Reminder that only retards play games with voiceovers in a language they don't understand.
Playing Stalker and Metro with Russian dub was cool
steam community discussion hubs be like>hello devs translate dis game to my language PLS love from ukrein
>>741212660EDF is a completely different experienced in JapaneseThe English dub intentionally sounds like a bad B-movie The Japanese dub is played straight with maximum seriousnessThey are both good times
Nah.
>Fact: My dumb shitty opinion
>>741212660I think I'd prefer to listen to the voices from a country where voice acting is an actual respected career
>>741212660it's no different to turning the voice volume down to 0 if you don't want to hear it
>>741212997EDF is probably the only game where I would prefer a localized script ovee a straight translation, let the writers ham it up and turn it into starship troopers, that's essentially what the Japanese script is doing with kaiju movies
>>741212862this except it's an Indian or Brazilian
>>741212660I don't understand english though.
>>741212660>can't recognize bad Asian voice acting.That's the whole point, retard. It's more enjoyable when I can pretend a shitty aspect is actually good.
/co/tards proving themselves to be the subhuman bottom of the barrel of the site once again
>>741212660>can’t recognize bad Asian voice actingMaybe, but I can certainly recognize bad English voice acting.
>>741213257>t.
>>741213131Said by some basement dweller that doesn't have a job
>>741212660You could always learn
>>741212660>PicrelOh cool. I've been saying that for forever.
>>741213240Badly translated and without context is how its mostly done, its why you get really strange line reads like"SUPER, Newbie""WHAT A CHAOS!""We're Running" - straight mistranslation, it should be "Its Running"
>>741213332OP is probably an /a/fag./co/ is a better board than /v/ these days.
>you like things i don't?>you're only pretending to look smarter than meInsecurity
>>741212660I'd rather listen to literally any language on earth over subhuman californian mutts who had their applications to dub nickelodeon trash rejected.
>>741212660>You just think it sounds better If I think it sounds better then it is better, because art is interpreted.
>>741213332It’s kind of funny how they salivate over trash series like clone wars and avatar which are barely scraping up to the level of some garbage battle shounen that gets axed after 3 volumes
>>741212660I only use subs if dubs aren't available or if the dub is incredibly bad which isnt very often but it happens. I think most non autistic normal anime watchers do this. If I start a show in subs I do get attached and usually won't watch the dub that comes out later like with konosuba
>>741213257>>741213381And because I know there are people ITT who won't get the reference and will think I'm just calling that anon brown, I'll post the clip.https://youtu.be/rsy3-ZfbqW0
>>741212660I'd call you a retard, but the reality is you're just really bad at creating believable bait.
>>741213518The wad of poopy paper wedged in my butt cheeks has more value than /co/
>>741213518/co/ is garbage because their topic of discussion is garbage to begin with, and thus the people it attracts are also garbage
I like to enjoy every media in as much of its original language as possible, as I believe the creator intends their characters to sound a specific way so I will listen to their intent. And yes this obviously does extend beyond muh anime’s. Dark is vastly superior in its German audio with subtitles than the horrendous English dub.
>>741213240they should make their own game instead
>>741212660No.Context wise, japanaese tends to be better because even in current year voice actors are seen as a joke and the most egregious excamples are the likes of Yuri Lowenthal, Crispin Freeman, and Sean Schemmel. Overhyped voice actors with zero range.I sure love my immersion being broken in a game because it's fucking SASUKE or EMIYA voicing a protagonist.Also it's not hard to recognize bad voice acting in JP, look at Asta or the Son family. Only reason DBZ gets away with the granny is because it's iconic.
>>741212660>anime always sounds better in english>this is an absolute truth and all japanese VA are inferior to any english dubberdo retards that write shit like this not understand the irony
>>741212660>be ESL spic>watch 90s murrikan cartoons like Batman TAS, Animaniacs, Duck Tales, etc>Superb voice acting practically breathing life into the characters>watch dubbed anime for the first time>horrible amateurish souless grunts that can't even surpas the cheese acting level of Residen't Evil 1's live action intro>nothing but unprofessional woketards with horrible voice due to hormonal disorders that they force into a cartoonish exageration on top of that>all of them are entiteled as fuck, arrogan pricks with an overinflated sence of self importanceNigger, even Spanish dubs are better than Murrikan. the difference in quality between anime dubs and random cartoons like Ed, Edd & Eddy is like night and dayso yeahNip dubs are objectivelly 1000% above and beyond murrikan dubsor rather, it would be more accurate to say that Murrikan dubs are 1000% inferior to every other anime dub i've ever heard
>>741212660All Japanese voice actors sound the same to me.
>>741212660I'm so sick of japshit I don't even play their games anymore
>>741213751They tried, twice, they were okay but underwhelming for EDF games
I will never read any text in template reposts like this
>>741214107This but not just but murrukan but any anda all European ones as well
>>741212660But anon I do understand Japanese. Some anime do have very good Jap voice acting even if it would never work 1:1 in English (think Dragon Ball dub vs sub differences). The worst think about Jap voice acting in anime and vidya is that it's a very overacted and typically uses abnormal grammar and vocabulary that would be considered uncouth in normal speech since they are typically trying to evoke stock character archetypes (samurai, yakuza, tomboy, flirtatious girl, etc.) This makes it bad way to actually try to learn Japanese vs watching live-action Japanese movies where the characters speak in more naturalistic ways.
>>741213603Rec me something better, then.
>>741215007But the Dragon Ball dub was always superior. I can never get over Goku's granny voice in japanese.
so you are a retard because you didn't knew your own language when you were born
>>741213549I don't know man, I've tried listening to Chinese and it's pretty awful to hear.
>>741215193I'd rather listen to a hundred chinks shouting over each other than the utter anal waste that comes out of the mouth of your average american.
>>741212660>red, redd and reddit
>>741213391I'm at work right now though, are you projecting?
>>741212660I can't understand bad asian voice acting but I CAN understand bad English voice acting, and anime dub is almost universally bad.The ONE time the English Dub was miles better than the JP was playing Valkyria Chronicles.
>>741212997>>741213240TO SAVE OUR MOTHER EARTH FROM ANY ALIEN ATTACK
>>741213994Ok but Liam O'Brien screamed so hard for Asura's Wrath he started bleeding and they used him for the JP version for that scene
>>741212660I'm immersing myself in the language that I'm learning, now fuck off
>>741212997>The Japanese dub is played straight with maximum seriousnessThis sounds way better than what we get desu
>>741215585retard op believes you learn languages without listening to them
THESE DONUTS ARE GREATJELLY FILLED ARE MY FAVORITE
>>741212660Why would I want to listen to bongers in Ukraine?
>I'm not gonna eat some grilled cheese on the radiator like some old man in the can!
>>741212660Dragonball Z sounded better in English, most voices sound better in JapaneseIts less about language and more about voice acting though, in the 90s there were actual VAs getting the job, today it's the same handful of nepobabies and celebrities, see Invincible
>>741212660>Reminder that only retards play games with voiceovers in a language they don't understand.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsfJJpwXTXw
>>741212660I tried this with Baki on Netflix.Japanese voice acting is so good it suspends your disbelief.Just like pro wrestling.The English voice acting is corny as fuck and makes you feel like you are watching the gayest cartoon ever.Like pro wrestling.
>>741215778It's only a matter of time before you can train AI to voice characters in real time. It's the only way to bring all the legendary dead VAs back to life too.
>>741212660I usually try out both since I do want to see what they both sound like. In my experience, JP is often better because they put more effort into the heavy emotional scenes. Like damn near any yell, with very few exceptions (though >>741215581 has a great one).That said, I have come across a few different times when I prefer the NA voice over. Sometimes it's a newbie who hasn't fallen into the rot of not taking it seriously, sometimes the voice just fits the role very well, but either way it does happen occasionally.
>>741215778>Dragonball Z sounded better in Englishfalse. I'm sick and tired of this murrifat-spic bullshit pretending Sean Schimmel has any emotional range, that Bruce Faulconer had more than one or two good tracks (Majin Boo and Vegeta themes respectively), and that dubbing Gohan's incredibly terrible smoker voice over him going ssj2 was anything but a climax ruining decision that someone should have been shot for."I'M MAD ZAMMASSSU, I'M RRLLRRY MAD, HRRHRHR" fucking commit etika, Schimmel
Whay lind of authority do you even have in this topic?Do you speak japanese?
>>741212660>EnglishAnd I don't speak english. So please fuck off you illiterate low iq monkey, you are on level of fucks who need to "localize" offensive shit away from media. Be it gay or trans characters in past, or booba and sexual jokes these days.I despise cretins like you who are so fucking immature and selfish that you not only demand everything dubbed for you, but INSIST its better because "me no understand so it cant be good" even when in somewhere like Japan, voice acting is a huge business and voice actors are almost as known and respected as movie actors.This isn't even "nippon best" shit, but just basic logic. Over here only literal children watches dubbed media.
>>741215095That's why I said those same voices wouldn't work in English even if they sound good in Japanese. People who are multilingual often shift their vocal tones and inflections when changing languages since what sounds normal in one language comes off as unpleasant in another. Like for example this is why people who don't understand Chinese often ask why Chinese people are always sounding angry and screaming at each other. >>741215193 >>741215325
>>741215778Best dub coming throughhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUvJP2X2JMI
>>741216058New York is too green, you can't do some stuff here. Some scams will not work!
>>741215905You will live to see fallout new vegas mods with the house voice actor. And batman getting his god tier VA back>>741215910>ZamasuNo one is talking about Super or Kai where the cast is way too old to do the voices anymore
>>741216058The irony is palpable.
>>741212660actually anime sounds even worse in English. Spanish is the only language that works for anime.
>>741212660Nani?
>>741212660Just say you're brown or retarded. As somone with an n2, it is just much better.
>>741216391Spanish doesn't even work IRL
>>741216058If you knew anything about Burgerland, you'd know it's hardly an ethnostate.A literacy statistic that does not account for race is useless.
Anime in english does that cool guy cyberpunk 2077 voice and I dont like it
>western 'voice acting'kekMy 82 yo grandma is reading her grocery list with more effiort and conviction than 99.9% of western troons pretending to be 'voice actors'.
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>>741216463sorry for having a normal talking speed and not llike a down syndrome retard
>>741212660Almost got it right. The voice you imagine is always the best, so the correct choice is no VA at all.
>>741216489>raceLmaoIt is failure of education system.Muttland is such a shithole it cannot even teach people to read.>"buh blacks...!!!!"Lmao USA cannot teach people to read just admit it. In other places even 1st generation immigrants learn to read. People who haven't had any kind of schools, places where you put all your people to earlier than most other countries.Even mutt president is unable to write properly and needs to take cognitive tests regularly. And he is the person representing their country and people, they chose him willingly. Because they see their country's spirit, culture, intelligence, and attitude in him.Stop being more retarded than average amerimutt.
>>741212660Only retards play games with voiceovers.
>>741215481Dan Green is a better VA than any of your FAGGOT gook VAs
>>741212660That's bsI am ESL and we have much tolerable dub hereEvery english VA in anime/jap games sounds terrible, cringe, retarded all at once and i can only imagine it sounds worse to a native speakerIt sounds like it's stuck in 90ies fandub era eternally
>>741215910https://youtube.com/shorts/DY6OvwUYPn0Delusional faggot.. fucking die
The only fact is that I am always right and everyone else is always wrong.
>>741212660I never thought I could recognize bad Japanese voice acting until Yakuza Kiwami 3. Kagawa sounds like Japanese Donald Duck after smoking a pack a day. Combined with him being a full head shorter than Kiryu I could barely contain my laughter whenever he was on screen
>>741217156>It sounds like it's stuck in 90ies fandub era eternallyFucking this. Its fucking incredible to hear muricans say "dude the dub is so much better! Japanese voice acting is so bad compared to eng dub!" and then its shit like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci8dIpNcyEY
>>741212660Sometimes you CAN hear good or bad voice acting in other languages though. And sometimes I just don't like the English voices themselves, where a character who is supposed to be 16 sounds like a 35 y/o pedophile, and switching to japanese is far less disruptive in that case.
>>741216983You can't comprehend race and genetics because you have an average IQ of 80
>>741212660Reminder that only retards play games
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>>741215910A lot of it has to do with localization and cultural differences between Japan and the English-speaking world. The Japanese idea of a hero is someone who is bold, reckless, daring, a little childish, fights for what he believes, etc. while the American idea of a hero or leader is someone who is more mature, level-headed, cool under pressure, fights for justice and the rule of law, etc. (think John Wayne or Superman). A good example of this is how Fox McCloud is characterized in the Japanese vs English dub of SF64.
>>741217756You try to desperately defend murican education system by blaming people's skin color and insisting people voting for fucking Trump and MAGAfags are somehow super high iq and its only le blacks and without them usa would be full of super smart peopleFucking lmao :D
>>741212660OP, you are an idiot. There's scenes in foreign media where they deliberately do bad voice acting, or bad acting, and it's bad for the same reason.You're the type to gaslight Koreans into thinking the American villain actors in Squid Game were good.
>>741212660Japan has a significantly larger and more formalized voice acting training ecosystem than any other country. There are far more VA training facilities (hundred+ actual academies) and people are trained far longer and more rigorously than on the westThe competition is muchh bigger, VAs in general recieve higher salaries and big VAs are treated as actual celebrities in Japan.Japanese VA is objectively better, you are just conveniennt little bitch that hates reading subs or learning another language and tries to cope by pretending western VA is just as good if not better
>>741212660It's okay OP, as long as you're having fun
there's actually a really easy way to test this and I'm surprised no one has done it. Show native english speakers various anime clips in japanese, some will be considered good by Japanese natives, some will be considered horrible. Let them voice their opinion on whether it's good or bad voice acting. I've lived in Japan over 3 years now and all anime is retarded exaggerated lines that sounds nothing like actual japanese, so for anyone to say it's "good" voice acting is laughable. All Japanese acting is bad by virtue of them hamming it up in every single thing they make. Imagine if every movie had the performance of Bruce Campbell in Evil Dead II. That's Japanese acting.
>>741212660>Nepotistic trannies and Jewesses sound better than an industry where voice acting is a real career
>>741212660Learn Japanese. Problem solved. Plus you get a cute wife as a bonus.
>>741218206>Exaggerated fiction using similarly exaggerated voice delivery is bad voice actingRetarded spotted
>>741212660Very much depends on the anime. Try Lucky Star with english dub and it sounds so wrong
>>741218479More serious anime always have better english dubs. English VAs don't do the moe stuff well
>>741212660I prefer watching dubbed anime, but it's not like there aren't dubs that are of worse quality than the original voices, so there's little point in using the word "always" here other than to be incendiary.
>>741212660i don't care for vocie actors or voice character sin games, at all, ever to me it's as much as a fad as 3D movies were and adds nothing to a game outside of cringey moments that you chuckle at the poor execution of, like in oblivion or every single anime game ever made
>>741218206Japanese acting conventions come from Noh theatre where everything is exaggerated for the audience. It's like how everything was overacted and everyone wore too much stage makeup in American and European silent movies because they were all carrying over customs from Shakespearean theatre. The difference is that Western acting evolved with the times while Japanese didn't as much.
>>741212660I feel like this is some form of cultural disrespect or appropriation that mutts love to bitch about but fail to recognize in their own actions to "cure" racism...
I have unironically never understood the hate boner people get for dubs. It's not supposed to be some amazing VA performance, it's just replacing the job of subtitles and letting you watch the show without needing to read every little piece of dialogue.I know this probably sounds insane or even contrarian but subtitles do kind of diminish pacing, and TV was never intended to be used with closed captioning always on. In Japan, they have lots of text on the screen during daytime television, but it's a cultural tradition that adds to the entertaiment instead of just supplementing it.
Genuinely, how else did children who understood nothing start immersing themselves in spoken and written languages before they knew what words were? What's wrong with immersing yourself in that same situation whether or not you intend to actually learn anything? This just sounds like another opportunity to convince people that convenience is better than the overall experience.
I play most games in English except for Yakuza.
>>741212660I fucking dare you, double dog dare you, go play through Dawntrail with english on you bitch. I will change your pissant opinion in the matter of a few hours.I'll take a jack hammer to your little concrete foundation of an opinion you got there.
>>741212660joke's on you.i already know i'm a retard.
>>741212660But I do understand Japanese though.
>>741219036I prefer dubs in concept, but it's just as hard to just sit back and get immersed if the performance is bad than if I can't understand it. I enjoy cheesy 90s and 2000s dub acting, but in the late 00s/early 10s some awful style of dubbing took over where every character sounded like the same 28 year old guy or girl. English dubs of Japanese games are like that now too. The state of English Zelda voice acting is fucking shameful. Deku Tree voiced by some faggot in his twenties instead of actually sounding like a wise old man, what a joke.
>>741212997EDF dub is 4kids tier which makes it funny
>>741212660If I can't recognise bad asian voice acting that's a net positive, because 90% of english dubs are dogshit and I can tell.
>>741219080>how else did children who understood nothing start immersing themselves in spoken and written languages before they knew what words were?I know what you're saying but children do not learn their language by just passively consuming it. They have everyone around them constantly teaching and correcting them. Those people also slow and dumb down their speech to help them. They have other children at their level to practice with. They get taught grammar and spelling. I'm not saying you can't learn another language by just passively consuming media but its not at all the same situation children go through.
>>741212660I am not a native english speaker so if I have to play on a foreign language then I'd rather have the original voice.
>>741216058>NY that highwith the customers I see on a daily basis there's no way that chart is accurate
>>741212660You're almost right double D, it's because anime often has very cringe writing and it's easier for me to deal with it in writing than hearing it in English.
>>741212997Dub sounds like reddit.
japanese dubs have more SOULhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCzWxmiH_dc
>>741212660English VA are fucking terrible, maybe other countries are better but fuck they suck
>>741212660>you want to feel intelligentbro they want to fuck the VAs half the weebs dont even watch it for the 2D anymore
>>741212660If I followed this garbage "fact," I would've never learned another language.
>>741212660but I understand jap op and you're a faggot
>>741212660I have always known this to be mostly true, but the level of quality comes down to the individual project. I've seen dubs give a horrid lazy treatment while the Japs gave it their all, and I've seen the Japs phone it in, while a Western team totally salvaged the thing. My personal hot take though? Glad you asked. Guild voice actors, and most modern voice acting sucks dick. I hate to hear how they ham it up in a vain effort to become the next top guy. The BEST anime dubs were the ones in the 90s where they would hire homeless bums off the street to deliver corny lines. There was a bizarre sincerity and charm to it. Sounded more natural too.
>>741212660>Both Eng and Jap dubs are greatI feel this is more common in video games than anime. I thought Bloodstained both Eng and Jpn were good voices. Even games like street fighter 6, I prefer the english voices over the japanese one.
>>741225191Imo stuff like FFX and FFXII also are good dubs. And I'm super og dub fag when it comes to stuff. Nostalgia plays part and I will curse the audio mixer in XII.Tidus VA is the exact stuff we need. Same with Balthier whose voice is pure SEX.
>>741226335>FFXIIAfter playing that with english dubs, it was impossible for me to enjoy it in japanese on a second playthrough.
>>741212660I play with english dubs so that I can pay attention to what's happening on the screen. Dubs are generally so bad it's perfectly understandable why people hate them, especially women VAs are embarassing but I believe that might have something to do with the target audience
>Reminder that only re--No. This is genuinely script-reading dogshit with just the producers doing the dubbing voice work instead of actors.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDZyeIxbqoMI'm arbitrary on whether I use the sub or dub, though. And here I used the dub for the comedic factor.
>>741212660I liked it better when games either had no VO or some goobledygook language.Languages I don't understand are the next best thing. If I wanted to listen to people I can understand, I'd go outside.
>>741227068But that dogshit script-reading is the only reason why people even talk about this boring ass game.
>>741212660i will suppork JRPGs with sugoi anime VAs, and AI translated subtitles.take that , trannie corps!
>can't recognize bad voice actingAbsolutely. Let me make everyone sound like Animal Crossing characters. I just want some charming gibberish noises while I read the subtitles.
>>741228253Based gibberish enthusiast.
>>741212660The dialogue should be in the language of where the game is set. Without exception. You are worthless as a person.
>foreign filmsExpected to be watched with subtitles unless it is aimed at young children>foreign gamesMost commonly played with a shitty low budget local dubThe difference is that games are not respected creative works so most are happy to mangle the experience in the name of convenience
>>741212660Trust me, I don't even speak Japanese and I definitely recognize the HORRIFIC voice acting in anime.
>>741212660There was a time when English voice acting was often the better option. They just tried harder. Some studios will also hire real actors, but that’s the exception.Unfortunately, the western voice acting community for videogames and anime has become very tight knit and supremely untalented. I don’t know if they just don’t give a fuck or if they’re just bad at their jobs, but most dubs are distractingly bad. To the point that you’d be better off with just silence. The Japanese actually care about voice acting, and even if you don’t understand all the words, you can still hear the emotion and appreciate their delivery. And, again, anything would be better than the dogshit the western voice actors are churning out.
>just listen to the English dub bro >meanwhile: >>741228716
>>741226514Fran and Balthier are so good.No other va like Fran's
