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Comfy hut in the woods edition
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are chapters 5 and 6 short? kinda feeling done with the game after meeting xardas and I don't feel like I have another 10 hours in me
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>>741112643
short is how long you're gonna last once I shove my fat hog into your tight little asshole and blow your backdoor off the goddamn hinges
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>>741112643
I'm on chapter 2 and I'm already feeling tired kek
It's not a bad game, though
It's just that walking everywhere is boring af, but I understand the peasantmaxxing gimmick
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>have two handed sword that does 73 damage
>nobody sells anything better
Maybe it is because i'm only in chapter 3 but i've had this in my possession for a long time.
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>>741112909
Is it the sword of one of the Old Mine templars? I'm also using it in chapter 3 after he got knocked out by minecrawlers.
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>>741112228
How does this game run?
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>>741112950
Yeah I think that is where I looted it.
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>>741112969
It is UE5 made by some deranged spaniards.
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>>741112950
I'm going there right now. Hope I can loot that shit. I'm in dire need of better gear.
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>>741112950
I'm surprised it runs smoothly on my shitty pc. In the lowest settings but still.
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Where are good bows in Gothic 2? I got the fire bow but it only shoots fire arrow. Also do I need to solve the missing persons case in chapter 1? I killed Dexter and the bandits but I haven't gone to the smugglers.
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>>741112969
I just finished it on my toaster with 3070, after last update it was running a bit more smoothly. Played on medium with AA off, it could get a stutter from time to time, but mostly was running fine.
But I remember DS emulation at it's beginning and playing games on 30% speed, so I have high tolrance.
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ue5 can be optimized and look preddy good it turns out
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I like to just sit on the benches in swamp camp and soak in the atmosphere.
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apparently the old mine got flooded? nobody is sending me there though
I already cleared it out in ch2, does the flooding spawn some new loot or some shit?
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hey would u guys be down to start 4 or 5 simultaneous gothic threads? we could make every thread on the catalog a gothic thread and take over 4chan
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Never heard of this game. Is this like Morrowind or something? Or more like Witcher?
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>>741113292
>apparently the old mine got flooded?
Who knew that setting off a bomb would have adverse effects?
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>>741113292
It closes off the mine and some NPCs die there. It's a major plot point, keep playing.
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>>741113294
>4 or 5
That's nothing, the BG3 astroturfing was like ten threads at a time bare minimum
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You know these threads are made and bumped by paid shills right?
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>>741113349
wasn't me
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>>741113538
sure shaggy, whatever you say
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>>741113524
>>741113294
brown hands
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>>741113271
>le dark darks and le washed highlights is le heckin kino and optimized anons
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>>741112765
>walking
you get a mount in chapter 1, learn to talk to npcs
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>>741113745
kill yourself
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>>741113428
Hory shet
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>>741113829
>le plebbitor bluesky raped tranny try not to wish death upon someone challenge [IMPOSSIBLE]
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The ambient song that plays in the Old Mines is quite similar to Tensha Mutna from The Witcher 3, at least the beginning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVgEdvez8dk
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>>741113178
>Where are good bows in Gothic 2?
Khaled sells high tier bows since chapter 1, he's on Onar's farm standing right next to Lee. There's a composite bow (60 dex, 65 damage) inside a chest nearby the group of bandits camping on a bridge not far from Akil's farm. You will know that you've found the place if you see giant lizards.
>do I need to solve the missing persons case in chapter 1?
No, you can ignore it until you reach chapter 3.
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Is the game any good

I've only played Skyrim and BG3
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>>741114531
>I've only played Skyrim and BG3
now that you enjoy the taste of gutter oil and dog, can you ever enjoy prime rib again?
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>>741114605
kek
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>>741114605
ain't no way unc just said that
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>abandon, crumbling tower
>yet the sconces are all lit
yeah okay game, just ruin immersion why not
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>>741114605
Gothic fans are delusional

This game some outdated shit

Even back then these retards thought it was better than morrowind
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>>741114374
>Khaled sells high tier bows since chapter 1, he's on Onar's farm standing right next to Lee. There's a composite bow (60 dex, 65 damage) inside a chest nearby the group of bandits camping on a bridge not far from Akil's farm. You will know that you've found the place if you see giant lizards.
I found the composite bow about 2 minutes after I made the post.
>No, you can ignore it until you reach chapter 3.
Great. I'm running around looking for things to kill for exp so I can get 60 dex. I figure the composite bow and master sword will carry me for most of the game until I get really good spells.
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>>741114763
I'm not a "Gothic Fan" though :^)
Sounds like you're fighting against the demons in your head and losing
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>>741114605
>bait out the dishonest question
>he instantly drops the facade and replies
>>>741114763
HAHA
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DEMAKE
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>>741114605
Worse gameplay than Oblivion if you can believe that
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>see a treasure chest across the way with a big jump
>"Well, I have a few scrolls of bloodfly"
>Lester fucking domes me and knocks me off a cliff
reeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>741114872
Not bait. i seriously can't tell how the game plays
like more witcher than elder scrolls
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>>741114763
It is better than Morrowind. It's better than most videogames. I just played it for the first time this year, too, so it's not nostalgia.
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>>741115208
>huge silent hill 2 fan
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>>741112765
This retard is running around the colony instead of bunnyhopping across it on his scavenger, lmfao
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>bro just talk to everyone
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>>741112228
modded skyrim look exactly like this
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>>741114531
It's honestly great.
It's a game that almost expects you to game it and fuck around with its systems to get ahead.
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>>741112228
I don't buy censored dogshit like this Gothic 1 DEImake
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>>741113213
is a 3070 considered toaster-tier now?
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>my swing goes wide and hits a digger during the exchange zone quest
>now every single guard goes EY YOU BEATIN UP EM POOR DIGGERS NOW ARE YA?
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>>741112969
Fine on PC, but I hear it sucks on consoles.
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I've maxed out strength, one handed and two handed and know how to climb - where should I be dumping the rest of the LP i'm earning?
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>>741114763
>Even back then these retards thought it was better than morrowind
Everything was better than Morrowind, and this is coming from a Morrowind fan. Holy shit Morrowind was so bad.
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>>741114763
That's because it is.
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>>741114872
It's incredibly how cool you believe you are.
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>>741116508
Dexterity for the pickpocketing bonus.
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>>741116689
It's incredibly how ESL you are much having believe.
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can you learn circle 1 or 2 magic as a warder? I would like light and tk at least
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>>741116883
You can become a 6th circle mage despite choosing any camp. Camp choice just determines the mid game armor style.
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>m*ge
not even once
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>>741116883
yes but if you didn't pick fire mages in Old Camp you're going to have to wait until ch 4
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I smacked Lefty in his cheeky gob.
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>>741117373
Swamp is limited to four iirc
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Got first in old camp and did some quests around, now I'm on the verge of delivering a letter I brought back from the old mine to Diego. If I progress, will this lock me out of the other camps?
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>>741117821
bring it to New Camp first if you want to join them. I didn't and I got locked out. Straight to Diego if you wanna join Old
spoilery, but better than having to be a Gomez cuckboy like I had to
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>>741114773
Onar's farm? Can you x that on the map please? I kinda want a nice bow and that sounds freaking sweet.
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>>741116840
Hindu will soon be worlds #1 language you dumb pig.
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>>741116198
Well, they put them in them. Fact, it's an undrpowered version that they fit in, but it's the fact.
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Instead of
>You slept well
it said
>The dead stood waiting in your dream. Chains held them still.
WTF
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>>741118470
you're more hated worldwide than the Jews, congratulations. Didn't think it was possible. You've brought the world together in a way only an alien attack might've done otherwise. Anyways, head over on to /pol/ if you want to be humiliated further. This is neither the time nor the place, 'saar'.
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I'm about to finish chapter 3 and I'm only level 20, am I crazy underleveled? I feel like it.
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:^)
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>>741118623
Lay off the swamp weed.
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>>741118696
Probably not? I'm 23 at the last stone and I wandered around a LOT
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>>741118709
more fucking censorship. they didn't wear panties in the original
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>>741118757
What the fuck, I finished the game at level 37. Why do people zugzug the main quest all the time?
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>>741118779
yeah they had their giant futa cocks in full display
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Sum up each camp in a single sentence. If I am going to play this game, im not joining some lame gay camp.
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>>741118696
You should be fine if you put everything into strength, melee weapons and use Uriziel or a good one-handed weapon.
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>>741118757
>>741118879
I've been exploring quite a bit, but I think I did chapter 2 pretty fast, maybe that's where I messed up.
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>>741119092
Old camp, slavery
New camp, thieves and other nigger behavior
Swamp camp, DUDE WEED LMAO IM SO HIGH DUDE HAHA
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>>741119092
dude, weed, lmao
i don't believe in rules man
Working to get leverage over the king and improving quality of life for all is a good thing to do.
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>>741118562
It's actually good.
I was a doomer ever since I played the demo years ago, thinking there's no way these idiots understand why people liked Gothic and that this is just going to be a bunch of talentless hacks cashing in on the name, but I was proven wrong.
If you don't like the Gothic formula you will probably still not like it, they didn't "fix" too much about the core gameplay, but that's exactly why I like it so much.
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I'm level 24 and I just started chapter 4. Like 95% of all wildlife is pretty much dead. How do I get exp now? Assault random people then leave/sleep?
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>>741118373
I already forgot where it was exactly, but it's near the tavern in a cave near a burnt down house.
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>>741119092
>old camp: the strongest and most well-equipped, gives the king his ore and gets actual supplies in return, red
>new camp: every man for himself, actively trying to break out of the barrier when they're not screwing each other over, blue
>swamp camp: dude weed lmao, worships the sleeper and hopes it'll break them out, hell to navigate, bald
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How do the Gothic autists feel about the remake?
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>>741119092
Oldfags.
Newfags.
Schizos.
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>>741119329
It's tranny slop, I wish I bought crimson desert instead
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>>741119245
>Working to get leverage over the king and improving quality of life for all is a good thing to do
lol this guy sucks gomez cock to the balls

sack chaser dressed in red
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>>741119293
Missions give some chunky XP.
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Mining ore makes you a digger permanently. 3 ore a minute is NOT worth your time.
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>>741119092
The best camp to join is Old Camp since its in the middle of the map which makes pit stops better, having your main hub be in the center of the map is great.
Second, it keeps you close to Gomez, so you can try to kill him and take his shit.
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dis bein mi hands busted? cant take ore to swim? pile up top y u not grabbin blow the barier
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>>741119654
and i thought i was drinking too much earlier
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bein down rit there the empty shaft. he say Andrew Ryan he say brow sweat so were mine ore
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>>741119654
>>741119803
What are you doin brudda
Go to them there swamp camp man.
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>>741119092
Old Camp: USA
New Camp: Ukraine
Swamp Camp: India
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so.. why is it called gothic? not many buildings around...
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So what's the most powerful build? Still in chapter 1, need to decide what to start investing in.
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>>741119092
Old is Duty, New is Freedom, Swamp is Clear Sky.
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>Haha, yeah. How weird that all those guys died overnight. You just going to leave them there like that? Say, I can't help but notice there's nobody else around.....
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Where can I find lizards for the beast of Khorinis? I think I killed them all
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>>741120353
so.. why is it called the elder scrolls? not many elder scrolls around...
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>>741120736
something about them having the history of the world or some shit
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>blocking takes damage
>dodging moves you 2 and a half inches
>straying dosnt matter because every single hit is some instant headbutt that reaches 4 yards or somthing
>every single item on the map is impossible to see, have to run staring at the ground
I think im just an old man now. I never used to be this bad at games.
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>>741120883
you can get the acrobatics skill in the new camp for dodge roll
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>>741120353
One the devs was into gothic rock music so he proposed the game to be named Gothic.
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>>741120913
Yeah best skill in the game imo (default dodge is a joke), I'd get this no matter what your build is otherwise. It also adds i-frames on top of the ridiculous roll range which means you could just skip any fight and go loot anything you wanted.
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>>741120883
>>dodging moves you 2 and a half inches
There's dodge roll to be learn in the Swamp camp, I think northeast of the temple, on the beach. A NPC teaches you.
>>straying dosnt matter because every single hit is some instant headbutt that reaches 4 yards or somthing
It does, but you have to time correctly. I had the same conclusion when first dealing with scavengers and bloodflies, but it's just a matter of learning their pattern.
>>every single item on the map is impossible to see, have to run staring at the ground
Yeah, but it's rarely important items. Those are given to you or you can find them in chests. It's a non-issue (for the most part).
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i'm looking at an interactive map and can't see any onar, unar, khaled or khalid marker
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>>741120417
STR melee is very much straight forward and lets you be very strong, but there's also been posts about DEX ranged being strong since headshot crits are a thing now.
It seems like only magic is still shit and even got nerfed last patch. It also requires you to plan ahead knowing how much you can invest in things other than magic as you don't get access to it from level 0.
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>>741120913
>>741121147
Alright so at least theres hope. Was getting frustrated a bit and realized im not even on the intended path. Does this game have actual 'builds' or is it one size fits all with the stats?
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i found a Lee and an ORIK in new camp.
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>>741121291
Those are characters that only appear in Gothic 2, you won't find them in 1/remake.
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>>741112313
>fire.png
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>>741113745
shut up, bitch
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Glowing in the dark
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just joined da new camp
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>>741121467
>t. i need to speak to the supervisor tumblr karen (still a virgin at 37)
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>>741121361
You should either focus on full strength, full dexterity or a bit into either and then focus on magic by chapter 3 ish
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>Follow everything to join the firemages, including the trial of fire right up until when they walk upstairs.
>Now, instead of following, go and do the quest to join the guard. Join the guard and grab your armor, any upgrades and the 2h or crossbow skills if you want.
>Now go into the fire mage ceremony and become a fire mage. You will no longer be a guard, but keep your armor.

Anyone else 'sploiting?
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>>741121893
Crossbow can be learned later from Scorpio in Chapter 4 but yeah I did what another anon did and started the Fire Mage trials, became a warder and mastered 2H and maxed out warder armor, then completed the Fire Mage ceremony.
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>finished the swampweed monopoly quest which I never picked up by killing three dudes in a cave
>doesn't show up in the quest completion log because of this
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>>741121893
just pick warder and do the mage thing with blues later
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>>741116362
Every time someone ask about crashes or how the game runs, some imbecile responds
>it crashes on my PC but it's way worse on consoles
>it runs poorly on my PC but it's way worse on consoles
It seems brainwashed PC MASTER RACER faggots just can't help them selves and have to spout idiotic bullshit.
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>reach xardas' tower
>game suddenly crashing randomly every 2-5 minutes
no noNOOOOOOOOO
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I wasn't one of you, but I avenged you. (Ch 3 spoilers)
Hope it didn't break a quest or anything but damn it was fun
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>>741123392
>he boughted AMD and ryzen 3d cache CPU
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>>741112228
Will i enjoy this game if gothic 2 filtered me?
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>master two-handed
>parry a full-grown troll
>kick it for half its health
imagine daring to fuck with the nameless hero after chapter 2
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What do (you) want to see in the Gothic 2 remake?
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>>741124405
Sex mods. Rape the people you beat up.
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>>741124405
Uncensored Nadia sex scene.
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>>741124405
Being able to cast more kinds of spells while moving.
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>tfw realize I can fuck up literally an entire camp and they can't do shit about it
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>>741120417
leveling up and simply existing
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Do I have to invest in shit like lockpicking and skinning? Will I be fucking myself over if I don't?
I was thinking about going a warrior build with a tinge of magic on the side, but fuck me, I can't earn any money.
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>>741125561
Skinning is doggo with how the economy works in the game. Basically you won't make your money back until you have so much money it doesn't matter, and then you're just x number of LP worse for your efforts. Not sure about lockpicking but I'm thinking about getting it myself as I actually like the minigame it's just retardedly difficult.

Just do quests, they shit ore at you.
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>>741125561
>>741125863
IMO these filler skills like hunting and smithing should've just cost ore, it sucks they eat up your LPs too.
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I need better armor. I'm using the starting Shadow armor and I'm dying to the Minecrawler Queen with two hits. SAD
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>>741126018
I remember when the minecrawler queen was just a stationary bullet sponge that couldn't hit you if it tried. Good times.
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>>741112228
>Comfy
So buyers remorse?
Got it
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I do like the little autistic things, like the game showing you the accurate amount of arrows you have in the quiver. It's cute.
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Bros, as retarded as the lockpicking is in this game, I can not put in to words the satisfaction of finally picking a lock after trying to pick it for a straight hour. I feel like I could fuck Oprah.
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>>741126142
But I have over 200? That'd be a pretty fat quiver.
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>>741118779
Youre making my eyes roll
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BULLLITTTT WHERE ARE YOU YOU FUCK

I MUST PROTECT MAI WAIFU, THE COOKING WHORE
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>dude wants me to pay him 400 ore to get in to the old mine
>kick his teeth in instead
>nobody says a single thing about it
I thought it was just unnamed NPCs you could do anything to? Can you just fuck up literally anyone if there's no one else around? Or is the KGB going to come for me at some point?
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>bopped by a molerat
>lose a third of my hp
glad i picked normal
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Hot gay sex with Mud
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>>741126750
Just beat his ass in the tavern
>spend 20 minutes trying to lockpick Gomez's doors without some guard approaching me
>give up
I guess the whores aint gonna run away now
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>>741113271
UE is realismslop
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>>741127139
Mud is euphemism for shit anon, he has an exceptionally shitty ass even by Colony standards (which includes the orcs btw).
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>>741127486
You niggas just say words
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>>741126916
You can beat up EVERYONE, anon. Others might attack based on faction ties, but you can just beat them up too if you can. And it also conveniently means no one gives a fuck when you kick the cultist asses in Old Camp, for instance.
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What'd they do with the combat, is it the same as the original gothic?
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>>741127525
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>>741127520
Dont turn me on more anon
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>>741127486
t. Anonslop
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>>741112228
>edition
I've been enjoying the game so far so I'm not too upset about it compared to, say, the usual gachashit, but why the pseudo-generals?
Or am I only noticing this sort of thing now because it's about a game I'm actually interested in for once?
Either way, seems like a 24/7 thread 10+ days after launch would be better suited to /vg/ at this point tbdesu. Kinda surprised there isn't even a Gothic general there at all.
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>>741127656
People will lose interest soon because most already finished the remake. No need for a general for a few days more at most
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx5lrTnr0rk
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>>741127568
Why would I lay a finger on my white jungle brothas?
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>>741127763
Do perma potions make the attributes go above 100 in this remake?
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>>741127873
Yes.
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>>741127873
Yes.
Shame I only realized that after using a few of them before cappping my str kek
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>>741112228
I just spent half an hour running around old camp looking for whistler. What am I doing wrong? Also, I got led to swamp camp and have no idea how to get back.
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>>741127898
I may sound like a real casual saying this, but being able to track NPCs would be some real QoL - trying to find some of these fucks is a real pain. Especially since they moved some of them around from where they were in the original for whatever dumb reason (like Sharky in New Camp).
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>>741127898
Congratulations, you are a swamp nigga now.
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>>741120736
You literally use one in skyrim.
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>>741121601
What does a full dex build look like?
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>>741128068
Devs forgot to add resistance against piercing damage to almost every enemy in the game so you just fuck everyone up (especially since headshots do extra damage now). But it's a bit cucked since you need to scour every vendor for arrows or bolts if you're exclusively ranged and I wouldn't be surprised if they nerf ranged as a whole next patch given how badly they raped magic already.
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can I "spec" both into magic and 2handers?
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>>741121147
>>>dodging moves you 2 and a half inches
>There's dodge roll to be learn in the Swamp camp, I think northeast of the temple, on the beach. A NPC teaches you.
It's in the new camp
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>>741128125
Yeah battlemage is a fine way to play - open with some spells then beat them up. You don't even need to bother with 1-handed training anymore in the remake, you can skip straight to 2-handed.
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>>741112313
>We want the star wars audience
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>>741128186
Can I get all circles still? I dunno how plentiful points are
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god this game is so sucks i rather do agility courses or rc for 16 hours than amputate my brain by playing this retarded zoomer game
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>>741127898
>>741127965
Yeah but that's kindof Gothic's thing. You can look up a map online if you're really getting filtered, but it's best to just not laser focus on one NPC that you don't know the location of. This becomes less of an issue the more quests you have, and as you do those quests you'll learn the locations of more NPCs.

As for getting back, just run. If it hasn't been too long since you got escorted, the number of mobs will be much lower than on your way out there. Bob and weave son
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>>741128104
Interesting. Does it affect melee at all or just archery? I usually play archer in these type of games.
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>>741128264
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>>741128276
Yeah ofc you can do that, but some inbetween would've been nice. Like being able to ask for more directions for specific NPCs - the ones you can ask about never really move anyway so it's a bit useless atm.
>>741128305
No, dex is just for ranged dmg and pickpocketing chance.
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Youre not real fans
you never played the origonal gothics
you never spend thousand of hours on it
you never modded the originals
you never experienced the mystery and the thrill when playing gothic game for the first time
it the beats entire elder scroll franchise it will always be the original dark souls
Bless those who experienced it as a kid through a friend or a family member or as an adult who just randomly stumbling upon it in a store - youre pure and blessed and just remember to pirate the games and never give money to thq.
Youre a real fan if: the remake just welcomed you to our game world; i hope it will convince you to play the originals. Have a blasting day and life
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>>741128470
Thanks for sharing anon
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>>741128338
saaar japan love german woman saar need open bob vegana
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>>741112228
I downloaded a pirated copy to try as a demo and the game is surprisingly soulful. Might have to pick it up during a Steam sale sometime
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I aint finna buy until we get a scavenger sex mod + anal rape prison mod with Mud dressed like a whore
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Sirs why are the woman not nude??? Bladdy basterds
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>>741128470
>he modded the originals
A fake fan calling others fake fans. A story as old as time.
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>>741128369
I do agree with that, they could have made the "do you know where I can find..." mechanic a little more comprehensive for new players. I know I was getting pretty frustrated in my first few hours doing donuts in Old Camp looking for people.

Side note, Guy's line about "a big red awning, you can't miss it" was such a dirty play.
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>>741128758
Mods is for having more fan, dipshit
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>>741129040
Fun*
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>>741112228
Is it possible to play as a pure mage and complete the game in this fashion?

How strong is magic in the Remake compared to the original Gothic? Stronger, weaker or on par?
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>randomly cave in Mud's head while I'm running past him one day
>nobody even lifts their head
Whoever came up with this dude is a biblical level hater.
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>>741129274
Mage is trash atm. You can learn firebolt rune from Torrez lvl 1 and with a bit mana you can solo half the map until chapter 3 but most of the other spells are either shit, boring or useless. Only firebolt lets you actually fucking move while casting while pretty much everything else locks you in place with what feels like 3 business days worth of charging time until you shoot ff the spell.
Join the weed camp and be a templar instead. You can learn circle magic immediately upon joining even if you only reach circle 4 the swamp spells are decent.
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>>741118623
For me it's the
>You dreamt your friend
Awww
>His eyes were alien
Scared for life
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>>741126278
I feel like 90% of complaints stem from the modern minmaxing gaymers refusing to learn a skill specifically designed to help with opening locks, get stuck on locks that require 15-30 move combinations, waste 30 minutes, proceed to have a meltie due to dunning-kruger effect, cry about it online.
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>>741127417
I ran one of those lockpick solvers out of curiosity because I couldn't open that door even with mastery locksmithing and it turns out you can't open them as there is no working combination. You're meant to get the key from Gomez's cold hands.
Or just sneak in when he opens the door kek
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>>741126278
Just mod that shit to open all chests, or show the next step to solve it. Don't bother with it. It's not that hard, but it does require some effort. I totally understand how people feel it breaks the pace of the game if you just want to mindlessly kill enemies.
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>>741120883
Blocking will reduce damage much better once you train qeapon skill and have actual armour and. Am in ch3 and I rarely dodge anymore.
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>>741128186
Where do I get two hander training? Chapter 2.
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>>741129652
>You meet a stranger, he wants to help you.
>He also wants something else.
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>>741128470
I did all of those things. My cousin burned couple of CDs for me to play gothic and I loved the game so much I begged my parents and got gothic 2 when it came out. G2 is basically the perfect RPG which I replay to this day with some basic engine and graphic mods.
Imo remake is better than OG G1 other than the bugs and VA which is completely fucked on a technical level. G1 didn't age well, even with mods the controls and movement in that game is fucked. I cringe thinking about the trade windows in the OG.
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>>741126750
Lolno. >>741127417 is bullitt fantard.

You follow his drunk ass around at night, until he gets 'super drunk' state.. then he will leave by the north gate and make his way to a river to piss, whereupon you get to kill his faggot ass for trying to beat and rape you at the beginning of the game.

Not for any dumb whore. Doing the quest for her just makes sure he goes into the path of fucking off drunk. Apparently it's still glitchy as fuck.
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>>741129921
There's someone teaching two-handed at every camp. You just need to find the guy. For Old Camp is Thorus, Lee on New Camp and Angar on Swamp.
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>>741130016
Have you tried Gothic 1 with the unreal mod? You can opt into it like a beta and the entire game is literally Gothic 1 to 1 without the movement jank.
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>>741130039
I don't mind the mission from that bitch since she gives me 500 xp for something I woulda done anyway
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Few things I really want to see done in the next couple of patches or so:
>Buff magic, maybe don't make it op broken like pre nerf firestorm but reduce cast times and give us more spells that work when moving. Also fix spells that due literally 0 damage due to how resistances work in the game.
>Buff blacksmithing by giving us earlier access to resources and recipes. By the time you unlock decent smithing weapons in third/4th act you get better shit from random NPCs and vendors.
>Buff inscription by reducing mana cost of scrolls to make them more accessible for physical fighters
>Reduce climbing cost to 0 like the orc language. It's a trap ability that doesn't actually give you access to anything unique. Every single destination that uses climbing walls can either be reached through transformations or it's just a shortcut without loot. Abilities that cost LP should offer something unique.
>Fix skinning by nerfing bulk selling penalty for smaller items or actually giving us NPCs that buy specific trophies without penalty like Wolf is supposed to in the new camp
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>>741129883
>just mod it
>it's not that hard
I'm that anon. I'm also a puzzle game enjoyer.

First of all, this shit is hard. I only say it's retarded in terms of the learning curve. I really enjoy it but the step between diff 2 and 3 locks is a sheer cliff. As a game designer I get why people are modding it out, but I think it's great. I prefer a puzzle system that is based on skill and has the potential to filter you. Which.... I think is a pretty common opinion unless you just hate puzzles, or wish there weren't puzzles in this particular mechanic.

By contrast the Bethesda lockpicking system just lets you lockpick anything if you have a basic understanding of the mechanic. Which is gay as hell imo. If you're not getting filtered sometimes, there's no challenge.
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This game is shit. Sorry guys. It was probably decent for its time but it's just bad by today's standards even with the enhanced graphics. It's not even about the no quest marker thing either (I actually like that). This game has one of the worst early game experiences I've ever played in an RPG. I wouldn't be surprised if 50% of players have less than 3 hours playtime.
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>>741130535
git gud faggot
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I swear they hava str obsessed dev on the team with agenda of hating mages
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>>741130561
I have no counter-argument.
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>>741130039
Ok but where is he? I've been looking for this cocksucker for 3 in game days. I literally afk'ed outside of the north gate for a whole night and never saw him leave.

I'm actually starting to think this nigger is a meme. I didn't even get the cutscene at the beginning of him whooping my ass. When Diego mentioned it I thought I glitched out, I thought it was some weird holdover from the OG until I accepted this quest. I don't think he exists in my universe and if I see him I'm vaporizing that interloper on the spot.
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>>741130314
Good points all around though the bulk selleing thing is difficult since the remake has a lot more enemies and stuff to sell so the old system would end up giving you thousands of nuggies in the first chapter

>>741130602
Several devs hate mages from what I can tell.
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>watching some female zoomer letsplayer bumble her way through Gothic
>"well, it is a remake of this very, very old game"
Fuck you, cunt, it was only 25 years ago.
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>>741118564
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>>741130756
kek
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>>741130734
Only a quarter of a century
That's basically prehistoric as far as zoomers are concerned
lmao
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>>741130734
The funniest part about getting older is seeing people say shit like this knowing they'll be 50 in about 5 seconds and how much harder that time is going to hit them when they think 25 years is an eon.
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Holy shit 2H sword is just slicing through these wolves like buttah
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>>741129329
Mud is the real main character
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what the hell is her problem?
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>>741129274
>old xardas
wise, intimidating, powerful presence, looks like he could rip a tome in half with his bare hands
>new xardas
count dooku after 3 years of cancer radiotherapy, quips like a marvel teenager

after beating this remake i have come to realize i hate almost everything they revisioned
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>>741131393
I like how you say butter
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>>741131551
Desperately waiting for mods that allow for character reskinning.
I also don't think Xardas says any marvel-quips in German.
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>>741131893
he acts like a bratty teenager in english dub
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>>741132078
I believe it, I hear nothing but bad things from the eng VA scene
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how much strength do the best 2h require?
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>in the orc cemetery with baal lukor
>reach the end
>he goes crazy
>dialogue ends
>NH says out loud "well, THAT just happened"
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>>741132710
Baal Liquor lol
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>>741132078
>>741132710
Damn, the english dub sucks ass. Glad I don't use it.
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>>741132710
Are you serious? Turns out just like the og the remake might not find much traction among eng speakers
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>>741129329
That was a case in the original too. Nobody liked him. At least this time he gives some experience, in the original game beating him gave you 0 exp.
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>>741133097
>1 xp
He might as well not have though he has a few nuggies on him at least
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>>741132987
The german dub at least manage to make me laugh once or twice
>obwohl, nee
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jnMG3tFmULI
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>>741132638
90, its Innos' Rage, Gomez has it
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>>741133208
>Oh nein dann geh ich wohl besser
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>>741133208
>Wrzód: "Kto rano wstaje, temu Innos owcę daje"
I love the polish dub.
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>>741120420
Swamp camp is literally Monolith
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>>741112909
Just beat up gomez for his 2h sword
You can do it chapter one
For 1h beat up scar right nearby
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>>741133575
Glad I don't feel the need to play games this way, I'd be bored out of my mind just breezing through the game the with absolute best equipment
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>>741133834
You still need to raise str for those doebelt
2h needs 90 str if i am not wrong
And 1h 70 str
After the first chapter there is zero struggle even without those swords (unless you're retarded mage)
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>>741133404
Kek
Sheep sex mod when
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>>741124405
change how crits work, it's so fucking retarded
you either do nothing or 2 shot everything, nothing inbetween, just port the remake system of weapon mastery over, it was perfect.
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>>741133987
Thankfully Hard progression helps from becoming OP by chapter 2, too bad is doubly sucks for mages
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So whats the Best 1h weapon? Scar's sword?
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>>741134174
They will absolutely port the remake combat with maybe a few tweaks, anything else it pointless extra work
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>>741133208
they've started using swear words in polish version of the remake, i was a bit put off by it at first but it grew on me fast, there are some lines and line reads that made me chuckle
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>>741134451
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I have a hard time figuring out why would Nameless Hero EVER pick any camp but New Camp.

Old Camp is all about just sucking up to Gomez for whatever scraps he leaves at the table and giving up at actually getting out of the barrier.
Swamp Camp is all about the Sleeper and NH blatantly doesn't give a shit about the Sleeper nor believes in any of it.
New Camp's only con as a faction is that it's lawless, but NH is a convict that thrives in being able to do whatever he pleases so that shouldn't even be a factor. And it's the only camp where the leader will ask "Why do you want to join us?" and if you answer "To get the fuck out of here" he'll respond you're in the right place.
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>>741134451
Yeah, as Andrzej Sapkowski had already proven, there is nothing funnier than a tactical "kurwa" out of nowhere.
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>>741134451
Same for the german edition and I love the lore friendly curses
>Bei Beliars rauschender Wut
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>poolish "people" talking to each other about random uninteresting nonsense
this series is as dead as ever
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>>741134505
You can kinda explain it by saying NM is just looking for quick ways to gain power, that he never cared about Gomez or the Sleeper but both factions have their strong points
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>>741134505
Yeah, but it might be my memory being spotty, but I feel like the New Camp has the least involved introductory quest chain.
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>>741134631
Good morning sir
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The whole parry/riposte mechanic is mad good once you get the timing down. That was how I managed to spank an adult troll and only took two hits due to mistiming the block.
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>>741134697
Block/parry is the only thing that saved me in sleepers temple
Those fucking undead orcs can fucking hit
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>>741134451
I like them though I'm not sure if I like them in glossary
but it leads to funny things either way
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>>741134741
oh, they can get hilarious, picrel accidental biały wiersz
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>>741134771
Sounds very haiku.
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>>741134771
>not just beating him up so you can have a digga Brother
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Do you have enough stat points to play a gish in this game?
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any patch news?
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>>741134646
Pretty much, the rice lord, scamming Isidro and then taking the supply list from the mine
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>>741134851
yes, and one handed is more than fine to beat the game with, magic kind of sucks so if you stick with circles 1-4 you'll be a-ok
I think swamp is the best camp now in hindsight
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>>741134910
Also the dam lurker and beating up Lefty.
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>>741134927
>either run half naked for chapter 2
>or pay 800 ore for a shitty T-shirt
They don't make it easy and the Templer armor looks weird somehow when NH wears it

>>741134957
Lurker is an easy source of xp and beating up Lefty is something I consider a hobby
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>>741134927
>I think swamp is the best camp now in hindsight
So just like in the originl, huh.
Being limited to circle 4 isn't really that bad in og gothic because the spells of the 5th and 6th circle are pretty bad, while all the most powerful spells (Firestorm and Destroy Undead) are only circle 3 and 4.
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Non-buynary
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>>741135041
Holy fucking man face
Must be german
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>this jeet is still seething
Saar show bob vegana basterd benchod
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>>741134631
Just learn polish retard
It's a polak board
Kurwa mac
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>>741133575
Wont the whole camp aggro on you?
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>chapter 5
>wanna clear old camp/clap gomez
>pull 20 guards
>whip out fire rain scroll
>start 2 hour casting animation
>"at least it will oneshot them all"
>doesnt
what the fuck, giga magic is supposed to be walking apocalypse tier like in the older games, why
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>>741135041
>women in remake
>shoulders twice as wide surpassing width of hips
holy fuck this isn't even worth a pirate
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I do like how they got rid of the pre-rendered cutscenes this time around. It was killing my immersion how in the cutscenes, my NH was always becoming a 2H warrior/paladin, even though I've been playing as a mage the whole time.
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>>741135041
>Non-buynary
that doesn't really work here
you're just copying this from tomodachi
reminds me of the tortanic image ("YOU SINK NEXT!"
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>>741135268
>remake removes sovl
>whoa guise this is le heckin sovlful XD amirite?
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And here I was thinking they would add a cut sex scene between NH and Velaya.
Cowards.
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>>741130535
Sure
Play the originals instead
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>>741135041
You didn't play the originals either redditor pleb
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>>741129921
Chapter 3 only.
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>>741135519
Your buzzword-brain is malfunctioning. A redditor wouldn't imply censorship of women is bad. Also
>no argument
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can you fight the other 2 fighters (only beat Kirgo earlier) in the Old Camp arena after joining old camp? the other one doesn't talk to me and Gor Hanis says "I'm not ready yet"
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>>741135906
kharim is I believe only during the quest, no idea what's the trigger for gor hanis, people say they were able to fight him in chapter 3 but it might be some level or max mana trigger
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>>741135987
str or mana trigger from what I can tell from his words
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>>741135987
I tried him act 1 (insulted him until he wanted to fight) but couldn't beat him obviously
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>>741135823
You're brown
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why THE FUCK did they make lockpicking so hard?
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>>741136730
Designed but committee is my guess
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>>741136730
To make you commit to SOVLful acts like making notes.
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>>741136730
ayoo this nigga trying to solve a system with only one equation and five variables lmfao
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>>741136730
>And then if you actually level up the skill, you end up locking some chests for good because you ruin the logical progression.
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>>741136730
soul
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>>741136730
Just download a mod bro
Honestly I feel too old for that shit, in the limited time I have for vidya I won't spend half of the time picking shitty locks for a poor reward
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>>741116198
there was almost no gpu performance progress in last 6 years and rtx3070 is equal or even faster than rtx5060 so no
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>>741136730
Wait until you get to the thief master chest in G2 Remake.
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>>741136915
>dragon fights will be replaced by 20 gate locks to their hearts
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>>741136915
>Even the poorest digger in the Old Camp can get 5 or 6 of these to store 3 grilled meat, a torch and 12 nugs in.
I'm pretty sure the locks themselves are more expensive than the entirety of all their other possessions.
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Does the game have any gay sex?
Don't wanna play an heteroid
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>>741136621
>seething currycel
lmao, your concession is accepted
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wtf bro..
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Is my swampweed harvest quest bugged? I killed all the bloodflies and recieved 50 swampweeds from the picker but Cor Kalom won't accept my weeds. help.
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>>741137340
there is a second picker
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>>741119092
the point of these games is to replay them and try out each faction, what sucks in 1 is that you end up a water mage no matter what.
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>>741137153
Just one guy who implies being gay, and a scene of two guys who killed each other and ended up in a kinda somewhat romantic position but with zero context for what went down.

The colony convicts seem remarkably resilient to celibacy.
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>>741137364
Can you hint me where he is
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>>741124405
I want it to be as hard as Gothic 2 NOTR is. Also, to have NOTR, of course. But make the Claw better when it's a rune. Cuz it sucked as a rune. Maybe add a few more spooky skeleton/zombie areas cuz they were cool.
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>>741137462
somewhere in southern part of swamp? there is a big tower building there
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>>741137153
ye, goblins are fags
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>>741136915
Where the fuck in the colony is the master locksmith that builds all these things? I have to step by and thank him with Uriziel.
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where the orc women
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>>741137484
yeah he's the one who told me that I need to kill the flies and already got 50 weeds from him
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>>741137153
Mud is an animal fucker and lets you sleep in his bed.
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>>741137568
then there is second one somewhere near there, opposite way from the beach
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>>741137153
>in literal prison with 5 women and 500 dudes
>BUT I DON'T WANT LE GAY SEX
bet if you go to prison you are guaranteed to get it lol
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>>741137194
You're the brown jeet who needs to see bobs n veganas or you wont play the game
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>>741137446
>The colony convicts seem remarkably resilient to celibacy.
Plenty of scavs, molerats and meatbug to go around after all.
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>>741137605
You should reread anon's post.
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>>741137396
Not really, you can just finish the game as a mercenary, not a mage
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>>741137641
>Mud: And they dared to judge me for my past, when I was a visionary.
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How does the colony keep up its numbers when the king only sends like one dude a month and a digger can't even travel on the roads without being killed by goblins, bloodflies or scavengers?
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>>741137641
Why bother with those when you can go with the boys to the mountain ruins with a couple of roughspun nets and you have yourselves a pretty decent fuckslave all things considered

if you can stand the screeching and birdshit smell, but hey
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>>741137748
You wouldn't a cloaca
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>>741119092
Old Camp: Give up any notions of escape, we've actually got a pretty sweet gig here huh? (Only Gomez really does, everyone else is crawling in the mud hoping to catch a sniff of whatever Gomez is dining on tonight.)
New Camp: LET MET OUT, LET ME OOOOOOOOOUT. Also, stealing from the Old Camp because fuck them.
Swamp Camp: The Sleeper will let us out! Praise the Sleeper and pass the kush!
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>>741112228
Censored shit has women looking like gay men. Hope it flops because of that.
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>>741137726
Diggers don't go alone, they are accompanied by Wardens, the roads are relatively safe, and Old Camp has a rule set to ensure nobody kills each other for no reason, so I guess the fatality rate is low.
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>>741137726
>How does the colony keep up its numbers
Kinda doesn't but there was a large convict population in that prison before the forcefield, most of which was cut down to what you see at the start of the game.
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Replace lockpicking with picross
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>>741136915
JFC
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>>741137748
Most as common, far more dangerous.
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>>741137726
It doesn't. It's not supposed to be a long-term sustainable colony by design.
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>>741137935
not as common*
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Bury Zenek
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>>741119092
Old camp: working in the mines for minimum wage that you have to spend on protection
New camp: working in the mines for three bowls of rice and promise of escaping
Swamp camp: getting free weed every day in exchange for worshiping the Sleeper
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Come to think of it, Gothic 2 is missing the Swamp camp equivalent. Same with Risen.
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>>741138014
...wait, what do the swamp campers even eat?
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>>741138014
Some one has to grow the weed, and harvest the weed, and process the weed... You can't just hang around and do nothing in the swamp camp
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new camp is easy to get around and you know where you are at all times but it takes long to get the fuck in and out
old camp is annoying because once you gain access to the castle there's no back entrance for a quick shortcut to the southern gate
swamp camp is the easiest for shortcuts but you get lost all the fucking time, map is a requirement
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>>741138058
They trade weed with other camps in exchange for food.
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>>741138058
root soup
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>>741138058
There are SO FUCKING MANY ANNOYING CRITTERS INCLUDING THE CONSTANTLY AGGROING GIANT SWAMPSHARKS FUCK THEM IN PARTICULAR around the Swamp camp, I don't think they complain about the lack of food.
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>>741138081
I find it incredible that almost 100 hours of gameplay later, I still frequently get lost in the swamp camp whenever I try to look for Cor Angar's platform.
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>>741137592
Found him but goddamn, fifty in advance? these loons have jewish blood in them.
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>>741138074
>You can't just hang around and do nothing in the swamp camp
You absolutely can, only the Nameless is shown to go around beat up lazy people unlike the other two camps.
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>>741119092
old camp is full of retarded low iq bandits
new camp is full of retarded low iq bandits, some of them are total bros
swamp camp is full of retarded low iq junkies
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>>741137479
Nostalgia mod gives the beliar rune some interesting spell that change depending on your circle
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THIS YEAR
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>>741138143
>100 hours
damn are you doing multiple playthroughs?
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>>741138189
well NoTR does that as well
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>>741138189
That's baseline NOTR.
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>>741138143
I managed it after learning to orient myself based on the Temple

>>741138232
>>741138262
my bad but those spells are pretty dope though
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>>741138214
Will it improve (read: rewrite from scrap) the main quest?
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>>741138226
Yes, actually, I've done the entirety of chapter 2 three times trying to figure out which camp had my favorite armor before continuing on to chapter 3.

Yes, I'm also aware I'm totally going to end up swapping out of this armor sooner than later. Don't fuck with my autism.
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>>741138081
>swamp camp is the easiest for shortcuts but you get lost all the fucking time, map is a requirement
Not really. It's really easy once you realize the route shown by lester the first time is a retard trap and everything is more easily accessible if you go left at the entrance, toward the temple. You also have directions to all the important facilities on wooden plaques everywhere.
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Anybody know where to find the chain lightning rune?
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>>741138164
You get 600 ore if you sell the entire harvest to Cipher instead of giving it to Kalom, it's well worth it
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She'll be back in a sequel.
Let me dream.
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i swear to fucking beliar. i am about to start fucking murdering these cunts.

ian, lester, the whole fucking job lot of them are beginning to piss me off.

>oh go get me a cog maybe its in... a side uh... tunnel maybe?
>oh, you got it, fuck you NO anyway NEENER NEENER

>don't mind me, i will totally leave the mine altogether even though i said to gather the templar goons at the collapsed bit of tunnel.


do these retards not know I can kill them in one fucking hit now? fucks sakes, IAN should at least not be a cunt, since this is like, the fourth time I've punched his stupid dickless lights out.
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>>741138327
Old camp armour looks sharp but needs to have some fucking colour like the merc one does
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>>741138327
I'm on 50 hours and already thinking of fucking resetting this shit
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>>741138342
>giving it to Kalom
why would anyone does this
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>>741138404
old camp is most practical, chain over leather arming hose and jacket, then some plates over that.
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>>741136730
you dropped this king
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erm.... secret?
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>>741138425
Maybe your wanna join the camp, and pissing off the gurus by stealing their weed isn't a good idea if you wanna stay at the camp
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>>741137153
>Eurojank soul filters Farquaad
BLESSED GAME
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>>741138480
Is this loss?
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>>741138530
>and
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>>741138143
I decided against learning the map and instead went with randomly running around until I find what I want
It's easier this way lmao
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>>741137479
They need to make the claw a late game weapon, not a chapter 2 Uriziel
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>>741138425
xp points mostly, ore isn't really an issue
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>>741137748
on this topic:
>clear the troll ruins with milten
>'uh you go ahead NH, I'll uh... stay around and study these ruins for a bit... uh... interesting magical traces something something...'
>all while being deathly afraid of these ruins an hour earlier
>immediately stands by and studies a fresh harpy corpse with its legs spread, pretending to be disintrested while awkwardly waiting for me to leave
bro i get it you want some necro cloaca action while it's still warm, i'm not gonna judge just be honest
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>>741138081
>once you gain access to the castle there's no back entrance for a quick shortcut to the southern gate
climb the battlement and just weedfall off the back of the broken tower
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>>741138820
Nah, it was perfect to help you transition to the Valley of Mines which was hard as fuck, and once you outgrew it there you found better waepons. It's just that if you are a mage and don't have 2h you're fucked. Cuz that weapon sucks as a rune.
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>>741138742
There are signs to the important facilities everywhere in the swamp camp.
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>>741138327
>>741138418
same actually, but now I'm bent on either joining old camp or weed camp
old camp pros
>better armor
>lets me level up dex a bit so I can pick pockets of few diggers
cons
>in gothic 2 I will play militia which fucking sucks
>no magic
weed camp pros
>I can play spellsword
>best looking camp
>lets me try out nostalgic edition for G2 and play without guild for max immersion
cons
>no dex
>armors are pretty ass in remake
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>>741138895
Does it? 3 shots an ork with the Beliar lightning which isn't bad for a mage at that lvl
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>>741137634
>defending woke censorship
You're already dead, rajesh, lie still.
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>>741138480
t moor
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>>741138895
It's literally the best melee weapon until the very end, when the undead dragon forces you to use something else.
I hate the claw and give it to saturas every single time just because it completly destroys the balance otherwise.
It makes the cool guild weapons completly obsolete. Why spend six million gold to upgrade your paladin sword or learn how to forge a sword from pure ore and dragonblood when they're all worse than the claw?
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>>741138976
that's why i said if you turn it into a rune spell, as a sword it's great
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>Y'Berion has a swampy sex slave
>she sounds like this woman
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIv3cwwofPQ
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>>741138851
He made me seethe so much that I killed the troll myself in a fit of rage. Okay it took 8 attempts but still.
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>>741139069
no it's not because at a certain point it's not worth sacrificing your HP pool to keep upgrading it, you are literally nerfing yourself. And you can find equal or better weapons without doing that. Plus you wouldn't have what to do with the learning points if you keep the Claw. It's only good for the first half of Chapter 2 then i ditched it every time, plus the XP you get from ditching it is great.
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>tfw I'm the only one that likes the templar armor
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Warder 2H -> Water mage is my plan
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>>741139076
I meant the rune also calls down lightning on an ork from a distance and never thought it was bad in my mage runs
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>>741139084
She's not there to talk, anon.
And you don't talk with your mouth full. It's rude.
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>>741136915
>thief master chest in G2
That shit was nightmarishly hard even with the old and simple lockpicking.
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>>741139225
True but did they have to cast someone who sounds like a slaaaaaaag?
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>>741139307
for some reason that one was very memorable for me, I still could do like half of it from memory despite playing 2 last time 10 years ago
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>>741139307
It's like 30 combinations, the only lock to actually make me take notes
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>>741139192
I like it too but there is something off about the proportions when NH wears it
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Are rolling, diving, climbing skills even worth it?
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>>741139427
>>741139439
I might be a tryhard retard but I refused to take notes and carved it into my memory with grueling effort. I lost precious childhood memories to make space for that.
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>>741139509
yes to all
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Should I wait until the eventual G2 remake that's obviously going to come out because this was successful enough, or jump into G2 NotR? I heard the expansion makes it a lot more difficult and that it's not worth playing it without the expansion.
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>>741139509
Athletics is worth just for fall damage mitigation, others not so much
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>restart on gothic again
>all enemies I was dying a lot on first playthrough now I effortlessly rape
uhhh they didn't nerf things right?
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>>741139439
>It's like 30 combinations
It's less than 20, don't be such a fag.
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>>741139509
>rolling
Yes it's great for combat
>diving
Yes it lets you find secret items like stat increasing potions
>climbing
Again yes, it allows you to find great loot like a unique armor AND it's needed for some side quests
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>>741139509
At least diving is cool for exploration purposes. Rolling is whatever really, I still get my shit handed to me and it doesn't allow me to move much faster. There's many climbable places too, it feels like you actually need that one.
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>>741139567
You should experience the og and from what I can tell the Nostalgia Mod tones the difficulty of NotR down a bit.
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>>741139589
Gothic difficulty is the new easy mode. The remake added too many useful things for things to stay hard in Gothic mode.
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>>741139567
I would say just play the NotR now. The developement of the G2 remake might take fucking YEARS, because it's a much bigger game than G1.
And yeah, NotR is MUCH harder than G2 and even G1, but at this point it feels wrong playing without it. Also, most releases come with NotR in a bundle by default.
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>>741138480
It's their community manager name
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>>741139567
>it's not worth playing it without the expansion.
Complete nonsense.
Play without it if you are (rightfully) concerned of getting filtered by NOTR on you first time around.
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>>741139646
I played all of the OG by 2009 or so
Will try that nostalgia mod
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>>741139684
yeah I'm thinking about restarting again but on custom where I set enemies on hard and rest on gothic
I don't like getting less experience and new economy system already makes gaining nuggies slower
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>>741138480
>Remake made in Barcelona, highly populated by T's and moors
Hmmmm
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>>741139509
Yes to all. Rolling is fantastic for combat, and you get the side benefits of mobility. Diving is just a really nice qol thing that will make underwater sections much simpler, even if not necessary (absolutely necessary if you plan on opening any underwater chests). And climbing gives access to unique loot, the actually valuable kind. You gotta explore for it though, most of the walls you find are just shortcuts.
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>>741139693
>Also, most releases come with NotR in a bundle by default.
Steam and I think also GoG give you a gold edition, so no expedition
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>>741139567
If you thought g1/remake was still hard after first two chapters (i.e. you're retard) then play vanilla g2
Notr isn't that hard and all its additions are good
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>>741139857
Gold Edition is vanilla + NotR.
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>>741139757
I know what you mean but I don't like how you can solo everything by chapter 3, so I keep progression on hard now.
Mage build is fucked though
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>>741139931
good that I don't plan to play mage in gothic anymore
robes are ass and spamming 2 spells through entire game is bad too, both in 1 and 2
being a spellsword is pretty kino and that's all magic I plan to dip into, pure mage was always CBT
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>>741138983
Saaar open bob saaaar!!! Butiful woman
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>>741139926
Well the launcher gives you an option without it
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why the fuck would you play without NoTR?
>muh difficulty
if 8 years old me could clear it, without even paying attention to levelling system then everyone can
there is literally nothing hard there except maybe changed dragons because I still have no idea how to avoid their attacks
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>>741140254
8 year old you used bmarvinb
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>>741140254
I never understood it either, Jharkendar is peak comfy kino
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>>741140296
nope I used that later on to quickly move around map when I had already 20 playthrough behind me
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>goblins throw a homing rock
fuck you
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>>741140827
No wonder Milten got mugged by them, those robes are made from paper
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>>741140827
>troll throws a goblin at you who then throws a rock at you followed up by the troll throwing a boulder at you
kino
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>>741140827
just wait until you meet golems, they throwingeven bigger homing rocks
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>obligatory underwater fucking lockpicking
hehe epic :D
uninstalled
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>>741141164
>obligatory
Never happened.
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I killed 30+ goblins for this and there's nothing worth awhile here lol
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>>741141239
You get send on a quest here. The chest only spawns if you have the quest however.
But the goblins' weapons are worth a lot of money.
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>>741141238
the faggot Myxir tells you to dive for some shit in the wreck
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>>741141164
this remake of a 25 year old rpg still filters casuals the old way
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>>741141318
>quest locked exploration area
THIS FUCKING SUCKS
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>>741140827
This is why despite what some threads on /v/ would have you believe ALL goblins are to be killed on sight.
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>>741141409
>go to place
>nothing there
>meet quest giver
>"so her, I lost my macguffin in the goblin cave this morning, can you get it for me?"
You went to that cave 3 days ago anon, of course the macguffin wasn't there at that point.
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>>741141319
No one forces you to join the mercenaries. And that chest can be opened without learning diving anyway.
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>>741141595
In this specific case, the questgiver lost a book quite a while ago though, most likely long before our nameless hero got thrown into the colony.
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>>741141541
And around the blacks, never relax
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>>741140827
13% of goblins commit 52% of lethal rock atacks
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>>741141732
The other 87% were killed by me
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>>741141614
who said anything about learning diving you slav retard
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the combat would work way better if the devs got rid of the excessive DS2 tier tracking and taught enemies how to telegraph attacks instead of half of that shit coming out instantly
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>>741141595
The OG allowed to get the Almanac on your own whenever you wanted.
Why did they feel the need to change this?
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>>741141923
The spaniards want their scripted event with Talas and Milten
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>all the goyimericans getting culture shocked by europeak
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>>741138480
https://steamcommunity.com/id/t-moor/
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Gomez did nothing wrong
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>>741142395
There is no proof that Gomez knew about the murder of the firemages
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>>741141239
Welcome to the club and you will visit that place again. Hopefully without the hellspawn you just obliterated.
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>warders are second or third most rich and best living people in colony
>they just sleep in barracks
I don't know, I just don't feel like they actually get anything from being in old camp other than being free to bully diggers
shadows maybe don't get to mug diggers but at least they have their own huts and little businesss
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>>741142560
At least the castle barracks are dry unlike the huts on top of a swamp or the moldy cave dwellings.
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>>741142560
honestly I'd prefer a bed in the barracks over a shitty hut in the old or new camp
and the swamp camp? just trying to sleep in that humid place is a nightmare
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>>741142494
The fire mages attacked first.
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>>741142494
There is even that moment, where tired Raven said to the Nameless Hero: "I did a horrible thing, but Gomez's name will remain unsullied".
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>>741142752
Enjoy your 0 privacy, enjoy your snoring, enjoy the constant smell of unwashed men.
Sounds like hell.
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>>741112228
>THQ closed down the original developer of Gothic
Well, I guess I will just have to pirate this game.
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It's hard to take a swamper's bad mood seriously when so many of them are usually half monged before breakfast
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>>741143118
PB hadn't developed a good game since Risen 1, putting them out of their endless stagnation was a mercy kill.
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>>741125941
Cavalorn teaches you taking furs for free in act 5 if you bring him the book on Xardas' table. But by then you probably can't even be bothered to trade anything except two-handers which sell for 500+ ore each.
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>>741143173
Elex is great though.

>b-but it was too hard
Get gud.
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>>741142815
>bear
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>>741114531
Skyrim feels more like an actual RPG
Don't know how it compares to BG3 since all the characters in that one looked kinda gay
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>>741143328
>Skyrim feels more like an actual RPG
what
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>>741143173
Risen 3 is fine and the first ELEX serviceable.
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>>741142395
6 hundred fire mages? Those numbers don't make sense
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>>741143173
I kind of agree. ELEX 1 was okay, but Risen 1 was their last great game.
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>>741143118
PB had it coming
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>>741143328
>Skyrim feels more like an actual RPG
your'e polish arent you
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Elex had waifus. They were lame and ugly, but god, did I miss waifus in a Gothic-like game.
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>>741143684
Nobody in Poland cares about Skyrim.
t. Pole
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>>741143714
Based.
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>>741143764
but only poles are retarded enough to have some alternative reality

when entire world says the sky is blue a pole says it's actually green and calls you a leftist
you are truly retarded
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>>741143841
You're a leftist. And retarded.
And fuck you, my sky is green just out of my sheer spite towards you.
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>>741143118
Based.

I bought Elex and Elex 2, so fuck THQ Nordic. They won't get another cent from me.
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LMAO at how there isnt a single important female character in the entire series, even that thieves guild bitch is completely optional and has only 3 quests
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>>741119092
old camp: we're former criminals turned criminals
new camp: we're former criminals turned criminals, praise adanos
weed camp: we're former criminals turned retards
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>>741143308
>Elex is great
>sci-fi
Great at sucking cock
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>>741119092
old camp: we have given up
new camp: we're gonna get out even if the plan sounds retarded
swamp camp: this totally not evil god will surely save us, let's get high brother
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>>741144095
>bought Elex 2
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>>741143382
I'm trying to unpack it because the idea infuriates me but I actually can't argue against that anon.
Skyrim has more build variety, more skills to level up, more world-affecting story choices (not a high bar to clear in either case), a character creator, more freedom of where you want your story to take you, and veeeeeery slightly more numbers based combat. Like, minimally, but still. Goes to show that fitting better into a genre's definition doesn't mean you're the better game though.

And BG3 is certainly more of an rpg than both, by a mile.
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>>741144179
Friendly reminder that in Gothic 1, females weren't even considered "human" as per the game logic. They were "creatures", like orcs and scavengers. It only got fixed in G2, where you actually got to interact with them.
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>>741144179
>there isnt a single important female character in the entire series
Fake fan.
Thekla is more important than King Rhobar II.
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>>741144450
>It only got fixed in G2, where you actually got to interact with them.
wtf?! old G2 was WOKE
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>>741143118
And thank god they did, or they'd produce something even worse than Elex 2 and I don't think that's possible.
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>>741144450
>They were "creatures", like orcs and scavengers
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>>741135190
Why are so many anons bad at mugging?
Wait until they go to sleep: no/less witnesses and you can get in free hits.
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>>741144378
>old camp: we have given up
That's the King's answer and total capitulation after receiving the demands from Gomez.
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>>741144450
>females weren't even considered "human" as per the game logic
omega based
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>>741144179
>there isnt a single important female character in the entire series
Nadja is right there
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>>741117885
Can you join the swamp camp?
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>>741143661
Embracer and Deep Silver are cunts and coincidentally many of their games are buggy and unfinished so there's probably some truth to the "the publisher forced us to release an unfinished game" narrative, but Elex 2 and now Cralon show that Björn's head is too far up his own ass.
Neither of those two games could have been fixed by just a bit more polishing.
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Still early in the game and I have combat mostly down. But how do you deal with wolves? I guess you have to upgrade your dodge because the one you start with is too slow.
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still undecided which camp to join honestly
i just want a comfy big armor, unkillable, oneshot everything
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>>741144517
I keep hearing elex 2 being really bad. how is it worse than first elex which I would rate as high as 6/10? I only saw the teaser for elex 2 and thought it looked so gay I put it completely off my radar.
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>you can still beat up Scar and loot him for the best one-handed sword and crossbow in the game
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>>741144179
>female girlboss questgiver
Woke game baka
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>>741144697
Animals are best dealt with using bows
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>>741144697
Yeah, dodging them without the upgrade is very hard, especially that 0 wind-up time gap closing dash they sometimes do. Unless you can two shot them after the opening jump attack they usually do or do have the dodge upgrade I would avoid them.
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>>741143118
It never made sense to me that Piranha Bytes wasn't involved in the development at all. And then they just shut them down after Elex 2 was released. lol

Fuck 'em.
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>>741144736
leave Marvin ALONE
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>>741133123
The 1xp is somehow more insulting than if it gave nothing.
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>>741143118
Gothic Remake is censored, so you shouldn't buy it anyway. Ignore the marketing clowns ITT and spend your cash on something else.
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>>741145017
>WAH WAH NO GOONING MATERIAL WAH
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>>741144179
They had a great reason for that in G1, but then you go to G2 and the only females you interact with are cooks and whores and the single thief guildmaster.
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>>741119092
Old Camp lures you in with the promise of well equipped guards, tall walls, steady food supply, convinces you the other camps are inhabited by assholes and loons respectively and you won't find any place better than Old Camp, then starts springing the protection rackets, the beatdowns if you don't pay, the reveal that you'll never reach the top and eat anything but scraps or sleep anywhere but in a flimsy shack, and that you'll always be Gomez's bitch.

New Camp is composed by everyone who read the previous description and said "Hell fucking no". They then proceeded to do much of the same, tying the ones who didn't know or weren't willing to fight to either the mines or the rice fields. However, despite this, what they promise is actually worth it, as they're actually trying to get out instead of just facilitating Gomez's life of luxury, and their higher ups are genuinely stand up people.

Swamp Camp is people blatantly unable to cope with the awfulness of the situation and the fact both of the other camps aren't exactly welcoming, so they cope with religion and get taken advantage of by the first supernatural being to come around and offer salvation. Despite the camp generally having genuinely nice people, you just know most of them are one bad day away from snapping and getting violent, and there's no fucking way their "plan" to get out, if you can even call it that, would ever work.
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>>741144697
Mobs attack in the exact same pattern every time. Wolves are a jump lunge and then a short snap, not sure about after that but it's going to be the same pattern every time. Not saying it's easy to dodge, I know I get nabbed by them still. But they are predictable.
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>>741144969
Yep and it tracks perfectly with everything else about Mud
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so after Gomez pranked mages epically I joined the New Camp is it worth it to uprgade their armor or should I stay with my fully uprgaded old camp one?
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I know you can join the Water Mages as both a Mercenary and a Warder/Fire Mage, but can you do it as a Templar?
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whats the exploit to get he best armor and weapons in game
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>>741145017
>>741143118
It has niggers as well.

Don't buy this wokeslop. Pirate it if you have to.
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>>741145059
And then Gothic 3 has exactly three women you can interact with and all of them are slaves you gift to a rich arab.
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>>741145207
You can only see 75% of the sex slave labia, I think I became a communist playing this propaganda.
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>>741138327
Imagine not getting the fully upgraded guard armor. Couldn't be me
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>>741145101
The only difference in the camp armors is the aesthetic one.
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>>741144837
PB wasn't interested in remaking Gothic or make any new Gothic games. Or at least so Pankratz claims, but that man was desperatly in love with his baby Elex. Some say that there were plenty of PB people that wanted to do a new Gothic, but Pankratz forced Elex through instead.
Either way THQ is probably not a fault here. And honsetly, do you really want the people that shat out Elex 2 working on a new Gothic?
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>>741144727
Basically:
1. Visuals are worse and the game runs much worse, hell I doubt it runs much better than the fucking G1 remake, that's how shit it was
2. More factions but most are cucked and undercooked
3. The most retarded story you can possibly think of, regarding the main character's kid and his wife nagging him being a stupid fucking bitch
4. Combat completely trivialized by range weapons, you find one and the difficulty isn't there anymore
5. Main character sounds like a whiney bitch now, trying to show a range of emotions for no good reason
6. Took longer to come out and a much higher budget, but it's less polished (half that budget probably went to an ingame Billy Idol concert, I'm not shitting you)
7. Most companions behave the fucking same
8. I can only remember one elaborate quest in the whole entire game, the rest is cookie cutter shit
9. The world isn't worth exploring, all you find everywhere is gems
10. The latter half of the main quest is "kill 15 of this" or "kill 30 of that" several times in a row just to make you feel like you're wasting your fucking time
The only things I can think of they improved on it were character progression, where they managed to make a system where permanent stat boosts from items were separate so you didn't have to hoard shit, the jetpack was a little bit more maneuverable and the non "just shotgun everybody" combat wasn't as bland as elex 1, but the rest is actual legitimate dogshit. It is honestly like they wnet into it thinking "well we have this formula that only we provide, let's make the worst game possible with this formula so people get sick of it already".
I am very, very glad what was left of PB died. I'm not saying Alkimia is highly competent and their additions to the remake are not the best (retarded lockpicking and economy systems) but I'd trust these people more than the punk rat couple.
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>>741145157
no, the Swamp camp never properly kicks you out
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can you still get gomez's key??
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>>741145325
It looks great but you could also really use some colour.
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>>741138058
Ze bugs and veggies
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>>741145346
Yes. Elex 2 is actually much better than most open world games out there, despite it's problems. You'd probably know that if you would have played it, marketing cuck.
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>>741145451
Nah elex 1 was alright, risen 1 was very good
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work done. time for some gothic
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>>741145451
Elex 2 was horrendous dogshit. Are you Björn or something?
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>>741145451
It's not even better than Risen 2.
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>>741145432
Eh, I tried. I messed with the settings for like half an hours before I realized I was never happy with them and just said fuck it
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>>741144727
My opinion:
>dogshit performance (probably not so grave with modern hardware)
>"""cinematic""" camera in melee that constantly zooms in and out to make combat look cool but it's just annoying
>German dub was very bad, everyone speaks unnaturally slowly as if they had brain damage
>bugs like perks that do absolutely nothing they claim to do (maybe they fixed that later, they surely didn't with the first few patches they released)
>retarded faction retcons, berserkers and outlaws merged into one faction, albs and clerics merged into one, morkons are ultra edgelords and the lore explanations for all those changes sounded were half-assed non-sense
I watched some making of videos and the voice acting was this retarded on purpose. There was a scene where the VA spoke normally and the cunt in the studio said "we need another take, this time not so fast!" so this wasn't some mistake, they actively made it shit and thought it was good which was probably the case for many bad design decisions in the game.
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>>741145346
Didn't PB literally lost the rights to Gothic to JoWood? Hence Arcania being made by a completely different studio and PB was stuck coping with Risen?
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>people actually defending elex and the hollow shell of later PB
bro Björn get the fuck out of the thread and make your shitty dungeon crawler with your hoe of a wife (her music is fucking trash btw)
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>>741145698
>>German dub was very bad, everyone speaks unnaturally slowly as if they had brain damage
Last patch improved it, theres a mod that further improves it
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>>741145701
Yeah, but they got them back around the time they made Risen 3. Which is why that game has a bunch of Gothic stuff like scavengers.
They could have gone for a new Gothic after Risen 3, but well, Pankratz forced Elex on the studio instead and then it died.
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>>741145661
Sorry I meant the armour itself should have colour like the Merc one, we all know UE is unsalvageable when it comes to aesthetics
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>>741145805
Thanks for the info, that was my biggest gripe.
Maybe it's worth a retry.
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You know, I actually liked Elex 1. Sure, it wasn’t a masterpiece or anything, but I loved exploring the world, wandering through ancient ruins, doing quests, and meeting the different factions, even if I wouldn’t exactly call any of them original.
Then Elex 2 came out, and I was genuinely excited. I thought that if they improved on everything from the first game, they could end up with something really good. But lo and behold, Elex 2 released, and somehow none of the things that were already decent improved at all. With a story that is somehow like 100 times worse and barebones and that just completly falls appart in the middle. To this day, it’s the only PB game I haven’t finished, and honestly, I think I had a much more fun time with Forsaken Gods.
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Is full on melee "if I manage to touch you you're fucking dead" viable in this game?
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>>741146119
100%
In fact the only thing more viable is archery because Alkimia forgot to add proper defense stats against it
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>>741145871
Oh, I see. Yeah, I guess I kinda see what you are saying. But honestly, for me, it’s 100% the demon face that makes it a dozen times cooler.
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>>741145868
>they got them back around the time they made Risen 3
I remember even being excited about it like they were reverting into a good position. Hell sometimes I think of replaying that one, it wasn't "bad" just not on par with their best releases. Which is a lot better than fucking Elex 2.
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>>741146069
Same. I thought Elex was okay, not the greatest game ever but I felt like they were back on track.
"Surely Elex 2 will improve on that and we're back to Gothic/Gothic 2 quality", but they fucked it up completely.
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>>741146205
I see. So a strong warder with a big dick of death is viable...
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>>741145059
>>741145291
Based
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>>741144697
Overhead swing, when timed correctly, interuots theur lunge attack. Orherwise, uppercut swing with a mace is good cuz it knocks them down. Get "trained" lvl in one-handers ASAP, it improves everything, including blocking.
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>>741146069
Elex 1 was decent, sure it had problems but it had enough good parts to make them worth putting up with. After Elex 1 I was hopeful that PB could make good games again.
And then Elex 2 arrived and was just worse in most aspects
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>>741146052
Get a key for like 25 bucks
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>>741146248
Shadowbeast face on the armor does make it that much cooler



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