>BFMTV journo says bloodbath coming for Sony studios>This isn’t exclusive to Bungie and Housemarque whose recent games floppedPlace your bets anons, who else is getting ACK’d?
>>741186836Why aren't the modern audience buying the games?
housemarque isn't getting shut down. no other studio is making those kinds of games.
>>741186836Beamdog is out.Haven is outWhoever made destruction all stars is outThe people that used to make games like little bit planet but now make no games
>>741186836does sony even own a single good studio?
>>741186836Should have asked BLM, faggots and trannies to support them back
>>741186836LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOOOOOOOOR
>>741186836Please let it be real. It would be so fucking hilarious to see western game industry crashing again.
>hero extraction shit flops>800,000 people lose their jobsi dont care
>>741186836Bend Studio 100%. They had live service sloppa cancelled last year so they had to pitch something which was rejected by Sony. This means they dont have anything even in active pre-production. 1 to 1 like Bluepoint situation basically.
>>741186932The modern audience doesn't play games. It's an aesthetic. It's a literally meee sticker on a laptop and a poster on a wall
>>741186836Returnal was good. So just fire who made Saros indian etc.Fire everyone that made any of the spidermans.Fire everyone that made any of the god of wars.Fire anyone that made astro bot.Pretty much fire everyone but Marathon Devs.Re-establish London, Soho, Leeds, Liverpool. Etc Wipeout and Getaway.Turn Guerilla back into Killzone, or Marathon, or something new.Stop with the Asian shit. If it is Asian or depicts Asians fire who did it.Same with niggers etc.Supply Square with Staff to make the Next FF good. Real time combat. Triggers and shoulder buttons.Make more devices and settings for disabled people. Eg incorporate PSVR in everything. Make it glasses. Make it a means to move and perform actions. Whatever people have. Like making sound. Blinking. Looking.Up the polling rate. And or use a better input medium.Anyone has a problem with no pedo shit. Fire them.
>>741186836wasn't marathon a huge success? I remembersome fucks making thread after thread praising it.
>>741186836>Marathon is a flopNo it isn't. It's one of the best games of this generation.
>>741186836why can't they ever give some chud off /v/ $200 million to make a video game, at least then it would make money and they might even have a valuable IP
What made them think that a pajeet MC was a good idea?
>>741186836>HosemarqUeAbout timeThose retarded nepo baby finns havnt made a good game EVERWhy does sony keep them afloat?
>>741186836wowee its almost like the numbers were all lies and these studios never made anything of value since sony and microsoft are willing to torch them all without a second thought
>Microsoft does it first with Xbox>Gets the shitty PR>Sony follows after with PlayStation>Gets almost nothing by comparison >As usualSony is really going to miss Xbox when they get sold off or spun off or whatever. They'll have to actually do something first for a change and accept the PR problems with it regardless.
>>741188140Nah. They're top tier. Saros is probably their first bad game.
>>741187916>Returnal was good. So just fire who made Saros indian etc.Dumbass soiboiWhy not hire the hr chicken who made returnal an ugly bitch?
>>741188140Returnal sold 1.5 million copies both on PS5 and PC and reminder it was one of first actual PS5 hardware exclusives and it released without competition. Sony bought studio during their panic buying spree after muttsoft. It took them 5 years to shit out Saaros and it bombed. Not suprising since Returnal sold like ass for praise it got and as I said even with big boost being one of first "next gen" PS5 only exclusive titles.
>>741186836Hopefully anyone who isn't Japanese gets fired. It's time to fully clean house from the failed Layden/Ryan/Hulst regime.
>>741188287>They're top tierHAHAHAHAsince acquired by sony, they have made norhing but mid indie slop
>>741186932Yeah, it's horrible what these people did. So many are now losing their jobs because modern audience people and journalists where defending the direction these studios went with their games and then apparently didn't buy them - Were they lying? That's so evil.
>>741188246Sony is waiting until last moment before quarter ends. MS just had leaked shit thats why. Sony is edging until last moment, same with other publishers like EA. If it doesnt leak then studios often learn about their closures same time public does for a reason lol.
>>741188082If only you knew how bad things really are.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFvN8PYwU-k
>>741188361What drove them to make the returnal protagonist an unappealing granny?Literally lost atleast million sales because of that single fact
>>741187916What a strange opinion.
>Sony and Microsoft are closing studios, laying off a ton of employees>new studios will form and hire a bunch of talented devs desperate for work>these studios won't have to deal with shareholders or parent companies/publishers stifling creativity>and yet they'll be hungry for their first games to be successfulthe future is looking good bros
>>741186836kwab
>>741186836SooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooInstead of making good and not pozzed games made with jewish dei advisors these CEOs and boards just shut down studios with no plans to return their money?What's next? Micronigger and SNOY completely closing their game dev and publishing divisions?I'm kinda puzzled. They literally don't want to earn money. With the jew you never win, eh?
Sony now owns Elden Ring, they don't need these losers
>"and then we told them they had to target the MODERN AUDIENCE to survive"
>>741188580>new studios will form and hire a bunch of talented devs desperate for workNot without Chinese or Saudi funding.
>>741188580>they will find financing to make their dream games!At best, they end up like Gang of Dragon
>>741186836>Xbox nigger deflectingBack to Twitter.
>>741188769A lot of these upcoming layoffs are from Tencent and NetEase owned or funded studios kek
>>741188908Its same journo who leaked muttsoft layoffs you lil snoygro.
>>741188082They went out of their way to cuck the pajeet MC too. I'd be furious if I was a jeet
>>741188580>talented devs>code monkeys and hacks that have no ideas and have never worked on anything goodat best you'll get more mixtapes
>>741188923Yea, all the funding has dried up. These layoffs are gonna feel pretty permanent.
>>741188580isn't MS full of contract workers now? you're not really gonna get quality of people who know they won't be around to see the job through until the end
>>741188580LOLMicrosaar will hire them to shit out another yearly call of duty title
>>741186932Turns out communists aren't very good capitalists.
all they had to do was make fun games, lmao
>>741186836The great game industry crash is upon us, finally.
The problem is almost exclusively american developershousemarques weirdo mc design decisions are influenced by the same retarded american higher upsIf i were a console publisher i would massively invest in cheaper asian and european studios, fill that exclusive library and take some creative risks for once by trying new genres and gameplay styles.And for the love of god stop hiring american/anglo writers for your games
>>741186932Short answer: Gaming industry is boring, Covid gave the industry false positive results, gaming is just something to waste/pass time with again.Longer answer: Nobody buys games anymore. We've known this for a long time now. Covid was the a huge false positive on this industry and prior to it the industry was going right in the shitter commercially.Any why should anyone buy games anymore? They are just asset flips of games that came out years ago with maybe one slight tweak, remasters, remakes and reimaginings that all look and play the same anyway. May as well just play something on the phone for a few minutes than throw away $70+ dollars on yet another "cinematic experience with stunning visuals #14839372", "extraction shooter #574928474", or "I flip around and kill things with a sword/gun with a bunch of lights and particle effects and stunning graphics #999999999999".It's boring and this was bound to happen, but this is what people cried and whined that they wanted (particularly the people who are now in their 30s and 40s who are the only ones left hold video games to this regard), so here we are. Nothing is exciting about playing games the same way you had for 4 decades, so mix that with the fact that there are many other things besides video games that take up the attention of the younger generations (where we didn't have as much growing up) and here we are.Finally nobody gives a shit about exclusive games locked to a console anymore except, again, the people who are now in their 30s and 40s. For everyone else, if they can't play a game on what they already have, they just find something else to do, play whatever they CAN get or don't play anything. Roblox for example would be nothing if it were exclusive to any of the boxes. So unless your game is multiplat, have fun trying to broaden your reach when console sales are stagnating.At least that's how I feel
>>741186972no, plenty of other studios are also making flops too
>>741189386housemarque is finnish retard
>>741188580you'll know things have stabilized when devs are publicly accepting of endless crunch again
>>741188449wow, that's a lot of games I've never heard of. I thought they just made returnal and saros
WE DON'T NEED YOU CHUDS, W-ACK!!!!!
>>741186836>fairgames still hasn't been canceledWhat kind of fucking retard is making these descisions at sony, do they enjoy burning money?
>>741188580>Assuming there are talented devs at those studios >Assuming there will be someone willing to finance them
Pretty much every game that succeeds these days comes from Japan or China or Korea or some random Eastern European Country. Theres no point even making games in America or Canada anymore as they all bomb and cost like half a billion to develop.
>>741189492fins are cucked>>741189386>The problem is almost exclusively american developers100%, I can't think of one western game I've played this year, last year the only one that comes to mind is hades 2 and even that was scuffed, but the gameplay was too good to ignore.
>>741189492housemarques writer is a brit
>>741189639You gotta wait until you burn just enough money on the game, rush the game out, watch it crash, then cancel the future dlc investments. This is the best business decision.
>>741189742also not american
>>741189492Your esl speak is right. Tey are retarded developers indeed
>>741189735hades 2 is woke af
Is there a large tech/vidya company that hasn't engaged in large layoffs in the past 3 years?
>>741189890and not american
>>741188580If they didn't make anything good at Microsoft, they won't make anything good on their own. Remember that Phil took a hands off approach for alot of these studios.
>>741189936Nintendo? Though I suppose most Jap studios are pretty safe so far.
>>741189907gameplay and music is nice, but yeah, I skip all the character interactions.
>>741189707China, Korea and Eastern Europe still produce slop. After the success of the monkey game they started spamming the shit out of bad 3rd person chinese action games and now nobody gives a shit about any of them. Korea is pumping out pure horseshit and the only dev that matters is a massive weaboo who spends all his time sucking up to japanese devs. Eastern Europe is still a demake factory + stalker clones. Once western europe rids itself of the lingering woke bullshit they will begin to carry the industry with Japan. America and Canada are permanently dead, the levels of inflation and rent fuckery are so high it's basically impossible to fund anything there.
>>741189386When you say Europe you should really say Eastern Europe because theres no point making games in places like England or Germany or whatever as they are just as bad as America.
>>741189936nintendocapcomcd projektfromsoft/all of segas non western departments
>>741189492They're finnished
>>741190031The uk still makes GTA, good racing games, some space sim shit and a few random hits here and there. Germany makes nothing and never did. I see alot of American money flooding into the UK in the future because it has third world country wages but the same cultural backbone as America.
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>>741186836They wont lay-off people that matter. They will still be a dei infested company so who cares.They lost their Asian third party connections and now rely on Western dei slop to save them which they won't.Hope they make intergalactic as the launch title for the ps6 and make that bald bitch the new mascot of the company so that they can go under faster.
>>741187916>Fire anyone that made astro bot.They already did that last year though?
>>741188580>new studios will form and hire a bunch of talented devs desperate for workok but what does this have to do with laid off western devs?
>>741187986If that trend-chasing "thing" was the best this generation could offer, Snoy is well and truly fucked.And if it really is "the best", why has it only earned around $50 million, which isn't enough to pay back even a quarter of its development budget? Why did the free week fail to revitalize the game? Why haven't the Destiny destitutes flocked to it like it was the promised D3?And most importantly: WHY THE FUCK HAS IT ONLY SOLD AROUND 300,000 COPIES IN PLAYSTATION?!
>>741189639Blame Herman hulst. Sony must like sucking his dick since he keeps green lighting these projects.
I think at this point it's just better to be an indie company
>>741190405It's too hardcore for the destiny crowd. The bots can fuck you up easily in fact I can't fathom playing this game with a controller. There are hazard everywhere in marathon 26 and add to that near constant pvp threat. The last 2 maps have very intricate level design and a good ratting player/team can fuck you up at any moment.
>>741187120Polyphonic for GT.San Diego for MLB.Asobi.Nixies, but they're a port specialist. Beyond that, what's on the bubble? Maybe Suckerpunch? Past that is dire.
>>741190001Zero asian studios have, none of them. western video games are fucked
>>741188287You have a VERY different idea of top tier than I do. But whoever thought they needed to go hollywood needs to get booted almost as much as Obsidian's art director.
>>741186836>let PS5 scalping run rampant for the first 18ish months for nice short term hardware sales figures to impress stakeholders with, which utterly wrecked the attach rate to a degree it still hasn't fully recovered from>burn bridges in Japan so badly that they completely surrendered its market to Nintendo; even Square Enix's faith was so shattered that they made a point of announcing that the next flagship FF and KH games are also launching day-and-date on Nintendo hardware>enacted a campaign to prioritize creating service games and outrageously budgeted "prestige" single player games with extremely little in between, which has caused a bunch of studios/devs to be axed to fund these efforts, only for said efforts to either be killed in the crib or euthanized soon after release (with one being the most expensive single-release failure in all of entertainment media)>resorted porting games to PC and Xbox for even a chance to make more money back on their astronomical dev budgets, and even their recent reverse-course only applies to singleplayer games>got scammed by cooked books to overpay for one of the most financially toxic developers in the modern industry, as a desperation counterbuy to Microsoft getting Zenimax>make said dev backburner their one actually relevant IP and forgo development of an obvious sequel in favor of clumsily resurrecting a defunct IP while making it have almost nothing to do with its original games whatsoever, and in a niche genre whose fans are already almost entirely spoken for, and preemptively give it a shit ton of runway just to delay the embarrassment of ANOTHER historical level failure so soon after Concord>the guy who planned out Sony's ill-fated GaaS focus was made CEO for some reason, but when he was demoted after Concord, he was only put back into his tastemaker positionBut Japan doesn't get to control Playstation anymore because they made a fucky wucky with the PS3. That's fair.
>>741189936Japan and Korea I think ,but I don't track Korea closely.N, Sega, Capcom, From, and Koei Techno, and I think Konami are all hiring if anything. N especially targets stability.Squenix cut their westerners.
>>741191375crazy to think how it all happenedthey seemed strong as fuck back in 2018 or so
>>741190920Anon you seen decent so Ill tell you straight.>Marathon is in a genre where they will NEVER make their money back especially if they continue development and dont just maintenance mode it. You can post cope about 'muh casuals' or other stuff about the genre being brutalling difficult but anyone with even a sliver of knowledge of the market would know it would fail. And thats before you even get to how the game is simply mid af overall with a mix of good and bad aspects. It cost too much to make for a genre which isnt going to grow and is already saturated, isnt going to spawn a new audience, generates bad will from fucking up their other game, had plagiarism controversy and other reasons. This isnt a No Man's Sky scenario, the writing is on the wall already and was even a year before release. Sony is merely stuck having to maintain it to keep the pretence of supporting games alive and to try and earn some money back over a long period (they wont earn enough to break even). If it was a smaller studio or even a big one but not bought by a big market player they wouldve already died.
I think the higher kikes who make decisions thought that pajeets, black people and women have more disposable income and it's a good market to get into. Whitey is getting old, jaded and maybe too hard to please ?
>>741188965Kill yourself Astaranx
>>741191567That was part of the reason I got a Piss5 back in mid-2021. Never had a PS4 and thought that the Piss5 would be decent in the long run. As it stands, the last game I bought for it was Astro Bot in 2024 and the only game I’m considering getting for it is FF7 Revelation. If I knew this would be the fate of the Piss5, I would have just told past me that it would go down the same route as the WiiU (last console I bought before getting a Piss5).
>>741191375I hate Jim Ryan and his retarded Dutch sidekick so goddamn much.How on earth do you fuck up this badly when your competition is post-Mattrick Xbox? HOW?
>>741187916>Pretty much fire everyone but Marathon Devs.Lol those are the first guys you want to fire.
I said it once, i say it again and i say it until i die.The biggest mistake the entire industry made was allowing streamers to stream brand new games for short term pr and reach, its like as if hollywood allowed streamers to stream the newest movie and then complains that no one is buying them. How fucking retarded as a industry can you even be? Of course no one buys new games when they just can watch them be played and no "just make good gameplay" doesnt really change the calculation be fucking honest.
>>741189442all true.interesting and novel games are still selling really well no matter the quality or budget, especially anything that can form a strong community around itself.indie, gacha, and platform (roblox) developers are much much much faster at adapting to shifts in the market. costs are lower, prices are lower, and expectations are lower.ecelebrities, short form content and the oversaturation of the market have made releasing provocative and trendy stuff very successful.brand recognition is still very important of course, but IP erosion is reaching new heights. Everyone is licensing there IPs out to fortnite. gamesworkshop licensed out the warhammer universe to like 50 literal who studios, we got a zelda-flavored crypt of the necrodancer game. palworld beat the pokemon company in court. the hitman devs got to make a james bond game. what's the point of playing some weird shitty vibecoded halo remake when you can emulate the original.I hope AAA explodes entirely but what i expect to happen is for them to start gatekeeping the player market via hardware. we've seen apple and epic battle in court. what would happen if microsoft released windows 13 and said "the only way you can run programs on your computer is if you get them from the microsoft store". they would be standing on a pile of money in one stroke, if they could only get away with it.
>>741186836Anyone got that meme of all vidya devs shooting themselves in the face?
>>741192124Without youtubers telling retards what to think, no one would fucking care about fallout nv, because before influencers changed people minds about it, everyone fucking despised it.It's like you forgot sub 40 user score in first month.DD2 wouldn't sell 3m either, without influencers shilling it like crazy, because game itself was garbage.Face it, streamers really help sales.Also, if you decide to not rely on them, they can take it as personal insult and try to shit on your game(mh rise with khezu dude and team darkside, or wo long with assmongol)
>>741192124It doesn't kill anything but bad games because with bad games you get to see how truly awful they are. It doesn't even kill movie games or story stuff like Dispatch if they're decent enough, only garbage like Mixtape that nobody was going to buy anyway. They literally pay streamers to play some games as an advertisement but it only succeeds if the game is actually good otherwise it does the opposite.
IT KEEPS HAPPENING
>>741186932plenty of games are selling, just not these ones - stop making up bullshit excuses like it's industry wide - your games just fucking suck because of your feminine as fuck DEI studios
>>741187916this is satire right?
>>741192301>>741192312i completely disagree and you guys have to admit that the studios making those games at the very least deserve a cut from the revenue the streamers are making by literally streaming the games.
>>741191612Yes, Marathon isn't profitable. Yes, it has a retarded budget with (almost) nothing to show for it.But this is nothing new, Bungie mismanagement has been a thing since the Destiny 1 days. Their answer for destiny underperforming were always to get a chunk of investor money coupled with employees lay off.Marathon is continuing under the trajectory bungie has set for destiny, either you or sony likes it or not. Except instead of being a product appealing to the masses Marathon is a niche game with unappealing art style and steep learning curve.Why should I care if sony is reeling from the loss of profitability on marathon, should a console manufacturer stop making games? What then?And should I remind you that the Bungie devs learned the same way as the players that further development on Destiny is to end without prior notice? Who gets to make a call like that and how we as players get to voice our concern upon this decision? No one is pleased in this outcome.
>>741188468bullshit, they sold out to cultural marxists so they could get their blackrock bucks - mission accomplished - all the smart talented people get suppressed or flee
>>741186836Housemarque didn't learn from Returnal and went and made a game with a jeet and a woke background story about his wife going lesbo. These niggers need to die. In fact, every single Sony studio need to be shut don and for the employees to just die, especially Neil Cuckmann. Please get cancer and die.
>>741186932The devs told me not to buy them on Twitter :)
>>741189442how many shrink pills did you need to be on to cope this much
>>741189707turns out the worst kind of marxism is black power feminist marxism
>>741186836>close studiosHaven is so fucking dead.
>>741186932It's only american studios closing because their games are shit
reminder bungie cost just as much as the entire star wars ip
>>741192847no way bro, when has sony fired a brand new team before their game even launches.
>>741192124every single story game having a 10 hour playthrough video on youtube is far more damaging
>>741186932Only nerds buy games
>>741192301delusional troon
>>741188246Sony's been doing that shit for decades but no one wants to call them out on it in the 'media' because they're all in Sony's pocket.
>>741192906I'd rather play marathon than watch a Disney+ star wars show
>>741192990But enough about yourself
>>741192919Manchester StudioNeon Koi
>>741186836
>>741193085Don't for get Dark Outlaw Games
>>741192702But Bungie was accountable to itself as it was their money once they borrowed it. Now its not their money, its Sony's money which is borrowed from someone else. Bungie would do whatever it takes to not die and had the freedom to try. now they are cuckchained under Sony's shadow and live and die on Sony's wims. >Marathon is continuing under the trajectory bungie has set for destinyWtf is this supposed to mean? Its entirely separate. >Niche gameThats fine, the problem you dotn seem to realise as youre retarded is that niche games still need to turn a profit if theyre the main focus of your large company with a very large budget. If it was a smaller substudio or had a very small budget it would be a fine way to try and organically grow an IP. Instead they tried to strongarm their way into it with a bloated budget and are paying the price. What part of this doesnt make to you? They are MAKING NO MONEY or generating any non fiscal benefit from the game in the form of being a loss leader or cementing themselves in a competitive area of the market. They are gaining no value from it and have to save face to deter losing even more.>Why should I care if sony is reeling from the loss of profitability on marathon,Because the game you are dickriding dies, gets shut down. You are also the consumer not rhe business. They have pissed of people investing in them and this has knockon effects on their business which as the topic of the thread shows generates bad will/PR. They also have less money to try and fund other games which may have actually been good or can only cover half baked versions of them. >Bungie devs learned the same way as the playersMeans fuck all. Most people who actually play games could tell it would die and they were overinvested in it. Poor risk management.>Who makes a callThe people looking at this in charge of saving money. people not being pleased is irrelevant beyond Sony not being pleased. They are the one with the power and risk. 1/2
>>741187704Bluepoint deserved to be shut down solely for suggesting the idea of a Remake of the SoTC remake. That's not something a healthy studio would consider doing, it's the sign of a studio that is out of ideas. I understand why Bend doesn't want to make a Days Gone 2 but they still could do something with that IP.
kek why is there a marathon shill in the thread?
>>741186932>boot up new $100 aaa game>facescanned soulless models everywhere, no personality and every character is unremarkable>same copypasted console safe approved menu>gameplay mechanics devolve into picking up 4 types of scrap to craft menial upgrades so nothing looted in the world feels good>everything is sterile to ensure no one gets offended>remakes remakes remakesYeah it's a fucking mystery
>>7411931942/2sony are the ones with the risk and are in a position where they might be better off/ gain more value from gutting the game and Bungie and writing it off as a loss. You dont seem to understand the actual business or finance side of the product youre shilling for and are trying twitterfag tier copes abotu morality and playerbase views. Who cares what the playerbase wants when theyre tiny and dont cover the cost of keeping the game alive and future development? Nevermind the initial dev costs. The market and the gaming Community have pretty much said they dont want the product to the same degree as the development costs for it. If the game was low budget and found an audience itd be fine but its not. In addition you have bad PR for the game as its viewed as dead/a flop which fucks it up even more.Its a zombie or a soon to be one thats merely a decaying puppet body on the verge of death. Only a retard or someone with infinite wealth would try and keep it afloat, not a company that NEEDS money to cover other fuck ups or to pursue other immediate ventures.
>>741192669Streaming is a tough job, there is no reason why game devs deserve the money xQC gets from babysitting his chat. That's the real job of a streamer, being a babysitter to some of the worst people in human society rather than play games.
>>741186932This is the gaming industry collapse, anon. Only the indie shall inherit the earth.
>>741193429>>gameplay mechanics devolve into picking up 4 types of scrap to craft menial upgrades so nothing looted in the world feels goodPeopel still defend that in elden ring
I am 100% convinced that Return would have been fine with any other main character but a pajeet. They literally picked the worst time imaginable to put some stinky Indian as the lead in their action game. Nobody wants to play as one. We're all sick of seeing them in our country let alone our vidya.
>>741187916>Supply Square with Staff to make the Next FF good. Real time combat. Triggers and shoulder buttons.I'm pretty sure this is the exact opposite of what Square wants to do these days.
>>741189492More like Housemarque is finished,
>>741186836Damn, RIP Housemarque. SAAROS looks kinda fun from the gameplay I've seen, but I don't want to play as a Saar.
>>741193723>sony isn't willing to drop another 100 million to make a game that barely sells 500k copiescome on sony, do it again, it'll be even funnier the third time
>>741186836just one more us-western industry dying, gaming is thriving in east europe, china and japan.US is 100% gambling on either AI or birthrate crisis to keep it s position if both fail it s over
>>741186932They just virtue signal
>>741193429Remakes are selling a lot thoughbeit
>>741192124>"just make good gameplay" doesnt really change the calculation be fucking honest.It doesn't? If the people watching the game see that the gameplay is good, they will want to play the game themselves. The problem is most of these games have dogshit gameplay.
>>741186836>>741186932Turns out the "modern audience" of women, blacks, and various fags that game makers seem to repeatedly target is actually miniscule and not actually relevant. Huh, who would have thought. Maybe they should instead make games that normal male gamers want to play again?
>hating capitalismHow about you go live in north korea, fags?
why is every thread about this is some random faggot's tweet
>>741193430I'm not shilling for marathon. Ballooning development costs as been a thing at Bungie since Destiny 1. Why should I care about sony making a profit or not, they make CONSOLES and they need GAMES. You just see marathon as an obstacle toward a new destiny game which is illogical but this is the present truth daddy sony has given to you.So you throw your fists in the air demanding marathon to be teared down to make way for a new destiny game or the complete annihilation of bungie as a studio.It seems to me that you would have been happier with activision's plan for bungie demanding a new destiny game every 2 year for 10 years. Quite the saddening thought for a franchise that is basically capeshit in space with gay robots and pride flags.
>>741194082Tweets looks nice and beautiful designedText posts don't. The 4chan needs to give us bbcode or merkdown. And then tweets will stop.
>>741193995> If the people watching the game see that the gameplay is good, they will want to play the game themselves. In disney fantasy land maybe but in actual lived reality no this usually doesnt happen in any numerical worthy way and the fact that it literally isnt happening should clue you in that it is.. you know.. not happening no matter the game and gameplay.. or you know it would happen. the excuse of "hurr shit gameplay" doesnt work for the simple reason that basically all games get streamed so there is bound to be games among them that you consider to have good gameplay and it still doesnt move the needle in terms of numbers watchers switching to be players.The problem is effort you have to put in effort to play a game no matter how minimal but watching it you dont have any effort, thats why everyone just watches new games no matter if the gameplay is good or not and thats why the industry was retarded to allow newest games to be streamed, at the very least the studios deserve a cut from the revenue generated by streamers streaming new games.
>>741189985they just said that so you would think their games are going to be good and buy them
>>741193995Are you underage or actually mentally challenged?People are retarded and believe what they are told.
>>741186836I did this
>>741187916The fact that Returnal sounds like return urinal will never not be funny to me.
>>741192301Asmongold shit on Wo Long because it's a fucking awful game, easily the worst Team Ninja game and it's not even close.
>>741193995This.I watched some streams of that 007 game and the gameplay is by far the most safe, boring, pointless AAA fare I've seen in years, it was literally just Watch_Dogs 2 but without the parkour.The gadgets, the hacking, the shooting, the braindead AI, the shitty stealth, all of it SCREAMED Watch_Dogs 2.
>>741194204I really disagree with this. Games are ultimately games and they are meant to be played. The people who just watch games on Twitch and YouTube were never going to play the game anyway. To me, it's like blaming piracy for game studios closing down. "Hurr shit gameplay" actually is a valid statement since game devs seem to have forgotten how to make games fun and enjoyable.
>>741194559>defending assmongoloid
>>741194139Youre fuckign stupid arent you. You care that they make profit so that they can continue to makes games. The thing you like/want. I think Destiny is shit as well but it has enough of an audience to be profitable. That is actually valuable. Id rather they make other good games but they havnt and likely cant now as they have a Marathon sized hole in their budget. I dont know how to dumb this down even more for you, are you really this fuckign retarded that you cant understand how prodit works in a business? Sony make consoles and sell them at a loss. They own game companies as Bungie is essentially a Sony subdepartment but on large scale. Bungie's losses are their losses, even more so when you factor in they paid money for the company as a whole even before you factor in dev costs. This money could have been used on other things that secured more reliable money printers (buying other 3rd party companies that arent shit like bungie) or funding 1st part devs. >So you throw your fists in the air demanding marathon to be teared down to make way for a new destiny game or the complete annihilation of bungie as a studioYou are a retarded nigger. I Dont care about Destiny. Whether I hate or like Marathon is irrelevant to the points Im brining up about it. It makes NO FUCKING VALUE to either Bungie or Sony. It isnt a viable product to either business. Youre posting all this contained with Bungie's games bullshit that I dont care about and have no impact on what Im stating as youre too retarded and think I have an emotional attachment to their current state beyond going 'LMAO XD' at them dying as itd be funny. They arent making money and could have/can make more money and survive to potentially make something actually profitable/good/and maybe to my tastes if they dont fuck up further and cut losses.You sucking yourself off thinking Marathon is some rad hardcore shit like a 2010's MLG faggot doesnt solve Bungie or Sony's money issues regarding Marathon.
>>741186932Because those games don't appeal to them like the actual top games on Playstation (Sportsball, Fortnite, Minecraft, Roblox, and now Marvel Rivals). Spider-Man 2 was being packed into every piece of Playstation hardware imaginable, and people were just giving the codes away or selling them at a steep discount because nobody wanted it, they weren't buying Playstation to play PS Studios games. But thanks to the way Sony cooks the books it looks like Spider-Man 2 is the highest-selling PS5 game in existence despite that.
>>741194668Sorry incel but I still won't visit your shitty fextralife wiki.
>>741193945Are they?The main ones that seem to be selling are the RE ones.
>>741193512>A healing item that only affects torrent even though 90% of the time torrent gets hit you will also get hit and the flask heals you both>Bone arrows that do less damage and have less range than wooden arrows you can buy for practically nothing>JarsI can't remember anything else you could make. The crafting in Elden Ring was even more retarded and useless than in most other games
>>741188246>Sony follows after with PlayStation>Gets almost nothing by comparison >As usualYou do realize the Sony either owns or heavily invests in the majority of these gaming websites right? Of course they're not going to bite the hand that feeds them. Even Geoff Keighley's various events are funded by Sony.
>>741192127>what would happen if microsoft released windows 13 and said "the only way you can run programs on your computer is if you get them from the microsoft store"?Windows would implode and die. Adoption rates from 10 to 11 were already awful due to how shitty the latter was at release, and even now it's such a complete mess that every part of the OS is broken and bugged. Windows' reputation as a whole has been soiled by the black mark that is 11, on a scale unseen since ME. If Microslop tried that shit, they wouldn't "get away with it", to put it lightly. The tense situation between Microsoft and its customers would quickly degenerate into full-on opposition and revolt.No sane person would willingly join such monstrosity. Hell, not even I, who have used Windows my whole life, would touch such thing eith a ten-mile pole, especially after seeing first-hand how badly 11 fucked up.On simple terms. Microsoft tries that shit, Windows dies. Horribly.
>AAA corps are willing to lose trillions because they chose to not add 50K extra polygons to the assets
