>Has an immense amount of content now>rapes Civ7 in the gameplay department>Completely and utterly ignored by /v/it do be like that
>>741264550Maybe they shouldn't have dumbed it down from Planetfall, then
>>741264550The game is good but they not elevating it with these DLCs. We dont need more 1 and done story missions and furry races. How about Galactic Empire Mode from Planetfall?
You know why.
>>741264550waiting for a sale, ive been a fan of the series for decades
>>741265998It's on sale right now.
>>741264550combat is painfully slow
>>741264550It runs like shit on my PC. Also I liked AoW1, SM, and 3 more.
>>741266267true, but its still a bit pricey
>>741264550It's too fucking expensive. I'm poor and I don't want to pay $100+ for this shit. I love planet fall btw.
>>741266584>$100+You guys buy Paradox DLCs?
the way things play barely feel unique when all you do is stack transformations to stat check the enemythe eldritch things were pretty cool i guess with the mind control spells
>>741264550Tbh, even if I had my gaming pc again, a lot of the content is just gated by dlc. I actually like the game, its just paradox being paradox, idk how they managed to not do it to M&B honestly
>>741265079There’s a legacy mode I quite enjoy that>>741266897Whats the best way to
>>741264550Its like stellaris expensive to get 90% of the content.
>>741267337To what? To WHAT?
>>741266897im not running russian exes im sorry bro
>>741266897Can you teach us how to use creamapi or other dlc unlocker?First step is installing the base game from steam, after that what should I do with the pirated DLC, install it to the same steam folder? Then run the creamapi?
>>741265998>paradox>salePirate or wait forever, tourist
The problem with 4x is every play through after the first or second feels exactly the same. Sure you may have a different races and other various things but they just end up feeling like cosmetics.
>>741264550Behold! The work of one who consorts with beasts!
>>741266897>>741267763I bought the game but I play the pirated copy with all the DLC. Too much of a lazy fuck to figure out how to unlock dlc your way. This is how I semi support the devs, but I'm not paying triple for the extra shit, I'm fucking poor
>>741264550>Yet worse than shadow magic in every aspectLol yikes
>>741267803Not a problem with the Master of Mana mod in civ4. But generating a fun world to play is a dice throw
>>741267763>download CreamAPI>make sure cream_api.ini has the correct appid and all the DLCs listed; this is usually done for you if you get it from the game's thread on the csrinru forum>put that .ini and the two steam_api DLLs into the game's Steam folderIt's been a while, but I think that's it. Most if not all Paradox games come with their DLCs preinstalled regardless of whether you bought it, so you shouldn't have to go out of your way to get the files. You can check by going to the content folder in SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Age of Wonders 4\Content.>>741268206I plan on properly buying the DLCs eventually, but hell if I do it for full price.
>>741264550Good, this place is a shithole and I don't want it anywhere near this gem
When they give too many choices during race creation I get choice paralysis
>>741268731To me it just makes the races come off as some meaningless grey sludge
>>741264550I thought it was an action game. It was boring
>>741264550>Not a gacha>Not a console swordslop game>Not a shooterWhy are you surprised /v/ ignores it?
>>741267763I'm pretty sure creamapi is dead.
>>741264550I like that game but wish it had more roleplaying like Stellaris.
>>741264550I pirate it once a year to see new tomes and rulers. Its a fun game, but It dont have replaybility. I think its the same with most 4x titles, games comes out, I play with orfinal 4 factions and drop it. Dlc comes out with 1-2 new factions, play them and drop it again. Rinse and repeat.The only ppl that I can somewhat understand are multifags because for them the game is about finding and wxploating the meta, for roleplayers game is just a one time offer.
>>741265079No, you'll get more piecemeal DLC that involves 1-3 more tomes for research, a bunch of extra randomization options, and maybe another story realm or 2, and pay 10-20 dollars for it. Face it, AoW4 has become Fantasy Stellaris.
>>741264550Would I enjoy it as a Dominions player? The only other 4x games I've played are from the Endless series, which I did not enjoy at all.
>>741264550i dont like the tree changes seems incredibly pointless like a blatant nerf to fun.
>>741272852Depends on how much you like tactical turn based combat, because the Age of Wonders series is pretty heavy on combat, heroes, and generally has less emphasis on the empire building than other 4X games. So much so that until the more recent titles, the diplomacy with other players and neutral factions was basically non-existent. Still is for the most part, but you'll win most of your games through conquest long before you meet the criteria for a magic (research) or expansion victory.
>>741264550Everything being customable turned it into a very generic fantasy with no canon races. You no longer have goblins or undead and shit. You can now just create undead goblins riding unicorns and fighting to protect the nature as druids and name them Glup Shittos. There's also no story campaigns, they just add new customable race abilities and sometimes add a single half assed campaign map. Stellaris basically ruined the Age of Wonders brand as it's lost its own identity and flavor.
>>741264550maybe try /vst/ next time sir we don't play videogames here
>>741272852AoW4's actually pretty light in the 4x department. It would be closer to something like Heroes of Might and Magic if you've ever played any of those. Like the other anon said your enjoyment hinges a lot on the tactical combat, you can auto-resolve it and even zoom in to watch the battle if you want the hands-off Dominions experience but that works best with the gruggiest units since the AI's not great using everything well. I would guess you'd probably just want to stick with Dominions though
For me it is SpellForce: Conquest of Eo
>>741264550Everything in this game looks like it was covered in vaseline
>>741264550I like it kinda, but the devs are going the wrong way with this, they keep adding more bloat instead of revising diplomacy and AI which is sorely needed. It's also one of those games with a gorillion DLC which puts me off buying even just the base game because of all the content I'll be missing out on.I'll pirate it eventually.
>>741273047>Everything being customable turned it into a very generic fantasy with no canon racesExactly, races are just a skin, that's it. The ease of customization kinda defeats the purpose of all the choices.Dame applies to Stellaris, every trait is a boring modifier that can be removed and added at will with genetics.
>>741276443In addition to their in-house strategy games, Age of Wonders 4 is literally the only Paradox published game that prints money while rest of their publishing wing has more or less crashed and burned. Triumph Studios will be in the Paradox DLC mines for a while.
While I do agree the old system was a bit much, I still wish there were ways to get more fortification-health through books.
i enjoyed 3 more
>>741277116AoW3 had better tits for sure.I miss the nymphs from that game - and the succubus.
>>741264550>Completely and utterly ignored by /v/keep it that way please
>>741264550this game is really badidk if its comparable to civ7, but its a cartoon baby game in its own right
>>741277539I loved it how they made sex robots into an unit in Planetfall.
>>741264550i prefer finished games not paracocks bloated messy, infinite dlc treadmill with dubious integration to game mechanics AI cant even use.
>We fixed the game!!1>oh nice I'll play it again>you just have to buy $100 worth of dlc!!!1>no thanks
>>741264550It's good but I honestly think a lot of my enjoyment from it is being I have a tf fetish. This game has infinite potential for sex mods that include race transformation spells in new tomes.
>still mogs the rest 50 years laterlooool
>>741264550looked inferior to 3 and costs moreand shit like this >>741277939maybe I'll get a complete edition on super sale someday
>>741277939>game costs moneyno shit
>>741264550Fun game, I like it.
>>741264550Play the good Age of Wonders games.
>>741264550>Completely and utterly ignored by /v/no gooner content also woke yadayada
>>741282246It actually has sexy sword & sorcery styled outfits. The character models just aren't anything too special.
>>741264550Aow shadow magic and aow 3 are so much better than 4 it isn't even funny.I played every single aow game.4 is the worst.
>>741282730
>>741282730That outfit is the only one thoughever.
>>741285281The clothes of vampire women are also pretty hot (but paywalled behind DLC).
Age of Wonders 4 lore is a disaster and its story missions are complete garbage. I don't even know why are they even making them, if you steal ideas from Warlock 2 maybe you shouldn't add campaigns in the first place.
>>741264550I liked the game, but I don't know, the DLC is not interesting to me. It mostly just seems to add new spells (fine) and leader types (fine) but games like Total War or Stellaris do a better job with creating DLCs with novel mechanics or races or things that I feel like enhance the game. For the most part, the game just feels like it is adding in some more options with every DLC.Also, I beat most of the campaign levels and I don't find random skirmishes to be satisfying like in Civ, Total War, or Stellaris.
>>741267730Sorry my comment got cut offI was asking whats the best way to*acquire*The dlcs then?
>>741288169Free updates bring more to the table than the fucking paid DLC,
>>741277939All the stuff that "fix" the game is added to the core game even without DLC.DLC is just tome+culture.And I guess racial skins. The racial abilities are added to the core game, so all you lose is the ability to be a furry, you can still play a human with all the same abilities without the DLC
Michiel van den Bos' music sucks, what happened to him?
>>741286017It's true, but for whatever reason they added some granny-panties to the vampire-model.
>>741290852You're wrong, the music is great in AoW 4.
new DLC is pretty good
with gog-games dead where do i get this and all it's DLC now?
>>741276171I need to try that but I heard the events are all canned and there are 'right' choices for all of them. Plus I still don't know if the dlc is worth it for a newbie or should be disabled because it generates a map for your story campaign I guess and I don't know how long a campaign takes, if it's so long it's better as a one and done or if it's like an AoW skirmish and it's just a few hours then you go again
>>741292702Grab the base game on sale sometime and play through the campaign, after that you know if you want more. DLCs do offer variety even if the map is always persistent (except if you enable random maps from one DLC). The map is still big enough that different starting locations alter the experience even if you play on that. It is all so cheap on sale it is worth it even if you don't replay it infinitely.
>>741292914That does clarify things some, thanks bud. May try to get that rolling today
Which AoW is closest to Master of Magic?
>>741293809The first one, duh.
>>741292358Is this modded?
>>741264550My issue with the game is I feel like every map plays the same and culture doesn't really change that for me.
Do people even play this game or they just make wacky leaders for Reddit posts?
>>741294772
This game always feels like it's a mile wide and an inch deep, the factions and such you set up never really feel that different.
>>741295341I havent played it in a while because the dlc doesnt really change or increase the depth of the gameplay loop
Space babes acquired, time to goon>>741272852AoW4 is a lot closer to Dominions than the Endless games, although it contains a lot more 4X in its DNA than Dominions. I would say the real deciding factor is how much you'd like to make a fantasy character and the civilization they lead and command them to kill shit (AKA how much would you like to play fantasy Stellaris with less grand strategy and more wargame)
>>741295759Because everything comes down to draft, gold, mana, and spell slots.
>>741272852>Would I enjoy it as someone with shit taste?Probably
>>741296339filtered.
>>741294316Are you being sarcastic?
>>741264669They even dumbed down Planetfall itself with patches.
>>741264550Fuck I remember I bought this solely to get an anon on here some files from the workshopI tried it once but dislike the fact you could only have I think six units in a fight/per hero?How good is necromancy, with modsis it anything like dominions series where I can use actual good spells to rape the enemy outside of fights
>>741297808You can only have 6 units per army, but you can have up to 3 friendly armies in a fight so 18 units. Anti-army strategic spells are only good as debuffs. They don’t do much damage and cost a ton of casting points.
>>741298359if you have enough magic and have some already charged you can rape enemy armiesthey are helpful in situation where power isnt in your favor
>>741297808>is it anything like dominions series where I can use actual good spells to rape the enemy outside of fightsThere was a time when they added a subclass of the astral civvies, that gave you a second mana reserve that you could use to instantly cast spells at a much higher cost. But there was no cast limit, so you could store secondary mana for the entire match, siege some city, throw a trillion lightning bolts the turn after the siege was done, and walk into an undefended city.Naturally it was nerfed because "muh balans"Other than that, spells are more like harassment than rape
>>741298483*the turn before the siege was done
>>741297808>is it anything like dominions series where I can use actual good spells to rape the enemy outside of fightsWorld map army target spells won't delete enemy armies for you but you can definitely tip the scales with them. If you save, for instance, a lightning torrent in reserve, then cast both the reserve and a fresh one at an enemy army, you'll do some serious damage and debuff the army's lightning resist massively. Some tomes actually rely on world map spells to work, like flameherald's consecration.
>>741264550too much high fantasy for me personally, I prefer my 4Xs to be straight forward or sci-fi
>>741264550I bought the game cheaply for like 4 bucks off some keyseller (so propably stolen) and then just pirated all the DLCs using creamapi installer.
QRD on picrel? Do I need to track down a download for this old version or can I ignore this post as skill issue
>>741265079That would require them to be actually competent and not just being a bunch of DEi hires.
>>741266584Just pirate the DLCs anon, its not that hard>>741266897The replied you're getting made me realize just many retarded Zoomers are on this board now. Retards cant even do basic copy paste and/or creamapi a paradox game anymore.
>>741300572>different movementmounted and unmounted units have the same world map movement range, although floating and flying units still have an advantage and mounted units still have much more movement in combat, they changed this because all the mpfags though that non-mounted units sucked>different damage calcattacks now attack defense or resistance based on the attack skill's attack type tag, previously defense would only block physical damage and resistance would block everything else making resistance far superior as the game went on, now no matter what damage is being done a skill tagged melee or missile will target defense and a skill tagged magic will target defense>diplomacyIDK>empire developmentthey reworked the whole tree to offer more choices and make affinities less shoehorned into roles ex: order had a bunch of skills related to vassalization, now you have an alternative if you have order affinity but aren't planning on vassal swarming
>>741300995>offer more choicesIt feels like they just forced me into using imperium to get heroes faster since all the early choices now feel even more dogshit
>>741303009This argument only holds for orderMaterium and nature have insanely good early game
>>741272974>>741276091>>741295819Just grabbed it + all the DLC except newest for free, I'll tell you all what I think soon
>>741303686Cool, I guess only materium nature and dark get to be good now. this change is ass.
>>741300737I was gonna say wheres your proof but the fact they are selling a string of plushies nobody asked for kinda confirms it.
>>741303009I don't know if you know this, but all of the -% production/gold cost nodes apply to every building that gives their respective resource. So a production building discount applies to the architect's library replacement in addition to their workshop.
>>741292502In job applications
>>741264550We were able to mod in on our factions but then they nipped that in the bud to sell more DLCs of retarded factions that don't really make sense.Fuck them.
>>741300572if you've never played the game before why would you even care? how would you even notice the difference?
>>741300572>Its just another aggro nerf in disguiseLol fucking faggots.
>>741310832The post makes it sound like the game was ruined. You're right I wouldn't notice the difference, but I would notice that the game is shit (if the post is true) and would uninstall it. Instead, I can download the old, good (supposedly), version and have a fun game to play
I expected the combat to be something like Field of Glory. Sorry, OP.
>>741311125desu I'd just pirate the latest version. The only change from the last few patches I can think of that I dislike is cultural units "promoting" instead of evolving just to break synergy with the tome of evolution. I wasn't playing at the time but I'm guessing with this and the overworld movement changes feudal culture was top dog for an uncomfortably long moment.
>>741264550Its got a consistent playerbase and theres nothing to really discuss. Wish the expansions were cheaper, I wont even play half of that shit but Id like to have it in the game.
>>741300418Id like their sci fi game to have the amount of content this has with what you could male.
>>741295819Is that a racial unit?
>>741314973Yeah from the new chaos tome. I think the outfit is also available to wizard kings.
>>741315068>racialEven more reason to stick to small handfull of forms I always pick.>also for wizzard kingThat's cool.
>>741276802with how ass eu5 is almost half a year after release, expect another 300 dlcs for hoi4 stellaris and aow4, poor little Johan need all the help he can get
>>741264550I just finished necro campaign. The idea and gameplay is cool, but ui is fucking horrendous. fucking civ6 has much cleaner controls. Also its has the same problem as stellaris, where you see all this content and think its gonna be good roleplay game but in the end every factions is played mostly in the same way, and all the differences are mostly superficial.
>>741315695Because at the end of the day, unit and resource production triumphs over tactics.
>>741315695Thesee retards keep trying to balance around the non existant pvp and most of their blunderscomes from that.
>>741264550Like all Paradox games it's a good time with a DLC unlocker. I kind of liked 3 having a more story focused campaign over 4's being one off, but it's really fun to customize your civ and the meta progression is a good idea.
>>741315376It's a magic fighter and it can inflict distracted on melee attackers so consider arcane focus and sneaky if you want to use them for killing, or hideous stench if you want to use them to seduce the enemy (lol)
>>741316217even if there was no pvp at all, the concept is still the same. You build up cities, level up heroes and go whack stuff. the choice boils down to which hand you will use to wank and which one to wipe your ass with. there will never be any asymmetrical balance cause there are a fuckton of factions already and doing different mechanics for them is dwarf-fortress tier task, which will set you back in development time so back, half-life 3 will be released sooner. on the other hand you cant have faction customization and gameplay variety at the same time. endless space attempted to do something like that but result was meh
>>741317169different mechanics that they blatantly nerf and remove. If they just let all hang out you would have a point, but they choose to fuck shit up on purpose. there is no excuse
>>741305572>darkyou mean shadow?
>>741316309>hideous stench if you want to use them to seduceHow I feel whenever I stumble into the perfume section of the mall.
>>741288236either just pirate the complete game with all dlcs, or buy the base game on a sale and use creamapi to unlock all DLCs in steam
Age of Wonders was known for, and best due to, its campaign. Ive heard there just isnt one in 4, and even Shadow Magic and 2 were downgrades, so I cant imagine 3 was as great as the original.
>>741264550I come back to play it every so often. Fun game, but I don't have much to say about 4X games, I'm pretty casual when it comes to them.
>>741319062>Ive heard there just isnt one in 4Instead of a full on campaign, there's story realms, which>sometimes follow up the story of a previous one, but many are standalone>can be played with most factions including custom ones, only certain leaders are blocked for story reasons (like not being able to play sundren whenever she shows up in the middle of the story)>are randomly generated, but have a very rigid RMG ruleset to the point where there's rarely any major divergence in the game flow between playthroughsI personally enjoy them but I can see why someone wouldn't especially coming off of previous games.
when and where do I build outposts? am I supposed to be putting them next to Ancient Wonders specifically?
>>741282730Yeah, the female models are all missing some assets to really make that sword and sorcery outfit pop. Must've had some very specific budget cuts...
>>741324016From what I've noticed resources and ancient wonders tend to spawn in clusters so whenever you see one that your capital won't be able to reach in a reasonable amount of time then set one down and probably turn it into a city if you're not city capped yet. I'd probably start looking for spots from turn 1 as you're clearing things out. You can also use outposts offensively by setting them up near an enemy and putting a teleporter on the work camp extension.
>>741324016You can build them anywhere that isn't adjacent to another outpost or city. I recommend placing it next to a resource node or site of wonder, that way you can immediately expand into the province with the resource/wonder and for the nodes you can use them as additional research centers, magic production, or gold mine so you can use those later to make the fancy buildings that give you the real big benefits. Swapping the production of a province should be something you do fairly often to get as much out of a cities provinces as you can.
>>741264550>Still no trait that lets you build one mega-city.Come on...
>>741324880That does exist, as a realm trait though. It forces ALL players to play with exactly 1 city, but if I recall you can have any number of outposts. You can't subjugate other cities and only have the option to raze it.
Also any news about future updates? This is the last DLC announced at the moment, and I really hope we'll get more. I know that Paradox only stops supporting games in very extreme cases, but still...>>741325017I know, and it sucks. I just really love building tall, and the Cultists from Endless Legend are probably my absolute favorite faction in the genre.
>>741325263Well initially the game only had 4 DLC planned, that sold above expectations....and we kept getting more DLC after that. So it's unlikely it will be the "last" DLC for the game. Just the last of the current batch. On the one hand, I won't turn my nose to extra shit to play with, but it only solidifies a problem the game has had since launch where all these options only further dilute any identity the cultures, races, and/or factions have when anything can be literally anything with no real limiters to it.
how do I make the spider book work?
>>741325735Add more spider.
>>741325489>Well initially the game only had 4 DLC plannedI seriously doubt that. Paradox just doesn't work that way.
>>741324880Nomads are semi-tall since they have a reduced city cap and can slurp up resource nodes. I usually stick to only my capital with them and maybe absorb a high-value enemy city at some point that I mostly ignoreYou can also sort of justify building tall on other cultures now doing an Astral+Nature build with Talented Collecters with the new Astral rite that spawns a magic material in your capital and Nature capstone that increases pop cap to 45I feel you though, Chosen Destroyers being the only TRUE single city trait since the game's launch sucks
>>741295759the unique parts are in:>culture>hero type>color of books you chooseAnd I guess your choice of map/challenges. And there are some unique builds, but overrall you have to really try, to squeeze the uniqueness
>>741325839Paradox does, but Triumph doesn't. Their previous AoW games had at most 1 or 2 expansions and that was it. AoW4 is an oddity but it's likely Paradox really did demand they keep just producing shit for this one game specifically.
>>741326012>Nomads are semi-tall since they have a reduced city cap and can slurp up resource nodesI see. I didn't even check what that DLC added because I'm not really into nomads and those fucking rabbits lol
>still no homm 3/4 or disciples 2 replacement
>>741326458Wasn't there a HoMM game that literally just released into Early Access recently?
>>741326225Oh, I forgot that Paradox isn't the developer. Still, I hope they keep churning out DLCs like it's a Paradox game, because RPG/civ hybrid games like this are pretty rare these days. The only alternative is ENDLESS Legend, and I'm not really feeling it and Amplitude has always had trouble making DLCs that aren't garbage.>>741326458New HOMM is pretty good but it's in Early Access and is more like HOMM 5.
>>741321080The original featured twin campaigns, featuring the elves and dark elves. Both campaigns had splitting paths that would align you with various factions. It was ambitious and very well done.Its a shame we dont see such effort put into campaign design anymore.
>>741326617Amplitude is currently having trouble not making a game that isn't shit, so that's a bit redundant right now.
>>741326916Did something happen? I played Endless Legend 2 a little when it came out in early access and thought it was okay but AOW4 is way better.
>>741326539>>741326617I tried but it ain't it. Too soulless and unengaging. The King's Bounty Legend games were pretty good at scratching that itch though.Disciples 2 wasn't a great game but the art style and the setting/atmosphere carried it hard. The last installment looks like some gook anime game.
>>741264550How does it compare to Planetfall?
>>741327270>Too soulless and unengagingIt's not perfect but I really can't call it soulless.
>>741264550Civlikes are not interesting. People who play this shit are fucked in the head.
>>741324880chosen destroyers merciless slavers
>>741327458The mobile game artstyle and the sloppy writting just break it for me. It doesn't have the immersive world autism of homm 3 or the amazing story and music of homm 4.
>>741327270I don't really see the soulless part. The factions all stand out with their own unique art and playstyle, the models look like a vague mix of 3D models mimicking 2D sprites, the terrain is varied but still very readable at a glance. Biggest issue I have with it is the double left click to issue commands at all, and that it sometimes issues commands I don't want when I try to select a different hero or city on the map itself and not the tooltip on the side. So the UI could still use some work.
>>741327657I guess it's a matter of taste. I've always liked Homm 5 more so maybe that has something to do with it.
>>741264669God I wish they would make a Planetfall 2
>>741327773Yeah probably, I never liked homm 5.
The only good 4x ever made is the dominions series, because its designed from the ground up for multiplayer.Playing against braindead ai is the worst and most boring thing about 4x games, and the games become rote, solved, and play exactly the same after your first couple of playthroughs.There's no challenge or anything to discover anymore, nor will the ai even react to the cool strategies you could potentially employ.
>>741327270HoMM Olden Era's ugly, samey low contrast art style is the worst part of the game. I like the new magic sytem, like how they moved back to hex's, loved that they kept the sidegrade system from HoMM5, and like the mutually exclusive skills. But as soon as I get to the world map, I vomit. They know its bad but their solution to fix it was just to have s[acebar highlight interactables.
>>741328267I don't get how people play these games just for the multiplayer. Imo the most fun part is role-playing and trying out different races/traits and all that, even if they're not that strong, it's fun trying to make them work.
>>741264550Too expensive, thanks to shit regional pricing.>MEGA DISCOUNT GOING ON RIGHT NOW, MY NIGGERS!!!! 50% OFF!!!>even with a discount, it's still four times as expensive as an indie game, just as expensive as Civ VI without a discount, etc
>>741264550I got this for like 20$. Pirated all dlc. 300 hours later it's probably my favorite strategy game of the last decade. Gonna give a cult of tyranny with the new gluttonous tome+beacon for super immortals.
>>741264550let me know when they finish making the game
>Click on guy>Expect him to say something cool like SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS!>Just a generic "huh? whuh?" every timeFeels wrong...
