Why is Mass Effect discussion so shitty nowadays compared to the old BioWare forums and 2011 /v/?
Everything is shitty now regardless of topic or debate.
There's nothing left to discuss. We know the ending sucks, we know the indoctrination theory is the only way to make it not suck, we know the games devolved into casual mess after 1, we know talifags are the most obnoxious retards on the internet.
>>741272390Mass Effect 3 happened
>>741272540>>741272427first posts, best posts. It's been talked to death, nothing new to discuss and this place is fucking awful. I unironically miss the Mass Effect/Dragon Age generals on /vg/ as they were comfy.
>>741272390It's simple>Bioware's current state>4chan schizos/contrarians
>>741272390because weirdass waifufaggots
>>741272390mobile phones
>>741272390Being worse than BSN really is saying something. It's nothing but the sloppy second gay kink fetishists who don't even care about the story (or worse, they forgive every flaw it ever had) who only latched on to the IP for its representation, and not the great sci-fi world it was.
>>741272390>compared to the old BioWare forums and 2011 /v/3 wasn't out yet.
>>741272593Those threads were pure fanfic and gay degeneracyThat being said,>MATING TUBES>KROGAN COCK
What kind of creature do you imagine obsesses over mass effect and needs to discuss it every single day for a decade and a half or they burst a brain aneurysm
>>741273096Nintendo fans do this
>>741272947It leaked in 2011
>>741272390Most people finally opened their eyes and saw what normal people always knew, Bioware games suck and have always sucked.
>>741272390>okay, I'll give a responseUnless you are doing a Mass Effect cropped porn thread don't expect much traction. The last game came out in 2017 and we haven't had anything to really talk about since then.I could add for discussion is that Mass Effect 3 was pure platinum up until the ending 3 choices that the devs pinky promised they wouldn't have. They made it seem like we would need an entire other disc for the "endings" part of the game. I remember being so disappointed after I had done literally everything else that I didn't even want to do the The Citadel DLC and have comfy time with the squad. I just felt disappointed.I did end up playing and beating Andromeda, but it was just a fun little trip that went nowhere thanks to Bioware starting their woke grift of purposefully uglifying characters. I am not kidding they said they didn't like how perfect everyone looking in the other ME games so they coded their modeling software to add imperfections into the models to "make things more grounded and realistic." I stopped buying their games after that.
>>741272390>compared to the old BioWare forumsYou sound like a tourist, we made fun of those fuckwits and their overmoderated shithole on 2011 /v/.They were the early adopters of safe spaces and other faggotry that create echochambers of cringe. Any honest critique of the games was shut down.>DINGDONG BANNU
>>741273701Only thing I toured was your mom's pussy last night.
Report to the ship as soon as possible, we'll bang ok?
Modding is fucking goated now. Live-playback when you're animating faces
Hot Take: People were way too harsh on Mass Effect 3. Yeah, the ending was absolute dogshit. And year, Kai Leng was a total joke of a villain. But the whole meme about the story and our choices not mattering? That was total bullshit. I'd argue that Mass Effect 3 is one of the games where your choices matter the most.>If Wrex is died in 1, then you are straight up locked out of the optimal peace option for the Krogan race>If Wrex is alive and you betray him, then he exposes your treachery, forcing you to kill him, but not before he pulls the Krogans from the war>If Legion or Tali died or you reprogrammed the heretics in 2, then you can't broker peace with the Geth and Quarians.>If the Quarians die, then Tali kills herself>If you broker peace between the Quarians and Geth, then Legion dies>If Thane lives, then he will save the councilor. If Thane is dead, then the Salarian captain from 1 will save the Salarian councilor. If both are dead, then the Salarian Councilor straight up dies>If you fail a speech check or you fail to gain their loyalty, then Kaidan / Ashley straight up betray you and you have to kill themAnd this was all at launch. Once you factor in the expanded endings that were added later then you had all kind of ending slides to elaborate on your choices>The Krogan homeworld could get nuked iirc>The Krogan homeworld could get taken over by the Rachni>Control ending Shepard became god emperor of the universe>Synthesis ending Shepard created some a universe where synthetics and organic people were the same race>Destroy ending shepard reset the universe, destroyed all synthetics, and destroyed the mass relays, shutting down intergalatic travel around the universe And this is all of the top of my head. Regardless of how you feel about Mass Effect 3, you can't deny that the amount of choices and the consequences you could suffer for it were fucking massive.
>>741272390/v/ is shitty nowadays compared to 2011
>>741272390ME is a solved franchise.Any discussion has already happened. All opinions have been voiced
>>741274078>Hot Take: People were way too harsh on Mass Effect 3Hot take indeed. I don't know why you feel the need to share it.
>>741274480Kek true. The only argument is purely personal preference between 1 and 2 or people really into ME3's coop mode.
>>741274078>Lots of commonly conceded pointsLet me put it this way.There were only 5 choices associated with the Golden Path from the first 2 games that hyped players up for real, ahead of buying ME3. And it's not hard to understand why it felt like 3 abandoned "choices mattering" when you consider what those are>The Rachni Queen>Kaidan or Ashley>Sacrifice or Spare the Council>Who is the Human Councilor?>Keep or Destroy Collector BaseThese are the 5 unavoidable decisions that happen simply as part of playing through the central, crit-path narrative in Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2. These were being teased, as you were playing through those games very starkly as "THIS WILL MATTER IN THE FUTURE". The potential was enormous. Ash/Kaidan, maybe not so much, and that was a good isolated choice in ME1, but let's take a look at what 3 actually did with these.>Rachni QueenThe queen reappears and is again sealed and asking you to spare it or kill it. If it already died there is now a Reaper copy-and-paste version of it, that is more sinister. So it's the same fucking scenario in both versions, and just a reference to a choice we already made in the first game. The Breeder ruining part of the Crucible Project and down-bumping your War Assets a bit is not a worthwhile story development either. Completely wasted potential that doesn't affect ME3's story in the slightest. Most importantly, it revealed nothing.>Ash or KaidanWell done, except Ashley has nothing to say once she comes back on the ship. But it's fine.>Sacrifice or Save CouncilIn 2 they emphasized multiple times that there is now a "human-controlled council" and Zakera Ward was written with flavor-text everywhere reflecting that aliens now are more suspicious of humans than ever, thanks to our little stunt. But in 3 there's a carbon-copy of the old council, and although their writing is a bit more reasonable than old-council they both slot into the same scenes and ESSENTIALLY say the exact same dialog.
>>741274660>Who is the CouncilorSo I'm not going to criticize 3 for making Anderson stay back on Earth for Shepard to have something to come back to, even if I think the "EARTH" plot is asinine. For simple character-dramatic purposes this works, but ripping Anderson out of his Councilor position with no warning to the player, and not even anyone really addressing that it's even happened, you get to Udina on the Citadel and feel like your save was loaded incorrectly. It's a huge slap in the face for the probably 90% of players who obviously picked Anderson, and not the sleazebag career-politician. (Also Udina's plot in 3 is a complete character assassination, even for him)>The Collector BaseYea yea, it determines whether you have Control or Destroy in the ending IF YOU HAVE NO WAR ASSETS FOR THE OTHER ENDINGS. And there's a slight variation in Catalyst bringing up Control before Destroy, in case you can't use Synthesis, but it doesn't fucking matter. Illusive Man mentions which choice you made, and Shepard mentions how he felt based on the dialogue you picked in 2. The other characters will occasionally mention that yeah, you picked one or the other... but the whole point of giving the base to TIM in 2 was that there would be some type of development from it, and given his entire "Indoctrination" plot in 3, there actually could have been something.What's worst of all is getting to the Cerberus base at the end and see they've recovered THE SAME amount of Human Reaper remains REGARDLESS of which end-choice we made in ME2.They took the only options that they HAD to incorporate into ME3's plot, and did nothing with them.
I dunno why Bioware has taken so long to make a new, high quality Mass Effect game. They could do a First Contact War game where you play as a low ranking marine in the aftermath of the First Contact War. You would go around helping humanity colonize planets while fighting alien terrorists, exotic and hostile aliens, and warring human factions. They could do post destroy ending where the galaxy is slowly rebuilding after the Reaper War, in a world where all of the infrastructure has been destroyed, entire races have been decimated or even wiped out, and faster than light travel is now impossible due to the destruction of the relays. You could legit build a fallout 1/2/new vegas tier setting out of thatThey could do an ending where you're just a no name merc in the terminus system who makes a name for themselves, builds up their crew, and then rises to power while eliminating all of their enemies.There's so many fucking options to choose from.
>>741272427This. It’s hard to believe but real life discussion is better than internet bullshit and has been for a while.
>remember edi before remaster
>>741274078it's funny when the precedence was set in mass effect 2 where its solution to the big choices in the first game was to just remove their involvement in the story as much as possible with the virmire survivor and the citadel council choices.
>>741274829>I dunno why Bioware has taken so long to make a new, high quality Mass Effect game.basically, overall state of game dev and state of Bioware.>They could do a First Contact War game where you play as a low ranking marine in the aftermath of the First Contact War. You would go around helping humanity colonize planets while fighting alien terrorists, exotic and hostile aliens, and warring human factions.They won't do this because it won't sell.>They could do post destroy ending where the galaxy is slowly rebuilding after the Reaper War, in a world where all of the infrastructure has been destroyed, entire races have been decimated or even wiped out, and faster than light travel is now impossible due to the destruction of the relays. You could legit build a fallout 1/2/new vegas tier setting out of thatThey can't intrude on the endings, or canonize one.>They could do an ending where you're just a no name merc in the terminus system who makes a name for themselves, builds up their crew, and then rises to power while eliminating all of their enemies.Side game, not mainline mass effect>There's so many fucking options to choose from.None that won't make insisting on the endings for 14 years seem pointless, or won't close down the studio
>>741275075They did some things regarding the Council choices that felt satisfying to me given 2's role as a middle act.Okay, I get it wasn't really The Plot, and maybe should've been, but there are neat variations throughout Zakera Ward that made me feel like the world was persistent with the choices.3 is worse, because it often lampshades the fact that there is no follow through at all. Like the Council just reappearing, but in 2 they said it was a "human controlled council" and some aliens on the Citadel brought it up during side quests and store dialogue to show that humans are less trusted now.And then in 3 they just pretend all that tension never happened, and occasionally change some dialogue based on killing the council or not, but it's never said out loud anymore, and instead they throw in a joke or something to make it seem as if we already knew there just is this new council that looks exactly like the old one.
>>741275203You can intrude upon the endings and canonize them at the same time. It isn't hard, and there are no ending fanboys in any significant majority who will cause an uproar if they do it.Only losers will get mad at BioWare for retconning the piece of trash that is the last 20 minutes of Mass Effect 3.
>>741272570Best combat of the trilogy
>>741275203>They won't do this because it won't sell.It's literally just Andromeda but done right. A western set in space with a manifest destiny motif could sell gangbusters imo >They can't intrude on the endings, or canonize one.They can. Either they man up and canonize one ending or they set it in an AU world.>Side game, not mainline mass effectMeme. You don't need a world ending or galactic level threat for a compelling story. And I wish more people would understand this. People loved 1 for the worldbuilding, the characters, the mystery, and the choices you could make. People loved 2 because of the companions and the hijinks you got up to with them to make them loyal. And people loved the Citadel DLC in 3 where you were basically fighting the villain of the week while shooting the shit with your crew. You don't need Reapers or a Reaper like threat to get people engaged to the story.
Can you imagine anyone born beyond 97 playing mass effect 1? They are so mentally fucked they cannot even fathom driving a fucking rover over a grey space rock for 1 codex that they won't read.
>>741275364The problem is that Bioware has insisted for 14 years now that they won't intrude on the endings and that the endings are final. The problem isn't the fanboys, the problem is that this is them going back on their over a decade old narrative. Which makes them looks like fucking idiots for insisting on something that everyone knew wasn't defensible. Which makes doubly stupid how they insisted on those endings in the first place. And what's triply stupid, is waiting until, likely, 2029 at the earliest to undo a decision that everyone knew was bad in 2012. So now they have to take that decision to their grave.
>>741275451Based on the modding discord before the tranny admins banned me there's a lot of zoomers, even the nonbinary ones who only like ME1 and not the other games.
>>741275476Seems like a complete non issue to me. They can just change their minds and fans will approve en masse. This is literally what keeps true fans from going back to Mass Effect
>>741275451I was born and 99 and ME1 is my favorite game of the trilogy. I played each game as they released.
>>741275554in 99*
>>741275374>>It's literally just Andromeda but done rightNo, it's not. It's a prequel that doesn't matter and is completely skippable. Not to mention, you can't introduce a new cast from a company that hasn't made a good cast in 15 years. This game has no hook, and the audience will just not spend $70 on it. It is a death sentence.>They can. Either they man up and canonize one endingSee >>741275476 >or they set it in an AU world.Nobody is playing off brand/off canon Mass Effect.>MemeThis is also, basically, Andromeda, but done different. And it won't sell. Mass Effect ceiling in 2029, in my opinion the earliest this next game can hope to release, is ~1.2m copies sold. About as well as Andromeda. Due to niche genre, brand damage and Bioware reputation. This is a game with a budget of at least $200m US, that will need to sell ~4m copies at launch just to break even, just so EA won't close the studio.
>>741275530>>Seems like a complete non issue to meIt is to everyone with half a brain. But Bioware going back on it, is like Disney going back on the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy. It's not happening.
>>741275554You played ME1 at 8 years old?I was 14 when I played Baldur's Gate in 1998.
>>741275680Most of the management is gone, and new staff can easily persuade the old vets to reconsider. They also know the endings were a compromise even as they shipped them.
>>741272427>implying brown people are interested in science fiction
>>741275720>You played ME1 at 8 years old?Yes lol. And many times since then.
>>741275791Well, they have not, and still openly will state that they will not intrude upon "your" endings.
>>741272390Were you around when the OGs were released? I doubt it because ME3 discussions were a shitshow on every forum.Zoomers think tlou2 was controversial when that was a nothing burguer compared to ME3 reception.
>>741273945How is your mod going, bro? I remember you posted some webms
>>741275643>No, it's not.The concept for Andromeda was exploring uncharted lands in a galaxy unexplored to humanity, all while defending against hostile factions that want to murder or enslave humanity. The concept I pitched is identical.>It's a prequelAnd? >that doesn't matter and is completely skippable. The point of a game is to have fun. A game isn't homework. Oh, and the idea that a game can't thrive because it's a prequel is idiotic. Halo Reach, Metal Gear Solid 3, Red Dead Redemption 2, Yakuza 0, Devil May Cry 3, Arkham Origins etc. are all prequels and they're all beloved. >Nobody is playing off brand/off canon Mass Effect.Why would it be offbrand? You're literally making up a scenario to be mad at. You are aware that Nier Automata did this, right? It literally canonized one of the endings from the original nier to tell its story. Does that diminish or take away from the original Nier? Does it make Nier Automata bad? No.
>>741275374>they man up and canonize one ending or they set it in an AU world.Did you see what they did to dragon age
>>741272390ME3 was insultingly bad and Andromeda a buggy mess on release that tried to be completely different for less than an hour before reverting to a cheap knockoff of ME1. You can't piss in the pool twice and wonder why no one is swimming, op.
>>741276057>The point of a game is to have funThe point of the game, at this point is>to activate the fanbase>to fix relations between the dev and the fanbase>to re-establish Bioware as an important studio inside EA>to re-establish Mass Effect as a tentpole franchise>to make back its budget>to keep the studio open, so that more games can be made in the futureThere is no good will toward Bioware, and Mass Effect is an "unc" franchise. Nobody is buying it. If nobody is buying it, then the game does not serve its purpose. How it achieves all these is up to the studio, but ultimately, it depends on the wants of the fanbase. And the only thing the fanbase wants, they showed it back in 2020, is Shepard. Everything else is irrelevant to them, and any other game will flop.
>>741276129Obviously, you'd tardwrangle the writers so that they don't take a shit on the lore or the characters
>>741272390browns
>>741272390me3 and andromeda happened
>>741276517Absolutely true.Add to that>DA2>SW:ToR>DA:I>Anthem>VeilguardAnd, well ... here we are. Also, rumor is as of July, Bioware will close down, or be further downsized to be absorbed by some other EA studio.
>>741276827>Bioware will close downThey did it to themselves to be honest. Mass Effect Andromeda was fucking awful. And Dragon Age 4 was an abomination that should've been aborted at the concept stage, considering that not even the most diehard fans can defend it.
no gamesthe only discussion is occasional hornyposting about sexy aliens because that lasts foreversad that i'll never have an turian gf
>>741277147>turian gf
>>741276942It was rather evident that you can only fuck up for so long, without actually attracting any audience, let alone a new audience, before the end times come. Had Veilguard earned them some good will, they might have more freedom to do things, but it failed on so many fronts, that it was unsalvagable. Even Gaider was unhappy with what Weekes did to it.
>>741272390because you and anyone else that cares about it are old and jaded
>>741278325I think the jaded part is more important than the old part.
>>741276827How is BioWare even alive past 2012 I'll never know
In theory, you could just hire good people and make good games. In reality a lot of the institutional knowledge and teams that took decades to build up, has gone.Making good games now, would be like making good practical monster effects. No matter how much money you put into it, you can't make good practical effects anymore cause all the industry and skilled people are not where or as practiced as they were.
>>741278417Well, ME3 was still a success, the MP crowd poured million into the lootboxes, they thought that DA:I was a "success" and in spite of Andromeda "underperforming" and Anthem being a failure, the Bioware name still had some worth out there. But now, not only can Bioware not talk about anything without getting backlash, what positive feedback they do get is from bootlickers like KalaElizabeth and they have come under the conclusion that there is nobody they can talk to, to get help because they have alienated everyone that would give it to them, and have only kept the ass kissers, which makes their feedback irrelevant. Even then, the 2020 teaser reaction gave them a clear direction of what to do, but they don't want to follow it, because it is difficult, but also because if they do, it will make them look like idiots.>>741278584>In theory, you could just hire good peopleAt least three different hair colors per person. Non-negotiable hiring practice.
>>741272390>reddit beard
>>741275016>custom shepard>non-canon armour
>>741272390You can only talk aboht quarian and asari women craving big human cock so many times.
>>741275720Not '99 but 4yo I was playing ridge racer and shit with my bro7-8yo I had my own PC
>>741279132At 8 years old I was playing "Spooked" on an Amstrad CPC-6128. And Hero Quest. Man, I fucking loved these two games. And Nekketsu Kōha Kunio-kun, a.k.a. Renegade.
>>741272390Because the ending to 3 was such a nuking of the franchise's momentum to the point it was basically the Games of Thrones' finale before Game of Thrones' finale.And then Andromeda happened and that was just the Chicxulub asteroid impact right on top of the smoldering remains.
>>741278742>Mass Effectfags don't understand roleplayingwater is wet
>>741272390remember 3 and Andromeda
>>741275554why is Crichton such a goated protagonist
>>741272390I miss the 1000+ page threads of geth vs quarians debates
>>741280163>roleplaying as... commander shepherd
>>741272390there hasn't been a new game in years we've all talked about everything already
>>741280261>why is Crichton such a goated protagonistIt was an Australian show.
>>741272540>There's nothing left to discussIts this.>ending sucksIt does but I didn't have a problem with it. But is that even worth discussing especially so long after the fact? Maybe there should be discussion about hysteria and social media because the endings being so shitty wasn't actually that big a deal but these days all the hysteria is generated by bots so even that discussion isn't really topical to current internet browsing experiences.>Games became casual after 11 was the best in terms of narrative design but controlling Shep felt a lot better in 2 and 3 even if it was a change towards more casual audiences.>>741272390Everyone who loves the Mass Effect series has already played the games to death, Andromeda was poorly received and no one wants another game like that and since Veilguard just indicates things got worse there's no reason to be hyped for the next one.At the same time because of that there's no new audiences coming in from gen-z.I miss the meanwhile on extranet threads where everyone larped being in the mass effect universe. Those were always fun threads to read through and post in.
>>741283893You'd think that 9 years after the last game, which nobody even played, and 14 since the franchise was even remotely relevant, all conversation about this franchise would be exhausted. It's nice to talk about it, but at this point the conversation shift to current day Bioware, game dev and waifus.Blue Star 2 and N7 Parnack Negotiations are my 2 go to videos. What are yours?
>>741284374Are 'strayans and sci-fi a match made in heaven?
>>741283639
What the fuck do you want to discuss about the game that came out before you was born and had been discussed though and through?
>>741284506>Are 'strayans and sci-fi a match made in heaven?I think so. We just don't do enough of it anymore.
>>741272390ME3 was so bad that it made discussing previous games a waste of time.
>>741284570Not only that, it is very difficult to give a shit about it the moment>Bioware killed it>Bioware doesn't want you to think about it>Bioware doesn't want to have to deal with it>Bioware will take the next game as far away from the events of the trilogy to not have to address itIf the company that is making the game doesn't want you to care about it, why would you care about it?
>>741284447I wish sfmdh hadn't stopped working on the sequel to Parnack Negotiations.
>>741284695He has 2-3 other projects he wants to get through, he also wants to learn stuff like fluid simulation physics in blender, and then work on it, for what he has in mind. Which is why it has been taking him so long. It will likely take him that much longer, too. I argued with him years ago that he needed to focus more on his larger projects that he's neglected, but he didn't want to stop the loops that are his primary drive for income. Which makes sense, but you can't have both. He changed that last year, which is why he released the Ivy movie after, like, 10 years. And did he also release the Lulu one, or is he working on it now?
>>741278679My hair is blond, i have greys and my crotch hair is red (why?).Easy shit.
>>741284889>my crotch hair is redSome ancestor had an std that caused it.
>>741284968Weird.
>>741272390
>>741274829> I dunno why Bioware has taken so long to make a new, high quality Mass Effect game.Because they're retards that will try to blame everything on EA and audience. They made DA Origins and then they started to dislike it for not being "inclusive" and for being too dark. They got pissy because people were criticizing them during DA2 and Inquisition for moving away from Origins, and they finally nuked everything veilshit so hard lots of people on DA side got fired with all writers. Good fucking riddance to those faggots.After the trilogy ME team released Andromeda, but it was so mid, and a downgrade to a trilogy that people forgot about it . Then you had Anthem that was a mismanaged shitshow and didn't bring in cash.>They could do post destroy ending where the galaxy is slowly rebuilding after the Reaper War, in a world where all of the infrastructure has been destroyed, entire races have been decimated or even wiped out, and faster than light travel is now impossible due to the destruction of the relays.That's what they're doing according to leaks so far. The good things so far is that the lead writer is from DEHR, all former writers were axed after veilshit, and in last 2 years all "modern audience inclusivity" vanity games bit the dust so hard studios are getting closed left and right.
>>741285108The real answer is >the unwittingly promised a return to Shepard with the 2020 teaser, because Liara+N7=Shepard to anyone that is a fan of Mass Effect>it showed them an enthusiasm for anything Bioware that they hadn't seen in 8 years>took too long>can't walk it back>can't show new crew, because they are afraid they will draw reactions similar to Veilguard>can't show new protagonist because without Shepard hype is gone>can't make a direct sequel that undoes ME3 because it's a lot of work and also will go against 14 years of Bioware corporate messaging>it will also be an admission that the fans were right all along>it will also mean they were wrong in making Andromeda>too proud to admit any of that>rather be silent, show nothing, get paid, and maybe by 2031 when this game releases nobody will remember the franchise at all and it will release with nobody noticing>but at least they got paid for 11 years, from 2020 to 2031
>>741285452All true except for >rather be silent, show nothing, get paid, and maybe by 2031 when this game releases nobody will remember the franchise at all and it will release with nobody noticing>but at least they got paid for 11 years, from 2020 to 2031If velishit did well they would have more margin, but it didn't and EA axed writers and bunch of staff that worked on it. But even if it did well the xbox pruning is going to fuck them over because everyone in game industry will see that and do their own layoffs and in q3 report they'll address it as industry wide event. They're forcing Bethesda to make and release TES6, laying low and doing nothing won't work.If I am being optimistic beancounters in EA saw that repeating veilshit and similar retardations won't work and they tossed out initial drafts and ideas.
>>741286164There is a good likelihood that this already happened. Sylvain Trinel who broke the story about XBOX's brutal cuts also mentioned Bioware. It is likely that, for Bioware, that was the plan, until EA started making demands. If that assumption is correct, then it means that some internal review was failed by Bioware, and now they are staring down the barrel of a gun. It is also rather telling how Mike Gamble, who usually is quick to dismiss these rumors about anything Bioware, has not said a goddamn thing this time around. Which kinda tells me there is more to this rumor than just being a rumor.
>>741286389Interesting, can you share more info on that? I haven't heard anything on bioware in the last few months other than them shutting down some creator program and something about them being bought by arabs.If true those are great news because in this climate there's no justifiable wiggle room for them to try and repeat andromeda, veilshit, or any other "modern inclusive" type of game.
>>741286746There isn't much to share, unfortunately. It seems that the Bioware part of the rumor flew under the radar due to the much bigger studios involved in current layoff rumors, like Bethesda, Id, Bungie etc. while Bioware is basically a non-entity now. Most of what I said is speculation, but usually EA axes projects after failed internal reviews. Which coincides with Mike Gamble saying how busy they were a few months back, how obviously absent they have been for the past 8 months from any kind of presence really and how showing something at this year's SGF would be a good thing. It also seems to coincide with news of the Amazon show stalling, and time on that window running out.Here are Sylvain's tweets about the layoff rumors from yesterday.https://x.com/SylvainTrinel/status/2066642220074070247https://x.com/SylvainTrinel/status/2066642850314441067
>>741272540Spbp
>>741284446Having decent controls and shotguns that actually function differently outside of 200 vs 210 damage isnt casualization. It was never a hardcore stat driven rpg you faggot.
>>741272390Because bioware turned into a bunch of whinny faggots like every other studio that exists in North America.
>>741272570Best game of the trilogy. Storyfags will shit and piss themselves trying to deny this.
>>741287586Thanks. It looks like we are in a win-win scenario, they either make a good ME game people like, or they get fired.
>>741272390It's been 14 fucking years since 3 released. What is there to even discuss anymore?
>>741289650Which alien ass tastes best.
>>741289262>they either make a good ME game people likeI just want to say that Veilguard passed through those same reviews and hit the market. It doesn't mean that the game will be good. It just means that BioWare managed to provide the EA internal review team with at the very least the minimum required to not fail.
>>741287586So maybe the sequel will be called Mass Layoffs
>>741272390Because we all moved on with our livesWe only stuck around when ME had promise. Now it's just meant to be forgotten
>>741290465True, but what changed massively compared to veilguard are market factors. Huge number of "inclusive" entertainment projectsand studios failed spectacularly, public sentiment against it is huge and default, and they even have their own veilshit example. But what's even better is that games that reject that are selling a lot.There is no way in hell EA missed that.
>>741293397I have no data points to tell you what that looks like, or why I should be excited. With nothing to show, I can't tell you what they have done, what are they doing, or what they are hoping to achieve.
>>741293952I'm not excited about the next ME, I'd very much like for them to make it an amazing one. Before velishit the chances for that were slim to none, after it they improved a bit but now with all those failed projects and studios chances for that are much better. It's pretty obvious what people want and are willing to spend money and time one, and this is visible in numbers, in sentiment, in discourse, almost everywhere. So if they choose not to act on that good riddance to all of them.
In light of recent incursions, it's an honour to be joined by the races of the Milky Way... and not faggot-ass indoctrinated flashlight heads like joined the reapers! They should fuckin' die!
>>741272540>even after all these years he still seethes about the fact she's the only good romance option in the gameSad!
Mass Effect, much like everything Bioware touched, was always kind of ass.
>>741294785If that's true, then they know that Shepard will sell enough to save their game. So if they do follow what the money says, maybe they will limp to the next game.
