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>Two of the studios I've been told, including getting messages from employees at the locations who are "scared", are Compulsion and Arkane.

>Despite public messaging, many within the studios have expressed real worry and have overheard conversations about the future of the studios.

>I've reached out to Xbox for comment, but to no avail thus far.

https://xcancel.com/MikeStrawMedia/status/2066555775720243583
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They havent made a good game since prey and a financial success since dishonered
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>>741159442
Women are a blight on video games
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>Deathloop
Good.
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go woke go broke
it was only a matter of time
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>>741159442
last thing i played by them was arx fatalis
it sounded interesting when they joined bethesda cause they were supposed to be able to serve as consultation to fix bethesda's problems, but bethesda continued to bethesda
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>>741160391
Yeahhhh but D2 is the best one tho so
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Didn't the news earlier already come out saying Compulsion are gone?
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Are they working on Prey 2?
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Good. I'd rather Dishonored dying than further niggerized and uglified
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>>741160391
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They haven't made a good game since Dark Messiah, nothing of value will be lost.
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>studio famous for making quality imsims
>assign them to make a lot of always-online multiplayer shooterslops instead
how could this have habbened?
of course the good devs, the guys who made the imsims, left the studio years ago. is there anything at Arkane even worth a shit? modern arkane are the guys who made deathloop and redfall not dishonored and arx fatalis.
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>dishonored 2
>prey 2017
HOLY KINO
>deathloop
eh
>redfall
?????
what a fall in just 2-3 years
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>>741159442
>employees at the locations who are "scared"
>many within the studios have expressed real worry and have overheard conversations about the future of the studios.
I love pajeeta now.
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>>741159442
>Deathpoop
>Woke Royale
>That other crap
yeah, it's for the best.
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>>741162369
they never learn
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>>741160076
been completely engrained the western European / liberal mind since the French Revolution and Haiti. If only Napoleon succeed.
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I hope Ralph can pick up the few talent remaining
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>>741159442
>their last 4 projects had a black person on the cover
>studio dies
Imagine my fucking shock and bewilderment. I just cannot believe it
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>>741159732
>They havent made a good game since prey
Since Dishonored. Although going as far back as Arx Fatalis and calling Dishonored Thief for casuals is a fair argument to me.
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>>741163384
only 3 though?
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>>741159442
It's amusing they're having a brown woman axe these bullshit studios. This has been planned for a long time.
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>>741160391
What went wrong with Dishonored 2? I've only played the first one and didn't follow the sequel at all.
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>>741160076
Have you ever sucked black dick? Pure bliss.
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>>741163569
DotO, Deathpoop, Redfall, Blade
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>>741163792
What, Arkane was gonna make a Blade game!?
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>>741163384
It's crazy that Arkane executives were allowed to gamble millions of dollars and 100s of people's jobs on deranged social justice activism. Shareholders should sue them for lack of fiduciary responsibility. It was obvious to anyone that doing this was sacrificing their business for good boy points
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>>741159442
>Dishonored 2
>Let's see if it gives creative ways to non-lethal use powers or be fine with a lethal run
>No! Also the maps are all worse than Dishonored 1 since you can approach with two different power sets your equally expected to not use
>Deathloop
>Unlike Dishonored it encourages high lethality and is actually just one fuck huge map
>JK LOL, we haven't learned shit. We took away all interesting powers and the game is actually linear as fuck and has worse map design than Dishonored 2

Everybody with talent probably left or got laid off when Prey flopped.
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>>741163906
I think about this every time a new diverse game comes out in a genre black people give zero fucks about. Turn based tactical games, RTS, Lovecraftian, fantasy RPGs, and so on. So many times I've seen the studio heads not give a fuck about their employees just to appeal to a demographic that doesn't exist.
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>>741159442
Unfortunately most of their games since dishonored 1 have been hot garbage that severely underperformed
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Their Pray wasn't even a good game. It still baffles me how people praise it.
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>>741164306
you're wrong
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>>741163882
Yeah, the game director for Arkane now is a black guy literally named Dinga Bakaba. He has blacked all the game projects at Arkane. He'd probably rather see the studio built in 1999 end up in ruins than make a profitable game with a white guy
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>>741159442
Colantonio left so there's nothing worth saving there, good call by Asha.
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>>741164306
Nah prey was very good but it didn't have much of an audience so it flopped
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>>741162673
two of those games were made by arkane austin which already got killed years ago
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In other news, raphael colantonio and his crew are developing a new immersive sim with a sci-fi American Frontier as its setting
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I really liked Arx Fatalis and Dishonored.
Dishonored 2 was okay in some places but otherwise incredibly inferior to 1.
Death of the Outsider was awful, even if you somehow manage to ignore the ugly sheboon protagonist.
Didn't play Nu-Prey or anything else.
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Good. Dishonored 2 Death of the Outside and Deathloop were mediocre and Redfall was shit.
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>>741164724
Prey is a great game, you should really try it.
>Nu-Prey
You're not one of those people who make a big deal about its name, are you? Just imagine that it's called Neuroshock or something
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>>741164724
Obviously play Dark Messiah if you haven't, but I also highly recommend Nu-Prey. Maybe a bit annoying to replay compared to the other titles, but the first playthrough is good imsim fun and very clear the difference between Harvey w/DH2 and Ralph's directing. I can only imagine how shit Deus Ex 2 is
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>>741159442
Shouldn't have gone woke.
*gunshot then silence*
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>>741164816
The branch who made Redfall (and Prey prior) was shut down in 2024, the remaining one did Dishonored 1+2 and Deathloop.
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>>741160391
I remember my heart sinking back in 2015ish when I saw the person in the trailer had slender limbs and I realized it was a female, because it was clear that feminists were taking our games.
Then along came Trump!
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>>741164943
>I can only imagine how shit Deus Ex 2 is
It's bad but it's not THAT bad.
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>>741164943
Brainfart. I forgot they made Dark Messiah. Excellent game. Love it.

>>741164913
>You're not one of those people who make a big deal about its name, are you?
I'm not. But I played the original Prey a lot so I need some way to separate the two and I couldn't be bothered to look up the release year.
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Just learned that Harvey Smith has a new studio as well. Wonder what he's working on. He's a hit or miss guy, and was probably really woke at one point. But he worked on Deus Ex and Dishonored so I'll keep an eye on what he makes
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>>741163714
Gameplay-wise it's pretty alright but honestly, all that was asked of them was to build on D1's systems. The new powers are fun and there's more non-lethal options (though some people think it's a bad thing as it removes the difficulty of a non-lethal playthrough).

The levels are pretty decent all around but nothing extraordinary. Generally speaking, you're sneaking around during the day so it's already less atmospheric than Dunwall's dusk/nighttime. There are a few levels with interesting gimmicks like the clockwork mansion or the timeshift manor, but that's what they are, gimmicks. They don't really build on anything that came before or remain after you leave the level (that said the museum full of witches was my favourite level of both game).

The story completely shits the bed but mostly for how bloody... inoffensive it is. It's literally the plot of the first game's DLC for some reason. They constantly have to tiptoe around having two protagonists possible in the same cutscene so there's no real reason to pick either besides the powers. And they ruined the Outsider but that's just the cherry on top. They basically sucked out every little mystery/ambiguity of the first game.

Despite it all... it's a decent game. A decent sequel too if you want me to admit it, it's honestly weird that no other studio really tried their teeth at making something like Dishonored. But Arkane was clearly resting on their laurels from the first game and focusing on the wrong things.
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>>741163550
That would be calling Dark Messiah a bad game, which doesn't fly with me.
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>>741163714
"Somehow Delilah survived..."
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>>741165053
>Deathloop
crazy they didn't also kill that branch too as soon as that game flopped

M$ doesn't know how to cut their losses
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>>741159442
The first dishonored and deathloop are the only good ones
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>>741160391
/thread
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>>741165267
>hit or miss
He's literally never had a hit. Multiple times he's been put in charge of a successful franchise sequel only to ruin it.
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dont see anything worth saving
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>>741165450
I'm still bamboozeled by how hard reviewers shilled it. I have to wonder how large the "advertising" budget was to claim all those high scores and 10/10s. Especially when its dog shit invasion system never properly worked.
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>>741165450
If they shut down the studio now things must've been going really badly at Arkane, because their Blade game was cooking for a while and as far as I know they have nothing to show for it
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>>741165701
It was cancelled, no? They're done.
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>>741159442
>supposedly win GOTYAY
>make no money
deathloop, dishonored, etc. are journo games at best
prey is probably their best effort and even that is boring
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>>741163792
Blade is maybe the funniest IP in the world right now
>cast Oscar winner Mahdfkzvlj Ali as Blade at the height of his popularity at the ripe old age of 45
>spend years in dev hell with different scripts and directors, supposedly because the female writers keep making Blade a side character in his own story
>popular game studio Arkane also announce a Blade project, and copies the film project by entering dev hell
>years pass, Msaghzfge Ali is now 52 years old and wasted his prime on this stupid project
>Wesley Snipes returns for a Blade cameo where he says "There's only gonna be one Blade", fans love it
>Film project is probably dead, game project is probably dead, Arkane ends up on the chopping block
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>>741165701
How the fuck had Blade became so cursed after that first film made him culturally relevant?
The Snipes movies took a sharp nose dive and died before they could break out Morbius.
Then we fast forward to the MCU blade that's been under non-stop rewrites and shifting directors and actors.
Now a videogame.
All you have to do is have a cool guy shooting vampires and brooding about being part vampire. It's that fucking easy.
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Good
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>>741165795
Dishonored isn't a journo game in the slightest. Deathloop is.

>>741165540
I just meant that working on Deus Ex, Thief 3 and Dishonored is enough for me to have a slight interest in what he works on next. I think I like Thief 3 now only because I compare it to Thi4f
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>>741159442
Oh, yeah. They started pumping out nigger-exclusive games sometime after Dishonored 2. Why?
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>>741165865
>became so cursed after that first film
Blade 2 is great
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>>741166045
See >>741164435
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>buys a bunch of studios
>close them down
What is this genius strategy called?
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>>741159442
>inherit the legacy of the legendary LGS
>throw it all away to make wokeflops
They deserved it, sadly. Arx, Dark Messiah, Dishonored and Prey were great.
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>>741159442
Maybe they shouldn't have made dumb multiplayer rogue-like slop
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>>741166151
>buys a bunch of studios
>let studios work on their game for 7 years
>they either release it and it's shit, or they don't release it at all
>Xbox is presented as a villain for not being ok with this
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>>741165965
>Dishonored isn't a journo game in the slightest.
Prey would've been a better argument. Dishonored is definitely a journo game.
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>>741166471
Retarded take
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>>741159442
I mean these studios are shit but what the fuck is the gameplan here. they're going to close every one of their game studios except the couple of big ones so they'll have even LESS fucking games to try and sell people xboxes with?
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>>741166151
Pleasing retarded shareholders.
>"We've bought a million dev studios who will make lodsa money!"
>Line goes up
>Afterwards line goes down because games take years to develop and nobody buys them
>We're saving lodsa money by closing dev studios!"
>Line goes up again
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>>741166123
Racist niggers are a common issue in vidya development. Also in the film industry.
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>Compulsion and Arkane
>No word on Double Fine
how in the fuck has Tim survived the microsoft axe for so long?
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>>741166151
>>741166238
This. Microsoft knew they were out of touch and decided to trust the process.
Unfortunately for them being out of touch means they don’t really know what the process is supposed to look like so they bankrolled a bunch of studios filled with incompetents. And those same incompetents are going to go on a protracted online crying tour when Microsoft rightly shuts them all down.
I’d almost feel bad for MS but they dug their own grave and probably deserve it.
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>>741165798
how is it possible a concept like "Cool black guy kills vampires" is so difficult to create a film or game for? Did we lose the technology for it after the Snipes films?
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>>741165770
It wasn't cancelled, we literally haven't had any official info since late 2023.
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>>741166151
Don't forget their "AAAA" studio build for Perfect Dark which did absolutely fuck all for years until they killed it
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>>741164943
Invisible War is fun. It utterly fails to live up to the first Deus Ex, but outside of that expectation it's good on its own merits.
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>>741159442
Given that more than half of their games were shit this may not be a bad thing
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>>741159442
I'm gonna be honest, I thought it already was closed.
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>>741167151
the other studio did close, just not the main one
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>>741167151
lol i did too, but it was arkane austin they closed a few years ago
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>>741166649
I'm not making fun of your ugly girlfriend. I'm just telling you what those games are.
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>>741160391
>gendered criticism
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>>741159442
>Make 2 good games in 15 years
>Make nigger shit
>No one buys it despite bribed reviewers
>Company shuts down
Did it to themselves.
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>>741159442
>canning the blade game
unless it is nowhere near done or shit that'd be a mistake
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>>741166963
I'm reminded of a funny thing that happened with the TV show American Gods. It's a show about gods trying to be worshipped and sacrifice people to gain more power. It had a very popular scene where the African god Anansi showed up in a slave ship, and delivered a crazy monologue that convinced the slaves to kill everyone on the ship and then themselves. It was the most beloved opening scene in the show. The showrunner was fired, and when a new showrunner took over he said he would be axing the character of Anansi because "an angry portrayal like that is not what Black America needs right now". And that's when you realize that it's really just jews that are ruining the entertainment industry.
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>>741164306
It was pretty good, and people of taste were crying out for more imsims. Still are, in fact.
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>>741159442
When is Machine Games going to kick the bucket? Those niggers haven't made a decent game since 2014.
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Licensing for Marvel properties is now ludicrously expensive. It's likely not what we saw for Sony and what they have to put in to keep Spiderman and Wolverine, but it's probably a ridiculous sum.
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>>741167627
The show shit the bed in S2, S3 wasn't even worth the effort
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>>741167683
Indiana Jones is fun for a playthrough, and it seems like it sold well.
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>>741167360
When I think of a journo game, I think of something not made for gamers, or that is overhyped by journos for dumb reasons. Whether it's ashamed to be a game so it's basically a cinematic experience, or it's a diverse piece of crap that is hyped up as goty to make black people feel good. Dishonored is just popular among gamers, and what they like about it is the gameplay most of all.
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>>741167683
Not any time soon. They're working on a new wolfenstein and also have a wolenstein tv show in the works at Amazon. Also diseny wants another indy game
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>>741167627
American Gods was shit because they stretched out a single book into 3 seasons and still didn't even get to the climax. That Anansi scene never happened in the original and the Anansi Boys version of him was way more based without the le black uprising shit. The whole show was jewish from the very start when they decided to make half the show about Laura.
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>>741167747
>He thinks companies want to make Marvel/Star Wars slop
It's Disney showing up with loads of cash and saying they need to make a game for their dying properties
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>>741167845
>It's Disney showing up with loads of cash
It's not that at all, anon. Did you not read the Insomniac leaks years ago?
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>>741165965
>Deus Ex, Thief 3 and Dishonored
Harvey wasn't in charge for any of those. He took over for the bad sequels: Invisible War (dumbed it down) and Dishonored 2 (made it woke)
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>>741168098
>Woke
You faggots are so annoying
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>>741161616
It’s not it’s basically an uninteresting retread of D1 and it’s DLC is absolute dogshit.
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>>741168254
He did make it woke. In D2 there are two female characters that you could have killed in the first game that are brought back (Billie and Delilah). There are also three female targets. Normally the non-lethal solutions are brutal, but for the women the solutions are
>Cure her illness and gain her as an ally
>Remove her witch powers so she's just a normal woman
>Grant her a fantasy land where she can live in eternity as a god

He also fired the voice actor for the Outsider for having the username "Trannydestroyer"
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>>741163550
Dishonored 2 is better than Dishonored 1. Just don't play as Corvo because the game sucks with his power sets, it's designed around the new girl
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>>741168098
watching those streams has been comfy
my opinion on Harvey has changed slightly - he comes off as one of those tolerable redditors who are emotionally sensitive and more a victim of koolaid drinking naitive rather than being a manifestation of evil and ugliness. Still probably a major fag who probably throws on airs of intellectualism while coasting off the success of the people around him, but it doesn't feel entirely right to paint the entire studio being pozzed entirely on him
ralph on the other hand, fuck, seems like the dude you'd have a few beers with and next thing you know he can't top "joking" about using a pair of kitchen shears to cut your balls off
>camaaaan, eet would be fahnni no?
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>>741168454
>uninteresting retread of D1
Yeah that's exactly what you'd think if you played as Corvo. You shouldn't play as him, he should've been locked for NG+, playing as him ruined the game for most people
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>>741168706
>my opinion on Harvey has changed slightly
I have probably been the biggest Harvey shitposter on /v/ for the last years and I have to agree with your post
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>>741162942
Huh, I wonder if there's some sort of pattern at work here? Lol.
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>>741168706
Harvey is a typical woke boss. He himself doesn't act woke and says offensive stuff but if he catches you not being woke, he'll be offended. What are you gonna do, call him out on it, wagie
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>>741167627
Man, I'm really out of the loop. I actually read and enjoyed that book, but I never even heard of a TV adaptation. I can only assume it was done the same level of justice Sandman and Good Omens received. Or did they manage to make it worse?
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>>741168819
It was a pretty bad (and extremely gay) show, with a stronger first season made by gay showrunner Bryan Fuller before he was fired. The whole appeal was Ian McShane as Odin, most everything else was bad or just shock value.
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>>741168254
not my fault the devs did it
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>>741168558
>women existing make zoomers seethe
Cry about it
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>>741169219
the usual playbook huh
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>>741162673
Wasn't deathloop pretty successful? Honestly I thought it was fun except it held your hand too much. If you could turn off all the guidance, I think it would have just been a better game.
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>>741159442
Not a single good game
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>>741169426
>He called me out for being a bitch, he must be a part of some diabolical political cabal
It's simple anon, you are a bitch who can't handle people different from you. Don't make that my problem, you annoying faggot
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>>741168819
It's way, way worse. They stretched it over 3 seasons before getting canceled and it ends with Shadow on the vigil, with none of the afterlife, rebirth, final battle, resolution with the missing kids, ect. There are 26.5 hours of tv show leading up to that filled with the most stupid filler, mainly consisting of Laura's adventures. They also drastically change many scenes and "dramatize" it for dummies. For example, the book scene where Wednesday recruits Easter and asks the wiccans what they sacrifice is changed to a party where a ton of Jesuses show up (something Gaiman deliberately avoided in the book, where Jesus only shows up in the afterlife in a cut scene) and Easter screams at the heavens and manipulates the weather and swears vengeance on the new gods or some retarded shit. This is in the Brian Fuller season that other anon claims is good. Its shit and always was shit, and the first season is 10 hours of the first 100 pages of the book interspersed with the most pointless and mind numbing filler.

It's pure slop for the lowest common denominator, like that anon who thinks Anansi killing people on a slave ship is the coolest thing ever.
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>>741159442
They fucking destroyed anything interesting about the Outsider in 2 and Death of the Outsider and Prey got a lot of controversy because they were forced to use the name Prey.
Death of the Outsider and Redfall also showed they lost any talent they had
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>>741159442
Going from prey to that vampire game in just a couple years was crazy work. Never seen a studio go from good to utter shit so fast. Just put them down already
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>>741169842
Fuck I forgot to mention Deathloop which is fitting because it had horrible marketing and no one really cared about it either.
Back to back failures, poor marketing, and black character fatigue made the game doomed to fail. They didn't even really explain what the game was in all the trailers they shown for years
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>>741168558
The non-lethal stuff being brutal was a problem in the first game. Not killing people was a fate worse than death and in many cases more satisfying to pull off, yet the game treated you like a saint because le killing is bad. Stabbing out someone's eyes and making them crawl around in a mine is way worse than just stabbing them in the neck and the game shouldn't have "rewarded" you with less chaos as a result. Worse was branding that one guy a heretic instead of killing him. That should have created more chaos and controversy than just silently killing him and letting the authorities spin it. Having the non-lethal choices in D2 be less cruel is actually better because non-lethal is treated like mercy and killing as an actual punishment. It's not great, but its better than the confused child-morality in the first game where killing is the absolute sin and you can rape and murder and torture people all you want and still be a good guy.

>>741169684
He's right to call you out because your argument boils down to muh women without any actual higher thought process.
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>>741164306
it was alright, I started getting annoyed with the game in the end because of the constant flood of robot enemies.
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>>741166963
jewish feminism isn’t kind to any man, black or white
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>>741166863
I spoke too soon, turns out it's damn near all of the 'AA' studios xbox bought: https://x.com/Wario64/status/2066620091220050287
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>>741170242
>you can rape and murder and torture people all you want and still be a good guy.
They wrote a novel to retcon the crazy stalker dude from 1 to having him end up being tricked by the sister and getting all the dudes money so that no lethal option isn't even a punishment now
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>>741169818
Gaiman is also a kike sex pest
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>>741169818
Wow, that does sound more dog shit than Sandman and Good Omens.

I figured seeing how they handeled the House on the Rock segment and filming location would have been cool, but the show pulled a fucking Hobbit and fillered itself to death.
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They are French, if the studio is closed they will get paid years worth of salary in compensation then have at least one year of paid salary paid by the state, then universal wellfare. they can easily turn their life around after this.
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>>741170347
>Several studios in Microsoft Corp.’s Xbox gaming division, including Montreal-based Compulsion Games and San Francisco-based Double Fine, are in active negotiations to spin off as they try to thwart closure, according to people familiar with the company’s plans.
>Cambridge, England-based Ninja Theory, the maker of Hellblade, is also in conversations with Xbox, as are several other studios across the portfolio that are at risk of being shuttered.
they're aiming for xbox to be the COD/Halo/Gears machine and that's it
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>>741170242
But the non-lethal options for the male characters in Dishonored 2 are still quite brutal.

So with the retcons and canon of sparing Billie Lurke, the worst thing to happen to a woman in Dishonored is that you remove a witch's magic powers (she gets arrested later which you play no part in)
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>>741169219
>women exist
>stop existing immediately because they're not commercially viable
>insert gamingcirclejerk cope sessions
You don't understand how okay I am with this status quo.
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>>741170552
Both PlayStation and Xbox fucking destroyed their own shit or the studios did it themselves. 7th gen saw a lot of shit die from the new tech and chasing trends, 8th and 9th Gen saw a fuckton of studio death either being forced to become some skinner box live service, destroying franchises to become inclusive and leftist approved, becoming movie games, or choosing to become woke shit themselves.
People who expect AAA to ever recover are retarded at this point. People can't even be creative because of bloated costs
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>>741165865
>All you have to do is have a cool guy shooting vampires and brooding about being part vampire
And that's why Blade as an IP is dead. Everyone knows that Blade is just a black guy dressed in leather shooting vampires, but nobody wants to make just that and would rather instead re-invent or completely change the character just so they can do their own thing that's unique somehow, regardless of whether that's necessary.
What Blade needs is a drastically lower budget and a strict deadline. Hire some AA studio like Teyon or Saber to shit out a game in 3 years and under 40 million bucks, and I guarantee you it'll be a better Blade game than anything Arkane could ever release.
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>>741170626
You have to much hope if you actually think much will change. All they are doing is not making shit blatantly politically woke so retards will buy it without knowing beforehand. They are ideologically captured money doesn't matter and don't forget younger zoomers and gen alpha don't know about how things used to be and actively refuse to engage with the past.
People didn't want to be mean when the shit first happened and now the world sucks and there is no turning back to how things used to be
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>>741171017
I don't want change. The western industry will die and that's a good thing.
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>Make shit games
>Die
woooow
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>>741171486
I want it to die but the same retarded faggots that watch the live action Disney remakes are also a large part of gaming so it will never truly crash
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>>741166151
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Is Prey (2017) ACTUALLY good?

Are there jump scares? I legit hate this shit and the last game with jump scare I played was Doom 3 (2004)
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>>741173649
Mediocre
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>>741173649
Prey 2017 is nearly as good as system shock 2, basically just as good with this https://www.nexusmods.com/prey2017/mods/38
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>>741173649
It's pretty good. Well worth playing if you like imsims.
>Are there jump scares?
... nah.
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>>741159442
When's the last time they made an actually good game? Dishonoured 1?
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>>741165865
>>741170890
The MCU shit is still so baffling to me. Literally all you have to do is have a guy in leather kill vampires. Why was the original version of this a story about a bunch of women with Blade essentially being a background character?
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>>741159442
Arkane has been a zombie since after Prey, their best game.
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>>741166151
The private equity.
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>>741169929
>Going from prey to that vampire game in just a couple years was crazy work

Literally 70% of the studio left after Prey, including the founder.
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>>741160391
>it's LE WOOOOOOOOOKE because you can choose to play Emily (you can also play corvo just fine but that goes against the /pol/baby narrative)
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>>741175275
Hiring one of the original pillars of faggots who started making video games polictal and feminist is beyond woke as you are partaking in the initial downfall
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>>741160391
>the option to play as Emily instead of just Corvo

are you just taking the piss?
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>>741168558
Now how about you detail some of the male characters and their non-lethal paths. Surely you can prove some difference between how they're handled and how women are handled and aren't just being emotional about actual non-issues because you're just as fragile as the original snowflakes, right?
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>>741175275
It's even more of a self own if the game itself wasn't woke. Why did they spend so much time and money trying to convince everyone it was?
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>>741159732
>and a financial success since dishonered
I also liked Prey but it's amazing how Arkane has defied gravity until now

>make a cult favorite
>make a niche success
>make a massive $100 million+ flop
>then make another massive $100 million+ flop
>then make another massive $100 million+ flop
>then make another massive $100 million+ flop

How the fuck had they remained in business for a decade?
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>>741170242
The entire complaint was about muh women, and when he couldn't back it up he pulled the "LOOK AT THIS SCREENCAP OF A SCOTTISH COCK MONGLER SAYING A THING ON TWITTER I WIN!!!!!!" card.

>>741175904
Because the rest of the world isn't 4chan and you don't get good press by going "ANITA SARKESIAN IS A CUM GUZZLING WHORE LOOK AT HER TWEETS".
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>>741176000
Dishonored 2 flopped lol
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>>741175803
I don't take orders from you, look up the targets and the non-lethal paths yourself tranny
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>>741176000
>Because the rest of the world isn't 4chan and you don't get good press by going "ANITA SARKESIAN IS A CUM GUZZLING WHORE LOOK AT HER TWEETS".
Are you sure? Has anyone tried?
I mean, the opposite clearly doesn't work.
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>>741175275
It's less about being woke and more about them being spineless pussies instead of just ignoring feminists
The third game is indefensible, it killed the series for a reason
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>>741166840
are you retarded? wow white guy makes a white protag, wow asian guy makes an asian protag but black guy make black protag? RACIST. If thats the case shit like static shock was racist propaganda
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>>741176562
Yes, very racist. Blacks wanting only blacks in their media. Inarguably racist.
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>>741175904
>>741176000

getting into the nitty gritty of economics/game design theory/logic/etc is very difficult and over 90% of people have the noggin to comprehend that.

but even the most retarded redneck knows that niggers/women/muslims/canadians/troons are a scourge upon the world that needs to be purged.
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>>741176180
The third game seemed like a deliberate attempt at killing their own franchise.
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>>741176704
why first letter gets cracked if he put pressure only on last three? Why steak not buger? I don't like this pic, it's shit. Kys for posting this garbage.
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>>741159442

Dishonored 1 and Prey are hood classics.
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Dishonored 2, Death of the Outsider and Deathloop are good games and no amount of moaning about black people or women will change that
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>>741177461
>Dishonored 2, Death of the Outsider and Deathloop are good games and no amount of moaning about black people or women will change that
You could be right. Sadly no one will ever know. Maybe they shouldn't have done all that anti-marketing.
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>>741177461
I don't even have to complain about niggers or women to tell you why they are bad
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Dishonored 2 having even more forgettable villains despite the first game having them all just be evil politicians is kind of sad. The boring ass non violent outcomes didn't help either. Game is still okay.
Death of the Outsider has zero things going for it
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>>741177863
>Death of the Outsider has zero things going for it

Bank heist mission.
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>>741159442
they went insane after blm and made every single protagonist a nigger in their games ever since, good riddance
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>>741165450
>>741165679
It was one of the most blatantly paid shill games in like a decade.
It's when I first noticed the habit of the worse shills to avoid posting webms and screenshots of the games they're shilling. In Deathloop threads you could literally call them out on it and the thread would die and they'd go make another one where they desperately tried to avoid posting gameplay footage it was bizarre. They definitely knew it was a piece of shit at that point.
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>>741159442
all those nigroes / foids on the covers

S
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>>741173649
it's fine, nowhere near as good as classic imsims thoug
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>>741160391
Emily was way, way more fun than Corvo was while narratively making complete sense as a protagonist.
Anyone trying to make a battleground of Dishonored 2 for le ebil feminazis shit is fucking brain damaged given it's standing next to Death of the Outsider, an actual ugly ur-californian slopfest
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>>741159442
>be californian danger hairs and senile boomers
>hand over company to jeets and chinks
>they drop the woke games and devs as soon as numbers go down
you love to see it
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>>741159442
arkane in their diminished state is still one of their better studios, you could easily give them a halo or elderscrolls/fallout game and watch them do something interesting with it
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>>741159442
If I was microsoft id just buy colantonios new studio, combine it with the old arkane art team them fire everyone else.
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>>741182000
How is that? Arkane Lyon haven't shown a game in 5 years, and the "goty contender" Deathloop barely interested gamers
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>>741166963
Black MC means the woke hand has its claws all over it which means its run by incompetent retards
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>Recent games
>Redfall
>Death Loop
>Wolfenstein: Youngblood

Yeah, gee. Really surprising these guys are getting shut down.
Have they tried making a good game?
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>>741175937
Someone has to make the nigger games.
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>>741175275
It was in fact woke because it in fact went broke. There's no arguing with facts.
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>>741182297
Their games have style and they are one of the only studios microsoft has left who is even confident enough to attempt a new IP let alone ship it, be profitable or have any valuable IP created in the last 15 years the way arkane has with dishonored. Their reputation was tarnished by the americans but the French team still has a decent track record.

They should never have agreed to make a capeshit game, which you can blame on handing creative leadership to a black man who became obsessed with making every game about black MCs
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>>741166238
>buy studios well after their prime/post old staff exodus
>make them crank out more work on their old IPs
>they suck because the old teams that made those IPs popular are gone
>"how could this happen?!?!?!?"
Shoulda stuck to low effort slopware, either learn how the process works or don't put your money on the table.
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>xbots start getting cocky and salivate over the new JeetEO
>this happens
Pride cometh
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>>741182447
>Redfall
The american arkane studio was already shut down. This studios past few games are deathloop, Dishonored 1 and 2, which is much less shitty.
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>>741159442
Weren't they responsible for creating Wolfenstein Youngblood which killed the franchise?
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>>741176704
>White people dying is based
Amerikikes are all brown until proven Jewish.
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>>741159442
RIP, but they've been shit for a while now so the loss really isn't that bad. It's kind of like putting a terminally ill person out of their misery.
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>>741164664
Game name?
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>>741166151
Accelerationism, Xbox is crashing this industry with no survivors.
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>>741183030
>pride cometh
well yeah, it's june
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>Arkane
barely anything of value will be lost. They already put out the best of what they could.
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>>741159442
Weird, I thought they had already closed.
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>>741181298
Genuinely, including Corvo as a playable character was a bad idea. It feels like it directly led to the game's stories being so cookie cutter.
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>>741181298
She doesn’t make sense at all as a protagonist because nobody wants to play as a fucking woman, get it through your head retard.
>tim and redditic picture
ur gay
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>>741175275
yes, unironically.
women don’t play imsims. if Arkane wanted to develop a game for women they could make a Sims game.
Get the fuck out of my hobby.
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>>741160391
How is more playable characters a downside? Are you retarded? You can play as Corvo as well. Culture war retards should be banned, no critical or analytical skills whatsover, just as bad as lgbt people that constantly preach about being opressed.
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>>741159442
Microsoft buying every game studio and forcing them to emulate Sony studios after everyone was already sick of Sony games really didn't work out, huh?
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>>741168706
>other dev: "if we were to redo dishonored again, I think I would force players to beat the game at least once before they're allowed to unlock the pacifist achievement. That way they see all the fun powers we made."
>Ralph: "If we remade the game again we would just fuck it up and make it a piece of shit."
Ralph is based
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>>741166151
>>741166826
>>741174972
You retarded fags go ahead and pay those developers to only put out shit nobody wants. Go and sell your parents stuff, because you don't own anything yourself.
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>>741187504
maybe they should have made 50 playable characters
one for each lgbtq+ denomination
Because more playable characters could never affect the quality of a narrative game. Why couldn’t Aragorn have had a big fat black woman sidekick, its just an extra character!
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Arkane hasn't been closed already? Good fucking riddance.
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>>741159442
they should make more nigger games people really love that
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Arkane closing down would be one of the most obvious of the death of western gaming as a medium.
It was one of the few studio that took pride in focusing on something that is exclusive to video games, level design and interactivity.
You can seethe however you want about niggers and such, there is no Arkane game with bad gameplay, meanwhile sony wanks themselves on narrative experience and nintendo regurgitates the same franchises for 40 years.
No matter how woke recent Arkane was they still made video games, now there will neither blacks nor games.
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>>741189914
Nobody is going to give a shit if Arkane dies. I'd doubt that most zoomie gamers even know who they are.

The canary in the coal mine for 'yeah, western gaming is fucked' is a big studio like Blizzard, Sony Santa Monica, Respawn, or Bungie going under. I'd put my money on Bungie dying first, based on what games each has in the market.
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>>741189914
>no Arkane game with bad gameplay,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Nigger your fucking REDFALL?
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>>741159732
Prey was austin, and already closed down.
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>>741189914
Arkane disrespected the medium, thats the entire reason they ended up like this.
Proof that theres more to art than just pretty pictures and clicking buttons the right way. They thought they could ape the outward appearance while replacing the meaningful parts with their gay bullshit.
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>>741190065
>Nobody is going to give a shit if Arkane dies. I'd doubt that most zoomie gamers even know who they are.
This tweet from barely 2 months ago has 12 million views gave a gigantic dishonored resurgence with hundred of people praising the game as a masterpiece. Also hundreds of people spamming arkane for a third entry.
>>741190070
>REDFALL
Arkane Austin has literally nothing to do with Arkane Lyon whatsoever. 70 to 80% of the people who worked on Prey left before Redfall was finished according to schreier. This is not an Arkane game.
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>>741189914
t. arkane code tranny
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>>741190520
>70 to 80% of the people who worked on Prey left before Redfall was finished according to schreier.
So Arkane wasn't Arkane anyway? Seems pointless to even think about then.
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>>741190520
>this tweet has a lot of likes!
Doesn't matter. Nobody showed up in large enough numbers to support Prey when it released, which is why Arkane got demoted to doing Redfall.

And Dishonored got ruined which is why the second and third entries were flops.
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>>741190652
Bethesda fucked Arkane over with Prey more than any editor ever did for a game. They forced this fake sequel/reboot shit meanwhile Arkane just wanted to make a new IP and it resulted in a game with dogshit marketing for an already niche genre like immersive sims.
Nobody but Arkane was making immsims nowadays but now nobody at all will make new ones. You faggots just don't like video games.
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>make three great "imm sims" in a row
>randomly decide that joggers are the only demographic you care about now
>make dogshit DLC featuring a throwaway girl from good DLC who wants to murder a fan favorite character
>kicking simulator featuring a black MC and a black villain
>make some garbage vampire game nobody played because the featured person for the ads was a black woman
Get fucked. Devs need to learn that the only games blacks will buy are sports games and the occasional weeb fighter. Deciding the pander to them and exclude the people who buy game is fucking insanity.
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>>741159442
thats what you get for redfall and deathloop and they will blame it on making new IPs lol
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>>741190891
Don't too mad, Bethesda will join them in the grave soon.
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>>741159442
>Dishonored
>then some stuff with niggers
I literally don't know anything they've made outside of that one game.
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>>741191024
You know the whole industryfalling into Japan's hand would be the second worst thing that could ever happen after if it fell entirely into Sony's hand instead.
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9/11 for Resetera
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>>741191049
I forgot they had a concord level slop that performed exactly as you'd expect
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>>741166963
For the movies its cause Feige is too busy concerned with "muh multiverses" and his NuSpider-Man trash.
It's a slam dunk to make a smaller R rated movie where Blade kills vampires in his universe then Doc Strange brings him in his for whatever ass reason at the end. Done.

As for the game, I hope it still happens cause I feel like Arkane could return to their good era with Blade. Capture that Dishonoured spectacle while being cool Blade shit.
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>>741191146
What were they thinking?
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>>741191436
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>>741167627
>american gods season 1
>about a world changing war between old gods and new gods, ends season with a huge agricultural desaster in the midwest by one of the gods

>season 2
>pretty much ignores all the grand things that were set up in season 1 and concentrates on generational trauma in a small podunk Southern US town because a bunch of niggers got lynched a hundred years ago or something, all in time for the BLM protests

then season 3 couldn't even finish the main story but spend a whole episode on a gay tranny orgy, with full frontal dicks on display
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>>741164435
absolute woke kino
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>>741167151
spiritually it was
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The only good woke game was dragon age veilguard because it had good combat and pretty fuckable women, and the one tranny they added was a mythical beast looking type and she wasn't even a mtf but a ftm so basically just a girlboss type
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>>741170242
non lethal wasn't really morally good, it just meant that you didn't create more corpses for the rats to feed on thus furthering the plague
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>>741164306
Filtered
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>>741173649
you are forced to play as a ""minority""
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>>741159442
good, their only good games are arx fatalis and dark messiah
a lot of good news today, looking forward to see every other studio die
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>>741161616
Exactly this.
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>>741159442
Overrated studio.
>but le Dishonored is a mastahpiece
Inferior to Thief and Styx is a better modern stealth game that actually focuses on sneaking, uses a light based detection model and the sound detection is still a little marginally better. Even Thief Deadly Shadows was better so i don't know what the fuck happened to Harvey Smith to cause him to make the most barebones game possible.
Regardless of whether you think Splinter Cell or Thiefs ideas are 'aged' their mechanics are still more advanced and it's challenge is higher for ghost runs.
>dark messiah
>arx fatalis
Haven't made games like it post 2006
>Prey
I've yet to get around to it but people have reliably informed me that if i didn't like Dishonored then i won't like it.
>Redfall
lol
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>>741192897
i agree overall but styx is also fucking garbage
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>>741192117
and also her penis was shaved so it wasnt really a masculine tranny, more like a feminine tranny with a suckable cock, which is a great reward if you complete her quests
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>>741193329
I think it's good but doesn't hold a candle to Thief.
The major issues Dishonored has is that the actual sneaky part is practically just a secondary part of the game and tacked on. Whilst Styx made it the primary focus. The least i ask if your game is supposed to be some kind of love letter game to Thief to it that you do not go down the Deus Ex route entirely except for the design ideas of interconnected levels and allowing the use of experimentation in your tools. It can't be that combat is actually a viable approach it can only be that remaining in the shadows is safe. Styx still held onto the idea that shadows aren't complete cover at close distances and i think that's one similarity it had with Dishonored. But the light focused stealth in general was a larger focus of the design and that's something that could have easily turned Dishonored around. But the biggest issue is the terrible lack of sound propagation in general.
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the whole fake history that dishonored was a some great game insane.
dishonored was decent/good, had a fun setting but was not really very memorable
everything else coming out from big studios is 10x worse of course, and i'll feel a little bad when arkham stops existing but to be frank if none of their games were ever released nothing really significant would be lost

(btw dishonored came from a valve collaboration, valve cancelled the project and arkane finished it out, it wasn't even like a sole arkane project and it's the only thing anyone cares about from them)
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>>741192897
>Prey
Did you play the old Prey games and liked them? Than you won't like the new ones because they're nothing alike
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>>741194274
Yeah i played the old one by Human Head. I thought it was decent but I just never got around to Arkanes reboot of the IP name. It's kind of depressing because Prey 2 looked cooler thematically at least since a space bounty hunter game seemed unique and interesting. Minus the adaptive cover shooting but whatever nu Deus Ex was guilty of the same crimes anyway.
Some people say Arkanes game is like System Shock. I like SS but i hated Dishonored so for some reason it just never felt urgent to touch another game of theirs.
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>>741192897
They haven't made or even been related to a good release in over a decade so yeah it's over
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>>741194665
>Some people say Arkanes game is like System Shock
Sorta, but its a very poor attempt at a modernized System Shock. In all honesty, Arkane Prey is a "its fine" kind of game. It's pretty bland and a very safe game despite the praise it got at the time. People only praised it because of the story and the relatively decent AI (for its time). The gameplay mechanics involving the foamy stuff got old very quickly. If you're not a fan of survival crafting than don't bother because the game heavily depends on you doing upgrades for your gear in order to stay relevant if you aren't cheesing the game. If you watch a gameplay playlist of it you'd understand what I mean.
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>>741164664
So he’s going to make a worse Fallout this time? Wow. What can’t he do?
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>Sweet Babby shittening the characters and narrative wasn't the problem! The racist white people working at the studio were!
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>>741163714
Maps are worse
Story is MUCH worse
Emily's spells are kinda mid
Karnacca does not feel like a cogent place as much as Dunwall does
Significant damage to the lore of the setting
new Outsider VO sucks ass
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Nigger games did it
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>>741187504
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>>741166963
Because writers don't know how to write or what to write anymore and think being "higher concept" or having twists is what makes things good.
The most famous literary qoute I can think of is ""I would have written a shorter letter, but did not have the time."".
Modern writers instead think that more words is more better and that a chair cannot be a chair it has to also massage you, walk your dog and teach you the meaning of life.
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>>741170552
COD/Halo/Horizon/ES/Fallout/Diablo/OW/WoW. Will likely be it. I see Fable underperforming. Doom will go back to being dormant for another decade. Crash might be bright back if Spyro does well. Everything else that Xbox has will be dead IP's including their studios.
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>>741190652
Yeah because I didn't want Prey I wanted Dishonored
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>>741194074
>and i'll feel a little bad when arkham stops existing
Humorous unintentional typo that aligns with the reality of how hamfisted casual design elements were in Arkanes games that were often detrimental to the gameplay.
If the blink ability didn't ruin Dishonored stealth difficulty completely, if having no sound propagation (that wasn't relegated to a crouch toggle with no surface sound property variation) didn't completely sour it's presented challenges entirely then surely it was the ability to see all enemies through walls and never encourage actual situational awareness. Because who needs having to hear the positons of the patrolling guards? why not just give their positions away with a toggle of a button?
The people that use 4chan nowadays probably think Batman vision was good.
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>>741198068
Not sure why that image fucked up in sizing but i you could already tell the just of what i was saying i guess.
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>liked dishonored
>liked dishonored 2
>liked prey
>filtered by thief
>filtered by deus ex
>filtered by dark messiah
>liked system shock remake
why did I not like thief and the other two
and what should I try next
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>>741198068
in the first level of death of the outsider, you don't have blink or dark vision and the game is so much better. You actually start caring about the level design, looking for climbing spots and listening for guards. Then the second level gives you all the powers and it's a sloppy mess. Dishonored would've been much better without those things
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>>741159442
hot take but dishonored 2 wasn't a good game
it was a step back from dishonored 1
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>>741159442
this character gives me a boner, honestly.
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>>741160391
But microsoft doesn't want white men and hot women
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>>741198117
screenshake
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>>741198993
shes not ugly, the game genre is just not what people wanted from them. Arkane devs usually do a good job at this stuff, the deathloop cast looked good as well.
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>>741198117
Same exact thing. Thief just felt like a boring stealth game. Wow I'm sitting around in the dark and use arrows to make rooms even darker so that I can sit in the dark some more. Amazing stuff. I like stealth games but this felt barebones compared to something like Splinter Cell
Desu sex OG feels like a good game in theory but it practice it's a little too linear. If every level was like China it would've been great. And combat sucks in that game, stealth kinda sucks too. Love the rebooted series though
Dark Messiah just felt like linear Skyrim with some extra physics. I'm sure it was impressive at the time but I played it recently and absolutely nothing about it was special
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KEK
ANOTHER TRANNY DEI STUDIO BITES THE DUST
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If you couldn't see the writing on the wall with Deathloop you're retarded.
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>>741198117
how far into deus ex did you get filtered?
I dropped the game early multiple times over years until it finally clicked, now it's one of my favs
also play ss2 ofc
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>>741192897
>Styx
isn't the new one shit?
I heard it has millennial writing
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>>741166963
>>741196148
Remember all the video game adaptations and starslop shows?
ALL OF THEM completely miss the point because the writers want to make "their version" of it so you have shit like Master Chief taking his helmet off 24/7 and crying and Boba Fett being a pacifist retard who lets a group of teenagers boss him around and ends with him being a Crime Lord that does no crime
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>>741199757
>I like stealth games but this felt barebones compared to something like Splinter Cell
Have you played more than 1 level of Thief? Because thats a very strange statement to make.
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>>741173649
The ending to Prey 2017 is literally "it was all just a dream!" and there are like 4 enemy types in the entire game.
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>>741199923
the tutorial
thief I got to the mine level and just didn't get it
dark messiah I actually had fun with kicking and throwing shit but I think playing on hard was a mistake and most of the time I died without knowing what hit me

now that I think about it I actually played human revolution like a billion years ago but I didn't like how the game faded to black and started a cutscene every time you melee'd someone
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>>741200056
defiantly give it another shot eventually then, it's a ton of fun and a classic for a reason
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>>741199964
Have you played more than 1 level of Splinter Cell? You can do way more in Splinter Cell than you can in Thief, it's just a more elaborate game. And the light/dark mechanic is still there if you like it so much
>bububut the levels are more open
Is that so important in a stealth game really. People act like Thief is an imsim but it's just a stealth game
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>>741199925
Not the anon you were replying to, but the new Styx game is shit because it basically is another case of the devs thinking the old style of x,y and z game would not work in current day, and proceed to make something that is to no interest to anyone at the end of the day.
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>>741161616
Knife of Dunwall/Brigmore Witches is the best Dishonored game, D2 was just ok with a few really high points.
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>>741200198
ok, I had tried the old one, they are often on deep sales, are they worth buying?
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>>741166963
Women barraged into men spaces to fuck shit up with the intent to fuck shit up because they were PAID to fuck shit up.
And we are not talking about some fine ass bitches, we are talking about some real mean, real ugly, honkey, fat ass bitches. So liberal and righteous they couldn't give a black man his own damn movie in 10 years.
They said blacks get too much welfare, motherfucker, you should see the type of welfare these fat white bitches get.
You know a brother could not get paid to just sit on his ass for 10 years, and these bitches were sippin starbucks and shit.
This is some bullshit, that is what this is.
Man, white people welfare, shiet.
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>>741191145
The ~Ackening?
The day of the cable cord?
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>>741162942
That's the problem with producing quality slop. Unless you're at the top of your genre like Fromsoft or CDPR you'll fail. Making a game that's just good isn't good enough anymore. Obsidian is another company that just produces quality slop and they're failing the same way. Every game still has great reviews but less and less players. People rather play a janky Indi game than another AAA product that feels like you're replaying it on your first playthrough.
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>>741200636
Obsidian is an easy fix, just have them stop making original games and make games using others IP.
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>>741159442
arkane spiritually died the day zenimax/ms bought it and raf left
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>every one of their games is a D. E. I. poster
>gets ACK'd
#ManySuchCases
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>>741186886
The immSims
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>>741181298
Emily was boring and bland and the narrative premise of Dishonored 2 implies her and Corvo learened nothing from the first game.
The game also featured Delialah again for the sole purpose of white washing her character in a pathetic retcon that sees her as Emily's unjustly treated bastard sister. Dishonored 2 is a fucking abomination
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>>741200135
>People act like Thief is an imsim but it's just a stealth game
Its actually an Adventure game with stealth mechanics.
Thief 2 is the stealth game.
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>>741159442
And nothing of value was lost. Their last good game was Dark Messiah.
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>>741186886
what makes you feel like the game is geared towards women? Emily being a woman is not really important to the story
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How hard is it to make a Blade game? Its basically Dishonored but just slightly different aesthetic
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>>741201695
It's easy, but they don't want to make a Blade game they want to make a game with a tweest that's also very deep that has Blade in it.
Same reason the Movie has been "in development" for near on 20 years
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>>741201473
>Its actually an Adventure game
Nope. Gold puts it back into the stealth game territory regardless of what you think of the quality of the levels. The Metal Age is just the superior stealth one i suppose. I still choose to view Baffords Manor as what set up the initial concept of what you were playing. Even Cragscleft was stealth infiltration mixed with adventure level because there's still the primary element of weaving around patrols throughout the majority of it. Just not the usual choose your point of entry ones.
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>>741198117
>like streamlined slop made for normalfag retards
>filtered by actual games
gee i wonder what's your problem
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>>741159442
And you faggots were praising that poojeta, lmao

Women, never again
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>>741202923
System shock remake is a 1:1 recreation of the original as far as level design and progression through the game goes, even item placements might be the same as I'm thinking about the laser rapier
It's not as good as the original (enhanced edition) due to having a slower pace, looking more generic and having questionable music, but the level design alone would definitely filter the average /v/irgin without a guide
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>>741199925
>isn't the new one shit?
I think all of them have been decent gameplay wise but writing is subjective on what you all consider to be good.
I just think it's a good primary example of showing something that Arkanes fans don't want to hear if i can't directly compare Dishonored to Thief. Because Arkane fans will show how "dated " it is and insist that Thief is outdated "crusty boomer shit" yet will not look at a game that translated some of the same ideas into a different modern variation of it and just simply did it better. I'd recommend playing Blades of Greed but that it's not free of flaws.
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>>741200908
>white washing her character
Whitewashing Daud in Brigmore's Witches wasn't any better.
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>>741203596
k ty anons, steam sales start soon i'll pick it up
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I cannot imagine caring about this company after Dishonored, which was like a massively dumbed down Thief for retards. I can understand the new always online shitman games, I can't understand anyone young enough to like Dishonored.

I gave nuPrey a shot just because I loved the genre so much, and it somehow managed to be even worse. Faster this studio dies, the better.
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>>741204004
i doubt you love the genre very much if you disliked prey, maybe you liked system shock 2 when you last played it in 2010
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>>741204004
Nobody likes dishonored because it's a shitty theif game, nobody wants dishonored to be a theif game, nobody cares that you wanted it to be a theif game.
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>all of these woke game companies falling under
Are we heading into a recession or a renaissance era, bros? Will we go back to a bunch of dudes in a hot funky basement developing a game?
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>>741204004
Besides Dark Messiah, nuPray was the only good game they've made
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>>741167003
Wasn't there a cancellation announcement a few weeks back?
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>>741204224
game development is moving out of first world countries, it's too expensive to run a studio there unless they already have existing hits. More games from slavs and chinks for the next decade and once those countries become too expensive it's moving onto to the next cheap countries.
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>>741159442
Why is Blade such a cursed franchise now
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>>741204224
nope, you'll get 5000 indians or chinese code slaves in a basement. AAA industry is just too big to truly die and born from its ashes
i mean we're probably getting rid of the wokeshit at least but the games will still be bad
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>>741204224
We're going to full on outsourced slop. All AAA games will be nothing but jeets and chinks, and indie games will still flounder in the "zero funding" category because why give a white man a million bucks to make a game that might bring in 10 million, when you can spend 500 million on jeet service slop and bring in (potentially) billions!
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>>741204497
Indie games are already well funded by small time publishers, giving random devs money does not equate to hits. Look at something like Mina the Hollower, which has crazy good reviews and well loved and it only sold 500k copies so far at a cheap price of $20.
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>>741159442
Dingabros WTF
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>>741202805
>Nope
>Gold puts it back into the stealth game territory regardless of what you think of the quality of the levels
It makes it an adventure game with a few more stealth levels. And two of them still have plenty of adventure gameplay to them. Not a case of "Nope" at all.
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>>741175275
I'm not even a /pol/faggot but it literally was woke. Anita Sarkessian was credited with consulting for the game and this was during the height of GooberGrapes, when the Armernian cunt had the most pull. Either they fully intended the game to be woke or probably more likely they make it woke due to external pressure.

It's being bad is kind of a second order effect of it being woke: instead of making the story sensible and following from the previous game, they undercut that to make it a lame and gay feminist romp and made the gameplay and other aspects of the game worse too.
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>>741204690
Maybe devs should just make better games
A noname russian studio begged for HoMM rights from ubisoft and made a (early access) game for pennies which sold 1 million copies at launch
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>>741200636
dont use the word quality with obsidian
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>>741191143
Japan and the rest of East Asia to an extent winning is a good thing. Americans haven't made good games consistently ever since the early to mid 7th gen. If they didn't get greedy, political for zero benefit and thought two steps ahead, the American gaming industry wouldn't be so fucked.
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>>741204004
Just like the other guy before you, you don't really like imsims, you just like pure stealth games.
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>>741177461
If they were, they wouldn't be shutting down
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>>741205031
Immersive sim is such a meme genre, how can pure stealth like thief be in the same category as fps rpg like system shock 2 or nuprey or deus ex
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>>741205101
They don't and this is why Thief and Styx are not imsims
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>>741205101
I struggle to even call SS2 an ImSim, honestly.
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>>741159442
Good
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>>741204756
Yeah it is. If the light gem is not a dead giveaway about the design direction then Baffords Manor directly communicated the idea. The first level of any game should give a strong impression about what it's really about. If the game started with Bonehoard then i could see your point but it didn't. This is why Thief should never be compared to adventure games and other "immersive sims" too. People constantly misunderstand what Thief was.
I also expect in the future that this will cause morons to claim that they made Thief inspired games like what has already happened with a terrible walking sim named The Occupation or what Gone Home's creator said was the direct inspiration for his game.
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>>741159442
I was looking forward to that blade game. why can't westoids do anything right? they should seriously consider importing managers from china.
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>>741205101
because Thief is immersive and systemic, it's not that complicated
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>>741200135
>People act like Thief is an imsim but it's just a stealth game
I agree with this statement but i don't think Thief is inferior to SC. I like both of them equally for different reasons. Ideally the best of both worlds is Thief's open levels and SC gameplay and i hope someone makes it one day. But i don't think this genre is ever coming back from either of the two respective games.
It's just that i disagree with people who say Thief is actually System Shock Deus Ex when it feels alien to every game under this labeled philosophy.
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>>741177461
>no amount of moaning about black people or women will change that
nobody cares about your mental illness
i'm here to serve myself and others around me without overly polluting my stay
get fucked
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>>741163550
Prey was great, kill yourself
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>>741162942
you misspelled lear
no it's not played out. it never will be. i will never lear
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>>741161616
>Yeahhhh but D2 is the best one tho so
because the talent somewhat remained (until the total ousting in mid 2010) but the whole structure morphed into propaganda offices, in typical commie authoritarian fashion
every good autist needs a better shark beside him, otherwise he will be taken advantage of
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>>741207091
>This is why Thief should never be compared to adventure games
Only a moron who is genuinely clueless about the adventure genre would actually believe this. The Mines of Cragscleft, Bonehoard, Haunted Cathedral (and Return), the Towers in Mage Towers, Lost City, The Maw of Chaos, etc literally exist in the fucking game. If you can't compare those aspects to adventure games, you either have no clue what adventure games are or are in fucking denial. Having some pure Stealth levels and mechanics does not invalidate the Adventure side of the game one bit.
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The woke purge continues.
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>>741186886
fuck you, I played more imsims than you, faggot.
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>>741209901
feet. now.
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>Do a bad job
>Get fired
WAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
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>>741195289
It will easily be better than any Bethesda Fallout, that's for sure.
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>>741159442
And, fuck them. Maybie the employees will set up an new indi studio and make some good games
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any news on the new colantonio game? I have to admit I didn't buy weird west, because the setting and several protagonists are not my thing. I only remember seing some designs from the new game and it had really ugly females. god, I hope his studio will be fine and make a good game
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>>741159442
Microsoft clearly horded way too many devs and IPs. This has been a disaster for them in terms of proper gaming output. These idiots should have concentrated instead on what they had. Their whole "become the Netlix of gaming" strategy has also been a disastrous gamble. If it weren't for Sony seemingly doing everything in their power to fumble their lead position Microsoft at this point wouldn't even be a factor at all. They would have sold off the Xbox I would guess by now or just discontinued it entirely. Coming up with stupid names for each successive generation rather than logical based ones definitely hurt them a lot as well.
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>>741164306
It's boring so midwits think liking it means they're smart.
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>>741212562
>early 1900s America setting
>Sci-fi
>First person immersive sim
>"fans of Prey and Dishonored will feel at home"
>but will also "feel more open" than those games
>"density over size"
>published by Neowiz, korean company behind Lies of P
I think that's basically all the info we have so far
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>>741213407
thanks, I really hope the game will come out
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Dishonored is fascinating because when blink is acquired (at the start of the fucking game) it becomes impossible for the player to lose. Everyone on the development team was ok with this
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>>741162942
That microsoft executive dropped a truth nuke talking about fable 3. A broken clock yadayada.
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>>741201683
>the main character is not important to the story
even if that was true (its not) thats a sign of bad story.
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>>741214161
You could just be a cool guy like me, not use any of the magic bullshit, and get a decent game because of it.
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>>741212894
>Microsoft clearly horded way too many devs and IPs.
yeah, I told snoys when they were panicking about ms gaining too much power while consolidating large parts of the Western video game industry that the more or at least same probable outcome would be that they'll just implode under the bad management and most of the companies/IP will end up dead like all the suckers who were bought by EA. this is happening right now. they'll probably never recover that $69 billions invested in acquisitions, lmao.
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>I just killed a game studio with my freaking mind
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>>741209901
if you cared about imsim as a genre you wouldn't want them targeting the female audience either. Because then this happens.
At most women should get some small AA original IPs by a female dev team, where sales numbers dont matter as much, and try to build an audience organically first.
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>>741216094
deathloop's problem wasn't even the nigger. it only had one way to be solved, that made it worse than the mooncrash dlc from prey. also wtf was that invading thing about? dark souls and it consequences are terrible. dishonored 2 wasn't a bad game by any stretch. did they overdo the pandering to women & blacks? sure. but they still made good games at that point. it all went downhill the moment colantonio left, he knew what was up.
I still feel bad for the good talent left in arkane and really hope, they'll get another chance in another studio...
blade not being shown in the xbox showcase + that new magicians game looking like an arkane clone game made it clear to me, arkane was fucked
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>>741209525
>Cragscleft
Most of the entirety of it is spent weaving guard patrols so you've already fucked up the point that it's bonehoard. Two stealth missions before it became Ultima. You are the retard.
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I want to make love to Asha she's cleansing Microsoft. Now go cleanse Sony too
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>>741164306
That was Arkane Austin which was already shut down.
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>>741209525
>Mage Towers
The primary focus is also stealth like Cragscleft.
It's not the same as Bonehoard.
You're just pretending it's something else.
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Dishonored is one of my all time favourites and I LOVE that the moment i saw Dishonored 2 i knew exactly what it was gonna be about and was proven correct. They altered already establish lore to push their fucking garbage wokeshit agenda. I blacklisted Arkane Studios after the mess of Dishonored 2.
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>>741217440
>Its not an adventure game at all because it doesnt start with bonehoard
>Thinks I fucked up my point because I mentioned the adventure part of a map
No anon, its you. It was always you that was the retard here.
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>>741214672
>I won't use magic because I'm insecure about playing a fantasy game, look how cool I am!
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>that interview with the Prey director where he nearly cries mentioning how you can pour your heart out making a game but it still doesn't sell because of some marketing stuff you had no control over
feels bad man
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>>741217714
The elemental towers are not the same as the central tower. And a level doesnt have to be 100% bonehoard to have elements of adventure gameplay.
>pretending
lmao
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>>741217985
Maybe he should've made a better game.
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>>741218143
name a better AAA game
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>>741218143
maybe I should kneel on your neck
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>>741218010
It's a stealth level and not Bonehoard.
But i don't expect any less in regards to dishonesty from someone who likely pretends that even Gold is non existent and contains levels that must be skipped. Still got my boxed gold copy by the way. Picked it up in the early 2000s from electronics boutique.
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>>741218508
>and not Bonehoard.
Again, a level doesnt have to be 100% bonehoard to have adventure gameplay. Bonehoard is not the sole definition of adventure gameplay, its a style of adventure level.
>But i don't expect any less in regards to dishonesty from someone who likely pretends that even Gold is non existent and contains levels that must be skipped. Still got my boxed gold copy by the way. Picked it up in the early 2000s from electronics boutique.
Hilarious, but I actually enjoy Gold's levels (Even Thieve's Guild). And it made changes to other levels that were necessary, such as fixing potential soft-locks here and there.
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>>741216094
also to your point, I don't really need pandering, but it was nice that I could choose to play as a woman in prey even if it made me lesbian kek.
we can only hope that indies will keep the imsims alive at this point
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arkane is dead already anyways, has been since deathloop came out. That company cannot be salvaged.
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>>741173649
It's a masterpiece. Actually the best Imsim game.
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>>741159442
if you dont want your ip stolen and studio closed dont gt bought by microsoft
simple as
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>>741219097
Deathloop was like 10 times better than the slop that was Dishonored 2 and DotO.

The actual worst game that Atkane made is Redfall but that was Austin not Lyon.
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>>741219258
you are on crack if you believe that. DH2 has some fantastic levels and the gameplay is just as good if not improved from DH1. Deathloop I will agree was pretty bad, a retread of levels we already played in DH2 with the only 2 new levels being a shitty end level that is highly linear and without much to discover or do on it, and one decent new area level with the bank that is split into two levels. Otherwise a waste of time. Oh yeah I guess the first level of it was "new" but it's so short.

Deathloop was just mediocre. The lack of variety to the gameplay made it pretty boring, and once you solve the correct order of assassinations for the puzzle there's no reason to play it again.
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bro needs to make a spiritual successor to Prey instead of making mediocre cowboyslop
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>>741218946
The issue i have with claiming Thief is an adventure game is ignoring something obvious like Mage Towers that puts it squarely in the stealth category as does Cragscleft. It's not like other games that describe themselves as immersive sims because of this fact and it's not traditional dungeon crawling either when it merges the ideas together.
This is also why i don't understand when people recommend me Ultima clones if i liked Thief when in reality it's not what I'm looking for. I'm not actually looking for games that have systems that interact with each other but a game that includes managing light and sound and large levels to infiltrate.
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>>741219657
isn't his company making another imsim right now? probably has nothing to do with dishonored or prey since they don't have the rights to those games
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>>741219657
His studio is small indie one now albeit. No budget for Prey 2 (3).
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>>741219804
see >>741213407
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>>741213407
interesting, I'll try to stay informed on this game. Anything that itches that dishonored / prey / deus ex itch that is badly missing in modern gaming now.
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>>741219440
Dishonored 2 had two good gimmick levels (the two mansions), but the actual game can be described as just playing as Dishonored 1 but worse.

Deathloop's biggest problem is that it's rushed and starved for content, but the assassin targets are overwhelmingly better than their Dishonored counterparts both in characterization but also the fact they all have powers or cool weapons so confronting them is fun rather than a technicality. They all feel like Daud rather than random aristocrat you shank once. I also appreciate that they designed the game around High Chaos instead of how Dishonored is designed around pushing you to Low Chaos. In those ways it felt like a true sequel to Dishonored 1, unlike 2 that is just a retread.
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Is the industry finally crashing?
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>>741159442
>all these shit studios making shit games no one plays
Is Asha based?
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>>741159732
Fuck off, Deathloop is great if you can stand the jive talking nigga.
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>>741220157
More like the US is being looted in real time before our eyes.
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>>741159442
>xcancel
Kys libshit tranny
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to all the negros shilling deathloop: did you play it at release? the game was broken af with the enemies barely reacting. wtf are you smoking, it is all bait?
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>>741220453
Literally just play the game in French. All the dialogue is French as fuck, and how exchanges play out. English is the default language but it's clearly a game by French people trying to make a game where everyone speaks Englsh if that makes sense. Which it should, the Japs do it all the time.
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>>741162942
Culture war aside, the bad launch fucked Dishonored 2 more imo. The game was pretty hyped at the time, but the horrendous optimization fucked up the hype momentum at release.
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>>741220658
I'm shilling Arkane not Deathloop, but I'll say AI is clearly not this enemies strong point. All their games have some jank as reactions from guards. It's why I think Prey is my favorite, since the enemies are all alien monsters that specifically act like autists the wonky AI doesn't even register.
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>>741220571
Elon hired 7 Indians in the time it took you to write that btw
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>>741159442
>xcancel
based
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>>741219787
The reason I don't agree with completely dismissing Adventure is because it clearly has levels that are as adventure as you can get. Even its stealth focused levels sometimes have a few moments, even if just a tiny fraction. Some levels like Escape were clearly not designed with ghosting in mind, either. The fact theres people who prefer the sequel precisely because it largely did away with any of that stuff should be proof enough that TDP/Gold is not "purely" a Stealth game.
But, given your point about stuff like Ultima, I will concede that labelling it as just Adventure doesn't quite cut it, either. Its a Stealth Adventure game.
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>>741220453
Deathloop is almost great. My big complaint is that it's an almost entirely linear game pretending to be non-linear, which results it in not even giving you a chance to figure out the correct path yourself.
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>>741200251
You only like Knife of Dunwall because Duad could actually talk unlike the mute motherfucker Corvo, and that Dunwall was a focused linear story unlike a split storytelling like Dishonored 2.
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>>741160391
Harvey Smith's downfall has been disappointing to see. He is the perfect case study of seeing an artist's creative decline the more woke they become
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>>741218974
Theres a few like that in development i think. But i can't ever be certain that they'll even release or the progress has halted on one of them for all i know.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/4795460/The_Citadel_Project/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3674590/Noirmancer/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2642850/Serpens_Eternal_Thievery/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3970690/Project_Shadowglass/
And theres one with no page:
https://www.youtube.com/@huelesce
https://x.com/huelesce

These ones might be lesser Thief likes and something else entirely but are harder to categorize. Dishonored inspired or something i don't know.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2514180/Excised/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3248910/Deserter/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3999040/Devoid/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3994820/DreadBound/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3503810/TERRORtypeALCHEMY/
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>>741223997
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1260940/Core_Decay/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2788210/DEEP_STATE/

I just hope they'll see the light of day



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