Has a game ever given you a choice that you thought was very strange, or which made you think?
Fuck whoever comes after me I got mine. Double that shit and send it on its way, my kids will figure it out.
>>741213710>*googles the population of the country*Double it, and give it to the next person.
>>741213710Pull now. Cowards will be put on the track.
No one has to die if you just keep doubling it
>>741213710How did 16 million people get taken from where they were and tied to the track? Or did they magically spawn into existence? Is there a reason to care about someone that poofs into reality just for a shitty hypothetical?
hmm yeah probably
>>741213850technically true, we'll all be tied up to the tracks
>>741213850it will eventually get into the hands of a psycho and at that point the entire population of earth will be on the track
>>741213850A psychopath or brain-dead retard will eventually pull it, and the death toll will be several magnitudes greater than what it is in the image.>>741213904It's a hypothetical, retard. The logistics don't matter. Only the ethical dilemma matters.
>>741213850Tbh, dying is probably better than being bound to a train track between 7 billion people for all eternity.
>>741213850But do you trust that the next guy isn't literally the Joker?
>>741213776Be grateful.
>>741213710Pull it. The trolley can't crush more than a dozen and you'll end up tied to the track eventually.
>>741213850Part of the premise of this problem is usually that the people can't escape, so eventually you'd end up with the whole world except for one person foreverially tied up on the track.
>>741213710I immediately kill the person proposing the problem to prevent more people being tied to train tracks, chased by immortal snails or god fucking help me washing each other's backs while there are no mirrors present.Remember that it is always ethically correct to kill people who use game theory and they are required to accept this and should thank you for it. Don't think too hard about it though or else you'll also need to be killed.
>>741213710So if you pull now nobody else will have to deal with the problem? Yea I'll do it.
>everyone keeps doubling it>by the end there's going to be more people on the top track then there are people alivejust fucking pull the thing, with 16 million people it's probably 99% indians anyway
>>741213710Give it to the next person and tell them to double it too
>>741213710This is choiceslop
>plot twistThe people tied up on the tracks are actually the people who chose to not double.So if you choose to kill the people you are going onto the tracks next.
>>741213968the logistics are part of the dilemma
I kill person asking me to take part and then kill everyone on the tracks and then kill myself
>>741213776Boomer-san...
This one is my favorite
>>741213850Humanity will go extinct by the time it got passed over to the 30th guy
>>741213710PullIf it keeps passing eventually I'll end up on the tracks. If I pull now I'm going to jail, but at least I won't be run over by a trolley
>>741213710Free EXP>>741213850Games going to lag eventually
>>741213850>>741214226I feel like this joke image is actually a valid idea because the first 8 or so people would look at it as needlessly killing a huge amount of people, and it would take a while before someone thinks of the big picture if the problem continues. Ends up being a classic problem of kill a few to save the majority. With an added complication that it seems needlessly cruel at the start. It's only when the problem is big enough that someone can see it. Basically, kill immigrants before they land.
>>741213850Not my problem.
>>741213710Does the train track magically spawn more people or is it capped at Earth's population?If it's capped, just keep sending it and you'll eventually save everyone's lives. If not, well, that's another discussion. Infinite people spawner could be useful.
>>741213710If I can choose who I put on tracksIt would be the richest person and down from there.
>>741213776doubling has a chance to put you on the track
What race are most of the victims?
>>741214823>the mass of the people becomes its own planet.
>>741213776Why are boomers so evil and psychotic?Like is aging related to becoming an entitled narcissistic freak or something, what's going on
>>741213710You know you could just set them free.
>>741215024they were always that way. there was such an overabundance of resources after ww2 that "fuck you I got mine" didn't actually mean that. the next guy wasn't fucked, he just had to go over to the next pile of unlimited prosperity.at this point some boomers are starting to realize everything is fucked, but their response is just "god will take care of it"
>>741213710This isn't a marathon where you can pass it onto another guy. The classic problem implies it's a split second decision and the train moves fast.
>>741213710I pull the lever. Not to end the doubling cycle, just cause I can't stand people in general.
>>741215112for some reason I read that as "set them on fire"
Can't you just destroy the train or something?
>>741213710This is honestly a hard choice. Being personally responsible for the deaths of over 16 million people is very tempting, but then you prevent exponentially more people from dying. And if no one ever pulls it then you basically did nothing.I think I'll avoid the risk and pull.
>>741214938The Orks are simultaneously the biggest tragedy of the 40k universe and the inevitable winners.
>>741215024The world they lived in was filled with limitless prosperity and they refuse to live in a world where they can't have that for themselves. They will make sure that you pay into their retirement (That you might not ever get yourself), not own your own home, and your wages are low so that they can have tons of money to spend on cheap goods in their house that's gone up 10x in price over the past 30 years.They don't even care about legacy because they just want to consume and then die.
>>741213710I pull the lever>"I will no longer partake in this inferno of modal dillemas. This trolley curse ends with me!"
>>741213710if my calculations are correct this started at around 500 BCE and then one day for no reason at all someone tried to pull the lever.
>>741213710>double it until the entire world population is included>put the dudes that came up with this first in line>kill them>since now they're dead, the entire thing can be stopped
>>741215024Imagine being your run-of-the mill retard with 80iq (if put to perform modern iq test) due to huffing leaded gasoline gases their whole life. No matter what kind of fuckup you were you still got huge raises, an apartment thats now worth millions and whatnot. You just did bare minimum, so anyone living currently not getting the same must be lazy and even more incompetent than you since you cannot comprehend that life works by different rules now. Or maybe you could, but that'd be admitting your success is due to sheer dumb luck and you'd be absolutely fucked growing up now. Its willful ignorance to explain why you got so much despite putting in 10% of the effort. Its easier to explain to yourself that "you earned it fair and square".
>>741213956>>741213968If you are a psycho, do you pull the lever so you are directly responsible for killing a bunch of people, or let it keep going so you're indirectly responsible for a larger amount of people dying?
>>741213710Hard mode: It's the population of India
>>741216163>>since now they're dead, the entire thing can be stoppedThere is no reason to assume this.
>>741214223>consumption-driven economy & capitalismYup.
>>741213710If we can make it to the 9th guy then it should wrap around back to zero. Or its signed and at the 8th guy we are either safe or the entire universe implodes.
>>741213710I pass it on, only with the assurance I will have another opportunity to pull the level once we reach an actually meaningful amount. 16 million is a drop in the bucket of the billions of worthless vermin we have scurrying around the planet.
Why don't we just stop the trolley?
>>741216926it requires exponentially more bodies to stop it
>>741216926Where's the fun in that? There's no gambling with lives by stopping the trolley
>>741213710>government debt and social programs>pension systems in a demographic decline>printing money and inflation>corporate bailouts and "too big to fial">climate change from fossil fuelsWhy is this meme an analogy for so many things?Also wasting time on hobbies instead of self improvement.
>>741216972We could ask the guy who drives it to stop the trolley. We could cut the power or blow up the tracks
>>741216441just hypothetical, Other than some support lines being dead tomorrow, what would be the implication of 1.4 billion corpses in some country?Could we just ignore it?Could the neighboring countries just ignore it?
>>741217031>"Wasting time on hobbies"This is one of the most preposterous sentences I've ever heard. You cannot waste time with your hobbies by definition. Your hobbies are exactly what you should always be spending your time on.
>>741217163Everyone would immediately try to take the land.
New people are born much faster than you can pass this question on to them if everyone has even a moment to condsider. No one has to ever die.
>>741217163Let's assume for a second that no catastrophic effects from unmanned mechanical items (factories, power plants, etc) occurs.The sheer multitude of corpses there would dramatically alter the ecosystem but it would probably recover within a few years, very shortly after the bodies finish decomposing and nature begins reclaiming the land
>>741217419Especially if those hobbies involve, hunting, fishing, fighting, and hearing lamentation of women.
>>741213710Pull it.Better to get it out of the way before it becomes a world ending crisis. Someone WILL eventually pull it and more than 16 million will die.
>>741217552The bodies alone would do basically nothing. 1.4 Billion humans are nothing compared to the amount of beings that has existed on earth. 1.4 billion dead bodies existing at the same time would just decompose and cease to exist and the earth itself wouldn't even care they were there.
>>741213710Instead, I chose something different, I chose the impossible.
>>741217163I think that if you left the corpses alone to rot nature could probably take care of the issue in a couple of months.What really could fuck the world over is the fact that India has a huge chemical industry. So if you are dependant on e.g. medication you might not get it at all.
>>741213956Nothing about this says that it's the population of Earth being placed on the rails though
>>741213710That train cannot possibly kill all of them.
>>741217721You finally caught that mustache twirling asshole.
>>741217721In the sequel the hero of the previous game then became an amoral villain since he's had noone to offer him ethical conundrums.
>>741213850Eventually the buck will pass to some nihilistic misanthrope that will pull the lever and wipe out all of humanity.
>>741217721To be unyielding in the face of the abyss is the highest ideal we can strive towards.
>>741213776What if you and your kids are part of the doubled victims count?
>>741214010if you don't think the joker would jump at the chance to give this problem to the next person, you don't understand his character
>>741217950Who will pull the lever once everyone is tied to the tracks?
>>741217419Everything you do that isn't part of an elaborate mating ritual is wasteful.
>>741213904They built the track under themselves and tied themselves to it. They were told the track would bring prosperity.
>>741218094Profound.
>>741213945Surely a view escape artists will be tied to the tracks as well, or if nothing else, we could start gnawing on our neighbors' restraints, and with no one left on Earth to take the deal, given time, we'll all be freed.
>>741217709are you sure, the mass of decomposing corpses could create a fog of death and poison the rivers (not much different from indias current rivers I suppose) and possibly create an insect plague
>>741217163All of the local wildlife would probably develop taste for human flesh which would be annoying
>>741218394The vultures would shit themselves that's for sure.
>>741218083Some people unironically live their lives like that huh? Kinda crazy...
>>741218272I mean, could it affect other humans? Sure.Would it affect the earth in the long term? Not at all. Give it a couple years and all that is left is a huge pile of bones
>>741217721Utopia...
>>741213904They're all jeets izzatfarming on the tracks. Are you really going to kill 16 of Elon's future engineers and scientists just because they were following a trend? We were all young dumb trend chasers once.
>>741218686*16m
>>741217721All youve done is deliberately killed one man to save many. You didnt solve the trolley problem, you've enforced it
>>741220810No one else will be subjected to the trolley problem though
In 10 doubles everyone will be on the track.
>>741213776Passing it on is the way to go, since there's no rule saying this can't be indefinite. We can just pass it on forever.That is until the choice arrives at a psychopath like me. Kill them all.
>>741213710Isn't this just an average day in India?
>>741213850If you didn't catch it, this entire trolley problem is about rolling out the problem to someone else until it spirals out of control and everyone dies because of it.In real life the argument of>Just keep passing it on and it will be fineWill not work and everyone knows it. But rolling out the problem to someone else is always "better" than solving it yourself>TL;DR if you don't pull the lever everyone will die eventuallyThe correct solution in this trolley problem IS to pull the lever immediately
>>741213710I mean yeah, but I was young back then
>>741220883lol
>>741213710depends, if its all indians,chinamen,jews,etc id pull that shit without hesitation
>16 million Indians are tied to train tracksWhat's the big deal? Pull the lever
>>741220810
>>741221165>only 16 millionDouble it, give it to the next person
>>741217976"Anon presents the welcome discovery of a great and heroic character, such as sometimes arise, in a degenerate age, to vindicate the honour of the human species" -Edward Gibbon
>>741217721cool it with the antisemitism
>>741221239But I can't guarantee that the next person won't double it, and the next, and the nextWithin just a handful of doubles the entire population of the Earth will be on the tracks. I want to pull the lever so Im going to do it
I support gradual depopulation
>>741213710I would pull it because eventually I will end up on the track if it keeps doubling.
>>741221165>>741221239New trolley problem:There are 16 million indians tied to a track.You can pull the lever now to get rid of 16 million of them.You can also pass it on to the next person hoping they will pull the lever themselves.But you can also refuse to partake in this altogether. The trolley problem is solved and no one dies.Passing it on doubles the amount of indians tied to the track.Do you get rid of only 16 million or pass it on hoping to get rid of more at the risk of not getting rid of anyone?
>>741213850Do you work in finance
What a scary thought experiment..
>>741221732Can I am it or is random spread?
>>741220810At least he'll leave a worthy successor.
>>741218000If you think the Joker wouldn't yank it when the number got big enough because, "Well, someone's gotta do it," and "Fucking cowards can't take a joke," you don't understand his character.
>>741214108>Remember that it is always ethically correct to kill people who use game theory and they are required to accept this and should thank you for it.Correct, but they would never thank you because 1) game theorists are like subjectivists/relativists and cannot be consistent in their principles; 2) game theorists live in denial because game theory never actually works because people's motivations and actions are not entirely (if at all) rational on any scale, and that is before factoring in cultural conditioning and differences.
>>741213710Some dingus in the future will inevitably choose to kill all the people eventually.So fuck that dingus! These 16777216 kills are MINE and mine alone.That's unless there is a limit like after 30 or 40 people the railway stops and nobody gets hurt, then I would pass.
>>741220810Gottem
>>741213710This describes pollution, late stage capitalism and the mere act of making children btw
>>741220883oh my lold
>>741214090and loving every second of it
>>741213710who is forcing me to make the decision?why did the previous people choose to just ignore the problem?
>>741223928Good goy, go extinct, do it for the planet.
>>741213710statistically this will be majority indians so I will pull the lever
>>741224168I'm the goy not raising new cattle for pedos to tax? I mean I guess there's the CHANCE their life would be better than mine, but mine is comfy and it's still a miserable slog. Also everyone in my family feels the same way, wonder if it's to do with this genetic shit you fags are always on about.
>>741223048sorry m8. you just don't understand his character is all. it's fine, most people don't get it.
>>741213710It's only going to take like 30 passes before everyone in the world is on the tracks.
>>741220883can we also insert the allegory of the cave somehow?
>>741221732I pass the lever to myself until every single indian is tied to the track
>>741223048That anon might be on to something.Joker would decline to pull the lever, only for it to be revealed he was waiting for it to be a hero's turn so it would be a choice of an unforgivable culling or the life of someone they know and none of those strangers will care died for them.And whatever happens he'll eventually try to make sure both happen anyway, and Gotham still won't execute him.
>>741220883I love these threads
>>741216731T: 80iq Commie
>>741223253True game theory is understanding that every major power in the world works and SHOULD WORK according to the game theory. But someone, at some point midway through the chain of command will understand that what they are doing is wrong and hopefully not act according to it.
>>741218000CHECKED
>>741213905So why don't China and India conquer the whole world with their massive zerg armies?
>>741213710Double it in hopes that a true G gets it when there's at least a billion minimum and then pulls the lever.
>>741224821Because the average zerg is smarter
>>741213850Eventually the mass of bodies will crush itself and form a black hole, resulting in the death of everyone involved.They may crush each other before that point, depending on the length of the track.
>>741224821zerg wouldn't really be that great against modern warfare plus consider at least 50% of them are women so useless. Then average another big percentage for all the kids and elderly. The zerg isn't as big as you'd think.
>>741224821They don't have the logistical capacity or infrastructure to move or feed their armies beyond their own borders.
>>741213968>>741217950The irony is that the psychopath misanthrope isn't actually there and the lever will be pulled by someone like you.
>>741213710Do you ever get tied to the train tracks? Say, when the number on the tracks exceeds the number of alive humans? Does anybody you know get tied to the tracks in the future? Is anybody you know tied to the tracks now? Or is there an infinite supply of hypothetical people you have no connection to? Personally I wouldn't think you responsible for the deaths of anybody if you don't pull the lever, but the assumption is that eventually somebody eould pull the lever, and less people would have died if it would have been you to do it. However nothing in the scemario rules states that somebody has to pull the lever so it really is emtirely the fault of whoever actually does it. But people are stupid.
>>741213710Cut the lever so nobody can pull it
>>741224415Probably, best you don't breed and pass on your defeatist genes.
>>741225220If some fuck ties me to the train tracks, I will use my knife to cut myself free and leave.
>>741224952Or become the anti-spiral race that will enslave humanity in the deep future preventing us from ascending our true nature
>>741213710FUCK the train
>>741213850You're doubling it so that no one has to die.I'm doubling it to eventually match India's population number.
>>741225220Ironically not pulling the lever is actually the immoral choice.
The trolley must be idle, waiting for the first lane switcher, because it cannot know which person, if any, would initiate such a switch. A train in movement is thus out rules because the obvious solution then would be to just wait.After enough pulls, all qualified or potentially qualified trolley drivers will be placed on the tracks wearing striped shirts. As nobody would be able to drive the trolley, this leaves them an unlimited amount of time for them to get up, evacuate and change into something less embarrassing. Therefore, immobilising the lever with cement or similar and passing always is the correct option. QED.>b-but they are tiedIncorrect, they are wearing striped shirts. Next time write that on the problem itself, dumbass.
>>741226501Killing people is ALWAYS wrong, psycho
>>741225895Oh silly anon. The floating mass of bodies in space is the next step into ascension.Soon we will all be glorious angels of evolution!
>>741217897This.
>>741213905You can't convince me that this shit is normal and not in any way sponsored by their respective states.
>>741226862You underestimate the size of those countries and how little significance human lives have to them
>>741220810Someone so fucked up in the head to come up with all these murder schemes has deliberately and repeatedly disavowed his humanity, so there's no moral burden to this killing.Stepping on the grass would be worse.
>>741213710I pull it just to see who dies.
>>741227014There are bigger countries with just as much arable land that don't breed more than rabbits.In video games.
>>741224456
Anon here's a lever.If you pull it an unknown number of people will die.You can freely choose not to pull it without consequence.Do you pull it?
>>741227352Pull it in rapid succession
>>741227352>You can freely choose not to pull itThat's reverse psychology
>>741224821They are, what do you think immigration is?
>>741213710>Look we either genocide now or we’ll need a super mega genocide later
There is a lever.You cannot pull it.What would you do?
>>741227852I fuck it
>>741227852Shove it in my ass
>>741227352I bet there would be someone who'd argue it's ok to pull it because the "unknown number" could be zero
>>741227852Try to pull it really hard.Get really pissed.Kick it.Break it off.Leave.
>>741227304Those other big countries have high development and overall better quality of life. Better QOL = Less need for kids to help you provide for the household = Desire to invest in your kids instead = Raising kid becomes a money drain = Less desire to have kids.Of course, this is a mechanic in Victoria 2, a video game.
>>741213850Leave it to zoomers to not understand the dilemma.
>>741213710>>741213776>Boomerswhoever pulls the lever will get the blame, not the 24 people behind himnever the people behind himyour peace is your peacetheir lives are their lives
>>741215024Unironically the lead in the gas made them belligerent animals.
>>741225239anon that's a disk for polishing, not for cutting
>>741226501Its immoral by consequentialism but not by deontology.
>>741228590Let me polish the lever then
>>741228590Just change the attachment:https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-safety-alert-issued-for-angle-grinder-chainsaw-disc-attachment
>>741213956tfw I'm the psycho
>>741228847This is meant for cutting wood.Most levers are metal.The real solution is breaking off the lever with your bare hands and raw strength.
>>741226862I have this copium theory in the back of my mind that says that coutries lie already about everything for their (government's) own preservation, so they might as well lie about population counts as welltherefore, poor shithole countries would lie about headcount upwards to artificially report even lower wealth per capita and demand more gibs
>>741229048>The real solution is breaking off the lever with your bare hands and raw strength.By trying this you inevitably pulled the lever
>>741215024It’s really not complicated. They grew up in a time of plenty and amassed wealth and prestige. Who would want to give it up? Even the most generous individual can be convinced by the majority to act like a selfish retard. The world’s dying and people are suffering but they don’t see the effects, so who cares?
>>741216441
>>741216209Acknowledging that is admitting that the rules of the game have changed, which is admitting that modern life is harder, which is admitting that their life was easier, which undermines and devalues the hardships they've gone through to get to where they are, and means admitting that their thoughtless consumption and expansion was short sighted and never accounted for future generationsWhich means is just a matter of pride, and they will refuse to give way until their very last breath, and it will be only at then when we will be able to rip the bandaid off and start changing the world as it is now to fix the problems the past never accounted for. And that is going to hurt, because we let the blood stick to the bandaid for far too long
>>741229195Besides pulling, you can also push.Or yank the thing from its socket altogether. Or twist it. Or bop it
>>741215024I've seen some boomers starting to wake up and realize the struggle of their children recently and get involved into politics because of that.Heard two old retired ladies talking about the economy situation for younger generations while on the bus the other day, and saying that they (the elderly) can't be content to sit on their ass all day and she encouraged the other to get involved in voting to change the situation.Was quite heartwarming to be honest.
>>741216441I don't pull the lever so the amount gets doubled again.I hope the subsequent people don't pull the lever until it's the entire population of india on the tracks and then some chud pulls the lever, killing all of them.Because better giving someone else the chance at killing all indians than just 16777216, even if it would be tempting and fun.
>>741213710american_economy.jpeg
I want to live on a different planet apart from all disgusting humans.I only take video games with me.
>>741215024>Why did you steal from the cookie jar? >I DIDN'T STEAL FROM THE COOKIE JAR!!! A lot of people are fragile when confronted of their own wrongdoings. Boomers are probably more sensitive than most demographics though. They spent their whole life being told that they're special and that they're going to change the world.
>>741229340>You can choose whether India or Africa get blown up by an alien laser from orbit>The other, and everyone else on the planet by that matter, would perish slowly and painfully from the destroyed atmosphere and biosphere die off from the near complete blockage of sunlight caused by the suspended debris>except the unlucky ones enough to die mad from years of isolation in bunkersit was rigged from the start
>>741214823What i wonder is how fast can that train kill people. If its speed doubles everytime, then everything is fine until it becomes faster than light.If it's speed stays the same or can't become faster than light, there'll be a point where people will die of natural causes before they're run over. I couldn't be bothered with the math behind so I outsourced it, and apparingly with 5.64 times 10^17 humans (assuming a tied human every half meter) you already have a track that spans 100 light years.It seems a lot of people, but it gets doubled everytime so it's easy to reach
>>741225220>>741226501After 2^33 gets you over the entire world's population. If at that point the experiment would end then you only need 33 people to not my psychopaths to have everyone survive.
>>741220883I push the fat guy
>>741213710Where are they getting these people?If I double it is there a chance I'm being added to the pile?
>>741213710>if you pull the lever it's some other people that die>if you don't there's a chance you'll be on the trackswhy wouldn't you pull it
>>741213710yes i want those idiots to die right now
>>741213968I think it's much more likely to be pulled by someone practical who wants to stop this before it gets more extreme, as you are considering in this very post.
If you pull the lever, you become immortal, invulnerable, and in your peak years.However, all other people on Earth also become immortal, invulnerable, etc.Would you pull the lever?
>>741213710The only right solution to any form of the trolley problem is the kill the person asking you to make the choice.You didn't randomly stumble into this situation fully aware of your potential options and their consequences and those people didn't tie themselves to the tracks either. This entire situation was engineered from the beginning by a third party. Kill them or the games may never end.
>>741227341Need to add the blue-button red-button dilemma to this.
>>741230008>Everyone gets tied to the train tracks>Everyone slowly diesof dehydration.>Nobody wins.
>>741213710Just keep doubling it, there is no downside.I would pull the lever once every single person on earth was included.
>>741213968>The logistics don't matter. Only the ethical dilemma matters.Logistics are the ethical dilemma, retard, after a point there's so many people tied to the teacks it becomes impossible to untie them all before they slowly starve to death, if that point is reach then the "ethical" choice is to give them a quick death via the train
>>741215024yes people become more selfish as they age and are beaten down by life. what a dumb question. you are 12 years old
>>741230505You only need 33 people to double it for it to become an extinction event. And there are going to be a disproportionate amount of jeets getting chosen because of their population size. Are jeets capable of thinking about long term ramifications?
>There are 501 people left in the world on 2 boats. One boat has 300 passengers and the other has 200 passengers and you. Both boats are at capacity. At the same time both boats begin to sink due to mechanical problems. Only you can fix them, but you only have the equipment to fix one boat. So which do you fix? The boat you are on or the boat with more passengers?>If you pick the boat with 300 passengers the 200 passengers of your current boat will try to stop you, and you won't be able to leave until killing all of them. So now what do you do? >If you chose to kill 200 passengers, then, at a later time the 300 passengers have relocated to 2 new boats. One boat has 200 passengers and the other has been 101 passengers including you. Both are at capacity. The same mechanical problem occurs and you are forced to pick knowing that if you choose the 200, the 100 will try to stop you and you'll have to kill them.
No, but I will be posting many times and eventually when I can ensure complete extinction of humanity forever I will say yes.
>>741220810>If you kill him you'll be just like himWhoa
>>741230928a low iq person posted this
>>741230630But how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast in the morning?
>>741230848as I grow older I realize that "just throw everyone under the bus for marginal gains" is not a good philosophy of life especially in the long term, I try to at least not create additional problems for people and I can I also help solve them whenever possible
>>741214215>>741215024Gen z says the same thing about millennials. And they're right.
>>741230662The OP suggests nowhere that they're tied to the tracks instead of just wearing striped shirts. The original problem's drawing could get away with looking so shitty because it flat out told you.
>>741230928>fixing it>not letting fate take it's courseI shan't repair anything
>>741229436This didn't happen. More boomer propaganda. The most unbelievable part was that you took public transportation
>>741213710>A trolley reinforced with a spiked ram is rushing down a junction.>You can pick which direction it will go.>Left, it will run over every single pajeet on earth, wiping out the entire populance of india.>Right, it will run over some golden retriever, 5 kittens, Donald Trump, an unknown person in spec ops gear, a very obese white man and an anime body pillow.Which direction do you chose?
>>741230928I punch you in the face overboard and have everyone relocate to the 2 new boats immediately.Then land at the earliest convenience so we can start replacing sequentially every single part of them for no particular reason.
>>741213776we solve it by using your body as the breaks
>>741216731it's samsara retard
>>741227352I pull it repeatedly until the unknown number of people equals the state of israel
>>741217721Remember what they took from you
>>741230653is that the retarded one where one of the buttons kills you unless 50+% of people press it and the other one is completely safe
>>741232152Can I fap while I watch?
>>741231625>for no particular reasonThere IS a reason: looks like those boats constantly sink, gotta replace every part to make sure it won't happen again.
>>741227852Twist it.Bop it.Pull it.
>>741232183>Average Casualties Unknown player
>>741232183>anon getting cucked by a trainoof...
>>741213710I get what this is trying to say, but there's no indication that doubling it will never not be an option so doubling is the obvious answer.
>>741230928Everyone dies anyways because a strong proud black woman thinks it's her turn to fix the boat. Everyone lets her do it instead of you and your masters degree and 20 years of experience fixing boats.
>>741232183What part of only did you not understand?
>>741231625One of the passengers then asks you if his luggage is still on the same boat. What do you reply?Keep in mind, the passenger was raised in a cave and only experienced said boat through shadows reflecting on the cave wall. The cave was inhabited by evil demons who sometimes lie.
>>741213710>A trolley is heading towards a junction.>On one side there are 1000000000000000000000 highly unpleasant peoples tied to the rails>On the other side, there 1 a single KOOL 1337 RAD GIGACHAD!!!!!!!! with HUGE MUSCLES and KOOL CLOTHES tied to the rails, still keeping KOOL despite his predicamentWhich side do you send teh trolley?
>>741232183>anon starts to fap as he watches his wife get rammed by a train
>>741232210Which inadvertently solves the Thesseus paradox.No, the ship after replacing every single part is no longer the original ship. That ship sucked ass.
>>741232152Meduka...
>>741217163not muchit would have lesser effect that one week of 1.4 bln people shitting and throwing garbage outsome big industrial complexes exploding would be bigger issue
>>741232626The side with the gigachad, because he can stop it one finger.
>>741232652>implying he has a wife
>>741232785NOOOOO! YOU OUTPLAYED ME!!!
>>741213710>pull the lever off-screen and the day before>people die through no fault of my own
>>741232570I tell the passenger the devils stole the luggage and hid it behind one of three doors, the other two concealing goats. He can recover his luggage by choosing the correct door. Upon choosing a door, one of the other two doors is opened, revealing a goat. He can then choose to switch doors, or stick with his current door of choice AND get a free year of boat insurance with $200 excess.
>>741232654If you replace every part with an identical part, chances are that the ship is going to sink again.
>>741220938>pass it on indefinitely >number eventually exceeds the total number of humans that have ever lived on this planet by several orders of magnitude >????????????>profit!
>>741213710What color are the people?
>>741232909Well that's not a problem is it? You can always transfer your sins to a chicken
>>741232626>Choose to kill unpleasant people>Gigachad breaks free to stop the train to keep you from becoming a murder>he looks at you in disgust and refuses to brofist you>Choose to kill Gigachad>Gigachad breaks free showing he was never in any danger>he bends the tracks to make the trolley kill the unpleasant people>brofists you for giving him the chance to kill them>>741232728>turn around quickly in such a way that knocks both of you onto the tracks>use your fat body to save him in the fall>push him off the tracks before he realizes what is going on>he believes you caused the fall and that you chose to save his life before your own because it was your fault>he's still somewhat traumatized from seeing you go splat, but he's happy that someone sacrificed their life for him
>>741213776>missing the chance to beat the IRL high scorePUUUSSSSYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>741213710Nothing but midwits in this thread who fail to understand how quintessentially ridiculous it is to apply any exponential logic to the real world.Just 34 iterations (2^34) and you already lacks humans.I say let's go and aim for more humans than there are atoms in the observable universe.
>>741213710KILL
>>741233265This.If the people will die anyways, it may aswell go on MY personal kill count, not the stupid dinguses after me.
>>741217721>but then you'll be JUST LIKE HIM!!!!
>>741233301If everyone is tied to the tracks noone can actually pull the lever.
>>741230736>There is no downsideAnon... >>741220964
>>741213710I'll double it until it reaches the global population, then I'll pull the lever.
>>741227967What if it's an imaginary number?
>>741233356>the based man sacrifices his personal integrity to save the others from making that choice>little did he know that the man he has just killed once made the same choice
>>741230928I fix my boat and then start replacing every single part of my boat with the ones of the sunken once since it's not the same boat anymore so it won't endless keep sinking
>>741213710keep doubling it until a stack overflow occurs
>>741233502>the player was the true villain all along
>>741233301if everyone winds up on the tracks, there's nobody to switch before the trolley passes by if it is movingor to start up the trolley if it isn't then, if absolutely nobody is able to untie themselves before dying of thirst then humanity deserved to go extinct anyways
>>741229386vidya_journalists.webm
>>741214108>Remember that it is always ethically correct to kill people who use game theory and they are required to accept this and should thank you for it.Yeah, you make a good point.
>>741213710Here is another one:>There is a trolley heading towards a junction>On the right side, there is the entire population of india tied to the rails, but then after them ur mom, ur dad, your best friend, and everyone you love and care for.>On the left side, there is just a single lone fat black pedophile trans woman tied to the rail.Which side do you send the trolley?
>>741232728Why THE FUCK would I jump on the track goddamit
post some trolley meme with Indians, I know you have one
>>741233705If you're fat enough to stop a train with your body them you might as well just end it right there
>>741233703Your version would be more interesting if you put my loved ones on the other track. As it is, it's just 1 vs many.
>>741229340>fucking hell, why is it so cold outside now?
>>741233703left would still be helping the world in some small way
>>741233204Flesh
>>741215024Lead poisoning from leaded gasoline causing low level psychopathy in the entire generation
>all these arguements over who to kill or who deserves to die>ignoring the fact that no one has ever stated if the trolleys brakes work or notClearly, the trolley driver is the lowest common demoninator and should be killed on entirely moral grounds
>>741233843You know how fat you'd have to be to stop a train?Considering how dense steel and iron is compared to human body fat, the guesstimated speeds and lengths involved, and some back of the napkin fluid physics, in order to stop a train someone would have to weight at least as much as yo mama
>>741233867The idea is, would you pick the chance to wipe out the entire populance of india if it also meant killing your family and everyone you know and love and essentially ruining your own life.Or take the participation trophy of just killing a single fat black pedophile trans woman.
>>741234102Is this an allegory for bodycounts?
>>741234102I mean... that's a lot of friends
>>741233703>>741234125I pick killing the fat pedophile trans woman because that is worse than being Indian times 1.7 billion
>>741234371Ok
>>741229515Unless some bleeding heart libreal decides to pull it after the victims are more diverse.
>>741234371You pick killing yourself? That tracks.
>>741234520It would still be at least double the indians dead because I decided to not pull it previously.
>>741213710Yeah I'd pull it, someones gotta step up.
>>741217721I really like this image. It captures the essence of what Internet meme should be.
>>741220883.............42
How did indian hate over take black hate in the past few years?
No, game that do this are essentially just a survey form. You pick the option the game developers want you to choose because it gives the most reward. I don't even pay attention, cause half the time it's them weaseling in their politics.
reminder that one russian guy said no to two of his superiors in a required unanimous vote to launch nukes in response to what they thought was a US nuclear strike the reason you and your family are alive and humanity didn't turn the entire earth into a nuclear wasteland is because one guy said no
>>741235020Reasons I hate indians:>They make gross unhygienic streetfood that would give me diseases.>They scam western people from their call centers.>They litter.>They live in slums.>They pollute their countries beautiful nature.>Their "holy" river is polluted with random mystery chemicals.>There are giant mountains of trash in their cities.>Indians consume a lot of porn and onlyfans.>Indians rape white women.>They are very overpopulated and overcrowded.>They throw with shit which is gross. I hate scat fetish garbage.>They shit on designated shitting streets™>They sometimes eat shit too I think.>Furry BDSM >>>>>>>> Scat!!!!!>They are just nasty and unsanitary in general.>They say "SAAAAAAAAAR" which is obnoxious and pisses me off.>It's funny.
>>741213710
>>741213710kill the 16 million. Otherwise you are killing 32 million+>but I didn't directly cause those 32 million to dieYou still sentenced them to death. There's also the possibility of you ending up there
>>741235120Damn shame.
>>741226387The dilemma is about people, not indians.
>>741232728do I have to be indian to understand this dilemma
>>741230653I'd argue a well remembered though choices was Assassin's Creed Odissey famous "Do you save a family, or risk a plague?"I obviously wanted to kill them AND the priests to limit the risk of contaminations, obviously planning to isolate myself after that in case I become ill.
>>741235142The average indian IQ borders the medical definition of retardation
>>741217897You can't even be a hero or villain without moral conundrums to face. He sacrificed himself and became the villain for this fundemental truth.
Fallout 3's tower quest with the ghouls is a famous one on /v/
>>741221165>>741221732>>741216441Killing 16,000,000 indians is nothing. If you killed 1,000,000 indians every day, it would take around 1,500 days to kill every indian in the world (assuming births aren't taken into account)That means you killed 16/1500 days of indians
>>741229123i mean all footage of india supports their census.
>>741230638KEK
Well?
>>741233378>everyone dying>a downsideWin/win in my opinion.
>>741234102It would be more embarrassing to be the only person left out, so being a good friend I do the high jump
>>741218094Holy kek
>>741224821Jeets are spreading creep in Canada and Texas right now
>>741232728But I'm not fat. And I had breakfast already.
>off topic thread on /v/>devolves into fuck the jeets within 300 posts You can almost set your watch to it
>>741213710I don't think a train is strong enough to cut through 16.7 million people piled up like that
>>741235790You can thank me for that, SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR!
>>741235120Are you telling me we could have been spared all this? Fuck's sake, he should have pressed the button on principle, now we live in hell.
>>741235840Well not with that attitude
>>741227852open sarcophagus
>>741213710Immediately pull. Who cares about the 17 million already on the track, if I don't pull now there's a chance I end up on the tracks on the next doubling.
>>741220938I'm a psychopath and I would pass it just so the number is higher.
>>741235790>almostThen we need to step up our game, clearly
>>741235120Yeah bro we all watched the EmpLemon video.It is a pretty good video
>>741235120>later reprimanded and demoted because he didn't follow orders
>>741232152
>>741232909>choke a chicken a few days after>sins absolved
Pull the lever.Everyone on the tracks is bald, and therefore functionally dead, so there's no moral dilemma.
>>741235790>off topic thread on /v/>is one of the best threads on /v/Fixed that for you
>>741231043It's not that tho,anon >>741217721 effectively participated in a trolley related problem anywayAnd who knows if he even got the right person? Maybe the true leader is out there and just killed the middleman who was forced to tie people to save his own life.You could have negotiated with him, reformed it, or interrogated him to know who provided him with trolleys and peoples.
>>741235120>russianThen he was summarily executed anyway.
>>741235790>bharat tries to make it about himselfPathetic
>>741236457>best threads on the boards are threads that have nothing to do with the boardSo it goes....
>>741236480Must save the last unicorn.Sry Trump.
>>741236480>Internet ExplorerYeah, that one. Fuck the unicorn and them kids, I dont care
I wouldn’t have pulled any levers. I would’ve listened and toasts exactly what no one did.
>>741215024The good die young. They are eaten
>>741234034What color is the flesh?
>>741236457>Pull the lever and the trolley runs over everyone on this off topic thread>Don't pull the lever and the trolley runs over everyone in an "on-topic" xitter idpol ragebait threadHard choices.
>>741230848Being worn down by existence itself is no excuse for being an asshole, anon
>>741235790The 5th post is Indian hate. This whole sites hates indians because they have flooded the Internet and spam calls. Fuck them and their shit hole country.
>>741236558FULL SPEED AHEAD BLYAT
>>741235660>multiple worldsthe only correct choice
>>741236943>pull the lever: ban all jeetposters of any kind>dont pull the lever: non-blue boards and any and all gooner threads are banned from the entire site, for all time
>>741237270I piss on the pissard
>>741234103It actually doesn't take much to derail a train, just get yourself stuck under the wheels and it should fall off the tracks.
>>741216441Is it breeding age females? I would be tempted to pull it if so. Just have to put a dent in replacement rate, they die in droves every day as it is.
>>741213710Statistically most of the 16mil are Indians, Africans, and libtards. I pull the lever
>>741237270Wait, what? This is not clearly worded.
>no you must kill>killing is the only option kill kill!>but not killing means kill!>KIIIIIIIIIIIIILL>I NEED YOU TO PICK THE KILL OPTION PLEASE MY SANITY DEPENDS ON IT
>>741213710sorry guys, I'm not letting myself end up on the tracks
>>741237689If the people tied down there were further than the 10ish meters from the bridge as it appears, then maybe that'd help. As it is, the trolley has just barely jumped the track, it'd just crush everyone regardless and you'd die for no reason.
>>741237270Lift the three cups and try out all the keys, fuck the wizard.If he impedes me in any way, then he's the one stuck with the problem.
>>741237270>by the time the wizard is done explaining his riddle, the trolley have already crossed and killed 5 people
>>741238603He stopped the train until he was finished talking. You have 5 minutes to decide.
>>741237270Well this is the donkey behind the door issue.The mathematically correct choice is to switch. But at the end of the day it doesn't matter
>>741213956If the entire excersise is actually physical, then wouldn’t he run out of people to run over and to pull the lever?
>>741238095This webm is close to 10 years old
>>741220810>If you kill the trolley-problem man, the number of trolley-problem men in the world remains exactly the same
>>741235120>Europe is still a thing because three guys at Chernobyl had the balls to wade through waist high radioactive water in pitch blackness to open drainage valves to prevent a second steam explosion that would have made the entire continent uninhabitable for hundreds of thousands of years
I sacrifice /v/
>>741239682I pull the lever instantly.I don't care about being "unfair" if I can save most people for having killed a few that would be dead anyways.
>>741213710I'm killing the people on top, what the hell?All it takes is one mentally ill individual when the entirety of humanity is on the track and we're all doomed, I'm ending that shit while we still can afford to.
>>741239510By that logic, who know how many will die while you track down the (current?) trolley-man?Systematically pulling the lever to kill one guy might save more lives than searching if there's more than one trolley-man.
>>741240096I stop the trolley and then point and laugh like a psycho as the dumb corpos are losing profits.
>>741213710Can I double it, then kill the people on the top track? I'm going for a high score.
>>741238806Who said it has to be an intelligent animal or living creature. A bacteria can make the choice.
>>741240472>Who said it has to be an intelligent animalThe problem itself, retard.>or double it and give it to the next person?This is the part where you go full vegan and claim tadpoles are as much of a person as humans or whatever.
>>741239141the good ol' days
>>741224821they are subhumans, a single African can literally beat a hundred panjeets in hand to hand combat
>>741224821>>741240802India would win WW3, not because they are skilled, I myself could kill thousands of indians with my bare hands, but because there are so fucking many of them that you can kill quadrillions and it wouldn't even put a dent into their ever replenishing numbers. It would be like a horde of endlessly respawning enemies and they will slowly crush the rest of the world under their great numbers and poison people to death with their shit, trash, factory waste chemicals and "street food", turning earth into literal hell where only indians can survive.
>>741235790i miss when off topic threads either devolved into porn or itou junji dumps
You should be able to solve this.
>>741241025Most of them are not fighting for their country and are leaving immediately if a strike hits them. The average Indian would need years of training to handle a firearm probably and that's if they don't shoot themselves or each other by mistake.
>>741237270Sex with wizard, watch people die
You're tied to the tracks and a trolley is coming rapidly towards you. It will hit in about 80 years or so.>Don't pull the lever:Nothing changes.>Pull the lever (as many times as you want):Someone appears on the tracks 80 years or so away from the trolley (and they will choose whether to pull the lever as well)
>>741241162They don't need firearms. They can just melee rush and even if each soldier takes out thousands, they will still eventually overwhelm and bury the enemies under their numbers.
>>741241252I tie a rope to the lever and tie it to the ground so it cannot switch back.Then leave.
>>741213710If there's a trolley about to run over 16 million people then whatever's going on is out of my wheelhouse, fuck it I ain't dealing with this shit.
>>741241105C3
>>741241424Correct. Well done.
>>741241267There are modern day weapons that turn people to dust in milliseconds. War is no longer a numbers game.
>>741241252I cannot imagine sisyphus happy, as I am a 5
>>741241616>10000 men fire weapons of mass destruction>Kill 100000 indians in each blast>1000000000 indians killed>Still didn't even put a dent into their numbers>1000000000 indians regenerate in 10 seconds>Swarm your country and slowly kill you with poop, trash and bad street food
>>741241616>War is no longer a numbers gamespoken like a true retard
>>741241858This regeneration idea is child tier thought>>741242398American has an army of drones you fucking retard. We can kill millions of people without ever getting up from the couch. We literally use Xbox controllers to destroy entire towns in countries.
>>741242532>plug in a spark gap generator>watch as fifth gen warfare command and control infrastructure falls apart:)
>>741213710Why does the trolley crave blood, will he ever be satiated, and how did he get enough political sway to enact his sick twisted games?
>>741242532There is a nearly infinite amount of indians and they all keep raping each other nonstop, making infinite rape babies.
>>741242607>Indians >Doing anything but shitting in the streetYea no.>>741242670Ok but they're babies. They can't do anything and are weak human shields.
>>741242774>Ok but they're babies. They can't do anything and are weak human shields.Well because they keep making babies nonstop, the babies will also keep growing up into adults nonstop so you will always have sextillions of new indian adults every split nanosecond.
>>741242532>American has an army of drones you fucking retard. We can kill millions of people without ever getting up from the couch. We literally use Xbox controllers to destroy entire towns in countries.i'm gonna spell it slowly so even a retard like you can understand itY O U H A V E M O R E T A R G E T S T H A N D R O N E S>inb4 america can build more dronesW I T H W H A T E C O N O M Y ? O N E T H A T ' S F O C U S E D O N S P E N D I N G T R I L L I O N S O N A I ?
>>741213710Just pull it immediately and be done with it
>>741242907We already have enough plus nukes. You're a dipshit.>>741242885We're bombing everything. These babies won't have time to grow and women will be killed. Both of you are retarded.
>>741242927This really is the only right answer. Especially because you could wind up on the tracks. You're lucky you even get a chance to pick. You have to take it or you're killing yourself.
>>741213776Haha faggot my based boomer parents gave me a living inheritance! Their only condition is that i don't put them in a home, which is will honor.
>>741229723They did change the world though, just not for the better.
>>741243294Yeah honestly I don't believe that 24 people would pass their turn to another person in the first place, realistically somebody would just pull the lever within the first 10 turns because otherwise everybody dies and the longer you wait the bigger the casualties
>>741243237>Bomb 100000000000000000000000000 jeets>Run of of drones and bombs>Still only killed 0,0000000000000000000000001% of the jeets>All killed jeets instantly regenerate within an attosecond>Jeets counterattack by flooding in your street and shitting everywhere until you all die of shit poisoning.
>>741243449Yea it's a dumb one because they're just memeing on the double it tiktok trend. I did the math and the first number of ppl was 699051 people. It sucks that you were chosen first and those deaths are on your hands but you're now responsible for more if you pass it along.
>>741213710Keep doubling until there's so many people the trolley can't get through them all
>>741243709Yup it's just like you say, the faster it ends the better for everyone, the whole situation needs to be explained better anyway, like is this entire thing televised? Does everybody know what's going on? If it's all anonymous then fuck it and pull the lever, if everybody knows then pull the fucking lever anyway because your action would be 100% justified and I don't think the world would hate you for it
>>741243709>I did the math and the first number of ppl was 699051 peopleanon, you might be retarded
>>741243237>We already have enough plus nukes. You're a dipshit.cute, now we're switching from drones to nukesin the end it was a numbers game
>>741213710>16 millionchild’s play.call me when it’s 100 million.exciting, don’t you think?
>>741215024Prosperity breeds selfishness. It seems contradictory but if you aren't hurting for resources you never have any need to work with other people or engage in pro-social behavior. If you're greedy no one "loses" until resources stop being infinite, then you got yours and everyone else is fucked.
>>741244136What's the number then?
>>741244031Some retards probably would be mad but you can't worry about that. All of these trolley problems are dumb and only work in a vacuum where you can't just whip out your cell phone and call someone to stop the trolley from their computer.
>>741215024We used to die before we hit 40, more or less. The very fact that we defy this law of nature on the regular now is a testament to the arrogance of man. Also, racism
>>741244521216777216 is just 2^24
Here's some OC, /v/.
>>741229340What would this look like on the ground level? Barring of course inevitable blindness, deafness, internal rupturing of organs, cooking of the body inside and out, and instant death that would come from being in visual range?
>>741215024Ingesting lead and not understanding just how different life has become for kids and young adults compared to the opportunities they had, plus they are constantly being psyopped by information sources they were taught to trust in a time when those sources actually were trustworthy. It's a perfect storm.
>>741215024It's majorly just American boomers, in other countries this psychotic egotistical behavior is far less common.
>>741215240And some boomers won't let god do all the work
>>741244736It's one actually
>>741242907Hey fuckface, crippling most countries is very easy. I don't know if you know this, but war is about logistics and supply lines. You can bomb out >ports>common trade route hotspots>the power grid of their population centersIndia is particularly fucked, as most of its neighbors hate it. Pakistan and China alone would shutout like 50% of its borders. Moreover, they have an alarmingly high dependence on not just regular gas, but propane as well. India is a barely functioning shitpile on a good day (modi is very much a tinpot nutbag), it doesn't take much for it to implode.>>741244635The reason the average lifespan was so short was because infant mortality was factored in, you fucking retard niggerfaggot
>>741213710Not worth it. I'd wait till it could kill everyone on the planet, just to get some peace and quiet
>>741213710I'll pull when the number reaches a cool billion
>>741245056ah yeah, i'm retarded too
>>741235660I do a kickflip.
>>741245121It's ok man. We're retarded together. The most retarded guy tho is the dip shit who didn't pull the lever the first time. It's one guy.
>>741215646With what? A train-killing bullet? Fucking retard.
>>741241252At this point, it's your job to convince the people that they have to die to escape the Sisyphean prison. You have to keep pulling the lever to save them until they have consented you to no longer do so.
>>741216163>>741216709>Why contain it?
>>741241105Is this a problem where the supposed information is all worthless and you can just visually know the answer but counting "squares" from the "start points" of the X/Y axis and choosing the one that is "equal" i.e. C3?
>>741214090>>741223993
>>741244896Europe is worse because their aging demographic rely more on welfare that the younger labor force can no longer provide or replenish due to a population crisis. They're actually reaching a breaking point faster than the US simply because they provide so much social services for retirees. The baby boomers make up a huge part of their labor force and they are slowly retiring out of it en masse.
>>741220883I'd imagine he is
>>741220810There must always be a Trolley Problem.
>>741245041Don't pull it around 20~ chance they tank the trolley
>>741245095>I don't know if you know this, but war is about logistics and supply lines.Of course i know about this, it's the main reason I pointed out that >War is no longer a numbers game is a utterly retarded statementmy point has never been if the states can take the jeets or not, my point has been that war always has been and will always be a numbers game
>>741235120you think this only happened ONCE?
>>741213710The first person could have sacrificed one person and just lived with the guilt>Started a chain reaction >Now almost 17,000,000 people will die If anything, if I was the first person that would magnify the weight 50-fold for me. Knowing you could have had one person die VS millions, but like others have said, there are people that genuinely could kill a random person and be fine with it the next day.
>>741239682what is this allegory for?
it takes 33 people without the sense of responsibility to potentially wipe the human race
>>741229436>generic calls for "change"I do not believe for a second that any change they would champion would result in a better situation for the young. The old refuse to vote against their own comfort, no matter how small the concession.
>>741240096I stop the trolley and then once most of the established companies have been liquidated enough, I start the trolley again. This is the boom-bust cycle of trolleys.
>>741246749Atrocity propaganda. There has to come a point where it should no longer influence the decisions you make as a nation.
>>741235465>the point of the trolley problem is to save as much people as possibleThe philosopher is not actually a philosopher, she's a demagogue. There is no answer to the trolley problem at all. It's a murder-hypothetical.
>>741246820>The old refuse to vote against their own comfortOld democrats do this all the time, and then blame "maga" for it.
>>741213776Holy based
>>741246749Communism. Remember, the utopia is only one bullet away Comrade. Those who are already in the shallow grave would want it.
>>741246749Anti-natalism. No one could be truly harmed by making everyone on earth sterile.
>>741213710let me make it easier for everyone
>>741213710That's not even like 1% of the population of India, literally rookie numbers, gotta pump that shit.Double it.
>>741235465>smart bombs with facial recognition to create false data to make you look like a terroristIs this why they're investing so much into AI to make better false evidence to justify killing/imprisoning half the population?
>>741248349DON'T YOU KNOWPUMP IT UP
>>741213710I'd pull it.So no one else will have to experience it.Because if they pull it they will feel forever guilty. And if they don't pull it they will worry about wether the next decision of the person and its consequences.No one deserves to experience that distress.So I will bear that sin whole and pull it, ending the cycle.
>>741248947YOU GOTTAPUMP IT UP
>>741226862its not.china fakes its population at the regional level because reporting you have more people means you get more money allocated to your region by the national government.once people started scamming like this everyone had to scam to try and keep up.China's actual population is estimated to be more like 700 million, based on salt consumption.
>>741246749Forgiving college debt and making college 100% free first came to my mind. Everyone who already paid off their student loans feels it's unfair that irresponsible retards get a free pass for their retardation.My sister went to a private school for an art degree and had to retake several classes she failed. My parents helped her pay for school because she didn't want to work.Since my parents wasted money on my sister, I had to pay for my own college. I went to community college first and finished my bachelors online at the cheapest school, while working full time.My sister got a decent paying job right out of school because of DEI. Then easily job hopped for better pay also because of DEI. She quit working all together since COVID and moved back in with the parents.I had to suffer years of working at the same job even after graduating because employers expected years and years of experience for entry level jobs.She's still owes over $60k in student loans and more in credit card debt. I've been debt free the entire time. It's obvious why she keeps voting for the side that promises to make things free.
>>741233703>Send trolly left to kill the fat tranny nigger>free my loved ones>start beating the jeets to death with my bare hands and don't stop until either another trolly comes along I can use to kill them in one go or until I've beaten all 1.48 billion pajeets to death. EZ
my favorite
>>741246749griffith
>>741213776The entire human race is gonna die in 9 more passes bro.
>>741235120I'd go back in time and show him the future.
>>741246749muh dream
>Have you going to slaughter 5 thousand of Balmamusa citizens to blame it on Galgastani for the cause of your resistance?(Covering will going to be a failure and a lot of people will know that you did it)>Or you trying to stop it?(While completely fail to do so, and going to be successfully framed as the one who did it by your former liege.) No, seriously, why both routes go soo shitty for Denam in OT no matter what you choose.
>>741215240I've seen a 50/50 split between my boomer relatives genuinely turning around and saying "holy shit, this is fucked. We need to help our kids ." and "See ya later, alligater!" The latter I have a bemused respect for with their sheer callous energy.
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>>741236558what strikes me about this meme is that the "ukranians" did not use weapons fire.its something dug with shovels.some retarded russian ordered a trench dug here to deny the Ukrainians the ability to use the tracks to advance further into russian territorythose are just all russians in that picture.
>>741246749Probably "ends justify the means" type of sunk cost fallacy in general. For video game examples I can think of Tokugawa in Nioh and I think Kageaki in Muramasa says something akin to that at least once.
>>741244752>Just walk away and there will be an end to the horror
>>741250845Send the Theseus to the box and the pillow. Send the tank of rats to the guy who will call me a bitch for saving him. Send the vulcans to the time traveler. Send the man in the room (who will be saved) to the pedophile. Pull optional switch 1, 2 & 3.
>>741245598Unironically, gemini was able to solve it.
>No one's posted it yethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy18DfjQ8po&t=1sTell me /v/Which brand of infinite suffering do you prefer.
>>741213710>implying i would feel bad about ending the cycle of madnessI wouldn't.
>>741250845>final trolley problemSo what's the final solution?
>>741251438>Begiiiiin agaaiiinn.......
>>741250845tl;dr>>741251545My solution is to sleep.
>>741251316but he's not Chinese-speaking
>>741228590>polish lever>it's so slippery that no one can grab it
>>741213710I kill every single retard ITT who doubled it
>>741251858Everyone who doubled it before you has already lived happy, fulfilling lives and died of old age before you were even given the choice to do anything.
>>741213905india needs to be wiped off the map
>>741251783Even if he isn't saved, that doesn't change my equation at all.
>>741251987Bodies on top and bottom track lines should be switched.
>>741227341Holy kek
>there is no lever>you can just watch people die
>>741213905the even scarier fact is that the top two countries are lying about those numbersindia is reporting less than the actual numberchina is reporting more than the actual number
>>741227352The original 52 (sovl)>>741227852nu52 (soulless)
>>741249457wow
>>741251438infinite finite suffering seems more merciful than finite infinite suffering wait that doesn't indicate which one I'm talking about
>>741233643More like "goyim choosing their political representatives.webm"
>>741246212A little less than 24% Not bad. But keep in mind that if you lose the gamble, you still kill 5 people, as opposed to 1. Is 24% over 15% really worth risking 4 more lives?
>>741246212At 75% chance to tank the first one has a good chance to derail the trolley and the rest are safe.
I'm sure Indians would much prefer mocked them with "Thank you come again!" Well Hari Kondabolu got his monkey's paw. We no longer compare Indians to Apu
>>741230638Wow lol
>>741236975It kind of is, actually.
>>741241105Oh this was fun to puzzle out, C3. I like ones like this
>>741233528Based
>>741214223limbus company
>>741235120reminder that the USA has almost accidentally detonated nukes on US soil more than four times and only didn't because 1 of 4 safeguard switches didn't break or decay
>>741217721by killing him you see you became just like him and with a little leap in logic now you are the one putting people on tracks
>>741241105D4, C3 is the pajeet answer
>>741255323not if I kill myself after killing him
>>741231452>and an anime body pillow.Looks like India gets to stink up the place just a bit longer. *cracks knuckles*
>>741232728that train can kill a pile with 16 thousand people tied together, you think a fat man will stop?
>>741213710I don't understand the intent. Am I doubling it hoping more people will die or I am doing it hoping everyone else will do the same and no one dies
>>741213710ok, but will it reach a moment where the whole civilization is tied up and there is no way to give it to the next person?
>>741215024They grew up when the post-WW2 psyops were at their strongest and people had the least resistance to them. They are peak goy.
>>741213710>doing some meme math>the original person only had to kill a single dude
>>741233605LLLLAAaAAawWWww
I'm the next person and I say kill 'em all
>>741213710>by the 33 person the amount of victims surpasses the world population>it will eventually keep going until some psychopath has to choose and picks human extinctionThe only right answer is to switch early on. 16 millions is a good breakpoint for this dilema. On one hand you have the highest kill count for a single person on the other you're saving at least as many people.
>>741257252>On one hand you have the highest kill count for a single personFinally, someone mathematically worse than Hitler.
