Halo 3 was the peak of the series. Prove me wrong.1. It Had the Largest and Most Active Community* At its height, Halo 3 regularly had hundreds of thousands of players online.* It dominated Xbox Live and became a cultural phenomenon for Xbox 360 owners.* Many players remember hopping online after school or work and always finding full matches instantly.2. Forge Changed Everything* Halo 3 introduced Forge mode, allowing players to create custom maps and game modes.* This led to classics like Duck Hunt, Fat Kid, Jenga, Trash Compactor, and countless community creations.* It extended the game’s lifespan for years beyond the campaign.3. Theater Mode Was Revolutionary* Players could save, rewatch, and share gameplay clips.* For 2007, this was incredibly advanced and helped create a huge community of machinima creators and content makers.4. The Campaign Was an Epic Conclusion* It finished the original Master Chief and Covenant storyline.* Missions like “The Ark,” “The Covenant,” and “Halo” are still considered some of the best in the franchise.* The ending with Master Chief drifting through space became iconic.5. Multiplayer Had Near-Perfect Balance* The Battle Rifle became one of the most beloved weapons in FPS history.* Maps like Guardian, The Pit, Valhalla, Narrows, High Ground, and Last Resort remain fan favorites.* Equipment such as Bubble Shields, Grav Lifts, and Power Drains added strategy without overwhelming gameplay.6. Custom Games Were Legendary* Before modern user-generated content became common, Halo 3 players spent entire nights playing custom games.* The social aspect was just as important as ranked multiplayer.7. It Was the Height of Bungie’s Halo* Many fans believe Bungie perfectly balanced Halo’s gameplay formula in Halo 3.* It built on Halo 2’s multiplayer while improving matchmaking, customization, and community features.
>>741268170>Prove me wrong.I can't. You are 100% correct
I disagree with the ending, I think it sucks. It's set up as a to be continued when they didn't even make another game. Also, no fucking way the flood is gone. Doesn't make any sense at all. The story is written like the flood is gone with even a character saying something like it's done chief, the flood, the covenant... like no, all it takes is the gravemind not being braindead and leaving spores to spread out around everywhere. They wrote too big of a threat and weren't able to conjure an actual answer to end it
3 is easily rhe worst Bungie made Halo. Id still take it any daybof the week over 4, 5 and Infinite.But even Reach and ODST are better. Only proto-zoomers who started playing video games in 2007 are attached to 3 via nostalgia.
>>741268170yourenotwrongyourejustincorrect.halo2isthebesthalobecauseitstheonlyoneyoucandual ("duel" if youre a pro gamer)wieldneedlersanddualwieldneedlersisjustneat
>>741268503Why?
>it was popular>you could reareange objects wirh a strict memory limit in a level with no geometry or from scratch level creation>you can save videos that no one cares about>story (the weakest of bungies era)>mp, far worse than 1z 2, and reach>custom games that were just carryovers from the ingenuity of what people did in 1 and 2 but eith far less creativity, map freedom, and quality maps>height, lmao3 was the nadir of Bungie Halo
Honestly wanna say 2 out of contrarianism. But also kind >>741268559
>>741268624equipmentlame weaponsremoval of dual wieldshort campaignlinear levels wrapped in bubble wrap because they were afraid of people glitching like in 1 and 2story, dialogue, writing are boring and uninterestingmp map design was blandcustom games and forge amounted to nothing new from what was already in 2 and 1, other than griffball which was lame as fuckhad zero personality unlike 1, 2, odst, and reachi just replayed all of them on recently doing laso for the first time and my opinion was solidified. im sorry you have nice memories being 10 years old in 2007 playing your first halo game on your first video game console, no one will take that away. but objective comparison of the games puts 3 at the bottom of bungies halo output. im sorry
Even as a teen, I preferred Halo 2 to Halo 3. I was still in high school when 3 came out.
>>741268864>equipmentThis is kinda bad yeah>lame weaponsHow so?>removal of dual wieldNo?>short campaignNo shorter than Reach and ODST>linear levelsThe actual levels aren't any more linear than Halo 2>writingSubjective>bland map designHow so?>custom games and forgeCompletely false>zero personalityHow so?
>>741268170I think mostly everyone agrees. Anyone who prefers Halo 2 should at least be able to admit that H3 was the best balance of quality and budget. Which then scaled worse over time as the games went on culminating in halo infinite.
>>741268864>removal of dual wieldThat was Reach. >custom games and forge amounted to nothing new from what was already in 2 and 1, other than griffball which was lame as fuck This is wrong.
halo might be a rare case of 3 > 2 > 1
personally I liked 2 more because Ascencion was a god tier map and me and my friends probably spent over 400 hours deathmatching on it.
>>741268170You are wrong. Halo 3 wasn’t the peak of the series, it was the peak of gaming in general
>>741268170>4. The Campaign Was an Epic ConclusionThe story was unfortunately a let-down, nothing really happens until the portal opens in the sixth fucking mission and there are only nine missions.From a story point of view, did these levels need to be five different levels:1. Sierra 117 2. Crow's Nest 3. Tsavo Highway4. The Storm 5. FloodgateAll of them are just so that Master Chief can get to the excavation site on time to be there for a cutscene. Except the last I guess.
>>741268864These are fair, losing double needler and stuff like the scarab gun are toughH3’s retarded corner monkeys don’t really make up for it I think H3 has much better set pieces and better payoff, the only mission in H2 that’s better than the typical H3 mission is the one with the arbiter you know the one, and H3’s ending is much stronger than the brute platform fight but at least the gravity hammer was depicted very well in that fight I never liked how the grav hammer basically de facto beat the sword in H3 so that’s a mark against it Dismissing forge/creative stuff is a bad argument custom games were the lifeblood of the game and theater was great for the machinima era, zombies cmonH2 is more fun to play with a small group of people H3 is more fun online
>>741269394>I never liked how the grav hammer basically de facto beat the sword in H3 so that’s a mark against it>t. can’t bait out the hammer
for people who didnt grow up with halo this is how it generally went>halo 1oh hey anon has that new xbox down the street lets ride our bikes down there and play this cool new game called Halo. we can play coop and hook up our consoles tonplay 8 player multiplayer! just us nerds who play games. maybe we can try a warthog launch or get on top of sidewinder>halo 2wow did you see that cool e3 gameplay? were going to earth and can dual wield, and its going to be online! us nerds can play this really long campaign in coop, look ill show you some secret skulls that have special powers, or we can get the secret scarab gun!in multiplayer we can superbounce, make giant holograms, warthog/ghost launch and troll people or just fuck around its great. hey people made clever custom games like hide and seek on ivory tower or zombies on foundation, we all go in one room and try to barricade it lol>halo 3oh well theres no more dual wield, but theres mines and bubblr shields...ok. all of a sudden everyone at school, not just gamer nerds, are talking about it. but theyre all serious. i was goofing around driving the elephant on top of the othet elephant for shenanigans during CTF but normie anon got mad and said "i dont play games for fun, i dont ser the point. i just want to win and rank up". the story is ok i guess, but like mp they put invisible walls everywhere and only have like 2 easter eggs, so no more out of bounds, glitching, easter egg hunting, or fun shenanigans. oh look they instiutionalized the zombies game mode as an official playlist and renamed infection, now all the normies are acting like 3 came up with it. oh forgez you can move some boxes i guess. someone made griffball, which is just soccer....ok..the story, is ohh theyre really forcing this cortana quasi love thing down out throats and having unskippable fullscreen cortana and gravemind speeches and then...oh theyre doing the warthog run thing again but lamer..oh its over already?
>>741269523You can win on mind games but with two equally skilled players the hammer wins, unless there’s some tech I’m not aware of
>>741269538>odstwhoa this is pretty cool, you play as a human who is more vulnerable than a spartan, theres an open hub area and cool rainy ambience. simple but stylistic and cool>reachof its gonna be like fall of reach covering the history with more spartans! hey they mp maps and modes are kinda fun
>>741268864>>741269538Why are you repeating that Halo 3 doesn't have dual wielding? Have you even played the game?
>>741269613They removed dual wielding needlers but that’s it
>>741268503Halo 3 is my favorite video game of all time, with the only one close being Pokemon Emerald. Coincidentally both games have amazing soundtracks and are extremely replayable.
>>741268709>he didn't spend hours rewatching the cool shit he pulled off in solo Legendary from every anglesovlless...
>>741269104>linearcrows next, cortana>subjectivenot really. stop with the 2014 subjective vs objective nonsense>bland, how sotheyre just worse and more empty versions of halo 1 or 2 maps, certain sections designed with equipmemt in mind rather than geometry or weaponry. sand trap is just flat nothingness with a block full of holes in the middle. >no personalityhalo 1 is the intro to the universe. youre on a ship, then the ring, then a beach and hidden alien construct, then in the snow, a couple horror like levels in a swamp and a labryinth. atmosphere and themes of grandeur, adventure, science fiction, etc.halo 2 goes to earth while humanity is losing. set in urban african cities and more human militaristic feel. incouded going on covenant ships. shows more of the covenant leadership and infighting. prophets and elites have stellar voice acting."that armor suits you but it cannot hide that mark" "nothing ever will" "you are the arbitor, but these are MY elites, their lives matter to me yours does not" "that makes two of us". somber perserverance feel.odst is melancholic, in the rain, about survival. reach is a look at the historic planrt and how it got overrun3 is...a forest, a parking garage, halo ring areas, and just general halo like levels i guess. 1 level in the anus of a flood. overdramatic, trying too hard to sound epic with cortana filling yiur screen to say some capeshit sounding garbage oike I AM THE HOPE I AM YOU blah blahits fucking lame
>>741269147>wrongsure it is
>>741270004Yes, thank you.
>>741268170This series was always milquetoast and relied heavily on marketing hype and succeeded because Xbox had a shitty library and this was like the only online game plus everybody had it.The Xbox 360 having an early start and the PS3 being unintuitive for developers created an environment where Halo dominated despite being very fucking mediocre. The music was excellent and I have no idea why Mick Gordon, Ola Strandh and Martin O'Donnell aren't / weren't commissioned more work when they proved they could carry mediocre games.Bungie fucking lost it when they let Martin O'Donnell go and it was over politics because he wasn't a lefty, true story.Going back to Halo, the level design is shit in all games with some notable exceptions like Silent Cartographer, Assault on the Control Room, Metropolis, The Relic, Crow's Nest and The Storm.I actually like most MP maps, so it has that going for it.And as vanilla as this is the industry can outdo what got to be the lamest arena type shooter ever made, so it did not even try for Unreal nor Quake.
>Halo 1Were going to blow up the ring(covenant danxe song plays)>Halo 2Giving the covenanr back their bomb (neq mombassa suite or breaking benjamin song plays)>Halo ODSTNeed to find survivors (rain song plays)>Halo ReachObjective: Survive>Halo 3*tearing up and blowing nose into kleenex* but whats gonna happen to Coetana bawwww i need to know!
This moment is the absolute pinnacle of Halo. It happens in Halo 3. Thus, Halo 3 must be the best one.
>>741270159if you meme like this then accept you have no argument and defend a losing position. otherwise shut up
>>741270336>absolute nothing burger of a scene
>>741269572>whoa this is pretty cool, you play as a human who is more vulnerable than a spartanI could do ODST LASO in a few tries.I cannot leave cover in Halo 2 on Legendary without getting fucked in the ass.Spartans are weak shit.I hated Reach on launch and it became one of my favorites.I just had too much fun playing that a few years ago with friends, also I was seeing this girl back during Reach launch so I thought games were beneath me, and I fucking regret missing out because I was with this hipster crowd and I watched so many shitty indie films, god damn.If some fat fuck from /tv/ tells you french noir is the shit, just fuck his jaw open.
Halo 3 is the second most disappointing sequel of all time. Only Mass Effect 2 beats it out
>>741270336I thought this dialogue was cool.I loved the delivery.
>>741270424Halo 2 isnt that much harder than others. I never understood why people said it was so hard and muh jackal snipers because I never jad an issue back in the day. But maybe Id see, I thought, when starting the LASO runs. Nope, jackal sniper only ever killed me like once or twice, once because I was rushing and forgot one on redoing an level after dying.Theyre all deadly on LASO. Some of 2s missions are actually the easiest if you follow the tricks given. But even just straight up fighting moments are fine. Nothing tops Truth and Reconciliation in terms of difficulty.
>>741269384Counterpoint, they are fun as all hell.Sure The Arbiter and High Charity are more eventful but something is wrong with you if you cannot appreciate the brute chooper.You honestly named the best missions in the game.
>>741270424also that comment was more about the hype and framing of it, the story etc.ODST is the easiest LASO game by far
>>741270582The Ark and The Covenant are the best missions in the game.
from 2 to 3 all glitches, easter eggs, and shenanigans were cut out in favor of MLG tryhard seriousness.skulls, while still to be found in levels, now became menu and option-ified.scarabs either became or felt smaller, with definitive ways to kill them and are fought multiple timesz taking all the luster off of them. community made ideas like zombies got made into a playlist.3 was the walmartification of Halo
>>741270740These 2 and Tsavo Highway are the best 3 missions in Halo 3, and all 3 would be sort of mid tier in Halo 1 or 2
>>741270580>Nothing tops Truth and Reconciliation in terms of difficulty.The MCC version is broken on LASO with saving and quitting not working properly, I played that for days and came to the conclusion that it is actually fun.The exploding grunt nukes are delightful.Sadly I had to cheat LASO with file manipulation because MCC would not record my progress, but for it to work I had to do the last mission SLASO Deathless which was awesome.Also I have never told a single soul how to do this because there is more you can do with the files to actually make things super easy but that is gay and cheating LASO felt bad but the issue was never fixed, and Co-Op would disconnect like crazy.I am doing the LE speedrun legit which is honestly much worse than LASO.At least LASO gives you the luxury of time.I want to the Library SLASO because everybody told me it is like a religious experience but I did LASO during the free time I got as consequence of the pandemic.I am doing Halo 2 Laso this summer with a friend who is one run away from LASO Master.LASO Co-op in Halo 3 and Reach are so much fun, I think that will forever be etched into my head.
>>741270354It's just an objectively wrong point. Forge resulted in tons of variety for custom games. But we already established you didn't play the game because you think it doesn't have dual wielding.
>>741270756>scarabs either became or felt smaller, with definitive ways to kill them and are fought multiple timesz taking all the luster off of them.meh, I prefer them feeling like big convenient vehicles and not just being a set piece. But it loses points for not getting you highjack them.
>>741270740>The ArkThe pacing is pretty lousy. The covenant is the all star mission, but the Storm is so fucking good.>and all 3 would be sort of mid tier in Halo 1 or 2I love Quarantine Zone and Metropolis but nah.Gravemind is a fucking trash mission.I can't say I like any Arbiter mission but QZ.Halo CE only has two good levels: Silent Cartographer and Assault on the Control Room.Keyes and T&R are more frustrating than fun.
I had it. I didn't like it. I played it once and was done with it. Played the first Halo twice and didn't like it. 4 is the best by far, mainly for Cortana, but the design in general is much better, because they got the designer from id.
why does cortana never tell you anything cool or interesting if she's a forerunner ai. why especially does she not know anything about the fucking halo installation? this series makes no sense at all, it feels like they were terrified of ever having a five minute cutscene where they have any exposition, even in 3 when people should have already been locked in
>>741271252>she's a forerunner aiWhat?
>>741270835i unashamedly used the save and quit trick. i have no patience for redoing shit. just like how i will save state 2d wra games at the start of levels.i also did use tricks and abuse ai when possible, like at the start of gravemind.
>>741271276isn't that the entire plot of halo reach? shes from a forerunner underground thing in reach
Halo 2 mogs 3 purely for the fact you fight Elites. The Brutes in Halo 3 just aren't that fun to fight. That and some of the character models look like fucking Borderlands characters. Hood and Keyes are the worst offenders. No idea how they managed to make them look worse than Halo 2
>>741270937and yet no examples are provided.people made griffball and that was it>you mixed one thing up so im handwaving everything you saidhow i expect a 3toddler to argue
that one halo 3 level where you start in a base like area then go take out aa guns or whatever it was a good level...oh wait no thats halo reach
>>741271362OP already listed examples you fucking retarded. >This led to classics like Duck Hunt, Fat Kid, Jenga, Trash Compactor, and countless community creations My personal favorites are all the race tracks in the sandbox skybox.
>>741271346No, Cortana was made from the brain scan of Dr. Halsey (explaining why they have the same voice). She's just a normal human AI. The blue glowing shit you're carrying at the end of Reach is just Forerunner data and I guess Cortana is in there too(?). The coordinate data explains how the Pillar of Autumn happened to jump straight to Halo in the first game.
>Gaylo Three
>>741269976>3 is...a forest, a parking garage, halo ring areas, and just general halo like levels i guess.The Ark is the single greatest level in Halo history
>>741271362You didn't just mess one thing up. Saying Halo 3 removed dual wielding is like saying Halo 2 removed vehicles. It makes absolutely no sense to anyone who actually played the game and demonstrates that you have no idea what you're talking about.
Why is Forward Unto Dawn such a cool name for a ship?
>>741269976This guy is right. 3’s missions are pretty boring and the game doesn’t really do anything fun until floodgate, it’s just jerking you around until the flood shows up and you need to leave earth. Jungle, underground base, bombed out highway, bombed out buildings, and then that but flood showed up. 1/2 should have been one mission and 3/4 should have been a mission, then add 3 more missions on the back half with you actually having Cortana before you blow it all up. Interrupting Cortana is fine the first time, but annoying after that, then gravemind joins in later. I like 3, but it’s easily the weakest for campaign variety and story of the OG trilogy. Multiplayer was almost perfect, the items were wonky, they just needed some tuning and I’d say it was perfect. Just a final thing, I always forget the highway mission even exist because it’s so bland, I can remember all of CE’s and 2’s missions(even the ones that end, and then start up right after in the same spot), but the highway in 3 is so bland and boring I forget it exist until someone points it out, even then I don’t really recall how it plays out.
>>741271474idk dude, I mean I believe you, but one of the characters in one of the games literally blurts something out like>cortana is humanity's #1 weapon for survivalwhich seems weird if it's just a broad turned digitalalso 343 scanning you/cortana or something and talking about>ohh so this is our history, you call it human history huh?like she was forerunner or something because clearly you're supposed to be forerunner
>>741271586its really nothing special. be honest, you just soifaced at the TANK BEATS EVERYTHING XDDDD line
>>741268170peak halo is still garbage. People were so excited for a new branded console that major competitors quit and they are yet to make a decent game. Destroyed the industry by rewriting general perception of it was
>>741268503>But even Reach and ODST are better.Reach has a better campaignOdst sucksHalo 3 as a whole package is better than both
>>741271348I prefer brutes solely because their armor/shields doesn’t regenerate. Actually made legendary fun because you weren’t forced to use the plasma pistol every fight
>>741271316The game is not balanced toward LASO like Doom is for Ultra Nightmare and LASO is pure chaos. A genuine fucking brain fart on behalf of 343i to normalize this.And I remind you that even with S&Q, Bungie was still impressed enough to award some cool in game bonus or grant recognition to anyone who beat the games.Also S&Q is like how Iron works in Co-Op, so you indeed beat the game.You are intended to use S&Q for completion, unless you want to go pro or do some streaming challenge. Hell the first guy to ever beat Halo 2 SLASO deathless got 20k from Cr1tikal.
>>741271587>2 plud 2 is 4>you mispelled plus therefore your claim that 2 plus 2 is 4 is now invalidyou people continue to agr into adulthood and never level up your critical thinking skills. explains a lot about society honestly.if you said halo 2 was the first to have a wieldable hammer or something id just point out its erong then focus on your main thesis, not take victory laps and crown myself by clutching pearls over a small mistake. thats what small dicked small brained losers do
>>741268559Halo 2 would win if it were actually finished
>>741268170>The Battle Rifle became one of the most beloved weapons in FPS history.fuck off, it disincentivized using 90% of the other weapons in the game since you almost always started with it and it was superior to almost everything else, it made standard multi incredibly samey
>>741271669NTA but why are you doing best NPC dirty like that?But I agree the Ark sucks.But I am only saying that because I did the whole thing on foot for the achievement like twice, first was nulled because I used a turret, so I associate that level with lots of walking and the end is kinda shit.
>>741271669>buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords not an argument
>>741268170I had more fun with the prior 2 games. I am the debate king, another easy W
>>741271809here come the typical npcs and bots with rhe same dumbass shit once againevery game has cut contenthalo 1 ends on no less of a "cliffhanger" than 2 does.2 has the longest campaign, as well as the biggest and most maps in both sp and mpunfinished skyscraper vs fully complete 3 story office
>>741271619Well I guess Forerunners are supposed to be ancient humans so technically all AI's are Forerunner AI's. I don't know if 343 retconned it later, but that's what the monitor implies at the end of Halo 3.>cortana is humanity's #1 weapon for survivalIf that was in Reach, it's just referring to the data she's carrying from the Forerunner artifact.
>>741271669I did like that line t b h
>>741271850>ark is best levelnot an argument
They ruined the prophet of truth with a horrible voice actor and hes just insane now instead of conniving
>>741271886>I don't know if 343 retconned it laterBoy did they.
>>741271787>if you said halo 2 was the first to have a wieldable hammer or something id just point out its erong then focus on your main thesisYeah except that's not even close to what you did. I could kind of see someone making that mistake if they haven't played 2 is ages. But the mistake you made is more akin to my example of saying that Halo 2 removed vehicles. You would have to have either just be talking out of your ass or have dementia to make that mistake.
>>741271820Maybe I am shit at the game but on Legendary there is not reason to use anything else because you cannot exist in the same area as an Elite for more than 3 seconds.Halo 2 Heroic is the last time Dual Wielding is powerful and feels great.Duel Wielding in Halo 3 feels weak and lame for some reason.
>>741271906dont need to argue because it is correct
>>741271880Halo CE ends hinting at a sequel but it wraps up the story just fine.
>>741271951gonna be honest wirh you im not even reading all that. you had a chance to engage in adult conversation and chose childishness instead. sorry you typed all that out to be ignored but maybe youll learn to debate like a grown up next time.
>>741271886>but that's what the monitor implies at the end of Halo 3.Before 343i, the idea is that the Forerunners chose humanity as their successors for having the greatest potential among all species to achieve what they had accomplished.343i lore is so overcomplicated, contradictory and retarded I won't attempt to kill your braincells explaining it but just so you know Guilty Spark somehow returned and he is a Giga Chad now and he FUCKED and human woman.I am not making this up, Guilty spark (Born Stellar?) is in the cover of one of the Halo books from 6 - 4 years ago.
>>741272012>memesright, youre a child
>>741272095Sorry, sorry.Meant to say he fucked and loved a human woman with his cyborg penis.
>>741272095>Before 343i, the idea is that the Forerunners chose humanity as their successors for having the greatest potential among all species to achieve what they had accomplished.What's his name and his gay terminals can throw himself in front of a train. Guilty Spark directly says humans are forerunners in Halo 3.
>>741272092You're not engaging with the people making real arguments anyway, you're only responding to me because I'm hurting your retard feelings.
>>741272025needing a story to wrap up is overrated, even if 2 didnt. wrong on both counts
the only good thing 343i ever did was make me wonder if I could fit halo 4 cortana's whole tit in my mouth
>>741272138spoken like a true redditor
Halo 3 and its fans are part of the reason gaming became shit. Theres a reason people pinpoint the year 2007 and Halo 3 is part of it
>>741268170You don't have to convince me, you're correct.
>>741268170Halo 3 is the greatest game of all time. Anyone who disagrees is actually one guy named Joe making multiple posts (and even Joe likes Halo 3, he just won't admit it).
>>741272381LARPer. The reason people point to 2007 is CoD4, not Halo 3.
>>741272417Fuck Joe, he probably likes the 343i games
>>741272381Shut up, Joe. We all know you loved playing fat kid on fat kid 4 until the sun came up.
>>741272174Medicant Bias?All Ais in Halo are unreliable narrators.Name one that did not go rogue or had its memories altered.GS states humans are reclaimers, as well as Penitent tangent, the title was granted by the forerunners to be next in line, eventually evolution would make humans stand in the place of the forerunners.Spartans were engineered to be super human, thus making them even closer to the Forerunners.The whole human covenant war is a conflict created because the space goat jews are hiding the fact that they are not the chosen people and the ark wasn't actually promised to them 10,000 years ago.The only good book from the 343i era, broken circle, is a novel than dwells on this with several covenant scholars noticing that humans are more adept in using forerunner technology and that it is suspicious the prophets would want them exterminated without offering them the chance to serve them like every other species before them.Making the forerunners future humans was terrible.Making humanity as ancient as the forerunners was worse.Making them rivals to the forerunners was incredibly stupid and it only gets worse.From a writing pov, the forerunners are a device and work better as an unexplained mystery, explaining and showing them is like the midichlorians in star wars. It was dumb to explain them, and got even dumber when it was over explained.
The campaign sucks and Bungie didn't even try to make anything but the final mission good.
>>7412723812004 was the real year gaming died. >PC classics like Deus Ex, Thief, and Doom get dumbed down, consolized sequels >WoW kills Star Wars Galaxies dooming MMOs for all time >Halo 2 popularizes matchmaking
>>741272417Joe was that one kid, huh.>>741272381PC fats will never admit their God Gaben created the devil and shaped it as loot crates in Tf2, MOBAS and Competitive E-sports.
>>741272578>Doom get dumbed downThat is untrue, it became survival horror and people hated Id the one time they did something fresh.Also console games at the time were pretty good.PC had like a ton of niche games back then too.>Halo 2 popularizes matchmakingThat and paid online were shit.
>>741272779>paid onlinereal ones used xbconnect to spoof a LAN connection through your network. It was basically the first console server browser for custom games and it was completely free
>>741268170Halo 3 was a massive cultural juggernaut, but there were things lost along the way. Weapons lost melee utility from 1 and replaced with a cheap, easy, magnetic melee lunge, dual wielding got nerfed in 2's multiplayer onward with a damage and accuracy malus making it not super useful half the time. BR dominance was at its peak in 2, less so in 3, but still a pseudo power weapon. 1 wasn't perfect, not even close, but I still overall liked it the most gameplay wise. Everything else 3 has beats it in spades. It's hard to compete with forge and theater combined with 3's sandbox.I even liked some of the half-baked mechanics that were dropped from 1 like momentum based melee damage, guns had varying melee ranges, recovery animation times, and damage which added to their utility. The plasma rifle slowed and had minor headshot damage. Plasma pistol in 1 was also cracked and the best it ever was in the series. Elite animations in 1 were at their best, and Covenant squad mechanics felt the tightest even though they're functionally the same across all 3 games. Every weapon in 1 had a purpose, and none of them stepped on each others' toes.
>>741272514>the forerunners are no longer mysterious>the flood exists because some ancient alien precursor space dust mutated>the banished are a faction that exists and was always super powerful the prophets were even afraid of them wow!!!>humanity goes from being nearly exterminated in halo 3 to somehow having wunderwaffen ships and being a major galactic power in the span of a few yearsthere's so much shit to bitch about, but really I just want a game where you kill UNSC zogbots and ONI glowniggs before they can exterminate a rebelling colony
>>741274341The 343-verse really is dogshit. Also, don't forget Mastur chef isn't just a cool last surviving spartan anymore, but instead the chosen one who has forerunner DNA or some shit.
>>741274341343 era stuff is dogshit man, the sad thing is you could have build off halo 3 in a reasonable mannerHave a spin off or go around having some super secret black ops shit while humanity is rebuilding
>>741268559>dual wield needlersI fucking despised that the online latency meant that needle explosions would explode near enemies and not directly on them, thereby surviving the explosions.
>>741271348>That and some of the character models look like fucking Borderlands characters.Just about all the humans, really. All the good art design went literally everywhere else.
>>741268170WRONG.Halo peaked with local co-op and LAN play. The first game was the only good one. Only a zoomer would disagree.
>>741268170>waking up in the woodsNo.
>>741272381>Theres a reason people pinpoint the year 2007I pinpoint it 10 years later, after Far Cry 5 in 2017/2018 or whenever. The game itself was great, but New Dawn was a solid example of the downhill in gaming.
>>741268170Halo 3 was my favorite game for a long time, but playing Halo 2 (anniversary) on legendary has changed my mind.
>>741268170Only complaint is half the campaign genuinely sucks ass. At least HALF the mission's have backtracking through huge entire swaths of the levels (lazy as fuck), and the story doesn't even start until you leave for the ark a full 1/3rd to 1/2th of the way through. Nothing is accomplished plot wise until Truth leaves and and the Flood shows up for second, you were basically just running around doing filler sidequests the first several hours of the game.
Halo 3 was phenomenal but there was something special about Halo 2 multiplayer that felt like you were part of something new we've never seen before, it really made you feel alive in the moment and you knew other people felt it at the time, I don't know how to explain it.
