JRPG, Japan>:IJRPG, LA FRANCE >:OOOOOOOOOOO
What creative freedom without the risk of infringement does to a mutha fucka.
Does any frog in here explain the song lyrics? Is it just gibberish with character's names thrown in or is there some actual meaning?
Oui.
name 5 better japanese rpgshard mode last 10 years
>>741269595Not a frog, but I have seen a few lines from the songs and they practically explain the state of the Desendre family and things they have done. A few songs will actually give slight spoilers ahead of time, but when you first hear the songs there's not enough context for it to spoil anything. Basically another facet of appreciation you have for the game on the second playthrough.
>>741268595Dude, if it's not an animated show with enough sexuality to awaken an entire generation of teenagers, people don't give a damn about French media outside of France. Expedition 33 not only succeeded IN SPITE of being French, but I daresay it's one of the few existential/philosophical games that isn't actually pretentious; it's just that deep.
It was fun and cool
I did not care for E33.
>>741268595It's really crazy that you can make something super derivative like this with assets that look like they're from the UE5 store and trick people into thinking it's a 10/10 because it has a parry mechanic which only lessens the RPG mechanics AND is shit because of horrible animations AND IT HAS LE FREAKING REALISTIC GARPHICS AND IT'S DARK WOOOOAAAHHLiterally if this game was exactly the same but in an anime style, nobody would give a fuck.
>>741268595I thought square enix said turn based games were outdated and unpopular so what gives?
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>>741268735>creative freedom>make the most generic shit possible
>>741270129>I daresay it's one of the few existential/philosophical games that isn't actually pretentious; it's just that deep.98 IQ retards actually believe this
>>741271352Square Enix releases like 5 turn based games a year
>>741271896At least they had the law to able to too. lol lmao even.
>>741270129Dunning Kruger: The Fanbase
>>741271262>Literally if this game was exactly the same but in an anime style, nobody would give a fuck.Insanely dishonest mentally ill tendie postI added it to my wishlist after I saw that it has M&L style battle system
>>741271616/trv/ here, France is actually amazing to travel through and visit.>place, FranceReally does add a plus 2 to any score it would otherwise get. 6/10 place in America? It's at least an 8 out of 10 in France. And that's at a minimum.Any contrary opinion that gets expressed in response to this post is just wrong.>bawww paris le sucks though!No it doesn't, Paris is awesome.>no the countryside is better!The countryside is also excellent>no I mean the other citiesAlso excellent and with tons of variety.>no those all suck only Paris mattersNot true but Paris is a huge chunk of France's greatness, sure.France is amazing.
>>741271262Do you think just having """realistic""" graphics is enough? Then why didn't The Thaumaturge take off?
>>741272001You're a minority. People don't play JRPGs for the combat systems.>>741272169>Do you think just having """realistic""" graphics is enough?No, that's why I pointed out other things too but it's definitely the biggest factor. People who think anime is cringe played this game because they believed it would let them play jrpgs without playing jrpgs
>>741268595I have no idea why the goycattle love this ugly slop so much
>>741272142This. Paris is the greatest place on earth
>>741272317>People who think anime is cringeAnime is extremely cringe if you're not a zoomer nigger though.
Just another reminder that all the antiweebs with their thinf japan memes are just projecting their own borderline racist selectivity.hate jrpgs until its brown, western and cinematic. now its suddenly goty.jrpgs, japanese game, anime, etc fans still are open minded to try and enjoy various things even the westoid brown and gray cinematic slop.westoids however have jrp/japan derangement syndrome. they seethe with anger that those things even exist
>>741269791Like a dragon Infinite wealth Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Persona 3 reloadMetaphor RefantazioDragon Quest 7 reimagined Tales of AriseAny of the Kiseki games released in the last 10 years
>>741272142don't listen to this faggot about Paris, ALWAYS avoid big cities when it comes to yurop, or anywhere I'd say
>>741272891Paris IS great, and it's cleaned up a lot in the last decade. Perfectly great for tourism, most shopkeeps even speak enough English to get you through your purchase.But if you don't want that, France has a frankly absurd number of smaller, incredibly nice other cities/towns/villages to visit. Off the top of my head I recommend Bayeaux, Bordeaux, Lyon, Montpelier, Perpignan, Avignon, Rouen, and Lille. And I'm leaving out a bunch of other great cities and villages.There's a reason when Lightning kills god and goes to heaven, it's France.
>>741272847>Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth
>>741272847>Any of the Kiseki games released in the last 10 yearsAs someone who has played every single Kiseki game up to this point >Zero>Azure>CS1-4>Reverie>Daybreak 2 (unironically one of the worst JRPGs ive ever played it was that fucking bad)were all worse than E33. I wont bother arguing the other shit thats not my wheelhouse, but outside of Daybreak 1 and Horizon, which a lot of other people have their own hang-ups with, which is fair, the series has never come close to touching Trails in the Sky 3rd in terms of greatness outside of Chapter 2 in Azure, a shame about the rest of the game
>>741268595E33 is just a good game but I also love JRPGs in general. Playing P5R right now.
>>741271262>>741272317This is a pathetic strawman from a retard who simply can't cope with the idea that people like a game he doesn't like and so needs to invent a fake reason why them liking it is actually a bad thing.
Based turn based lovers
>>741272847Tales of Arise is one of the worst fucking games I've ever played.
>>741272142France is my favorite Middle Eastern country, I agree.
>>741272847remakes and atlasslop is just sad
>>741272437What happened to France? It's just the same as I remember.
>>741272317>People who think anime is cringe played this game because they believed it would let them play jrpgs without playing jrpgsJust like the Thaumaturge? It also has a JRPG gameplay system.
>>741272847holy japslop
>>741272847This has to be bait, right?
>>741268595forced meme. go back.
>>741268595The average casual would much rather play UE5 "realistic" trash than a game with anime estheticsIf E33 looked like pic related people would call it a 6/10 at best
>>741275404Ni No Kuni 2 was dogshit, definitely a downgrade from Ni No Kuni 1.
>>741268595Why yes, if you make a JRPG and take out all the shitty JRPG tropes that people were complaining about for decades you end up with a successful game.
>>741275576But Anon, people LOVE shitty japanese humor and character templates they have seen a gorillion times in anime!
>>741275404Anime doesn't have to mean oversaturated cartoonish shounenshit.
>>741268595>JRPG
>>741275576>all the shitty JRPG tropesWhat do you mean?Surprise random encounters?Being the fated hero of prophecy?Final boss being God?Most of these have stopped being used years ago>>741275805SMT3 nocturne re-released and casuals didn't give it a chance eitherNo matter the artstyle, if it's not aiming to look as close to IRL as possible, then people don't value it as much
>>741272847You can just list any random JRPG and it would still be better than E41
/v/ niggers really will invent 2 billion different mental gymnastics excuses before they simply admit that Expedition 33 was popular because it's a good game and that is literally the only reason. All your excuses are horse shit and you know they're horse shit because E33 only started gaining traction after release which means nothing about the game's aesthetics are what sold people on the game. It was pure word of mouth spread about the game and it's quality.
>>741272847lol
>>741276183What quality? Good music and an emotionally manipulative story that lacks substance?People like movies and parry systems, doesn't mean it's a good game
>>741277090The fact that it spread entirely through word of mouth and not marketing is objective proof that you are wrong.
>>741276183Yeah, they even got a movie deal immediately! Eat that /v/!
>>741277158You cope and yet you cannot refute my argument. Stay seething tranny freak.
>They made a jrpg but good>This is a bad thing because people don't appreciate bad jrpgs (most of them) and somehow also makes you racist??????
>>741277090What's wrong with emotionally manipulative stories?How does it lack substance? People are still arguing about the ending to this day, with drastically different interpretations.
>>741268595France is cool
>>741277090>and an emotionally manipulative story that lacks substance?What a buzzword filled non argument.
I'm having a blast!
>>741277226>What's wrong with emotionally manipulative stories?It's not inherently wrong, but when you rely mostly on that to carry your story then you end up with E33.>How does it lack substance?Worldbuilding, characters, conflict, etc. All are second if not third rateA well written story would have you care for all these things, in E33 "muh feelings" eclipses allHell, even the ending is a clear black & white case yet people argue about it
>>741268595I love E33
>>741277226>What's wrong with emotionally manipulative stories?It's insincere
>>741277641>characters are second rateFucking what? Gustave, Verso, Renoir and Alicia are all top tier.>A well written story would have you care for all these things, in E33 "muh feelings" eclipses allThat's just what Guillaume thinks makes for a good story.>Hell, even the ending is a clear black & white case yet people argue about itAgreed, Versotards are just embarrassing, but that's beside the point.
>>741277195Why do you give credence to the incoherent ramblings of literal trannies?
All jrpgs I was baited into playing had boring AND repetative gameplay, shitty story, and endless slop writing. Expedition 33 is a tight game in all aspects, I never felt like I was fighting enemies just because developers need to fill the space(well maybe 1 time near the end), the combat is engaging, game doesnt treat me like I have all the time in the world and Im happy to spend it reading(or hearing) endless slop. It still cheats a bit with storytelling by dumping most of the story at the act 2 ending cutscene, and then act 3 is one mission story wise and you watch the ending, I guess videogame storytelling is an issue yet to be solved
>>741277641>Hell, even the ending is a clear black & white case yet people argue about itI always love when people hating a game you like are complete fucking morons vindicating your liking of it.
>>741278218Cool story bro.
>>741278218Play Black Souls 2 (lvl 1 run)
>>741278149Nobody does. They're being rightfully made fun of for being retarded.
>>741278218>the combat is engaging,Read: I like parrying>game doesnt treat me like I have all the time in the world and Im happy to spend it reading(or hearing) endless slopThat's subjective, people like what you call endless slop the same way a Skyrim player like doing a whole bunch of exploring and side stuff before doing the main questI guess E33 being called a JRPG for people won't don't like JRPGs is correct
>>741268595>normalcattle "thoughts"lol
>>741278527>I guess E33 being called a JRPG for people won't don't like JRPGs is correctIt depends on what you call 'core JRPG'. Is it milquetoast shit like Chrono Nigger and Dragon Quest? Or mechanically engaged games like SaGa, SMT and Bravely Default? Because I only like latter and despise the former.t. E33 fan
>>741277915Some books have great stories. Tends to be the American ones though.The Da Vinci Code and Harry Potter were beautiful pop fiction stories.I hear The Brothers Karamazov mentioned a lot. It had some great moments too, though I found the ending kind of unsatisfying and I think people exaggerate how good it is because of the seriousness of its subject matter and its heavy-handed philosophical themes.To me, a book is well-written if the story engages you and makes you care about the characters, the story events are driven by characters who have conflicting motives and often have to make difficult choices, and the dialogue deepens your understanding of the characters.Another good example of good writing in a novel is Twilight. I'd recommend it if you've never read it.
You know how even mundane footage suddenly becomes emotional if you put it in grayscale with some piano playing?That's E33 in a nutshell.
>>741278819If you are alluding to Dostoevsky’s worst novels, then, indeed, I dislike intensely The Brothers Karamazov and the ghastly Crime and Punishment rigamarole. No, I do not object to soul-searching and self-revelation, but in those books the soul, and the sins, and the sentimentality, and the journalese, hardly warrant the tedious and muddled search. Dostoyevsky’s lack of taste, his monotonous dealings with persons suffering with pre-Freudian complexes, the way he has of wallowing in the tragic misadventures of human dignity – all this is difficult to admire. I do not like this trick his characters have of ”sinning their way to Jesus” or, as a Russian author, Ivan Bunin, put it more bluntly, ”spilling Jesus all over the place." Crime and Punishment’s plot did not seem as incredibly banal in 1866 when the book was written as it does now when noble prostitutes are apt to be received a little cynically by experienced readers. Dostoyevsky never really got over the influence which the European mystery novel and the sentimental novel made upon him. The sentimental influence implied that kind of conflict he liked—placing virtuous people in pathetic situations and then extracting from these situations the last ounce of pathos. Non-Russian readers do not realize two things: that not all Russians love Dostoevsky as much as Americans do, and that most of those Russians who do, venerate him as a mystic and not as an artist. He was a prophet, a claptrap journalist and a slapdash comedian. I admit that some of his scenes, some of his tremendous farcical rows are extraordinarily amusing. But his sensitive murderers and soulful prostitutes are not to be endured for one moment—by this reader anyway. Dostoyevsky seems to have been chosen by the destiny of Russian letters to become Russia’s greatest playwright, but he took the wrong turning and wrote novels.
>>741278819>Tends to be the American ones though.lmao
>Another good example of good writing in a novel is Twilight
>>741268595so this is the new strategy?your last thread of pic rel got deleted so you're switching things up?i see you
>>741278946Hi Nabokov
the anticipation is palpable...
>>741268595CLASSIC JRPG>:OOOOOOOOOOONU JRPG>:ICLASSIC JRPG (français)>:OOOOOOOOOOOMaybe of NuFF games copied old FF games like E33 did, they would be popular too
>>741279046Based
>>741268595Yes.
>>741268595I love France
>>741277195>It was tendies seething over E33 all along
>>741279116I liked Jack's game.
this as to be most shitposted game on /v/ since tortanic
>>7412791852026... I am forgotten...
>>741279231e33 shitposting has been non stop for an entire year
>>741271095The fact that so many people are yelling that you should like it is precisely the reason to not do it.
>>741279185amazing how it makes retards seethe stillit was similar with stellar blade desu
>>741279231if bazz was in e33 retards wouldn't be seething about the game every day
>>741278764>Turn based combat>Stats inspired by tabletop roleplaying games>Progress is done through your knowledge and your characters getting better stats, spells and items (rather than your skill as a player like in an action game)Those are the fundamentals of a JRPGEven something as barebones as DQ1 on NES still holds up to this day as long as you enjoy those fundamentals
>>741279175It's always Xenotrannies, they've got to be the jarpig fandom with the biggest victim complex
>>741279185>make a successful, good game>endless shitposting from faggot contrariansIt's always the same thingElden ring, BG3, now E33
>>741279427Similarly to E33 SB is carried by its graphics and music but unlike E33 you don't have a cult-like playerbase fueled by the shit taste of journalists claiming it's the best game in its genre while conveniently ignoring all its flawsAnons enamored by Eve's ass are not even 1/100th as obnoxious as the average E33 fanboy
>>741268735>creative freedom>jrpg but with quick time events
>>741268595It's the best JRPG of all time
>>741272847No but Yakuza 7 was.lolP3 is 20 years oldlmaoDQ 7 is 25 years oldEven as a talesfag noLast one is fair
>>741279689Those games share things in common>Shilled endlessly by gaming media>Key issues compared to similar games>Still praised as the second coming of ChristThey're good games, sure, but even cake starts tasting vile when it's repeatedly shoved down your throat by people who keep telling you it's better than your favorite dessert
>>741268595I like both. E33 is my favorite in a long time, though.
>>741279806Anon, Eve is not your wife. Stop spamming.
>>741279831Low iq postMost likely amerinigger or jeet
>>741279806if you think e33 fans are making these threads you are retarded
was at the concert 3 days ago, bretty based desu
>people are STILL seething about E33Damn
>>741279689I will give you BG3 and E33 but Elden Ring is pretty mid
>>741268595AI slop.
>>741272142>Claims to be from /trv/>Says Paris is niceYou obbiously never went to Paris.Actual frog here, Paris is a shithole AND a tourist trap. The countryside is a hundred times better, filled with neat people, and brimming with history and local tales/legends. And most importantly, you can count the ammount of niggers you see in a month on your fingers, unlike Paris or Marseille, which are the two cities to avoid like the plague.
Funny how both sides are the debate are:>This game is good but flawed and overrated, other games in the same genre are better.and>This is GOTY and the best JRPG ever. The music and story are masterpieces.Yet it's the latter who are quick to be on the defensive and call the former retards.
>>741268595AI gem.
>>741271262Yes the game is only popular because it has a parry mechanic and because it's dark
>>741272142Paris is not nice, it smells like piss and and it's dirty polluted and busy as fuck, i was there for a exchange program, fuck Paris
>>741280581it's the daily ritual>>741279003>>741279046
>>741277195This is not true at all, i played tons of jrpgs and expedition 33 is the best in it's genre, right after ff10
>>741281073That's not who we call retards. The retards are like>the game is 5/10 and the music is mid
>>741281513>source: I made it up
>>741281624Ayy lmaoo
>>741268595fag33 is a shit game
>>741281513Lyon is nice though
>>741268595based33 is a great game
>>741281624E33 is all about how a particular emotion can ruin lives, yet you can't fathom how an anon could be so resentful towards E33's VGA performance and overwhelming shilling that he'd make it a ritual to mock the game and its fans
>>741282265You're right, I can't fathom being so retarded as to obsessively post the same thread every day.
>>741268595Ubisoft fucked up on this one, they could have fit at least 50 towers
>>741269595it's gibberish to avoid spoiling the story but becomes less and less gibberish as you progress in the game
>>741269595Stop loving meI will always love youDrop the brushleave this canvasRenoir (Aline)I will always paintstop paintingDrop the brush,leave this canvasAline (Renoir)Colors emblazenedFiery red, life takenA canvas I cannot seeI close my eyes, the dark remainsAll black, her sorrowed eyesThrough the gold, her laughter staysIn every hue, a shard of himTo love him still, though he's long gone
>>741268595I just see two angry faces, but one is more indignant and the other is screaming mad.
