hows your gamedev going?
I think my userbase is making me misanthropic.
>>741211761you have a userbase? I don't even know if people play my game after they download it because no one ever leaves comments
>>741212451My userbase likes to play the tutorial then give up instantly after playing the game for 3 minutes. I don't know what could possibly be getting 80% of my players to do the exact same thing because none ever tell me what it is.
>>741211761My userbase made some tracks, also the menus can be navigated by mouse now.
>>741212661Either your tutorial is really shit or unfunctional, meaning players are hitting a wall and leaving.Or they've finished the tutorial and feel like the game isnt very good.If you can't keep players in the game for longer than 3 minutes, its one of those.
I realized I was flailing around in the dark and went back to the drawing board. Bit the bullet and am now writing up a proper GDD.
I just don't know what kind of game I want to make, so I gave up on making one
I need to make more dudes for my gameHere's this dude, I call him DocI dunno if he's a doctor or what his deal is really
>>741212661post the itch/ dl link and i'll tell
>>741211017My playerbase hates rasko
>>741215187nta but itch has apparently been down all morning
>>741215038Isn't that the deer from dandertail?
Are incremental games still the "low effort free money" genre or has it become oversaturated?
>>741215549it's the new age zombie game paradox.There's simultaneously too many, but people who actually buy and play them still want more.
>>741215462I don't even know what that is so any resemblance is purely coincidental
>>741215549There are over 500 incrementals in this next fest. with 4 months between fests that means at least 4 of them release every day on average.
>>741211017bad, i have no time for devving anymore
>>741215549i still dont even know what an incremental is, just shit like cookie clicker?
>>741217441Yeah. And Vampire Survivors like games. They moneymaxx by prioritizing gambling mechanics, number go up, an visual effects. They're the gamer equivalent of Cocomelon.
>>741217441Haha dookie licker
>>741211017>be busy>take 2 month break>come back>pic relatedfuck
>>741215549I had decent success with an incremental, made a second and it's absolutely tanked. None of the content creators that played my first have played the second so it's had 0 exposure.Considering the first incremental was about pouring glasses of water, I thought a more in depth game would do better but alas.
>>741211017I put it off for almost a year now even with people waiting for it. Hoping Fable 5 gets back online later so I can cheat my way to finishing
Stomp stomp, brrrt.
What was that $3 game someone was talking about in the last thread that released last week and made a boatload? Can't find it in the archives.
>>741219015What does decent success look like? Side hobby money or job money?
>>741222010side hobby.Made the game in about 3 weeks, net rev is $5.5kIt would be job money if I kept pumping them out
>>741219015>I thought a more in depth game would do better but alas.This is exactly where you messed up. The incremental brainlet audience doesn't care for depth or gameplay, they just want a quick dopamine rush.
I'm so aggressively depressed and game devving takes so much man-hours it's insane.Seriously, yesterday I must have spent eight hours straight game devving and all I've got to show for it is two new breakable props with physics and particle effects for each.I've no freaking idea how these young kids manage to do it, 18 years old, 22 years old, and they do it while attending college, and while holding down a job, and somehow they still have the time to learn how to play an instrument and RP in VRChat with their furry friends, it's insanity.These people are truly built different, they weren't kidding about it.
>>741223002learn how to take shortcuts and be okay with "good enough"like for your props, depending on your game it could be something like>actual prop>random blob meshes in the color of the prop>particle smoke or somethingthen when you break it in game, the actual prop is disabled, a bunch of random blob meshes spawn in its spot, then you do some physics to make them disperse, and play the particle effect to cover up the original mesh getting disabled.the nice thing about indie games is you can lie and say it's an artistic choice, when in reality it's a limitation of time. limitations force you to act creatively. who knows? maybe in 20 years some retards will think "WOW he chose this as his aesthetic for art reasons!" like how they do it with psx graphics.
>>741212661That sounds frustrating. Have you ever tried having a friend or someone who hasn't played it before stream their first attempt for you? Just watch and see what they do. Don't tell them things, just let them figure it out and if it's painful, well, you know what's going on.
>>741215332works on my machine
>got a prototype 90% done>for some reason get a mental block where I can't get myself to finish it, nor add content
I've got a new demo! Prologue battle + 6 battles along with plot and towns between. Give it a try, even if just for a battle or two! In the "Other" section of the settings menu, you can turn action scenes to player phase only or off which will make battle a lot faster, in case you don't want to spend too much time dicking around for a demo. There's a link for a survey on the itch page, I'd really appreciate feedback there.https://jebbestermakesagame.itch.io/shieldlinked
instead of using dex, i'm using cunning (cunn) for my game
>>741226490youre nowhere near finished. Youll know you are near finished when you have content that needs to be cut.
>>741226560[sob emoji]
>>741226646>prototype>>741226490same but I took a break so I'm pretty sure I could wrap stuff up in a day or two. no "dopamine craving" as soon as I think about opening the project anymore.
Had a pretty good weekend devving. Got the end vibe/final looks dialed in for my tavern builder game. Top down and third person camera. >>What happened to your anime dragon game I still got that concept, but the sheer amount of content needed for that game is too much. It works better if I do this game first and then that game. Plus, I am a terrible landscape artist. >>741222339This is why I am hesitant to implement economy in my game. People just want to place stuff and get new decorations to play with. No reason to gate it behind resource gates. >>741226490Screenshot?>>741218770Lol, is that your own comment or from a dev that you are working with?
>>741227128Aislop?
>>741227374No... these are in-game screenshots. >>741226521This is better than I thought it would be. Engaging opening and lore. You should tell the player what the red plus sign is when you click an enemy, though. Also, I might be stupid, but I would expect that when I left click a unit and then left click an enemy unit, I would expect the option to attack. It worked the first time, but then no longer. Maybe this is a bug? Or maybe put the attack order explicity in the context menu that you already have.
>>741211017Craziest captcha I've ever had to solve
>>741228035
>>741215549theyve become so dumbed down that any sort of input at all is too much for the modern audienceyou cant do anything interesting with the genre anymore
charge atk and working on the up attack>>741228035looks pretty, nice work
>>741228035Your bloom feels really high
>>741228303Do you mean globally, or localized to parts of the screen that are very bright? I'm currently in the process of replacing all the materials I use with my own shaders, which allows me lower the brightness without killing the saturation.The bright red of the apple will be toned down soon, for example. If you think it's too bloomy overall I'll take note of that. I've had several comments from people that the brightness is too much so it's definitely something I'll need to keep working on
>>741228637>>741228303I like the bloom, it makes the christmas scene look very christmasy
>>741228637The sun and the shine on the armour/helmet are blindingly bright. Also I'm not sure if it's a texture thing or a lighting thing, but the plume also reflects very bright white like it's a metal surface.
>>741227876Thanks for giving it a try! Yeah, the red plus sign thing, I do mention clicking the enemy to persist their attack range but I don't explicitly mention the symbol which is a bit confusing, thanks for letting me know. As for the next note, turns always are Movement -> Action so you always need to complete your movement first before selecting an enemy. If you don't want to move, you just click the character again as if selecting their current location as their movement destination. But that's true, I could just add something to make it so clicking an enemy that you're already in range of will skip the movement and assume you wanted to attack them. I don't think I'd want to do this for enemies you need to move to attack since being very particular with your movements is important and I wouldn't want to train players to just accept whatever tile I assumed was best to move to.Thanks again!
>>741228746Plume is an oversight. It's a fresnel effect that I haven't tuned for that part of the model yet, which I somehow didn't notice. Thanks for letting me know
This is the last garden that will be in the game on release (3 in total). It was fun making all these fake reflections, but it's time to work on the actual game now.Next Fest going so-so so far.
>>741228750>>If you don't want to move, you just click the character again as if selecting their current location as their movement destination.Yeah, that is where I was screwing up. As you say, I just want to attack then, considering I am standing next to the enemy... but I can see why assumptions would hurt player expectations too (e.g. with other types of enemies). That is why I think the context menu could use an attack button. >>741228938Can everyone apply for Next Fest? What are the rules for submitting? Do you need a demo? How much new prospects are you drawing in thanks to Next Fest?>>741228035Collect-a-thon type of game?
>>741229446>Can everyone apply for Next Fest? What are the rules for submitting? Do you need a demo? How much new prospects are you drawing in thanks to Next Fest?nta but yeah you need a demo. whole point of next fest is its a demos thing and you can only participate in one next fest per game.
Finished the launcher- manage multiple client versions- game cache management- server browser pulls from API- considered ricing it like an old school loader
>>741215038The art is cool! Does anyone here use Aesprite?
>>741230506I love Aseprite. It has basically all the features I could want.
>>741230506Perhaps
>>741230708show your art
worked on improving explosions and fire visualsgonna do some more tweaks like that and next month ill get down to gameplay and level design>>741226521very cute arti think your UI space usage could be a bit cleaner though. with the player/character screen, you have a third of it used by the (cute) character, but that leaves the other 2/3rds to contain all of the stats where it ends up looking very packed compared to the empty player image area (maybe because the player images dont have a background?)i'd consider changing some placements around - maybe even having the player image in the middle with texts on either side?good stuff either way. good luck with the demo anon
>>741230506Thanks, and yeah I been using Aseprite for years now as my main pixel art program
>>741230708im impressed by how much time youve dedicated to aseprite, but you know its free, right? all you have to do is download the git repo and compile.
>>741230506i use ms paint or yy-chr usually
>>741231373Thanks for the feedback! Also damn, that looks crazy cool
made a custom gradient editor in my Volume Profile, it can:>assign 2 gradients, one for world objects, one for masked objects>i can drag/drop any picture into the gradient editor, and it'll automatically populate an 8 color gradient sorted by luminance and create an 8x1 png texture that gets cached in memory>can set thresholding when drag/drop any picture in case its not that colorful, by default it picks the 8 most prevalent colorsits the coolest thing ive ever made. its so easy to use but probably took 2-3 months to build (just on and off, its a side thing of a side thing). next im gonna write an extension for it so i can import .xml gradients from adobe color.
I'm following some godot car tutorial. This shit is pretty fun and godot is really easy to use, most of the time.
>>741211017terribly. i can't think of any satisfying ideas that aren't a copy of something that already exists. and every time i play a game my idea for what i want to make changes to fit what i just played
What do you guys do for sound, and when did you add it? I've made decent progress working on my game but haven't bothered doing sound at all yet.Do you search for individual sounds or just grab sound packs?
>>741232535>i can't think of any satisfying ideas that aren't a copy of something that already existsmeccha chameleon came out last week and has sold 2 million copies. it went from 1 million sales to 2 million sales in literally one day. it's just prop hunt with painting tacked on. you SHOULD be copying other people.
>>741232791>meccha chameleonJesus Christ, that looks like complete slop. Some people get all the luck.
>>741233031it's barely luck. they took a popular game concept (prop hunt), made a friendslop version of it, added in a unique mechanic and boom.
>>741233031I'm gonna fucking rope
If you could quit your job, have all your expenses paid indefinitely, and live comfortably without worrying about money, how would you go about being a solo dev?
>>741233098A lot of people make friendslop and it doesn't catch on. I'm guess this one got grabbed by a couple big name streamers.
>>741233186Hire people smarter and more talented than me than me to do the things I suck at, and then handle the things I can handle? No man is an island, Anon. Not even Toby Fox the "famous solo dev" made Undertale by his own.
>>741233290What would you hire people for specifically (music?) and isn't this more of a scope question?
>>741233363Definitely music, I can handle some art and code things myself but get some help for the shit 2complex4me I suppose.
>>741233290AI can fill 80% of the gaps and soon more.
>>741233031Okay, the concept is pretty good, but from 1 to 2 million in one day and from 2 to 3 million in the following day is just nuts beyond anything. The developer sells it for 6 euro's. When accounting for price differences in other countries and taxes, this guy earned at least 7 million in just 3 weeks time. Oh brother...
>>741233186This was a totally hypothetical question btw, and I am not talking about myself, hahaha.
need some good game ideas that don't require a full asset creation pipeline
>>741233438AI can find a simple bug in my repository with a ton of prodding. It's not gonna be capable of anything more complex if the costs to keep developing it get too high and nobody involved in this whole Punzi scheme has made that money back yet.>b-butI use Claude and it's still decent. But literally no AI company out of all of them has made a single cent off these models so far. They're jacking up the prices to compensate, but it's gonna get to the point companies would rather hire humans again rather than pay for the subscription.
>>741233631make a roguelike
>>741233631Zork remake
Never made a game I've had the urge recently to do something in the vein of the old Army Men games, toys duking it out in real world environments. No idea where to start though. I imagine 2D would probably lend itself to beginners more in regards to creating assets/animating but 3D would be my preferred environment, just to capture the scale/spectacle of it, having helis, landing craft in the fish pond, el Alamein style tank warfare in the sandpit etc
>>741233438What cost percentage are you willing to pay for AI vs a human?Let's say a human is $1000/moWould you pay $500/mo for AI? $800/mo? $1200/mo but you can work it like a slave?
>>741234165That does sound fun. Just pick an engine and start dicking around.
I have a character, but have no idea what kind of game to put him in.
>>741234435you are a writer or concept artist (depending on how you created this "character"). you do not want to make video games and that's okay.
Yet another day without project goblin at my grabby pawsle sigh>>741234435Sounds like you have your priorities backwards.
sup /dev/came back to deving after a year, i got sacked so i got some free time. honestly it's been pretty comfy, however i'm almost sure nothing will come of it
>>741234565Actually I do have games I want to make, there's just one character that I specifically don't know what genre of game he should be in.
also, forgot to add, what a fucking shitshow over at /agdg/, fucking hell. i mean, we're in a schizo central here but even considering 4chan standards it's a mess
>>741231886Shibro...
>>741234938It ain't me foo!
>>741233631frogger clone with clever gimmickcrossyroad company just got sold for 40million
Steam approved my game for release, gotta make a new trailer and announce the release date
>>741234801that is not how you come up with a game idea. that is how you come up with an idea for a book or movie. gameplay is the foundation, not something to sprinkle on top of a plot or character idea.
>>741234792>i'm almost sure nothing will come of itstop thinking that. if you're certain, or even "almost sure" for something, your brain and subconscious mind will conspire to prove yourself right.so if you have that mindset, you will fail.im not saying to get into delusional thinking that you're gonna be a great success, because if you do that you will constantly be at odds with yourself while you are still in the process of creating.i'm saying, have an open mind and take a chance. who knows?watch this frank zappa video, its about the music industry, but if you adopt his mindset of take a chance, you will give yourself room to build something cool.when you take a chance, everything's open to possibilities. all your brain will see are opportunities because you dont know what happenshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcGIAm17yXA
For anyone that made a multiplayer game in Godot, what resources do you recommend as a guide?>>741233631A Klonoa inspired puzzle platformer in first person. You can make the environments and enemies as abstract as you want.
>>741233827already done>>741233891are text adventure games even popular anymore?>>741235041i guess maybe if there was a fun gimmick to it
>>741235326the assets really are the hard part, i don't have either the skill or the patience to make assets for a whole game, it would either have to be paid or free assets
>>741235230thanks anon but it's cool, i'm not a doomer or anything. i worked as a dev so it's nothing new for me and i have finished a lot of projects.i just consider this a learning experience and an enjoyable pastime, and if anything comes out of it, even better
>>741235552hooraymost of my advices posts are partially what i need to hear too so some of it is projections lol
added trails
>>741235720hey man, as long as it works for you then it's a good methodi knew someone who literally gaslit himself to get better so
Getting ready to take my 2nd nap of the dayI'm too sleepy to dev bros...
>>741234630>goblindemo's ready and it's going through some final tests, so expect release today or tomorrow
>>741236003Neat, looking forward to it.
>>741235823background changes look good, characters more visible now
>>741235823to be honest it's weird that the light guy shoots slow af projectiles. I'd expect straight light beams
>>741236181hope you like it anon
>>741236410it does have straight beams in other attacks>>741236371thanks
just published the demo for my game:https://tintodev.itch.io/project-goblin
>>741233769From my experience, AI can get any script in unity correct first try. If you give claude access to your files, mistakes drop further. Shit only gets bad if you try to make it write more than individual scripts at once.
I vibe coded this in threejs because i am curious about systems
>>741239135Different NPCsbut question is what should i make with themhorror game or something like shop sim would be easy but hacky i would like to make procgen skyrim but starfield already exists
>>741238296nice! gonna check it out later today or tmw, im on linux so ill let you know how it runs on proton
>>741239261anal[spolier]og[/spoiler] horror
>>741239551thanks anon! there's only a windows version, but I tested it on my steam deck by adding it to Steam and it works perfect there
Are none of you guys worried that you'll get linked back to 4chan and then you'll get cancelled?
>>741240031No not really
>>741240031nobody cares
>>741240031i havent given it much thought. overall i really dont care. if you find success, someone will be mad about it and try to cancel you. really doesnt matter where you came from, its all the same.
How do you do collision between players and enemies in a game like DMC or Ninja Gaiden?
>>741240031Well it's fine as long as you don't say most vile shit attached to your original work"Hey it was a fun place and people gave fair criticism some times"
>>741238296having to click through a "no, I won't give you money" screen to get a demo feels like unwarranted friction. is there no way to get rid of this step? just give me a straight download link. there should not be an option to PAY for a DEMO.
>>741240354..Yeah man you're 2 years away from doing this dream game. look up a tutorial in the engine you surely have picked out already.
>>741240475thats pretty common on sites like itch or gumroad. no way to circumvent it as far as i'm aware.
>>741240475give me your money anon
>>741221453Nice
>>741223002most devs are vibe coding that's how. AI is only really good for coding
>>741233031The fact that you're a bitter troon is why nobody buys your shit
>>741240031I don't have social media nor a job so I'm not really worried
>>741240673There is no tutorial for something like this.How do 3D action games avoid characters landing on each other and stuff
>>741240475There is but it's easy to overlook and just leave "$0 or Donate" clicked>>741241061That's cope, it just gets a lot easier and faster when you have a lot of experience
>>741241254.. you give them a sphere collider to slide you off or something.
>>741241369Anon that’s not how it works
>>741241254Have you made a 2d game or atleast prototypes?
>>741241298>There is but it's easy to overlook and just leave "$0 or Donate" clickedthank god because I was also planning on using itch for the WIP demo of my game. and I'm not gonna lead people to a site that looks like I'm begging for donations from people who are consenting to playing an AD!!! for my game.
>>741240031Lol no.>don't apologize>go to Twitter and double down>profit
>>741241393This isn’t 2D
>>741241383Anon, it CAN work. real devs build and test, don't shitpost about trivial problems.
>>741240031I'll add a 4chan post as an inspirational quote in the begining of the opening cutscene
>>741238296Most excellent gobbo, I shall test it tomorrow.
>>741241486Learn basics of 2D first You can learn a lot of physics and collision
>>741241509It DOESN’T work, because I actually TRIED that.Here’s how my current setup works>Both player and enemy are governed by character controllers, zero rigidbody>The problem is that character controller collision is incredibly strict and the idea of clipping is practically nonexistentI’ve tried, there’s no way to modify what they can and cannot collide with. Character controller collides with everything solidly and I cannot change this.
>>741240812there is a way to circumvent it, just disable the option to give you money altogether
>>741241486>>741241813imo 2D is a whole different ballpark requiring skills that don't all translate to a 3D project. I would recommend anon to make a character controller in a 3D project right away.>>741242017what engine?? the lingo you use sounds like Unity and in Unity you would use layers to determine which colliders will interact with each other and which won't.>zero rigidbodyall moving colliders should have a rigidbody attached to their root gameobject. a moving collider without a rigidbody is a red flag.
>>741240031Trump won, it's ok now to be racist
still looking for a good pack of laboratory equipment and glassware 3d models
>>741241712fuckin nice, hope you like it!
>>741242017>Character controlleryou're on Unity? use an inverse kinematic rigidbody controller. since its physics-based you can make use of physics layers, and since its IK you have full control of the physics.the Unity character controller is more of a basic thing to get you moving easily. Think of a game like the Persona series, that type of traversal is what the Character Controller is for.
>>741243535*oops I just mean kinematic rigidbody controller lol. not IK, thats something else.
>>741242017If you are on Unity, buy the game creator 2 plugin on the asset store by Catsoft Works. It has a decent character controller where you can plug and play a humanoid character model. Also, buy the melee 2 plugin (also by Catsoft Works), since you want a DMC type game. I just saved you a year of developing.
She cry if thread die
I just updated the demo for Bingo Bettyhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/4045170/Bingo_Betty/Now you can stack up to 4 blotters in every space to make your chains even spicier
>>741240031No one will ever know. But this place was crucial in finding my way into eventually game development at all.
>>741212907vr when
>>741227876Thanks again for your feedback, I ended up uploading a new version with a tweak that I think will smooth it out. I just made it so if you select a unit and are in your movement phase, clicking an enemy that is already in range without moving will be understood as skipping to the action phase and picking that enemy as a target. I'll be keeping an eye on players to see if this results in a better experience.
>>741245038>a year of developingWhat? Do you seriously think a character controller with melee combat would take someone a year to make?
>>741245820Well yeah, if you want a melee system where you can easily add attacks and spells and animations, for NPC's as well, without hard coding everything. Check out this documentation and tell me this would not take a year to get right: https://docs.gamecreator.io/melee/>>741245616Yep, this is what I expected in terms of behavior, thank you for changing this.
>>741245572Pretty sure kita made that webm and these tracks. Unfortunately I do not own a vr headset and am currently spending all my money learning to fly airplanes so that feature isn't likely to happen any time soon. But there are other cool things coming.
>>741246162It looks like a basic strategy pattern using composition. I highly doubt it'd take anyone a year to make unless they've never opened Unity before.
>>741246256>currently spending all my money learning to fly airplanesfuck my fucking poor eurocuck ass you're living the dreambest I got are fucking sims but not a month go by where I wish I could fly a cessna accross the country
How do I prevent Vtubers from playing my game?
>>741215549>>741217441>>741217978>incrementalWhat a useless fucking term, every game with progression that is just "+2% to poison damage per level" is incremental then, and that's a lot of them.
>>741238296I made a friend play it, and so far his only complaints have been the "lack of lock-on" and the occasional stutter, i'll tell you what he thinks when finishes it.
>>741240031nobody cares if the game is good and you dont act like a retard about it
>>741246896Depends, corpo or not corpo would be different strategies. For corpo It's just don't give them permission is enough (they ask I think) if not anything referencing currently day politics would probably be banned from their audience. For non corpo I don't know.
>>741247012many thanks anon! a bit worried about those stutters lol, but I hope your friend has a great time with it
changed colors a little
>>741240031Niggers can suck my dick
>>741247272the yellow character doesn't stand out enough in front of the background. since it's the player avatar I'd like to be able to read its animations in my peripheral vision, as I focus my eyes on the enemies or the level geometry. if the character doesn't stand out from the background enough I find myself having to look back at the avatar more than I would like to.
>>741242175My physics are entirely code controlled.
>>741242017Well I feel stupid. Layer collision matrix removed that problem with air collisions entirely, but in return gave me something that, while not as bad, is still a problem.
bros...do we have a chance?
>>741250635the hit counter should shake too or something
>>741250724he went from 16 reviews to 18 reviews off the back of 1.5m impressions
I got schizophrenia so I had to give up making games :)
>>741233250>I'm guess this one got grabbed by a couple big name streamers.they did yeah
>>741250889>not doing a picrel to gain new ideas on what you can add to your gamecum on step it up bro
>>741251089No I just lack the attention span now to do programing or whatever, I can only passively consume media now.
>>741251243ah, that's not schizophrenia, that's adhdbut it's not that bad, in some civilized parts of the world it counts as a disability and you can get neetbux with that
>>741247247so, how do you hurt notDaimon?
>>741250724i see 3 problems already thereproblem 1: xitter marketing.... the scroll-and-like apps are dopamine machines, their metrics are meaningless because none of their users actually exit the app, they would rather shit in their seats like a videopoker addictproblem 2: steam has next to no audience... they have users sure, but no audience, everything popular on steam is popular via somewhere else... "streamers" like he mentioned would be a solve for that, the fact it wasn't tells me he probably did something stupid like having them play the game before it was available to buy, any "curious gamers" are just going to go straight from the streamer to purchasing it, they're not going to bother with...problem 3: "wishlists" are only used by steamies and steamies only use them as a way to be notified when the product (not "game" as they probably won't ever play it so for them you shouldnt call it a "game") is at a rock bottom discount, none of them are purchasing at release.
>>741251641nvm he figured it out.man, i forgot about his head lol.
>Increase physics tick rate to 180>Problems are greatly diminishedsurely this will not become a performance problem later
mirrors can now deflect the tracking beams too
>>741251610>you can get neetbux with thatYes I do. Gangstalkers gave me pthd and I can't do anything anymore.
>>741251643so with these three issues in mind, what would be a reasonable solution?because xitter and wishlists are a out of the table, you can only rely on streamers once the game is out?there's nothing else? is it that bad?
>>741251643What is the solution then? Contacting streamers? Any other solutions?
>>741252050>>741252116from my experience youtube is your best friend for moving units, getting people to cover your game was always rough and is only getting rougher due to their ad revenue getting destroyed.if there's another audience that converts well into sales idk it.and obviously you should be careful not to choose a store that will scam you out of 30% of your earnings since none of them provide any real benefit over another
>>741251807if Jonathan Blow himself doesn't care about performance, then why should you?
>>741211017Just spent 6 hours working on the boss model, and feels like I have fuck all to show for. Reworked the connecting geometry between the wheeled frame and the main body, it will now be ball socket legs - got them rigged and ready to duplicate. Going all out on insectile repulsiveness visually.
>>741252421Sell on all of them, choosing not to sell on Steam is just being retarded. Sure you lose 30% which sucks ass but it's better than losing 100% from users who won't buy elsewhere
>>741251896this has come a long long way since you first started posting animation gifs.it's too bad it looks like it's just a (doomed) fighting game.have you considered transitioning it into an action-puzzle game or something?
>>741252563Also, I worked out that I'll need a total of about 200 bones for the entire thing (wheels, suspension, steering + all the insect animations). Figured that some of it will have to be animated in blender, else trying to then blueprint all that in unreal will make me lose my shit
>>741252617i can guarantee you're not losing anything.pic related isn't a little inaccurate because the fedora and reddit badge and soi face implies he's some kinda nintendo-manchild-esque being that would purchase something at full price on release. steam has the exact opposite of those.
>>741249550you're still paying a tax for moving a collider without rigidbody. adding a kinematic rigidbody would solve that problem.unless you're saying you aren't using a collider, but then you wouldn't disagree with me.
>>741252970>nuh uh! also here's a wojakAre you trying to sabotage people? There is no way you genuinely believe what you're saying. You are but a silly boy.
Trying to think of a decent studio name that isn't already taken on all social media
>>741252617>>741252970>>741253098a steamie complains the game isn't on steam, complains when it's released on steam because it's the same price as everywhere else, complains when it's on discount on steam because the discount isn't severe enough, buys it on discount at a sub-$2 price point, attempts to get a full price refund, and if that refund fails leaves a thumbs down review about it not being worth the price (287hr recorded playtime)literally anyone who just wants to buy and play a game will just google the name of the game and get it from whatever website pops up first
>>741253127mines a pretty good one, i give it a 7/10
>>741253378literally the only PC game in the past 20 years to succeed without Steam is Minecraft.
>>741253127studio buttasscheeks
>>741253527im honestly surprised you tried to pull off this kinda adhom when this is all i have to do to backfire it
>>741253569Runescape, Fortnite, Warzone
>>741253714and the sales?
>>741253738Runescape is more than 20 years old. Fortnite and Warzone are console games.
>>741253714I had deleted my post because I changed my mind about being mean. But considering you went to youtube views first for your measure of success kinda tells it all
>>741253569steam is not responsible for any successes aside from funding the largest single owner yacht collection
>>741253738>free to play, predates every storefront and was originally playable in any web browser>free to play, has every collab imaginable, on consoles and phones>free to play, has a big name behind it, on consoles
>>741253857mechha chameleon made about $8m in the past 7 days btw
>>741253757yes>>741253818being "mean" isn't the problem, it's being retarded enough to crab at indies on behalf of a billionaire
>>741253812Very well, that is valid for those, Genshin 2020, League of Legend 2009, Roblox 2006 (surprised me that Roblox is that old actually)
https://zuzoisland.itch.io/pachinko-overdriveHave a new roguelike system in it, it's better than previously when you are given the choices to buy a bunch of different balls.Now you build your own ball instead.However, having a major issue on balancing the game because the upgrades are too good, and just picking upgrades will usually help you win the game with ease.Currently focusing on solving this issue.If you have any ideas, let me know.Or any general feedbacks would be great too!
>>741253996You plan on naming any games that aren't F2P?
>>741253986You're blatantly full of shit. You're trying to sabotage people so claiming others are crabs is braindead. I've had enough of you, live your cope
>>741254046>literally the only PC game in the past 20 years to succeed without Steam is Minecraft.A billion in revenue but being F2P makes you not a success? How so
>>741253903no stores have an inbuilt audience, that's a myth, claiming someone elses success on behalf of a store that did jackshit is what you're doing.... at the very least claim everything else too.
>>741253986>yesthe funniest possible way to tell everyone the views didnt convert lol
>>741254046>>741254128all of Valves successful steam exclusive tentpole games are also F2P so the argument that steam is responsbile for the success of even paid games is stupid af
i've handed in my notice and am looking to be more productive when i'm finally out of full-time.
damn googem posting on /v/ got me nostalgic i haven't seen him since 2017
>>741254378i was hoping he'd killed himself but alas
>>741254017It's hard to comment on since I have zero experience with pachinko so for me I feel like I'm just tapping spacebar and watching what happens. I'm sorry anon, I am not qualified
How long have you guys been working on your game? For me it's 6 months and it feels like I'm too slow
>>741254529That's fine.I think most of the potential players will have no idea about pachinko too.Not to mention that this is inspired by pachinko only, not copying it completely.
>>741226521Do players actually stop and fill your survey? Is it giving you good feedback about the demo?
post dev music:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfuiB52K7X8
>>741254529>I have zero experience with pachinko so for me I feel like I'm just tapping spacebar and watching what happens.that's a complete and accurate depiction of pachinko
>>741211017It's going. Maybe I'll finish it in 5 years?
>>741254617Since February
>>741254378shame he STILL doesnt know whats actually wrong with steam (probably, didnt read any of his posts)
>>741250806That's really fucking bad>>741252975Using a RB completely fucks everything actually, because my movement isn't physics based
>>741254828https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng_VU1520_g
>>741254760Not yet this time, but during my last demo in January, I got some. I found it helpful, there were some mentions of things that were confusing plus I got to hear from most that it was too difficult. So this time around I've tried to really tone it down. Hard to balance it without seeing how others experience it, hopefully it's better this time. I like having the option just in case some feel more comfortable just throwing their thoughts at me anonymously. It's just one avenue for feedback.
>>741255232you really shouldn't be using a character controller for what you're trying to do, assuming this is Unity.
>>741254617as long as you stay cognizant that it is probably not going to be popular because the thing slowing you down is skill-building which diminishes the confidence/appeal to the audience and what you're getting out of the project is the skill-building and to not pin unrealistic expectations on it's external outcome, it's fine.
>>741255328Well, what should I use? I'm listening.
>>741211017I hate coding. Why won't my player just stick to moving platforms!
>>741255893Believe me I wish I knew
>>741256380Incredible. How did you do it?
>>741255893>>741256345https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvEU0eG6ORE&list=PLXG1jSmcT-NXIHOPL8cZGXvDEGZ3gzurt&index=5This series is good.
>>741250769+1 to this. Anon this is important juice.
>>741256398Thanks, Anon, I used the template project from a hack and slash tutorial series and worked from there. Some animations are from an asset pack, others are from Mixamo, and a few are original.https://youtu.be/srpHq7n9iQI?si=OGXEf_v_6qfhkwUy
>>741255893Use Godot, it just works out the box.
>>741255747kinematic rigidbody controller. if you are using any amount of physics anywhere in your game, you should drop the character controller.I replied to your post earlier, the character controller is meant for shit like walking sims or basic RPG shit where there isn't any physics.when you use a rigidbody, you can have child objects with colliders and use that only for NPC against player collision. and if you insist on sticking with the character controller, try making your player walk into an NPC with no active logic. Guess what? collisions are disabled if nothing is pushing the controller.its a quick and easy drop-in solution for demoing and simple games. if you use any amount of physics you're gonna run into problems, like you have been.
>>741256773>UnrealShittttt I can't use this>>741256889My physics are not actually physics. They're me aggressively faking physics with a state machine.
>>741226521pretty cool even though the fire emblem style of SRPGs aren't really my thing, i prefer XCOM and FFTactics where there isn't any real fluff mid-battle, just fighting with the occasional straightforward side-objective or a side activity based on who I actively deployed for that specific purpose (ie i deploy a thief if I want an enemy's equipment or to disarm them). that first battle was really well done in terms of making it easy to get the 7 turn bonus with a small bit of intuition. since im not the target audience i only have a bit of feedback>I used mouse controls and I found it annoying to switch back and forth between keyboard and mouse for different things, might be worth adding click-to-move to explore/talk segments and keyboard controls to menus when playing on mouse mode>I repeatedly forgot to spare because the visual feedback is non-existent, it might be worth adding an indicator next to the enemy sprite unless I missed it, and also add a Spare button to the combat preview since you can jump past the action menu straight into combat. This could also be useful in the context of enemies that can't be spared, ie the indicator won't display on them even if conditions are met>Speaking of the action menu, there was a point during that first battle where I put the spear furry in the fort to bait the incoming Cavalry enemy onto the bridge. I briefly forgot that I could just click an adjacent enemy, and for a moment I thought I wasn't able to attack the cavalry with the archer since the action menu was covering up the cavalry completely>please add a girl with big boobs
>>741257056Although maybe I can take a look at it. After all, the fundamental principles are what's important. Right now what I struggle the most with is enemy/player collision/placement.Like, look at your MP4. Notice how the enemy generally stays close to the player and doesn't get randomly pushed out of the way. While I wouldn't say I want that exactly, because I'm aiming for more NGB than anything else.Right now my problem is that my player tends to either "Drift" through the enemy, leading to clunky and slippery combat, or get stuck on them mid-air or vice versa, and there is no in-between. It's a problem of collision/placement, as I said.https://youtu.be/0NjSwL3k7s8?t=10Just a basic enemy reaction like this is kinda what I'm looking for. Not even animations.
https://files.catbox.moe/5l8m8k.mp4Replaced a FUCKLOAD of my ugly programmer art, added some sound effects, and fixed a few bugs. I still need to replace the tutorial (you can see it for just a split second at 2:00 in the video), and I think I'd like to add some more detail to the castle interior backgrounds (tiles on the floor, maybe some small tables here and there, etc.). I'd also like to add some background art to the battle scene. Something REALLY simple, like in the Gen 3 Pokemon games.It still feels like the whole cutscene (especially the intro) is too "quiet". But adding music doesn't feel right. Maybe I'll add some "clothes shuffling" sound effects when some of the characters change their positions.
>>741257056>My physics are not actually physics. They're me aggressively faking physics with a state machine.even so, you should drop the CC. like I said, it's not designed for anything like what you're trying to do.
>>741258530Then what is? I can't use a RB for a game that's so heavily arcadey.
>>741257056You know the games you're trying to copy have physics right?? DMC is notorious for all the cool shit you do with like guard flying and inertia (neutered in 5 but still). NG is a bit more rigid but there's still obviously basic collision between entities. The rigidbody physics don't need to dictate everything but it should still be present for generic interactions. I feel like you took my state machine suggestion from a long while back way too literally. You can have both. Hell I'm making a 2d action game with decently complex state machines and I still have rigidbodies for some physics interactions.
>>741259169yes you can lol. kinematic rigidbodies are basically what you're describing with fake physics. kinematic means all of the physic calculations can be handled through scripting. you'll have complete control over everything.also, the unity controller is just a locked down and shittier kinematic controller anyway.
>>741257734>since im not the target audience i only have a bit of feedbackI'm hoping anyone who likes turn based games can be part of the target audience and your feedback is great! Move/interacting with the mouse in exploration segments is good, I'll definitely get to that eventually. And the reminders for sparing is a great idea. About the action menu, you can move it around if it gets in the way. I had done a little work to try and make it less obtrusive but I could see it maybe needing a few more tweaks.>please add a girl with big boobs:)Thank you very much for trying it and sharing your thoughts, it was fantastic to hear them.
>>741259368Well, I'm doing NG-rigid than DMC-freeflow. In fact, I'm primarily studying fighting games to get an idea of how this actually works. Hell, you can't even move midair. That's how strict we're going.Right now, my game actually has gravity and proper knockback and inertia, but my problem mainly comes in the form of collision. See, my problem mainly comes in the form of the enemy kinda getting repulsed in a funky way. I actually like soft collision, and it's clearly the way to go as it prevents characters from getting caught on each other entirely, but it feels like Unity's Character Controllers are very strict about how much you're allowed to "Pass through" an enemy, which right now is "Too much.">>741259635Anon one of the first things I did with the project was remove RBs entirely because they made movement so utterly buggy that it borders on impossible.
I'm making a spell casting system at the moment.>>741215549Half of the steam fest games are them, and the genre is mostly about dumbing down unless you go for a niche.
>>741259813https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls5BFzuxGw4Also, I just figured out how to solve my issue. Horray!!!
>>741259813NG still has slow free movement in any direction if you do a neutral jump, not to mention wind path use. And that anon is right, you literally control everything about the physics when it's set to kinematic. If it's "buggy" that's entirely a you problem.
>>741259693that water is way too detailed compared to the stone.
>>741259813sounds like a skill issue. good luck on your game.
>>741260015Anon it was buggy from the literal moment I used it back when this shit was nothing but a capsule moving around on a camera
>>741260031I think you might be right. Thank you
>>741260015I actually intend to add a Wind Path/Enemy Step type thing eventually.My player's movement is a very strict state machine with little things to make it feel more natural.
>>741260158You fucked up I don't see why you're ignorantly blaming it on the rb. Like we both fucking said like three times already you CONTROL EVERYTHING ABOUT A KINEMATIC RIGIDBODY. My player's movement is COMPLETELY dictated by code, the jump arc, everything. When I added a kinematic RB afterwards, literally nothing changed except for the fact that entities can now push each other around. This is not some complete replacement ragdoll physics shit that you're making it sound like.
>>741260131It's not a skill issue if it was buggy from the start. Rigidbodies are useless and don't work
>>741260387I mean, I did what you asked and made it>No gravity>Kinematic>Blah blah blahAbsolutely nothing changed, so I wonder why the fuck I need this in the first place
trying to do fake 3d interior projection but i have no clue how devs make it so that furniture moves around. is it a parallax of billboard textures inside the interior?
>>741260414What an insanely terrible ngmi attitude to have and the reason why you're in this situation to begin with. Stay humble, you're some random faggot making his first game in his basement trying and failing to copy entire game systems based off assorted clips of another game, maybe you should assume "hmm maybe I'm not doing this right" instead of "nah this insanely common industry standard physics component is broken and buggy".
>>741260686I'm not going to walk you through everything, the tools are in front of you. You CONTROL EVERYTHING with kinematic physics and their interactions, wow have I said that yet? Figure it out with some googling and hopefully in good time so you don't have to subject another 20 gamedev threads to your vague bitching and whining.
>>741260989Maybe it's because I don't use rbs in my programming whatsoever, so I see no difference regardless of it being kinematic.The entirety of the player's movement is controlled via a mathematical FSM. This grants me control over every bit of it's physics, from it's velocity midair, the peak of it's jump and attack arcs, the duration and force of wallrunning, and it's acceleration and deceleration among other thingsBasically I already have what you're suggesting. So no thanks. RBs are not for a game like this
>>741261348Plus, real (Good) action games don't use "Physics" like some kind of simulation.They aggressively fake it with state machines and animations.Hell, I might actually ditch using CC's Layer Index entirely and hardcode a separate separation bubble.
managed to get my foliage ground covers running performantlyfor a 4kmx4km map, i am getting 118-120 fps in viewport with gpu generated procedural grass and also impostor baked trees and a dynamic skylight, no GI, lumen or nanite as all that is garbage
Remade an old raycaster, floor casting seems impossible because of the lag spike, perhaps I just learn to use Love's mesh system next
>>741261601>They aggressively fake itmost likely through kinematic rigidbodies.>might ditch using CC's Layer Index entirely and hardcodeso a kinematic rigidbody with more steps?
>>741261706cute add shading next
>>741261870Anon, did kinematic rigidbodies exist back when good action games were made?I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about when you say "Kinematic."All that is is a checkmark that makes things not go entirely whacky
>>741252678There is a PVE mode and an open world story kinda thing with puzzles around. Have to still get the basic combat done first though.
is godot good for 3d now
Uhhhhhhhhh.........What now
i've discovered that I really like writing UI code
>>741253127Rapeman Interactive LLC
>>741250635Oh hey, i saw your game in a Shiori stream the other day.
>>741265868That's probably cause UI code can be pretty easy. I also enjoy it but I think I have the biggest grasp on it. Creating UI elements on the other hand I fucking hate even though I've made like 20.
>>741212907looks really nice anon
Good luck anons im not posting anymore you guys make these dumbass threads way too often
What do you guys think of arachnophobia modes?
>>741266647Pretentious, and never do anything to sell the game
>>741240031If you don't act like fagoon you literally have nothing to worry about. You shouldn't samefag though, not good for your psyche.
>>741266647To me that's gay, not even that big of a deal as epilepsy. Would probably be easier to not include spiders at all if you're conscious about that stuff
>>741230142That's some launcher porn right there.
>>741233186why would I solo dev at that point?Bring on one or two people more skilled than me in areas I lack talent in to speed the process up
>>741240031just call the pussy cunts antiwhite and tell 'em to blow it out their assholestop giving these cretins power.
>>741266550It's one guy spamming it.
>>741259693>>741260031>>741260212I agree, you could simply scale it x2 or x3 and it should look better.
>>741266550yeah i dont know why it keeps getting posted, its nice to have once a week so people have actual tangible progress to post, but every few days is a bit much. its not like these threads go fast
>>741253127well you giving no idea of what your game is. or your mind set does little to give advice.I already have my studio name set, plus icon. and an extentive doctument of the game, its functions, etc, plus rough betas for maps, item icns and such.Not that it matters I'm too retarded to make any real progress coding, music, or animation wise.maybe if i win the lottery or somethin. unlikely though
>>741264820they probably weren't called that but yes. I don't get why you're unable to google shit.
>>741253569warframegenshinplenty of indies made profit without steam. maybe didnt sell a gazillion copies, but they turned profits.steam is helpful but it isn't the end all be all.
>>741267446I'll make the logo
>>741211017I've run out of ideas. I like gameplay nuance but I can't figure out how to present any of my work. I'm bored of fps, I'm bored of arpg, I'm bored of exploration, I hate crafting games. I started thinking more about presentation and narrative and realised the story I had was centred around millennial slop, so I thought of one thing I would like to tackle but it's really only appropriate in film, it wouldn't allow space for game time to achieve. I fucking hate doing 3D things that aren't code related, so now I'm left wondering wtf to do and if I should even bother anymore
>>741254367best of luck you mad lad. Godspeed>>741254130>>741253986kill yourself timmy chink slurper
>>741232115pretty good
>>741256380way too much shaking.otherwise cool
>>741267538update us once it's ready anon.
Howdy folksStill working on questing but I added a tree mini boss. Very rough around the edges but powering through. Both the side quest initiate and the mini boss animations are crammed together for the video but they wont act like this in game.
>>741211017Pretty slow with work in the way. Had made a new enemy and a variant for it. Figuring out the complexity of the combat.
>>741267489I DID google it. All I see is "They register collisions, not forces."A rigidbody is more useful for physics simulations than authored movement, why can't you understand this?
You ever wonder if you're doing the right thing?
>>741270113I got nothing else to do, except mindless consuming
I use AI in my game. My game is broken down into:- AI models with textures- AI reference images updated in photoshop- AI sound effects and music- AI was used to help with code and only automated shit like data table creation but I manually edited and updated them.Animations are assets or me in blender pretending I know what im doing, the world is all assets from the fab. All in all I made a pretty cool world.
>>741269181you're retarded lol
>>741238296feedbackIt'd feel much better to have rotation enabled during blitz or sky rend(between swings)blitz misses sometimes if you don't aim well, free rotation or anim cancel can save people from falling into pits or water.picking up two items queues up the sound for the latter one which plays far too late(level 2 alcove)belt configuration should be saved between deaths even if you don't get to the next save pointhttps://files.catbox.moe/gvnwn0.pnghit a bug with shield up and moonwalk, cancelling physics and inputs(level 2 stuck above the pool, had to reload)as far as I can tell I defended an attack and/or button mashed https://files.catbox.moe/k373tz.pnggood spot for a secret, dropping down to a cave/ledgehttps://files.catbox.moe/c3tmat.pngIt feels bad having to ledge climb this, the jump almost clears it. it'd be nicer as stairs or jumpable ledges.https://files.catbox.moe/5q4zt7.pngI got filtered, low on items, but the main problem was probably not fully getting the combat. managing positioning was hard without lock on, with goblin AI being aggressive and having no poise. It felt like if you cant keep everyone but 1 of them down its down to hit and run tactics. limited stamina doesn't help.With the black goblin it's even worse, defending his attacks takes so much stamina. it felt like only the jump attack was punishable, but cheesing enemies as the main strategy to beating them is lame. the enemy design of harpies is probably ok, the issue is the offscreen grab. It could all be a skill issue, I did not read the tutorials properly. I wonder what other people think.
>>741270650>All in all I made a pretty cool world.you made nothing tho, none of it came from your brainI don't even care about AI generated shit, each to their own but if you pretend like you and a real game developer have anything in common you're retarded
>>741270859level 2 pool bottom is dark as helllevel 2 dungeon is dark as hell in some spots, I thought the stairs at the start were a cliff dropdown to a dark arena. your wording about the 3rd normal attack could be 'knockdown' instead of push or whatever you usedI liked the secrets and the level design/moodI don't think the jump sound is fitting
>>741270859>I got filtered, low on items, but the main problem was probably not fully getting the combat. managing positioning was hard without lock on, with goblin AI being aggressive and having no poise. It felt like if you cant keep everyone but 1 of them down its down to hit and run tactics. limited stamina doesn't help.I'm still mid playing it myself, but only armored goblins have hyperarmor. Round slash takes care of goblins that try to flank you, if they get behind your back it's best just move and re-engage.
>>741270785Anon. From what I’ve read and seen, Kinematic Rigidbodies are script driven movement/physics.Aka what I already do. I’m not going to uproot my entire code base and replace it all with rigidbodies for nothing more than a minor decrease in control and the approval of a guy on 4chan.
>>741271016>thoYikes
>>741271159After the 2nd level there's an armored goblin on nearly every encounter which means you'll get hit if you roundslash. Stamina recovery is low even if you run around and stop attacking, so you can't use skills as much as you want when you have encounters back to back. I'll watch his demo playthrough to see how pros do it.
Glad gobbodev has a thread AND has fags playtesting his game responding in the dev thread. No hate man, but stop spamming your shit here.
>>741271617Post it
>>741271771No, you fags make these threads so often. No more. Enjoy the shit posting you earned it.
>>741271546>>741270859looking at his gameplay I see that he does footsies with the black goblin, utilizes two lights into shield bash which I never tried, gets in the middle of a crowd to round slash. picks up a goblin and walks back to throw, instead of attempting to throw on the spot and getting hit by the approaching dude. his positioning game is much better than mine.
>>741271827I actually respect him for working this hard on it
>>741270859thanks for playing anon! damn that last image is terrifying. I think I just have to make it easier, since it's just the prologue I think I'm throwing way too much stuff at the player. Plus I believe not many have realized that you can easily destroy the goblin's armor with a single strong attack. Tutorial pop-up tells you to "experiment" to find a way to deal with armors>>741271958glad to read this. It may mean that the foundation is good, but I need to let the players adapt to it more slowly and easily.>>741271546>Stamina recovery is low even if you run around and stop attackingstamina recovers faster when you hit an enemy. I may need better tutorials lol. Thanks for checking out the game!
>>741271958If you have to watch the creator of the game play to know HOW to play the game.....who is to blame here?
>>741270113I have nothing else I'm good at
>>741272485No I don’t mean in general.I mean “Is this the right way to go about this?”
>>741272559ask here or in other places if there's a better way to do it. that of course assuming you already looked up tutorials for the thing.
>>741271016How did it not come from his brain?Take the textures example. He decided what he wants the textures to look like, he just got AI to do the work. No different to you using a computer to do the work, he's just one step above that now.
>>741272060I don't see the point in advertising games to 4chan. 4chan pirates everything on pc. Reddit buys games.
>>741272826anon are you complaining about game devs posting their games in the game dev threads?
>>741246998What do you get out of pretending to be retarded and not understanding what people are talking about? You’re the same as the people who pretend they don’t know what woke or roguelike mean and pilpul all night about it.
>>741272901Just observing. Do what you want.
>>741272724Honestly I wish there was.
>>741272901Yes, progress posting and bug hunting is one thing but OMG GOBBO ON FIRE XD YEEEEEE is blogposting faggotry. Those bringing up bugs is fine.
>>741266647I'll never play your game.Including a model to swap models because some pussies are "scared" of spiders shows me your priorities are retarded. Even when it's simple to do, including it showcases that you're a retard and I'm not willing to bet my time and money that your retardation didn't slip into other aspects of the game.Either you're a retard doing retard things or you're a big chungus lolsorandom millennial who thinks it's cute, which is also retarded.
Please anons, I have serious choice paralysis and have no idea how to start my game. I want to make some sort of 3D action RPG with PS1/PS2 graphics and pre rendered backgrounds/fixed camera angles, and I also want to create cut scenes for it. How would I even begin making this project? I have the game mechanucs, story and even level layouts drawn and listed on paper but I have zero clue how to code anything and have just done elementary dives into C, C++ and Odin, and a little bit of Opengl and Vulcan which quickly became intimidating and which I backed out of. I have ideas for a game, but no friends who are game Devs/ into game Devs to bounce ideas off. I just can't break this choice paralysis and routinely give up trying
hmmm>dev A in thread makes a game that people like and are positive about>sudden seething and vitriol from dev B who feels entitled to the same praise and success that dev A's game is getting Feel like I've seen this episode before
>>741273078Every time I see his smug ass face I want to murder him.Raian you absolute fucking Princess.
>>741273078Use unity and vibe code itThe hardest bit will be the assets
>>741273078throw your idea into the bin for the moment and do some basic unity/godot tutorials first
>>741273223I wanted to download models from PS2/psp games and then attempt to emulate their triangle mesh mid 2000s poly designs in my own models in Blender, before giving them wiremeshes and making custom animations with them. Then I'd like to texture them and include baked in lighting for certain scenes. But again I just have no idea how to do that. I have the idea, I don't know the practical path towards doing any of that
>>741273078>I have serious choice paralysisSo how do you survive everyday?It must be a horror for you to choose what to eat for meals everyday since there's thousands of choices out there.
I want to make a classic survival horror, like re1 or sh2, but set in the 1950s-1960s Soviet Union. You're trapped in a closed Soviet City, in a non-descript SSR, and SHTF because Soviet scientists have been performing psychic experiments under the city and contact a Pagan entity. You're just a regular Soviet Man living in a commieblock, you have 2 years military experience like most men, and work in a factory as a technician. You need to find a way out of the city, which has been put on lockdown and surrounded by the Soviet authorities and anyone fleeing gets blasted on sight. For whatever reason, you and a few others are immune to the Pagan entities mind fuckery, but most of the city has either been turned feral from psychic madness or into loyal slaves for the entity. 1 good ending, 1 bad ending. You become the host for the entity and the apocalypse occurs. Bad ending. You destroy the entity and survive.
>>741273549Okay, so show me you can make a basic controller
>>741273124>Feel like I've seen this episode beforeyeah, YoursToConquer was a really annoying attention starved fag before even Fygoon existed. El goblino is just a rerun
>>741273078>Opengl and VulkanDon't touch this shit if you want to make a game. Don't touch this shit if you need advice on where to start with it.Start by picking an engine, start by making games that aren't the one you like in that engine. You could for example pick Unity, Unreal and Godot and then try to make the same game in all of them to compare the experience, how confident you feel in them and so on.It'll take time, learning to code is a skill, learning to make game systems is another skill. If you're willing to develop these skills by the start of July you could have a couple VERY basic "games" coded and be better prepared for asking questions and understanding answers than you are now.
>>741272082> I may need better tutorials lol. Thanks for checking out the game!The tutorial had all the info needed, if players don't read that's on them. I'll give more in-depth feedback after I finish it but personally most difficulties I have with combat is just getting used to the rhythm and spacing of it. I keep going for a backhop that doesn't exist, so I suspect there are many others too who have gotten used to rules of Soulslikes and other 3rd person action games. It's refreshing, goblins actively flanking was a nice surprise.
>>741273052>activate arachnophobia mode>all enemies are now spiders
>>741252050>>741252116make a good fun game people want to recommend to their friends, and then plant the seeds in a couple places (youtubers are a good example)
>>741273786>enable arachnophobia mode>spiders walk around on your screen, randomly, show up in random things in the game
>>741273579I'm just using the basic unity FPS controller currently while learning how to implement different systems and understand how they work. I've taken flooded lands from the unity store and building things inside that just to see how it works. I've made a main menu, quest menu, basic inventory, learned how to make an interactable notes that are accessible in a UI/invetory, made a cutscene with a moving car with a story exposition, made a flashlight to navigate in the dark, and made a 3 step quest with an interactable NPC. This weekend I'm going to try make an enemy that will spawn and attack you if you do a certain thing during a quest.I don't intend to use most of my own systems, like inventory, because better versions are on the store and cheap. I just want to understand how they work from the bottom up. What worries me is the asset building. I have lots of CAD experience as a mech eng, but blender is completely different. That's why I'm trying to pick a setting that is 1) simple (commieblocks) and 2) real world assets exist and are not copyrighted.
>>741253378>>741252970it's silly thought process because steam IS going to make you 50% more sales, the lack of friction and the social element is a feature that young people appreciate and huge factor in Steam's successyour greed blinds you>>741254130yes it does, seeing that X of your friends already owns the game is a big psychological incentive to also buy itthe "inbuilt audience" for 99% of gamers is their friends, and you gotta capitalize on that
>>741238296Fuck yeah, been waiting. I'll test it after work
>>741238296Looks good will try it out but I hate games names with "project" in them.
>>741231373Can you sex the shop lady yet?
>>741240031I'll just self host and double down on my racist remarks.
>>741273425Looks decent. Some indie made a cartoon look based on embroidered figures.
>>741274961nice! ty anon>>741275112hey come on, Crystal Project is a cool game. Mine's just provisional, will change it later once I've finish writting the story and decide on a final name. Hope you like the demo!
>>741211017Has anyone experience with the range engine (blender)?
>>741211017How did vidya marketing change compared to 2016? Is it still tiktok and discord heavy? Can I use dev snippets and content from design docs or is this not worth the effort? Last time I worked in marketing 2016 and come to think of it, last time I consumed cattke social media was around 2020ish.
>>741274321this you?
>>741275114you're not emotionally ready for the answer just yet
>>741275691Were you inspired by Goblin Slayer?
>>741276193well googem, you've been at this for 20 years, are you a full time indie dev yet? if not, don't bother giving advice to other people that clearly doesn't work for youaverage gamer doesn't even have a PC, and those who do are afraid of emulating/pirating because of "viruses"steam is the retard friendly option, and picrel is how you sound when saying to use alternative "free" stores
my AI-powered find the differences game will be a Microsoft Store exclusive
>>741276395nope, my main inspirations are Zelda and Dragon's Dogma. Dragon's Crown and the old Capcom D&D beat'em'ups are also there but mostly when it comes to the setting
>>741276423>are you a full time indie dev yet?i've never worked a wagie job in my entire life and the majority of my money comes from games so yeah?everything you're saying is outdated propaganda nonsense that you're just using as cope btw..... everyone who buys a game on pc just types shit into google and uses whatever store comes up firsteveryone on an android uses the google play store, everyone on an iphone uses the apple app store^ the last 2 actual monopolies charge less than steam, steam is not financially necessary or even really viable on a long timescale because it demands devaluing your product.
How do people reuse assets from the store or other places and make them unique?
>>741276745They don't. You can find asset pack assets in Fallout and CoD and shit. As long as the important assets are unique then nobody notices the others.
>>741276704You know when someone asks a direct question and you can't give a direct answer that everyone can tell you're hiding something, right? When someone says "you a full time indie dev?" and you reply "the majority of my money comes from games", then people recognise that the money you're earning isn't wage-tier.
>>741276704Weird flex to do yourself, but ok
>>741276879lol cope and seethe steam shill
>>741276821How do you decide what is an important asset and what isn't. Minus the most obvious things like your character
>>741277125Lol can tell my post hit a nerve cuz this is the first time you haven't tried to muster a real counter-argument kek
>>741277335Thing the player will be looking at intentionally and directly for enough time to notice details. Nobodys gonna give a shit about grass or trees or cars or fire hydrants or houses. But Ganon's castle? The Erdtree? Those should be unique
>>741277335if it only exists to be visual noise and texture then its not important enoughmany old games especially around the PS2 era used packs of photos to create textures rather than drawing or creating them on their own, sound demo discs, etc
>>741277335Your job is to pull player attention to things, in level design it's done by framing and highlighting. The rest is painting the general impression, like the other anon said no-one is going to inspect every tree in a forest but they will be interested about a cabin in a clearing.
>>741277338I'm always baffled how it's always "the auteurs" who are the ones most buttmad about Steam taking a cut.
>>741240031Realistically unless you post your updates with an extremist political ideology every single time no one really cares, because it's anonymous. We're on /v/, not /pol/
>>741277338the counterargument to you defending steam by subtly telling me to show you my bank account is that you're a fucking shill promoting delusion that steam makes money when it's the most expensive store an indie dev could possibly choosenow show me your bank account, getting paid by Valve 2 cents per post must've made you rich right?
>>741277542Also remember to add slurs in every comment in your code as a treat for dataminers
>>741211017it died. again. I just got a decent routine going too where I'd spend at least a few hours doing scheduled and targeted development every dayfucking Destiny 2 getting it's final update made me hop back on that game and it's been like a crack addict relapsing hard. I used to play this game almost 24/7, managed to quit and now I'm back on it and now I haven't developed my game at all because I'm playing Destiny 2 all the time againalso because I'm playing Destiny 2 again and my inner lore giga-autist is free again even if I go back to gamedev I'm 100% just going to spend several days trying to write esoteric and complex lore of my own again instead of making the actual game
>>741277616I never asked about how much money you made. I simply mocked you for trying to dodge the question and answer with half-truths. I clearly hit every nerve in your body though cuz umad lol
>>741277616you could've released a single game on steam and experienced the difference yourself, but you'd rather stay delusional, sad!
>>741240031It will give you a boost with the incel chud audience
How do you stop being depressed and do something instead(even gaming)
>>741277524Isn't that just you imagination? Many devs with shipped games express anger at Steam's rates. They just tend to stay quiet since they don't want additional issues. Steam's income vs the service it provides is so disproportionate Steam is sometimes estimated to be the company in the world with the highest income per employee. The only company even in the ballpark of Steam's absurd profitability (making money for doing nothing) is onlyfans.It's a middleman gating games on a platform because everyone is there. It's a problem with our economic model too and it's how Elon musk became rich. He simply hopped on board a service that didn't exist before (PayPal) and then was sold for over a billion. It's not about doing something useful, it's about don't something useful first and capturing the market to have infinite money forever.
>>741277819>>741277798i released 2 games on steamthe one that did well on steam did well because it had millions of views on youtube and continued to do well after i took it off steam.the one that sold nothing on steam sold slightly more than nothing off steam.you're not a cool badass troll making me mad you're a retarded shill making 2 cents per propaganda post.
>>741278309Don't know but being a cowardly little bitch is probably as much as a blocker as being depressed.
>>741278309get sunlight
What about putting your games on all platforms and even offering it for free on your own website?
>>741278697it's 32 degrees outside.
>>741278637And yet you're mad as fuck about getting caught out trying to semantics your way through admitting you don't earn a wage from games lol
>>741278731get some tan too
>>741240031No, 4chan is pretty popular with dem keeds nowdays. There's constant screencap posts on twitter daily. I'm more worried about the enemies I made by trolling discord servers 10 years ago. Those trannies have long memories and keep massive grudges.
>>741278637>>741278736Both of you get a room and suck each others dicks in there plz
>>741277125>bawwww i want my games on steam but gabe keeps rejecting me>BREAKING NEWS: STEAM IS BULLYING INDIE DEVS WITH UNFAIR AND UNCLEAR RULES>alright let's leave it to the public to decide which games make it onto the store>bawwww this isn't good enough my games don't get enough votes while other devs are buying votes or using bots>BREAKING NEWS: STEAM'S GREENLIGHT IS RIPE FOR ABUSE AND MY FRIENDS STILL CAN'T GET ONTO STEAM>fine whatever pay us a hundred bucks and we'll let you on steam>bawwww the store is full of slop and nobody can find my games>BREAKING NEWS: STEAM ISN'T DOING ENOUGH TO MARKET INDIE DEVS' GAMES FOR THEM>fucking fine here's some algorithmic and wishlist changes and an entire fest based on game demos and themed sales >bawwww why am i supposed to give steam 30% when valve just hosts a store page and does nothing elseWhy are anti-Steamies such fuckwads?
>>741278474it's actually worse than your average walledgarden middleman parasite techmonopoly since theres no actual technical walls to be seen anywhere..... it's walls are entirely psychological: the psychology on users of losing their library, achievement, friends lists, hats, the 5 cents remaining on their steam wallet, etc, etc and for developers they harp on their platforms user count (even if it's fuckton smaller than google play) or their platforms average revenue (even if it's a fuckton smaller than the app store) and pour tons of money into paying shills to propagandize to devs how they NEED steam to access THEIR users even though there users are on a fucking PC not locked into a console or phone. it's a monopoly built of pure psyops all the way through.
>>741267816Thanks for the feedback, I plan on fixing that.
These threads make me depressedI should stop clicking on them
>>741279063>implying valve's decision making on the processes and policies of steam is reactive in any way whatsoever to what anyone tells them they wantyou don't get a yacht company and a brain chip company listening to poors opinions
>>741279296They clearly were influenced by all the complaints developers had about being locked out, as there was a time that Steam would curate games by hand only letting some indies on like Introversion. They stopped listening at some point and experimented with ways to help indies without shifting into becoming a marketing agency, which is probably the best way to handle the situation. Valve would obviously not mind if indie devs made a fuckton of money cause that only benefits Valve as well.
>>741279275don't be sad! have a goblin
>>741279397>Valve would obviously not mind if indie devs made a fuckton of money cause that only benefits Valve as well.read the image
>>741279408Why is he red? Shouldn't goblins be green?Cute goblin tho.
>>741279460No I don't feel like reading your schizo shit.
>>741279508you're lucky you paid off the staff
>>741279296>picrelBabie's first business lesson. Obviously valve is leveraging money. Heck, small supermarket chains do that. Bigger companies already have obscure paypack mechanisms where you have to compute your own discount.
>>741279532>more schizo shitAlright, good talk. Well, I had one, you can keep babbling to the wall.
>>741279532moot doesn't even own 4chan anymore are you retarded
>>741279541>Obviously valve is leveraging money.you're going offscript, you're not supposed to admit to your the company paying you to shill doing illegal things like this.
>>741279612>just because they paid off the last guy doesn't mean they paid off the next guy tooyeah but why would they not continue paying for their shill protection if they're gonna keep paying for all the shills? it's just good business.
1% chance of being discovered is better than 0%
>>741279719So you have no proof of them doing it now and barely any proof of them doing a decade and a half ago?
>>741279751>>>/mu/130609066good luck>>741279765they're gonna replace you.
>>741279881Do you genuinely think I'm getting paid by steam to shill on 4chan?
>>741278474epic tried to make a new storefront, but they're not even trying to compete. there's no monopoly if nobody is even trying to make a steam clone. it's not just about making a store, it's also a ton of other features
>>741279881you're just coming off more as a terminally online sour grapes retard, did centrelink not pay you this week
>>741279296>blurry screenshot taken with a phoneoh my god, this is real...
Going great! I finally figured out the exact themes and mechanics I want my horror game to portray.
>>741279408Hitting one of these little shits with a shield bash and making it fly into another little shit made me kek.
>>741280186Do tell
>>741279981>begging the question2 cents>>741280021>eppicing the timstion2 cents>>741280037>banking the accountant2 centsthe whole village is partying tonight
>>741276821How do people make different imported assets consistent?
>>741280471I won't go into revealing the secrets, but the game is about working in a factory where things get worse and worse each day as the mystery starts to unfold.
>>741280474damn catching you out on your carefully worded way of admitting you don't earn a wage really mindbroke you didn't it? lol
How do you find play testers if you're an autist with no friends?
>>741280987Reddit
>>741280302I feel sorry for them when one flies over the edge thanks to the noises they make. I guess I have to die enough times to them to learn to hate.
>>741280987participate in demo day
>>741281060TOTAL GOBLIN DEATH.
>>741280714>damn catching you out on your carefully worded way of admitting you don't earn a wage really mindbroke you didn't it? lol
>>741282112>dev is "racist" (hates the one group it's okay to be racist against)larp
Is it true that I shouldn't create a steam page until I have something to show?Otherwise I wasted the opportunity for the algorithm to push a newly launched page to potential buyers?
>>741282365it's not racist to know what you look like because all you outsourced shills are from south asia
>>741282948Sounds reasonable. I would build interest on social media during development and once have enough, launch the steam page when you can take advantage of the algo push and treat it as a hype moment with the audience you have gathered. There should be something valuable on the Steam page, at least a demo or early access.
>>741283326>There should be something valuable on the Steam page, at least a demo or early accessNah, you should split them into 3 - release, demo, access.So you can push it 3 times for the algorithm to do something about it.
>>741279625Weird flex form some doxed indie that doesn't even post progress
>>741283509You mean release just for the steam page? That seems risky l, unless you can sell people finding it then a believable time estimate for goodies. There is a graveyard of games in my wishlist that promised updates like a decade ago and still nothing.Though at that point steam page is the least of their problems.
>>741283616stop replying to him, he's a delusional NEET who thinks he's an anarchist that can fight the system
>>741211017Let's say I publish secret of evermore remake, what would happen? Obvs se would activate layers, what good is it if the limited is of no significant value?
>>741283684What for? Fight the system to what end? Even if you have the means to overthrow it, what will come after that? Accelerism all the way.
>>741283729>announce fanmade remake>get some publicity and SE drops the hammer>rebrand as your own thing>???>profit
>>741267518>f2pretard
>>741283729For games heavy on copyright infringement (aka fangames) your best strategy is to develop it in secret and then release it to the public for free when it is done.You may get a takedown notice but by then it is already spread around and reuploaded by other people so they can't do shit really
>>741283729I know SE has been overzealous with threatening legal action on fan projects in the past but I dunno if they're still like that. If you dump it anonymously on a few sites like Itch.io (as in don't use your standard username and e-mail address), they can't do anything about people sharing it around if they do decide to DCMA the project.
>>741283814>little secret of neveror Pretty much my idea.
>>741283814Either go full risk or>>741283860 farm fans>>741283887I don't profit from that
>>741283673Yes, that's what I see people are doing.Release just steam page, release a "trailer" for "steam page release".Then soon after, release a demo, and a "trailer for demo release".Then release date announcement trailer, etc.And most of the trailer's contents are pretty much 90% reused same footages.They just want to repeatedly get exposures online via meaningless "trailers".
>>741282112this post said more about how mad i've made you than anything else possibly could have lol
>>741283956If you want to profit off a fan project you go the Kaze or CryZENx route where you put up progress videos of your work and have a Patreon where people can support your *videos*, instead of your fangames or hacks. Yes, the distinction seems minor but it's enough to placate Nintendo's legal team. Trying to maintain the momentum of a fangame to an original game is risky and usually doesn't pay off. Trust me, I've been in the Mario and Sonic fangame community for a long time and most fangame developers didn't pull it off minus a few exceptions like Freedom Planet, Spark and A Hat In Time (though MekuCube was already banned from most fan communities he's been part of cause he behaves like an absolute sociopath).
>>741283814>profit99% of fans of an snes game are emulator gamers who probably have never paid for a game in their life so this would be an unrealistic expectation.also might lose money getting very justifiably sued for copyright infringement so....
How have you been utilizing AI to speed things up?
>using unitylearns to learn c#>feels good so farwhat do you guys think
>>741240031Oh no, my whopping 2 twitter followers will know I say the nigger word on 4chan which they already know anyway, what am I to do?
>>741284754Start adding faggot there too to double your following
how many followers if i slurmaxx?
>>741211017i've been continuing on working on my VN :)worked on a sprite
>>741284754I only save the slurs for posts where I don't post my progress at the same time. Good luck proving anything now, faggots from Reddit and Twitter!
>Godot decomp can lead effortless theftAtleast I can code in c++ with GDExtention which makes decompliling less trivial for lazy thieves >Godot stencils missing increment/decrement functions that I need for combining stencil buffersGod why the fuck does godot insist on this bullshit, why couldn't they just allow for regular glsl or hlsl shaders?I'd rather not enginedev and get bogged down with rolling my own collision resolver, nav meshes, ik with pol targets, etc.
>>741285004Real answer? It will turn out the same way as it would if you went 100% politically correct woke. A certain crowd who thinks you're based will follow you, and none of them will actually buy your game.
>>741284664I think guides/books suck for beginners and you should acquire hands-on experience ASAP.
>>741279881>>741280474>>741282112>>741283059>>741284479where's your succesful game?
>>741288954google social interaction trainer
>>741289026uhh
>>741287237Yesn't. Some might be useful at times. Now that chat can code, why bother with books?
>>741289869I don't hate books but you need context for them. A beginner doesn't need to learn why a private variable is good because there's nothing for that knowledge to stick to yet. No experience to contextualize the value of it.
>>741287237>hands-on experienceisn't that what I'm doing?I'm coding in practical examples
>>741211017been spending probably too much time working on a custom spatial system for AI navigation/visibility/pathfindingi want my robot girls to intelligently play hide and seek tag with each other in a dynamic environment where i can add new rooms or blow holes in the wallsthe autistic vision must be realized before i can move on to anything else
>>741289552SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP I AM SUCCESSFUL DID YOU SEE THE YOUTUBE VIEWS
>>741284664Its how i learned. Pretty good to follow through with
>>741227128post more screenshots of that green lizard girl
>>741292484I'm reminded of when FreakZone Games put out that Tweet like "please RT this, Sparky isn't selling" which blew up (I remember it having like 50k likes and millions of views or something) but didn't seem to have helped much with sales at the time. Social media marketing and/or pitybaiting (the new meta as popularized by Toonsouls) doesn't always convert to sales.
>>741285472Yeah I said nigger once and had to delete my post. Close call.
>>741292838Why do you want a screenshot of her, anon?
>>741227128>>741294372can you date the non humans?
>>741294372There's soul, which has soulful amounts greater than zero.There's soulless, which has soulful amounts equal to zero.And then there's nega-soul, which has soulful amounts less than zero.Congratulations on creating the first few examples of nega-soul.
>>741294727There is no dating mechanic in this game, haha. Although, I did think about it at one point for one of the games in this world... >>When you generate AI art of characters in love, because you are so lonely. It's an abstract kind of feel.
>>741295190I do not understand. I take it that having negative soul is a bad thing. What makes it bad? I am open to your constructive criticism.
>>741295202I don't the hate for ai for solo devs when game studios use it. People bitch like children when you mention e33 and their ai usage. >but muh placeholders!!!They used the machine to make/prompt it, now it knows how to make something based on their prompts. It is like getting arrested and have your fingerprints taken. Too late, nothing you can do.
>>741295294Zero cohesion. It's like looking at a grade school diorama inspired by ransom notes, where everything is unrelated and haphazardly placed to create a scene.
>>741295758I disagree, it looks like furfag tranime stuff to me, that's what he was going for obv
>>741295294pfft, he's blowing it out of proportions.mixed assets or not the game looks decent, lighting, shaders, vfx, skybox. I bet he just wants to step on you and make you drop your game because he's miserable.
>>741295843He could achieve that look and maintain cohesion. The furries look like they were pasted in as an afterthought. There are plenty of great furry games that feel cohesive and believable, this is not one of them so far.I'm not saying it's impossible, as there are anime games featuring anthros I thoroughly enjoy. As it currently stands, I do not find it believable.
>>741295962I am not miserable, I am sick of people treating my lifestyle as a costume that can be slapped onto anime characters.
>>741295758Okay, and in what ways does it have zero cohesion, according to you? The lizard and the other characters look different at the moment, because of different shaders, which I will correct for. I will probably swap out the skybox for something else. As for placement, this scene needs some work, yeah, this was a quick test. Something else? >>741295962Thank you for the kind words.
Man I seriously can't work on the same game for more than a month without getting bored with it and wanting to switch to another game idea. I think Im gonna have to stick to just making very short games with a 1 month dev time to solve this issue.
I’m just frustrated I can’t do anything fast
>>741297202Where do you get bored each time? Is there a specific thing you could change to reduce boredom?
>>741211017>want to make fun platformer like Mario or Sonic>market flooded>uh a metroidvania?>market flooded>topdown zelda style g->market flooded>beat 'em u->MARKET FLOODED>my own unique game genre never before s?>sorry bro, once you put it on the internet the local aifags will just make their own version and spam it so they get paid over yousigh
>>741211017Where's Bevy?
>>741297325>Where do you get bored each time?After I complete most of the games base systems and have created a small slice of what the finished product would look and play like. So creating all the content after that.
there's a new trend on JP twitter called "9 steam games I want to share"
>>741296067>>741295997Yiff in hell furfag
>>741297408you dont want to make games, you want to make money.
>>741297408Just combine the genres you want to make with genres that sell well. I'm making a 3D platformer horror game.
>>741297408oh yeah all those balatro clones totally made so much money dudego back to r/indiedev
>>741298063>>741298149I don't care about moneyMy point is that aifags will rape your idea the moment it's onlineLook at how shitty nextfest isBalatro isn't a game. It's a gambling sim
>>741298438If you can't beat em, join em.
>>741297661I wish I could do that
>>741253127Mintendo
>>741298438AI summary from google claims Balatro IS a game, pal.
>>741298438>I don't care about moneythen make what you want to make. what does it matter to you if someone steals your idea and makes it first? you dont want money so sales shouldn't matter. make your game, make it f2p.
>>741298542>what does it matter to you if someone steals your idea and makes it firstEgomania?>>741298520So is electronic horse racing
>>741298635egomania would motivate you to release the game to prove it's better than the knockoffs.
>>741298438I make good version of idea, AI makes shit version of idea. Why should I be concerned whatsoever? If anything the wave of clones will make people think of my game and play it again.
>>741289989You do. Most books are on a level that you want to achieve not that you currently have. Same goes for tutorials. Very few can open a booknd start coding.
>>741299563No but if you're completely green you don't read an intermediate book. You read a beginner book, you apply the knowledge in practice, and then you read an intermediate one. Problem is most programming books are beginner, advanced, and expert in one. So in practice they're just expert books.
