TAM JEST
>>741234603hard to tell but this looks a little similar to the greatest game ever made
TWOJE KUGLARSKIE SZTUCZKI NA NIC CI SIĘ NIE PRZYDADZĄ
>>741234603watch them genderbent the seekers into HOT BUSTY BITCHES for the gothic 2 remake... wokesters I swear...
>>741234603This will do, how do you guys think mage spells should be reworked in the remake? Currently it sucks ass.
which bow does hänno give you
>>741235182custom he asks you for wood pieces and depending on what you give him you get a bow, stats around 30
BUmp
What are the chances that the G2 remake will have more colour than this one? Does UE even allow for such things?
Boo
>its another dialogue animation locks the whole game
>>741236286I bet the sleeper did this.
>>741236286
FUCKING FIX THE HORRIBLE HDR LIGHTING BULLSHIT AND INDOOR LIGHTING MANSHITS SO DARK
Adanos solos Beliar and gaynnos
>>741236493The new camp could look really beautiful but UE is the fucking bane of all lighting
Get an OLED, disable built in HDR, enable Nvidia RTX HDR
>>741235057i think they shouldnt... all the magic changes in 1 made it lame. getting magic early, your early spells let you move. wtf is this. early mage should be suffering.
>>741236693Now they're suffering chapter3+
Retard strength wins again, when will magic cucks learn?
>>741236693true in a weird twist of fate early game mage is the best part of it but once Firebolt can only tickle your enemies the spells you get are boring or just suck.Most of them don't let you move and take ages to charge, not even Rain of Fire is as strong as it should be. Mage is just not fun.
>>741236678That is a retarded way to do it. What you should do is hijack the ingame HDR with things like renodx so it can be calibrated correctly. RTX HDR is just an inverse tonemapper.
Setting Lore:Innos creates WorldInnos splits himself into Beliar and Adanos.Beliar creates Death.Innos in turn gifts Fireball spell to humans(all of them)Adanos gives them the Healing spell.Some millions of years later humans are retarded and split into Fire and Water mages, Innos takes away magic from most people and leaves it to just "priests"
>>741236976Nuh uh RTX HDR is AI and knows the best color settings for every pixel
>>741237180what is this chatGPT ass post innos didn't fucking split himself
>>741237180>Innos in turn gifts Fireball spell to humans(all of them)Innos gives MAGIC to everyone. ALL magic.
>>741237261No he cuts off his dick and foreskin, and from it come Beliar and Adanos
>>741237261Yes, he did.>Of the beginning of time: There was no night and no day, and no living thing moved across the land. Then Innos appeared and his light shone upon the world. And Innos gave unto the world the gift of life. But no creature could live in the light of Innos, so he created the sun. But still the light was too bright. So Innos divided himself and thus created Beliar. Beliar created the night. Now man could be. So Innos divided himself again and created Adanos. Adanos brought man versatility, knowledge, curiosity and courage. Innos was satisfied with what he had done.
>>741237358Is this Greek mythology?
>>741237514There's no barn animals raping women so no.
>>741236678I upgraded from a 3060 ti to a 9070tx just to play this at 1440p. I got the 9070tx for $620. The lowest 5070 ti was fucking $880
>>741237514No it's the american one
>>741236353>Not using interaction cancel modSuffer at will.
>>741237774I tried that once and it crashed my game before it could start
Oh, no, I don't know what happened. Some bastard killed my best friend Bullit.What kind of monster could do such a thing?
>>741237932What do you mean killed? He fell on his own sword 22 times, Bullit really needed to watch his drinking.
>>741237846Because you're probably too retarded to read 3 sentences of installation instructions. The mod works fine.
>>741238120Possibly, I have half a dozen mods installed with no issue and did the same with that one, might try again some time.
is lares unkillable? i have silas axe and 66 str and he takes no dmg
You know, all this lockpicking discourse made me realize something. I don’t think I’ve ever actually liked lockpicking in a Gothic game.Yeah, the lockpicking in this game can suck, but I don’t think the original system was much better either. It was basically: left, left, damn, again. Left, right, left, damn, lockpick broke. Left, right, left, left, damn, lockpick broke again. Great, now I’m out of lockpicks. Time to reload.This time around, it’s at least way more visually appealing, but I can’t say I like it much either.And honestly, I think the original devs knew this too, because they pretty much got rid of the lockpicking minigame altogether in G3. Which is also what I’ll be doing on my second playthrough, with a mod.
>>741238474Very likely though it may be possible to kill him later when the story doesn't need him anymore
>>741238616All lockpicking games are boring at best and trash at worst.
>>741238616original is better, this one just forces everyone to look up solutions online, no im not doing 90 combinations in a row to open a fucking door than in original gothic would take like 5 min of try and error
>Entering Swamp Camp post-chapter 2.>Suddenly realize that since Baal Namib fucked off with Cor Kalom, his big ass tree house is actually unoccupied.>And since there are no npcs that look into it or pass in front of it, it's actually completely up for grabs, no one wakes you up sleeping in it.>And unlike the other free for use huts and bedrolls anons have been talking about in the Swamp Camp, this has a chest to store things in (once you unlock it).Holy fuck home acquired.
>>741238734A little too exposed for my liking but it is nice. Does Baal Liquor have a hut?
>>741238616>This time around, it’s at least way more visually appealingTo me that's a negative.You're trying to open a lock, what exactly are you supposed to see? Using audio clues is the superior method.
>>741238846No idea, I only ever saw him inside the temple.Also, the trunk house makes you feel like Yoda, but as you said, it does feel a bit exposed.
As expected they fucked up the remake these ignorant spics who had no idea what Gothic was about.
>>741239279no they didn't you just can't run it
>>741239279Glad Pajeets aren't able to play the GOTYAY rpg. Go eat cow shit.
SPANISH GODS
>>741238731Also, it gets worse when you have to do the lockpicking minigame under the time pressure. Now that's some bullshit.
why my guy ride the horse like that????
>>741236493>ITS SO DARK>take out torch>its no longer darkWHO WOULDA THUNK
Getting to 50 str and having a good 40+weapon is fucking tediously hard, once you have it tho you are unstoppable, it snowballs hard
>>741239951That's PB for you. It always becomes a power fantasy, unless you gimp yourself purposely to maintain the challenge.
>>741239925this is gopnik squatting
>if you join old camp you feel like a cuk cause everyone bullies you>if you join new camp you feel like a bitch cause everyones an asshole and its worse than old camp>if you join swamp camp you're a faggot stonerI almost wish you didn't have to pick a camp.
I wish they didn't ruin Xardas.
>>741239951Just blacksmith Warrior's Verdict or Skullcleaver
>>741239935>its no longer darkBullshit, there a piss stream of light maybe a meter around you and everything else is dark. Even torches in buildings don't properly illuminate the wall they are stuck to.
>>741239951I've always loved the power progression in Gothic games. You always feel like a little shit at first and even a dry fart will kill you, but eventually you snowball so hard you become a literal god. It is so satisfying once you hit that level of power where you just know you can go back for revenge.
>>741238734There's a comfy hut with a free bed right from the start just behind that very same tree, it's the one in the middle of 3 huts.Swamp Camp has the most free sleeping spots of all camps
>>741240040>you feel like a bitchStop being bitch-made then or go and play Skyrim were you are the chosen one.
>>741240040Eh, by the time you join the Old Camp, you are strong enough to stand up to bullies.
>>741240013Now im beating up MERCS IN MEDIUM ARMOR in 3 hits with silas axe and 66str(tho i stole sword of fear from castle cellar) yes i lookeed up online how to solve that door, i have 1 lvl in lockpicking so i felt like i deserved it, i could also just do the lock for 40min but that is tedious and bullshit
>>741240170>has the most free sleeping spots of all campsYeah but good fucking luck finding them in the middle of the night.
>>741240076Wdym?
>>741240040those are all labels you gave yourself lmaoalso swamp camp rules
>>741234603LEGIA TO STARA KURWA
>>741240312nta but I heard the eng dub has him saying marvel quips lol
>>741240280but it's also the most compact one, the other camps are spread too far and wide; after 10 hours I pretty much memorized the whole layout and can navigate around the camp pretty easily>night timeI like using torches unironically
>>741240339>worst armor>worst camp>worst npcs>worst part of the mapthe only thing that rules about swamp camp is eventualy you don't have to go to that shit ass place anymore
>>741237774>>Not using interaction cancel modThe what now
>Start a new run>Decide to go melee chad>Skip most skills and stat gain LP drains, instead use the knowledge from the previous run to collect crazy loot ch1>KO Thorus at the barracks and get his sword>Just barely get the 75 STR required to wield it>Melee loop: Wind of fist larger enemies prone, swing my untrained 2hander and either one shot or nuke 80% of their health awayMan I can't wait to get combos and parries and really start to pop off. I thought dex fagging with Scar's crossbow was strong, this is just way better. Gonna do mage last.
crazy that Germans made a whole game series for the Polishtrue love
>>741240423I don't mind torches but I wish they wouldn't work like they were paid minimum wage
>>741240456you can KO him without repurcussions?!
Did they fix the controls? I know part of the experience was dealing with insufferably retarded controls but im too old for that now.
>>741240443get a load of this wokie
>>741240490It is amusing that Gothic is literally the only piece of media that makes Germans, Poles and Russians get along.
>>741240517Yeah even the old game wasn't that generous, fuck with someone like Thorus and most the camp aggroes you and doesn't stop just cause you ran to the bridge
>>741240040This was life in Poland in 90s. You either join army or hooligan gang, become priest, or go to drugs. Gothic 1 is largely seen as a great allegory of life in Polish 90s
is it playable on dual sense? gonna play this after i finish death stranding 2
>>741240450The one where if you press F to talk/get on ladder/ open chest, you may press F again to cancel the action instead of having to slog through End/Close/Get off. I hate UE game slop like that that removes control from the player. https://www.nexusmods.com/gothic1remake/mods/230
>>741240517You can KO anyone in Gothic at any point without any long lasting consequences. The area and NPC might be hostile for a while, but just run away and they'll relax. If they're still mad, sleep. If they're STILL mad, put your items in a chest and let them KO you. Now enjoy your imba gear.20+ years old trick.
>the characteristic Old Camp letimotif is slowed down version of "Herr Manneling".It took me 25 years to figure this one out.
>>741240771I looted that Baal's hut that does armor and is at the entrance with Lester, when i asked him about armor he said "come back when you've meditated on your actions"
>>741240518There's a fixed camera mod that may trick you into thinking it has the tank controls of the classic game, but no, this is how UE engine games handle player movement. Zoomers here will say at least you get a mount, as if it's anywhere near SANIC speeds the speed potions in the original that also worked indoors.
>>741240889And meditating on your actions might be a simile for... You figure out the rest, zoomie.
So goal of the game is to stop that sleeper guy from being woke?
>>741240889You can KO anyone to gain their respect and reset them to their normal dialogue state, stupid none exploring dumb zoomie. You retards would still be missing out on half the mechanics if vets weren't spoonfeeding you. QUICKSAVE AND EXPERIMENT.
>>741241116The right wing druggie nazi chuds wants to revive spider Trump so he can kill every minority and mind control everyone to worship him
>>741241116It's actually to break the barrier so that Khorinis has enough ore and manpower to fight the tri-dragon threat that arrives in the sequal, but that all kicks off in G2. If you pay attention, you'll see Krushak never had the necessary conditions ready to emerge into the world.
>>741234603>go to the orc city>female shamanWhat??? I thought there weren't any female orcs? Isn't this pretty lore breaking?
>>741241321>never had the necessary conditions ready to emerge into the world.Like what?
The loading screen art is real good
>>741241330Unless the orcs procreate via mitosis, I am pretty sure female orcs exist.
>>741241330do you think this is warhammer?
>>741241330>weren't any female orcs?That's Warhammer lore you daft cunt
Gothic 2 remake when?
>>741241748can't come soon enough. hope they skip NOTR tho. that shit can go to hell.
>>741241748Hopefully a year or two
>>741241587wait there are more loading screens than old camp screen? or those are story ones when you load from main menu?
>>741241440The splintering of the brotherhood made the final sacrifice too weak (hence the reason he didn't already emerge to rape the world once the crazed weedsmokers ran in), also the 5 orc shaman were massacred which were necessary to finish the incantation. Sleeper was never going to able to emerge in it's full menace, but still had to be finished off incase a powerful knowledgable mage like Xardas got ideas.
>>741241835story ones. there's a lot of them. like a LOT.
>>741241806Plebe taste, Jharkendar is comfy kino
>>741241806nah we getting NoTR and it's gonna be BIGGER
>>741241748Given most assets are already complete and they have a complete blueprint to follow, hopefully I am installing it 3 years from now.
>>741241835They change according to your actions in the game and as chapters go by.
>>741241927I want every one of the great houses to be a 2 hour dungeon
>1h and 2h mastery>parry anything that looks at you funnyI am become swordman, destroyer of worlds.
>need 60 LP to master 2h..maybe magic isn't so bad
>>741240312Characterization is ruined. OG's Xardas is a professional, curmudgeon and not very social. He's the type of person you might know that runs circles around his peers, tells them they're morons then goes back to doing his stuff alone. You can hear it in his dialogue, no matter the language. New Xardas kind of meanders, sometimes quips, doesn't feel like any kind of person at all.Also his Polish voice actor's voice direction is way off. He's too loud, enunciates way too slowly. I understand he's 80 so his voice is way more raspy, but the rest is not excused.
>>741241886>random aztec shit and cringe piratesno thanks
>>74124244970
Where are the +hp/mana elixir recipes for alchemy?
>>74124244970 actually. tier 2 is 40
>>741242541In Xardas tower
>>741242564>>741242539Oh I'm so fucking cooked
sovl
>finally get to cronos so I can get some mana points>buy the +30 mana ringI am now basically the strongest guy in the game, firebolt can carry me until chapter 3 when I can actually become a fire mage.
>>741242627The map of Khorinis is the most colourful thing in the game
>>741242464pirate beach is most kino location in serieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxEZJVH5-_s
I killed Bullit. Some digger woke up during the ambush and came out of his hut, saw what was going on, and went back to bed. He knows to mind his own business.
>>741239279That's what I thought when I played the demo years ago, but the devs must have been sentenced to several months of eurojank Gothic re-education camp because this is very much a decent Gothic game.
>>741242651>become a fire mage.lol
>>741242464>cringe faggot https://youtu.be/uLaTUgsx7EE
>>741242651>I can actually become a fire mage.Too bad that is where the fun stops
>>741241668>>741241739>>741241741Well, I don't remember a single female orc in the entirety of Gothic 1, 2 or 3 so this is still weird. At least I have the option of just killing the entire city so I don't have to engage with their weird burial rituals.
anyone have any good graphic options?I just started to play but its heavy on my eyes
>>741242756I always get sad when I leave Jharkendar cause I know I will miss the music.
>>741238731>this one just forces everyone to look up solutions onlineIt's a puzzle, faggot. Just because you need a guide doesn't mean everyone does. Do you also look up guides for everything else in the game to optimize your minmax garbage? Where to get the best sword at level 1? Best free armor?Go back to YouTube bitch
>>741242457>go into the tower>expecting him to scream at me for disturbing his studies>says something sarcastic instead You have no idea how mad this makes me. And I'm glad they got the original polish va back for him, but his tone of voice is off. Doesn't feel intimidating anymore. Might be due to age but I'm sure they could mix it differently to mitigate that a bit.
>>741242756Where's my rum, bitch.
>>741234603Just started, question. WHAT IS MUD'S DAMAGE?!
>>741234603What smoking too much weed does to a mfer
>>741242748What's wrong with that?>b-but it's le weak!!!So what?
>>741243445you're a bitch ass pussy firebitch of a twink god that got his ass pounded by goblins lmaolol
I doubt a potential Gothic 2 remake would have save carry over to make holding on to the land deed have any sense, would it?
>>741243445nta but the big problem is now you can join the fire mages and water mages at the same point in time. Except they didn't adjust the robes for that so the water mage robes are a lot better when they should be equal. In the og the water mage robes were better since you could only join the water mages later.
>>741243550no
Can you sell Cipher 50 swamp weed for 300 ore and another 50 later again? Or it's one time only transaction where you sell him 50 weed for 300 ore or 100 weed for 600 ore?
>>741243550No gear or stats would carry over but would be nice to get more text or quests from people you meet (Lee, The Gang, Lares, etc)
>>741234603remake would have been a billion times better if they had just reused the same voice lines from the original. i fucking hate the new voices, especially the protagonists and diego's, both of which i remembered very well
Heros don't use hammers, or axes, or clubs for that matter. Only swords, perhaps a bow on rare occasions. Anything else marks you as little more than a common thug piece of shit.
>>741243687I did it two times, i came back for another shipment of weed from that guy that asks to kill bloodflies.
>>741243664>>741243697Figures.Would be awesome if Alkimia added decision carry over and you could hold on to it and get a much bigger reward from not trading it away.
>>741243787>that guy that asks to kill bloodfliesI killed him and now I'm fucked. He kept saying >check your optics, chud!but I killed damn near every blood fly in the fucking swamp, certainly every one within 20 paces of his hut
>>741243959There's a lot of them, top of my head at least 15 with the ones on the beach
>>741234603Fuck these guys
>>741243550Didn't the dragon fuck up the fortress anyway? It's not like Lester actually made use of the deed.
>>741240040*blows swamp smoke in your face* deal with it
>>741243253very low, you are supposed to beat the piss out of him day 1 to stop him from annoying the shit out of you
>>741243959Nah, you are clearly missing stuff. Basically you have to clear the beach, the two islands connected to the camp tower and the area right (when coming from the camp) of the tower.
>>741243959Yeah, the 20 paces thing is bullshit, it's more like 100-200 paces. I went back to him atleast 5 times thinking I'm finally done until I basically cleared the entire area south of the swamp camp.
>>741244319>Yeah, the 20 paces thing is bullshit, it's more like 100-200 paces. Tbqh he probably measure those paces while high as a kite
>>741243959you have to kill the group of 3 on the beach to the left of the collection area (left facing the area), as well as the group of three to the right, and the group of 5 that is in 'front' of the area, on the right hand side of the bridge walkways you used to get there. right hand side whilst facing the collection areawatch out for the swamp shark that hangs around the second group to the right. it can and WILL aggro you if you just charge in there
>swampshark gets aggro from somewhere and eats 4 fucking bloodfliesMY FUCKING EXPERIENCE
You're telling me those pampered fire mages regularly climbed this shit to get to their shrine?
>>741244475id frankly throw treats to that swamp shark for being such a helpful beast because FUCK BLOODFLIES, if it didnt break shit by doing soalso>find out about minecrawlers>everyone i meet tells me about how the swamp camp templars have been hunting them>in the mine they give warnings over and over DO NOT go into the side tunnels so you know minecrawlers are a huge threat>one NPC explicitly says if one starts to chase you, run to a templar and theyll kill it>pull a minecrawler out of a tunnel to a pair of templars just to see what happens>they do in fact attack it, and get absolutely fucking mogged by the thing effortlesslythey really gassed up those templars but the templars aint shit
>>741244614That's Alkimia fucking something up. In the OG the templars eradicated the pests.
>>741244614Bro there's like 4 minecrawlers with that named Templar.
Archolos is fucking fun, played 3 hours so far and I'm enjoying the shit out of it
>>741244589the robes conceal stonkingly huge muscles; biggest in the colony in fact
>>741244670there were two in the side tunnel and i pulled one for 2 templars, one of which was named, to fightthey both got rocked by it lol. yeah sure one got a swing off that took maybe 40% of the minecrawler's hp but they got stunlocked by the minecrawlers MUCH FASTER attack animations
>>741244741also i used the opportunity to steal the guy's weapon and other shit lol. nice two hander
>>741244791This is the way.
>>741244614In my experience, templars usually mog the crawlers, but can get overwhelmed if you bring 3 or more to them.In the chapter 2 pre-queen fight, I actually had to be very careful kiting the crawlers past the entrance so they wouldn't steal them all.
>>741244475I used the based swamp doggos to hunt 2 packs of bloodflies for me.I don't care about the exp, actually I'd still do it if doing so would actively remove exp from my character.FUCK bloodflies.
>>741245059I got the 30 dex bow and I can 1 shot the bloodcunts.
>>741244673yeah, it's the perfected form of gothic
>>7412446732.0 probably this year. Wait?
>>741245059the bloodflies stop being so annoying when you can crush their heads in with one overhead attack as they zoom in, but there's still too many of them. dumb oversized mosquitos. they dont even drop anything good, bloodfly wings arent worth shit
>>741245140I thought that by not playing G1/2 for around 10+ years I'd have a harder time going back to the jankiness and the controls and all but it feels like riding a bike, really. Shit's fun.At this rate I'll replay Gothic 2 sooner or later
>>741244673Yea, Archolos was kino. What do you think about the polish voiceover?
>>741244878I feel like the minecrawlers were pretty weak in the remake. Didn't they have an absolute disgusting melee combo that would stunlock you and almost kill you if you weren't overleveled?It has been some time since I played the Original but I always had bad memories of them.
>>741245207never played it before so not waiting>>741245243really good so far, surprised by how well the mod is made
>>741245368>Didn't they have an absolute disgusting melee combo that would stunlock you and almost kill you if you weren't overleveled?yes but to be fair this was the case for damn near every single animal in OG gothic. theres a reason why drake tells you at the very start of the game to lure them one by one and when they get close, start swinging and dont stop. you have to get them with your stunlock combo before they get you with theirs otherwise youre fucked
>find scroll of fire rain>200 fire damageso like, 5 fire bolts? glads I'm not a mage
>>741236286>tfw you play Gothic 2 Remake and find Finger's chest in the sewers
>enter wolf's house>nobody cares>steal everything inside>now when I come out entire camp attacks me>there are 3 of them standing right by the entrance so no way to sneak outwhops
>>741246094f9 moment
>Transform into a meatbug in the Water Wizard's library.>"I am a genius!">Get past the first merc guard.>Go down a long ass tunnel.>Go get past the second gua->"OH NO!" *SPLAT*
>stood on a ledge overlooking the drowner from the new camp and shot him 20 times with a bow because he deaggros 1 second after every shot the OG game would never let me do this
>>741244673I think Archolos is the best Gothic ever made.Maximum soul combined with maximum skill and understanding of what makes Gothic great.Elex 2 released a few months later and Archolos made it obvious how washed up PB were.In a perfect world THQ Nordic would have surrendered the rights to the franchise to that ragtag team of Polish virgins right then and there and we would have gotten the greatest RPGs known to mankind, but sadly this is not a perfect world.
>>741244449>>741244290I killed all those and 20 more
Anyone has an opinion here on the returning/new balance mod for gothic 2? I watched a few videos and I'm having mixed feelings, on one hand I like the new classes and mechanics on the other the nightmare mode feels like pure cancer and it's a bit too vanilla for my taste when it comes to world and locations, no new maps after Archolos and Odyssey feels a bit disappointing.
>>741244614>absolutely fucking mogged by the thing effortlessly It depends who lands the first hit, because they're both strong enough to stagger the other. Maybe it takes two hits for a crawler to stagger a Templar, but that happens often when they're fighting multiple Anyway, free swords
>>741246565Then check around some more, dunno what else to tell you. Hell, it might even be closer than you think and you actually missed them and went too far.
>>741246573tried it a bit and my thoughts are>unplayable without having to constantly consult a guideyou have side quests hidden behind most innocent dialogue choices and there are easy ways to lock yourself of more quests>island is filled to the brim with random shit, factions and groupskhorinis is some sort heart of the world where everyone livesnew plot stuff is generally also badwell from what I;ve seen and from what I've sen people play it it's more like content for the sake of content. it's like a fucking mmo or arpg where killing 10000 enemies is the game. you don't pay attention to plot or characters as they are nonsense, you are there to kill 9000 orcs in plundered khorinis in chapter 7
>>741246573also it has new maps, like 2 or somethingpeople hate them
>>741246757It's too late, he's dead. I spent hours on it, I'm certain that I didn't miss any. After clearing larger and larger areas, past the main gate of the village, zigzagging and swimming and dodging the sharks, he kept telling me the same nonsense so now he's dead That's okay, didn't wanna join the drug camp anyway. New camp, freedom, destroy the barrier
>>741247054You probably missed the ones in the beach if you were wading into the swamp
>>741234603Got to chapter 4 and merchants refuse to trade because I "broke the rules" and "in trouble" but I dindu noffing (swear on me momma). How do I solve this?
>>741244475Swampshark is a total bro. Not only he can kill bloodflies for you if you don't worry about exp, but also his trophies give you 1000 exp if you bring them to Cavalron + 250 ore. Just lure him into the camp and let Temple Guard and rest of the potheads empty his health bar near zero for you to finish him for extra 400 exp.
>>741244157dragons fucked up the fortress and entire valley is swarmed with demons, monsters and orcs. After you leave for Irdorath, orc drop their wooden wall and seize entire khorinis, so the whole paper is literal toilet paper because the moment hero can actually benefit from it, he becomes king himself
why would my presence in new camp change anything? I'm not there to dig ore, nor I'm big brained mage. If their plan will work then I could as well just sit in old camp, drink beer, get comfy and rich and then walk out when barrier goes downor I could just smoke weed at swamp. I don't have to be on rice diet in new camp, they can get their shit done without me
Oh...
>>741247321The beach was the first place I cleared, because they were the only ones visible from his lookout point
>>741247473blowing up the barrier doesn't work
>>741247658see? all the more reason to not join them
>>741247697But you still need to uhhh borrow their big pile of ore for reasons
>>741247658It would if the pile was bigger Get to work freshie before I fuck your ass on the main road
>>741247473it's purely about the mindset. new campers hate compliance and complacency. you clearly don't mind those.even if the attempt may be futile, they can't let themselves be passive, they must struggle against their cage. it's very Adanos, in a way.
Why the fuck did they change the herb names, like what the fuck do I even need for perma elixirs?
>>741234989they should make the mc into a shota while at itat least it would explain why he lost most of his powers, Xardas just messed up his teleportation
>>741248253Wasn't he trapped under rubble for a week or so?
>>741248327He was, for two weeks. Why he didn't die from dehydration I dunno.
>>741248521The armor was literal magic. It kept him alive but its power was at its end when Xardas pulled his head out of his ass and cast his shitty spell.
>>741248521Drank his own piss. It's toxic but kidney failure will still kill you slower than dehydration.
>>741248703The armor purified his piss
Old Camp is literally slave brain mentality >but it's so easy, convenient, and stable lol
Im at chapter 4 and tired of running everywhere, teleport runes or notWhen can I get a mount?
>>741249041Did you never meet the Coh guy near Cavalorn?
>>741249041You can get the mount in chapter 1.
>>741249123No? Where was that again?I just talked to that prick Xardas just to get sent on more errands. Fucking mages I swear
>>741249187Turn right out of the south old camp gate, and keep going until you find the fork where one leads to an old tower, and one road leads down.Follow the one that leads down to Cavalorn, and further along that road you'll have to make a left turn to mount man.
>>741248521Because he had at least 100 bottles of water, 50 bottles of wine and 9001 different potions in his inventory.
>>741249123this guy just tells me to piss off every time and flatly refuses to discuss scavenger mounts
>>741249425keep talking to him dudeyou have to annoy him a bit before he gives in
>Gomez ruins EVERYTHING.I'm gonna kill that fucker.
>>741249312dont forget somewhere around 500 grilled meats
>>741249609How do Polish people pronounce Gomez?Gyumyez?
>>741249867just Gomez
>>741249949Maybe you think so, but probably not. I would probably pronounce your name weirdly too
Damn Cor Angar's sword is insane. 105 damage.
>>741250019what are you on about retarded westoid
>>741249867go-MEZ
>>741249867Combine "go" from the word "golf" with the word mess, "go-mess"
>>741250293
>>741249867Like Mexicans
New Camp looks so beautiful on non-foggy days. And when you're not just doing stuff in the caves and actually get to hang out by the tavern.
>Caine's dead.>Wot? *eats chicken leg from his pocket*New Camp is based beyond belief
>>741250225You talk weird фaггoт
>>741235182Dont do it until you can give him ironwood. The oak one he gives you if you use oak is shittier than the hedge bow you can pick up free in a few spots.
>>741250557Remove volumetric fog, you cuck.
>>741250706Too late I use the scarce ironwood to Smith
>>741250558lares is a bro even if he has some absolute cunts in his gang that i immediately killed and do not feel sorry about at all, like those blackmailer dickwads at the bridge you have to cross to get to the new camp area
>>741250650>poles>cyrilicyou should kill yourself
>Abandoned hut outside the old hut that leads to the castle early if you have a scroll>Free royal guard armor in the fortress>A bunch of decent bows lying around unlike in OG>Bandit camp hints at being able to join it>Scrollmaking is good and you can probably find someone to teach it before joining a camp?>Can jank it into the castle proper and rob the barons blind>Know where 3 of the 5 hunting books areI never looked forward to replaying a game so much.
>>741250753No, the game looks awful when you remove it entirely.
>>741243550The entire Old Camp gets rekt by dragaons anyway, there's nothing but rubble left and a few quests. Valley is overrun by orcs.
I love seeing americans experience Gothic and being like "holy fuck where did this come from, how come I never heard of it?"
>>741252697stfu! i played the original ages ago and did not say that! u just want to claim it as your own!
>>741244589they just used a teleport rune no you can't have one
Remake filtered shitters with potato PCs lmao
>>741251142then enjoy the still shitty look AND eyestrain
>>741253062>buy the $10k PC to play unoptimized unfinished buggy shit games, goy!
>>741253491>I-I prefer original anywayxD
>>741253635looks great, you wouldnt get it.
>>741234603To anyone struggling with the great shadowbeast on hard: fear scroll works on it
>>741253635there is nothing wrong with this screenshot
>>741255616>unc eyesight is so bad he can't distinguish bad graphics anymoresad!
Talking about OG. Tried to play it, got GoG version.>base version is in english, mouse sensitivity is to damn low, like wtf low>I know that it have tank controls but mouse would be useful for looking but its just slow even on max setup>can't find fix>polish language version just stunlock my PC, it start loading something then it switch res into like 640x480 and just is stuck on some empty cmd screen>no idea even where to look for fix as gog forums are fucking shit and nobody visit them anywayAnyone can help?>>741253635Looks clean and everything is easily visible, remake is full of visual noise and I can't see shit
>>741255650you dont need good graphics for a game to look good; just good art direction>>741255674>mousestop wasting your time. OG gothic is not designed to use the mouse, not in any way shape or form. it is entirely keyboard based. embrace it.
>>741255674youre supposed to play it with keyboardgothic 2 has better mouse support iircif you want you can also play both with the controller mod that comes with union mod
>>741255974>>741255986I used to play it with keyboard like 20 years ago, anyway the mouse actually were useable back then but not now
>>741256054see now i know youre lying because unlike you i *actually* played gothic when it came out, being the crusty ancient fucker that i amand in no way was the mouse used
>>741256163nigga, why I would lie?it worked but here and now I can barely turn very slowly(maybe) with some weird effectssomething is broken
>>741239925>they made it real
>>741249867polish is just pronounced the same as latin mostly, it's english that's compketely fucked phonetically
>chapter 1>lvl 8, 60 dexterity, master bowman>killing orcs and wargs willy nilly>can even take on shadowbeast, takes 30 arrows to kill it thoughAm I overdoing it? I have load of trophies at this point, dunno where to sell them.
thank god there’s a remake this shit is ugly
>>741257689You can sell them to mage traders in later chapters when they'll have more ore
>>7412346032 handers feel sluggish even at master. Do axes have better stagger than swords?
I hope they do a lot of bug fixes because im enciubtering a lot of small ones, esp camera related ones and shadow/lightning with torches
>>741260037encountering*
>>741253635holy fuck swamp camp looks actually navigable in this.
>>741234603Oh kurwa.
>>741260148thats because it isunlike nu-swamp camp which is overflowing with pointless fluff visual noise and a labyrinthine, nonsensical design
>>741263468Initially I hated it, but now that I can navigate it, I actually like it a little bit lol
>pick swamp camp>magic potential stolen
>>741264042you deserve it for being a filthy cultist who abandoned the light of innos, the wisdom of adanos, and the mercy of beliar
Bro, what the fuck is Melvin doing here at the fucking Orc Temple?? He didn't get no Ulu-Mulu last I heard. I don't even get how the game glitched to even spawn him here. And why Melvin?
>>741264042of all the things to not change, why not give swamp camp some spells
>only armor for sale in camp is miner rags for hundreds of nuggets>miners don't drop it>shadows don't drop their armor>guards don't drop their armormotherfucker will i have to learn smithing to get something to wear?
>>741240040>not beating everyone's ass and robbing them to assert your dominance as the new alpha around the campYou disgust me.
isnt 1h better in general than 2h
>>741266704That was the case in the old Gothics but maybe being able to hit multiple opponents with one attack makes the extra range of 2h not as useless.
>>741266781yeah but in terms of attack speed an sheathe swpeed 1h have the upper hand dont they
>>741257689>Am I overdoing it?During my first Remake playthrough I ended up level 16 in chapter 1.There's no overdoing. Do everything you want and everything you can because later chapters are basically linear with very few side quests and there's no reason to postpone exploration if you don't get shredded by beasts.
>>741266252smithing is for weapons onlygo to new camp, then visint nearby free mine and you'll get the miner rags for free from the foreman, just say yes if he asks you about previous experience
Well I beat it after nearly 60 hours. Final battle, epilogue, "after story" (even though that's technically Gothic 2), were all really lame honestly. Great game though 8.5/10 wish it had less UE5slop crashing and more qol like faster use animations and being able to sort inventory without duct tape mods.
>>741267383So in ch 1 is miner rags the only armor you can get? Also block or dodge during combat? SInce the parry not very reliable for now
who is more manlymerc or warden?
Does smithing have unique weapons?
>>741267909Learn dodge roll in the new camp/bandits camp in the big hole
is it true you get mogged as str build in sleeper temple? cant you just use 2 rings and amulet plus best armor for maximum tankiness?
>>741268132Just gotta watch out when fighting more than one undead orc. You can get stunlocked and killed easily even with ore armor
>>741236220Colors fine, you just need to max the saturation - I like it vibrant tho, some dont
>>741268518my fucking eyes
LISTENIf you moa about eye strain there is one solutiondo nothingyes you heard me right, my eyes were hitting like crazy but now it stopped completely, you just have to adjust to UE5 slop lightning
>>741268518you're one of those tasteless fucks that make those overly saturated, bloom-out-the-ass reshade presets. aren't you?
>>741268993he is that man.
>>741268993I've disabled the bloom, but I prefer more explicit colors :)
>join swamp camp>wing it with stats>drank stat potions early >was told im under leveled for chapter 4>magic circle 1>didnt know climbing was a thing until just now>gave up and ran from shadowbeast lmao>still using custodians bladeit aint optimal but i hope i make it thru
magic is so shitheavy armor and big sword is the way to play gothic
>>741250898or those two near the orc territory.or those two in the woods near Cavalorn's hut
>>741269392Its a game for men after allMagic is for fags
what about bows? will i be laughed at here for enjoying a manly string?
>>741269392the old shadowbeast is literally impossible to kill in melee thanks to its badly designed attacks and inflated stats
>>741269463Only crossbows allowed faggot, one bolt in the face before the beast comes running in.
>>741269463I two-shot minecrawlers with my bow, so idk ;dd 44dmg, I understand there are bows that do nearly a hundred
>>741269532you dont know shit faggotin lord of the rings the manliest meanest orc was wielding a huge ass bow and killed that sean bean faggotbows are manly
>>741269609that was a uruki hai your cretinthe manliest orc in the movies was that ugly fucktard gothmog, and he did almost no fighting at all
>>741269705uruk hai is a halfbreed of orcs, shut your fucking mouth about correcting me you sissy faggot
>>741269532Where do you get more bolts?Why isn't there a crafting recipe for bolts or arrows
>>741269778Youd know about being a halfbreed huh you mutt
>>741269964thank you for admitting defeatkurwo jebana
stop derailing
>>741269908because you can buy them from every merchant by the dozens? I got 200 arrows & 80 bolts without even trying :/
>>741267909Armour is essentially gated behind story progression. Mostly you get basic ones on ranking up in hierarchy and you can buy some upgrades from the NPC that promoted you. Even top tier armour you can't really miss. It just isn't a commodity.
Chapter 2 has THE best armor in gomez room
All this Gothic talk made me boot up Risen 2, finished it and now playing 3 as Voodoo Pirate. People hate 2 but it's the one that I enjoy playing the most.
warden fully upgraded armor plus war bow is pure sex
Can you play Gothic 2 with NotR but without its gameplay changes aka you deal no damage
>>741242776>is that... a female? wooooooooooooow
>>741271453skil issue
The weird thing about gomez' sex slaves is that the one in the intro is pretty much wearing her outfit from the original but when you see her she's wearing something completely different.
>>741271597I finished it multiple times already I just don't want the next playthrough to be a grindfest slog where I genocide entire faunas for exp.
>>741271687maybe just do a dex run then?
>>741271453>aka you deal no damageThat worry was always way too overblown. The new balancing is just fine. It takes into account how you spend a lot longer in the early to mid game in lower level areas. You need to figure out which places you have any business being in at your current level.
>>741271281yeah but 3 has big fat patty milkers
>>741271687you don't need to kill everything to play notror any gothic gameI never understood retards who just must kill everything chapter 1
>>741264692melvin is one of the swamp dudes isn't he? a lot of them followed kalom when they split and they all went into the temple. At that point the orcs just let them in because kalom was "chosen" by the sleeper
>>741267974Merc's armor looks manlier.Templar beats both.
>>741270160Stop roleplaying as a pole you brown retard
>>741271281R2 and R3 are ass, Risen 1 was magical
can i just murder every no name npcs i come acrosswithout repurcussions
>>741272005nah in camps they'll fuck you up after. they forget after some days, or you can stash your shit, let them get ya, and then it should be fine (guards might kill you so save)
>>741271864Yeah, after I walked in a bit more I realized what was happening lmao. >>741271281Same, but only because using guns (which were giga overpowered) made me feel like an actual god.
>>741255650>>741253635Crazy how sumer brainwashed this sheep is
>>741271848Minmaxers ruin the fun for themselves I started Archolos yesterday and I dont give a shit about minmaxing, I just do what I want
>>741271281Risen 2 fucking sucks and has possibly the worst combat system of all time. Has the same problem as Gothic 3 where only magic/ranged is viable.Risen 3 is a lot better in every aspect besides jungle exploration
Is getting the ore armor early patched out in all game versions now? I just got into a room with gomezAlso how hard is it to get all 6 magic circles in one run? And also who do I pick if I want a skeleton army, I saw that was a thing in the original a long time ago
I know you can join the new camp in chapter 4 at some pointis it possible to miss that? I already talked to thorus who said I'm banished and Saturas sent me to Xardas
>>741248135golem parts
>>741272412I think 6 circles is for full mage playthroughs
>>741257689Its why I put progression on hard
>>741272362>Risen 2 fucking sucks and has possibly the worst combat system of all time.I actually enjoy its combat more than 3 now, parries are so easy to pull in 3 whereas you need to get more involved with the movesets of the enemies to do so. I joined the Natives so no guns for me, I liked crafting potions and voodoo quests but the sceptres are just so ass.
>>741268518Already did, it looks better but not good
>>741272412Ore armor was patched and locked until chapter 5. I think current saves aren't affected because I killed him and got his armor during chapter 4. Circle 6 costs like 130 LP total from 1-6.>also who do I pick if I want a skeleton armyAnything. Summons are scrolls only I think, but they probably scale in damage with your Circle tier like magic spells do.
Risen dropped the ball going all vodoo bullshit
>>741272627I found it more annoying than anything. Felt like a chore when I wanted to go melee. Gnomes are alright though
>>741257689I finished chapter 1 at level 11 having genocided the entire population of scavengers, bloodflies, molerats, reptiles, wolves, goblins and even some snappers, crawlers and biters from the New Camp to the mountain fortress. My limit was finding bloodhounds, I took that as the natural "Not going beyond this point yet" limits.Somehow at no point did it occur to me I could beat up random wandering diggers and other no name npcs for exp too.
>>741272961you can beat that one guy near the tent who warns about you the orcs. he has a sick crossbow
>>741272815>He is worse than a Gnoo, he is - may Tiwas forgive me for uttering this word - a Gucho
>>741247054There was one behind a tree right at the edge of the map when you leave left from his location.
>>741273368Yip yipLuv em little buggers
>>741238731Brother in Christ is this what modern gaming led to? Most locks have been super easy I feel like looking that shit up online takes 10 times as much as simply solving it.
>>741234603>JAM TESTGot that strawberry aura too
>>741234989>genderbent the seekers into HOT BUSTY BITCHESwait...is THIS what going woke means?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2fc2JBPGow
>intro mage is some dirty hobo looking faggot instead of Pyrokar>judge doesn't have his silly hatshit remake
HAHA WY HAHA BIEDNE HAHA GŁUPIE HAHA SŁOWIAŃSKIE KURWY>mmm ja tam wole oryginałno tak samo jak wolisz 20 letnie auta co nie cwelu z burdelu truskawo ukraińska kurwa z łagru pod moskwą? Po prostu ci nie pójdzie Remake Boży i cie dupa piecze gównie
>>741274789hat is in the lakemade no sense for pyrokar to run messages
Gothic total overhaul modshave you played any that are not Archolos? what's your take on them?>Arkonamod that tries to cram whole story on a small Island, partially succeeds, decent mod overall, 8/10>Golden Gate 2 about as close as you can get in terms of refinement when it comes to Archolos, big emphasis on money in this mod, 9/10>Dirty Swampavoid unless you're german, protagosts endless chatter will drive you insane, found quite a few ways to softlock yourself, 5/10>Xeres' Returnalternate history, starts off in the temple of the sleeper from G1, new faction of black mages, 7.5/10>OdysseeBloat the mod, as the name suggests it will be a really long journey, unfortunately it is filled with softlocks and pointless fetch quests that will have you run back and forth, can't recommend it 6/10>Nostalgic edition 1.6no new story just layers of slop from other mods(armors from archolos, various other weapons and armors lifted from other mods) 5/10>The Long Voyage HomeG1 mod, our nameless hero is replaced with female protagonist, combat is a lot harder and you're reliant on glaive type of weapons for combat, 6/10
>tried the original since I liked the remakeTo say it nicely, it's 25 years old game and it really shows.
>>741274823why not?aside from Milten he is the only fire mage who manages to accomplish the amazing feat of walking more than 10 meters from his designated spot
>>741274820Good morning Google translate sir
>>741274942message is important but not important enough to have him handle it personally
>>741274843>Nostalgic edition 1.6I like it the most because I mostly just wanna play the original with some polishing and I love stuff like getting mana if you give mushrooms to Constantino.
>>741274939>play G1/G2 15 years ago>try Archolos out lately>get used to the controls within 5 minutes and enjoy the jank like I did as a kid Fucking based
>>741274843nostalgic is the next one I'm gonna try outI don't like mods that replace the plot, or add thousands of bloat like returningI only tolerate archolos because it fits the lore and has quality of normal original game
>>741274789>>741274823>Had no idea about the intro discourse.>Hadn't seen the trailer.>Just dived into the Exchange Zone pool because "bet there's a secret in there".>Found the hat.>Fuck yeah, bet this is for a quest.>Couldn't find anything to do with it so eventually sold it for 4 ores while I was still in the desperately low level stage of the game.>Met Santino.>Santino asks for unique items.>"Oh shit, that's totally what the judge hat was for!">Had to track down which vendor I had sold it to.>Buy it back.>Go talk to Santino.>Doesn't want it.>Resell hat realizing it was just a funny easter egg.Adanos damn it.
>>741275180Nothing better than being fooled by the game. True gothic experience
My three playthroughs:>Swamp Camp2 handed swords build.>Old CampDedicated mage build.>New CampDexterity archer/crossbow build.Almost done with the Swamp templar playthrough, which one will be more enjoyable for the second?
>>741275261Mage run is only enjoyable while enemies can be killed by Firebolt spam, after that you will be bored and annoyed.
>>741275180Are there 'junk' type items that are actually useful for something besides earning a few ore?Found some unique looking wooden toys + letter but didn't find any quest for them.
>Gothic Reworked>G2 Nostalgic Edition
>>741275405So far as I can tell, junk is junk though some things like syrian oil or whatever it's called makes me think I can use it in alchemy somehow
>>741275405no, they really are junk
>>741275424Supremely based.I tried the L'Hiver mod once. What a fucking mess
>>741275465>mod that destroys visual fidelity>retards praise itbaffles the mind
>>741275520>7 different versionsMan, I can only explain it by saying it's for people who played G2 3000 times and want to play even more but still need some visual change.Also a level of difficulty that makes NotR feel like a tutorial.
>>741269332Custodian's blade works until Sleeper's Temple pretty well. Get secret Troll's Fist from the Adanos' Monastery, you will need Bloodfly morph scroll and you glitch up by attacking in Bloodfly form up the bloodied ledge in a cave with a chest and shitload of dead bodies that overlooks the monastery, iirc troll that you fight after getting the focus stone gets out of there.
>>741275664>Ach scheisse, jetzt gehts wieder los
>>741275672Do you normally get it by doing the Water Mage trial?
>>741242693>this nigga doesn't know how graphics options work
how is the 2Handed vs 1Handed melee combat in the remake?is 2handed still slow POS that gets you nicked 20 before you finish your is it actually good now?can you get 2handed training early with Mercenaries like the original?
>>741275424for g1 I used extended edition+ or whatever it was calledit was fineish from what I played though I hated being locked into new camp just by getting scrapper armor, and without it you weren't legally allowed into tavern on the lake
>>741275776That's just brute forcing it through saturation and contrast, it cannot replace the sovl of a proper art style.Even the armor is boringly realistic
>>7412757952h is pretty good and in this game you can hit several enemies in a single strike you only get the option to train 2h in chapter 3, though it has no prerequisites.
Zakochała się w mulacie Khorinianka za granicą przy nim czuła się jak w Varanciekochała Bakareskie discoon na imię miał Abuyin ibn DjadirOmar Kalid ben Hadji al Sharidi na nazwiskopoznali się na kwadracie gdzie było bardzo zimno
>>741275815>weren't legally allowed into tavern on the lakeJust get the minors armor from the dude in the free mine
>>741275180I am 90% sure that hat in the lake in Exchange Zone is a throwback to a line in shitty Polish overdub of Gothic Der Film in which The Nameless Hero says that he wants that "gay yellow hat" as a reward for bringing the letter (in that version it's a christmas esition of some shitty Polish women's magazine with CD, that he can take as a reward). It's 17 years since then, holy fuck, humour back then was something else.
>>741275996yeah that's the thing, that armor would lock you into new camp, or at least make old camp unjoinableor at least that's how I remember it, it would change your guild at least
>>741275771Doesn't seem so, cave has no other access than this ledge from what I saw when I came to pick it up in Chapter 5. I know you can access the cave on first playthrough, I checked the chest and I have looted it before.
>>741276090Is that a mod thing? Only way to join a camp is to either talk to Lares, Gomez or Cor Kalom and only after you do the quest>>741276167So there is a chest you can only get to by glitching around as a fly? Seems unlikely
>>741274843>Xeres' ReturnWasn't that one super bugged the more you played it, and didn't it completely fall apart in the last chapter, or am I misremembering that?
What are the main sources of revenue in this game? I'm wondering if I've gimped myself by not stealing the ore that people from the Old Camp have given me, since I want to join the new. Does it matter at all?
>>741276243>So there is a chest you can only get to by glitching around as a fly? Seems unlikelyIt isn't in the chest, it's just laying there loose together with a bottle of strong beer. Funny thing is, it is low enough that you should be able to jump up there, but you cannot grab onto that ledge. Some anon in earlier threads somehow managed to get up by jumping.
>>741276392selling weapons, go and holocaust the black goblins in a cave next to swamp camp
>>741276420So quest rewards aren't that significant then, got it. Did hurt to give Lares that 400, but I like the vibes of the new camp.
>>741276392Either doing quests or selling loot from enemies. Lares has a few ideas on how to make money too
>>741276464400 seems a lot but the xp is also nice, if you want more try to get the weed delivery quest from swamp camp and sell that shit to Cipher
>>741246573That depends on what you want from it.Do you love gothic's combat system and autistic character building, don't mind the clashing visuals and all the nonsensical additions to world? New balance is for youDo you like well written dialogues, good quest design and a decent difficulty curve? avoid at all costssidenote, NB has a lot of new maps (i can think of 9 or 10 from the top of my head), some of them are stolen from other mods lmao and none of them are goodi like it, but it's definitely not for everyone, it caters to a specific type of autism, i've done over 10 playthroughs over the years and i still have both the item list and quest guide open on my 2nd monitor while playing
>>741246573I personally love it. Takes a while to get used to but is really fun. It turns gothic more into a grinding game but I have enjoyed every single playthrough. It has multiple leveling modes from xp per dmg / learning points / learning points + xp dmg etc. Highly recommended and only download newest versions from myrtana net website
>>741276420Right now i'm selling grilled meat like crazy since lots of scavengers around
>>741276392Explore early.World is full of weapons and other gear and stuff you can get for free and sell for lot if you don't intend to use it.Learn 1 level of lockpicking so your lock doesn't reset with each broken lockpick and loot every chest you can.
>>741276673Based we have similiar autism.
>80 hours in Odyssee>still in KhorinisI'm getting burned out.
>>741276943Last I played Odysee I finished the game at 190 hour mark, khorinis isn't even the half way point.
>>741276243yeah I'm talking about mod
>>741274843>ArkonaPretty okay for a short game. I kinda didn't like that you had already seen the entire island after like 2 hours of playing. I kinda wished they fenced off some stuff from you so that you had more to explore.>Dirty SwampWell, I'm German, so the VA is really good for a fan mod. I just kinda didn't like that it pretty much only uses base game assets, and the story it tells wasn't that interesting.>OdysseYep, Bloat The Mod. I stopped playing it after the second island because it was just feeling so exhausting. I never felt like I had any urgency to do anything, and progression was just so slow. Bigger isn't always better.>Nostalgic edition 1.6Loved it, my favourite vanilla+ mod. Like, I get that a lot of it was lifted from other mods, but I never felt like it was badly integrated. I just really like how it adds so many armors, bug fixes, and features without changing the main story>Legends of AsshunMy second favourite. If Archolos is the poster child of the modding community, this one is probably its average brother that gets forgotten. It is just as long has a really nice world, some cool places to explore, and 3 guilds to join, just unfortunately not that many memorable characters and a story that starts off pretty strong but really butchers the ending. Still had a good time with it.
>>741277218thats just silly
post some kino fan contenthttps://youtu.be/y_ifjEYEMuY
>>741246573played it like 6 years ago and really can't recommend it. I even had like 40 hours in it before I stopped altogether. Pretty much what >>741246849 said it's kinda impossible to do large chunks of it without using a guide, because a lot of the quests are just badly explained or not explained at all. It got to a point where I couldn't progress the main story no matter what I did, and I didn't know what I was doing wrong. All the guides I found were written in Russian and didn't make sense, and mind you, that was before ChatGPT, so none of the translators I used made any sense either.It just burns you out completely unless you like MMOs.
>>741274843Atariar Edition was my favorite for G2 but it hasn't been updated in ages no clue if it still worksI also like the modfix for G2 because it's vanilla with a bit more difficultythe last time I played Nostalgic all the old areas were just filled with orcs and shitty items, honestly felt really boring to play through
>check of map objectives in top left>they show up drawn on the maopPure soul.
>>741277396>Legends of AhssunI read about the fetch quest criticism and didn't want to believe it.I thought it's just Oblivion kids that don't know about the Gothic formula where you are not The Chosen One as soon as the character creation ends and have to do menial tasks at first, but people were right.They really throw a malicious amount of fetch quests at you and all of it without a mount or fast travel, as is oldschool Gothic fashion.I'm glad G1 remake dared to implement a mount natively so I don't have to marvinmode speed potions to travel anymore.
HOW DO I GET A FREE MAP FROM GRAHAM?
>>741234989Wait hold on...let them cook there.
>>741277708https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=893bqdKqcVk
Where the fuck do I get onions?
>>741275664Karl-Jonathan, du bist ein Tunichtgut.
>>741278425First Diego needs to give you his quest to the old mine, then you can talk to graham but the map he gives you for free only shows the path from old camp to the mine
>>741278687Dexter sells them
>>741278425pay up piggy
gothic 2 remake whennnnn
So is the remake good or no? It feels like opinions are all over the place>inb4 that means it's goodNo it means there's no consensus
>>741278732Thank you
>>741278832only objective problem are the bugs
It can't be that hard to fix mages, right? Just bump the numbers up. It could be a hotfix.
Did the demake remove that naked woman sketch?
>>741278893That's a eurojank feature
>>741278832Remake itself is great all but copy pasted from the og in many ways. The biggest issues all stem from soulless art style and sometimes bad optimization and both are the fault of UE
>>741278894It's not the numbers, I just don't want most spells to be a stand still and charge type of bullshit. It's fucking boring even if it works and shit like fire rain is also trash, much less damage and maybe 3 meters radius
>>741278912No but its censored.
Toilet is RIGHT THERE
>>741279012lol cucked game
>>7412788016-7 years
>>741279004that's how mage was in original but somehow everyone conveniently forgot
>>741279190at least spells in the og were dirt cheap and effective, firestorm worked from chapter 3 all the way until the endmeanwhile in the remake it's firebolt until it stops working and then you're kinda fucked since the firestorm nerf
>>741279190That's because no one really played as a mage in the original. You go strength because it's the only thing that makes sense and you sprinkle magic because you're lazy but it's never needed and pure mage builds were always a meme until gothic 3.
>>741236286I really like this puzzle. There were a couple locks I couldn't solve, but I still really like it overall, if anything my only issue is that difficulty is randomized and then you unlock a 7-layer lock to steal one apple and three ore nuggets from a literal who miner. I hope they'll keep it for G2, with addition of lockpicking spells this gameplay mechanic will be exactly as it should be in my book.
>>741279190og didn't have every single spell be a charge up a shit like rain of fire cleared the god damn mapIn the remake you can use RoF in the center of Gomez throne room and it won't hit him if he's sitting on it.utter trash
>>741279265G2 skellie spam is pure mage
>>741279286in original fire rain needed to charge up for like a full minute while everyone was just free to rape you during that
>>741279286G1 firestorm was awfulIt didn't become a screen nuke until G2
>>741279331but if you pull it off you kill everything in sightRemake still has a charge up but the range is shorter than fucking firebolt
>>741279414during that chargeup time you could just kill everything in sight with a sword
>>741279440this isn't about fucking efficiency, I wanna cast fucking doom magic and that's it
>>741278391>Gothic formula where you are not The Chosen One as soon as the character creation endsCan you call that a 'formula' when Xardas in 2nd game already calls you chosen champion of gods right at the beginning and tells you your chosen status will allow you to wield Eye of Inos?
>>741234989Impossible since all the seekers were the Swamp Cultist from Gothic 1 who were on the side of Cor Calom and none of them were female
>>741279495yes because nobody else in the world acts like you are chosen and only help you if you've proven yourself
>>741279481and you cast it in remake, it's just not efficient>>741279516seekers are all cultists except for lester and cor angar who were too mentally strong or whatever so they only got headaches
>>741279516How can that be if you literally kill Kalom and his posse? In G2 they say that the banishment of the Sleeper made most swamp camp members go insane and run into the night screamingEven Lester and Cor Angar suffered from it they simply survived without getting found by Beliar worshippers and turned into seekers>>741279573>it's just not efficientComplete fucking garbage is what it is, in the og at the very least it was bloody fun to use
>>741279190Magic in G1/G2 was not fun but it was workable, spells hit for a decent amount and you never had much problems, mostly because they're not hard games but still.NotR you might fuck your build up but ice block, goblin skeleton and rain of fire can carry you.
>>741279149my guess is they can do it in 4 or less. they can reuse A LOT of assets, they've got snowy and volcano locales already. some shit can be even reused for notr, they've got tropical trees and shiti'm coping
>>741279495I guess he does, but nobody cares. You still have to unhobo yourself to gain entry to the city, you still have to become an apprentice to become a citizen and eventually join the big boys, the weakest enemies in the game are still going to kick your ass unless you know what you are doing or become stronger.
>>741279745>was not fun but it was workableIt was fun for me even if it's far from being the most efficient of builds.I also love being able to bully the Paladins>Pray to Innos for your transgression
>>741279816It only took 6 years the first time because the moors wasted years making some bullshit that couldn't even be called Gothic, as seen in the demo. So they had to remake a bunch of things from scratch which this time around won't be necessary.
>>741279573Was Lester in OG Gothic 1 also complained about headaches when doing his quest for focus stone? Or are they already giving forshadowing for Seekers in Gthic 2?
>>741279985I don't remember that happening
>>741279058>meanwhile new campthey will blame gomez for that too btw
>>741279985>Lesterno, only Nyras and Baal Lukor where the ones who went mad>why noteither because A.) was not planned/implemented since Gothic 2 was planned to be vastly different (the shit Water Mages complained about it fucking up the rest of the world came true, Khorinis is the last zone not getting raped to death by Demons)B.) Voice Actor was not available, you can hear his awkward delivery at the Stone Fortess in the original versionC.) Lester is just that baller, our companions are pretty much the best at their respective talents
>>741279985he did
>>741280275i wonder if Alkimia even make dragons the villains in Gothic 2 since in the original premise it was suppose to be demons
>>741280490And what functional difference would it make?
>>741280490yeah of coursethough initial premise of sequel was shit I wish for some merged version of 2 and sequel. Less dragons, more demons but too much like sequel wanted. And none of that world being fucked, war lost etc sequel had
>>741280490that would have been so much better, damn
Just now halfway through my second run I realized you can clear all blood of your armor and face by jumping into water. I thought blood decals staying on after combat was a bug.
Gotakbrehs....Was that dude from pcgamer right?
>>741280746You can even see a little of the blood as it separates into the water and dissolvesMoors were inspired it seems
>>741280558dragons are a thousand times cooler than shitty demons
>>741280746yeah, rain does that too
>>741234603This voiceline really used to freak me out especially when traveling during the night and these pricks were hard to spot.Shame Archolos haven't managed to find a way to reuse those guys.
>>741280857Generally so but in G2 they were pretty meh as monsters and cancerous to fight as enemies
>>741280857to play the devil's advocate (heh)Dragon concept was poorly executed in Gothic 2for starters they all mentioned how each of them corresponds with an element, but they fail even at that>Fire, Earth, Cold... Swampyou would think there would be a dragon who is tied to Air rather than stagnant body of wateranother thing is FIRE is the domain of Innos, his element should have been substituted
>>741280773>pcgamerIt reflects poorly on your intellect when you ask about that shitty clickbait piece of garbage.
>>741280857I don't dislike dragons per se, but they're a part of a huge downgrade of setting quality. G1 had a unique premise and an mysterious alien world, then in G2 they threw all that in the trash for a generic knight-fights-dragon dndfied slop.
>>741281316It's a good thing they didn't repeat themselves, actually. The civilized look of Khorinis is a nice contrast to the colony.
>>741280857They dont make sense, fire ans ice dragons would be an Innos and Adanos thing
>>741281316What else are they gonna do? A second semi-hellhole somewhere else?
>lares sends me to the swamp camp>take to like 4 dudes and get sent to the abandoned mine>go to lares again>he sends me to the swamp again>yberion sends me to go find a focus stone or some this>walk through half the forest and back to the swamp camp>get send to the old camp for some book>find it in a goblin rape cave>go back to the swamp>get send to the old mine by shalom>go to the bottom of the mine to talk to lester>find the gear, rally the templars>go back above ground to talk to lester again>talk with his friends>go back to the bottom of the mine to get into the nest>kill the queen>walk back to the swampHALF THIS GAME IS JUST RUNNING IN A FUCKING CIRCLE 50 TIMES
>>741282020I hope you got your free scavanger ride
>>741282020Thats the point of the game to tun around and explore
>>741282020Don't expect to get your contacts with Y'berion without some journeying around.
>>741282020you're going to love the part where you get like 10 swam camp related task in succession and when you finally do them all so you can say bye bye to swamp camp you'll get a swamp camp warp stone as a reward
tfw can't beat baloro anymore at level 3 on hardfuuuck I don't wanna walk all the way back here just to beat his shit
>>741281910there's more to the colony than just i being a prison. it's still no more than a part of the island. I just think they could do better than the generic medieval fantasy aesthetic.
I killed mordrag and now i have a sweet bow and a dex ring on top of thatniceee
Hope a 1h uriziel mod comes out before I start my 2nd run.
>>741282020you'll get teleport stones soon
>>741281316>all the fire mages come from this tiny monastery on a tiny island with a penal mining colony in itG2 is great but I really dislike many of its contributions to the setting as a whole.
>>741282164I never had issues with the aesthetic but maybe that's because I am literally German, beyond that I suppose you could make Khorinis more interesting, which they did with Jharkenda imo.Most boring part in G2 though was going back to the mine valley after it became an ork infested shithole.
>>741282370When did they say the Innos Cloister was the only one in the entire world? It might just be one of the few left but only because the rest of Myrtana is ovverrun.
gothicfags are so retarded they can barely grasp the story that boils down to>demon evil, you smash!with absolutely no plot twists
>>741282465So, the mages who helped with the barrier come from all over the kingdom but all the fire mages who ended up helping with the barrier are from the small monastery in Khorinis? Including the leader of all the fire mages, Xardas?
>>741282631Possibly, they have fucked up the lore a bit but I just assumed Khorinis cloister is one of the few left not in Ruins so the leader of all Fire Mages may very well be there.It also may have inflated value because of the magic ore.
Should i go for the One Handed master?Or invest in stats and wait for Two Handed trainer?I already mastered bow.
>>741282020>kill the queenyou make it sound so easy
>>741282394That's the thing. I really dislike Jharkendar because the random aztec shit doesn't land well on the euro island of Khorinis, but I think it would land rather seamlessly in the G1 aesthetic.
Do i miss out on much animal parts if i do both escorts to the swamp and new camp or is it negligible in the long run, ie i can still make a lot of ores?
>>741280746That was pretty nice detailAnd there's more.Next time you kill a beast with sword, try standing close to a wall and swing your sword toward it.
>>741282156Hard was a mistake.I only put combat difficulty on hard and get two shot by skeletons at level 14 with templar armor (only chestpiece upgrade though).At times it is quite frustrating, I couldn't imagine playing with no ore and no levels in addition to that.
>>741282857don't learn trophy collecting unless you want to go into scrollmaking. it's an absolute scam. the economy system where every next item of the same type is worth less to the merchant makes it impossible to make money with it.
>>741282813onehanded mastery is cooler + faster but the best weapons in the game are twohanders, not that it matters
>>741282813It's mostly down to preference though late game the strongest swords are 2h>>741282838I can kinda see where you are coming from but for me it just added to the mystery. The stone wardens are alien but that is the point, they were made thousands of years ago and some clashing made sense.They invaded the peaceful lands of Khorinis similar to how later the Seekers and the mine valley monsters do.
>>741282915ehh so far it's not bad
>>741282824well I'm a dexfag with a bow, it was pretty easy
>>741282939Nah you can make money with trophies by selling to mages over the course of chapters, also shit like Shadowbeast and troll furs are worth a lot
>>741283003fair point, I'm strengthfag and I had to abuse the dogshit AI with a bow that did like 2% dmg because her melee attacks are just unfair
>>741283003Is it me or is bow/dex somewhat overpowered?
>>741283042>Shadowbeast and troll furshow many of those even are there? like 4 trolls and 5 shadowbeasts?
holy shit im cummingbow and crossbow feels so satisfying to use
>>741282939That seems to be the case with everything. 1 plate is enough to make it worthless. Still its good to know so ill just bite the bullet and get to both camps. Getting sick of old camp
>>741283081sounds about right but I don't know if the troll respawns if you kill it before the Focus questTrophies might be barely worth it but my inner lootgoblin needs feeding and sneeding
>>741283064You can use shrink monster spell on the queen to make the fight trivial, at least in the original it was possible.
>>741282465>When did they say the Innos Cloister was the only one in the entire world?>>741282747>I just assumed Khorinis cloister is one of the few left not in RuinsYeah, precisely. They never say it but there is no other explanation.It's a change that makes the world feel small. It's no longer "the best mages from the realm" but "the best mages from a small island with a minuscule fishing town of the same name".
Give it to me straight, is 64 arrows enough for Orc Cemetery?
>>741283064I went in and bonked her to death as melee without problems. If you didn't upgrade your armor I could understand why you'd struggle though.
>>741283208the original fight was the definition of trivial>>741283273>minuscule fishing town of the same nameYeah Khorinis should be much bigger and I suppose big ships can dock but it's too small for all the ore that was supposed to go through it.You have to explain with engine limitations and just assume the Innos Cloister is the best of what's left
>>741283330sure, I did it with zero arrowshope you got your firebolt run from Torres
>>741283330Yeah and if loot shit properly you'll find another dozen arrows inside
Holy fuck so many tertiary noobsWelcome though
>>741283415try the novice water mage mod, makes Icebolt same novice tier as firebolt
>>741283493it that useful for anything besides firelizards?firebolt destroyed basically everything besides a couple of endgame enemies i vaguely remember some elemental golems but by the time I reached them I already had 100+ STR and just smashed them to bits with normal weapon
>>741283836More for variety than anything
>If you want me to let you pass, you must take down three golems and bring me their hearts! Muahahaha!>Ok, but I don't have to fight the tundra wolves, right?>Oh no, I might be a demon, but I'm not that evil.
NEW THREAD WHERE
>>741284157Already made one
>>741284072what's wrong with tundra wolves?
>>741284559Despite the name, they absolutely have no chill.
>>741284559Even deadlier moves than normal moves but they give 290 xp when killed, so take a guess what their stats are.
>>741284661only fought them from distance so the only difference I noticed compared to normal wolves was bloated HP
>>741284072And then he had to fight tundra wolves
>>741284793Hell no, I fought the first three or four and then once I realized I had to fight a pick of 5 at once I noped out and just sprinted past them. Still took over half my health bar before I got out of aggro range despite spamming dodge rolls because apparently their bites are heat seeking.
>>741284947Heat seeking bites are the only way to survive the tundra
>>741284785>so take a guess what their stats are.no idea, but they die to firebolt like everything elseyou just have to bring more mana regen weeds even the ice shadowbeast from the same area died to firebolt while normal shadowbeasts had fire resistance big enough to ignore the damage completely
