SKG bros... It's over
>It's Over>Community Note says it isn't overWHO AM I TO BELIEVE?!
>>741279281Yes we know, we don't need another twitter fag telling us about it thread
>>741279324More on that later.
>>741279324the community note is cope. the communists lost
>>741279352But first, let's talk about the music.
>>741279352BUT NOW, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE MUSIC
>>741279281People who were against this are the same people who celebrated elon musk becoming a trillionaire
>>741279281Imagine how good it'd be if it passed. Every gacha would pull out from the EU.
>politicians want to create some illusion in which they allow citizens to propose laws for the EU>set the unrealistic goal of 1 million votes so no one can do it>someone does it>erm we will think about it
>>741279395We just need to give rich people all of our money and eventually they'll solve all of society's problems. Or something like that
>>741279281>keep games playable after they stop being sold commerciallyThis language is loaded and makes it sound like an active thing that needs to be maintained. When it truth they just need to not disable LAN and the games will be playable forever.
>entire EU commission looked like it wad going all in just a month ago>Have a secret behind closed door meeting with a lobbying group representing Ubisoft, EA, Activision and Take Two>All without the initiatives representatives so there's no one who can question all of the bullshit spilled >Suddenly the entire motion is rejected Free market and capitalism wins again :^)
>>741279281>IT'S OVER SKG LOST!!!!!!>shills get btfo>shills mass report the thread>mods delete the thread>shills try again in a new threadhttps://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/741275912/#741277401Let's see how long this one lasts
Why did the last thread get pruned?
>>741279281>it can not propose a legal obligationits one of the largest political bodies on earth and it "can't"? Who the fucks going to stop them, the publishers?Why do they lie, why not just tell the truth>We don't want to. Fuck off.Would honestly be preferable
>>741279281It's a syndicracy at this point.
>>741279395Some people don't like the idea of people running to one of the most authoritarian governments in the West and asking them to meddle in videogames to protect them from their own purchasing decisions you bootlicking retard.
skigger sisters.....we lost....
>>741279723>one of the most authoritarian governmentsTurbs out authoritarianism is when you can leave whenever you want with 0 consequences
>>741279703>go to lawmakers and ask them to make a new law>they politely explain to you it would violate existing laws >cry on the internet about itlol you're a bitchand you lost
>>741279673Because OP is just shitposting for (You)s and has no concrete proof on anything he is saying. He probably does this because his parents never loved him so now he tries to get any amount of attention to feel sane, even bad attention.These threads are also obviously bumped in a way to catch /pol/ posters attention.
>>741279324>>741279703>Who the fucks going to stop them, the publishers?Publishers can just pack up and relocate to the UK or USEU loses money because of the industry exodusIts not that hard
>>741279791https://citizens-initiative.europa.eu/stop-destroying-videogames_enyou lost skigger
>>741279791true, i'm only here because someone posted an identical thread on /pol/just wanted to say the EU sucks my balls and fuck kikes
>>741279792Yeah all those companies that exited the EU market when they forced all cellphone manufacturers to adopt USB-C and now in February 2027 this>Cellphone manufacturers will be forced to design smartphones with user-replaceable batteries starting on February 18, 2027, under a sweeping mandate passed by the European Union.
>>741279792Europe has their own vidya market already and I doubt any sensible business man would pull out of a whole ass continent like that.
>>741279792>Scandis (who make up about 50% of the vidya industry in EU) are too chickenshit to actually do anything about it>The rest are just puppets of the american industry so they'd jump ship for literally any reason, even this oneThe EU parliament is about as retarded as the one in the US I guess, neither of them have yet to figure out that siding with elite interest always backfires because said elites doesn't give a fuck about anything but themselves, if some Afircan warlord offered them free icecream and 20% less taxation they would jump straight in bed with him as long as their bottom line remains untouched.
>>741279281Good, the last thing we need is even more government overreach.
>>741279779It's not a dictatorship but the EU bans certain colors in tattoos. I don't want those retards meddling in the gaming industry and if it means you get caught by your shit purchasing decisions, I'm okay with that.
>>741279703That's not what that means, they're not saying that they're physically incapable of doing it and I don't think anyone interpreted it as such
>>741279786>>741279846>YOU LOST GO AWAY!!!!>look closer>there are consumer protection laws for this already, go to parliament shills are dishonest as always
>>741280104You lost skigger.
>>741279978>Cellphone manufacturers will be forced to design smartphones with user-replaceable batteriesThe Apple iPhone and the Samsung Galaxy S Ultra are excluded, so it's not really a big deal.
>>741279281>campaign organizers state that they are continuing by seeking to amend it into the Digital Fairness ActTHAT IS THE FUCKING DIGITAL ID LAW!Now StopKillingGames is in favor of the stupid online censorship act?Holy shit.
>>741279978Not that anon, but software industry is different than hardware industry. Companies already have commited factory production, marketing, stores, etc for the sale of those products and cellphones are products with a pretty big profit margin compared to the cost of producing the product AND are a high demand item.Game devs are currently "struggling" to even sell consistently in the current market and a proper law like that would discourage them from bothering releasing stuff in the EU unless they were sure they'd get some return.I support SKG, but there are arguments to be made, even if I personally think they are shallow.
>>741280052oh we will certainly get more government overreach, representing the interests of big tech/corp.
>>741280134lol monkey paw for skiggies uh oh.........skiggers made a stinky! *fart!*
Games are not physical products you can "own". They are walks in the park, a ball game with your friends, a trip to an amusement park. They are just things for entertainment to pass the time.You don't gain full ownership of the park or ball game because you spent $20 on a ticket. Funny how that works huh?Turns out the EU can't make laws that break other laws.
>>741280104Modern discourse is a joke, it's no longer about being correct, it's about making the other side angry.
>mods trying to delete any threads about SKG with prejudiceThey literally protect corporations FOR FREE LMAO
>>741280058>the EU bans certain colors in tattoosno it doesn't, it banned a ingredient in colored ink due to it causing cancer, its up to the ink manufacturers to change that if they want to keep selling there
>>741280058First time I've heard of it, so I looked it up. It seems like they don't ban "color" as much as certain chemicals that are used to create these colors since they are quite literally causing cancer and brain damage. If the manufacturers can prove that they aren't using chemicals that cause any harm to the human body then they are allowed to use whatever the fuck to make whatever the fuck color.
justdontbuythegameifyoudontliketheirpracticesno need to legislate a luxury good you fucking moronsJust learn some fucking self-control and vote with your fucking wallet.
>>741279616You just know it wasn't even about money. The publishers probably just promised even more censorship and policing of thought crimes, perhaps even surveillance, to the EU commission if they left them alone.
>>741280176I was waiting for this one>walks in the park>$20 ticket>Implying temporary access to public parksDo Americans really?
Thor... won....
>>741280134>yes, we didn't get the law we wanted>but may i interest you in this online censorship bill? You want to protect the children and force id verification on online platforms, right? This will be good for video games!
>>741279281The image you posted literally say it isn't over.
>>741280192skigger tears aren't /v/, they are /pol/go have your clitty leak where it belong :)
>>741279616TKD
>>741280228>vote with your fucking wallet so the corporation can keep ignoring you!
>>741280134What's the problem?That includes killing CS2 and TF2 main source of income this October. Key gambling.
Funny how the loudest voices in SKG never made a game, but they sure know how to demand indies to sacrifice everything.
>>741280271Level 60 hardcore mage status: ALIVESKG status: DEAD
>>741280228>Vote with your wallet>In the same thread where people were seriously doomposting about game developers not selling to the EUCan't have it both ways.
>>741280228>Just vote with your wallet!I've been doing this for 20 fucking years now and we STILL have online only DRM on singleplayer games and live service games that are designed to be virtual casinos instead of whatever the fuck the "game" part is supposed to be
>>741280338picrel is the skigger puckering up for jew anus if they will just let them attach their gay shit to digital ID laws
The last time i bought a video game was 9 years ago.
>>741280343What Indie game would have a centralized server instead of server hosting or P2P connections?
>>741280228I already do that.Moldman movement is the dessert.
>>741279281>expected anything from the EU>the same EU that is pro censorship and pro mass migrationOh i'm laughing
>>741280228>Voting with your wallet >Working
Why do trannies and skgfags hate AI so much?
>>741280338>turning your continent into a totalitarian panopticon to own silly hats on TF2 serversI didn't really expect much from your lot but damn, useful idiot.
>>741280442Soul dlc
>>741280343>You never made a entire car from scratch how dare you demand car companies not to shut your vehicle down when they feel like it
>>741280134>THAT IS THE FUCKING DIGITAL ID LAW!>randomly blow shit out my ass>jeetshills eat it right up without checking anythingKek there you go
>>741280402I'm going to buy Dynasty Warriors 3 remake later. The only game I bought for the past 5 years is PEAK.
>>741279281>>741279324The EU Commission is basically the anti-human rights side of the EU. They love big corpos, want all citizens dead and are pushing mass surveillance. The EU Parliament is more likely to side with gamers
>>741279281Nice (((Democracy))) you got there pal!
>>741280343>Indies>Being able to afford always online DRM, hosting their own servers or ripping personal info on an industrial scaleThe only reason why the vidya industry actually cared this time is because it only hurts the bottom line of AAA devs/publishers, even if indies wanted to do live service slop they quite literally can't afford to, otherwise they wouldn't have been indie in the first place.
>wut u mean we lost>we da good guys we cant lose?
>>741280374>>741280442It does work, it just turns out you're not the majority and most people wouldn't give a fuck about it even if the question was put to a referendum
>>741279281>EU passes some gay bullshit laws like they always do>now companies will also have to throw away money to revive servers for PS3/360 era games that have been dead for over a decade so that a handful of retards can fire them up once every blue moon instead of developing new games>now game companies will be disincentivized to develop single player games with offline capabilities because of piracyIt's like not one of you fucking idiots thought any of this through. This is going to give game companies all the justification they need to continuously raise the price of games if they can claim they need to continue supporting them forever, which ultimately is what SKG's entire purpose is despite what that homeless looking retard says. You do realize that always online requirements were implemented in the first place because piracy is so rampant on PC that developers had to find a way to combat it? And only after a game has lost >99% of its userbase that the servers are shut down? And that a developer has zero incentive to shut down a game if it still has what it considers to be an active user base who still play it regularly? And that the only games being shuttered are those that literally nobody plays anymore?
>>741279592It's more of a DRM issue. If you can't connect to the DRM servers your game is bricked. All they have to do is take out the DRM and problem solved. This problem is old as shit too. Plenty of games from the early 2000s that you can have an in box copy of and never be able to play because of DRM.>If buying isn't owning; than piracy isn't theft.
>>741280491I despise gambling more than censorship.
>>741280554Too bad most people are fucking retards who dont even know better and shouldn't have voting rights
>>741280546The good guys haven't been winning at least since ww2. Maybe longer.
>>741280571>now companies will also have to throw away money to revive servers for PS3/360 era games that have been dead for over a decadeLike clockwork, holy shit. All these months later that they still try this dead goveaway of a shill narrative
>>741280598>All they have to do is stop protecting their intellectual property! problem solved!skiggers are children, they don't have adult thoughts and don't perceive grown up problemsits why we got to this point at all, but finally they got a reality check
>>741280237Probably. They convicted them that they won't be able to ban wrongthink in private servers and that's the most important feature. What if someone says something bad about the browns in private company.
OMG my live service slop!
>>741280663you lost skigger
>>741280598>Plenty of games from the early 2000sTry games from the 90s as well.Safedisc DRM no longer works because W10/11 nukes the dll.
>>741280554>it just turns out you're not the majorityVoting with your wallet doesn't work because the minority of people represent the highest amount of buying power(whales), microtransactions are aimed at attracting these types of people.
>>741280598>>If buying isn't owning; than piracy isn't theft.Piracy isn't theft even if buying was owning. It's simply not theft. And the law agrees. >It's more of a DRM issue. If you can't connect to the DRM servers your game is bricked. You don't need to have remote-server DRM though. Your game can still have DRM. And can still have LAN. These concepts aren't mutually exclusive. >>741280665>>All they have to do is stop protecting their intellectual property! problem solved!They don't need to. No.
>>741280058Brother your country is scared of Kinder eggs. I am going to just assume you're a mutt. If you aren't, you're still a mutt in spirit.
>>741280753so you don't spend money on games, and you think companies would cater to you? wow you're a fucking retard if you don't like the product don't buy it, and then whatever happens to that product won't matter to you
>>741280442This and the WoW celestial steed convinced me we were in for a real bad time for a long time.
>>741280554Most people wouldn't give a fuck didn't give a fuck about the health risks of smoking yet laws were created so the average retard doesn't kill himselfIgnoring something morally wrong for the sake of profit is never a solution
>>741280554>People don't care that they are getting swindledIs that why the AAA industry is desperately looking for some sort of magical secret audience that will support them as every attempt at live service slop and DEI has ended in failure the last 3 years?The only reason why they are failing now is because people can't afford to be dumb with their money anymore, so the first thing that gets cut out is slop entertainment which is also why indie games like Silksong and AA/AAA devs that actually respect their audiences still earn more money than ever before, because they actually earn the trust of their audiences.The problem isn't really that "voting with your wallet" doesn't work, it's that whoever holds the most money in whatever industry they are in can strongarm people into doing whatever the fuck they want at the cost of everyone else up until said industry collapses under it's own hubris. I'd rather have devs pivot into being more consumer centered then the entire industry crashing and burning because some greedy retards at the top literally can't stop being greedy even if their lives depended on it.
>>741280791>They don't need to. No.You're brown. You lost.
>>741280731Not yet, corposhill
>>741280813It does matter to me because it affects things I WANT to buy.
>>741280856>I need da gobermint to protec me from heckin cigarettes!1skiggers are retardedit's why they lost
>>741280665The entire purpose of protecting intellectual property is so you can profit from it. If you aren't doing anything with it what is the point. Also remember that copyright is a monopoly government enforces on your behalf in the first place because it believes it's in the best interest, it doesn't have to do this.
>>741280598>You now remember SecuROMThanks for reminding me, fuck you
>>741280891>It's not over yet. There is still the california bill. Stay strong guys.
>>741279616For anyone wanting qrd, it went like this.Also this >>741280274The usual tricks.
Stop posting off-topic garbage, subhuman /pol/skin.
>>741280871They don't need to stop their DRM. They don't.
>>741279324>>741280891If they didn't pass as a Citizen Initiative and they were given very specific reasons as to why (it can be seen as violating intellectual rights) I don't see how they can realistically lobby the EU Parliament itself into giving a different answer.
>>741280902>I WANT TO BUY IT>I NEED TO BUY IT>I HAVE TO BUY IT >I HAVE TO PLAY IT>I HAVE TO HAVE IT>I HAVE TO HAVE IT FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER AND IF YOU GET IN THE WAY....>IM GUNNA HAVE THE GOVERNMENT KILL YOU!!!
>>741279281The people who were against this are the same people who chop off their own dicks.
I see the demoralising corponiggers are in overdrive, spewing shit, lies and dishonesty everywhereDon't you worry, you disgusting foreskin-grabbing stingy kikes, the time is nighTime for vidya will come, alhamdulillah
>>741281034You don't need to pirate games. You don't.
>>741280946>The entire purpose of protecting intellectual property is so you can profit from it. If you aren't doing anything with it what is the point.By that logic companies should be forced to release their games' source code the second they stop publishing them.
>>741280925Why not just make heroin and alcohol legal for children while your at itLolberts sure love bootlicking as long as the boot belongs to a CEO
>make games that have made crap loads of money illegal to sellIsn’t this just encouraging making free but pay to win games?
>>741280708This
>>741280228I've been voting with my wallet for decades and the industry still went to shit.Maybe voting with my wallet doesn't actually work.
>>741279542That's the EU for you>vote against immigration>umm did you mean 100 billion more thirdworlders sweetie? I think you did.
>>741279616Companies being in bed with government is the opposite of free market capitalism, retard.
autistic shut in gamers tried their hand at the most milqetoast limp dick internet activism possible, with predictable results no stakes + no money = no results
>>741281038>it can be seen as violating intellectual rightsbut it isnt. That's just an excuse. And they know this.The real reason is that they got lobbied so hard they had no choice but to pass it to parliament instead.
Why are so many nu-"people" such cucks holy shit.Have people always been like this throughout history or is my hypothesis correct that we live in the cuck age because the cuck world order won the war.Maybe what some anons saying that 4chan is half bots is true, otherwise I can't explain the corporate glazers.>inb4 muh freedommost of them don't even know what the initiative is pushing for, they just regurgitate the most goyest of contrarian slop I've heard.I've finally seen the light. Most humans aren't sentient.
>>741281187I know it's an excuse but I can't imagine the excuse suddenly changing or becoming any weaker in the eyes of the law.
>>741281132you won't do shit skiggyyou lost bad, now you can cope
>>741281118Ok. But the corpos need to enable LAN. That's what we were talking about. Before you started crying about DRM. And they can have both LAN and DRM if they so insist on having the DRM.
>>741280813>Hey waiter! I'd like a cheeseburger please>Sure thing boss! A cheeseburger with extra cum coming right up>Hey! I didn't say that I wanted cum on it!>Too bad for you! We only sell cheeseburgers with cum on them!>Then I'm not paying>FUCK YOU, WE NEED TO CUM ON ALL THESE BURGERS OTHERWISE WE ARE ALL GOING TO LOSE OUR JOBS!>Sounds like a (You) problem to me then>Good luck finding a joint that sells burgers without cum on them then ;)>Guess I'll just stop eating burgers thenIt cuts both ways retard-kun
He did nothing wrong.
>>741281187actually they know better than you skiggeryou went to them because you acknowledged their status as valid government lawmakers, so you can cry, but you definitely can't pretend that their ruling is invalidnow plug up your leaky clitty, you're making an awful mess >>741281221>anyone who disagrees with me is evillmao faggot
>>741281221Reminder that a good portion of online users you talk to are not white or are underage.
>>741281057Why do all of us have to suffer terrible practices because the minority wants to piss away money?
>>741281251Was that bounty for him ever paid out?
>>741281301>you definitely can't pretend that their ruling is invalidThey said it themselves>existing consumer protections, take it to parliamentYou seem desperate, corpocuck. Is this thread going to get deleted soon?
>>741281221>Half botsWorse, it's shitposters who have literally nothing else in their lives so they waste it here, like this anon said >>741279791
>>741279542>unelected leftoid bureaucrats wipe their asses with the will of the peopleWho could have guessed?
>>741281132>I need big daddy government to tell me not to kill myself cause I can't make that decision in my ownYou're so cucked and you don't even realize it retard. Next you're gonna vote for them to pick out your job for you and force everyone to wear velcro shoes so no one trips over laces anymore.
>>741280554Okay, I don't give a fuck what the average golem wants. I'm gonna do whatever I can to get what I want.
But how does this affect me?
>>741281242No they don't. It's their product to do with what they want. The EU just explained that to you, so listen to the adults. >>741281251Luigi is a retard. A CEO is an employee of the shareholders/board of directors. Killing a CEO is just killing upper management. If you wanted to make a real splash you will kill the actual board of directors, the actual money, the actual ones directing what the CEO does.You're a dumb lefty faggot who doesn't understand how literally anything works though, so you think this dude is a folk hero for executing a replaceable stooge.
>>741281251I kept saying this from day one. Only concerntrolling golems disagree.
>>741281248>skigger clitty leak fantasy #10818didn't read it + hidden
Can anyone explain to me how is the new amendment for DFA going to pass the European Parliament if the European Commission is against it all? It can't be done, it seems. But at the same time, I don't thing supreme leader of SKG is a retard, so clearly he knows something I don't.
>>741279616>Suddenly the entire motion is rejectedA little correction: it's not rejected, it's been de facto relegated to the Parliament, as there is, in Commission's legal stated opinion, an existing legal basis to deal with the issuesThe Commission are unelected lazy bribed boomer niggers that don't want to do even a modicum of work for their citizens. The Parliament on the other hand has supported SKG from the start, so let's keep going with the legislative process
>>741281402>noo don't kill the CEO>you have to kill all these other people tooGood luck with that.
>>741281403you're much less intelligent and much less edgy than you think you are see >>741281402hopefully you have something like an epiphany
>Prioritizes the rights of brown rapists over consumersEVROPA ÃœBER ALLES!
>>741281402>A CEO is an employeeAnd if enough of them die then no one wants to risk being one, it literally accomplishes the same thing as going after the money directly except if your going after the money then you need to kill 20ish people but if your going after the CEO you only need to kill 1
maybe they should ban children from video games as well
>>741279281WTF man, I only took the opposing stance to troll /v/, I didn't think they were actually going to lose.
>>741281372No, the boomer who ratted on him called the local police and not the FBI so they didn't pay the bounty.
>>741281038>lobbyamerican, we do things differently here.people are just corrupt instead.
>>741281532>you need to kill 20ishThere are like maximum 12 people in most boards of directors, usually less, even in the biggest tech companies
>>741281120I mean, I wouldn't say force to release the code, just not prosecute anyone fiddling with it, but I wouldn't even be against it. You can reprint old books. Things should fall into public domain much faster and I'm generally against eight hindered gorrilion year patents and copyright.
If SKG really lost then why are shills still trying so hard to demoralize and get people to give up trying?
>>741281521>you're much less intelligent and much less edgy than you think you areIronic.
>>741281589So... Is more than 1 bigger than 1 or am I missing something here?
>>741279281The European Comission said no. The European Commission is also a bunch of bitches who consistently fall for lobbying (their chairwoman is known to illegally delete chats with lobbyists) and constantly try to implement mass surveillance, including the chat monitoring that that recently got kicked.The European Council are the good guys who keep these retards on a leash. They are also the ones who ended the chat surveillance and will be the ones who will actually look at SKG.
>>741279281Doesn't Matter, most gamers have gone to Asian, South East Asian, and Indy Games with MMO developers there already adjusting to the Economic crunch which is why Wukong, Stellar Blade Crimson Desert, and Wind Rose are Single Player games made by normally live service MMO makersPeople aren't going to by Game Passes, skins, loot boxes, and vbucks if they can barely afford rent,gas and foodYet, Xbox, Sony, and Western Studios are fucken clueless why their live service games are losing money/fail cause they are out of touch separate from having to still flush DEI ridden crap through the system till 2034 (all. world governments stop funding Extended DEI March 31,2023 with last of approved project grants and loans credits paid out by September 2024 along with ending 2009 Economic Recovery Grants and loan credits and Pandemic Recovery grants and loan credits )
>>741279324Community note now can be spiffed with misinformation.
>>741281532>And if enough of them die then no one wants to risk being oneyou're a kid
>>741281657Don't you dare question the narrative we are building.
>>741281402You're right, he should have gone after the entire board including the CEO.
>>741281521>much less edgyBut I don't intend to be edgy. Killing evil people in the past is what has allowed us this present high trust society.
>>741281667I didn't read the thread, I just saw someone say there are 20 members in Boards of Directors and felt the need to say that's usually not true
>>741281701I guess we just lack underwater welders because people just don't like to be wet
>>741281389>Just let corporations do whatever they want nothing bad can come out of thatYou do know the only reason a company pays your salary in money and not McDonald's coupons is because of the government
>>741281701He might be, but is he wrong?
>>741279616is anyone really surprised that it went down like that? why would they listen to someone who's not in the gaming industry?
>>741281727>what has allowed us this present high trust societyI'm talking to a literal child. You should come back to 4chan when you are above the age of 18, this place isn't good for young teenagers.
>>741281568That is so fucking cheap lmao
>>741281568>70 year old McDicks gran gran worker somehow managed to id the ceo shooter in Susqachuan, Wyoming from three frames of his hooded smiling faceSure thing, bros.
>>741281787Again, is he wrong?
>>741281520>guy kills ceo>shareholders just hire a new oneIt's like comparing manderley and simons.When you kill manderley simons even sends a thank you your way, ceo are nothingburgers
>>741281758Whats even more funny is that this was the case not even 100 years ago and even though it was made illegal there are still companies that tries to get away with it today and they mostly do since no one cares if some African farmer gets paid in "Bluud" coin instead of actual money or some Indian dude that works as a buss driver exclusively gets paid in google gift cards
>>741281787argumentum ad hominem
>>741279324It's not over procedurally, but it's over realistically
>>741280238> He's never been to a paid parkSometimes I almost feel bad for brownoids.Have you ever left your region?
I know that of course anonymous imageboards have a lot of contrarians that just want to get attention from people but looking at how these threads and ones on other sites play out I genuinely believe that there is astroturfing going on. Whether that's corporate interests or american conservatives eager to keep people from deciding that government regulation of business is good for them sometimes (aka corporate interests) who's to sayBut if>what if there were regulatory standard to make sure that multiplayer games can be salvaged after official support by their playerbaseshas so much shilling going for it it really puts into perspective how bad it must be for anything else you're less informed on
>>741279324>>741279281See>>741280539They will use SKG in order to introduce and entrench a bunch of surveillance tools
>>741281874okay go get em tiger
>>741280403Some indies do that, look at Dread Hunger
Notice that they call you names but don't accuse of lying or being wrong.
>>741281568Jesus Christ that's petty and scummy. No wonder why the FBI/CIA can never get solid leads on anything these days if they treat their informants worse that EA treats their customers
>EU politely tells you no we can't do that its illegal>UUUHHHHH FINE DONT YOU REMEMBER LUIGI? WE'RE GUNNA KILL CEOS IF YOU DON'T GIVE US VIDEO GAMES. REALLY FOR REAL. global digital ID can't come soon enough, then you won't say such nonsense
>>741281965They do it brazenly because mods will just delete the thread after they get dogpiled.
>>741279281Rest in piss Moldman. I remember my gay friends trying to get me to sign that petition, always knew that nothing would ever happen from it.
>The EU Parliament is more likely to side with gamerswhat's the next step if parliament fails
>>741282019Ross unleashes the mold within himself
>>741281938>I genuinely believe that there is astroturfing going onNo way.>it really puts into perspective how bad it must be for anything else you're less informed onThat's some dangerous thinking you're doing there. Better stop that.
>>741282019The EU will become the 51st State. The US will side with gamers.
>>741281938there isn't any shilling, skiggers just act funny when you bully them
>>741282019Judicial systemBut considering the support in the Parliament, I'd say it has very positive outlook
>>741282019Probably lawsuits under the Digital Fairness Act.
>>741282019Attempt to pass it in US states. California's lower house already passed an SKG-inspired law, now it's pending passage in the California's upper house and then a signature by the governor of California. SKG may attempt to lobby to pass it in the Senate, and if it fails, in other US states.If even that doesn't succeed, then okay, it's actually over.
>>741281965But you are wrong skigger. The EU told you that you were wrong.You lost.
>>741279281Looks like I was right along along!
>>741280403The ones that want to, you know when they aren't forced to go down a certain path because you can't keep yourself from buying an online only game and then crying when it ends service.
>>741282102With what money skigger? You going to donate? I think not. Maybe you think there's a lot of money in making video games more expensive to develop and maintain? Probably not lmao.
>>741281938If you've been here long enough then you should already be well aware that EA, Activision, Ubisoft and Sony has all been caught in 4k shilling on 4chan before. I wish I saved the images but I'm sure that some other anon might be able to post them as proof
We should make another petition!!!!1 Anything but me having little self control!!
>>741282019>what's the next step if parliament fails
>>741281532They'll just hire security retard.
>>741282131Oh. I didn't know I needed to worship the word of the government as truth. My bad.
>>741282131>The EU told you that you were wrongEU legislation will 100% go in by amendment. The Commission's opinion doesn't matter.>>741282180The industry has already blown more money into seething about SKG than they ever would have spent to get dead games to players, so it's their loss lol.
>>741281957The EU parliament blocked chat control completely. Apple and Google are forbidden to auto scanning the shit from EU chads now.
>>741282264You went to the government because you consider them a legitimate entity and capable of fairly making and enforcing laws on your behalf. They looked at your proposal, told you why they couldn't do it, and now you claim to be a victim of some sort of conspiracy.
>>741279792There would never be an 'exodus', in reality the cost and effort of meeting demands like Ross's would be fucking puny, the idea of exiting the entire Euro market over requirement to make basic bitch efforts to not let the game hang on plug-pull is just another bit of pure horseshit
>>741279281Well well well... Looks like communism once again failed. Now where have we seen this one before?
>>741282278>The Commission's opinion doesn't matter.Sure thing buddy, that's why you feel like you are winning right now. >The industry has already blown more money into seething about SKGnobody spent a dime on this, especially not skiggers
>>741281958Oh, sorry, i didn't realize your skin was the color of shit
>>741282296Government is just a tool and when the tool doesn't do what the people want, it loses legitimacy. Again, I don't worship the state.
>>741282234>Crashing this industry reign ... with no survivors!
>>741282281>EU forces you to take infinite boatniggers and shitbrown muzzrats>oh hey but at least apple has to ask before reading my chat to see what type of vape I buy
>>741279616Nah this was decided years ago.
>>741281158You can't vote in a non-exploitative business practice with your wallet because it will make them more money than a couple principled fags not buying their product will cost them.It's also very hard to prove a negative because boycotts are hard. It's much easier to send a signal by spending money on what you like than by not spending money on what you don't like, because there can be many reasons for the second.
>>741282262>Security gets gunned down>CEOs will never be able to set foot anywhere ever again unless they have armed forces on their asses at all timesI don't think you understand just how pointless that would be. The message still get sent regardless and then no one wants to be their bodyguards instead.This is how escalation of violence starts btw, one side does something the other doesn't like, both garner some sort of support and then they just go at each other until one concedes their point or both forget why they are even fighting in the first place. Your mistake in this instance is that you think that people already have a reason not to try when it's actually the opposite, they have more of a reason to escalate more now than ever because the people they are mad at doesn't give a shit either way and already treat them like they are violent criminals.
>>741282390but it did do what the people wantit protected the interests of a large industry that employs lots of people and promotes culture >I don't worship the state>but I'll cry my bitch tears when the state doesn't give me what I want for minimum effort
>>741279281Why did last general take taken down?
>>741282182Who is more likely to shill for big corpo?The people who tell you to show just a little bit of self restraint and not consoom the latest live service gacha slop?Or the skiggers who promised you that they are safe to consoom now as much as you want because the EU will help you?If I was you I’d ask Ross why he distracted everyone with the Pirate Software retard.
>>741282461You won't do shit skiggie, sit down and jerk off to your vtubers. >>741282430if nobody else cares, maybe its time to re-evaluate if you actually care or not
>>741282413>>oh hey but at least apple has to ask before reading my chat to see what type of vape I buyYou're legit retarded. They're forbidden from scanning messages completely.
>>741282351>that's why you feel like you are winning right nowLiterally winning in California and Europe so yes.>nobody spent a dime on thisPure cope
>>741280442I voted for thisAnd I'll do it again
Maybe people will realize that the European Union has been a net negative for decades now.
>>741279616>Have a secret behind closed door meeting with a lobbying groupLast I heard there were over 30 such meetings
>>741282472>employs lots of peopleSo you prefer serfdom over ownership>promotes culture Thanks for the laugh
>>741282531>if nobody else cares, maybe its time to re-evaluate if you actually care or notEat shit, millions of flies can't be wrong.
>>741282519>The people who tell you to show just a little bit of self restraint and not consoom the latest live service gacha slop?Yes.Reminder that one of these vermin ADMITTED that corporate control is a big problem and then unironically tried to convince others that the best solution is to look away and let them do as they want I can link that post too, if you want. Good chance it was you, too.
Isn't this exactly how the charger thing went?First the commission told the industry to sort out the e-waste problem amongst themselves, and when they didn't they got mandated into USB-c.Im willing to give the commission the benefit of the doubt that they're pulling these shenanigans again.Letting the industry build voluntary end-of-life plans, while at the same time telling them that their progress will be monitored.
>>741282278>The industry has already blown more money into seething about SKG than they ever would have spent to get dead games to playersI would imaging they are more worried about the theoretical losses from not being able to force everyone to drop "game `23 edition" and pay full price for "game `26 edition".
In Europe media companies are litterally and legally just an extension of the government. SKG was never going to work because it was going ot deprived countries like France of essentially a free source of tax revenue
>>741282430Sounds like you are not the majority then.
>B-B-B-UT THE COMMISSION SAID...!!!!!lol corpos and shills lost
>>741282539>litterally lost in europe, california thing is performative legislation that will go nowhere>skiggerteen thinks this is 'winning'lmoa holy shit, try caring about something real
>>741281158>he thinks voting with your wallet means some sort of forcing democratic electionSkiggers sure are tarded
>>741282672>already majority EU parliament supportSKG won, shills are crying
>>741279281>EU actually does something rightRare europoo W
>>741280663Anon when retarded leftists draw up laws to 'fight the housing crisis,' does rent go up or down? You're asking performative cunts with no fucking idea of how things work to fix shit for you so it's certainly a possibility it all ends up on fire.>>741280810I am a proud burgergyro
Damn, I won in the end? But I did nothing
>>741282710>try caring about something realOkaysee>>741282732Real enough for you? Legislation WILL pass with or without the Commission's blessing.
>>741279281There is another simple solution - stop playing live service slop at all
>>741282390>it loses legitimacyPolice and military give it all the legitimacy it needs goy.
>>741282628you are a person, not a fly it's very possible you are just very mentally ill or full of pride, and you take something personally that is not actually a big deal all it takes is rationally and carefully observing your own true feelings about something, and often times you will discover you are angry about something else entirelyit's very(very) unlikely that you actually care about dead, shitty old video games going offline instead, try to understand what you are actually angry about, and then focus your effort and attention on that real thing you can maybe do something about
>>741282629>you don’t understand! I simple must CONSOOOOOOM>OH GOD! I’M CONSOOOOOOMING ALL OVER MY KEYBOARD!!!
>>741279281>one arm of eu is for real going to overturn the other you guise!!Holy COPE
>>741282836Or I can just get permanent recognition that game I purchase with my money are mine and can't be stolen.
>>741282663If 2 people spend $0 but some retard spends $1000 majority doesn't want it but I can't spend negative dollars to even that out. This is why it will never work.
>>741282836Hey, that's exactly what I'm already doing! It didn't stop Bungie from giving up on Marathon though and it didn't stop them from not making the same shitty fucking game for the last 10 years straight.
>>741282886You're unbearable.
>>741282836NOOOOO YOU DON'T GET IT I *MUST* BUY THE NEWEST OF NEW GAAS-SLOP HOW ELSE CAN I JUSTIFY MY VICTIMHOOD!!??!
The jews won. The jews always win. When will you dumb goyim learn your place?
>>741282672>skigger doesn't understand this is a clitty leak document from a politician and not an actual bit of legislationFuuuuck you people are dumb >>741282732>b-but in a single state in the usa something happened!!1 that means the EU has to change its laws!!filthy dumb skigger scum lmao
>>741282461you make it sound like ICE is hunting you lol
>>741280329yeah. Is that a problem?
>>741282818>Legislation WILL pass with or without the Commission's blessing.On what basis do you think that's going to be the case? It's not enough to have the support of the Parliament, you need the unanimous support of the Council if the Commission disapproves of the amendment.
>>741282897>>741282926>>741282972>skigger melty when you ask them to stop eating shit
>>741281402Noo, don't kill their willing golems!
>>741282817I am sorry for ever doubting you. You were the hero we need, not the one we want.
>>741282818>Real enough for you?I really think you didn't read what you just posted. For real. Anyways it will be funny when you lose again, and come here to cry, again.
>>741282919OK cool, they got what they voted for and other two can just not buy it.Whats the issue?
>>741283018>It's not enough to have the support of the Parliament, you need the unanimous support of the Council if the Commission disapproves of the amendmentNope, only of an entirely new law, not an amendment of an existing one.
>>741281248>you don't understand. I literally cannot stop ordering burgers at restaurants
>>741283045golems are made out of clay and easy to re-create, thats the pointso yeah, destroying your life to kill a golem is pretty fucking stupid, if you have a beef with the actual evil masterminds behind a conspiracy that harmed you
>>741282975>JewsCorporations and Corporatism are the enemy, never forget that sputnik.
>>741282983>>741283023>>741283071>not a single rebuttalConcession accepted. I know seeing that list of EU MPs makes you livid that your posts are in vain, but you're unironically in the weakest position you have been in since the very start of this thing so its no surprise.
>>741283091skigger cope is funny
>>741279281I never understood what those annoying redditors even wanted in the first place.
>>741283126you did not read the last line
>>741283179retard
Why skg shills also like this, is it the same people?
>>741279324multiple MEPs have already said they will amend the DFA to include SKG
>>741283213they want the government to fine, arrest or kill developers who don't build permanent online functionality into their online games
>>741279281just stop buying said games? are these people retarded
>>741283213Some bald burger living in Poland on his disabled girlfriends NEET bucks got buyers remorse over his Geshing Impact spending habits and wants a refund.
>>741283206Retard.>>741283256Keep crying.>>741283268>ESL copeHonestly an embarrassing show all around.
>>741283091The law says that if the Commission delivers a negative opinion on an amendment, then the Council needs to vote unanimously, in the second reading at least, although it's written a bit weirdly to me
>>741283307See >>741282972
I guess the mods are complicit in letting some literal autist spam 4chin with his retarded schizo shitposting
>>741283213Commies want to have private servers for games, that's it. Their requests should be discarded.
>>741283327>on an amendment>amendmentThis is the part you keep getting wrong you fucking moron.
I think SKG will pass partly because the EU has been seething at US big tech companies running wild for years now, and this seems like a good avenue for them to pursue further regulation. iirc Zuck is paying like 0.01% of his daily income in antitrust fines, and they need something bigger than that because he does not give a single fuck.
>>741283316Trump won. Piratesoftware won. You lost. Cope and cry more.
>>741283087The issue is they'll never make normal games and I don't want to have to live in a forest like a hermit.
>>741283268Oh nigger please, it's the other way around when people try to misrepresent SKG on purpose.
>>741279356>The communists lost>The people who want you to keep your private property are communists>The people fighting that you own nothing, are CapitalistsWhat?
The EU already gave you a rebuttal. I don't need to give you one also, you dummy.
>>741279592It also ignores the bigger issue that companies like Bethesda have in their T&Cs. That they can at time without notice brick your game and require you to destroy any physical copies you may have.
>>741283392Why so mad? Explain. Your supposed plan is to adopt an amend to the Digital Fairness Act.
>>741279616Is that meeting true?kind of weird because take two never took any of their games offline you can still play rdr 1, GTA IV etc online today.
>>741283403>Trump out of nowhereThe absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence
>>741283418All shills can do is project. They have no ground to stand on, all they can do is call you what they themselves are and hope you do what they want.
>>741283403Finally, someone gets me!
>>741283418yes the people who want to use the government to take private property and distribute it to poor retards, are probably communists >>741283409SKG failed to 'represent' itself properly to the actual EU apparently as well. So who is to blame, really?
>>741283465Well you just lost, so it's not really 'shilling' at this point, it's just bullying a loser. Which is what skiggers are.
>>741283418> >The people who want you to keep your private property are communistsno, SKG (the people who want to eradicate private property) are commies
>>741283452>Your supposed plan is to adopt an amend to the Digital Fairness ActWhich Parliament can do without anybody else's permission all on their own. Just google how this shit works, you clearly don't know it.
>>741283545I agree with this post!
>>741283492>properly to the actual EUYou got that right. The people voted in are just a daycare while the real power is being negotiated behind closed doors by unelected people.
EU>You lost.SKG>Actually, that means we won.kek lefties
>>741279281Pirate Software was unironically right, apologize!
>>741279281>After all that the commission just said "nah fuck off lol"We told you, retardsNow please shut the fuck up forever, you are all very stupid and should not have the right to vote
>>741283407Why not just make those games yourself then? I'm sure you are going to find some likeminded individuals that have money to fund you.
>>741280753Even if the majority refused to buy the latest slop (they) can rig sells and manipulate charts anyway.Also really difficult to get normies on board now with e-grifters being slave shills to sponsorships.
>>741283492>The people lobbing the government behind closed doors with no minutes recorded, so I don't own what I bought are in fact the good guys!What?
>>741283403he won -10 million subs very based of him
>>741279324It's over, the belief that they're gonna amend the digital fairness act to include such a massive rework of intellectual property law is pure delusion like the belief that Trump's executive order would stop credit card companies from censoring pornPeople here are objectively stupid
>>741283715it all makes sense when you realize thirdies bow to whoever has more power over them
>>741283683And build my own house, farm my own grain? There is a certain appeal to homesteading, but I said I don't want to live like a hermit.
>>741283792I've seen those videos where the jeets are standing around in large numbers doing nothing while a couple of police beat the feet of their friends. They truly are a servile race.
>/v/ loves getting fucked in the ass by corporations>yet they lose their shit when there's a gay guy in a video gameStrange.
>>741280228>vote with my wallet>larry fink votes with his>his millions mog my ̶6̶0̶ ̶7̶0̶ 80 USD + DLC + tip
>>741283775Yes, very based of him to express his (correct) opinions, even if it means he'll lose some subs.
>>741279542it really do be like thatthe whole commission itself is set up to be oligarchic
>>741281996I find it sad that I agree with you.Anonymity was but a mirage.
>>741283910Why are you unhappy larry fink wasting his money?
>>741283919yes very based of him to be the laughing stock of the world super kino omega basedhe lost another 500k just this week wew
>>741283939I thought it's meant to be a sort of check and balance.
>>741283213Free shit. They want free shit.What kind of free shit varies person-to-person because they're all illiterate and uncoordinated.The form of SKG that is actually reasonable is disabling phone-home DRM at the end of the game's life.Ross the moldy retard, instead, made a vague demand that NO game could ever be unplayable after the company ended support regardless of how that game actually works, treating simple phone home identically to games where 99% of the game logic is on a cloud service architecture.When informed that this was an overreach that would require ridiculous amounts of free labor and the release of proprietary code with significant value Ross responded with "Nuh uh!"The whole thing has been idiotic from top to bottom.
>>741283963He is the one who makes it :)
>>741283418>"""your""" private property>was actually never yoursWhere have I heard this one before... If I buy a copy of a Mario game, do I now own the intellectual property rights to Mario as whole OR do I have a temporary license to a single instance of specific copy of Mario game?Communists fail this simple guestion 100% of time
>>741283565The European Parliament can introduce amendments on their own, but both the Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_legislative_procedure) and Article 294 (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/treaty/tfeu_2012/art_294/oj/eng) give a more detailed view. It seems to me that amendments do in fact require a unanimous vote from the Council on some amendment IF the European Commission expresses negative opinion about that exact amendment, which it can do at least in the second reading.In the Article 294:>6. The Council shall inform the European Parliament fully of the reasons which led it to adopt its position at first reading. The Commission shall inform the European Parliament fully of its position.>7. If, within three months of such communication, the European Parliament:>(c) proposes, by a majority of its component members, amendments to the Council's position at first reading, the text thus amended shall be forwarded to the Council and to the Commission, which shall deliver an opinion on those amendments.>The Council shall act unanimously on the amendments on which the Commission has delivered a negative opinion.
>>741284001tldr btw you're a ugly loser
>>741282882>gets found outLOOOK AT MY GREENTEXT I AM BEING SILLY!!!!Why are corpocucks like this? And you didnt answer the question either. Should I link your previous shilling attempts for the thread to see?
All of my opinions are objectively correct and I am also a good person. I know you are evil, because you dared to disagree with me about something, even though you know I am objectively correct, and also a good person. How could you contradict me? Even though you know I am correct. You must be evil. There is no possible reason for you to contradict me, considering that you know I am correct and also a good person. Therefore, we have to conclude that you are evil and deliberately interfering with the endeavors of a good and correct person.
>>741283963>wasting FIATThat is what it was made for. The trillion dollar, government-enmeshed company with ties to the printers of your worthless banknotes are not wasting anything.
>>741283982You would never understand
>>741280542The only real democracies left are probably some scenic second world countries full of brown people that nobody's bothered to bomb yet.
>>741284027If I buy a physical copy, at some future point unknown to me will the company who own the original come into my house, destroy my copy? No? Oh funny how that works. WOW. But somehow it's ok if that happens when the game is a digital copy.
>>741283963>spends money>makes more back than spentits over
>>741283797Your whole argument essentially boils down to a need to consume product. The correct desire should be to consume good products and not consume bad products. But the standard today seems to be to just consume product no matter what and then bitch and whine when the quality was exactly as bad as everyone expected.>did you see the latest Star Wars movie >Yeah, that shit was soo bad and woke that I was cringing the whole time in the cinema, and it did not get any better on my second watching. And I bet the special edition version that I’ll buy later will be nothing special compared to the directors cut version that I’ll also buy
>>741283087The issue is that companies will now exclusively cater to the retard who spent $1000 while the two people who spent $0 get nothing, despite the latter actually wanting to partake but not liking the products. This is the reason the industry has drifted into live service/gacha games filled with microtransactions. They don't want to appeal to a large audience like they claim, they want to catch a few of those "$1000 retards" who will make their newest game the retards' forever obsession that they will drop thousands of dollars a month on for the rest of their life. If Genshin Impact can do it, so can they, right?
>>741284171Did they delete digital_copy.exe from your PC?
I have better question - why people mess up Parliament and Comission? Those are two separate bodies. More than than, people behind the project knew that EC will do something like that and have support in Parliament, thus both them and Parliament actually hoped this would happen so they can finally step in.
>>741283545I bet you think you own your John Deere tractor, your Nest thermostat, the heated seats in your BMW, your Fitbit watch, your Samsung smart fridge, or 99% of software you pay for is ever actually "yours". You have no private property if Blackrock has anything to say about it. You soon will not be able to own the computer that you were currently typing this dog shit on. Nvidia would love to rent you a locked down server to mine your data, restrict your access, and upcharge you while becoming wholly dependent on them with no recourse. It's the same playbook that Amazon, Facebook, Google, Apple and every other large "to big to fail and too big to jail" corporation has used. Here's one proposal that looks to have you keep your property that you paid for and you turn your nose right back to spit shining ta corporation's boot
>>741284080An, saarWhen you use the indefinite article befya word starting with a vowel it's an not aYou literally lost
>>741281957All of those will be found and sealed when the time comes. All I care about is forcing those faggots to make the game playable after it stops making shekels for them
>>741284137*wastes mana then yaps and whines like a loser*many such cases
>>741284062So if stopping SKG hinges on the Commission delivering a negative opinion, which they haven't done because they refused to commit to any legislative action one way or the other, what's the point of bringing this up?
>>741283989that's the excuse because on paper the mechanisms that check them are supposed to act with independent interestin practice it's the same kinds of people with similar goals and the people's ability to check them is deliberately weak short of absolute revolution
>>741284171>No? Oh funny how that worksThey won't destroy your copy but you can't use it to play and can only use it to wipe your ass.
>>741284269>A-actually we WANTED the commission to ignore the petition!The cope is catastrophic
>>741284280saar do not redeem the 2longreader u bloody benchod BASTARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>741284236They destroyed it by forcing it to authenticate with a dead server and promise to take legal action if I try to circumvent it.
>>741284272Comparing SKG to right to repair is fucking retarded. You are fucking retarded. The Crew is not farm equipment.
nobody cares about this shit, it's just a vector for retarded wannabe commie shitstains to try and fuck with 'corporations' as they see it
>>741284403It obviously would have been good, but SKG got so much EU MEP support during this whole thing it simply isn't the deciding factor like it used to be.
>>741284369How? If my physical copy is not connected to the internet and I play on a non-internet connected device it's impossible for a company to destroy my purchased copy without restoring to criminal damage.Amazing how this concept is what SKG is simply asking for, if you own a digital copy. Yet you're arguing companies should be allowed to destroy digital copies of games. Servile race.
It's up to the EU parliament to either amend the laws or reject it, but I doubt they'll do anything. These are the same people calling for an enhanced permanent surveillance dragnet on their own citizens.
>>741284171Then dont buy digitalAlso>if I buy a plane it flies>but if I buy a car suddenly will aviation experts tell me it can't fly? Holy moly
>>741284495You huff paint
>>741284295>All I care about is forcing those faggots to make the game playable after it stops making shekels for themYou don't actually care though. Internet slacktivism isn't caring.
>>741279281Based Thor
>>741284539Concession accepted.
>>741284516You don't actually care.
>>741284332What do you mean? The Commission delivers opinions on amendments to laws that they have already proposed. And as far as I understand, the Digital Fairness Act is just something the Commission is working on right now, collecting public feedback on, etc, and it has not yet been formally proposed as a law to the European Parliament, so there are no any amendments yet in the first place.
>>741284235I don't get it. Why can't you just NOT buy GAAS slop?
>>741284530>Then don't buy digitalWhy? Why is the expectation that a digital copy, being able to be bricked ok? You people are so fucking servile, willing to hand over the rights to your own property just because a company said so.
>>741284596Anyone who types this phrase is indicating they are fully seething and mentally raped by whatever discourse just occurred.
>>741284604Such a strong argument you clearly have a lot to say.
>>741284608Honestly at the end of the day if a game is actually good fans generally get private servers going anyway.Slop like concord etc will stay gone forever because it's not good.
>>741284516>If
astroturfing in these threads is so fucking blatant
>>741284092Consoom your meds instead
>>741284696>Honestly at the end of the day if a game is actually good fans generally get private servers going anyway.They get shut down by said company who owns the licence.There was a bunch of private servers running BF2 long after the original EA servers were taken down, yet EA still 10+ years after turning off their servers shut down the private servers.
>>741284696It would still be good for concord to be playable as a learning platform of what not to do.
>>741284604You really need to ask your boss for more talking points bro. You'll never convince anyone skg is dead and pointless like this
>>741284725There's a reason mold man's latest video had 5 sponsor breaks
>>741284725see>>741284113
>>741284605>And as far as I understand, the Digital Fairness Act is just something the Commission is working on right now, collecting public feedback on, etc, and it has not yet been formally proposed as a law to the European ParliamentAnd with Commission and majority MEP support it will pass and then the process to amend SKG into it will begin. You've literally just caught up to what the plan has been for years.
>>741279281EU just keeps making decisions that make people hate them, and for no reason at all. Maybe people who participated will at least dig deeper into this issue to realise just how utterly evil the EU really is and do something about it.Though I doubt it, sadly.
>>741284470Who said anything about repair? These companies can decide to simply shut down your access to these physical or digital products. A heated seat is not farm equipment. A smartwatch is not farm equipment. A smart fridge. Or a smart bassinet. Any of the IOT devices in your home. None of these are farm equipment. None of them are critical, yet. They started by taking small wins and concessions before it's completely normalized. Soon, we will have children that have never known the idea of actually owning something that anything you purchase is subject to be clawed back by the corporation that provided it for you. If they choose to raise prices, tough shit. If they disagree with your behavior guess you should have acted in better accordance with what they believe in. If the corporation machine simply decides that that product is no longer profitable for them, they can take it right away from you. No questions asked, no refunds needed. Who cares if you enjoyed it? Who cares if you rely on it? It's not yours.
>>741283780>the belief that they're gonna amend the digital fairness act to include such a massive rework of intellectual property law is pure delusionexcept for the very fact it's not a reword of intellectual property lawthe fact people like you continue to ignore the indisputable fact that what SKG is asking is something that has already been done by many companies and for thousands of games for decades and that would actually require no changes to any law whatsoever is unbelievable
>>741284790Sure, but you don't actually care.
>>741284772>1 server gets shut down>50 more splinter servers openI've never seen a good game with a proper scene even get fully shut downThe corpos can't keep up with russian servers opening nonstop
>>741284891>except forshh dumb lefty retard, you lost and that's okay, you are used to losingyou're going to keep losing, forever>but some companies already do it!showing that no government intervention is needed, patronize those companies instead like a responsible adult
>>741284725It's probably the maddest we've seen them since the original downfall of PirateSoftware.
>>741284608>I bought digital but I want it to be physical>I bought GAAS slop but I want it to be traditional video gameWhy do you insist on buying one thing and then complain it's not something else?
>>741284958Lol this motherfucker can't read. It's all right. I'm sure the 15 rupee you made today was worth it
>>741284958>no government intervention is neededit was never requested you fucking retardkeep going, keep posting and keep proving you have no idea what SKG is or what it's asking
>>741285062leaky clitty skigger having another meltymany such cases!
>>741285093holy shit retard alert
>>741283353understandable
>>741285093>it was never requested you fucking retard???????????You dumbshit nigger what do you think the EU commission is?
reminder that europoors think this is very important, because they are fucking poor as shit and $60 is a lot of money to them, so when they can't play a shitty dead game, they can really feel the economic impact
>>741284862>Who said anything about repairOh my bad, I assumed you were informed enough to know what the Right to Repair movement is/was and why it's tangentially related based on the items you brought up. My bad, I should have know you were way dumber than I thought.Not reading the rest of your post
>>741285219cry some more skigger trash you lost lmoa
>>741285217Hello shit eater anon I still have the image of (You).
>>741285093Then what was the reason for the GOVERNMENT petitions?
>>741285265>You lostThis thread is literally about how you lost my guy
>>741285035Everything is a service now. More blood for the blood god. You truly believe that any corporation would intentionally make something that gives them less control over their product? And that any publisher that chooses to not include this would be able to compete in a market filled with competition that can squeeze margins at the whim of shareholders? Single-player, primarily offline experiences, still have online requirements in order to function. Not for the benefit of the player, but for the benefit of the publisher and their owners. None of them are content with the money they make now; if they can pull from money from you by making you buy products more frequently, they will.
>>741285287i don't disagree but i still need to post this
>>741284854First of all, the European Parliament can only amend laws before they're passed by themselves. They cannot take an already passed law and initiate an amendment, they can only initiate amendments on pending laws that have been proposed by the European Commission and have not yet been passed. The European Commission has the right of initiative. Clearly when SKG says they want to amend SKG into the DFA, they mean that they want to do that once the Commission proposes the DFA officially.Second, what does>with Commission and majority MEP supporteven mean? Just because the law will be passed in its final state, doesn't mean that they will necessarily want to vote the same on all amendments before that happens.
>no no guys this was the plan all along!>The petition never mattered, uhhhh, it was a Trojan horse to get us support in parliament!>Keep donating and watching my sponsored content only on Ross' Game Dungeon!Absolutely pathetic
>>741285305oh you're here rolling around in the shit and screeching like a castrated slave because you're winning? wow cool enjoy it :)
>>741285417>You're winning?According to the OP, yes!
>>741285093>it was never requested you fucking retardso what was the petition? a hurt feelings report?
>>741285354>Single-player, primarily offline experiences, still have online requirements in order to function.Only spesific mainly slop producing companies.Most indie games don't need internet to play after download
>>741285176>>741285290the point is that the EU commission approval isnt REQUIREDit doesnt mean it wouldn't have helpedit's like a chain of commandyou first ask the first in command, cause if they approve it, then every other layer below has to comply with what the first in command decidedbut if the first in command doesnt give their approval, it doesnt mean they REJECTED it, it means they can't directly tell the other layers below what to do about the issueso you go to the second in command, and so on and onin this case, DFA regulations are around the 3rd "layer of command", but what SKG actually needs is more around the 7th or 8th layer, so even if the EU parliment doesnt approve, even if the DFA regulations aren't changed, there's still a lot to go before claiming it "failed"
>>741285465>we're seeking support from a third party in hopes they will let us hijack their legislation for our unimportant special interest >winningretard alert
>>741285101uh ohhhh :)))>>741285219Weird how those two kind of coalesce though. That's all right, moron. You'll figure it out one day. Look, you're even infighting because you can't fucking read.>>741285265 >>741285305
>>741285359lmaoI use to have one without the watermark but I have so many meme images saved it's like looking for a needle in a haystack so that's the best I can do, sorry lad.
>>741285546lol watWho are you quoting SKG lostDeal with it
>>741285364>they mean that they want to do that once the Commission proposes the DFA officiallyDuh, that's literally what I said.>Just because the law will be passed in its final state, doesn't mean that they will necessarily want to vote the same on all amendments before that happensThe MEPs already said they would. Are you even tracking this process you keep acting like you know?
>>741285523Are those goalposts getting heavy?
>>741285523>Let's just go to the EU commissions manager!Lmao the EU isn't a handbag store, Karen.
>>741281184The highest bidder buys the government.That's a very free market in my book.
>>741285507>mainly slop>Indies don't do itAnd why don't they? What if they started? What's to stop them? There is literally no reason why a profit-seeking company wouldn't want to push this kind of control onto every product. If they're worried about bad faith or poor press coverage, they just have to wait long enough for it to become normalized. This is exactly how we ended up with the internet of today.
>>741285765>Why don't penniless indie devs make their games rely on complicated and expensive always-on web servicesI knew you SKG kids were retarded but you literally see all of this as magic, don't you?
>>741281532>And if enough of them die>you only need to kill 1Well which one is it, nigger?
>>741284494You don't believe that. I simply don't believe that you believe a word you're saying.
>>741285584Didn't you say that the DFA will pass first, then the process to amend it will begin? Unless, you're saying that the European Commission will itself propose a legislative proposal to amend SKG into the DFA, but at that point why "amend" something, they can outright propose a new law for SKG, which they didn't do.>The MEPs already said they would.Said what? I literally told you and the reason why this thread started is that IF the European Commission delivers a negative opinion on an amendment to the DFA that was proposed by the European Parliament (which, indeed, can propose amendments fully by themselves to proposed laws that didn't pass yet), then the support of MEPs isn't enough, also a unanimous support of the Council is required, which is a much more difficult thing to get, at least from my reading of the Article 294 and at least in the second reading.>Are you even tracking this process you keep acting like you know?I don't track SKG, I'm only interested in legislative procedures. Do you even read what I post? You keep replying with something that completely contradicts what I'm saying without providing any basis.Can you write what you imagine the amendment process to be like, from start to finish, or not? You're not even disputing my understanding of the procedures, and adding a bunch of insults into your post for some reason instead.
I want to see parliament push the amendment just to see how the eu commission/governments conveniently try to reject it
>>741284272you are illiterate
>>741281772Yeah, the guy Luigi killed was mistaken in that he can be a villain for many people and still walk around on the street like there weren't motherfuckers wanting to run up on him. We're moving closer to a country where people will shoot their mechanic in the face if he tries to screw them, not farther. For the true villains its fine because they can live behind fences and move around in armored cars but they need reminding that they have to do these things.
>>741285970see>>741284113
>>741285765>And why don't they?Because they don't want to?Many indie dews just really like video games and want to make their own dream game, or just like making games for fun.
>>741286105>killing the bad guys will solve everything>I'm not a bad guy though, I'm the good guy, so nobody will kill me>the good guys always win, and I'm a good guy, so I'm sure to get the resolution I want
>>741286141Jeez, you're that proud of what you wrote, huh?
>All of my opinions are objectively correct and I am also a good person. I know you are evil, because you dared to disagree with me about something, even though you know I am objectively correct, and also a good person.>How could you contradict me? Even though you know I am correct. You must be evil. There is no possible reason for you to contradict me, considering that you know I am correct and also a good person.>Therefore, we have to conclude that you are evil and deliberately interfering with the endeavors of a good and correct person.
Anyone else really fucking hate Ross?
>>741286214You need to read it.
>>741286070The DFA is the act that is going to mandate ID verification across the internet, anon.This would be the biggest monkey paw wish of our lifetime.The EU plays you like a doll and makes you shill for an online censorship act.
>>741286265is that the guy with long hair who makes a living saying dumb shit on camera in front of his computer?
>>741286070It's not that hard.>EU Commission proposes DFA and Parliament passes it into law.>Parliament then amends SKG into DFA and EU Commission blessing isn't needed for this because it's an amendment to existing law and they haven't given a negative opinion. Plus majority of MEPs have already said they will do it, so by the time it actually reaches this stage it's a sure thing.
>>741282390Okay that's fine but I'm the one who gets to decide what it is the people want.
>>741279281This is a good thing, if you buy shitty games from shitty companies you 100% deserve to have your money stolen
>>741286267I did the first time you linked it. It's a nice rumination on subjective good and evil, I guess.
>>741286265I bet you do, you fucking kike. Too bad, it's too late to do anything.
>>741285970NTAThe people behinf SKG are pathetic losers desperate to feel like they belong to ANY group or possess ANY agency. They chose this for that purpose because besides that they're also myopic cunts that don't care about anything but what a 12 year old considers important (fake titties, video games, junk food)If you found yourself captured by this mini cult you need serious help.
>>741284221I'm not buying them, but bad products are crowding out good products in franchises or genres I previously enjoyed. Not everything can be substituted and sometimes there just isn't much competition. I haven't played an FPS in forever because they are all battlepass slop and some indie boomer shooter doom clone just isn't a substitute to wanting to be able to play battlefield again. That's the problem. Without some external force gaming isn't going to go back to previous paradigm.I'm even probably one of the few people who'd be willing to actually pay more up front for a high budget game if it didn't have all those shitty monetisation features with advanced access and other nonsense, but knowing what those companies do they'd probably rise the base price to $100 and still try to fomo you into megaconsoomer edition for $200 anyway.
more game dungeons pls
>>741286346Which is why separatism is a natural part of democracy. Once the value drift becoms too big, you separate from the governing body that oppresses you.
>>741286223>>All of my opinions are objectively correct and I am also a good person. I know you are evil, because you dared to disagree with me about something, even though you know I am objectively correct, and also a good person.>>How could you contradict me? Even though you know I am correct. You must be evil. There is no possible reason for you to contradict me, considering that you know I am correct and also a good person.>>Therefore, we have to conclude that you are evil and deliberately interfering with the endeavors of a good and correct person.This but 100% unironically.
>>741286396>Games now badI don't see you complaining about a lack of antitrust enforcement and pushing to split up EA and the other mega publishersYou thought literally anything else was to blame?Everyone is stupid except for me.
>>741282646Now I can't just walk to the store to buy a new charger for my 10+ yo kindle with all those crappy fantasy novels from TSR in the 80s and 90s on it so I don't see your example as a good one.
>>741282852That's also a fair point. See Russia as an example. The people are so demoralized and dearmed that the state has absolute power over them.
>>741280228> noooo citizens can't use politics to influence the market, only corporations can do that!!
SKG QUICK!!! LIST THE DEAD GAME THAT CAUSED YOU TO CARE ABOUT THIS!!!hard mode: not The Crew(2014)! psycho mode: no googling allowed!
>>741286396Sounds like you are not the majority, and majority is content with how things are and are having fun.Sorry that you got voted out.
>>741286379Your greatest crime isn't lying to me; it's lying to yourself.
>>741286536Umm, umm...The cr-Fuck!
Like seriously, Ross is a complete retard and at this point actively malicious. I genuinely hate everything about him, I hope the dude gets deported from his shit hole country and lives on the streets only to get stabbed by some sort of nigger.
>>741280052>noooo don't regulate the corpos
>>741286536Darkspore as a wee lad. I didn't get to play it for whatever reason (I think it might've been my parents being pissy about it), and when I finally got around to playing it, it was gone.
AND YOUUUUYOUR SEX IS ON FIRE AND YOUUUUYOUR SEX IS ON FIRE
>>741280554Democracy is a failed system
>>741286536Uhhhh... Marathon had good scores I think?Highguard! That's also video game right?
>>741286637>t. chet
>>741286639Man, everything is binary with you retards, it's either do or don't, there's no betweenOf course corporation should be regulated but SKG ain't it, chief
>>741286536I know it's a big meme, but live service games are just the foothold in order get the law changed. Ideally once this is over, live service games will be too unprofitable and will die out as a whole. If preserving some previous slop is the price for devs not being able to destroy games, then it's worth it.
>>741281402>>741283127the ceo was a willing puppet making millions, fuck him
>>741286536>Mobile Suit Gundam Online>SD Gundam Online>Gundam EvolutionUnfortunately due to how laws work even if SKG were to pass, Scamco has no reason to bring back those games as they would be after law implementation and those games were shutdown ages ago.
>>741286706>but SKG ain't it, chiefyeah nice try you fucking bootlicker
>>741286696Just imagine him getting kicked out onto the streets and then some nigger starts stabbing him over and over again. It's deserved for all the hell he's put us through with SKG.
>>741286706>ain't itZoomer golem slave speak.
>>741286536I never played anthem but thought idea of flying around like Ironman was cool
>>741282836It's honestly incredible how Euros have so little self-agency that the EU becoming a literal nanny state is a dream come true for them. Literal manchildren.
>>741286481>I don't see you complaining about a lack of antitrust enforcement and pushing to split up EA and the other mega publishersI mean, you haven't asked, but I would be in fact in favour of this, yes.>>741286575Majority of people or majority of money? I can't spend negative dollars or spend them on something that doesn't exist.
>>741286735no, but if skg passes and there's no attempt to revive these by the company only for them to slap down fan projects like the Gundam Evolution private server would probably lose them a LOT of favor with anyone who still buys blamco shit
>>741286751>>741286765SKG sending their brightest I seeNo wonder the court told him to fuck off, lmao
>>741286861>the courtZoomer golems are so fucking braindead it's amazing they even reached adulthood.
If consumers actually wanted this, they'd buy games on GoG and not on Steam.
>>741286671fuck...i fucking kneel i just....ffffuck....
>>741286996Steam is safe as long as Gabe is aliveAfter that I don't give a fuck because I'll probably die before he does
>>741286843as if the people playing their slop give a shit
>>741283532At least the quality of the shilling makes them stand out, like you.
>>741281389"Exercise free will" is not a pragmatic counter to billion dollar industries putting the brightest minds of our generation towards the surveillance and exploitation of human psychology. This fact is born out in reality."Free will" is rooted in psychology, and you can game psychology. If we have two fatsos living in a house full of convenient cookie jars, your fat man being told to exercise free will stay fat, and my fat man that I hide the cookie jars from will become healthy. That's reality.
>>741286791>I can't spend negative dollarsNo one can. The more people like something the more they are going to spend on it.
>>741286843Unfortunately majority of Gundam fans are not even human, they'd still buy their shit even if meant their human rights were to be violated.
>>741286671THERE GOES MY HEROWATCH HIM AS HE GNOMES
>>741285946>complicated and expensive servicesIf a company bundles that up into a single line of code and it means you can turn off your product at any given point in time in order to extract more revenue from somebody, why wouldn't you?Also recall that Indeed does not necessarily mean penniless developer anymore. The "independent space" has huge market potential>>741286204Oh, goodness of their heart got it. Yeah, I'm sure every single developer in the future for games that I will want to play will be done by passionate individuals looking to just share something that they've created. In no way shape or form could a corporation possibly get their grubby hands on it and try to extract value from me.You're naive to believe that there hasn't already been attempts at market penetration for this. E33 (indie game of the year) has always online. >>741286084No u
Ross is a jew and a grifter and needs to be held accountable.
>>741279281of course because why would something good happen this shithole World
there's no way console manufacturers would let skg pass
>>741281184What can be more free market than using your funds to buy power?
>>741279616It was the EU parliament that was going all in, and still is, the EU commission has always been shit.
>>741286576A hit dog hollers.
>>741287182Why do you insist only buying from corporations?
>>741280126Good, next we need them to mandate that cellphones have memory card slots next. That all the manufacturers got together and decided to unilaterally remove them to sell cloud storage services in absurd.
>>741287281Because it's the only way he can stay as the perpetual victim.
>>741287315I said they're excluded, what's good about it?
>>741280343Maybe a food analogy would suit your fat ass>order burger>midway through eating it they announce burger 2>take the burger from your hands and incinerate it in front of you>you have to pay full price again if you want a burger, but it's slightly worse than the one you were eating
>>741284027Oh fuck off you disingenuous cuck. Yes, that's what SKG was fighting for. You to "own the IP" of Mario because you bought a copy of a game. Jump off a cliff if you'd fight against consumers for a laugh.
>>741287146>The more people like something the more they are going to spend on it.I mean, drugs and gambling are regulated for a reason.Anyway, so how do you think I'm supposed to promote the sort of games I like if they don't make them, and discourage the games I don't if I can't spend negative dollars?
>>741287353How odd, I thought I was responding to the same post you responded to.Why are those two models excluded, anyway?
>>741287362should have eaten it faster then
>>741287114Being fat doesn't even have to be part of it. Corporations are large enough in order to gain the system such that you don't have a choice. Too poor to afford anything but the most lockdown, surveillance heavy products? Part of a niche enough market that no one will hear you bitch? As this practice been abused for decades before such that it's become completely normalized?It's how we ended up with consonant heavy Amazon dropshipping garbage becoming the de facto furniture in our homes. It's how we replaced affordable, locally owned taxi services with underpaid contractors from Uber at x2 the cost.
>>741281221It's even worse, 4chan is half bots, and a quarter people who are so contrarian they'd hang themselves just to spite you. People who would legitimately rather everyone work as slaves if it meant other people were as unhappy as they were.
>>741287265uuuUUUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
>>741287182>If a company bundles that up into a single line of code You're retarded, anon.You have no idea how any of this works.
>>741284530>Then dont buy digitalYou literally don't have a choice when even consoles merely provide you with a code to download your purchased game, yes, even the plastic toy you bought in a store, from a server in Guam.
>>741287460>Why are those two models excludedThey're not specifically, all phones that retain 80% battery capacity after 1000 cycles (or something like that, possibly with some additional requirements) are excluded from this rule that requires user-replaceable batteries. You can search it up
>>741286105I work a state government job and had a gun pulled on me for ripping off some business owner. I just happened to work in the same building as the Department of Finance and they saw my badge. I'm IT.
>>741287404>I mean, drugs and gambling are regulated for a reason.They really shouldn't be
There are so many bootlickers who want to own nothing and be happy even on this siteWhen the fuck did everything go so wrong
>>741281221There's no corporate glazing. I just don't believe that players should be able to host their own servers if the developer/publisher doesn't want you to do that, regardless of who the developer/publisher is.
>>741280228I like how all the retards just focus on the "don't vote with your wallet" part instead of just not buying shitty games from shitty companies
>>741287404>there are billions on video games>can't find one he likesSounds you just don't like videogames
>>741287562>>741287562That's almost 3 years of daily charging. Not as good as changeable batteries, but a decent extension to the life of cellphones.
>>741280571Pirate Software was right all along.>I hope that your initiative gets everything that you asked for, but nothing you wanted
>>741287616There are the real dumb golems, but people here will unironically become a slave just to be contrarian and make everyone else slaves if they could. It's pure crabs in bucket misery and the world would be a better place if they just killed themselves.
>>741287281Because that's all business is now. Go ahead and look up your local pest control company or HVAC service or landscaping. Stop by your local auto repair shop. Visit a local bookstore. Take a look at the publishers for some of your favorite games. Hell, even your utilities like water and power are being subsidized to massive corporations like BlackRock. You're naive to believe that every product or service that you consume cannot or will not be owned by some corporation. That small makers and producers will endure extremely hostile market conditions to simply not sell out. If a massive corporation could sell a similar experience to what's currently being offered at a quarter of the price in order to lock in customers to my DRM surveillance, heavy product that I can shut off at any time, they would and do. Even if that means operating at a loss until their competitors go belly up.
You digital cucks are such losers, not like me, the console king!>puts pressed disc with press-only DRM sectors into console that requires a walled-garden OSI'm such a rebel!
>>741281184>not real capitalismLol retard
>>741279281>private meeting with the commissionirrelevant
>>741287959Pfft, he still uses discs, lmaoReal physical chads buy games that come on cards that can be conveniently downloaded wherever you go as long as there's wi-fi to communicate with the authentication servers, I love technology!
>>741287501I very much do know how this works. Authentication services, update management, DRM, anti-cheat, steam achievemens, are all just a singleton away. Companies that sell software to other companies want to make installation as simple as possible. I've used and relied on Amazon's SDK for years now. I have PCI auditors demanding that I inject their budy's scanning libraries to pass audits. Sure, it might be a slight hyperbole to say it's a single line sometimes, but for the most part, it's as painless as possible. They are not interested in having you refactor your code and manage all of this on your own. They want you to purchase their product and rely on them.Making the claim that it is wildly complex for anyone but the largest of developers shows YOU don't understand. You don't even need this complicated process for always online. Rolling your own would be trivial and if it were cracked, you could simply just cite DMCA and put that person in jail.
>>741279281>have legal obligation that protects the corporate interest and IPs >have NO legal obligation when it comes to consumer rights and purchased products/licensemakes really wonder and think
>>741279324They're coping now
>>741287616you can make your own pie chart with the following groups>(you) farming shitposters>actual paid shills>people baiting to bump the threads >people who don't like video games and hate those who do>misanthropic retards who want as many people to suffer as possible>people who claim to be anarchists but would be killed and eaten day 1I'm inclined to believe the first category is the overwhelming majority, like 80-85%.
>>741283418It's a complete nonsense talking point but you have to understand that these people are gachafag SEAniggers who don't have a single clue about how politics actually works. It's like arguing with a down's syndrome child.
>>741287734Anyone with half a brain knows that would've been the result though.
>>741288181Anon the fact that you think an implementation on your end of a single line to an API is the same as actually doing all the shit the API does is going to make me laugh all day.
>>741279281If a game only works online like gacha or gaas then it's worthless slop that you won't miss if it's gone. It's cool that some companies make offline versions of them but honestly it's too much work to save a dying turd.
My best bet is we create a official donation pool for our own lobbying group. Goal should be like 100 million or more. Hire the best lawyers and push our SKG narrative further.
>>741281221What's any of that have to do with the fact that the EU wiped their ass with your citizen's initiative
>>741288364Also don't make the normies forget that the big corpo game companies all made an effort to shut this down.
>>741288332What difference does it make what the black box does? The argument was that indie developers would never implement this due to its complexity. Because of how software libraries and distribution works, I make the argument that there is no complexity for the developer.Either refute that or fuck off.
>>741288364Is this like a cringy shill false flag larp?
Epic xwitter post but Corponiggers won't get away with this. You VILL provide an playable offlien status of every game after it's being sunsetted.You VILL provide all DLC purchased for each individual account.You VILL give money back if you take away a license.You VILL remove all DRM that hinders me from playing it.
The derugaltive agenda is here
>>741287649Go read Enshitification
>>741288582>What difference does it make what the black box does?kind of matters for the cost my guy>The argument was that indie developers would never implement this due to its complexitycomplexity and COSTIndie devs don't have the manpower for support, they don't have the money to pay for that kind of service, you're nuts.
>>741288676depends corpo bootlicking nigger... is your lobyying group that met with the EU comission in private without inviting SKG members a false flag too?
>>741287790It must be hard living in whatever world you live in.
>>741288703Cool but I own it sooooo
>>741287790which corporation are indies part of?
>>741288880if I give you money I decide what happens not the other way around lil cuck
>>741288806>kind of matters for the cost my guyHow about free?>Indie devs don't have the manpower for supportWhat support? What complexity? Maintaining package versions and implementing no more than 10 lines to get to:EOS_AntiCheatClient_BeginSession(antiCheatClientHandle, &beginSessionOptions);
>>741289148>servers running auth 24/7 are free!>support? what support?lmao
>>741289004I own it sorry :)
>>741288703>buying games with DRMyou are cocksucking corposlave sheep and you will never be anything else.
>>741289257Steam is a DRM platform retardo
>>741289194>freeyea free: https://www.easy.ac/services>supportThe fuck kind of support am I offering if Anti-Cheat servers go down?
>>741289380yeah, and?
>>741289421>free EAC as a DRM solutionjesus christ it's literally this meme
>>741289491if you need explanation for this you might aswell kill yourself
>>741289534nah. Keep on sucking gabens cock tho :)
>>741289559>I'm so jaded I don't buy anything with DRM not even use DRM platforms that provide gameswhy are even replying low IQ retardYou and and every single Corponigger VILL give me my game, in a fully DRM free state, after it's being sunsetted.
StopKillingGames is Russian propaganda meant to divide our people.
>>741289501Works for most. Are you saying it's impossible to implement DMCA without buying and maintaining your own servers? lol
>>741289654why should I buy DRM games when alternatives exists?
>>741289749I don't give a fuck what you do. You still don't get the point retard. Have another (You) out of pity. Hiding like a dog on platform that has no DRM, while letting the fact slide that you have no consumer rights is not an option.
>>741289749>every DRM game has and will always have a non-DRM equivalent >there will always be a market for non-DRM software>violation of consumer rights is ok as long as it doesn't happen to me
>>741289939>violation of consumer rights is ok as long as it doesn't happen to methis tbqhI stopped caring about normies when they wanted to force the vax on me.No thinking person bought any video game in the past 5 to 10 years. It is dead. All current gayms are shit.You should not buy it, at all, because they are bad. Don't buy a bad product.
>>741279281>let corporations scam people for a decade>"punish them">"UM NO ITS TOO LATE TO REWORK EVERYTHING XDDD"its like saying if you raped a child 20 years ago it would be late to punish you now because she's legal now
>>741289212nobody cares, you got my money
>>741290254Eventually, they'll find their way to force you. They want to assume total control. >Don't buy itWhat happens when the only option is to buy nothing? What makes you so sure you'll always have an option?
>>741290721And I have my product :)
