You cannot consider yourself a fan of a video game if you've never actually played it.Watching a Let's Play is not playing the game.Watching a live streamer is not playing the game.Watching a video essay is not playing the game.Engaging with the fanbase is not playing the game.Gaming is a luxury, not a human right. If you can't afford it, consider something else.
>>741142934no
I fap to games I never played sue me
>>741145802Artisinal blast haver!
This, but I pirated everything.
>>741142934same for if you used a guide, then you did not in any sense play the game, get real
>>741142934so i guess you cant consider yourself a fan of a movie if you werent part of the cast or crew?
>>741146238retard
>>741146238You are impressively retarded
I miss David Lunch so much vros
honestly, it depends to what degree the game is just an excuse for story. Some games you can fully watch someone else play, and miss nothing.Japanese style adventure games are probably the epitome. There's almost no game there.
>>741146514He didn't make anything after season 3He's been dead for a decade
>>741142934The fact people deny this is nuts. Fucking hate tourists so much bros.
>>741142934While you can't be a fan (or a hater) without having played a game, you can absolutely hold an opinion on it based on that content alone. However, virtually no one is going to distinguish between liking what they see and being a fan, or between disliking it and being a hater.
>>741146795>you're basically dead if you retire after making your best workWhat a silly philosophy.
>>741142934The only video game I ever finished was Heelfall.
>>741142934I can beat him in a fight
>>741142934What if I hold you at gunpoint to finish the game for me?
>>741147025Unless you know him personally yeah he's basically deadHis work is the only thing you can miss
I have successfully recomended movies i have not seen but got the basic hist of it through YT shorts to friends and families, but have never been able to do so with a game
>>741146795>season 3 was almost a decade ago
>>741147232If you were part of my family I would have beaten you up then disowned you
>>741142934This but those that emulated and never experienced the real thing
>>741142934Whom did he fuck from the Twin Peaks cast
>>741145802This is based, though. There's nothing wrong with that.
>>741142934really the only major cope/excuse that can somewhat hold some water is:>"but we're poor!! we can't afford the consoles"especially with how expensive newer-gen consoles are getting, the middle-class people gets especially cut offyeah sure pirate all the games you want, but where do you even play those said games?
>>741147232BullshitTotal. Fucking. Bullshit
>>741147583All of them
>>741147747Nah its trueIt was the grand Budapest hotel, my mum loved it
>>741147583Jack Nance
>>741142934My beef with Lynch isn't with him, it's with his insufferable and talentless secondaries. Midwits apeing Lynch has done irreparable damage to the zeitgeist. I'm neutral at best with Lynch himself so the amateur shades of Lynch are heinous dogshit. I fear, just like with whedon, we're never escaping Lynch's influence. Endless shit tier nothingburgers like Alan Wake until the end of time. Lynchian shit is a western media trope just as tired and poorly executed as the stalest Japanese anime trope.
>>741146914It's bleak.
>>741148986Bleak as fuck, it's almost like my brain cannot accept someone having that as their opinion and I immediately assume I'm just being ragebaited when people defend it, because surely nobody is that retarded.
>>741147282I just rewatched FWWM for the umpteenth time last night. The ending gets me emotional every time, had me looking like Big Bobby B
>>741142934Posting on 4chan isn't playing either
>>741146223>games are made with the assumption the player will be using a guide>but using one is le bad
>>741142934I can be a fan of the graphics, sound design, OST, animations, narrative and artstyle even if I don't play it.
>>741152016can you be a fan of a movie if you only know of black and white still shots from that movie? can you be a fan of a book if you listen to a book review from your friend? can you be a fan of a show if you know the name of one of the actors in it?
>>741142934what about david cage games?
You cannot really consider yourself a fan of a videogame even if you did play it. Perhaps you didn't understand it or it didn't click you or perhaps you just saw it differently than I did.
>>741142934I just hate it when secondaries try to pretend like they know shit
Almost finished with the first Mana game on Gameboy.What should I play next?
>>741152513he makes movie games where you can impact the story, watching a stream or a youtube video will not give you the same story as if you made your own choices.
>>741152628Their overconfidence and likeminded secondaries validating it makes it insufferable
>>741146795I am gonna be the retarded vagueposter, but he did work on one very interesting thing.Unfortunately he died before it could really come to fruition.
>>741152016Then you are a fan of said videogame's graphics, not a fan of the videogame
>>741152003>games are made with the assumption the player will be using a guide??? no they are not. If that was the assumption the game would not have any tutorial stuff or slow beginning or big glowing weakspots on bosses
>>741153467That's exactly what I said, no need to repeat it.But you do have to agree that there's things we can enjoy about a game without necessarily playing it.
>>741142934"In overseas slang they call this a truth nuke, or truth nuclear bomb"
>>741142934The off the cuff examples are always things like undertale and funger, crpgs on the /vr/ side of things. Are secondaries even really a huge problem outside of RPGs and short ending hunting indie games?2hu is an immediate counterexample but still
>>741148986>>741150372This is idiotic. Games like Arcanum or Planescape have almost objectively terrible moment to moment gameplay. No one plays either game for its combat or navigating the UI or even just moving around the game maps. All of those suck. But they have very strong stories to them. And that on its own created a long term and durable fanbase. This whole thing of 'gameplay first' is braindead because tons of games prioritize writing over gameplay and are very memorable for it.
>>741154384so... they aren't good games?
>>741154303>Are secondaries even really a huge problem outside of RPGs and short ending hunting indie games?More people probably watched VaatiVidya episodes about Dark Souls or Bloodborne than bought the games. But Elden Ring probably changed that with how big it got.
>>741154462You can be a good game with bad gameplay. Morrowind is another example. The gameplay and mechanics all suck. But the game is very fun for its writing.
>>741153694Ah right, I misinterpreted your post as an argument cuz I didn't read it thoughtfully
>>741142934i agree
>>741154462One could argue what constitutes as a game if a game can be good with horrendous gameplay.But some movies with terrible VFX or props or production values can be great movies, just like Arcanum is a great game with great flaws
>>741148986gameplay is all that matters, it's literally all that videogames are ABOUTgo read a fucking book or watch a movie if you want >MUH STOAREEEor>MUH PURDY GRAFFFIXXXXXXXXgo watch some dreamworks slop you filthy fucking tertiary plebeians
>>741152003>>games are made with the assumption the player will be using a guidethis is what zoomgroidals ACTUALLY fucking believe, pathetic fucking faggotsTOTAL ZOOMGROIDAL DEATH
>>741152628they're not secondaries, they're tertiaries, secondaries at least pretend to acknowledge gameplay as even existing, tertiaries actively and vehemently deny that gameplay even exists
>>741154384and that's why those games suck nigger ass
>>741146724Get the fuck out and never return.
>>741154881>what constitutes as a gamegameplay and nothing else, period.
>>741152016No, you're not, because those things are contextual to the gameplay. You're a faggot poser and unwelcome.
>you can be a fan of the music or art or story without playing the gameNo, you cannot. All of those things are created in the context of gameplay. Separating it from gameplay fundamentally denigrates it. You cannot even understand the individual parts of a game without playing the game because every part of the game is contextualized by the gameplay and player agency. If you disagree, you are a retarded poser faggot and should be bullied until you rope.
>you don't have to play a game to be a fan of itEver notice how 90% of the people saying this shit are also troons?
you know where this all stems from, right?
>>741157495>has time to finish an accurate model of a portal gun but doesn't have time to finish a 3 hour puzzle game.
>>741146795He had plans but Netflix in particular wouldn't give him the time of day
True, but tourists will get very angry you, they will be upset everytime they look at the merch they bought for the game they've never played.
Ive noticed anytime i met someone, online or irl, that knows of the souls games, and they talk about the story and the characters they never played the games, and when they did play them, discuss weapons, playstyles, boss fights, etc.
>>741142934Now if you're watching the game on a playthrough, you will never in a trillion years experience the game.you'll think you have experienced it, but you'll be *clears throat* cheated.It's a-such a sadness, that you think you've played a game on your fucking telephone. Get real.
>>741154384load of horseshit.one of the main draws of arcanum is interacting with its mechanics.
>>741154539
>old boomer thinks he can control and lable me.I'm going to continue to be the biggest fan of games I will literally never play or touch. Feel free to send me all your (you)s.
>>741159937>faggot assed redditard who doesn't play videogames is a "fan" of dogshit reddit ass visual novel "games"it's like pottery, it rhymes
People liked games based solely on unanimous agreement from video game magazines and sites before youtube and twitch existed.
>>741160385>this is what zoomgroidals actually believetell me you weren't alive in the 90s without telling me you weren't fucking alive in the 90s
I don't like strategy games but I can appreciate them for their quality, and hope for more for those who do enjoy them fully. OP is a stinky poopoo faggot.
>>741154303>2hu is an immediate counterexampleAre you kidding me, 90% of the fanbase haven't touched the official games.
>>741145802Ok, but you're not a fan.
>>741147232you did the equivalent of reading the plot synopsis on wikipedia. thats what "getting the gist" means. it does not mean you watched it.
>>741152673i would never play those horrific """"""""games""""""" in the first place but watching the TBFP lets plays of them were entertaining as fuck back in the day
>>741147583Redhead FBI lady
>>741154384The problem is that midwits think that combat == gameplay
>>741148986No one ever said that gameplay doesn't matter, but only retards claim that it's the only thing that matters.
>>741147232yeah sometimes I see a thing and think "oh I know someone who might like this"but you aren't a fan of that thing. You never even claimed to be. No idea why you posted this.
>e-retard offtopic>80 replieskill yourself
>>741156023Is Osu! the best game ever?
I watched season 3 recently, I didn't get any of it.
>>741163143They're more games than shit like the last of us, uncharted or recently 007 first light.I'd rather press square and triangle fast to get a different story branch than to slowly tilt analog until I can press square for precanned takedown animation in my EPIC cinematic stealthing arena
>>741154384>Games like Arcanum or Planescape have almost objectively terrible moment to moment gameplayThey don't, though.
>>741142934It kills me that in the 90s we almosr got a david lynch videogame but it didnt happen for some reason. Woodamen in a firey boat or something was the name. I miss him
>>741154384Many retards regurgitate the idea that story doesn't matter because Carmack said it once, a sociopath programmer that doesn't care about other humans, and never made a game with a good story. It's not a compelling argument.
>>741163804David Lynch isn't a streamer
>>741163203Tammy? From The Return? Absolutely.
>>741163953The first nuke test brought forth Judy whom we're not gonna talk about.
>>741160385People played the games in the magazines to check. As opposed to, /v/ looks at any game and says they don't like it.. but they didn't play it..it's all empty posturing, entirely normie and parasocial. It's not even interesting.
>>741142934Considering what fanbases are usually made up of, I'd rather not consider myself a fan of anything
>>741164559The nuke episode is the single greatest thing Lynch has ever made.
>>741148986In fairness, Undertale kind of is a visual novel. Not literally, but a big chunk of its gameplay is about making choices that alter events and outcomes. Presumably the OP there named VNs as an exception because the story IS the gameplay in that format, given that the story is interactive. I think the argument could be made to apply that to Undertale, a game whose most noteworthy characteristic is your ability to play it without killing any enemies at all and completely altering every single story beat as a result of those choices.
>>741142934this is even a debate?? that’s what fan means, a fanatic. at best if you havent played the game you just like it, like the idea of it.
>>741145802You did not beat off to the game.
>>741142934Could a blind person be a fan of a movie?
>>741163953There's nothing to get. The people who worship season 3 and everything Lynch touched are the most pretentious retards on the planet. Season 3 was dog shit.
>>741165471People overthink it and miss the forest for the trees. You're amongst them. It's pretty basic. The subtitle 'The Return' should give it away, but you're too busy being a spiteful dipshit
>>741165429Kek, I forgot about this video
>>741164815I think Rabbits is.
>There's nothing to get. The people who worship season 3 and everything Lynch touched are the most pretentious retards on the planet. Season 3 was dog shit.Lynched
>>741142934>you cannot consider yourself a fan of sex if you've never tried it
>>741166412I'm a sex hater.
