TL;DR french journalist heard Bungie is getting cut in half thanks to Destiny 2 ending and Marathon doing really bad>And if that wasn't enough, Bungie is expected to undergo massive layoffs this summer.>I'm taking this with a grain of salt, but I'm hearing that at least 50% of the workforce (permanent or contract) has been affected as a result of the end of Destiny 2 and the situation in Marathon. https://www.vgchartz.com/article/468232/rumor-playstation-to-lay-off-at-least-50-of-bungie-staff-this-summer/https://xcancel.com/i/status/2066919638147973589
genuinely, GENUINELY what the actual fuck were they thinking making a game in the most volatile, casual hating market possible when they have been spending the last fucking decade building a player base in a casual friendly shitty borderlands and halo cross over slop gamemake another game in that fucking series to keep the community going, not whatever the fuck this slop was
bloated company gets cuts
>>741252639because reviving the literal precursor to Halo and turning into Apex Legends with Tarkov shit glued to it made the most sensereal answer: a bunch of old people in a boardroom decided to trend-chase shit that exists because it's easier for management
its fine, we all saw the layoffs coming due to Destiny 2 going into maintenance mode
>>741252639jason found a new hobby project for others to work on
>>741252639Pride
>>741252317I mean yeah what do they need the Destiny half for? making a raid? sparrow racing?
>destroy destiny 2>release putrid compslop that is nothing like destiny just to chase the arc raiders trend>dieWhat was the plan here?
For the price Sony spent on Bungie, they could have funded Gravity Rush 3, Bloodborne 2, and Ape Escape 4.
>>741252317suffa bungie suffa
How could this happen???I thought Marathon was a major success!
>>741254219they're firing the destiny team retard
Every single person employed at bungie deserves to lose their jobs.
>>741254120 Ape Escape 4 never ever...
>>741252317I hope you guys realize you arent entitled to a job
>>741254396what do you do for work anon
>>741253856>Chasing a game that got announced after your development was already mostly doneTop 3 smartest /v/irgin
So Sony is intentionally doing this right? After Destiny 2s final update there's zero logical reasoning in why they shouldn't just say fuck Marathon altogether and go back to destiny
>>741252317>Terrible newsAgree. Good news would be bungie outright disbanding
>>741254754yes they are intentionally doing this
>>741252639big corporations don't carethey'll roll the dice as many times as they can to make their own fortnite or roblox or minecraft
>>741252639>What's that? Sony bought up for billions of dollars and is handing us a blank check to do literally anything we feel like doing? And we're in charge of overseeing our market competitors and having final say on whether or not they actually get to see a release?>Boys, we just won the lottery. Call the hookers and pizza delivery boys over immediately!And that's how Sony incurred a $5.5 billion dollar loss and only has multiple studio closures and game cancellations to show for it.
>>741254754Intentionally doing what? Tanking their new game to go into a four year pressure cooker before they could even remotely show a teaser trailer for maybe Destiny 3?
>>741254982Don't worry though, it's all good, Jim Ryan got his golden parachute.
>>741254754despite what grifters tell you Marathon is a success; what Sony is doing its called "Consolidation of Assets", a big world I don't expect grifters to teach their audience of children.
>>741252639lmao dude just get good, you don't even need to exfil to do most contracts
>>741255078HAHAHAHAH
>>741254982Gaming branches of multi millon dollar corpos can rebuild, Zack Fair.
>>741254982Actually it was only a 700mil loss at this point
>>741255078Please don't say the word children ever again
>>7412547541. destiny is way more costly to maintain than marathon, they struggled getting content out even before the multiple rounds of layoffs2. D2's final update was made by stitching together the unfinished work from each separate destiny 2 content team, if they do decide to start up destiny again there'd be a great big long wait involved because there's no content left in the pipeline3. it's more optics than anything else at this point. sony just doesn't want another concord-tier embarrassment
HE MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANHE MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANBUNGIE, LAID OFF WORKERS, A THIRD TIME!
>>741252317
>>741254120Japan Studio is dead so they cant support on Bloodborne. Gravity Rush's creator left Sony. Ape Escape will be teased and hinted at for eternity and a new game will never happen.
sony massively overpaid for bungie lmao
>>741255325>1. destiny is way more costly to maintain than marathon, they struggled getting content out even before the multiple rounds of layoffsNigga Marathon is currently hundreds of millions in the red and getting worse every day
>>741252317man you can just say shit and it's news now.
>>741252317Only 50%?
>>741254754>2022-: So Sony is intentionally doing this right?>2010-2019: So Activision is intentionally doing this right?>2000-2009: So Microsoft is intentionally doing this right?take a hint lol
>>741252639>hem we got the chuds this time WE ARE OWNING THEM
>>741252317>heard>rumor>>741252639Filtered
>>741255078Keep up the good work fellow Marashill, unfortunately for me I guess I’m part of the layoffs…They just kicked me out of our discord, maybe it’s because I forgot to delete the argument lines a few times, but best of lucks my xister, may your izzat reach the skies
>>741255512>3.6B for the initial purchase>Then another 1M for staff retention (a lot of the top heads left anyways)>Then it later turns out that Bungie despite their "GaaS expertise", they can't actually maintain more than one game at onceSony got straight up conned with this deal.
>>741254754Destiny 2 was a commercial failure of gigantic proportionsThe impairement loss of Bungie value is LARGELY attributed to Destiny 2Redditors logging in a dead game changes nothing
>>741255672>FilteredIs that what Bungie is telling Sony? "All these custom...I MEAN CHUDS GOT FILTERED"
>>741255532NTA but ignoring how it played out, from a resource allocation and planning perspective.for a pvp shooter like marathon you only need to add a new map every 6 months to keep players happy, heck for season 2 they just made an existing map night and opened a "dungeon" that was already there.whereas something like destiny requires "content" in the form of storylines and maps/areas bosses/voice lines and shitit's way more work to keep adding stuff for PVE players to interact with than it is to give PVP players a slightly different room to kill each other in.
>>741255805So true that's why Marathon will carry the torch of success into the future for both Bungie and Sony
>>741252639>shitty borderlandscurious how destiny beat the everlasting fuck out of borderlands
>>741255805How? It had massive playerbase and was selling millions
>>741254754>Why do they keep updating the much less expensive game with minor established playerbase instead of the half billion super unoptimized juggernaut of a game that has been underperforming for 3 years now and that new players can't even fully experience due to lost content
>>741255798>1M*1B
>>741255274>Actually it was only a 700mil loss at this pointCorrection: They wrote down a $765M impairment. That's different, it means they lost so much money at once that the company can only afford to include a small fraction of the total losses in their report and will be required to write down the full amount in the next quarter's report.
>>741255805the first imparment loss of $150mil or w.e it was is due to destinythe second of $700mil is due to marathonget your facts right marasissy, no one wants your dogshit humiliation ritual
>>741252317Marathoff.
>>741255868Idk if Marathon will carry any success, but the fact that it's not 800GB and is actually optimized already makes it a more feasible investment>>741255890Because Destiny 2 costs as much as 3 or more Marathon games. It's the top 5 most expensive game ever made
>>741255805But.....my dead cat bounce....
>>741252639>"Hey guys, I just heard there is this new craze about to become the next big trend in gaming!">"Well spit it out man, what is it?">"They call them extraction shooters">"We need one right now. Start one up, turn one of our existing projects into one, whatever it takes"They and a bunch of other developers got one guy'd by some market analyst who said bet it all on extraction slop
>>741255798You left out the part where Bungie spent every waking moment sabotaging the other GaaS shit being made at Sony to ensure they wouldn't have internal competition to worry about.
>>741255913Except Marathon isn’t less expensive? The number of devs working on Marathon was more than the number on Destiny since they dragged most of the devs over to help the game release.
>>741256073Loving every laugh.
>>741254535NTA but I agree with him and I work making buildings
>>741256073Are those the meds Maratrannies want me to take? I'm taking the blue pill on this one
>>741255805LMFAO the impairment loss was due to marathon being a collosal flop you retard
>>741255971Lol, you are so butthurt>Sony previously reported a ¥31.5 billion ($204.2 million) impairment charge after Destiny 2's underperformance in Q2 and has now recorded an additional ¥88.6 billion ($565 million) impairment in Q4.>Bungie's extraction shooter Marathon launched during the fourth quarter, with Sony noting that "player reception is strong" and "engagement metrics such as retention also remain at a high level.""Going forward, we aim to improve the performance of the game by working to retain highly engaged core users through the introduction of additional content, further improvements in the gameplay experience and expansion of the user base," it said.
>>741256073Extraction slop with one of the ugliest visual designs ever made, let's not forget that.
>>741256092>Still lose to a swedecucks game with maybe 10% of the budget of marathon and which was already dying because the devs hate their players
>>741255810Less content required mean less employees which means more to lay off. I can see Sony's thought process now; they might not stop at slashing Bungie's 800 to 400. I think they believe Marathon can limp on with maybe 200 tops.Which also makes sense businesswise too, cuz it saves money in the form of writing off Bungie through another impairment loss later.
>>741256183No it's literally stated to be Destiny 2The same report says Marathon has strong player reception and Sony aims to invest on itYour source: some 40 yo youtuber grifter living with his momMy source: I actually read the financial report
>>741256073What happened was one or two trannies at Bungie got really really really into Tarkov and would not shut the fuck about it then when Sony bought Bungie they greenlit a standalone Destiny 2 Tarkov mode called Marathon.
>>741256205NOOOOOOOO FUCKING DELETE THIS NOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU>>741256092>Not my uncharted online slop
>741256205>THAT shill is here >Player retention is strong >Couldn't even get half its launch numbers while free and with a new season>Already back to the lows of before that Flop of the year
>>741256119>Except Marathon isn’t less expensive? Are you asking? Because you are wrong>>741255971>the first imparment loss of $150mil or w.e it was is due to destiny >the second of $700mil is due to marathon No the impairement loss is due to Destiny 2https://www.gamesindustry.biz/playstation-records-765m-impairment-loss-from-bungie-as-operating-income-falls-416-in-q4
>>741256273I like Marathon and I cant imagine why that game needs or even took 800 devs to make.the first person they fire should be the UX people, I should be able to see the armory and my loadout at the same time and it's fucking bonkers you can't
Does this indian actually think that spamming the same nonsense over and over will magically make Marathon a success?
>>741256293There you have it folx! Chuds btfod! It's a Marathon not a sprint!
>>741256441Anon if you have 500 devs working on one game for a year vs 300 devs working on another game, which was more expensive? The answer is the 500 dev one which is Marathon for the last year since they swiped most of the destiny team.
>>741256205>>741256441So you're quoting a news story that is implying the second impairment is for Destiny yet Sony waited until after the maraslop launch numbers and initial sales before issuing it, almost like the valuation was dependent on those numbers. They also specifically referred to Destiny in the first one but not in the second, and it would be insane for a company to specifically call out a new product by name in something like that, but by not calling out any product it's obvious to anyone that even has a remote understanding on large corporate financials what it meanskeep coping sissies, surely bungie will hire you after your temp shilling engagement is up>>741252317oh wait lmao
>>741256464>and I cant imagine why that game needs or even took 800 devs to make. It didn't. Marathon was in fact developed by around 200 people, and now has 400 due to Destiny 2 being killedIt was Destiny 2 that received ALL of Bungie attention, which is why it was so much catastrophically expensive over Marathon and not worth mantaining
>>741256293I'm sure the last dozen or so Concord players also gave strong reception up to shutdown. Such words mean jack and exist solely to trick the boomer investor board into continuing investment.
>uh the impairement loss is because of Marathon>>No it says right there that it's due to Destiny 2>NOOO INDIAN INDIAN INDIAN MARAFLOP
>>741256379>of the year
>>741256269the devs seriously do hate their own customers, what's that shit about anyways? So common now.
>le concord
>>741256205YUSSSSSSSS WERE BLASTING OFF!!!!!!
>Bungie layoffs half of its devs>They still pay the retarded shill to defend them here
>>741256650So where are the other 400 bungie devs in your headspace?
>Marashill is a deranged leftytroonEVERY TIME
>>741256705I'm fairly sure it's due to DEI and incompetency caused by a lack of competent personnel
>>741252317Well they don't need those people who were working on running Destiny 2
>>741256787>They still pay the retarded shill to defend them hereNo, no, they do it for free.
>>741254275The team for the game that is doing better than Marathon?
>>741256593>Sony waited the fiscal year for the fiscal reportHoly shit u are right somethings offRetard
>>741256787>>741256832It's literally one person and xir has been doing it since before the game launched kek
>>741256842>Doing betterThe free update for the free game must have brought lots of money for sure!
>>741252317That is terrible news. It’s not the liquidation I was hoping for. I guess it’ll have to do for now
>>741252317400 developers work on MarathonThe other 400 were working on other projects and Destiny 2Now those people are getting laid off because Destiny 2 is dying and teddy bear whatever was shitcanned probably
Whats up with Marathon players being basically weird ass leftists/progressives lol? Is there something in games story that panders to these golems or what? Every single time I see here or anywhere else they start spamming shit about nazi chuds kek. Literally pic rel but leftist version.
>>741256806Ross is one of the most based men currently making gaming content
>>741256930...yes, it did. The game reached #1 in best sellers by revenue and is still way above maraslop KEK
>>741256806Lmao
>>741252317400 people is likely more than the "devastating" layoffs coming to Xbox soon.Insane where this industry is. None of the big three seem capable of consistently putting out new games. And these new games are largely rehashed ideas, remakes, or remasters.
>>741256806>Transphobic>Capital G GamerGuy sounds pretty cool we need more of him in the industry
>The free update for the free game must have brought lots of money for sure!
>>741255325They made a fuckload of money with Destiny.But instead of pouring the money back into Destiny or securing it, they, like most other retarded companies nowadays, expand expand and expand.
>>741257104Xbox is outright closing studios, Bungie is being spared in comparison to what's happening over at Xbox
>>741252317But maratroon is good guys
This is only the beginning.
>>741257187Marasisters... we got beaten by a fucking silver bundle..
>>741257057>The game reached #1 in best sellers by revenue So did Marathon with Season 2 release. Means absolutely nothingIf 2000 people buy a game in a day it just kicks off on top of the list lol
>>741257195They spent it on gender reassignment surgeries that's covered by Bungie's health insurance
>>741256179I'm sitting here trying to - and trying not to - visualize what a SMT demon called Maratranny would look like
>>741257227Kek
Destiny has such great art design. I don't see how they went from that to Marathon. Oh well, that's the way things go. Either put up or go out of business. It's a doggy dog world out there.
>>741257203Anon Bungies headcount is 800 people. This means 400 gets laid off. Ninja Theory,Compulsion and Double Fine combined are at roughly 300 people lmao. Hes not wrong.
>>741257313>Destiny has such great art design
>>741252317>but I thought everyone was having a blast?lol lmao
>>741257339Studio closure is just more final as their IPs will sit on a shelf and rot for eternity, regardless of the number of people laid off
>>741252317oh no
>>741257249>So did Marathon with Season 2 releaseThis never happened
>>741257030No chuds are just retarded that's all
>>741257279I mean...no?
>>741257397>>Destiny has such great art design
>>741257313It looks goddamn the same
>>741257030They pathologically need to do the opposite of whatever their perceived enemy is doing. Orange man says crime is bad, they legalize crime, etc. White males said Marathon is shit so they have to shovel it into their mouths and expound on how delicious it is.That's only a food analogy if you're indian btw
>>741257523VGH
>>741257279>Maratranny>just Mara with poorly done geisha makeup onI can somehow see Atlus actually making it a thing
Marathon is thriving
>>741257523>>>Destiny has such great art design
>>741257523bro you made the outfit
>>741255805>THIS is the artstyle that will give us hundreds of millions of dollars!genuinely wtf were they thinking?
Today they lay off half the company.Next, they will spinoff whatever valuable IP the company still has into a separate studio or subsidiary for Sony.Then you will see a mass exodus of whatever "talent" the company still has, with the choicest employees being transferred by Sony to other studios it owns, and the second string being snatched up by other studios. Bungie will exist as a hollowed out shell for a few years before being ignominiously shuttered, to the surprise of nobody and the sorrow of only the most deluded fanboys still mourning Destiny 2.
Is this gun from Borderlands or Destiny? Is there any difference between the two in the first place? You decide.
>>741257514Is that the chopped off tranny cock that's haunting Bungie?
Move aside Todd, Destiny superior art design right here, this is hwo you make sensible gun design
>>741257552>food analogy
>>741252317But I thought everyone was having a blast with marathon?
Good. The rape is coming and there is nothing the Marasissies, shills nor Bungie themselves can do to prevent their fate. Bungie will be gaped beyond repair. Sony will not even sell off the Marathon or Destiny IPs like cheap whores to make a quick buck. Instead those IPs will be thrown into the graveyard never to be seen again. This was only the beginning, there are rapes to enact beyond this feeble company. This is the inflection point for total DOOMGOD ascension and we will watch as the industry burns to ashes! There is no preventing what is coming... you could try praying, but not even a deity could save them now. RAPE BUNGIE
>le tranny boogymanyou lost cissiesraped and gaped by trooncock
>>741257104Nintendo at least has a pretty reliable audience for its Nth Mario / Zelda / [stock IP] game. Even if it sells poorly it's not going to really impact the company's bottom line too much because they have so many "in case of poor quarter break glass" game ideas.
>>741257740Guess soon they indeed won't have to stick to making videogames, lel.
>the magazine goes into... Uh... Idk it's fantasy or some shit
>>741257763Marathon is fine, that's the destiny 2 team leaving
>>741257867bullets are fed around the speed hole into the chamber after taking a scenic tour of the stock of the gun.
>>741257910The game with 40x as many players?
>>741257765t. guy who died in the shittiest expansion
>>741257723they did a shibari with BUNGIE cordget it?
>>741252317Why are they so adamant in saving Marathon lmao
>>741257552>They pathologically need to do the opposite of whatever their perceived enemy is doinghe posted, on 4chan
>Marathon understands bore axis and properly depicts alternative en bloc garand style feeding systems for a family of weapons from a specific manufacturer >Meanwhile Destiny superior art direction
>>741257937Yeah, right now, lol
>Marashill just admitted to being a troon KEEEEEK
>>741257867that one's a laser gun anon
>>741252317This the same guy who said Snoy studios were getting cuts then backed off? I expect Bungie to lose a few hundred though. Xbox niggers will pretend it justifies them losing thousands.
>>741258008Umm, marathons on pc and Xbox too you know. Hmm...I wonder what console it's not on uhhhhjj
>>741258093raped and gaped
>>741258067Dont lower chamber revolvers exist?
>>741258086Maratroon will never go above 20k again
>>741258086Its higher than marathons all time high lmao
>>741258093He's just some sharty retard larping
>>741257765I love these posts
>Marathon understands bore axis and properly depicts alternative en bloc garand style feeding systems for a family of weapons from a specific manufacturer
>>741255885borderlands still gets games tho
>>741254120Gravity Rush games sell poorly so I don't know why you think it would suddenly make a resurgence. It's like hoping for Tearaway 2.Bloodborne 2 will not happen unless Miyazaki lets anything happen with the IP and since they've contacted him countless times just to remake or upgrade Bloodborne 1 that's basically a no-go.Ape Escape games always sell poorly and at this point the only people who care about it as a brand are people who grew up with it.People do not want these lower budget games from Sony as has been shown via the sales figures. Just look at how Astro Bot only did something like 2.5 million despite everyone and their mother heaping praise on it and it getting the most publicity a game could possibly get. You think they'd bother to invest even a small amount of money on Ape Escape and Gravity Rush? Seriously? I say this as a fan of all three brands, modern Sony wouldn't do it.
>>741258150Yes and noguns are gay retards.
>>741252317I'm starting to think the western games industry is never going to learn.
>>741258150Yes and the hammer is lined to the chamber all the same
>>741252757based panda explainer
......lol
>>741258134Lmao this nibba playing team sport with his favorite corporations!
>>741258067here's your (You) retard
>>741257249>So did Marathon with Season 2 releaseIt did not. You can literally check that on SteamDB negro.
>>741258248>finger right next to the chamber Does this not fuck up your finger?
>>741258178For its funeral lol
>>741258320Here's a pic of the internals for funsies
>>741254940The funniest part is that they'll say they're "risk averse" while trying to make the next Fortnite, which is about the riskiest thing you can try to do.
>>741258138LOL
>>741258212Same. They remind me of better days
>>741258373Is what I would say if I attached a picture
>>741258180anon thats everyone left on this sitetrannies, larpers, shartycucksyou're one of the three whether you like it or not
>>741258320That's a lever, that's not an hammer, retard, you can see it doesn't hammer into a primer, unlike the Destiny 2 design where it clearly is an hammer
>>741258305Back to Twitter, Nig Griggity.
>>741258218Splatoon raiders is looking WEIRD
>>741258414Nigger Ive been here since longcat
I just have fatigue.It's really bad and I've been going to the doctor for it and I'm getting worried.
>>741258445You could as easily just say "this future guns lever looks like a hammer"
>>741258445prove the D2 gun design is a hammer. not accepting "looks like" as an excuse btw.
Was marathon even woke?
>>741258353it absolutely can, but usually only if you stack your thumbs and it's out towards the barrel end of the cylindergases escape in the gap between the cylinder and the barrelfor it to harm your thumb in the back or your trigger finger, there would have to be a catastrophic malfunction
>>741258485holy unckill yourself already before the thousand year zoomerGOD reich is enacted
>>741252317i thought xbox owned bungie
>>741258248I wish to clarify what hate speech is.While young people often use the phrase “that’s so gay,” what they don’t realize is that this is actually hate speech. It furthers the idea that something that is “gay,” is bad. Many years ago, growing up in a small Southern town, we used the “N” word where young people say “gay". Regardless of how you actually “mean” it, regardless of how many friends one has who are homosexual, regardless of whom you’ve heard it from, it is still hate speech. It is a way of saying that “gay” is wrong, and using it hurts other people whether you actually mean to or not.I assure you, that no matter who says it, or how many people say it, “that’s so gay” IS hate speech.If you don’t think it is, put in any of the derogatory phrases used to describe race, ethnicity, religion, gender, or sexual preference. Think about how people have used words to describe Blacks, Mexicans, Immigrants, Jews, Asians, Polish persons etc and so on. Instead of saying “that’s so gay” in your head, replace gay with one of those words that describe these other groups of people in a negative and derogatory way. Is the phrase hurtful and hateful then? What if it describes the group of people that you are in? Are you hurt or offended to hear the N word, the WB word, the word that describes Middle Easterners etc and so forth and so on>It’s hurtful. It is bullying. It is hate speech. Please, stop doing it!
>>741258551george droidandrogynous transhumanist settingjust plain ugly
>>741258615Sonys owned bungie since 2022
>>741255337I can vividly hear it already, too.
>>741258654fagit
>>741258654This but sarcastically and ironic
>>741258510No I can just say it is a misplaced hammer because it's literally a revolver hammer. It's not a leverThe art direction of Destiny is putrid dogshitIt has from the most nonsensical sci-fi weapons to bullshit fantasy guns alongside modern day stuffThe outfits also are all a mish mesh. The whole game feels like it was made meshing everything and looks extremely generic as opposed to Marathon having a clear defined art style
>>741252639>casual friendly shitty borderlands and halo cross over slop gameActually Destiny already pushed all its casuals out of the game completely. The casuals enjoyed doing strikes, a little bit of pvp, and that was it. They stopped supporting pvp, literally three and a half years without a new pvp map at one point, so when the casuals got bored of strikes they had no where to go so they just leave the game. Bungie didn't even make new strikes. Imagine world of warcraft launching a new expansion with one dungeon, because that was what Bungie gave the casual strike players in The Final Shape, and it's no wonder they left.
>>741258654imagine being polish and being lumped in with niggers and kikesI would be embarrassed
>>741258654How ppl can like run like a shit? No one know play normal, Skipping Spawnpoints to rush... need this gay sword thing on all, now ult swapping to fall 0,000000000000003 sec faster and use grenate launcher to fall faster too ? And then say WORLD RECORD SPEEDRUNG... no is just a noob run, not more. i hate ppl with sowrd to run things. Imagin play a game and no play the game... this is NOT a Speedrun, not Record i just a wasted time run.
How to fix gaming in two simple steps:1. Stop giving money to studios that make bad games. 2. Start/Keep giving money to studios that make good games. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
>>741258654>What if it describes the group of people that you are in? Are you hurt or offended?no, not really.now what?
>>741258719>It's literally a hammerWhat makes you say that? Because it looks like one? All destiny characters look like power rangers to me, does that make them power rangers?
>>741258757How to fix gaming in one simple step:1. Destroy all video games.Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
>>741255078> despite what grifters tell you Marathon is a successMoron.If Marathon was such a resounding success, Destiny 3 would have been instantly greenlighted, and additional artists hired to bolster the creative teams. So why is Sony letting so many highly talented people go, in your opinion ?
>>741258541>prove the D2 gun design is a hammer.It strikes into the revolver lolDestishit is fugly
>>741252317>literally having a blastNothing wrong with this
>>741258719this is called "priorities" in art designperhaps marathon is more consistent and even well thought out compared to its contemporaries...but what was the point of all that thought if the end result is objectively hideous and the main reason people don't try the game? that's what happens when your priorities are in the wrong place as an artist.
Season 1 was ok, could've been better but season 2 has been an absolute disaster with no signs of them surviving past season 3 at best.t. 280 hours
>one of the 3k people still playing marathon is in here with us, defending his purchase relentlessly.
>>741258869Marathon being a success is the reason Destiny 3 is unnecessary kiddo, Bungie doesn't need two games competing for the same market.
>>741252317Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of troonified slop peddlers
>>741252317Why won't you Fucking Cocksuckers just give their Fucking games a chance! You might actually Fucking like them if you just give them a real Fucking chance!
>>741258719Nice gun, bethesda kek
>>741258806STOP. KILLING. GAMES. RIGHT. NOW.
It's over for Destiny 3 future, you guys did not support marathon....
Play Splatoon Raiders.
>>741259012kill all gamerskill all gameskill all goys
>>741258950I hopped on the blast after this free week, what's so different in season 1?
>>741255956That's not what an impairment loss is, you retard.Impairment losses work like this:>I spent $100 to buy a thing>something happened, and now the thing would only be worth $25 if I tried to sell it>the impairment loss is $75An impairment loss doesn't mean you've realized any kind of actual loss yet.
>>741258956I just like talking about games I like but I'm still also BLAST posting. The reaction around this game here has been somewhat fascinating
>>741259053It's not out yet retard!
FOUR BILLIONS DOLLARS
>>741257407What ip do those studios have that are good and that another studio couldnt do?
For some reason, western AAA developers believe they're entitled to record sales just because they wasted A LOT of time and money on developing their game that has no appeal
>>741259146Slower, more balanced progress. You basically didn't see purple shields on enemy players on the regular until 2 months into the season and Bungie was tweaking how certain loot spots worked with rewards from them. It wasn't amazing but did feel like they listened to feedback and reacted quickly compared to Destiny where it was radio silence frequently and changes nobody asked for. Now with season 2, players are in purple/gold gear after a couple weeks and it feels like the devs are panicking to fix things they didn't forsee, and big lack of communication compared to S1.
There's that story about Netflix where they laid off a third of their employees early on, and the company's productivity went up because guess what? Filling your company with bad employees is worse than having fewer good ones.All these Western softjouses must be bloated to hell.
>>741257187It did, because Destiny 2 was #1 in the Steam Top Seller Charts for almost a full day and a half last week.
>>741258038I'm pathologically anti-contrarian.
>>741257639>whatever valuable IP the company still hasI think it's literally just Destiny and Marathon>Halo belongs to Microsoft>Oni and Myth belong to Take 2There's nothing else.
>>741257397>>741257523>>741257593>>741257658>>741257723This is some amazingly concentrated seethe from a buckbroken marathon fan who can't stand that D2's art is leagues better.
>>741259465Yeah because it died
>>741259650Both Marathon and Destiny are dead, but in different ways.>Destiny is dead in terms of no more updates, but it's more alive and active than Marathon ever was>Marathon is dead in terms of no active players or interest, but it's technically still planned to receive updatesBasically, Destiny is a lich and Marathon is a corpse on marionette strings.
>>741259845Marathon is BLASTING OFF!!!
I really don’t understand Marathon on a conceptual level. It’s basically a battle royale game, but that is more punishing than a regular battle royale. This doesn’t make for a more interesting game, but it alienating a good chunk of your potential audience. It doesn’t make sense from a game design perspective or a business perspective.
>what if we make game but, ugly>holy shit that's the best idea ever!
this is the price you pay for turning Saint-14 and Osiris gay.
Marathon is such a failure that the only real way to "fix it" now is basically remaking it into a new game and that would require digging yourself more into the money pit that it already is
Okay, glad I checked /v/. Everything is going exactly as I foresaw it. Just so you guys know. This is only the beginning. Naughty Dog is next.
>>741260963>Naughty Dog is next.Next guy?
Destiny Update: Still dead!
>be Sony>Bungie present new project>Umm these characters look kinda stupid>Don't worry we will strap the name Marathon on it and they will eat it up, trust me bro>well I guess I already spent 4 gorilla dollars, it worth a try>by the way our salary will be 1 million a month>...>fans are skeptical on art direction>caught stealing art asset from twitter>impress no one during test>release with barely any fanfare>player number pummeled>Destiny 2 on its last legs just did 8 times better than Marathon free weekend
>>741252317>BUNGIE IS PLANNING TO LAYOFF 50% OF STAFFDidn't they already do that? Or is this on top of the previous 50%?
>>741261170second round of layoffs.
>>741261170>Didn't they already do that?It was either a while again or I don't remember it.
>>741260963Santa Monica will get layoffs after Laufrey underperforms THEN Naughty Dog will get them after Intergalactic underperforms. Really, every western vidya company needs to do mass purges to get rid of the people that decided to sell unpalatable games.
why did you guys do this
>>741252317I won't stop doing nothing until we get to 100%.
>>741261496I didn't do nuffin!
>>741261496
>>741252317Ermm, /v/ told me the game was a massive success...
>>741261496Good. I didn't do anything and somehow I won.
>>741252317GET REKTLMAOOOOOOOOOI WIN AGAIN
>>741261852It was a massive success. Also, I asked Sydney Sweeney out on a date today and she said yes. I stay winning.
>>741260963>Naughty Dog is nextOh please, Sony always sucks naughty dogs dick whenever they get the chance to waste money. I would rather believe sucker punch will get hit with lay-offs first than their "golden child" naughty dog.
>>741261249This would be the third round, right? They were 1200 when Sony bought them, 200 got laid off. Then they laid off another 200 to bring them down to the 800 they are now.
Nintendo won
>>741262148Nobody cares about a bunch of weak sauce contractors getting the boot, that happens at the end of every project. It's way more satisfying to see people leave a studio after multiple years of employment.
>>741262115>Sony always sucks naughty dog's dickThat was true five years ago, but the new CEO is apparently annoyed with how long it's taking them to make a game. Remember last Christmas when they were crunching to get an internal demo done? You don't crunch for that unless a powerful exec says 'I want to see a fucking vertical slice before the end of the year.'
>>741262218What contractors? Bungie really had over a thousand employees back in 2021. It's one of the reasons Microsoft looked at them and said 'yeah, no' when Bungie was hiking up its skirt to attract buyers.
>>741256379Marathon more like sprintACK!!!!
>>741256709Literally what other game, that will release this year, is gonna waste even more production money?GTA is getting delayed, get real.
>>741260963Sony would rather kill SantaMonica before touching his dear Jewman
more tranny artstation hires would've saved bungie
>>741262372Sony killing any of its Californian studios would be unthinkable before it kills every other studio outside of Cali first. They're headquartered there, and a lot of those studios are in the same buildings as the publishing people. Everything outside of Cali would burn before they'd consider shutting down stuff on the home front.
>>741262369Wolverine? Shit's been in dev hell for almost a decade.
>>741262430This. Just throw another billy to the fire, that should straighten them out.
>>741258730>>741252639compared to tarkov all bungie games are casual slop.
>>741262638Man I hope it flops, but knowing normalfags, it will sell millions.
>>741262553I know Sony's Playstation branch is in California, are they still connected to the larger Sony Corporation in Japan? I never really understood this business stuff.
>>741262553Maybe. I thought the same thing when Ubisoft started with the mass layoffs. Yet they let studios like Red Storm operate without any guff. Who is making these decision??
>>741262793Sony Interactive Entertainment (Sony's gaming division) is headquartered in California, but used to be headquartered in Japan. I think it only moved to the US back in 2015 or so. It has studios across the world, but the HQ is in Cali. Sony Group, the big parent company, is still HQ'd in Japan.>>741262831Ubisoft isn't really comparable to Sony, because Ubisoft does this retarded business model where they have 15000 employees in studios all over the world, and each studio does a little work on one game, instead of each studio just making its own games. So when Ubi does layoffs, the usual thinking of 'that studio's game didn't do well, so we're closing them' doesn't apply.
Troongie deserves to die. See, this is just one example: >>741257867design works best when it has to work with limitations, but trannies do not want to acknowledge reality, they just want to expose their true self >>741257593 and as a result they produce troonslop.hire troons -> go under. as shrimple as that
>>741252639The most hilarious part is that it also had tons of DEI, nobody cared and still played. They fucked up.
>>741252317I still cannot believe Sony flushed $3.5B on this washed up studio
>>741252317I'm just ecstatic that destiny is finally dead and hopefully marathon takes bungie with it the rest of the way. I hold a grudge for Halo ruining shooters for almost 10 years, fuck bungie.
>>741252317I bet if they just fire every person with danger hair they won't even notice a drop in productivity
>>741258038Except the opposite of what my perceived enemy is doing would be hagmaxxing
>>741255325>. destiny is way more costly to maintain than marathonIt makes far more money than Marathon>they struggled getting content out even before the multiple rounds of layoffsThey've been making Marathon for like 5-6 years while Destiny 2 was live. They took a massive amount of resources away, making Destiny 2 worse [for no reason]. It quite literally is Marathon destroying Bungie.
>>741252317kek maratroon is still going
>>741264029>They took a massive amount of resources away, making Destiny 2 worse [for no reason].Cope, but funny if true.
>>741252317blastbros...
>>741264610>cope>despite bungie saying they can't maintain two games at the same timelol go away maratroon
>>741264857Yes, that's why destiny got the boot.
>>741264960Which means they couldn't maintain D2's level of quality while creating Marathon. So Marathon ruined everything.
>>741264610You do realize that revenue is at minimum 8 times more than what Marathon made, right?
>>741254754I love how you people act like Bungie hasn’t been operating on the red since the Activision split. D2 was on the verge of getting shutdown if not for Sony. D2 is literally a black hole of investment. Marathon with its tiny community of whales is a million times more profitable than D2 ever was, and ever could’ve been. There is a reason there is more devs pivoting to extraction shooters than whatever the fuck D2 was.
oh no if only the modern audience were in the room with them
>>741252317The bungie cord is getting cut...
>>741265003That level of quality?
>>741265061>Marathon has a tiny community of whalesWhat is this insanity?>Marathon is a million times more profitable than D2 ever wasLOLMarathon is still hundreds of millions in the red, you retard. It's not made a profit. Destiny made infinitely more money in its lifetime and yeah, at the end of its life, it was probably in the red as well, but it still made far more than Marathon ever will.
>>741252317If they lay off that many then they’ve accepted that Marathon isn’t gonna have some big turnaround since that’s under what Bungie needed for the taken king over a decade ago, that’s just turning bungie into a smaller studio in general
Destiny 3>expect grandiose cinematic campaigns>expect pvp system + maps>expect multiple open world zones + events>expect dungeons and raids>expect graphical fidelity increase over previous gameMarathon>pvp system + mapsDoesn't take a genius why they went to a repeatable PvP focus game.
>less people than before the free weekend LOL
>>741265061Actually D2 was a flop even during the activision days.
>>741265379It probably sold well in terms of unit numbers, but it would still have been a commercial disappointment if you're Activision because of how expensive Bungie was.
>>741265157This level of quality.
>>741265374>Destiny 2 is just a deadcat bouncelmao going to go play SRL
>>741265374Funniest shit was the free server test to up the numbers and pretend that many people will play the game lmao
>>741265442Because it’s been vaulted so long people think it was really good but the red war was actually pretty bad and it’s silly that forsaken isn’t higher
is there a bigger proof that nobody likes your game?
>>741265519Your singular opinion is worthless.
Okay I'll bite.What the fuck is an "extraction shooter" and why is it worth my time?
>>741265374Your game is still dead though, mogged by the little number. Nothing will bring it back. Tell me how that feels, im curious.
>>741252317GAME IS DOING GREAT!
>>741265673>what's an extraction shooterIt's a PVP game where you collect loot and then have to leave the map through an extraction zone or method, which becomes a tense PVP fight because other players can kill you and take your shit. >why is it worth my time?Marathon isn't, but if you like extraction games, give Arc or Division 2 a try. (Division 2 has extraction PVP in its optional content areas.)
>>741265673>What the fuck is an "extraction shooter"You're dropped on a map with a timer and you have to extract to keep your loot that you gather/infilled in.>why is it worth my time?That's the neat thing. It's not.
>>741256705Dude the report from 2 months ago doesnt even mention destiny a single time
>>741252639They had dollar signs in the eyes. "Tarkov is the next Fortnite, and we're going to be the first AAA to market in the genre." They thought they were hitting a new megatrend early, and instead they were hitting a fad on the tail end of its viability. Literally the worst possible scenario.
THIS is how we save marathon!!!
>>741258874Even the biggest marathon shills are finally admitting the game was a financial flop, why cant you
>>741252317Not cool. At least keep everyone behind Marathon. The robot heads or at least 1 was cool in Destiny. And the hoverbikes. Other than that it was ass. 1&2. 2 seems worse than 1 but that may have just been my experience. Like there seems no progression. It's just wtf and somehow you end up in a level, but it's DLC.
>>741266113It's funny because trend chasing can totally work, but not when your product takes half a decade to make and the trend dies out before your shit releases.
>>741265673>What the fuck is an "extraction shooter" and why is it worth my time?oldschool runescape wilds the game
>>741265741havin a blast
>>741266153I think you're talking to someone who just hates Destiny for some reason. The guy has an autistic grudge against it to the point of taking a dozen screenshots of guns in an attempt to say 'see, it's ugly.' Maybe he applied for a job at Bungie and didn't get it or something.
>>741252317>spend 100 billion on studio>fire everybody a year laterJapan handing control of Snoy over to commiefornia faggots was the biggest mistake they ever made since Pearl Harbor.
>>741266321What those two events have in common?Well documented instances of Jewish influence.
>>741256705The misinformation surrounding this game is actually wild.>game is woke1/10 on the woke detector. Meanwhile D2 got an actual Trans character in the game (Nimbus), and everybody else is either gay or lesbian.>stolen artLiterally some decals stolen by a jeet intern. The troon artist was even compensated.>impairment lossAll D2’s fault. Marathon was just some scribbles on a white board.Whatever helps the narrative i suppose.
Why didn't they just add a monthly sub to D2 or something. They could try this eventually with D3 because I do think Sony is going to eventually throw in the towel with Marathon and start D3 sooner rather than later. >monthly $10 sub>bi-yearly expansions>other cosmetic shit>basically just the WoW/XIV modelwoah its that easy to make Destiny profitable? You can hire me Bungie and I won't even charge the $300k a year Commiefornia paycheck, I'll work remote for $150k a year. Oh yeah and move the fucking studio somewhere cheaper already.
>>741252317But I thought it was doing well. Who would have thought that they lied.
>>741266738>monthly subCringe.If we're going to have D3 bungie should only be in charge of the gameplay design and have ALL the arts being produced by japanese artists. Or even just asian artists, really.
>>741266551Oh hey, I haven't seen an actual Marathon shill in a while. Let's dismantle your deceptive bullshit, shall we?>Marathon might be woke, but Destiny 2 is more wokeBoth are woke, and Destiny 2 being aggressively woke just reinforces that Marathon is woke because it's the exact same developer.>muh some decalsIt was a fair number of decals, designs, and other elements. Remember, the scandal was so large and bad that the game got indefinitely delayed (at first), then missed its release day by half a year while they fixed things.>impairment loss is all Destiny 2No, because Marathon was in development before Sony even bought them. Marathon had lots of cost bloat at the end where they added more Destiny devs and outsourcers to get the game fixed and out in time for Sony's deadline of March.Now kindly kys for both being dishonest and doing it in service of fucking nuMarathon.
>>741265061>Marathon with its tiny community of whales is a million times more profitable than D2 ever was, and ever could’ve beenMaratards are literally inventing new realities to shill their slop, it's incredible. How can marathon be 'more profitable' than ANYTHING, when it's been in the red since day 1 you absolute fucking troglodyte?
>>741265673>What the fuck is an "extraction shooter" full loot PvP is hilariously the conclusion of dumbfying things for casuls. it lets them "exist" in a game for 30 mins, they can chat and strategize but everything is low stakes at the very long start. then suddenly, they find themselves in a fight where they will either progress or go back to doing nothing at the matchmaking screenif you're an indie developer trying to make the next hit come up with a game where the player does as little as possible while still feeling accomplished over as many people as possible, while also taking as many resources from them as possible>and why is it worth my time?it is not
>>741267042people pay like $30 a month to play Warframe with all the boosters and shit. Destiny is a dad MMO-lite of course people will pay $10 a month.
>>741267063>Both are woke, and Destiny 2 being aggressively woke just reinforces that Marathon is woke because it's the exact same developer.That's not how it works lil bro. Just because playstation california is woke doesn't mean that all PS5 owners are faggots.
>>741258239Yes. because it costs a fraction of the cost to make, puts consoles in the hands of parents, and overral is a brand builder. another god of war or Horizon tranny dawn game doesn't do that. Sure, maybe on paper they tell you they sold another 5 million copies of those games, despite the fact they went on 50% discount at retail stores 4 months later.
Fun fact, Destiny was never a good game and neither is Warframe
>>741265061>I love how you people act like Bungie hasn’t been operating on the red since the Activision split.They were making close to $300 million a year from the eververse. The only reason they were "in the red" is because they were burning their money on 6 different projects and over expanded.
>>741267323As far as we know they've seen little returns on them at all though. Yes, they're brand builders but we can point to people not even knowing who Kat was when quizzed about it a few years back. I completely grasp that these are smaller budgets so the expectation for a return is smaller, but it seems like to them they want stuff that are a bare minimum million sellers and anything else is a major risk. Ever since the PS4 happened that's been their modus operandi.
>>741267220>just because this dev studio where all the devs who worked on Marathon were was super woke doesn't mean that Marathon is woke!Do you understand how retarded that sounds? All of the Marathon devs were Destiny 2 devs that got moved over back when development started. The Marathon devs had the same retarded pronouns in their dev interviews too, until just recently when it became desperation mode for the game to get new customers.Marathon not being as offensively woke as Destiny 2 (which was honestly at parody levels of woke) doesn't change them having George Droyd or the whole 'everyone's in genderless robot bodies, which could be either male or female consciousnesses' postmodernist shit.
>>741267391Just because you don't enjoy it personally doesn't mean its a bad game. I tried Warframe and decided the grinding wasn't really for me, but its objectively a great game for people who like grinding.
>>741265673DayZlite
>>741265343Destiny 3>would make hundreds of millions a year for the next 5-10 yearsMarathon>loses moneyRetard.
>>741267585realistically they have to find a way to make Destiny cheaper to produce content for and more profitable. I think the only 2 paths forward for Bungo is D3 or studio shut down. Marathon's done.
>>741267465Hate the art not the artist. Something something Hitlers paintings.>doesn't change them having George Droyd or the whole 'everyone's in genderless robot bodies, which could be either male or female consciousnesses' postmodernist shit.Shells have clearly defined male/female genders though. Even with them being synth bodies.
>>741267708Go back to your containment board, tendie
>>741267708This is how you properly design a female character
>>741267826
>>741267681D2 made more than enough money to cover it's costs. People keep seeing that retarded community managers posts about how Bungie was struggling before Sony's buyout and conflate that to mean Destiny was just sooooo expensive and unmanageable but the reason was Bungie greenlit a whole bunch of projects alongside Marathon that all fell through.
>>741267714>Hitler analogy alreadyWow, you really don't belong here.>shells have gendersYes, and that's one of the contributing 'it's woke' indicators where they have very obviously 'that's a black man', 'that's an asian woman,' 'that's an anorexic white guy maybe', with the black guy being positioned first for no reason on the class select screen. There's no reason they couldn't have been faceless, genderless mannequin type bodies with future shit helmets and face masks like some of the classes have. >>741267894>the retarded ex community manager's postsShe's clearly fishing for relevance and trying to audition for a job. What the fuck does a community manager do when you get laid off? Nothing, because your only marketable skills are 'I play defense for my company,' but you aren't skilled enough to do actual marketing work in a real company.
>>741267460In the case of gravity rush I agree, I bought it when it got remastered for ps4 but, c'mon really it's a vita game and the vita sales were already so low it's to be expected. the ps4 remaster had a really small print run anyway. So I think using gravity rush as a signalling point falls a little short.
>>741267957>She's clearly fishing for relevance and trying to audition for a job.One of the former lead developers even came out and said she doesn't know jack shit and is just saying things for attention.
>>741267220>doesn't mean that all PS5 owners are faggots.That's the neat thing, they are
>SNOY PAID 3.6 BILLION FOR THIS FAIL OF A COMPANYLOLMAO
>>741268164I think she's been BTFO by Tassi as well by this point, too.
>>741252317But I don't understand? Everyone told me it was a success? I had a blast?
>>741268291It was a success in all ways except>commercial>experiential>artistic
>>741267957>There's no reason they couldn't have been faceless, genderless mannequin type bodies with future shit helmets and face masks like some of the classes have.They wanted to distance themselves from Destiny as much as possible and the opposite of raceless, faceless blank slates is gay space clowns
I'll have a BLAST for every dev fired
>>741268341>They wanted to distance themselves from Destiny as much as possibleYou say that as if it was a bad thing.
>>741268341The destiny characters are almost always behind helmets (for players), and the NPC characters with faces are the normal, usually expressive AAA 3D models.>gay space clownsThat I agree with for Marathon's characters.
It's all your fucking fault. You guys poisoned the well before Marathon even came out. You didn't even give it a chance. Instead, you were all looking for your next TORtanic to throw into your Concord meme folder. You people are the reason so many talented developers are losing their jobs. You write games off before they're released, then celebrate when they fail. And when studios shut down and people lose their livelihoods, you act like it's all just another joke. You are part of the reason this industry—and this world—is in such a terrible state..
>>741268054Gravity Rush 2 was advertised with the PS4 Pro and at E3 front and center and as far as we know it did something like 500k-700k max. That's with everything going for it.
>>>/vg/570899431 ?
>>7412686142/10. Do better next time.
Still gonna play comfy marathon rounds after work while destiny cuck are whining online :)
You would think that after fromsoft was allowed to brutally cut down bluepoint devs in the street as they fled from their burning office building, people would have thought to make some kind of exit strategy in the event the axe fell on them as well.
what are those 4500-5000 people doing during maintenance? if one of you are in this thread, please tell me
>>741267957>There's no reason they couldn't have been faceless, genderless mannequin type bodies with future shit helmets and face masks like some of the classes have. They want to represent that they are dressing their gear like a literal skin, which is why they have so many face elementsAnd the security officer in the original game was also a battleroid with open lips
>>741252317good news*
>>741267708Left should be Crackhead Katt.
>management wastes millions on five incubation projects to inflate the company price, two of which were apparently mobile games etc>four of which get quietly cancelled>mangement also blow millions on car collections, construction work etc>management also says no to destiny 3 despite destiny 2 already becoming an aging game that is a pain to work with>well okay, at least you'll have a side game to destiny's main offerings>it's development barely affects destiny, 2 of the best expansions (witch queen, final shape) come out during its development>destiny 2's main story ends, people leave the game>the next 2 dlcs are ass, more people leave the game>due to high development costs and low players, cancel destiny 2 updates going forward>you're now stuck with an extraction shooter that was always intended to be the side game being promoted to the main game (a position it was never intended or built to be in) and a casual live service MMO dead on the floor because management fucked you over>sony now puts you on the chopping block and half of management are gonna leave when the last of their paychecks from the buyout happenseveryone loses
>>741252317>Sony lays down a huge amount of runway money for Marathon>Bungie still ends up cutting a fuckload of staffWhat's insane is that this isn't even the first time this has happened since Sony bought them.
Maybe they will finally learn to code this time lol
>>741275130>Witch Queen>GoodNothing more to read
Think of how much money they'd save by laying off 100% of their staff.
>>741252317>RumorlolWhy would they lay off anyone after the massive success of Marathon?
>>741255593Bungie's been expelled from 109 offices.
>>741275712I don't like it either but maybe i'm a contrarian
>>741256930>The free update for the free game must have brought lots of money for sure!Good idea, anon. Let's look at the money. You retard.
3,894 players right now.We're so back.
>>741254120And they would have sold a total of 200k copies combined.
how hard are Sony and the remaining bungie employees shitting bricks over the player numbers?
>>741257030It's a sony first party game so it has to be defended with your lifeblood.Pair it with the visuals that only neurodivergents could feel attracted to and you got some of the most rabid fangirls(male) defending this gaas slop.
>>741252639Everybody is thinking the same thing:How do we copy the popular thing, and make it more accessible to (people who don't give a good god damn about videogames and never will).The fact they get funding to do this, makes their decision easy
>>741257765>Instead those IPs will be thrown into the graveyard never to be seen againHey man in Astrobot 2 you will wear a Destiny skin for 5 seconds and you will clap.
>>741262761>that one onions journalist that straight up said wolverine was boriingIdk, any high scores from wolverine or god of woke are 100% paid.
>>741263423I think the funniest thing ever was like the week they bought it, bungie was tweeting out pro abortion shit and got mad at someone telling them>there's no issue with you having a opinion or view but please keep it on your personal twitters and use the bungie one for video games. Only to be met with>THIS IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN VIDEO GAMES!
>>741252317raped studio raped game
>3890 on steamLet me check my ps5 (I did earlier today to make a point) Not anywhere near the top selling/popular section. Any xbros want to let me know if it's doing hot on their platofrm?
FLOP FLOP FLOPGO BANKRUPT
>>741279937Nope,>gears e day>mw4>black op 7>minecraft>roblox>gta 5and sports games
>AAA sloppa floppa left and right>meanwhile this hide and seek game has sold over 3 million copieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-65m9poaSY&t=22slmao
I only play chinese games
>>741280005>game that does something unique no other game has done before and is cheap as shitvs>the same fucking games that everyone else already made but dressed up in different shades of diarrhea shit also that will be 70 bucks please
chances for them to remake/remaster destiny 1 as a last ditch effort?
>>741252317blast status?
>>741280265None.
>>741255971$200M due to Destiny initially.Next quarter, $550M due to both Destiny and Marathon.Can hatersissies not count?
>>741256593>yet Sony waited until after the maraslop launch numbers and initial sales before issuing itThat's how fiscal reports work anon...
>>741277625Marathon also hit top 10 with way less players kekw. So many blasts being had on Dickstiny
>>741252317this is so tragic. west has an abundance of incredible programmers, artists, and designers, but because of incredibly bad management and people who are put in charge of big projects, grunts aren't allowed to make fun video games. these retards think they've got a mission from "god" or universe to rid the world off racism, sexism, transphobia, misogyny, etc. so they force this stupid activism slop into the games, which nobody sane wants to play. these idiots literally hate their customers; they hate people who love video games, which is only a thing in the video game industry in the west. until they figure this shit out, I will keep financing chink gachas and giving my money to studios in the east that understand my hobby and treat me with respect. bungie deserved an even worse fate, fuck them.
>>741280005>$5 friendslop sold way more copies lmaoWhen you are so buckbroken that you have to find a victory by any means GEEEEEEEG
>>741280208>also that will be 70 bucks pleaseis that in rupees? because the game costs 40 bucks baseline
why didn't they just do a new regular marathon game
>>741280296not having
>>741280545>i'm not crying you're crying>i don't care but i care enough to post
>>741280692Because that doesn't sell 40 million copies, with live service income for a decade
>>741254754No, they slipped on a banana peel and accidentally stumbled into the giant red button that kills destiny they have in their office. What do you think, retard?
>>741280735did you reply to the right anon?
I wish the indian chick was in charge of Snoy, not MS xbox. She would've raped this lame excuse for a game studio and the world would've healed a little
>>741280824>No, they slipped on a banana peel and accidentally stumbled into the giant red button that kills destiny they have in their officeI believe that this happened
>i was just pretending to be retarded
>>741280824>No, they slipped on a banana peel and accidentally stumbled into the giant red button that kills destinyThis is quite genuinely how execs seem to be making decisions these days
fuck it where do i pirate the original marathoni'm curious now
>>741280968>pirate>original Marathonanon...
>>741280501 +1.When I wonder why companies who make a product hire people who hate the customers I think it is as somebody earlier cited: "entropy." There is something to the idea that humans, and especially women, are susceptible to the universe's innate need to destroy itself. It's why they so often want some level of catastrophe to battle against, and will create it when it is not available. I think that the ancients recognized entropy and called it Satan.
>>741255798you're missing the part where sony WANTED to make woke slopthis isn't an unfortunate accident
>>741254940They thought it'll take 10 games to get 1 Fortnite but it's more like 30-40 games to get 1 Fortnite. Like, can you even name other games that aren't Mihoyoslop that are as big as Fortnite live services? You cant really spend 100 mil on 30-40 games
>>741281029i'm curious to see what they plundered to inspire this mess, if nothing else
>use Destiny money to fund 5 flop projects instead of just funding Destiny>call Destiny too expensive to maintain>Destiny starts falling apart due to lack of investment>kill it>now have zero money making gamesbrilliant
>>741280545>maratroonie shit eater calling anything slopLMAOOO
>>741281228search 'aleph one'enjoy
>>741252317Best news I've seen all year.
>>741281398>brings up troons>strawmanhaters ain't sending their best today...
>>741281631you will never be a woman btw
>troontroontroontroonThese threads are always a delight to read. Did anyone mention indians yet? (rheotical question)
>>741281928lol troon ack yourself
>>741281094exactly. but I also view entropy and order as a yin and yang thing; life in the universe wouldn't be possible without entropy. even after you take a dump, a flower might bloom from it. a lot of good shit came from creative chaos, one good example is OG re4.
>>741280405yes, confirming that it was attributed to marathon this time you fucking retard
>>741280501What activism? What are you talking about? D2 is the trannygame and they're killing it off
>>741257057so many blasts! why would bungie and sony throw away such a blast generator?
>>741257245Dickstiny also got beaten my Marathon's Lux bundle on S2 launch lmao
>>741281228I think its free on steam, but yeah, you can find a community mod
>>741282459I think the nature of the problem may be different in this case, as it is chaos that is created from within. As in Star Trek, chaos is only manageable when it is extrinsic. If it's produced internally then it's not only a parasitic thing - but it's actually parasitoid. Otherwise I agree with you. So much (maybe even the majority) of great art come from man's struggle against circumstance and chaos. But I'm beginning to believe that we have to distinguish the nature of chaos because certain forms of it just eat things away.
>>741252639they could have easily made marathon a spin off game like beyond citadel and made destiny 3 and would have made bank
>>741282584>destiny top 3 global revenue on a free patch>maraslop top 150 on season 2lol, lmao cope harder sissy
>>741252317Privileged western devs should just accept they aren't entitled to a job
They will rise and fallThrough prayer and humilityI am forever
Its funny because I played 7/8 hours of the Marathon free trial, I actually enjoyed it but I didnt want to spend 20 euro to buy it. I could easily afford it but just on principle of it probably going f2p and the questionable long term support, I wasnt arsed.
Good morning!
>>741284653They're the same guys that laughed at blue collar workers being laid off and mockingly told them to "learn to code."So I will show them the same sympathy they showed others.
>>741284565>destiny top 3 global revenue on a free patchIt is not
UPDATE:Another game journalist suggests the incoming layoffs are gonna be really bad, with many leaders leaving too
>>741252639Retarded ass game devs too full of their own shit thinking that THEY can single handedly beat the noise and that they will be successful where everyone else failed....... despite literally EVERYONE shouting from the rooftops that Marathon was doomed to fail months before the game even launched. Pure fucking hubris.
>>741286071We all know that techbros will still be insufferably arrogant and just double down on woke instead of learning their lesson.
>>741286038>>741257187this screenshot is literally from the global sales list, which is a previous-24h total revenue generated under the parent title. It's in the exact reply chain you're a part of marasissy
I was lost, once... I did not understand. Floating aimlessly without purpose. But then I realised. Something breathtakingly glorious! The rape of Bungie... The layoffs that will happen are an echo of that truth. You and I will rape Bungie when their end comes. Their end is inevitable.
>>741252317>[TERRIBLE NEWS]Don't you mean, "terrific" news?
>>741252317These probably won't even be the last round of lay offs. Marathon is still not picking up players lmao
>>741286125>cherrypicks D2's best day a week ago and Marathon's worst day todayKEKAROOOOOO. D2 is currently #13. Fucking Marathon managed to sell better (#10) at 28k CCU.If you AFK on D2 enough, Sony might actually greenlight D3. Keep going.
>>741286574anon, destiny is actually #16 on steam
>>741286428Stop reminding me they made Calus a generic black spook mook in Shitefall.
>>741286574it's so tiresome
>>741286984>everyone who disagrees with me is a leftistthe raped
To this day, I still believe the theory that Sony thought Bungie still owned Halo when they acquired them
>>741287245>pretending not to understand factual financial information means marathon is successful
Extraction shooters seem like the kind of game that is perpetually edging upon being a successful genre if it wasnt for the fact people say they like pvp but really what they like are completely one sided stomps.
Extraction shooters, like Battle Royales and MOBAs if I'm being very honest work better as side game modes in already existent games rather than as entirely separate stand alone entities.
>>741286574>game came out this year>only #10grimhow's the playercount?
>>741266113They got BTFO by arc raiders that provided that more casual feel normies needed
>>741287526extraction shooter is just regular PvP but aims to waste your time, win or lose. like marathon is literally just apex legends, but you're wasting time collecting a lot of shit that you won't even get to keep anyways. there's no real endgame to the gameplay loop.i'd rather just play a more focused PvP game without the fluff. this genre would probably work better for co-op PvE imo
>>741267708Both are ugly whats your point?Anime just has big eyes and no nose and you guys cum in your pants for it
>>741286574Look at the little Marasissy so desperately fighting for its life. Don't worry you will be gaped soon enough.>https://steamdb.info/stats/globaltopsellers/>Destiny 2 #13>Marathon #215Ha! No wonder you are lashing out on /v/ because a dead game is out performing Maraflop. Though I like it when you get all worked up, makes the rape all the more sweeter.
>>741285835More people were playing Rogue Trader after the new dlc than this. Thats wild
>>741288086>selling worse than Marathon did at 1/4thof the CCU on S2's launchuh oh... Blastinycucks? Should I sign the D3 petition?
Bungie is gay. I hope they die.
>>741252317get fucked I hope they lose their houses too
>>741288249Look at this gaped one, thinking I want D3. I want Bungie's total annihiliation. Did you so quickly forget what the other anon posted with its position at #2? I could explain to you how top sellers works but I think you are too deluded after being gaped so wide that you simply can't or won't understand, if you did it would shatter your entire view and you'd have no choice but to kill yourself. But your feeble futile struggle is most entertaining please continue little Marasissy.
>>741286071I wasn't sure about the rumor because I had never heard of the person before, but if Tassi corroborates that claim I believe it.
>>741287632How do you do MOBA as a side game mode? The RTS genre is already dead
>>741278898So around double of Marathon?
I have now been on /v/ for long enough that I can somewhat-accurately gauge a game's quality by it's shilling - it's magnitude and overall tone (How heavily is it being discussed? Is the discussion engaging, or just obnoxious? How do they respond to backlash and criticism?).Marathon never stood a chance. It's far too easy to see how cultish, desperate, and inorganic the "community" was from the get-go.
>>741289019cope
>>741289184You already are.
>>741289259>this high-budget game only sold 100k copies. its only being kept around because... it just is, ok?
>>741276067Sony would be at least twice as profitable with their Playstation division if they just entirely got rid of all their first party studios and just leeched mtx revenue like Valve does. All their first party studio games barely if even break even. Even Spiderman 2 despite selling like 10 million copies likely barely broke even.
>>741289470It's interesting how you would hold a position that requires absolute ignorance about budgeting and player retention. You don't even understand why you don't understand - you just point to a number that's big on its own without understanding the difference.Are you an actual third worlder, or is this just another case of selective ignorance?
>KEKAROOOOOOI actually got secondhand embarrassment from that.
Where are the 200K discord members?
where's that leftist who kept spamming "the chuds lost, you said two weeks" because Marathon isn't shut down yet?
>>741290347When you're the sort of person that can narrate text in your own head with different voices, then posts like his come across as especially deranged and ridiculous.
>>741281353This. Destiny was only "unsustainable" because Pete Parson and the Bungie board of directors decided to run a business model that made it "unsustainable" in an attempt to inflate company value to get a bigger sale when he finally found a mark stupid enough to buy the studio in the state he was leaving it in. Literally the most well received and most successful eras of Destiny 2 were all eras where Bungie delayed their yearly expac (or had 3rd party support) and surprise surprise, when Bungie was given 18 months to 2 years to make an expansion instead of just 12 months they were CONSISTENTLY rewarded with high praise and higher player counts. All you needed was a business model that allowed for consistently great products and content and the players would come, it shouldn't be rocket science to figure out how the Witch Queen left Destiny in the best shape it was in before it all came crashing down thanks to a rushed Lightfall that crushed the momentum the game had. The problem is that to realize this model requires a commitment to long-term planning, which is anathema to US corporate culture of short-term gains and "fuck you, got my bag" mentality.
look at the features and content halo 3 launched with compared to marathon.
>>741285992you might visit them at your local McDonald's.
>>741252639The funny thing is really that extraction shooters never were mainstream enough to warrant becoming this hype genre everyone tries to wrestle in on only to fail.
>>741252639My personal theory is twofold:They saw the massive twitch and pop culture appeal their day one raids had and wanted to tap into the streamer market full-stop, and thought Marathon would be their gateway in.And Bungie is such an arrogant company they thought they could shit low effort gold and get away with dropping Destiny. They genuinely thought that Marathon would be the next Apex or Arc Raiders type hit simply because they're Bungie
>>741267708AAA hair is literally worse than what you'd see in your local supermarket at 3AM.
Wait I was told everyone was having a blast playing marathon. Were they lying?
>>741254120>they could have made more pozzed sequels to decent seriesNah, I'm glad they're eating huge losses with this kek
>>741252757>because reviving the literal precursor to HaloThis Marathon has nothing in common with the original except the name.>turning into Apex Legends with Tarkov shit glued to it made the most senseTarkov and extraction shooters are highly unpopular, though. There are no extraction shooters that print money. The most popular one is maybe Hunt: Showdown, which is also extremely niche. Arc Raiders doesn't apply, since it was announced not even a year ago and released late 2025, which means the game they spent 6 or so years working on was not impacted by it at all. This is in the wake of Hyenaz, a high budget extraction shooter which was cancelled in 2023 when SEGA said "this is fucking gay and fucking stupid, can it.">a bunch of old people in a boardroom decided to trend-chaseThere is no evidence to suggest that anyone wanted more extraction shooters. There were no popular extraction shooters. There were no demands for extraction shooters. It is more likely that everyone is plugged into some nutty-ass consultant that told executives that they should make extraction shooters laced with faggy shit.
>>741259913Blasting off as a financial failure, only reason the Maraslop servers are still up is because the Sony cucks don't want to another Concord scenario on their hands!
>>741292880They made Marathon because Pete and the board of directors wanted to sell the studio, and wanted to present the studio as a multi-game and multi-IP studio in order to inflate the asking price for the sale of the studio. It's the exact same reasoning why the Zenimax board of directors had Bethesda announce ES6 when it was in no stage of actual development at an E3 press conference and tasked them to create a live service Fallout game and rushed it out the door as they did. They did this because at the same time that Zenimax made these announcements, they were looking for a buyer. Corporate executives are nothing more than modern era snake oil salesmen who found that you can avoid being publicly hanged in the streets by focusing on conning only the wealthy as there's far less of them to form a mob or toss a pipe bomb through the window of their gated community.
>>741252317I guess Bungie being trans positive and inclusive meant they're an equal opportunity employment terminator.
>>741287503In fairness to the Marathon shills, this is the ONLY way Marathon can be successful
>>741290642Xer is out, feverishly buying a month's supply of SSRIs to help with the upcoming cope that is going to be required.
>monetization model for IP has been broken for the better part of a decade>actually manage to find a publisher to pay your bills and wipe your ass to course correct>but they want an extraction shooter and also take a few of your devs to make a smaller studio>only put a fraction of your devs on the extraction shooter to focus on your broken product which you continue to fuck up on>it finally fucking sinks and you have to release the extraction shooter now>you immediately start sabotaging it and siphoning resources back to your broken mtx model product, refuse to monetize the extraction shooter properly, use its launch quarter to churn out one last steaming update for your broken game>only guy who gives a fuck is from a different company so being a completely sane upstanding group you slander and mock him in leaks to journalists>oops too late your latest scam victim publisher finally had enough and your head's on the chopping blockive never seen such an entitled bunch of sniveling narcissists like this fucking company before I can't believe sony let them keep creative controlI don't even hate marathon but it's not a complete game and the plague rats running bungie clearly thought they could get away with fucking this games development over to do whatever they wanted
>>741280160>Gets censored
>>741277625going f2p kept the playerbase in destiny 2 stable but didn't sell a lot of xpac copies, neither did the bad news of them removing content so buying the complete pack for $20 is a no brainer even if you are a little interested and my friend activity is a stream of people buying it
>>741294352it's just mutts projecting their identify politics into the gaming industry, it's the only way they feel any sense of self anymore
>>741252317>at least[Uplifting News!]
>>741294709Anon, that graph up there is clearly showing that Destiny 2 is currently making way more money than Marathon to such an extend that even some of its DLCs are out-earning it. And that despite Destiny only being put very late on Steam. Retard.
>>741296698i was agreeing with you. retard.
>>741267880>>741267826and just like that I don't care about the cat girl manga anymore
