>FFVII Revelation director confirmed the underwater parts are still inBoy, I can't wait for this fight in glorious HD
I hope it's anothet weird and wild boss fight like Hellhouse was.
>>741256175I can already picture the cringe ass cutscene with yuffie flailing her arms wildly and yelling.
>>741256328i'm surprised it wasn't in the gold saucer already
>>741256175I want to see how horrifying the Gelnika enemies will be.
The sunken gelnika enemies really creeped me out as a kid. I remember one that looked like a dead horse head.
>good game gets divided into several crappy corridor walking simulators with hours of filler contentF
>>741256328I think I beat my head against Hell House on hard mode harder than any other encounter, even Weiss in the combat simulator. It took me a kind of embarrassing amount of time to realize you're supposed to be interrupting its attack animations with elemental weaknesses, so when you ordinarily might focus on dodging or blocking, you should really be attacking.
cant wait to get to rocket town and have cid tell shera to sit the fuck down and drink the goddman tea
>>741258436I haven't touched any of the remake stuff yet, are they seriously not at Rocket Town yet? What the fuck? Haven't there been like three games already and they're not even done disc 1?
>>741258698Part 1 starts and ends with Midgar.Part 2 starts at Kalm and ends at the City of the Ancients with Aerith's death.Apparently, they considered putting Rocket Town in Part 2 to match the original game, but decided to move it to Part 3 for better pacing.
>>741256418If the trex tank isn’t a thing that’ll be a mark off for me.
What enemies are missing from Remake and Rebirth?
>>741259357Pretty sure Tankceratops wasn't in Rebirth despite originally appearing around the ruined reactor in Gongaga
>>741259545Sadly, Tankceratops was replaced with the Maloceros. We know this is the Tankceratops because they both have the same Japanese name: Heavy Tank.
>>741256175One of the biggest mysteries of my childhood that I solved recently is what this guy's goannai attack meantTurns out it's just ご案内Like when you board the plane and they say お客様ご案内いたします
>>741259695FF7's localization was a thing of beauty.
>>741256175Sub chads we are feasting
>Playing the second one>Having a mostly good time>And amused at how hard that Stamp battle music went>Take the elevator up to Junon>Forget that was the Highwind reveal>Get up to the deck and keep trying to get closer>Just stand there and stare at the Highwind as it lazily bobs and flaps its control surfaces in the wind for like 20 minutesFuck, man. It sucks that people aren't so hot on this game. That Highwind looked incredible. I remember marveling at how cool the Highwind was as a kid. Being able to relive some of these memories I have with this game is a delight. Some of these reproductions just look so damn good and the detail they go into is wild. I love this shit.
>>741259195>pacing>in the demakesell oh ell
>>741256553Emerald Weapon Jump scare
>>741259932god the mere presence of this thing racked my fucking nerves when I was 10. cathartic finally beating him when I got older.
Apparently, some of the WEAPONS will remain optional. Which ones do you think will stay optional or mandatory?Ultima Weapon's obviously gonna be optional. It'd be cool if we got to fight Omega Weapon in this. I know that's a Dirge of Cerberus thing but I don't really care.
>>741259880I did the same. Same with taking my time in Bugenhagens house. If Part 3 gives me solo exploration of The City of the Ancients it will be a 10/10.
>>741259880What you're describing is the exact reason why people hate remake so vehemently. Because you constantly get glimpses of "Yes, if Square really wanted to, they could remake FF7 with modern graphics and cutscenes. No they will not do that, for the last time. Enjoy your time travel Expanded Universe slopfest." It's genuinely mind boggling. If they played it straight it would have, in fact, been the greatest game of all time.
>>741260061They already showed Sapphire WEAPON surviving the shot from the Junon canon that originally killed him, didn't they? I hope they keep that weird jungle area, or some kind of "level," that you unlock by doing an optional Ultima WEAPON fight like in the original. Honestly Rebirth was lacking in the pseudo-dungeon content IMO
>>741258436Kinda weird how they make Cid seem like a nice guy in Rebirth so it'll be weird see this version of him being all shitty
>>741259880>>741260086I'm with you, anons.
>>741260104thisit's like driving a supercar but it has wheel locks on 3 of the tires
>>741260178He's in customer service mode. Although you kinda have to remember that a lot of Cid's more abrasive and abusive elements were added by the English localization. Obviously, he's mean to Shera, but he's generally not that much of a hardass outside of that. Him swearing like a sailor was added to the English version.
>>741260061Boo. I want it to fly out of the corner of my eye the entire game only to dissappear constantly keeping me in a constant state of low level anxiety.
I drew Tifa and Elena wrestling with Aerith refereeing>>741260152It's Ancient Forest and you can reach it by killing Ultima Weapon who explodes making a path to the forest or by using any mountain climbing able chocobo. The biggest treats of Ancient Forest is Slash All materia turning your regular attack to target all enemy targets and Apocalypse sword for Cloud, the sword having Triple AP growth. You can also pick Typhoon summon materia there to get Master Summon materia once you had mastered all summon materias and there's also Minerva Band for Tifa/Yuffie (only female can wear it)
>>741260178I hope they play it as Aeriths death hurt him and seeing Shera's stupid passive aggressive face sends him over the edge.
>>741259690>>741259545In spanish (rebirth), the enemy is called Triceratanque which is basically Triceratank, so yes
Is there an image or anything comparing all of Remake and Rebirth's enemies to their original FF7 versions?
>>741260104Nah, fuck off, the entire point is to have the wonder intact and make curious on how everything will end up, and to discover how much some things dont change or some things change.
>>741260395Elena was a happy upgrade from the original
>>741260531There was for Remake but Rebirth has so much more enemies i dont think you can fit them in one pic to compare and it being readable
>>741260531They are out there. I'm impressed how faithful they have been.
>>741260531there are videoshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZS50x-YCF4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNs_7MQMQ_M&t
>>741260681I liked her but knowing her spot light was because Japanese voice actor for Reno died and they didnt hire a new guy for new lines and gave lot of Reno stuff to Elena soured it
>>741259853But will we be able to get the super secret red submarine?
What monsters do you think are edible? You think any might taste good?
>>741259932touch
>>741260647>BUT I WANT THE EXACT SAME ADVENTURE IN HDI get where those people come from since the OG is pretty awesome, but I imagine some of the changes were how the creators truly envisioned the scenes/battles considering the main guys are still working on it. And knowing exactly what will have, even if it's in super ultra HD, would become stale quicker than a partly new adventure for most is what I'm guessing they were thinking. I like a lot of the changes but of course there are things I don't care for that some people probably like. I deal with it cause I enjoy the overall game/story/characters. I've said it before though, Revelation will truly decide if this trilogy is a homerun or strikeout. It has a lot riding on it and a lot of ground to cover. That's why I'm thinking they have walked back on this being the final FF7 entry for awhile.
>St. Elmo's Firewhat did they mean by this
real talkis FF7 good? 100GB is too much to take up storage on Switch 2, so I am considering playing this old ass version
>>741261000Normally I would've thought that the changes to VII were a concession to fans who might've wanted more novel mainline FF while they were busy dedicating resources to remaking 7, so people sort of got both in a single form. But we got XVI AND Stranger of Paradise around this timeframe, so idk. Speaking of, SoP is only $16 currently.
>>741261202It's good and soulful but "clunky" for modern zoomer gamers. The remakes expect you to have played OG, watched Advent Children and knowledge on Crisis Core and Dirge of Cerberus
>>741261202What is your general exposure to RPGs that age
>>741256175How the hell is this going to work
>>741261345Nah, it's not that serious. Yes, there are references and allusions that you'd only be able to catch if you played the original game and experienced the Compilation, but I'd argue that almost none of it's really that important to understanding what's going on. I think the only game you REALLY need to have played is Crisis Core. Even then, I barely remember anything from that game and I don't care enough to replay it either, but it doesn't impact my enjoyment of Rebirth THAT much.Also I never played Dirge of Cerberus. I don't particularly want to play it. But I don't really need to have played that game either. All I really need to know is that Weiss is a strong Shinra fighter. Presumably, he'll have a minor role in Revelation. As long as they explain that he's a powerful SOLDIER, that's basically all we need.
>>741261985Yeah, I haven't played Crisis Core since release on PSP, so when people say you need to play it to have context for Zack's presence, I disagree. You just have to understand that this game's storytelling mechanisms are carrots on a string to pose certain questions that they only have an intention of fulfilling later; being confused at a given point doesn't mean shit, so long as you're keeping track of what's going on and bearing in mind that you'll probably get answers further down the line. That's just sort of how Final Fantasy works.
>>741261239It's probably cause of how great the OG looked. They tried to do the best of both worlds and make it unique. People shit on the quality in the remakes but the stuff that stood out in the original looks awesome most of the time. Again, expecting everything to be perfect (or someone's own idea of perfect for everything) is looking to be disappointed.
>>741262192>It's probably cause of how great the OG looked....Really? It wasn't exactly cutting edge even for a PS1 game.
So how are they going to handle superbosses in Revelation?Hard to make the final sephiroth climactic after them.
>>741262387They should do what the original game did and buff Sephiroth based on your completion. The more WEAPONS you defeat, the stronger he becomes.
>>741259690How is it possible to so masterfully make the most perfectly soulless decisions unerringly?
>>741262506They probably could have made the original design work if they moved it to Hojo's lab or something.
>>741260395i recognize your style
>>741262748I recognize your grace
>>741256175Will they still call him Safer, or will he get a new name like Bizarro/Rebirth/Reborn?
>>741263357Sepher Sephiroth like it was originally supposed to be.
Can’t wait for the unskipable 2 minute Sephiroth attack where he blows up the solar system and does math equations and shit
>>741263503Me neither.Unironicaly
>>741261345Nah. You can go into it blind and play that other stuff later if you want to notice the meta story that part 3 might clear up anyway.
>>741261345I liked the Yuffie DLC without playing Dirge.
>>741260061isnt diamond weapon the only mandatory one? there's a scripted ultima weapon fight but iirc all you have to do is survive long enough
>>741262159Zack died in the original. Zack didn't didn't die where he was supposed to in Remake.Now everyone is caught up. You don't need to play Crisis Core for any other reason. Why people keep suggesting it even though it spoils something huge will never make sense to me.
>>741262276This is bait
>>741263503>>741263547>like meteor in Remake where there's a countdown>if you don't kill him in time you're forced to watch the whole move play out>pausing is lockedIt'd be fitting.
>>741263357I always assumed it was supposed to be Seraph or something.
>>741263357He better still be shirtless
>>741262276Not exactly the character models, but I'd say just about everything else was pretty awesome. If the character models were the loss in favor of mostly everything else looking cool, I'd take that any day.>>741263926You'd think, but not everyone pays attention to detail. I recently played through it and some of the scenes still feel as great as the 1st time seeing them.>opening FMV alone>escaping Midgar>Sephrioth at the end of the flashback>the Zack flashback at the endIt's crazy the amount of soul and heart the game had.
>>741263717Yes and Diamond Weapon fight was added for US/EU release and only later included to Japan International version. Same with Emerald and Ruby weapons, and the FMV of Weapons awakening (Tifa tit bounce on Highwind out deck), the FMV of party getting on the truck in Shinra HQ and Cloud riding the motorcycle down the stairs and them crashing out the window. Also Zack flashback in Nibelheim mansion basemenet tubes were added, there's a scene of Zack mentioning Zack and Cloud could crash at Zack's girlfriend's place in Midgar until he remembers the girlfriend lives with her mother.
>>741262387The same way it worked in FFVII; he gets buffed stats based on what you've killed and your party's levels.
>>741261915>Emeral WEAPON blasts surrounding depths a full thousand feet perimeter>Fight has a time limit = closing perimeter>Fail to finish fight before limit = depths crash around you and WEAPON wins>Succeed to finish fight = you can board the submarine before water depths crash around you
>>741263717In Revelation, it appears that there's gonna be a lot more mandatory WEAPONs. My guess is that half the WEAPONs will be mandatory, while the other half with be optional superbosses.
>>741264774>revelation will most likely have a 5 weapon superboss gauntletholy fucking hype
>>741260647I'd be more inclined to agree with this sentiment if the changes they did do weren't some of the most retarded ass bullshit ever put into a professional piece of fiction
They should go all out and put all the bosses. Including Compilation shit. I wanna have Cloud beat up not just Sephiroth, but also Genesis and Weiss. The greatest SOLDIERs ever produced, and this literal who from the boonies crushes all of them.
>>741261801Legend of Dragoon, Chrono Trigger
>>741263357Jenova's final form out here looking zesty
>>741266128>People still think Sephiroth is just being controlled by Jenova
>>741265763I agree with part 1's changes being over the top, but part 2 genuinely toned it down. It seems like they listened to feedback at least a little. Don't get me wrong, there was a bunch of stupid changes, but they showed restraint. I agree with the sentiment that the changes are what keeps fans of the original invested to see what happens next. We're still getting recreations of most of the areas, and scenes, but the mystery of where things are going is intriguing. My favorite example is the Gi Natak thing after the Cosmo Canyon dungeon. Wasn't expecting to go to a whole new area, and it was legit cool.
Think we'll see Ziconiade?
We're almost definitely gonna fight Nero given what happened in Intergrade. And if Nero's coming back, then we'll probably fight Weiss again as well. Both should be relatively simple to implement since the basic foundations were already added in previous games. Genesis is a big question. We may or may not get to fight him. Zirconiade might be possible as a VR fight. Omega Weapon showing up early might fuck with Dirge of Cerberus, but let's be real, no one gives a shit about DoG and SE knows it.
That's where turn-based reigns supreme, making an underwater level in an action game is a bad idea, it's just going to feel sluggish, slow and bad.
>>741267953>Here guys, equip this special Materia that lets you breathe underwater and also move as if you're actually on land!Probably something silly like that.
Can materia be used for clean energy? Thunder materia seem like they can be used for that sort of thing.
>>741263357
>>741256175I haven't played the remake, but is the enemy "House" that opens it roof and drops a nuke on the team in the remake?
>>741270193It's a full blown boss in the Remake, a mechanized house that flies around and launches missiles and shit.
>>741270293Wow, I honestly thought they'd remove that enemy from the game. I always thought it was a pretty bizarre to be honest.
>>741270568realistic FF is lamethe old weird shit adds a lot of flavor
>>741270568They still managed to keep some of the weirder enemies, but not all of them escaped unscathed. The triceratops tank enemy got thoroughly nerfed.
>>741256175Underwater ubisoft towers confirmed
>>741261000Death of the fucking author.
I beat the game years ago and I really liked it, should I play the remake, this again or FFX? I have my ps2 for FFX and I guess I can pirate the remake, I just can't decide what to play
>>741266015if you liked those, then yes it is very good
>>741260786SOOOOOOOOOUL
>>741266240>people still think that's actually Sephiroth's body and not Jenova doing what jenova does
>>741260786i personally really liked OG FF7's battle art directionmonsters being mostly colored triangles approach with a handful of textured and alpha-blended triangles looked neatthe hyper realistic shit in the remakes makes me wretch
>>741256175m-maybe we'll see tifa wearing something like this
>>741277041Sephiroth's will overrode Jenova.
They didn't show the Highwind crew because it's going to be Shinra mommy commander.No Scarlet in the trailer because she's going to get jailed inside the Highwind after her boss fight.
>>741262387He always was anticlimactic when you kotr his ass. One shot brrrr
>>741259853>Sub chads we are feastingWe have barely seen even 1% of the game. This shit is going to be so good.
>>741259853I will be upset if SE doesn't reproduce this scene with Cloud in Revelation.
>>741279140I think what's gonna happen is we'll revisit past locations and recruit major NPCs from previous games. So not just the Shinra commander, but maybe even characters like Madam M and Beck.
>>741277604I don't get this mindset. Growing up, we used to always have discussions about how amazing games will look in 20+ years as technology improved.
>>741281834They're going to be inside the Highwind.Everyone but Aeris and Zack because they're permadead.
>>741281834The Highwind will act as a flying base, so pretty much.
>Prime Mode>High Berserk>Bravery>DarksideH|ow much more unga will Cloud become with FITS
>>741262387I never did work out the "proper" way to do that boss in pic. I think it was the only New Threat fight where I resorted to kotr mime cheese
>>741277041>and not Jenova doing what jenova doesIt must not be, because "what Jenova does" is copy your friends and family and infect you with the Jenova virus, and it didn't stop to do that even once.
>>741263992It's Sefer Sephiroth. As in the Book of Emanations, Sefer Sefirot, from which he gets his name.
>>741284140I'm excited to find out how FITS exactly works and how it affects gameplay. FITS could drastically improve combat flow and battle variety, if it each FITS setting not only has unique combat abilities, but also has customizable combat shortcuts and materia loadouts.
>>741256175The huge materia plot made no sense in the original though, so curious to if they keep it in the remake, or if there's another reason why we go to the underwater reactor
>>741286281It makes perfect sense and it's already been mentioned in Rebirth
>>741262387I've played FF7 like 10 times and I don't remember this thing
>>741286412It's from a mod lol
>>741286319Bugenhagan vaguely says it won't work in the OG. The whole stopping Shinra from trying to destroy the meteor using Huge Materia never made sense to me, and it's the one thing I hope they change in the remake
>>741286554Okay but it's better they expand on it not remove it
>>741279034>one line from Hojo makes this true!Sephiroth's will? You mean the fragile manchild that had a complete mental breakdown and lost his mind the moment he got close to "mommy"?>>741284556>copy your friends and family and infect youClearly you never played the game. Jenova copies what it deems is the strongest creature/being in the world it can get its tentacles on and kill and it does not "infect" people. Shinra infected people wtih jenova cells. The former is evidenced in it assimilating the strongest "cetra" that sealed it in the northern crater that locked herself in with Jenova and then again with sephiroth when he dies via Cloud and Sephiroth and Jenova get dunked into the lifestream. The later is evidenced by literally seeing HOJO injecting people with jenova cells. Dingus.
>>741286797You're a funny guy
>>741256175I love the weird ass monster design of the original FF7...
>>741286881But clearly not a liar.
>>741287179Oh no, clearly not
>>741286016Fits is them training for ffx-3.
>>741261915you'll fight him from the sub lmao. but however they go around this, it just won't feel right/satisfactory because the most fun part about beating emerald and ruby was ATB and materia system. it was like a puzzle you had to crack, it's even more fun/rewarding to pull it off without knights materia. remake system is different and action/reaction-based (it rewards good timing instead of careful planning and pre-battle setup), so I expect they'll turn it into a spectacle instead of a tough superboss that challenges your mastery of the system. it's kinda a lose-lose situation because the system in the remake is based on the enemy's stagger bar instead of figuring out broken materia combos.
When is tgs again? I want to see more gameplay.
>>741284167IIRC the Tentacles counter every hit and have different resistences. You need to (very slowly and deliberately) scan them and then single target them down.Using a summon in that fight with them all alive is an absolute death sentence.
>>741287887>ffx-3Why FFX-3? Because the games are connected in some way? I think FFXVII would be more likely.
>>741277604For me it is the personality and behavior more than graphics. Like, i still remember seeing for the first time the shock trooper in remake and how cool he moved and attacked, compare that to the original one
>>741286797>Clearly you never played the game. Jenova copies what it deems is the strongest creature/being in the world it can get its tentacles on and kill and it does not "infect" people.Hey, look at that, you're wrong. Play FFVII sometime.
>>741289312Like, as wrong as it gets. The game calls it wrong, every piece of FFVII media calls it wrong, and Ultimania especially tells us exactly how Jenova's mimicry ability works.
My personal headcanon is that the monster Jenova is a space virus that was probably named after its patient Zero like we do irl, which is why it looks like a woman for the most part, and why it has somewhat copied the powers of the Cetra, because it technically IS one.
>>741289360delet
>>741289413It doesn't have any "powers of a Cetra" because Cetra don't have "powers" to begin with. Cetra are just a tribe of people that the Planet favors. The Planet has all the power.But you are correct in that it's just a virus. It has no real intellect, it just wants to infect all biomatter it can reach and then Reunite once there's nothing left to infect.
>>741286016>>741284140You have tons of directions to go for but i dont think its gonna be big changes.We dont see stats change or triangle attack change so i dont know what could it be, abilities change?I do agree that menuing in remake feels like you have way too much abilities, maybe in revelation these abilities are split between jobs, and you can power them up vs some compromises.Like, just an idea, Warrior cloud gets no aerial combat, but has aerial onslaught ground version, and access to physical abilities like braver or focused thrust. And his skill tree empowers those abilities. Meanwhile Mystic knight gets blade beam and firebolt blade, but with the folios you can make it not firebolt blade but fireice blade, or transform blade beam into elemental blade beams. There are tons of directions they could and the most lame one would be to get just a couple of new abilities.
>>741286281>>741286319>>741286554>>741286667The huge materia is cut and replaced by Magnus materia inside the weapons. The game will probably focus on dealing with weapons rather than huge materia quest to power up the rocket.
>>741256626Was it this one?Yeah, underwater overlevelled niggas were scarier than anything else in the game combined.
>>741289658This dungeon is gonna be so good
>>741256626>>741289658You already kinda fight one of those. Remember this boss from rebirth? he comes out of the gelnika in gongaga, maybe that same gelnika doesnt come back to Junon and falls.
>>741289692For some reason it reminds me of that Demonwall in FF15 that just appears (sometimes with no music) swipes at you for 9999 damage while clipping into the wall/ground and basically zero particle effects.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRUO2wrZKbs
>>741256175They better take some cues from Subnautica, and make deep sea exploration genuinely dark and creepy. Like, you can only see what the spotlight of the sub illuminates, and all sorts of nasties are just lurking the inky black depths. I'm sure the underwater Mako reactor will be beefed up into its own storyline, since they were already teasing it in dialogue in Rebirth. Like maybe it falls under attack by Emerald Weapon or something.
>>741260178It'll be a twist, like Red XIII suddenly dropping the gruff act, and it being revealed that he's actually quite young in spite of his appearance. I forget why he even maintained that act. Like >>741260262 said, he's being friendly pilot guy in Rebirth, and I got the impression that he had a thing for Aerith's mom, so he's being nicer around her too. Once they get to Rocket Town, and Palmer's going to be there dicking around with the rocket stuff on top of Cid's old baggage coming back to the fore, he'll be back in asshole mode.
>>741279140>because it's going to be Shinra mommy commander.But she commanded the submarine crew before it became yours. By all logic, she'll still continue to serve you there.
>>741290906Oh she can serve me anywhere
>>741283628>>741283672The Highwind is going to basically become the Normandy, that's so cool.
>>741290458Makes it obvious world of ruin was suppose to be filled with high level demons to fight, probably why Deathgaze was in the 1.0 version of the game but never appeared.
>>741257283Weiss from dirge is in?
>>741260104>Old man yells at clouds>Has no joy
>>741289360It's funny how they reused this alien virus lore with Starscourge in XV, but it's way more confusing there. They never really explain if it's a scientific virus or some spiritual thing. The game calls it an alien parasite, yet it somehow blocks out the sun because the whole planet is infected. Makes me wonder, was this originally a Versus13 idea or did they just rip it off from FF7 later?
>>741291006>Icicle InnPick up Kyrie who ended up there>WutaiPick up Elena and the Turks who remain in the background, Don Corneo gets his balls kicked and disappears but not killed>Rocket TownShera will be fucking hot and Cid will treat her nicely, she becomes the Highwind's engineer nerd>Golden SaucerDio, Hojo's beach whores, Shinra manager, Madam M, Billy, Chloe, Chocobo Sam, Andrea hop a ride inside the Highwind>GongagaCissnei joins in and becomes a temporary squad member>Junon7th infantry and their commander will be the Highwind's crew, you control Rufus temporarily during his escape and you also pick up Reeve who will comically be far away from Cait SithYou also pick up Priscilla, her friends and the innkeeperScarlet is injured and jailed inside the Highwind and Heidegger and Hojo dies>MidgarNayo, Marlene, Elmyra get picked up
>>741291551>>Rocket Town>Shera will be fucking hot and Cid will treat her nicely, she becomes the Highwind's engineer nerdI always thought of Cid to be like the "warp speed inventor" from "Star Trek: Generations" who was drunk and angry all the time at anyone confronting him. He'd happily beat Elena and blame her for his lost chance at rocketship travel.
>>741291468Likely more content to explain it was just cut out of the game due to how rushed it was. The blood moon that was scrapped no doubt had something to do with it originally. The game was just a mess, they had to cut so much because Sony wanted it to release alongside the PS4 Pro.
>>741259932i really hope they make this as hard as the original isits the only fight in a game that has taken me YEARS to beat
>>741291918You can ungabunga it with Cloud, Cid and Barret and their lvl 4 limit breaks. Equip less than 9 materia per character to make the Aire Tam Stom hit 8888 or less, have Megalixirs ready for it and use 4xCut and multiple Counter attacks per character. It's easier and faster than getting, levelling and setting KotR, Mime, Final Attack+PhoneixSame with Ruby, you just need to have 2 characters KO'd at first and then do the same and throwing Dazer paralyze items on Ruby and easily wear it down
>>741291918I beat it effortless as a kid, but never managed to make a dent on ruby weapon
>>741291918>>741292392>>741294031The only consistent strats ive found is for emerald, you need to duplicate hero drinks with w-item then put 4 hero drinks on each character in battle and emerald wont be able to touch you, just use your strongest attacks, the most known one is Quadra magic and demi 3, 4 9999 attacks. For ruby i've never done anything but Kotr + hp absorb with mime and killing two characters before. I dont even know if its possible beating it otherway. Ive seen people use dazzers to paralyse it.
>>741259932Getting absolutely murdered by this guy in 2 seconds is a rite of passage
>>741260786The new designs for these monsters are so bad. We didn't ask for this, we asked for clean graphics like what is on the left showing the original monsters. That's all we wanted. Same game, better graphics.
>>741296679>OG isn't good enough>Remake isn't eitherMan it feels good being able to enjoy both instead of hating them like you
>>741296679>The new designs for these monsters are so badwhich ones?
>>741292392this was before gamefaqs brotherand no one knew what aire team storm didi almost beat it once because my vincent dodged the hit (after phoenix ofc)and this was with mime kotr spam too
>>741297050Gi Spector, Dragon, Heavy Tank, etc..... There are some ones I like, I just prefer the original designs. I don't care for all the realistic looking designs.>>741296851There are so many things I don't like about the remakes. The games aren't meant for me. I gave them a shot. I'll stick to the original game and the mods people make for them.
>>741283061NTA, but I never did that. I actually remember being disappointed in the loss of games that looked like FFVII and Megaman Legends when sixth generation rolled around.It's probably an autist vs neurotypical mindset.
>>741297589Heavy tank i can give it to you but those you mentioned basically look the sameHeavy tank is a bummer, i dont expect an actual tank but at least some mechanical parts in the back, maybe we get it for part 3 since we can go back to gongaga
>>741256736I've been waiting for the whole game to be released before I play it, how much filler is there exactly?
>>741298189500 hours
>>741262506Because there is no fun allowed in the remake apparently. You want a dinosaur on wheels as an enemy? Too bad that's not realistic or streamlined enough for our new living world so here's a generic lizard monster.
>>741298393Why are you pretending remake doesnt take enemies and remade them faithfully like 99% of the time?
>>741298475I'm gay
>>741298128Yeah watching those videos and seeing the comparisons just makes it worse. Adamantai looks ridiculous. Also while I'm being a crybaby about the remakes, why is it when I grind and I fight an enemy that gives me good XP, why does the amount I gain get lower and lower?
>>741298475Because when the things they omitted or changed are the whimsical and "radical" enemies alongside the other minor changes it makes a pattern of streamlining the world and removing some of it's charm.Does the game NEED a dinosaur on wheels? No, it doesn't. But the game is better with one so I will complain if it's not added.
>>741298798Sneed
>>741260842>t.
>>741256329Don't let larry see this or he'll freak the hell out about Atlus lmao
>>741298858I haven't played the games yet, but I really hope they have Cid screaming and cursing all the time but literally bleeped censored instead of $*%)^ censored.
HOLY KINO
>>741260104Fact. Ignore the zoomer sloppers in the replies. They are tastelet goycattle
>>741284167new threat is gayi had to use armor shredding magic on safer seph for like 8 minutes before i did noticeable damage to him but otherwise it was vanilla
>>741264735holy fucking kino. I'll now be disappointed if that's not how it's handled.It's like how Odin cuts the ocean in half in XVI but with a genuine mechanic tied to it.
i dont know if i can stomach an ENTIRE game with reds "true" voice
>>741300208It's definitely cringe to hear him
>>741298128I like top but I really hate the way they've made scales look, and that design style persist to shit like how Ruby weapon looks. The overdesign on the texturing of the body is just an eyesore.
>>741299642NuTifa looking a little chonky.
>>741299642The images on the left look soulless, I'll take the images on the right.
>>741301185damn, daring today, arent we
>>741301239I'm probably your dad
topkek
>>741302397What were they THINKING
>>741291918They've said the optional and post-game fights will be harder than the final boss and that it includes Weapons.
>>741302804Link to story please. I'm trying to find a reason to play this game when it comes out
>>741302889It's an answer from a stream so it's on a bunch of different sites.>Hamaguchi explained that the third and final installment will place a greater emphasis on endgame progression and post-story content than prior entries. While both Final Fantasy VII Remake and Final Fantasy VII Rebirth encouraged players to replay the game on Hard Mode after finishing the main campaign, the approach will be different in the trilogy’s finale. “Instead of pushing the player to restart the game on hard mode, Revelation will encourage them to complete all the remaining content on the world map after finishing the main story,” he said. He added that players will face powerful optional challenges, including the Weapons and even tougher enemies.>The return of the classic level cap (99) is part of a wider effort to pay homage to the original Final Fantasy VII. The Final Fantasy VII Remake trilogy director confirmed that the Weapons will be integrated in a manner similar to the 1997 original, with some appearing during the main story while others will serve as optional encounters scattered throughout the world map. Several of these battles are expected to rank among the toughest challenges in the game.https://twistedvoxel.com/final-fantasy-vii-revelation-level-cap-same-as-1997-original-endgame-hard-mode/
>>741302804i mean that goes for remake and rebirth too right? i never did the final vr missions in rebirth but even before gilgamesh having to fight several summons at the same time was more challenging than sephiroth
>>741256175> this fucking fight in real timeif he cant just randomly Gonai the fuck out of a party member they might as well not even add him. Dont really follow Rebirth did they do the Shinra mansion and did they add the chandelier guy or the floating pumpkin face things, not to fond of the gameplay but it is fun to see them do modern designs for some of the old monsters.
>>741298858Top kek.I'm stealing this webm and nobody can stop me. :))))
>>741289131Leaked alongside x remake
>>741303187Hard mode Sephiroth in Rebirth is harder than everything in the game other than the final challenges where you fight waves of all summons and bosses solo.
>>741304316I found the Gi guardian, the mythril golem and the entire jenova fight to be harder desuSephiroth in rebirth is pretty easy to follow and to stop from going crazy
>>741304316might have to finish hard mode but i dont wanna play the game in smudgy 30 fps againthey really need to add cross saves at this point ill literally buy it again on steam
>>741298858>xbox broI see the size of our fan base has increased. ^^
>>741298858Built for Big Barret Cock
>>741303039Thanks
>>741256175AMETHYST WEAPONONYX WEAPONALPHA WEAPONQUARTZ WEAPONHopefully we get onyx weapon back from nomura cut content
>>741305530What's his name going to be?
>>741299507Anon, Cid got completely neutered. He doesn't even smoke anymore.
>>741305614crab weapon
>>741305709The more I learn about the games the less inclined I am to buy them and a do a marathon playthrough all at once when it's finally finished.
>>741302749jujudrop in DeviantArt and Pixiv and NewGrounds, jujudropart in Twitter
>>741256175Huh
>>741261000>That's why I'm thinking they have walked back on this being the final FF7 entry for awhile.This has been confusing me for a bit, did the team say they are planning more 7 content after part 3?
>>741260784I love how the Shinra soldiers look. Can't believe Cloud was miffed about having to put on a cool helmet like this.
>>741307028that's the mook yellow-shirt helmetyou can tell by not being able to see their eyesit's a common trope in japanese media that i've never seen called outthe remakes never should have gone with this shit realistic looking art direction
>>741307804It's somewhat less obvious that everyone has the same face if you obscure the eyes.
>>741305614That's the generic class weapon it's not one of the important OG ones, probably serves as the first one you fight.
How come no one else uses buster swords? They're fucking sold in stores, but only three guys use them. Two of them are dead. And all three used the same one.
>>741301919That would imply that you've had sex at some point, which is laughable.
>>741308492i don't recall ever seeing a buster sword on display in a store in FF7cloud gets his off zack's corpse
>>741308492I hope the normal 1sts we encounter use 'em would be cool
>>741308492Too big, the standard issue SOLDIER sword is a lot lighter.
SOLDIERs are shit. They're all jobbers. In the entire history of the program, there were only like four worth a shit.
>>741308760Sephiroth and?
>>741308819Sephiroth doesn't count he doesn't have the typical blue eyes of SOLDIER, he was altered in the womb with a different procedure.
>>741308978He's litearlly THE SOLDIER dumbass
>>741308819Sephiroth, Zack, Angeal and Genesis. Mind you, the latter three were all retcons. If the Compilation didn't exist, Sephiroth would be the only one. In the original game, Zack got gunned down by like three infantrymen.
>>741308492Probably because two out of three users died trying to main them. I imagine to your average joe they're just a wall-hanger you occasionally bring out to impress people by chopping up watermelons.
>>741309059Just because they lumped him in with the rest doesn't mean he's the same
>>741309176You're right, he's a cut above the rest. Because he's the original.
Honestly, looking at the Buster Sword in Remake/Rebirth, it's really just a large slab of iron that they chiseled some fancy lines onto.
>>741308492It was a custom job commissioned by Angeal's parents, and only 1st Class-level are ever shown to wield it.
>>741309723Buster sword is a category of weapon, not a specific one. Angeal just never named his buster sword anything. All swords of that size are buster swords.
>>741309874Since when?
>>741299642OG Caith Sith approaching rapidly
>>741309923At the beginning of Rebirth, Shinra's on the lookout for a guy with a buster sword. The language used implies that there's more than one and that by just saying "the target has a buster sword", everyone will immediately know what they're talking about.
>>741309923>>741310065Gonna add that children both in the opening on top of the plate and in sector 5 use buster sword toys, they aren't all larping as Angeal or a no name like Zack just generic SOLDIER presumably firsts
>>741310223They only actually get those things AFTER Cloud rescues them. So they're LARPing specifically as Cloud.
>>741310065It's probably a well-known weapon, considering it's been carried by a a Soldier so famous that he's got his own fanclub. It's not much of a "category" if by the logic of the initial point, only one is ever shown to be wielded. It's clearly not something that regular people (or even lower ranked Soliders) can run around with.
>>741261000>but I imagine some of the changes were how the creators truly envisioned the scenes/battles considering the main guys are still working on it.I'm sure they totally originally envisioned Shinra blowing up their own reactor because Jessie's "stronger blasting agent" bomb barely did fuck all, the path to Wall Market going from a 2 second screen to a multiple minutes clusterfuck of having to slowly move boxes and shit around, going back to the sewers to chase midget Aps around, etc. This isn't even getting into the whispers faggotry.There's a reason why the common perception among those who play Remake is that when you're doing FF7 stuff the game is great but when you're doing Remake stuff the game is boring as shit.
>>741310382There are others. Like I said, all the weapons in Cloud's inventory are buster swords. More than one does exist, it's just uncommon.
>>741310557lol
>>741310557There were always going to be people who hated the remake no matter what SE did. But luckily there are people who would love and defend the remake no matter what SE did. So as annoying as the haters are, at least there's balance.
>If there WERE any SOLDIERs, we'd be dead.I think Cloud has a skewed view of what SOLDIERs are. He looks at the shit that he can do and he thinks all SOLDIERs can do what he does. Like I'm pretty sure the average 3C probably can't do shit to the Airbuster.
>>741312202I mean gameplay wise they'd fuck you up with those weird sickles they threw
>>741260202>I'm with youlol>>741260647>Nah, fuck offlmao
>>741310557So thats what you truly think, huh
>>741264316Calling it. The Revelation demo will start in the northern crator and end with the weapons being unleashed.
If they don't have this faggot lurking the bottoms of the ocean as you explore the ocean floor it'll be a flop remake
>>741312494Maybe up to the jenova fight then a separate open world parteverything after the boss is walking and cutscenes
>>741270568Its the hardest boss on hard mode.
>>741312471Not mine, sorry.>some rando criticizes 7R>you assume that's me>I literally tell you things I love about 7R>hmm no you are lyingYou are a hopeless schizo.
>>741312743>Not mineWho are you? i'm just aknowledging that anon opinion
so in this game the only alive 1st class is Sepiroth? kinda insane
>>741256736>Corridor walking simClearly you didn't play rebirth
>>741312796Sure anon. Whenever people post what they think here, I reply to them to say "so that's what you truly think, huh" in order to acknowledge them. Very natural, very normal. I'm glad you do it too.
>>741312494That's the theory since Cid can just fly them there directly, icicle inn journey is speculated to be moved to the late game when the party goes to the crater the second time.
Why am I reading a thread on /v/ of people actually excited about a game they actually playedIs it ... fun?
>>741312893You are definitely a jumpy retard with protagonist complex. I hope you get the help you need.
>>741312893so that's what you truly think, huh
>>741281785We didn't get Sephiroth throwing a ball at Clouds balls :(
>>741283628Aerith is getting on that ship even if it's a Jenova larp.
>>741312972It is. Why, you think that's strange?
>>741283672Please add a barber shop
>>741312801No. Other 1Cs exist (though we haven't run into them). But you have to remember that after the events of Crisis Core, a LOT of SOLDIERS either died or deserted. My understanding is that more SOLDIERs received promotions over the years, but none have ever reached the heights of their golden age.In terms of SOLDIER powerlevels, it's Sephiroth >>>> Genesis > Angeal > Zack >>>>>>>>>> Everyone else. Zack did defeat Genesis, but he can't really do the same things that Genesis could do. It's like how Sephiroth can just nuke entire city blocks and shit with just a wave of his hand, but Cloud still defeated him three times.
>>741286797>Jenova copies what it deems is the strongest creature/being in the worldStrongest you say...
>>741313426Sephiroth was a freak, Genesis and Angeal were freaks. The greatest successes the Jenova program has ever produced. Everyone else just went through the normal mako/Jenova cell infusion procedure, but those three were specially bred. They're premium.Zack isn't one of them, but he's probably a prodigy or something. Cloud is an even bigger prodigy.
>>741289658Getting out of that area to Emerald weapon RIGHT there made my heart drop out of my ass.
>>741313426All the SOLDIERs turned into those black robed reunion tards you see a couple of them degenerate into them in Rebirth.
>>741313879Not all just the weaker/retired ones like the inn keeper
>>741313879Those aren't ALL the SOLDIERs. We even fight some 2Cs in the Temple.
>>741256175here's it's battle themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx7vNdAb5e4
>>741314019Sick reference bro
I hope they revamp Cloud's fighting style again. I want to see him pull off the swift and graceful moves he uses in Advent Children.
>>741313953Speed Demon wasn't weak or old
>>741314134Cloud humiliated him three times.
>>741314134He got daily dosed by Hojo
>>741312732This and the two match promoters talking shit made the fight so fun.
>>741314087I hope the job system accomplishes that. It says new abilities but I hope it augments the basic combos too.
>>741312801>>741313426IIRC you fight 1C SOLDIERS when you go back to Midgar. Of course Shinra is pretty much fucked at that point so who knows who they desperately promoted
>>741314065
>>741314157Cloud is the second most powerful person on the planet.
>>741256175exporting some ancient spanish memes
>>741298189Remake has lots of padding but it was bearable. Rebirth is like 90% filler/minigames. I thought it was okay until you get to gold saucer, then it starts becoming a chore to play. Also Cosmo Canyon was a disgrace complete with actual gay nigger NPCs. I intend to pirate part 3 and seed it out of spite.
>>741314246Not yet. He's clearly getting stronger and refining his sword techniques over time, but I'd say that he's not even at Zack's level yet at that point in Remake. Obviously he's getting stronger and stronger, he's still at his weakest the first time he runs into Roche.
>>741314332Most of those minigames can be skipped if you're okay with missing out on a few things.
>>741314353>Zack's level
>>741310557do you seriously believe this
>>741314332I refuse to criticize SE for putting shit content in these games. The blame is entirely on the player who should know not to play the side content. You will ALWAYS see me posting multiple times in these threads to make clear it's the players fault and not SEs.
>>741314548sis couldn't hold it in
>>741303039So the world isn't destroyed this time? Spoilers!
>>741314353He went toe to toe with Sephiroth and Jenova multiple times and won every encounter, he'd be about level 90 at the start of Revelation if it didn't reset.
>>741314618Shame we can't call that one a falseflag as it's literally the same argument you see used all the time in every 7R thread.
>>741314407Most are mandatory, the entire swimsuit ticket part could fuck right off. The retarded interactions where they have you hold a lever down for a full minute and lame shit like plugging in mako vacuums was trash. There was too much juvenile dev shit, like you could tell these people don't play video games. What in the living fuck was the chicken clanger thing? Or box tossing in Shinra mansion? >bro just skip what you don't likeThat's 90% of the game man.
>>741314747What a strange reply to that post. Why would you say something like this?
>>741314724He lost at the end of Remake. It was the first and only time Cloud ever lost to Sephiroth in the entire series' history.
>>741289413The form it looks like now is only its form because it was copying a Cetran woman when they defeated and sealed it.When you fight it, and it transforms closer to what it truly is. A flesh bag of Hentai tenticals.
>>741309263Love the sky omage.
>>741289413it's either taken the form of the first or last thing it managed to infect
>>741314809Because it's true? Someone always says it's the players fault for playing the side content. Do you feel differently?
>>741315067You're being oddly defensive friend. Let's calm down and talk about vidya
>>741310557My favorite parts in Rebirth were the new stuff.
Apparently, there's gonna be even more minigames in Revelation, but they won't be as mandatory. Basically, the only real issue with Rebirth's minigames is that the game essentially strongarms you into playing them.
>>741315257My finely crafted thread narrative... RUINED!
>>741315216We agree, so there's no trouble here.>>741315257Thank you so much.
>>741315325Posters who didn't like the new stuff really thought we were going to let them get away with it lol
>>741315390Their narrative is ruined and they are NOT happy.
>>741315257>using the glowing plastic-ass looking sword for this scene
>>741315318FF7 original has tons of minigames and you have to grind to even be able to do anything at the gold saucer cause they're scummy jews in the OG.
>is absent for the entire game
>>741315527>FF7 original has tons of minigamesAnd it's still an under 30 hour game and VIIR (so far) is two 50 hour games with too much bloat and filler. See the problem?
>>741289312OH that's fair. Still proves my point so I don't know what you're butthurt about. My point is Sephiroth's been dead the entire time and you just showcase more evidence that is the case.
>>741315627Criticizing the remake trilogy in any way while liking FF7 original is hypocritical.
>>741315318Minigames are pacing cancer in both the OG and the remake. They grind the flow to a halt so you can do something that's more fun in the programmer's head.
>>741315702What are you, in a hurry?
>>741315627PS1 limitations every area has 5 NPCs and no sidequests
>>741315547Yeah I have a feeling even if she comes back it won’t be until late. Maybe when they go back to the Forgotten capital
>>741261202FF7 is not that great, it's why it needed a remake in the first place.
>>741315808Don't forget two of those NPCs are the same character model copy and pasted. Even the pixel Final Fantasys did that.
>>741315547It is going to be very somber playing Revelation without Aerith.
>>741261915>here is your very rational and absolutely perfect vidya, bro.
>>741316959Who are you quoting? Please tell me where all the people who think FF7 is realistic and down to earth have been hanging out.
>>741257283how the hell did you pass normal not knowing this ?
>>741317150On my never ending quest to to promote FFVIIR by making fans of FF7 original look foolish I sometimes come up with strawmen that don't even make sense to me. This is one of those times, I'm sorry. But the work continues.
>>741317150>Who are you quoting?
>>741261915>How the hell is this going to workProbably with a submarine mini-game.
>>741317440I’ve been posting Elliot Rodgers gifs in response to Sebby lately. I wonder if he knows about the hapa connection I’m doing.
>>741312618I just remembered. You can see the Key to the Ancients has been moved to the village of the Gi instead of the ocean in Rebirth.The Holy Materia should be in the sea under the northern continent instead. I spent ages looking for it.
>>741316959Without a special materia it has a timer that drowns you when it hits zero.
>>741317401Better luck next time! And there will be a next time.
>>741260104you could see the sings of greatness in the very first part of this garbage trilogy of demakes, but the second the flying scrutums showed up it was literally and figuratively over, its like watching a fucking parody, i can't believe people take this trash seriously, and this is even after completely ignoring the fact that sephiroth shows up literally every 5 minutes for no fucking reason
>>741295712this game has shit like final attack+phoenixyou basically can't lose once you get into late game, idk how you have such problems and need to resort to exploits
>>741314827The Queens Blood story hints that Jenova took on the form of a prominent female politician to rabble rouse the humans into hating the Cetra. She was still in that human form when sealed.
>>741318167>you basically can't lose once you get into late gameit doesnt work
>>741315257I'm sorry haters but this is peak
>>741314947I'd love it if this wasn't a one time move from him, cause its painful if he can do it multiple times in the OG, but I imagine for the remake its going to be a full high-budget cinematic.
>>741315547Aerith is controlling the weapons
>>741315257>My favorite parts in Rebirth were the new stuff.Same. I also like the Whispers. They just make the planet feel more alive.
>>741318986The ending of Chapter 13 was an upgrade.>Let's talk!>Let's save the planet together>Aeeerrrriiiittthhh
>>741319301Also new. Fantastic scene.
Revelation is a very good choice for Episode 3, but in retrospect, I think Reunion would have been a better title choice for Episode 2.
>>741319660apparently according to nomura the original names of the trilogy were gonna be remake, reunion and rebirth, in that order
>>741319301Also new. Best music in the game (outside of Jenova fights)
>>741319660Revelation is cool in terms of references to The book of Revelation. End of the world with a giant meteor named wormwood.
>>741307028Galbadian helmets are cooler.
>>741318329It is an interesting untold story.You could fuel an entire prequel game on it.The split between the Cetran and humans. Could be explored. Was is humans jealousy over the planets favoured, exploited tensions by Jenova.Depending on the canonisation of it in the Remake. The Cetran peoples main "power" was to commune with the planet, heal its wounds and keep their individuality after death and have some power or input on where the power of the planet needs to go. Like how Aerith supplements Holy with the Lifestream energy.Seeing their perspective and how the humans made war upon them by the manipulation Jenova did, and the virus she gave them. I would take even a Nojima book on it. I liked the Tifa/Aerith book.
FF7 is trash.
and it will be a 20 hour boring slogfest with mmo like fetch quests
Clouds heel arc is coming
>>741313426I don't think the raw power gap between basic SOLDIERs and even Sephiroth was as big as is often assumed, at least when Sephiroth was still human. Cloud as a washout was able to get one on Sephy, and the 3rd Class in turn are more than a match for him 1v1 when you typically first encounter them.
>>741320674We will apparently be able to make choices in Revelation, that will affect the story. I honestly wonder what these choices could be.
I think I set straight almost every single post ITT that wasn't positive enough about remake
>>741321374It probably just determines who Cloud has sex with under the Highwind
>>741322046and it's gonna be tifa or barret or red
Sephiroth is Cloud's daddy. Calling it now.
>>741322046Roche. I can fix him.
>>741322417>RocheI have bad news for you, anon...
>>741322294That part in the trailer when he says "I wouldn't have made it this far without you guys. I won't let you down, I promise," I guarantee that he's talking to Zack and Aerith in the Lifestream. Maybe even the Avalanche guys too. I think that's going to be the twist with Zack. He's going to realize that he's been dead the whole time, and this other "timeline" we've been seeing are the memories of the dead sort of jumbled and mixed up. Then, when he re-emerges as his own man, no longer living in Zack's shadow he's going to change into his Advent Children outfit.
>>741322294There are two scenes that could make me cry1. literal cloud/Aerith Yuna tidus goodbye, with Aerith walking away as she dissimilates into the lifestream forever2. Cloud speech in the highwind when he talks to the party, takes a deep breath and continues on>>741322696In the japanese version it is more clear that the scene is Cloud with the party. He says something like "let's save the planet"
>>741322752That's odd. It felt like they chose that line specifically because he had the dual meta meaning as well, like Cloud's talking to whoever, but he's also talking to the players who have stuck with it up to now.
1. They should have made new Final Fantasies instead of remaking FF7. 2. If they had to insist on remaking FF7, they should have at least actually done that, and actually remade FF7. 3. This pseudo-sequel shit is fucking lame, and if they wanted to do an FF7 sequel they should have just done FF7-2 of some kind instead of retreading FF7 but making shit different here and there.
>>741322696>Then, when he re-emerges as his own man, no longer living in Zack's shadow he's going to change into his Advent Children outfit.Kino.
>>741322840>That's odd. It felt like they chose that line specifically because he had the dual meta meaning as well, like Cloud's talking to whoever, but he's also talking to the players who have stuck with it up to now.Yeah definitely, but think about it, in the SGF presentation they used the english version so it is fitting. judge by yourself, i dont know japanese, i just remember seeing someone say it on twitterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CznXJj_4awg
>>741323045Oh, I'm not saying that you're wrong.
>>741322294As funny as that would be. The Nojima Tifa book talks about Cloud's dad.He is a wondering adventurer who got merked on Mt. Nebel.
>>741323080That "i wont lose my way anymore" feels like post lifestream
>>741323045>It's thanks to everyone I made it this far>I won't hesitate anymore>Let's save the planet
most based take: ff7r isn't bad because remake bad, ff7r is bad because it's remaking a game that was also bad. ff7 fucking sucks.
>>741257283Man fuck Weiss. Stupid fucking character with a stupid name and a stupid design. When I finally beat that motherfucker it was purely out of spite.
>>741322752>1. literal cloud/Aerith Yuna tidus goodbye, with Aerith walking away as she dissimilates into the lifestream foreverEven grown men will be balling their eyes out.
>>741323534Just have some "thanks cloud, you solved the puzzle, now sephiroth is gone forever and so will i, i knew you could do it, you have to live and be happy and goodbye" speech, put the saddest most hopeful goodbye aerith theme ever made and that's it, you get an instant 10/10
>>741322752That would tap into decades of pent-up emotion relating to those characters. Not counting Advent Children, Aerith just dies and that's it, there was no chance to say goodbye. In fact, that would spare him the grief that he would carry into an Advent Children future.
>>741322294>Sephiroth is Cloud's daddy. Calling it now.I know you're just joking, but let everyone know that Sephiroth is a bit too young to be Cloud's father, at least through natural means.
>>741323807DNA tests suggest a perfect match!
>>741323657>instant 10/10If they can nail just that one scene, then they got it in the bag.
>>741323657It's a cheap trick but whatever boost the sales I guess. I'm a grown man so I won't cry.
>>741324120That's the first thing faggot early leakers will be dropping on youtube.
What do you guys think SE will actually do?>1. Aerith says goodbye and fades away into the Lifestream>2. The above, BUT it is hinted that Aerith could be saved somehow>3. Gaia gives Aerith a second chance at life and is revived
>>741322294>ROR they actually buy this shit!
>>741322294Aerith will be in the lifestream sequence confirmed.
>>7413245321 is the only one that I will accept. It's bittersweet as all hell, but 2 or 3 would cheapen it.
>>741324490Yep. I am not going anywhere near /v/, social media or even Youtube until I have finished the game. You just know that some faggot is going to speed run through Revelation just to spoil all the good stuff.
>>7413245321 actually hits the theme of the game but i'll do you one more that actually fits much, much better.4. aerith doesnt survive, she fades, but her energy reincarnates into something we players can recognize. Maybe a new child that looks similar to Aerith, theres the chance for aerith to live again through someone else, as we all do. As everyone that goes into the lifestream does. Life is cyclical and we are all connected, so dont be afraid to die, since new life will be born.
>>741303039It would be cool to fight President Shinra as a superboss in the lifestream. After Seph and Jenova are both gone, his overwhelming greed is polluting it so you have to go and exorcise him. Maybe his fight could be something like him manifesting the most powerful aspects of his company into a Kefka-ish giant statue, with him ruling from his desk at the top of it. Mostly I just want him to use his golden gun and have it insta-kill whoever it hits.
>>741324773>It would be cool to fight President Shinra as a superboss in the lifestream. After Seph and Jenova are both gone, his overwhelming greed is polluting it so you have to go and exorcise him.get out of here, Atlus
>>741324560Yes. It is the best shit since Mass Effect. Literally vidya crack.
>>741256175Are they going to give them snorkels or oxygen tanks though? Defeats the entire purpose if they do.
>>741323534That fade happened in Rebirth. You need the final green shot of Aerith stopping the meteor.
>>741324745>4. aerith doesnt survive, she fades, but her energy reincarnates into something we players can recognize. Maybe a new child that looks similar to Aerith, theres the chance for aerith to live again through someone else, as we all do. As everyone that goes into the lifestream does. Life is cyclical and we are all connected, so dont be afraid to die, since new life will be born.Peak Buddhism. This is possible.
>>741325565This is the pedo ending. Do not like.
>>741324745I think they will give us her back for the ending chapters and then go>I do not belong in this timeline i must goGoes with Zack, like at the end of AC.
>>741324687>good stuffheh
>>741314332The original Golden Saucer had some fun minigames, did they decide to take that previous fun and slather the entire game with it like a piece of toast with a full cup of butter smeared over it?
>>741325118There clearly won't be any underwater battles in Revelation. The Remake series is much more realistic than OG.
My GOAT Genesis will redeem himself by fighting Sephiroth.>"The world needs a new hero!"
>>741322870Okay. Make your own thread.
>>741314331VAJ... home..
>>741329389BASADO
>>741329676its incredible how iconic his VAJ is... anyway i dont know if you have listened to this but have a laughhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuSaiyfLBqEand then go to sleep its 4am
>>741330131yeah i listened that, pretty funny>its 4 amnot spanish, im sudacafortunately i didnt play ffvii in spanish but english, im surprised how badly translated ffvii was. Im actually wondering if people have made proper spanish translation.I miss Base avalancha.
Is this thread an anomaly or are all FFVII discussions like this?
>>741330529It is pretty much one of the calmest, rarest threads ever.
>>741330529Nearly all of the haters disappeared after the reveal trailer. FF7 threads used to never this peaceful.
>>741330746For real. We are vindicated.
I hope they dont remove hard mode. I like that the endgame content isnt tied to hard mode anymore, thats a really good change, but i do like hard mode in general for a replay and use all your tools.
>>741331550I am pretty sure there will still be an NG+ hard mode in Revelation. A hard mode boss rush was one of the best things about Rebirth. I just have doubts if hard mode will still be tied to a trophy due to all of the complaints from achievement hunters, who care more about the platinum trophy than just enjoying themselves.
>>741314751I'd take those far fewer in between than the lazy push jumping puzzles I had to fucking do in Stellar Blade. You think the Mako vacuum is stupid? How about having to do it five times and exploration requires it even more?
Whoa, my thread is still up? Cool! I actually skipped 4chan after work to go right on the PS5 and play more Rebirth. And did almost nothing but side contest after vowing I would finally make headway in the main story, lmao. Nibelheim region, was about to B-line to the objective but decided to catch the chocobo after all and then it just organically flowed into an hours-long session from there, FLUDD hovering all over the place and finding new places to go. The submarine dock with the other cloaked Shinra experiments was especially cool. Also was not expecting to hear a Monty Python reference when I fought Gilgamesh
>>741334979*side content
>>741334979>Also was not expecting to hear a Monty Python reference when I fought Gilgameshdid you catch the test-0 reference in the corel prison collosseum
>>741335112I did not! I took a long break partially because of how disconnected the side and main content feels in Rebirth, so I don't even remember a lot of that part.
>>741335194
Aerith showing up in the Lifestream confirmedAlso I guess this probably means the flashback scene with Zack and Cloud is being moved there as well
>>741335246Sorry but I'm not sure I get it, I'm blinded by how it's a palette swap of what was inexplicably the hardest fight in Remake on Normal mode (shy of Hard bosses and the combat sim) a fucking DOG
>>741335246The multiple test-0 fight is FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE AAAAAAAAAAAA
>>741335351>Test 0 is a reference to the dummied enemy êúô0(äñ) from the Japanese version of the original Final Fantasy VII, believed to be used for debugging by the programmers.>The creature being in its idle state at the start of the battle is also a reference to the dummied enemy in the original game, where it wouldn't fight back. The enemy intel states that the creature escaped Shinra due to a "developer's oversight", referencing how the data for the dummied enemy wasn't removed in the original game's files.>The name of the fight and its flavor text in the Beast Battleground's "Sylkis Cup Final Round: Unknown Error" are references to the original battle against the dummied enemy, where the screen would sometimes display the "Unknown Error" message.>Test 0 in Rebirth has multiple spoken lines depending on different actions and attacks:>"I'm Test 0! Nice to meet ya!" - battle start and when running around the arena.>"Encounter error!" - when running around the arena.>"If you're seeing this message, please submit a bug report." - when running around the arena.>"I don't like you!" - when casting magic.>"How do ya do, buddy?" - during normal melee attacks and when casting magic.>"Let's do this thing!" - during normal melee attacks and when using Bolstering Whip.>"Get a load of this thing!" - when using Bolstering Whip.>"Time for some munchies!" - when successfully hitting Throat Clamp,>"I'm sorry! Give me a break!" - when using Play Dead.>"Hey! What did ya do that for, ya big meanie?!" - after taking heavy damage and when using Play Dead.>"Ouch! That hurt!" - after taking heavy damage.
Seriously that goddamn dog was the hardest thing in normal mode, even if it was side contentHell house on hard was technically harderWeiss was obviously harderI never actually did Summon Monsters level 50 in Remake because I was hard filtered by Leviathan, despite beating Weiss in mission 51, every time it would fly around the arena and smack the party with its fins, I was borderline wiped (even when I tried barrier>magnify) >>741335429So they basically canonized the FFVII version of missingno. That's fucking awesome
Tempted to double-dip on Remake after playing the Switch 2 demoAlso capped this from the Rebirth demo, not sure I caught it through my TV speakers when I played it on PS5 the first time. Nice touch
>>741328005I mean, TECHNICALLY, that fight in the OG takes place in a tunnel that leads into the underwater reactor from Junon. You don't actually fight it underwater.
Well before this thread dies by my own hand I just want to give a shoutout to the open world content in Rebirth and its ability to captivate me unlike most "do stuff in any order" type open worlds, given that's the session I just experienced prior to revisiting this board. Chocobos provide an excellent means of extrapolating beyond preexisting boundaries of the world and result in an encouragement of healthy experimentation with your surroundings.Sort of wish encounters were more abundant amidst exploration, generally speaking, throughout every hub. Was also pleasantly surprised at some of the story connections made for what amounted to optional content, like Hojo appearing here and its related cutscene elaborating on Cloud's connection to the robed figures.
>>741260786OG mogs remake garbage so hard it's almost sadif the original sephiroth was the emo faggot he's been in every spinoff, including this one, no one would have give a shit about him as an antagonist
What was Advent Children supposed to provide? I just got done watching it and it was about an hour and 40 minutes worth of lame fighting. Basically filler
Fuck, I miss a whole thread. I wanted to asked, why is Tifa other class in Revelation, Black Mage? That doesn't make any sense. She's basically the teams Monk. Shouldn't her next class be Master or Black Belt? Why is her next class, a class about magic when Monks don't have magic?
>>741338829it was square developing their animation tools for nextgen consolesit also gave us the gay ass versions of cloud and seph we know and hate today
>>741339024who knows. aeris was the only mage in ff7. there really wasn't a distinction between white and black magic because of how interchangeable materia was.
remake good
>>741339024tifa is the 3rd best magician of the 9. her physical attacks really peter off
>>741270568It was cool that the "mimic chest" of the slums was a nice boring house. I'm glad they kept it.
>>741339024FITS = jobsanybody can be anything, probably though I'm personally curious whether FITS modify preexisting stats or completely replace them
>>741339178Tifa is the best at increasing stagger damage % there's few characters that can do it with any ability.
>>741304596Or, you know, he's playing the pc version with an xbox controller.
>>741339095I thought she was a healer and Barret was the mage...>>741339178In the original or the Remake series?>>741339430Think we're going back to pre-FFVI?
>>741339714>>741339732i was talking about the original
>>741339732I assume he means the original when he says her damage peters off. She kinda peaks with Powersoul gimmicks then Premium Heart kinda sux. Meanwhile Remake Tifa is beastmode DPS, absolutely shits damage like tubgirl
>>741339732Barret is one of the worst mages in both original and remake his magic stats are among the lowest. He's a physical attacker tank with the highest HP.
>>741339968And since most of his weapons are long range, he belongs in the back row
>>741283061It's called old good new bad my childhood was when everything was perfect and beautiful.
>>741321351Plot convenience, I guess. Ever Crisis just added a Zack character quest showing his early days in SOLDIER, and Angeal could apparently single-handedly dispatch a horde of monsters that would kill a platoon of 3rd Classes. Genesis and Sephiroth are hinted to be even more powerful, though Zack pretty much never sees them because they’re too introverted to hang out with people.
>>741319301I love shizo Cloud. Rebirth depicts his brain problems much better than OG ever did and he’s a better character for it.
>>741335258ZERITH WON
where is my wife aerith
Do you think they'll bring in Jade WEAPON?
>>741298858Something good about ff7 remake is that the models are actually not realistic and they look greatNPCs designed by jeets are still ugly as sin though
I'm so excited, people will complain about everything being a spectacle but I don't care. I can't wait to see how over the top the final battle will be, the weapon battles, etc. I think there will be a lot of very long battle sequences that jump all over the place.The story will be hitting a lot of climactic pay offs
>>741309157Akshually, Sephiroth having two SOLDIER friends who are then "lost" was the plan earlier in the OG production, back when Aerith was still called Tifa and Sephiroth was supposed to be her brother. A surprising amount of new additions in the Compilation and especially Remakes are old concepts SE picked up from the cutting floor.
>>741338202A lot of vocal purists really don't appreciate the improvements and little scenes that actually add to the story and characters instead of being mere bloat. And there are a lot of moments like that.
>>741321529And we appreciate your hard work.>>741330773This is all I've ever wanted.
>>741328078If Ultimania is to be believed, he's given up on being a hero. He's become the planet's guardian because he's the only superpowered freak left who is not batshit insane (anymore), and to honor the memory of his friends.
>>741343953Okay, but was Genesis being a faggot who kept obsessively reciting a dumb book also intended?
>>741342039see>>741338282sometimes less is more
>>741345063There are no valid criticisms of these games, and they know it. That's why they keep trying to attack the "bloat" even though there isn't any. They don't play videogames, they just complain about them.
>>741266240To be fair, the OG was kinda ambiguous on if Sephiroth was a SNAIL or not and in the end if he was or not was irrelevant cause he was still going to blow up the planet, the Recompilation is the one that leans into "Nah, It was all Sephiroth, Always.". But that was also almost like 30 years ago now.
>>741346336Anon, Hojo and Cloud explicitly tell us it's Sephiroth controlling Jenova in OG. There was never anything ambiguous about it beyond some people wanting Sephiroth to be a poor victim.
>>741346553>Nooo, he's too pretty to be evil :-(
>>741346965Pretty much, yeah. Though I admit it'd be cool to see more of Jenova's manipulation and agency. Ever Crisis has dabbled into it and it's probably the best characterisation Jenova has ever received.
>>741347091Sephiroth makes for a much more personal enemy for Cloud, especially with their parallels. If it's just Jenova LARPing as Sephiroth, then it's just Cloud fighting some space parasite. It's cool, but they're just so utterly different from one another that Cloud may as well just be fighting a tornado or something. You can hate a tornado for destroying your village and killing your family, but it's still a fucking tornado. Its lack of humanity takes away from some of the personal conflict.It's sort of why Squall VS Ultimecia isn't all that enthralling a rivalry. Ultimecia is just, like, a phenomenon. She fucked everything up, fucked up Cloud's life, but she's too inhuman to make for a compelling antagonist.
>>741347339I agree but can we take a moment to make clear that 99% of what makes these characters good actually comes from material made after the original game, which was never that good and led many people to see the characters wrong. Their incorrect headcanons persist to this day, and they refuse to engage with the material that actually shows the characters properly.
>>741297234FF7 was a 1997 game, anon.Gamefaqs started a year earlier, and was already well-known(for the time) for final fantasy faqs. Some of the 90s guides are still on the site in fact.
>>741347339That's true. Something I haven't really thought about before. Like Lavos in CT. For all the love the game gets, I've never seen anyone really invested in Lavos that way. It's just there and does what it does.Kinda what made people angry at wild arms 2, as well, putting aside the lord blazer issue. The whole game was set up with actual villains from the beginning, then near the end they just wipe them all and go "yeah, no, the real big bad is an encroaching parallel dimension with no perceivable consciousness. Go kill it now too." People got actually mad.
What do you think they'll do for Jenova-DEATH to make it stand out? Lifeclinger already felt like blowing their load.
>>741347994I mean in fairness to Lavos, a deep personal conflict is impossible when your protagonist has no personality.
>>741346018But main 7r models are good. I like that they are not 100% realistic
So I know Part 3's apparently gonna have weapon skins. I just hope they bring back past weapons as skins too. I miss Iron Blade. I might like it better than the Buster Sword.
>>741348708It's a shame the world is populated by ugly low quality NPCs
>>741348932Yep. Those ugly afro nog hairstyle make me puke. It's just so fucking ugly
>>741347994Lavos is probably the best executed "generic world destroyer" final boss, mostly because he has one hell of a presentation. You actually see what Lavos can do and how every time he appears, complete disaster follows. It helps that the game stops pretending Magus is the main villain once Lavos appears, and that isn't even that far into the game.
>>741348932>low quality NPCsI love the Remake Series, but the random NPCs objectively look like ass. It is the single thing that I absolutely despise in Remake and Rebirth.
>>741350536Folks, we may have found our one valid criticism.
>>741350536I wouldn't mind them being low quality if it weren't nogs and using the most boring clothesWhere are the steam punk clothes kino?
>>741345775The idea behind a lot of his Loveless babbling is that it's a mantra-like attempt to keep some focus in his physically degrading brain, but the way they wrote it is weird. The CC Ultimania has some storyboards of his pre-crazy era where he talks normally, I have no idea why they cut it.
>>741351735Once you do some research, even the bad Genesis scenes become good. The power of lore and looking into things.
>>741351910Nothing about FF7s expanded world is actually "bad" once you discover the meaning and intention behind them.
>>741324532>A: Oh and one last thing, Cloud.>C: You can't keep me from getting drunk>A: You gotta forgive yourself for what went down the other day.>C: God, you are so annoying>C: ...Okay.
>>741347662>can we take a moment to make clear that 99% of what makes these characters good actually comes from material made after the original gameNo, zoomer, we can't.
>>741256175this farming of nostalgia is still going on?
>>741351735Not even a normal post like this keeps him in check, damn
>>741355234The industry is dying please understand.
>>741355387You have to admit, I am very good at annoying you with your own opinions.
>>741339820Lost
>>741355234?The 3rd part FF7 Revelations was announced 2 weeks ago along with Tifa guest starring in Street Fighter
>>741356689Who are the two blonde girls supposed to be?
>>741358972Thanks for asking, this gives me an opportunity to talk more about my work and advertise it yet again.
>>741335258Aerith was also in Advent Children, so I doubt anybody is suprrised.
>>741358972?Elena and Scarlet>>741359597Hello, virgin boy
>>741355234Nobody's forcing you to engage with any of it.
>>741324532I think we might be able to save her this time. Right after the altar scene, we get Zack urging Cloud to save Aerith. It's all either one big red herring which would be disappointing, or it's all set up to bring her back. I don't know why the ENG translations didn't properly pic-related, but I think it's a huge sign of whats to come.
So many people quit rebirth after getting raped by this guy.
>>741361919>punisher mode to counter>counterfire to counter the fire howl attackOH JEEZ SO HARDfucking normies
>>741362039cloud is cheat mode. use aerith or tifa
>>741361919If you can't beat this dude, then you should just quit gaming.
>>741361919>could in partyYou didn't play the game.
>>741362347Tifa is easy since she can dish damage quick to reduce the wolf energy fast and if you block he cant touch youAerith is tricky, she clearly cant evade him or do damage quick so you have to be play extremely defensive with and when the wolf uses the fire attack ,just block, nothing fancy. It doesnt do that much damage if you block. If you have the green ward it becomes much more easy to nuke with fire
>>741279140sex
>>741256175Has he confirmed Aerith's resurrection yet?
>>741299642>Cid without his cigarette
>>741339024In the OG Aerith, Cloud, and Vincent were the best mages, Tifa was a pretty shiny one.
>>741313040
Cloud is saving Aerith this time, and earning his happy ending
>>741364654
>>741299642Where is Aerith?
>>741365131the empty slot
>>741364056>sex with Commander Mommy
>>741365325OG mitsuru voices her...
