Any tips for playing this shit. My first time playing this series and the enemies are raping me.
>>741235129Play pc version instead
>>741235129Get a farmer so you could stop being poor and afford better equipment and items.
>>741235345Why?
>>741235442Because ds games are missing a lot of neat things compared to hd editions, also bug fixes
>>741235129>enemies are raping methats how it is, there is no problem or anything you are doing wrong. Its ok, let it happened.
>>741235442because he wants you to use casual settings obviously
>>741235129>Any tipsOkay>first 3 games have terrible gameplay because classes don't have any synergy>statuses are actually useful in the series, even bosses aren't immune to them. Shutting boss down for 5 turns is massive advantage>defence/armor is noob trap, always wear 2-3 accessories for stat boosts>hp is way cheaper than tp, do not spam most expensive skills/spells just to end fights early>farmers are very important to always have a lot of money
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>>741235129The early enemies shouldn't be raping you that hard. The cats might one shot some party members when you first find them but once you level a bit that shouldn't be an issue anymore. The floor 2 birds have a gimmick that the npcs at the bar tell you about.All of the classes are useable. Arbalest and Gladiator are going to hit noticeably harder than the other classes but it's not like you absolutely need them or anything.
EO3 is highly overrated.>entire game nosedives immediately after the 2nd stratum, Undersea Grotto>most the classes sound cool until you realize they're just EO1/2 classes with extra steps to do the same shit, going as far as to take Landsknecht and split them into two different classes, each doing less than what the Landsknecht can do by itself or Wildling just being a worse Hexer>a massive portion of the game is sea exploration, which is optional, boring, and the quests force you to use NPC party members over your own, fucking up your EXP>subclassing is neat but the classes are so poorly balanced there's basically no variety unless you intentionally gimp yourself>you have to play the game 2 times in full to experience all the classes due to forcing story shit into a story-lite series, unlockable classes is cancer to begin with but 3 does it in the worst way in the seriesAt the end of the day it's still fun but it gets its dick sucked so much harder compared to its superior follow-ups, and just barely beating out EO2. At least EO1 is the first game in the series and thus some of its faults can be forgiven for that alone.
>>741235129instadeath forges rape the gameeven more so with ninjas 20% instadeath on basic attacks passive
>>741237704Would it be better to play 1/2 before 3? I just started with 3 since its the later entry so it should have better mechanics
>>741235967Only the first two games are bad
>>741239205no 3 is the best of the ds games and the most soulful EO
>>741235967>defence/armor is noob trap, always wear 2-3 accessories for stat boostsis this true in nexus as well
>>741235129make one character of every class and give them combat study
>>741235129early on during the sea exploration part you can find traders who want materials you can mine, as reward they give you tp potions which let you spam expensive abilities the prince passive ability that regenerates hp by walking plus encounter reduction is very powerful there's plenty strats that trivialize resource management but those really worked for me until I got an unkillable party.
binding is very usefuldon't ignore it
>>741235967>first 3 games have terrible gameplay because classes don't have any synergyNo, that's not right at all. 3 has great gameplay and a lot of synergy between classes. 1 is indeed kind of weak and very basic but 2 started to improve things and has better class synergy.
>>741240189instead of encounter reduction you can also abuse the fact that changing floor resets your progress toward an encounter to heal off staircases
>>741235129these games are trash blud. tried them out before and its like that windows screensaver from back in the day. unplayable
>>741235129that's normal
>>741241453i miss these terrifying fuzzballs
>>741241495The series is excellent, it's simply not for you.
>>741237704sea exploration is awesome
>>741241949everything is for me. i am the straight white male gamer. everything NEEDS to conform to me
>>741242271I'm also that so they should conform to me. And not you because you have a weaker gamer score.
>>741237704>a massive portion of the game is sea exploration, which is optional, boring,I like the puzzle-like sea exploration and I don't find it boring it's definitely one of my favorite things of EO3> and the quests force you to use NPC party members over your own, fucking up your EXPI also like the scenarios fights, they will always be a challenge no matter at what point of the game you are, no matter how overpowered you are you're forced to deal with a problem with the tools the game developers gave youIt's very puzzle like too
>>741237704The game never "nosedives" at all, it's great throughout. Classes were interesting and better designed than what the first two had. Sea exploration was not a "massive" portion of the game but it was fun anyways and offered a good change of pace by offering puzzle-like exploration. Yes, damage passives weren't spread around enough in 3 but it's still a great system which offers tons of flexibility in party building.
>>741235967>statuses are actually useful in the series>defence/armor is noob trapThese are mostly bullshit.
>>741243693>half the game isn't a massive portionCome on, now. The main labyrinth was even reduced in size to accommodate the Sea.
>>741243726Isn't it one of the first three games where it's some laughable shit like 3 points of DEF mitigates 1 point of damage? And at the same time STR scales damage exponentially
>>741243726>>statuses are actually useful in the seriesNigger, EO is one of the most prominent examples of status effects actually being good. Not just good but extremely powerful.
>>741244032Beats me. I always used armor and never had any issues.>>741244051It's quicker and easier to just kill shit outright. Maybe they changed it in the later games, but aside from using sleep for the occasional random battle in 2 statuses were pretty worthless.
>>741243693The only thing about sea exploration is that I wish each island/boss had their own mini dungeon. I guess 4 kinda does this, but the main dungeons suffer for it.
>>741244378Ailments and binds are good in the entire series, especially from 2 onward.
>>741235129>My first time playing this series and the enemies are raping me.Working as intended.
>>741245579Binds absolutely fucking suck.
>>741245773How is being able to lock out specific attacks from the enemy bad? Sure, it's not the best way to deal with every enemy, but for a lot of them it's a really helpful tool.
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>>741245773Are you joking?
>>741235129EO h-game edition when???
>>741239205You should play 1 and 2 first just because their mapping is the worst and going back to them after is going to be painful.Nexus is by far the best game. 14 stratum instead of 6, 30 classes instead of 7.People vastly exagerate the usefulness of status effects. Bosses take 40 turns and you will waste a ton trying to apply anything that stops them for 3, then they become immune.
>>741245912I prefer universal, consistent solutions instead of finicky, inconsistent solutions that become less effective over time.
>>741244775Consider the way the untold games handle the extra dungeon. Sure you get an extra floor before each boss but that means the exp curve is balanced around that so they aren't really optional bosses anymore unless you want to grind to make up the difference. Not that you have a choice in 1U.
>>741246513I think binds get better as the game goes on because you can put more points into them, and you get better knowledge on how to use them efficiently. Also, universal solutions should not exist. They make games boring. Instead of needing to figure out how every enemy has to be handled, you just do 1 thing a million times and win.
>>741246949If you think these games are boring then why are you in the thread?
>>741247210Where the fuck did I say that?
>>741245773>one of the most well known, documented, and loved aspects of the series>actually, no, those mechanics aren't goodFucking peak contrarianism
>>741235967>hp is way cheaper than tp, do not spam most expensive skills/spells just to end fights early Must this post should be ignored, but there's almost a tip here. When leveling skills, it's often beneficial so before hitting TP breakpoint, like leaving it at level 4 rather than upping it to 5 due to TP cost increase. You can leave it there until mid game where you have a deeper TP pool to draw from. Sometimes 10 is never worth it due to skill cost.
>>741235129I'd like to get these games on Steam but the prices are crazy. Greedy assholes.
>>7412480283 doesn't have breakpoints like that. TP cost goes up every level.I'm not going to speak for the rest of the post, but that point is mostly true if you have a princess. With royal veil and monarch march you should have enough passive healing to auto auto attack down random encounters that aren't particularly dangerous. Though really something like a zodiac with dark either should be enough to help the rest of your team win fights turn one.
>>741247285All of these games have a universal solution. Allslash/Immunize/Apollon for 1, Climax/Midareba/Revenge for 2. 3 has so many naming any just feels silly.
>>741249120Okay, I actually don't have a response to that that is satisfying. Because I would say that those require specific builds you need to know going in to use. And the games weren't made with the players knowing that in mind. And there and then, there's questioning the worth of doing that. Is it worth playing the game in a way that makes it unfun? Then that makes someone ask who dictates what fun is. And all in all, it just feels like cope. I don't think it is, but it still feels like it is.
>>741249805How exactly is dumping all your skill points into a single skill a "specific build"? The utility of something like Allslash or Climax should be obvious just by their descriptions, and in most of the genre it's better to specialize in a few things. Like why would you even bother learning something like Tornado when Allslash is right there?
>>741246320>Nexus is by far the best game. 14 stratum instead of 6, 30 classes instead of 7.oops all trees and shrinesoops all dps
