>To break even, the game might need to sell around 5.7 million copiesWhy is it so expensive?The graphics aren’t much better than the G5’s, yet the cost is astronomical.I doubt it’ll ever break even.GEARS OF WAR is long outdated.Plus, there’s a transgender woman in it.Players will only buy a month of XGP to play it.I’ll just download pirated copies; I’m not going to pay to see an ugly woman.https://wolfsgamingblog.com/2026/06/13/gears-of-war-e-day-reportedly-has-a-staggering-400-million-budget/
>>741140308haven't like the last 4 gears games sucked and undersold? how many more chances do you get
>>741140308Still less than $2B that one swede got for infiniminer clone
>>741140308>why is it so expensive?There's at least 400 core developers that had to be paid over the last 7 years plus all the external support roles that could easily add another 1,500 people
>>741140308>>741142119The west can't into self-efficiency like Capcom and Nintendo.
There is always a correlation in how much devs a game has and how much its going to suck
it's ok, 13 billion people will play it for free on game pass money well spent
>>741142119>another 1,500 people That's ridiculous. How many developers were there during G3?300?
>>741142207the monkey paw is ready to curl with the advent of ai
>400 million dollars for a prequel to a game that is over 20 years old and already has assets for everything
kill me
I just hope it's popular. It looked really fucking fun. Did they say anything about horde mode? Is it in? 3 horde mode is some of the most fun I've ever had
>>741142790>and already has assets for everythingGood news: to make this prequel,Gears Studio is remaking all the assets in the game.I mean, all of the assets.That’s cool, but it’s completely unnecessary.It’s just a waste of money and time.
>>741142495According to the credits, 533 people in totalhttps://www.mobygames.com/game/52918/gears-of-war-3/credits/xbox360/
>>741143462>533 peopleOkay, so it turns out that extravagance is just part of their tradition.There's absolutely no way E-Day will break even.
>>741143151But why would they do that? And how the hell did some exec at Microsoft approve it?
>>741143731>But why would they do that?Phil Spencer, I guess.Only he would greenlight a project with such absurd costs.Just like how he convinced Microsoft’s CEO to spend nearly $80 billion to acquire Activision Blizzard.
>>741142119>7 yearsWhat? That can't be right.>Gears of War 5 was release in 2019The fuck is happening to time?
>>741140308>AAA budget is a zillion dollars and there's no way this will break evenWow you don't say, its almost like people have been warning the AAA model was unsustainable for 20 goddamn years.Shame cause the game looks good, but putting that much money into a single product is just not good business. I mean, you can just ask Sony.
>>741140308>last installment of dudebro shooter has a girlboss and flops>double down with a tranny character and greenlight it for $400 millionHow do these people have jobs?
>>741142790The best part is that absolutely NO ONE asked for a new GeOW game. Gears 5 killed the franchise.A war story, even more so a global war story, shouldn't have a main character.The odds of a soldier surviving a 17 year war, whilst having ties to major players in the scientific and strategic fronts of said war, where billions died within 24 hours and 99% of the population had died by the end of it are, literally, 1 in 25 billion.
>>741144246>>741144281>How do these people have jobs?I remember the reason was that Microsoft issued a direct order banning the inclusion of sexy women.Women had to be ugly, and they had to be black trans women.
>>741144439My point is that Marcus Phoenix should have died or at least there should have been more prominent characters in the war around the world.
>>741142790>and already has assets for everythingAre you suggesting that they use 7th gen models and textures in the big '26?
>>741140308>Plus, there’s a transgender woman in it.Thank you for the warning. Automatic skip for me.
>>741144472Don't @me with your culturewarslop, nigga.
>>741140308I plan on getting the gamepass for this and when I'm done with the game, deactivating gamepass.
>>741144546Seventh gen was as good as games needed to look and they didn't take the better part of a decade to make, I want to go back.
>>741140308>reportedly Is this a each employee costs $15k-$20k a week calculation?
>>741144615Why would you spend your time on something you wouldn't spend money on?
>>741144246AAA is sustainable though. It was sustainable for so fucking long. The only reason it stopped being sustainable was because of graphics quality being the number one selling point and how fun a game was took a complete backseat to a mandatory bullet point list of inclusive choices.Gaming is literally more profitable than ever for everyone that isn't a fucking retarded AAA dev studio and it has nothing to do with more polished titles being unsustainable
>>741144731>it was sustainable until it wasn't!So it was unsustainable.
Studios need to pay their employees less but pay them residuals after the game releases, it would solve a lot of issues>incentivizes smaller teams so the studio keeps a bigger percentage of the profits of the game>incentivizes employees to work more efficiently and make better games since the bulk of their payment comes after the game releases and is more proportional to its quality>incentivizes publishers to let games get to release and keep games available for sale after because if they don't they can get class actioned by everyone who worked on it
>>741144614>culturewarslopNo, it's true.
On one hand it sucks since the game might be at least decentOn the other fuck the coalition for mishandling the IP this hard, say all you want about Cliff Bazinga the guy at least had a clear idea of what to do with it. Almost makes me think this game saw the light of the day just so MS has an excuse to kill them.
>>741144903What's Cliffy B doing these days?
>>741144949Probably still seething that his Apex wannabe crashed and burned, other than that idk, dude might not even be making games anymore.
>>741144902Yes, its true. Its cultuwarslop. You're on one side of it, and they're on the other. I want both of you to shut the fuck up, as if I give a shit about some tertiary NPC being an 4/10 brown woman or skins for a shooter with 400 active users.
Good NewsMass Layoffs at Xbox Are About to Begin
>>741140308Those non conventionally attractive non binary women take a lot of money chuddie
>>741140308And all they have to show for is some run-of-the-mill TPS that plays like every other TPS in the last 30 years?
>>741144998We need some more $30 games, none of that $60 multiplayer only bullshit.
>>741144949>What's Cliffy B doing these days?retired to the cuckshed
>>741144793No you can't decide to not keep it sustainable and then complain it isn't sustainable anymore. That's like crying that the car won't start but you refuse to turn the fucking key. They already know what works, they have decades of knowledge of things working.I refuse to say that AAA gaming now HAS to be hundreds of millions of dollars, 5+ years and 1000+ employees and then have people say that this proves AAA doesn't work.There is a far more significant and unstable problem happening.AAA will ultimately just return to how it was before, with games like E33 alongside giants every so often who are the one in a hundred who turn their 400 million into billions and everything else will die.
>>741144949Probably prompting ChatGPT to generate a few billion-dollar ideas for him to pitch.
>>741145002>, as if I give a shit about some tertiary NPC being an 4/10 brown woman or skinsOkay, okay, you love ugly trans women.Then go buy a Microsoft game.
>>741145040This is why I think the OP numbers are false. All they did was add slide and jump. Everything else looks the same.
>>741140308I started finally playing the original gears of war after the e day reveal and finishing up some other backlog from the way, and im actually baffled at how good it is after witnessing AAA turn into more and more deified gay storyslop for the entirety of my teens and adult yearsSickdark badass dudebro macho shit thats entirely focused on the gameplay and actually does it well/ isnt even braindead easy is a breath of fresh air at this point
>>741140308Just call it emergence day.. e day sounds gay
I've only played the first Gears game back on the 360 before the sequel was even announced. It didn't have any progression mechanics at all. You just ran from cover using the same few weapons for the full duration of the game.Has the series added anything of substance, or is this all it is to this day?
>>741145208Go stand in front of a train, you worthless shit-stirring Indian.
>>741144472Ive never seen any actual evidence of any of these ugly on purpose claims. It's a years long narrative built on trust me bro
>>741145401>Has the series added anything of substance
>>741145584>Ive never seen any actual evidence of any of these ugly on purpose claims.Yes, it's all fake.So just buy Microsoft's.
>>741145757I believe "of substance" means actual gameplay related stuff. The virtue signalling stuff people obsess over is unrelated
>>741146049Well how horny video game characters make me was never a deciding factor in my buying games either way, thats juvenile, but thanks for confirming my suspicion
>>741144546AI upscaling could've made them serviceable
>>741140308Unironically, seeing a game have a huge budget makes me want to buy it less. Like they should be punished for being this retarded/arrogant with their budgeting that something that would have cost maybe 40 million 10 years ago has ballooned 10x in price
>$400 Million Budgetoh wowee zowee ding dang bow wow, holy heckarino! what a conundrum!!that’s like, what…um, not even a monthly earning from their current Gamepass subscribers??? wow! the cost is priced in you silly goose, and the sheer amount of consoles and new unique Gamepass subscriptions this title will bring in alone?yeah, don’t sweat it kid
Yo, whatever XBOX representatives shill on this board. There isn't a single chance this is making $400 million back. This isn't me trying to demoralize you, but trying to warn you against losing hundreds of millions... again.
>implying this won’t crack $1 billion in sales within the first week or twoLMAO, nice try, Snoy
>>741146343A $40M budget would have seen absurd to any AAA dev in 2006.The inability of most people to think exponentially is one of the most egregious self-inflicted wounds of mankind.
>>741144439There was nothing wrong with Marcus being the main character, although the main character was always the Delta Team. The problem the game was made to last a trilogy and if they wanted to keep it running they should have been extremely careful with introducing new characters. Keeping Marcus in the core team came from the little faith in the new team (for a good reason). Straight shooters went out of fashion and would require a complete overhaul like what Doom or God of War did.Gears is simply incompatible with newer mandates so just like Disney who failed to create new heroes Xbox retreated into ye olden times in the hope they can milk nostalgia. Of course it is very likely they will try to weasel shit into that as well.
>One day in the not so distant future we'll have a trillion dollar flopI'm getting excited
>>741146691Yeah its called SpaceX.
>>741146691unironically might be GTA VI, the world has moved on and them skipping PC Day One is gonna bite them in the ass big time, nobody owns a console everyone is on PC
>>741146774>nobody owns a console everyone is on PCYou are living in another world.
Just a reminder:Concord cost $400 million to make.So it’s no surprise that Gears of War: E-Day also cost $400 million.This stupid game took 7 years to make.
>>741146774I don't think VI will fail, but I am expecting a Starfield-esque moment where normgroids finally catch-up to the fact that R* games fucking suck.
>guessiemessies are now "news"Kill /v/
>>741140308Marketing used to half of western AAA's budget. Now it's 40% marketing, 50% payouts and bonuses to CEOs and shareholders, and 10% for all the lima beans to give to the 5000 indian coders to brute force development.
I remember that Call of Duty: Cold Warwas originally supposed to be a “Vietnam” game developed by Sledgehammer.But for some unknown reason, Sledgehammer went through massive layoffs.This forced Treyarch and Raven Software to take over the mess.In the end, Cold War cost a fucking $500 million.But I actually really like Cold War—it’s a cool game.https://www.polygon.com/news/504702/call-of-duty-black-ops-cold-war-development-costs-700-million/
>>741146815the mainstream image of a gamer now is no longer a console and couch gamer. It's a desktop PC, headphones, gaming chair, etc. Females, who are the epitome of mainstream because they won't hop on to any trend without it being "safe" to do so, prefer PC gaming culture.
>>741147262>Females, who are the epitome of mainstream because they won't hop on to any trend without it being "safe" to do so, prefer PC gaming culture.What makes console gaming culture not "safe"?
>>741140308Cause all the AI companies are jacking up prices so it's stopped being cheap to vibecode their slop
>>741140308another doa
>>741147172Oh, damn, it's $700 million.My God, games are so expensive these days.
>>741142790they remade everything since they are using UE5
>>741146727>>741146774Nah
>>741147324it's seen as a lower tier, cheap alternative to PC gaming. Women love playing dress up, and you're not officially a "gamer" until you have a pretty pc and desktop. Console gaming is seen as a 30-40 year old degenerate dudebro thing. And they're not wrong about that.
>>741140308Not buying slop with woman in squad
>>741144674Cause it's cheaper?
>>741147707Broke nigga.
>>741147859*Baroque nigga
>400 million>looks like the first 2 games all over again
>>741148271But that's what I want.
>>741147262It doesn't matter what you think the "image" is. Millions upon millions of people have modern consoles. And girls all have Switches, what are you talking about.
yet another imaginary self induced inorganic ‘TORtanic’ for /v/pol to self flagellate and interfere with themselves incessantly until and immediately following launchhow incredibly tiresome…E-Day will do well, extremely well, and life will go onmight as well delete this thread, it’s run its course
>>741140308https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1bJUSTTUDl8Cost-of-living for devs has skyrocketed and they won't just eat it like wagies.
>>741140308>xbox exclusivethey're not even gonna make half of that money back.This isn't 2006 anymore. No one owns an xbox and no one is gonna get one for this game. Gears of war hasn't been a thing for more than a decade.
>>741148697>they're not even gonna make half of that money back.The only way for Xbox to turn a profit is through massive layoffs.Microsoft has to do this because the Xbox division has become a liability.It just keeps wasting Microsoft’s money and churning out junk games that nobody wants.
>>741148697XBOX console sales are going to explode because of this and GTA VI, you are absolutely delusional
>>741148846>The only way for Xbox to turn a profit is through massive layoffs.>Rare goes back to Nintendobest timeline incoming
>>741144439I asked for a new one. Just sort of hoping they make up for 5's ending and a few story beats. And just 4. But hey, they have a better track record than halo. I'm liking what I see from E-day.
>>741148851>and GTA VIthat's a multiplat, there is no reason to get an xbox if you wanna play that.
>>741148902>>Rare goes back to Nintendo Donkey Kong 64 remake?
>>741140381>Gears UE - Gold standard of what a remake should do alongside MCC. Insanely good.>Gears 4 - Really good MP, really bad campaign, horde was ok.>Gears 5 - Ok MP bit casual, really bad campaign, PvE modes were fun.>Gears Tactics - Really fucking bad and boring. I never really like XCOM but there was so little customisation and enemies so you just fell back on the same tactics over and over again.The series is still good, I still look forward to next game and I guess Microsoft looks at games more like gamepass sellers than how they stand on their own. They’ve kinda turned into Netflix but for games.
>>741148902>>741149189None of the staff who worked on the N64 games are even there anymore so it would be pointless
>>741140308>Why is it so expensive?They probably hired a bunch of celebs, award winning writers, coupled with the mocap animations. That's all it takes.
>>741149246>Gears TacticsI've played that game.I don't hate it, but I'm baffled as to why it even exists.Who would have thought a Tactics game would sell well?
>>741145002Every time without fail.
>>741148591You don't understand they HAVE to live in a luxury highrise (where the poors can't reach them) in the most populous overcrowded city in the country
>>741140381>>741149246I liked Gears 4 campaign especially the part where you go down deep into the Earth to fight the swarm. Gears 5 was okay. Kinda woke, but just more or less boring. Gears Tactic is pretty much XCOM. Only play it if you liked XCOM. Stay away from Gears Reloaded. It ruined the art style and everything is ultra bright plus you can make Gears UE look better and more crisp.
>>741149930>they HAVE to live in a luxury highriseBut if they make a terrible game that nobody wants to buy, the company will start laying off employees.Don’t these people ever think that a terrible game could cost them their jobs?
I don't know how it escaped me for so long but in the recent showcase I realized that TC is Canadian, and then you see shit like this >>741144472 and it just makes sense why Gears has been dying.
>>741145185>>741144793More investment meant a higher return more often than not up until 6-7 years ago. Now they need to rethink the whole model on an industry level. Studios used to be smaller and development cycles used to be <2 years so a single failed game was 1/3 they would release that generation. Now a single game fails and the whole studio is disbanded because it took them a whole gen to make. I honestly don't know why these sub 300 dev games don't get made anymore when you see the stuff single devs and small indie studios can make these days. Yes, dev wages did increase, but someone must be skimming off the top for the thing to make sense.
>>741145430>Go stand in front of a train, you worthless shit-stirring Indian.Yes, I'm Indian.I've created your favorite DEI game for you.Please buy it, sir.
>>741150087I think I just didn’t like fighting robots and the fat fish things were really annoying to fight. I think I hated doing the hold this area bits in Gears 5 like 6000 times. I dunno what Gears reloaded is desu
>>741140381>>741140308It ended in G3, shit's a sad mosquito now
>>741142207AAA dev be like:>here's our pre-production team of 100 people who spend a year working on a pitch because if we don't show the old exec something resembling a beta they won't even greenlight>now we're in development with 300 people because more people = faster dev right? this will cost more than the annual GDP of a small african country>uh oh, things are taking longer than we thought because of the massive amount of communication from all these people. let's outsource some smaller parts overseas to our support studios!>uh oh! the support studios fucked up because of the language and time barrier. guess we'll have to wait for them to fix it>oh no! the game is taking too long. let's add another hundred developers and get a hatchetman in charge to finish the product>after 7 years we finally have a 7/10 game that cost $500 million dollars
And they rely completely on nostalgia farming boomers, good luck with that
>>741140308Coalition is also the Unreal R&D department. They have a team that don't work on games but just work on tools, shader techniques, metahumans etc. Definitely ate some of the budget but I'm not sure how much.
>>741149930Not their decision honestly, blame RTO.>>741150217They'll lose their jobs even if it's a screamig success that prints money. Only principals get to stay on, everyone else is laid off and invited to reapply.
>>741152791>They have a team that don't work on games but just work on tools, shader techniques, metahumans etc.The tech department is the only valuable part.Everyone else should be layoffs and left to starve.
The Gears audience of X360 dudebros has long sonce moved on. I don't know who they think it's for these days, but it must be a much smaller audience.
>>741153652What's your point, a franchise can't last lo ger than one generation? Do you apply the same logic to every other old ip?
>>741153948His point is that releasing a game for an audience that isn't there is retarded business, especially when it costs so much to make. Not every IP needs to continue forever. These companies should be investing in new IPs that are made to attract actual audiences that exist (which they should know of via market research).
>>741154805N'ah, we're still here and this is the game we were waiting for. t. 42 year
>>741149407>Our most iconic IP is Halo, an FPS>Our second most iconic IP is Gears of War, a TPS>Halo has a Sub-Series, Halo Wars, an RTS>Lets make a Sub-Series for Gears of War like that… Tactics game!Makes sense to me. What you should question is that Funko Gears game.
>>741155116Also, a Gears Tactics game was rumored to exist during the 360 era in Gears of War: Exile. Which turned out to be some Kinect type deal, which we only learned way later on.
>>741140381That’s why E-Day exists in the first place. They’re going back to the roots of the series so they can try to recapture what made it great in the first place. If it does well, we’re probably getting a full Prequel Trilogy.
Breechshot, my beloved…
>>741154805Why are you tieing Gears specifically to a specific point in time? As if only those who were in college in 2005 could like this game and no one else. Fuckin retard.
>>741156885Good for you but the game will need to sell ridiculous amount to make back the money it costs.>>741154889Just because you're a 40+ year old loser who don't understand that your college friends only cared about Gears for the multiplayer and have moved on to other games since then or out of gaming entirely doesn't make what I'm saying untrue. The only retard here is you trying to pretend as if the laws of supply and demand don't exist.
>>741140308>Waiting for trilogy remastered for years>Still release two fucking GoW 1 remastered only >Wasting on GoW game no one wantsWhat the fuck Microsoft is smoking ?
>>741157151Supply & Demand does exist. Gears of Wars players wanted this (demand). Microsoft cleared house at TC and now they're releasing something that looks like what has been demanded (supply).
TOTAL WESTERN UNEMPLOYEMENT
>>741157151It's a retarded take that only dude bros of the 2000s liked the game. Basic bitch opinion that's always coming from someone who hasn't played gears. Basically stfu
>>741140308Kek it's gonna suck so badIf anyone has tried Gears 5 would know how awful that shit is in MP and how bland it is in SP
>>741140308what a scam, this shit barely looks any different from the previous entries
>>741140381dont worry, the new CEO is an old, experienced white nerd, he knows what good games are and how to build them, and hires consequently. Xbax is saved
>>741140308Because the salaries of the veterans who are there for 15 years are already astronomical. And then they blindly hire a LOT of people to do their work and all the bureaucracy around current software development makes it extremely expensive. What is worse is that the game could even come out half-baked in some aspects.
>>741142207Capcom and Nintendo also pay for other studios to make stuff, but they pay then just enough to stay afloat and don't give them core development.
>>741145757I fucking hate 'then,' too. Women have no business in battle outside of being remote support, fuck the modern games industry and the fact that we'll have CUNTS acting like one of the boys but stronger and smarter in every game, you cant suspend your belief with that shit.
>>741157991Horde was awesome in 5
>>741140308Let me guess.They hired some celebrities and used a lot of mocap right?
I JUST WANT TO WALL BOUNCE NIGGA
>>741158958That's literally the last mechanics I want to ever experience again in gears. Fuck you. I'm glad its being gutted in E-day.
