandma buys me a starter deck of the cards >Nobody to duel because nobody in the area played the TCG and I was 10 years old >YGO was 10x more popular in 2002-2003. >Dad is best player in the world trope>Son is a prodigy and must live up to dad's legend trope >English Opening song was catchy to me as a kid >Other English anime openings were way better though like Beyblade, Tokyo Mew Mew, Wink's Club, Sailor Moon, etc. Honestly English anime openings were pretty fucking catchy in the early 2000's, and then the industry completely changed. Vic Mignogna's openings were always really good, but he can actually sing, but now that he's blacklisted from the industry. They need to just find people that can sing...surely it can't be that hard? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMzWE6IEeRI
Pokemon is set in a pretty low stakes world (barring legendary Pokemon disaster stuff) and is super easy to self insert into even as just a fisherman or a gardener or some shit.
>>741109335You’re still comparing Digimon almost 30 years later to Pokemon. I think there’s a point where you have to just say Digimon did just fine against the most profitable IP in the world.
>>741109335Pokémon has the more appealing setting especially as kid. Catch em all or become the very best are goals anyone can strive for regardless of the background. On top of this the first Pokémon games were easy to access for most and the trading aspects were great.Digimon as basis is our world with a group of chosen kids that get thrown into a rather hostile alternative world and the goal to save it. I find this much harder to relate to than what Pokémon offers. The Digimon vpets never released here initially I think only knock-off tamagotchis and those were fun for some days before becoming tedious. Digimon world released very late in the EU and while its a pretty good game Pokémon already had taken off at this time.
Digimon's failure was being owned by Bandai, a company that has historically been very bad at finding talented devs to hire, and also giving their first party games like zero budget.
>>741110218Funny how I was in the Palworld thread. The fact Pokemon went along these lines included megadigivolving Pokemon means Palworld should be in the clear from Pokemon's rampant use of plagiarism. You could bring in Monster Rancher to the mix and it wont look out of place in current Pokemon or Digimon anymore
Pokemon got huge because of the Gameboy, that's all.
>>741130074MR is my favorite series but Digimon can take Gali and Joker, I won't complain.
>>741129991so like gamefreak
>>741119175Bro your Queen Chessmon?
>>741130137and trading
>>741110218>The fact that they can just change back is also a turn offI agree, but then Pokemon did the exact same thing and then people were ok with it for some retarded reason.
>>741128986Where the fuck are you getting this lore from bro?>>741129589The whole Digimon vs Pokémon thing is stupid. The only reason it even exist is because the heads of big TV corporate were trying to squeeze as much money out of kids.
PokemonDigimonYoukai WatchMonster RancherWhich is best? Which is worst?
>>741130237What Pokemon are you talking about? The moment they evolved, they stay evolved.
>>741130286maybe mega evolution
Uh, just out of curiosity, what exactly does "big" as Pokemon even mean in this context? Digimon has hundreds of games to this day. Several successful anime runs, to this day. Remakes of games and anime. Modern SEQUELS to past anime seasons. Manga adaptations and spinoffs. Movies. Merch. A card game with an active scene. Latest game was surprisngly popular in the west and started something of a momentum for the franchise. So what exactly does "big" mean? Not having two versions of the same game for every fucking release? Launching games as console launch titles that barely run and look like shit? Having rabid defenders who infantilize your slop and cry about every little thing, attacking any lookalikes with blind rage? ...some fuckass themed store in Japan? Just curious.
Early games were kinda shitass, and the first two anime series were aggressively mid, the first less so but still
>>741130286>never heard of Mega evolutionslucky
>>741128438> That picalways hated that show as a kid. It was dadaism goyslop.
>>741119327>All the original cast have been dead for hundreds of years at this point.You'd think, but Yugi's fucking bully who only ever appeared in the anime in one flashback is a character in 5Ds, he's in his 40s at most
Tamers is by far the best show, it's such an improvement to everything before or since in every way that it's actually kinda ridiculousOnly problem it has is the main villain at the end is too broken to beat so they just kind of science it away with star trek-tier nonsense
>>741109335because bandaiscamco wont give anything a budget unless it's tekken or made by fromsoft >>741127669world 1, re:digitize (decode) and world: next orderthe rest is 3 niggas in a row or worsealso chapter 91-92 of Dark Summoner to Dekiteiru because an anon asked in another thread
>>741130315You were right>>741130502Mega Evolution is a shit gimmick that started the trends in Pokémon. The only reason people like it is because it was baby's first gimmick and made people go ape shit due to letting Lucario go "Super Saiyan". Doesn't help that the anime even encourage this.
>>741130261Everything is subjective, but fuck level 5 for what they did with YW.
>>741130334It's engagement bait.
>>741121074>A party of digimon is way cooler than a party of pokemonStyle over substance.>Next digimon lacks a consistent combat system that would create addiction in autist like smogon for pokemon100%. 200% even. Something digifags wouldn't admit for some reason.
>>741130334Having a longlasting and consistent popularity.The oldest Pokemon games still generate discussions and are still worth playing just for a unique experience.Nobody plays the old Digimon games.>Having rabid defenders who infantilize your slop and cry about every little thing, attacking any lookalikes with blind rage?Attacking? Most of those lookalikes present themselves as trying to be better than Pokemon, but so far they haven't even beaten even Pokemon Red in terms of being a memorable game. Calling it attacking is a reach, just like Palworldfags trying to insert themselves in the argument.Using adaptations as your talking point also doesn't make sense, this is a video game discussion.
>>741129991Yeah Digimon is a toy franchise first than a video game one due to being owned by Bandai.
>>741109439>half of the season eps are all the same, one after the otherNope
>>741109335you can't sell big boobas to children
>>741110218>or Renamonmy diginigga
>>741131334Because Digimon games are actually experimental and have effort compared to Pokemon which is mindless brain mush. As history dictates, the mass NPCs like brain mush over genuity.
>>741131182What did they do?
>>741131989>Because Digimon games are actually experimentalNone of them are experimental.Also thinking everyone not agreeing to that as NPC is literally just another version of being braindead.
>>741109335Because nothing did as Pokemon is the biggest franchise in the world?
>>741109335Digimon was higher art than Pokemon, that is the main reason.
>>741109439Epic bait, my dude.
>>741109870Can't see shit, dude.
pokemon was a better cartoon
>>741132872Lol no.
>>741119714>Could you imagine being social with one of those tiger electronics looking Digimon virtual pets?Yes? We all played this shit because they could actually fight each other, unlike Tamagotchis. Fucking zoomers.
>>741109335the digivolve and whole digipet aspect was too over the top.Pokemon's nice and simple rat evolves into bigger rat. Lizard grows wings and becomes bigger lizard.Meanwhile the digimon stuff doesn't really seem that connected let alone when you bring up all the weird data stuff.
>>741122168you can play spin-offs if you have brain damage
>>741114329Even among the turn based games it's not like they're iterative. They change the mechanics so often
>>741109335Idk I never cared about pokemon, always thought it was a show for little kids while Digimon seemed more fun for me.It's like watching tiny monster-like dogs vs watching godzillas, angels, demons, demi-humans, what's not to like? I still haven't watched pokemon but from what I saw on the internet the fanservice component is much bigger there so I guess people who are more into attractive characters lean to pokemon while people who prefer grand monster battles are into digimon.Also Pokemon went on air 2 years before Digimon so this might be a big factor too. Idk if Digimon was partially inspired by it, I don't really see a lot of similarities except for the fact monsters are present in both shows, still they're very different.What do people like in pokemon? Genuine question.
>>741127669digimon world 1 and that's it
>>741110218> Digimon is that it has "no face"It's Agumon their eye is even the franchise logo. Renamon is mostly infamous for the furry porn, a lot of which doesn't actually have anything to do with digimon specifically.
>>741134714Who's 'we'? I grew up seeing those original Digimon commercials on television. I thought they looked cool. Never got one, never seen one in public, never heard a soul talk about one in school, summer camp, wherever. I only knew one person who cared about Digimon to some degree aside from me and he was my childhood neighbor. Face it, Digimon wasn't as big as you'd like to believe it was, even back then.
>>741136184>their*its
>>741137128Agumon isn't an object and is anthropomorphic, so their is perfectly fine to us as the pronoun.
>>741109335In a word, consistency. There was always a new pokemon game and it was always guaranteed to be a decent RPG. Digimon is so all over the place going from tamagotchi lite to mystery dungeon to more standard RPG to SMT ripoff all ranging from fun to jank to dire. Also, putting -mon at the end of every name is gay.
Digital Card Battle was fun
>>741109335i like playing against other players and Digimon games rarely offer this. Also too many digimon are literally just people in cosplay, it is the lamest, laziest shit ever.
>>741109439HOLY BASED!!!!!!
I like digimon rumble arena 2.
>>741137235Agumon isn't human and is genderless, so "it" is most appropriate as a pronoun.
>>741110749no tradingnot on gameboydoesn't appeal to girls
>>741138275Agumon is a person so "they" is the most appropriate pronoun.
>>741112915i found her design way too human. other humanmons have more clearly inhuman elements, but this really just feels like a brown girl in costume and not even a particularly elaborate or otherworldly like an angemon or sakuyamon.
who fucking cares, agumon is clearly a male
>>741109335Its games and merchandising weren't nearly as appealing.The only thing Digimon had was a better anime.
>the only thingmore like the most important thing
>>741140081Clearly not when it comes about sales and becoming the biggest franchise ever created
>>741109335>Digimon are people but look like and are used as pets, less comfy that just having your regular-ass hamster do cool magic.>"mon" is a retarded naming convention that make it hard for kid to remember shit. No, I don't care there is a lore reason for it.>Designs are all over the place. Anything can be a digimon, feel more like a trashcan than an actual world. No, I don't care there is a lore reason for it.>First episode has more characters than jew died in the holocaust, make it really fucking hard to get attached compared to Pokémon first episode that's 99% just Ash and asshole-fat-Pikachu>PS1 game was... flawed-jewel-tier (finished it twice, but still) compared to Pokémon's first game being easily in the top 5 of its console
>>741139732Only humans are people.
>>741140370>No, I don't care there is a lore reason for it.What's the lore reason for the -mon naming convention? I never knew there was one.
>>741119327>Pokemon kept ash around waaay past his relevancy which made it much easier to market.They kept Ash around for so long because the anime producer used him as a self insert, it had nothing to do with marketing.
>>741116194>"music isn't as catchy or iconic"Are you fucking high? If you played Butterfly in the smackdab middle of Thailand people would still recognize it.>Digimon as a whole leaned further into the "anime vibes" compared to Pokemon, at a time when anime was still pretty nichePokemon was as anime as it gets lmao. And one of the main inspirations for Digimon was western comics, Watanabe said so himself.What the hell is this dude saying?
>>741140696File extension. Indicating it's a monster file data.First part of the name is compacted, kinda like old DOS-era files tended to be due to character limits.It's not Agumon, it's Agu.mon.
>>741109439The only good thing about Frontiers is the shotas
>>741140545Within the context of the real world, you wouldn't call Liara from Mass Effect an "It" simply because she's a non-human alien for example.
>>741140975I liked Fairymon. Her lingerie awakened something within me.
Because it's goofy shit with no coherence
>>741141119https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpq2q0qf2e8It might have been goofy and low budget, but it had Šóul
>>741140870This is also headcanon and never stated In universe there is no reason given why they all sound the same.
>try to play new pokemon game>totally on rails bullshit for 5 year olds (what the fuck happened since black and white 2?)>try to play new digimon game>completely generic jrpg with 'content' locked behind mindnumbing grinding>just gonna play monster crown instead for my monster tamer fix
>>741141016Liara is female, not genderless.
>>741109439No.
>>741141374Monster Crown was wholly mediocre. Thankfully a code on /vp/ saved me from spending real money on it.
>>741109335all their games were shit, so you only had anime to consume, and some of that anime was really hit or miss.
>>741141312>there is no actual justification for the stupid naming conventionThat make it worse tho.
>>741141232Because some autistic man directed the series
>>741141490I agreeI like the series but know the names suck.
>>741141507Pokemon had a man like that too
>>741141609What even was his deal with Lugia
>>741141713He made it as a girl and fags kept trying to make it a man which he disliked
>>741141382Liara's race is genderless, their concept of gender is a result of mingling with other species.
>>741118226>This argument is so boring, most Digimon do have a linear line if you want that, but you can easily choose to deviate if you so wish.That's a fucking lie, all digimons inevitably become anime women or terminators with laser guns or eldritch abominations. There is literally no exception.
>>741141881yeaha "girl" with a male voice xDdd
>>741141713Lugia is supposed to be female (she has a fucking child in an episode), and the dude insisted Lugia's design was 'motherly'Then they made the pokemon have a male voice actor and he lost his shit.
>>741118439>Nope, there's usually 3 lines. In most games the top line in the linear route.Nigga, I played DW1, and watched like 2 random episode of the anime, which is more than the average person who gave the series a try.Bipedal chibi T-Rex evolve into Centaurs.Bipedal chibi T-Rex WITH A FUR CAP evolve into Snot elementals.That's how it effectively is.
>>741142194>>Lugia is supposed to be female (she has a fucking child in an episode)>Dads can't have childrenInteresting biology.
>>741142194>>741141609what a dumb sperg he was
>>741142040
>>741142275You rarely see children running around with their fathers in the animal kingdom, you often see the mothers caring for them.Pretty sure they say she's the mother in the episode too.
>>741142041You see the problem then. They fucked it up
>>741142304You proved my point. Metal claws, metal head, random The Thing styled tail. It's nonsense.
>>741142304They only bring this guy out to be a jobber to 'real' megas.
>>741111051Or maybe you're just autistic.
>>741142040Literally literally or literally "literally"?
>>741142423>Eldritch abominationProving my point more.
>>741142407It's a gryphon, it has a snake tail because gryphons are a type of chimera which are classically depicted as having snake heads as tails.
>>741142454That says a lot about you.
>>741142454It's a big fish anon Do you consider oarfish eldritch
>>741109335Too high IQ plot compared to babypokemonOnly can have one buddy instead of six
>>741142489Sexo
>>741142569Why yes, she is.
>>741142454>>741142504She's a sea slug ackshully
>>741142321the design does not look feminine at allhe fucked up too
>>741142707Sex slug
>>741109335The fumbled by not making a GB or GBA game in the 90s or early 2000s when the hype existed.Now pokemon (much like Disney) is a hollow company depending entirely on nostalgic 30+ year olds and they missed their chance at making an alternative.
>>741109335there's maybe like a handful of pokemon that are bigger than a regular ass greymon, pokemon in general are small as fuck
>>741109335Few things ever get as big as Pokemon. I'd say Digimon had a good amount of success for what it is. Pokemon was the first of its kind to break containment and enter the west, so it had that first mover advantage that Digimon never had. Digimon's show also has a bit more complexity and nuance over Pokemon's monster of the week format. It makes for a more meaningful show, but also makes it harder to follow. I've never played the TGC so I have no comments on that.
>>741119065Zommers can't comprehend pokemania. The closest thing they had was artifical hypeshit like the MCU, and they don't come anywhere close.There will never be anything like Pokemon again, that's why it sucks so much to see how hard TPC dropped the ball.
>>741119193>I believe Sega was sabotaged from inside to lose the console warsReleasing a new console every 2-3 years certainly didn't help.
>>741143146>pokemon games in general have their height & weight data written by someone who has no idea how numbers workftfyThe anime generally has sizes where you expect them to be.
>>741119193Pokemon's fanbase is way more autistic than Sonic's, if only by sheer volume.
>>741143471insane delusional sentence to write and solve a gatcha for
I always thought pokemon was toddler shit for manchildren and actual toddlers but the key to Pokemon's success is the fact that the holders of the IP just threw money into it like crazy >>741111198Retards ITT bitching about evolution lines have no idea what they are talking aboutYou had Nintendo making the same games, some jap studio making the same anime ad infinitum which resulted in a shitload of other tertiary companies licensing your product because consistency was keyThe Digimon IP was mismanaged heavily in the late 2000s and after Frontiers the anime just went downhill for absolutely no reason, same for the games after the PS2 and even the PS1/PS2 era games suffered from not being consistent with each otherAlso Bandai had major fuck ups, do you recall a good digimon game showing up during the PS3/360 era at all?? They only started making good videogames after Cyber Sleuth and World Order came outAdventure and Tamers are one of the best shows in their genre (and yes a shit ton better than the Pokemon anime will ever hope to be) because the producers never once underestimated the intelligence of the children who liked watching Digimon and it's because of Adventure that the IP blew up the way it did back in the early 2000s
>>741109870Ban all AI indians
>>741119193>Nintendo fanbase is 95% autistic losers extremely loyal to the brandExcept Palworld proved that a good half of the old fanbase will jump ship without hesitation if someone actually make a vaguely worthwhile alternative.
>>741143510Most people grew out of Sonic, and there aren't nearly as many kids or even young adults exposed to the worst of it compared to millennials who were exposed to peak edgeslop in the mid-2000s.Pokemon games have been roughly consistent in what they provided, so there's a much higher attachment rate between releases combined with bringing in a new generation of kids with each game. It being more socially acceptable and even maybe "cool" will make little autists believe they have a go-ahead to allow Pokemon to shape their entire personality.
>>741143471Pokemon is the mainstreamest of all fandom, by sheer volume.It's de-facto defining what's normietude and thus can't be autistic.
>ultimate is the highest level digimon!>actually there's another level called mega>actually, there are tiers in mega, some mega just can't compete with higher tier mega>actually there's another tier above that high tier mega, but don't worry it's reserved for plot important and last boss digimons!
>>741130797>Yugi's fucking bully who only ever appeared in the anime in one flashback>He didn't watch season 0
>>741143752I think you have a weird definition for the word autism that does not necessarily apply but I'm not gonna argue over the semantics of autism so whatever
>>741143946Mainstream doesn't mean it's exempt from having weirdos fixate upon it. Don't believe me? Check /vp/
I never enjoyed the digital isekai setting. It makes the whole world and creatures feel fake (even if they actually aren't)I don't really like the way they evolve.It feels a bit more generic since it's just bit bad evil monster villain
>>741144043I dont see the problem
>>741110315>I have no idea who Renamon isThat means this is your first day on the Internet.
>>741116170The problem with Alysion is that the Digimon card game inherently sucks. And it will never gain a casual audience with how overcomplicated it is to begin with.
>>741144765It was fun initially like most card games, but if Alysion just mirrors the modern game meta then it'll be DOA, yes.
>>741144320>Check [any part of 4chan talking about anything]We have weirdo(s?) fixate sexually upon floor tile patterns.We are the last thing that should be used to determine if something bring in weirdos or not.
>>741144765No the problem is that retarded memory system>Hurr its now the opponents turn >Hurr Tamer cards that cheat you memory>Hurr gotta choke the opponent to ensure their turn ends the moment they play anythingFucking hell card games are all about you spamming cards but memory is a fuck you to the action economy
>>741110315I have never played a game that included Renamon, nor watched any anime episode where she appear.Yet I still know who the fuck she is, and what all possible shapes her butthole can have.Like seriously, that bitch is hard to dodge on Rule34 sites.
>>741145485Pokemon is popular enough that it got its own board, and that board is exclusively populated by deranged retards.
>>741145617She's more a furry porn character than a Digimon character She's not relevant outside Tamers
>>741145636>that board is exclusively populated by deranged retards... as opposed to which board?
>>741143241>The closest thing they had waspokemon go
>>741146127Having played pokémon go extensively at the beginning, it was nearly entirely 30-40-ish people being in the parks and running around when a big one spawned.
>>741145617>that bitch is hard to dodge on Rule34 sites.Nigga you're confusing porn for reality.
>>741146338Zenithposters are the dimmest people on this website.
>>741146338
Pokemon is easy to understand and straight forward, these magic creatures are your friends / pets and they do cool fights in the real world where their just part of the normal every day life.Digimon is a bunch of digital world isekai stuff without too much consitancy and they have more personality beyond being these toy like pet monsters that just repeat your name.One is easier to market and more autism friendly.
>>741146390>ZenithWho?>>741146416What a handsome guy
>>741146467>consitancywhat is that
>>741130184You aren't wrong, but until the 5th gen, Gamefreak made good mainline Pokemon games and made side games that were just as great or had other devs do the same in that period. It wasn't until post 2014 or so that the Pokemon games became really bad.
>>741146338>porn isn't real>anime/vidya isCareful, that's how you end up with a Numemon tulpa you can't get rid of.
>>741147295>that tonguewould
>>741147295>Evolves into Monzaemon and then MinervamonSounds okay to me.
>>741109870If this had been Digimon Survive then it would have sold billions and saved Digimon
>>741147597i'm sick and tired of taichi and his not friends
>>741147295 renamon is not a mascot of the franchise, you'd only think that because of porn. Renamon or its evolutions have never ranked high in polls
>>741146467Only Fairies are magic bro
digimon are way cooler than pokemon. i wish we lived in a world where digimon became more popular
The anime was decent, but the games were on consoles no child had.
Ps1 era was perfectly fine for people wanting monster raising game and not a monster battler.DW1 was also amazing exploration wise.Then they made a budget mystery dungeon/pokemon ripoff( dw3 story wise) that alienated a lot of people.The card game was pretty good as well.The ps2 era sucke dballs and psp onyl good game was budget dw1.Modern era digimon games are, rough. CS is just a visual novel with too easy difficulty. Next order is dw1 but with TWO PARTNERS NOW!!!It doesn't work.
>>741146127>pokemon goThat was 99% boomerlennials trying to relive their childhood.
>>741151429next order suffers from being made for the vita (CS kinda got around it due to its smaller scope)I want to see a proper console digimon world game again
I tested out the Digimon Story Time Stranger demo. ln my case it's 60€ (ca. $70) without DLCs. Steam claims it's reduced by 40% from its actual price of 100€ (ca. $116) without DLCs but according to this website the highest price it ever had were 70€ (ca. $81): https://steamdb.info/app/1984270/100€ for that would be really ridiculous.
>>741152468Now I see it but it seems that at least for that game steam exchanges euros to us dollar 1:1. Instead of $60 I would have to pay $70 for it.
Digimon would be in a better place if all their focus was put into refining the World formula.Instead they wasted time making those turn based rpgs that have never not played like a retarded version of Pokemon.Digifags unironically should be more bitter about Palworld than Pokefags. That is a game formula that would have fit Digimon magnificently but alas.
>>741146127Pokemon Go(y) is not even a fraction of the hype Pokemania was, braindead zoomers like you literally cannot comprehend
Digimon didn't have Ken Sugimori's art style.
>>741152856it is the same thing, you're just nostalgia blind
>>741144043there are dogshit ultimates and especially champions too though
>>741129287Dual Masters only had one thing going for it
>>741153169Built like a twig, where is the Architect to save us.
>>741152940God Charizard in general is such an amazing designNot a single bit of it is overdesigned or superfluous, it instantly conveys exactly everything it's aboutCool, but without being unapproachable so kids can dream easily of the "what if I had a charizard"
>>741153605Based.
what if charizard fucked me?unf
>>741109439>same problem as Adventure and Zero Two where only two members of the team get their final evolutions>rest of the team has to lend their powers to achieve this, making them useless for most of the final arc
>>741110814ActuallyNow we have a dinosaur anime girl with tits(although she has more ass than tits)
I've never watched or played anything digimon related but because of this thread I decided to check out Digimon World for the PS1.This game makes no sense, how are you supposed to play this? Am I supposed to be doing something during the battles and I just don't know what? Where am I supposed to get more food? Should I worry about how much time has passed?
>>741154848>Where am I supposed to get more food?Food farm and by finding mushrooms while walking around.>Should I worry about how much time has passed?Only insofar your digimon has a limited lifespan.
>>741110218The internet is filled with porn and video games have lots of girls with huge tits. It makes sense that digital monstees have a lot anime girls with tits and the anthro furries also make sense with how many furry bullshit there is out there.
>>741152940Digimon didn't have an art style at all, and that was its major issue.Every fight looked like it was a cheap crossover episode between vastly different anime.
>>741112915Please cheer for her, she wont win another fight until her mega episode
>>741128759>grading video games
>>741146127The Pokémon Go hype was maybe 1-2% of Pokémania and I am not exaggerating
>>741154914>Food farm and by finding mushrooms while walking around.So it's just the 3 daily meats and then after that I only get what I can find in the forest?>Only insofar your digimon has a limited lifespan.You're telling me this little bastard can die of old age?
>>741155881>You're telling me this little bastard can die of old age?Not can. Will.And you better get the stats for it to evolve into something good otherwise it'll turn into a slime after a while.It's one of those old games where part of the process is a lot of trial and error and learning or intuiting how things work.Perfect for a 10 year old that has all the time in the world.
>>741155825Pokemon Go was even mentioned during the 2016 election campaign. It was more short lived as pokemania and people forgot it faster but it was a huge thing.
>>741109335Digimon rapSeriouslyAlso nothing is as big as Pokémon, like not even Disney or cape slop
>>741110420>T. Rapist of 6 year old children
>>741156517
>>741156691Why are women in digimon so friendly to other women?
honosexuality is gross
>>741154848>Am I supposed to be doing something during the battles and I just don't know what?In order to give specific commands to your mons you have to train your brain Stat in the gymYou are still in an activo roll regardless of your brain Stat as you control item slam and finisher attacks.The game works on an invisible atp so as soon as you get the defense command shit gets way more active, ideally you want to block every attack and attack after every opening to stun lock the opp
>>741154848>Am I supposed to be doing something during the battlesDuring early game all you can really do is throw battle items, usually small recoveries and MP floppies. Also when the Finish gauge is full, press square and when your mon glows mash R1 and L1 to make it stronger. Once you get more techs and a higher Brains stat, you'll unlock new battle orders that change your mon's behavior.>Where am I supposed to get more food?You get meat from the farm every day, then you pick up mushrooms in the nearby areas. Until you recruit someone who sells food.>Should I worry about how much time has passed?Your mon will evolve over time. There are some things that can only be encountered at certain times of day, or certain days of the month.
>>741109335The designs don't have the same universal appeal that Pokemon have, particularly Gen 1 compared to Adventure-era Digimon. Along with that while their anime was good the games simply didn't appeal as much as the Pokemon games. Furthermore, Pokemon was created with the idea of childhood bugcatching as an inspiration. It's far easier to wrap your head around than a Digital World with Digital Monsters.
>>741154848> Am I supposed to be doing something during the battles and I just don't know what?No. Just equip your best/fatest attack, remove anything else, and let the mon fight by himself.>Where am I supposed to get more food?Recruiting specific mons. Get a guide and speedrun that part, food is an utter pain.>Should I worry about how much time has passed?To finish the game, no.To not be constantly stuck in training with a weak mon because the previous one died having accomplished nothing, yes.>how are you supposed to play this?With an evolution guide, because the way it work is retarded.
>>741158417>Adventure-eraNigga, it's rule of cool era of Digimon, you have Def the better designs of Digimon>why isn't as popularSimple. It is Pokémon, literally more popular than the god damn Bible, nothing can beat Pokémon regardless of how good it is.That's not to say Digimon isn't big, it is huge on Asia and latman, but in USA it got seriously fucked by the English dub>>741158698>With an evolution guide, because the way it work is retarded.Hit certain stats+weight+care mistake+bonus condition (usually happiness, discipline, tech, battles or have certain mons)Get 3/4 of these. Done
>>741155459i think she's neato enough.
>>741159426>Nigga, it's rule of cool era of Digimon, you have Def the better designs of DigimonI said 'universal' appeal. Most Gen 1 pokemon can look cute, cool, weird, funny depending on context. As such they hold a universal appeal. Comparatively Digimon tend to specialise. One Digimon will not necessarily appeal to multiple different tastes. You also have to consider the idea of 'friend shaped' designs. A Charizard is a fire-breathing winged lizard. It should be scary. Instead it looks like a companion. Comparatively a Greymon generally just looks scary without context. It's a giant horned dinosaur.
>>741109439fippy bippyluv my sentaiI will not apologize
>>741138275There are multiple Agumon
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>>741121286Pomegamon!
>>741144043I still don't see the argument why adding new things and progressing established universe is bad.
>>741159426>>Get 3/4 of these. Done>Weight you have 0 power over as a beginner, so it's only low-weight evolution that are possible until you get most of the food chain recruited.>Half of all bonus conditions are effectively locked away until the mid-late game.>Care mistakes are not a straight score so without knowing what you are doing not doing mistakes is the mistake.>Stats are pretty trivial which make it *another* noob trap because anyone without a guide will assume that's the main (if not sole) driver for getting good evolution.Is it trivially easy to get your favorite mon when you know the exact recipe? Yes.Will you get Numemon 99.999999% of the time if you "just play the game well"? Also yes.
>>741162312'cause that's not progressing your universe, that's just retconning shit to keep the stakes constantly increasing.See World of Warcraft's lore for a well-known example of what happen when you don't execute a writer once in a while to keep the writing team on their toes.
>>741109335>Franchise almost on the brink of ruin >Make a movie only about the digimon with no humans involved and in a gritty dark setting where people actually die>It saves your entire company >Never make anything like it ever againDigimon deserves to lose honestly
Literally nothing is as big as Pokemon.
Digimon isn't anywhere near as cohesive and consistent as a brand and by the time it went global, Pokemon was already entrenched enough that any other monster collection series got accused of being a ripoff
>>741163941>any other monster collection series got accused of being a ripoffAnd the solution to this is the same than to racism and antisemitism: you just need to learn to say "Yes, and I'm proud of it".
>>741112000the reason why online digimon fans stick to the jp names is because Bamco is hideously inconsistent about how to localize the names. They've changed their minds on Omni/Omegamon multiple times and in Time Stranger for some dumb reason they decided to change Ranamon's spelling despite getting it right the first time
>>741121578Because DQ did the monster collection RPG first, they'd have no ground to stand on
for me, its this guy
>>741162020>FuhrerAgumon is still real
>>741148898More popular means more retards and dumbed down gamesLook what happened when One Piece finally became popular in the west
>>741165216It's still incredibly dumb to follow Japanese terms when no one but a very specific niche subset of the fanbase does this as all you do is confuse people trying to get into the fandom and lead to terms being used they don't grasp or aren't used outside of the subbed anime in the west. Again, it's like using Japanese Pokemon names and move names which only extremely idiotic subbers do since it confuses everyone. The Ultimate form not being Ultimate is a great example of this. Even Yokai Watch subbers swapped to the localized names from what I recall, and all modern translation patches use the translated names.Sure, you have the stupid Greymon issue where It's Guremon and not Greymon so they have to make a note in the TCG for that, but overall it's just a dumb thing to do in the long run.
>>741163825if you get rid of the merch pokemon barely makes any money fucking mario games make double the amount that pokemon games make
>>741163825>over half of pokemon's revelue is from merch alonei'm not sure this makes me feel better because that means the videogames are accepted as bad, or worse because the company is kept afloat because of retards buying eevee plushies
>>741109335Because of many factors>digimon games were never stellar. they're always solid but end up undermined by preventable flaws (digimon world 1 was cryptic and had game-breaking glitches on most PAL versions, digimon world 2 was slow as molasseshad the stupid level caps+forced DNA without catchup EXP, digimon world 3 had a gorillion random encounters and heaps of backtracking, etc.)>upper deck entertainment torpedoed the card game. bandai tried to take over, but the ensuing hiatus after the 2nd booster killed all momentum>bandai failed to capitalize on digimon's golden years. a good chunk of games released at the time are stuck on the wonderswan, which is JP-only>digimon frontier shit the bed real bad>nintendo yakuza murdered gunpei yokoi in cold blood to stop the wonderswan from taking off>bandai kept fucking up the branding and released completely different games under the digimon world subtitle. JP branch wised up in the DS era. unfortunately, the western branch didn't>HUGE game drought in the west during the PSP era. west missed out on 2 digimon story RPGs, digimon adventure (PSP), re: digitize (and its enhanced port, decode). it wasn't until cyber sleuth that the west got a decent digimon game againThat's not even half of it
>>741169002dog
>>741169172I have a soft spot for ridermonscan't wait for it to happen in time stranger
>>741109335Pokemon created a world everyone wanted to live in. Digimon was too edgy.
>>741170542>flooding both the palworld and digimon threadpoor tendies can't catch a break
>>741109335From an anime point, WHY they were wearing gloves? Gloves in animations was introduced during the black and white tv era to make Mickey Mouse hands visible since he was totally black. Don't get me wrong I love the digimon anime but I never understood this stylistic choice.
>>741170035>>741170542>>741170612>still can't hug or pet them>still can't feed them>still can't sleep with themPalworld won
>>741170035
>>741170656because their hands and feet are comically huge and the gloves help obscure that
>>741109870I am sick and tired of this overdetailed model with masterpiece adjectives times 100 baked in
>>741109870>resident evil-esque survival game>your digimon can fight, but if it takes too much damage, it reverts and you're left defenseless>you can't just go with your ultimate or mega out constantly because it's slow and attacks use up too much energy (ammo equivalent), and some spots are too tight>you also can't spam evos because the noise attracts nearby enemies and/or may draw the attentino of the main boss (think of nemesis)>quest is about venturing into an abandoned lab to stop the release of a virus that will infect yggdrasil and spell doom for the digital world. make the villain dark gennai or something>enemies are husks of digimon decayed tissue and creepy purple veins sprouting from their bodies. kind of as creepy as erasers from lost evolutionyou rike?
>>741163825Doesn't mean it's a good thing. You people always confuse commercial success with being "good". All this profit doesn't necessarily result in a better product.
>>741118710>Digimon arent pets....or they are....kind of?I still have no idea wtf they are even after watching kizunaare they just digital pets or are they just Fairly oddparents that just disappear the moment the teenager turns 18 ?
hey I want to make a monclone but i can't design mons! Any advice?
>>741109335Not enough Izumi porn.
>>741174147lots of anons in vp are making fakemons in rom hack threadsyou could ask them
>>741174147Why do you want to make a monster catching game if you don't like designing monsters?
>>741174540i'm just not good at>>741174465thanks, I will take a look!
I will always adore the beetle shell helmet on Greymon
>>741120523Pokemon is actually the most chud series ever invented.>The entire premise is basically conspicuous consumption mixed with dogfighting.>Nietzcheian ethic of master morality--one proves oneself by "catching them all.">Violence is the solution to every problem>The villains are all trannies, lesbians, or thinly-veiled Jews.>Not a single character is black.
>>741176574Counterpoint>evolution is real and observable
>>741176653Not much of a counterpoint, as this provides the basis of the social Darwinist system that Pokemon promotes. Survival of the fittest is the only law in the world of Pokemon.Plus their "evolutions" are closer to metamorphoses than Darwinistic evolution (just look at, uh, the one that turns from a caterpillar into a butterfly) and would be in principle consistent with a creationist narrative. We are in no danger of Pikachu evolving into a sentient being (I hope).
>>741111051You just HAD to be different…..
>>741177551Uh no, retard. The chud argument is that evolution doesn't turn lifeforms into distinct lifeforms which is the opposite of Pokemon style evolution. You're dumb. Take the L.
>>741176574>>Not a single character is black.anon...they shouldn't have folded desu
>>741109335Bad games are the actual answer.
>>741110218This is a good view. Pokemon always had that biology/ecology backbone to create a living fantasy world. People's favorite Pokemon is just like having a favorite animal in the real world. Meanwhile its imitators just throw shit at the wall. Monster Rancher is another one that had no consistency.
>>741178147pokemon proves games and their quality (or lack thereof) has nothing to do with the IP's successsee: >>741163825
>>741109870>AI slop>Adventure 1 panderingYou're not a real fan.
>>741176574>Not a single character is black.That changed with the Unova games (Black, Whitie, Black 2, White 2) but it wasn't that noticeable. It changed a lot with Kalos and was there noticeable. Kalos is very woke.
>>741177551>Survival of the fittestThat's not what evolution is about you mongoloid. The best-adapted can also be the very first to die and the worst-adapted can be the ones who end up surviving.Go study some fucking biology.
>>741178521Average born and bred Parisian.
>>741109335Because digimon is a bit of a schizo pile of content and has a lot of split fanbases due to the schizophrenic nature of the series.Pokemon stuck to a fucking formula on almost all its content for nearly its entire existence and only recently has it been trying to really change up the formula. Pokemon's fanbase is fairly uniform all things considered.
>>741179068>split fanbasesyou pulled that out of your assyou have the story RPGs (turn-based) and digimon world (the ones where you raise a pet and go on adventures). then there's the occasional spin-off (e.g. survive)>Pokemon stuck to a fucking formulaand that's what got everyone to call it "rehash: the game". congrats>only recently has it been trying to really change up the formulaand all poketards shat on GF for both PLA and z-apokemon's fucked in that regard. worst of all, they refuse to optimize their standard formula (e.g. they STILL display all stat ups and downs, weather effects, recoil, leftovers, etc. in separate textboxes). how can you manage to be clunkier than dragon quest?
I love Pokémon so much it's unreal, bros.
>>741178413Monster Rancher kinda sits in the middle in that monsters are kinda all over the place and include one anime booby girl in the form of Pixie, but there's no evolution and the variants all come from crossbreeding. Digimon's random bullshit go and Pokemon's vague biology structure.
I've been playing dawn/dusk with the QoL stuff from the randomizer tool and it's been a lot of fun
>>741179979then feel free to go to your own slopeater containment board, cultist
>>741181017I was having a good time with that game using Twiilightmenu, but my save was randomly deleted one day and I never went back.
>>741181017there's a randomizer for dawn/dusk? neat, might be worth checking out one day when i'm in the mood to deal with its grindiness
>>741182151Boy do I have good news for youThe randomizer also has options to ease the grindhttps://github.com/joaomlsantos/DWDDRandomizer>>741181463oh man I'm playing it on twilight menu right now
>>74110943901 and Tamers are the best. 02 and Frontiers are very hit or miss.
Unironically it's because Pokemon has by a far margin, the most memorable LOLIS.
>>741184862they look like teensnot loli enoughNow Ruki, that is a sexy loli
>>741170748I think it's funny pocket pairs designated shill pals all flopped, and the literal who early game filler boss is what ended up being popular.
>>741109335Digimon is a niche series and Pokemon has widespread appeal. If you look at the anime series, Digimon was a series that always had stakes and tension while Pokemon was a slice-of-life masquerading as an adventure story. One is going to appeal to almost everyone while the other is (for the most part) what you'd consider a series biased towards boys and men.>>741109870The benefit of this is that they can do whatever the fuck they want with their games moving forward while Pokemon is bogged down with decades of expectations, to the point that they're puppeteering a dead horse at this point.
>>741109335Most of this show is on hulu. I only have Crunchyroll
>>741186084Sail the seas
Did Time Stranger get that performance mode patch yet?
The most recognizable Digimon does look like a Pokémon.
>>741109335I hate that i was brainwashed into thinking Digimon was a mediocre Pokemon ripoff as a kid. Now as an adult i've watched the first four seasons of the anime and played the shit out of the first Digimon World games plus Cyber Sleuth, while i barely think of Pokémon now outside the porn.
>>741187408The one on the right looks like a generic fire lizard enemy from a fantasy series, the one on the left looks like a normal lizard enemy from a different fantasy series
>>741185512>he says when they deliberately gave chillet "the look"they knew full well what they were doing
>>741116194>which led to a lot of normalfags getting confused when their cute plant monster becomes a fuckhuge punching cactus, then becomes a half-naked fairy, or their cat becomes a completely human angelIt was doomed from the start...
>>741187408i want to kiss them both
>>741116194>>Digimon actively avoids the "it just gets bigger" thing, which led to a lot of normalfags getting confused when their cute plant monster becomes a fuckhuge punching cactusthat wasn't the issueback in the adventure days people wanted animemons. the games HARDLY gave them to you>DW1 had agumon->metalgreymon, but gabumon would usually evolve into anything but garurumon (centarumon, tyranomon, monochromon)>DW2 gave you agumon->wargreymon, but gabumon would evolve into icemon and then meteormon. piyomon would get you aidramon, gomamon would evolve into tortamon, etc.imagine the kids' disappointmentalso, DW2 never made it to europe. they got no games until Fronter was about to begin airing (2003)>music isn't as catchy or iconicthe anime alone has a ton of memorable tracks (butterfly, brave heart, target, break up, beat hit, biggest dreamer, evo, card slash, etc.). it's a shame that burgers were robbed of the opportunity to listen to them game OST has plenty of iconic tunes as well. DW1's file city and story battle themes, DW2's first boss theme, DW3's asuka city, boss theme, city leader theme, to name a few examples>>Digimon as a whole leaned further into the "anime vibes" compared to Pokemonmore like digimon media had basically nothing to do with the games unlike pokemon>>quite a lot of people I knew got really autistic about the whole "Digivolving up AND down" thing.yes, everyone hated the padding in DW2 with the stupid DNA system. DW1 being cryptic didn't help things either, plus it had a huge glitch (ogremon fortress) in non-english pal versions of the gamedigimon has always had the potential. unfortunately, it was never realized owing to fuckups
>>741109439>Frontier >Let's given the main two chracters not one, but two, but three digivelotions over everyone else to the point they can't even help.Nah fuck off.
>>741191806they originally planned to give everyone the same amount of evos, but things got a bit complicated in the middle. just like in adventure 02 (sylphimon->valkyrimon, shakkoumon->vikemon)
>>741109335They didn't invent gammamon early enough
>>741165632youre alright
>>741109335There wasn't a collecting aspect to digimon like there was with pokemon. The catchphrase for pokemon was to catch them all, whether that's cards, toys, or all the mons in the games with trading.
>>741109439This except Tamers but OG Adventure is still good.
>>741110420Is that a boy or a girl?
>>741194947it's data
>>741194947
>>741194947it's a boy
>>741194902Yeah, i'm not watching this pedo shit.
>>741196004your loss owo
>>741196004Ok Lacari
>>741136184Technically it's the eye of a bunch of early Digimon
>>741143393Sand, is that you?
>>741109335Angewomon is my wife
>>741109870>Focus T
Would have been cool if Paladin mode was a mode change, but I see no reason to give up an excellent neutral Digimon for yet another light-vaccine.
>>741109335Felt more like a discount Pokemon very quickly.It's not very consistent and the games were just not good for some time.Back then it was kinda interesting and neat but nowadays it feels like something only boomers care about.
>>741146127>>741152941>>741156082pokemania was insane. everything everywhere was pokemon. stores of any kind were stocked with pokemon merch. snacks, school supplies, gadgets, toys, marbles, you name it. there was a pokemon branded version of LITERALLY ANYTHING. there were pokemon dedicated stores and any store of any kind would have some pokemon merch.you would watch the cartoon on tv, then play the game with your friends at school and if you wanted more the cards were there.the game sold over 30 million copies. and that was the 90s, back when selling 1 million made you a titanic blockbuster. no other game in the series has cracked that number yet. it was a magical game, other gb games simply did not have the insane scope and ambition pokemon red and blue had.pokemon was completely inescapable.pokemon go was a blip comparatively, it was massively popular and reignited the franchise after the ember was going out, but it's not even comparable. pokemom go was "simply" an insanely popular game, original pokemania felt like a society revolution.
>>741196826Is this a woman cosplaying as a Digimon?
I like Digimon games more than Pokemon games right now
>>741197006Same. I thank Pokemon for shooting itself in the feet so Digimon can gain more traction.
>>741194902Here, don't rely on Tiktok.
agumon is so cute!
>>741174263i am watching frontier with a friend who's completely blind (we are watching the series in order) and he laughed so fucking hard when she managed to lose her introduction fight and then lose her digispirit a few episodes later.
>>741197232That shit floored me when I watched it recently. They did her dirty, man.
>>741197124i hate this designthe face ruins it
>>741197124Ty, was surprised how hard it was to find these sequences online
>>741197346
>>741197281frontier in general was so weird, when it's good it's a really fun series but it's also so frustrating. why the fuck only takuya and koji get any evos? even when they have the animal spirits the others barely ever evolve past champion level anyway, i think bolgmon and shutumon appear like 5 times total between them
>>741109335I guess being the butt of "pokemon at home:" joke is what killed it's any potential in western markethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7fGdB3JGEw
>>741109335you know why
>>741197281Anyone have a gif/webm where she attacks with her butt?
>>741198512Know the episode and rough timeframe? I can make it if you know those.
>>741199067I think it's from the movie Digimon Frontier: Island of Lost Digimon, where she's fighting Murmukusmon.
