We must sadly accept that classic FE is dead and gone. Social sim and chores are like crack to normies, and i expect crafting will also be in the game. I have no doubt this absolute slop will sell like crazy.Engage tried to bring a focus back to the strategy game aspect of classic FE, but leaned too heavily into buildtism and super moves. Ever since fates, every game (excluding the remake) has doubled down on retarded time wasting hubs and if this game succeeds we will never be rid of that cancer, worse we may be subjected to world maps in every new fire emblem.
>>741300128Generals belong on/vg/
>>741300128>posts the game that killed classic emblem
>>741300128post more goldmary or stfu
I dont have any goldmary but she is in the background of this image>>741301347
>>741300573That's Goldmary, not Jade.
>Classic FE threadSo, are you actually supposed to put Wolf and Sedgar on General? It's really alarming how low their speed values are.
>>741301878Just for a few levels to buffer out their defense until its are around like 16 or 17ish. Then their class doesnt really matter. General also helps them with that one map with the infnite bowcavs
>>741300128I'm playing my very first Fire Emblem game right now (Awakening) and it's fun.
>>741300128Classic Fire Emblem is kino anime inspiration like Arslan Senki or Legend of the Galactic Heroes, not the modern escapist dogshit in Engage that only ever caters to lonesome porn addicts.Good Fire Emblem concerns itself with portraying a war epic.
>>741303106He was talking about gameplay, Einstein.
>>741303106I agree with you. Even games like 3H that are supposed to be on the serious side feel shallow to me. I think game devs from the late '90s had something that's missing these days. New games feels too polished and safe.t. lonesome porn addict
>>741303645Its like that one nip cynic said, writers from his generation experienced life in all its stripes as a struggle, their fathers were soldiers and they grew up in times of revolutions etc. Nu writers grew up in escapism, all they know is the stories they experienced and they just try to imitate it. Going to school to be a writer rather than being a writer because you've experienced so many interesting things in your life is crazy.The fantasy genre of books and anime being subsumed by isekai SLOP and game mechanics is a microcosm of this imitation problem.
So why other than the shitty Dark Deity series, don't we get more FE clones?This is why I don't think Indies are good. They are stagnated in the farming crafting roguelike deck building or pixel metroidvania slop formulas.
>>741304039Theres a few fe-likes. Banner of the maid, succubus senki, heelfall
>>741304085And that game was already a simplified imitation of the previous games made with handheld gamers in mind.
>>741304085mmmyep, based
>>741304085>the otaku who ruined the seriesWho exactly is this referring to, I wonder? The burgers being pandered to from FE7-10? 3DSbabs? 3H-onlies? Is he even talking about Engage fans?
>>741304372Remember to feed your lyn right
>>741304915All of the above.
>>741304940You mean rig her level ups?
>>741304940Assuming robe and ring and draco shield+2 hp+3 str+2 skil+1 speed-1 lck+1 defense+1 resVERDICT: savescummed lyn
>>741305103I'm not too skeptical about it, honestly. +3 STR in 13 levels with 40% growth is not that farfetched.
Was FE every a good strategy game?im playing Awakening on Hard right now and so far its really piss easy Its not really a game about about positioning your unit at a right spot so that you threaten a lot of enemies or baiting in weak enemies or hidding in bushes or forts its just a stat gameBecause i only used a few units like Vaike and Sumia they are so overleved they double everything and do insane dmg while also being able to take a lot of hits and now i have 6 or 8 uber gods on my side that are basically invincible and can do whateverI dont even really thing a lot anymore i just pair up Frederick with Sumia for the extra defens or speed depending on whos better for enemy turn and let them kill eveythingAre the other games better about the actual strategy part?I played 6 and 7 and 3 houses and they are fun but especially3 houses was just more like Awakening and 7 was even easier than Awakening
>>741305681>Was FE every a good strategy game?>im playing AwakeningLamaoPlay conquest
>>741305906its fun honestly The reclassing and child breeding makes for a fun meta game to breed the perfect child soldier but its also completly broken and piss easy as a result
>>741305681Some of the old game had low stat caps and systems like fatigue to prevent using only a few units to roll on the entire game (with more or less success). Thracia776 is really hard when playing blind. Pair-up is really strong in general but it's a 3DS era feature, try conquest if you want a harder awakening.
>>741305681>Awakening Hard(lol. Try Lunatic. Seriously, try to get to even just chapter 6 on Lunatic and then report back.
>>741306470i did actually play a bit of lunatic and managed to get to chapter 6 or so but i had to retry every map a couple of timesI played on hard first to get famialr with the game again and then go back to lunatic afterwardsFrom what i played Lunatic wasnt that hard you just had to use Frederick a lot moreHe is basically my main character since hes the only one that doesnt die so fast and can take a few hits
>>741306002The children are not the issue with awakening. It's an unbalanced mess for other reasons.
>>741300128Engage looked like puke to me, are you telling me it has actually good gameplay? I may get it if so.
>>741305681Unfortunately you've already discovered the secret tactic of just investing into a small amount of super units to carry through the game. This completely breaks every FE apart (yes even Conquest)
>>741306787The game itself looks really good compared to 3H, very clean and polished UI. Very well done models and backgrounds. A lot of people here will tell you the gameplay is top notch, and I agree with them. The game gives you a lot of powerful tools that are fun to mix and match and play around with, and the hardest difficulty is tuned in such a way that it almost always presents a good challenge. The DLC campaign has some of the hardest FE maps I've ever cleared.
>>741307154Maybe I'll pick it up if I can find a cheap pre owned copy somewhere.
>>741305681Awakening is one of the least strategic games in the series with very little map variety. Its basically SRW. And yes, low manning breaks the challenge of most fire emblems before fates changed the EXP formula. Did you play 6 and 7 on hard mode? Hector hard mode specifically for 7
>>741306787Its good but the game takes a long time to play just because of how the turns work. Anyways if you do pick it up, you should know that promoting wont change the exp formula so promote early as possible in this game
>>741308313no played them for curiosity to see what the older games where like and moved on
>>741309043You'd think you'd figure out after the first GBA game that you should be playing on hard lol
>>741307324In my humble opinion, the game deserves sales for being as good as it is, but I will say that it does emulate very well, and it has an extremely active modding community. I also forgot to mention it has really good combat animations, almost GBA tier. They made a really good combat system (that shines in the arena) where it reacts a lot to what's actually happening. Promoted classes will do things like bat an arrow out of the air instead of dodging it.
>>741300128Engage actually did the opposite of buildtism. There were only two skill slots and Bond level. Everything else was easily swappable. It's part of why the game was so tightly balanced. Making a broken character is pretty much impossible.
>>741309827You can, it's just that they put all the broken stuff on the Emblem rings instead.
>>741309914Yeah, the game is basically broken and bland at the same time>What's that, champ? Need daddy IS to do your builds for you? :)
>>741309827>Making a broken character is pretty much impossible.Lyn on a mage is impossible?
>>741309914You can literally swap the ring out at any point. I wouldn't really consider it a "build" in a classical sense. There is no commitment to it, so it's really just allocating your resources.>>741310089Builds have always been shit in FE because the broken stuff is always really damn obvious. Putting tight restrictions on it is how you get balanced gameplay and avoid bullshit like Nosferatu Robin and wyvern spam in 3H.The biggest problem is that there isn't a new game+ that let's you just go crazy with broken shit (two ring slots, extra skill slots, etc).>>741310403The game is balanced around that shit. Same with abusing multiple dance Byleth, Lucina Monks, Miciah warps, Icy veins every single turn.
>classic FE>posts Engayge
>>741309827They did a good job of making it so that there's room for build variety, but also such that the building part doesn't take over the whole game, it's just basic set-it-and-forget-it stuff.
>>741310607>The game is balanced around that shit.No it ain't mang. Bonded shield completely punctures Engage's butthole; the game has no answer for it.
>>741310607This idea that Engage is somehow an especially balanced Fire Emblem or that it's at all lacking in broken shit is quite frankly ridiculous - it's deserving of ridicule. One of the most braindead combos in the game is stupidly easy to pull off and works in every map that it's available in (I don't even need to name it, you know what I'm talking about).The only difference is that Engage is just plain boring about it.
>engage is just plain boring about it unlike real fire emblem>equips javelin on paladin and clicks end turn>ahhhhhh. kino
>>741310918At least your paladin isn't literally immune to damage
>>741310918Ah, the boilerplate Engagefag response - "Fire Emblem is GBAFE." How you know you touched a nerve.
>>741310918Knives and flying mages are ten times more broken as 8 move javcavs
>>741311032ENTER
>>741310918>equips javelin on paladin and clicks end turn>OH FUCK ARE THOSE BACKUP UNITS? AIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>741300128>classic FEAgreedFire emblem 8 ironman relay chapter 19, last hope. Good luck to the next iron-kunhttps://files.catbox.moe/exzp8b
Just to let you know that I hide weeb cringe like this without reading a single word.
>series becomes more popular in America than Japan>adds cringe hentai fetish characters to appeal to ironic weebs
>>741311167Knives are legit not good past like the early-mid game
>>741311517Boss there ain't nothing ironic about my attraction to Camilla.
>>741310918You mean>clicks pair up on my royal unit with his snowflake 1-2 prf and click end turn
>>741300128Member when FE didn't hold your hand, and the victory was made sweeter because of it? I member.
>>741304085Blazing Blade is pure otaku pandering between Lyn slobbering over your self-insert character and EPIC FUNNY ANIME HIJINKS with Serra and Erk
>>741310809>works in every map that it's available inStill waiting for your explanation on how to beat Entrap priests with it. What do you do when the engage meter runs out?
>>741311769>FE7 was otaku pandering garbage to JP Kagafags>Fateswakening was otaku pandering garbage to GBAfags>Engage was otaku pandering garbage to 3DSfagsThe otakuening will continue until morale improves.
I love my wife, Tiki
>>741311847The single Entrap Priest in 20? I warp in and kill him. I feel like you're admitting defeat here, honestly.
>>741312141>I warp in and kill himThat's not using your 'braindead combo that works every time'. There's also an entrap priest in 25.
>>741311742You never played these games on release.
>>741312271Don't be an idiot lol
>>741311742Yeah, I remember when FE didn't give you a bunch of gay free numbers to make it feel more like an RPG, so you actually had to think about positioning.
>>741312271Horrific argument
>>741312414Are you talking to yourself? So you 'warp in and kill him' and then get absolutely raped on the enemy phase by everything surrounding him?
>>741311769>>741311736>>741310918And the award for most disingenuous arguments in the thread goes to:
Speaking of series that have changed things up and shifted focus in gameplay mechanics due to being more mainstream...which franchise would you say has divided it's fanbase more Fire Emblem, Zelda or Monster Hunter?
>>741312460>It works 100% of the time except every time it doesn'tI agree, absolutely horrific argument from this retard.
>>741312630Monhun 100%
>>741312703Even if there weren't practically a million ways to easily dispatch this singular enemy, the strategy would still be gamebreaking for what it does to the other 99% of the game when you have it.
>>741311260kek
You want a pat on the back for understanding how Bonded Shield works to the point you're pretending it does things it doesn't. Just fucking stop. Vantage breaks the game just as much as BS does, and doesn't require a second unit.
>>741312527I'm glad you find Engage so deeply cerebral, but it's overall not a difficult game to trivialize, and is a little lacking in depth and variety. I still think it's a fun enough game for the purchase price, but in the final, I have to say it mishandled many of its ideas and is overrated by people like you who I guess are intimidated by Entrap Priests.
>>741312835>the other 99% of the gameYou don't have infinite engage meter you fucking disingenuous cunt. Literally show me all these 99% cases where using it actually makes a meaningful difference. Using Parthia is unironically a better use of Lucina's Engage time, because better units don't need cowardly tactics like BS.
>>741313095>lacking in varietySomeone please just kill this stupid faggot already
>>741313153That one spread you real good, huh? Yeah, it's fucking boring. There's nothing to do in the game once you've explored each emblem's pre-built kit, you dunce.
>>741313139>You don't have infinite engage meterGood thing the maps are littered with engage refresh tiles and multiple forms of dancing exist. I honestly feel stupid even engaging with this nonsense.
>intimidatedNo, I just don't pretend that bonded shield will somehow dispatch him for me with its magical 100% uptime. Nice lack of argument, btw. Have fun getting raped by his entourage.
i play FE for hot bitches who want my dick, yes i saved your franchise
>>741312958>Vantage breaks the game just as much as BS doesIt factually does not.
vantage and bonded shield are both much less broken than the draconic time crystal
If you fags didn't have third world PCs, we could do an Engage relay and try to see just how broken BS really is.
>>741313294dumb etienigger
Variety is when you build Vantage/LaD Ophelia for the umpteen millionth time.
>>741311517>americans like sexy "hentai" womenlol lmao
>Guy playing with Japanese text>Has the worst takes on literally every game in the franchise
>>741313502Dude theres a relay up right now and no one has touched it for months
>>741300128>We must sadly accept that classic FE is dead and gone. Social sim and chores are like crack to normies, and I expect crafting will also be in the game.Already accepted that since 2012 or 2019.Meanwhile Final Fantasy on the other hand…
>>741301761goldmilky has the stats of a general
>>741313615Final Fantasy was already shit for decades
>>741313502I really want to see a counter for how much these fags actually use BS during their runs.
does anyone have that post where the anon was gonna S rank Maribelle but he beat that point of no return mission and got cucked by Chrom
>>741300573It’s so funny how almost every Pokèmon thread there’s a ritual shitter always trying to direct them to their respective board but never for Fire Emblem.
>>741304039we do but they all suck; there's like 500 SRPG studio FE clones available, most only in japanese.
they're gonna have to rerelease the 3DS and DS titles sometime in the future. cartridges don't last forever. Also what's the point of Kris in NMotE?
>>741313410It does, especially in a game like Engage where it's really easy to hit 100% crit.
>>741313294Why are you playing in Chinese
>>741313741People aren't really keen on playing the RPG Maker games of Fire Emblem. Most of them are default asset using dogshit.
>741296889just how huge is the world of fodlan compared to other FE titles? this is even bigger than Awakening at this point. you think we get a third Fodlan game going east or northward? It feels like there is much to build in this world.
>>741313826>Why aren't you playing with Treehouse taint?Really mysterious anon, truly baffling. The experts will pore over this case for decades.
>>741303106Wish we got Classic Phantasy Star Threads every now and then. There was even a thread about the Earthbound Beginnings SNES Romhack.
>>741304221>look these up>all porn games
>>741313660I use it every turn (4 of them). Map is usually 50-70% dead by the time it's run out, or I'm closing in on the boss.I frankly don't know why people are still skeptical of it. I figure it must be people who have never tried it, like the Parthiafag.A great example is Ch. 19. You can set it up on Turn 1, right in the thick of the map, if you clear out one of the Royal Knight blockade with the fire cannon and a flier or something.Then you just hunker down on a miasma tile and the enemies die on you like useless idiots. It's a compact map so you can imagine how much 4 turns of this much assrape brings upon it.
>>741313947But why are you playing in a language you can't read?>>741313925I'd take a third game set far to the east. Have FE go all in on central and east asian inspired settings.
>>741304372The true OP pic of this thread
>>741314085Banner of the Maid isn't porn, it just has hot girls with their cleavage out.
Sacred StonesLunatic Mode, route split removed - you choose who goes with who and then play through both, certain balance changes.https://www.dropbox.com/transfer/AAAAABBWu_4Wb4lpyMKvMgun7g0mEED3tH3eycgKafdN1b-uvsXUap8Let me know if you have any problems.
>>741314118>I figure it must be people who have never tried itIt's most certainly this. They imagine it must have some Achilles heel because it would shatter the illusion that the game is an expertly balanced masterpiece.
>>741313852well people get upset when I recommend them similar strategy games that aren't direct FE clones. IS has a great balance team and knows what works in FE and how to balance a maddening map. The indie devs do not so non-clones are the only things that match the fun. Indie devs need to drop the RNG levels if they want any chance of matching IS's team.
>>741310685Classic FE is 1990s and 2000s2010s and 2020s are in a league of their own
>>741314119>why are you playing in a language you can't read?I'm not. Nice cope deflection, btw. I see what you're doing. You lost. Bonded shield does not break the game as much as you pretend.
You can spam your shit all you want, I'm not playing with you.
>>741314287>I see what you're doing. You lost. Bonded shield does not break the game as much as you pretend.I'm not whoever you think I am. My first reply to you ITT was asking why you were playing in a language you can't read. You can just skip the dialogue if you want.
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>>741311742Total Thracia Victory!
>look up FE art on my twtter feedhow come the algorithm gives me users I don't follow that post FE art?
>>741311769>Lyn slobbering over your self-insert characterMark is not the same as Kris, Robin, Corrin, Byleth and Alear.
>>741314283>larping as a samurai now
>>741314118>>741314262FX6 is pretty balanced even with all the tools because IS gave you preset stats and weapons. Nova gets a purpose because you can't +4/5 engraved bolganone rape everything.
>>741300128I just want a fates-esque game at this point. It doesn't even have to be strictly like a pre-awakening thing but 3H burned me the fuck out on tedious grindslop. Just let me get to the maps with only a small amount of preparation in between.
>>741314645>>741314558>>741314469>>741314283The most pretentious thing about oldfags is that they pretend their post-Kaga games aren't nu-Emblem and that emulating a fan patch 30 years late counts as "classic" FE, but why am I even saying this, who cares?
Is Fire Emblem still your favorite franchise despite Awakening, Fates, TH and Engage /v/?
>>741314701this is a lorefag larper series now
>>741314781>and that emulating a fan patch 30 years late counts as "classic" FEAre you stupid? Playing an old game in 2026 doesn't suddenly make it a 2026 game.
>>741314783It's my favorite because of all these games.
>>741292325I’m fine with Unicorn Overlord being a one and done, at least it has more dignity than Fire Emblem.
>>741314781>that emulating a fan patch 30 years late counts as "classic" FEAre the games still getting updates or why would that matter? lol
>>741314783Those are my favorites. I started with Awakening because Marth was my favorite in Melee and Brawl. I am the normalfag.
>>741314783It's never been my favorite franchise. My favorite SRPG franchise maybe but not overall.
>>741314783The only one of those I actively dislike is Three Houses. If every game from now on isn't a Three Houses clone, I'll still like the series, but FW isn't making me hopeful.
>>741313654Still more popular than your niche TRPG generic anime franchise.No Fire Emblem game will ever be as impactful as Final Fantasy 7.
>>741314860>shittier gameplay all around>"yeah but...the dignity though!"Also UO threads are bar for bar replicas of Awakening threads, not classic FE. 99% waifu posts 1% actual discussion.
>>741314989>Still more popularOkay? Are you a shareholder or something?
>>741314990>>shittier gameplay all around>>"yeah but...the dignity though!"that's what dignity posters are all about. they can't handle the fact that nu-emblem brought in otaku pandering and good gameplay at the same time.
>>741314860>UO's story and characters get praised for being exactly like le dignified classic fe>literally 0 story and character discussion and game is immediately forgotten by anyone that isnt ritualposting waifutardsmakes you think
>>741314907What is your favorite anon
>>741314118>I figure it must be people who have never tried itThe problem is that you have people like this retard who act like 100% completely unironically the only thing you do in the game after you get Bonded Shield is use it every turn and it solves the game for you. Reality is not like that. For one thing, these aren't Awakening maps where you get bum rushed by 40 enemies on the first 3 turns. Engage maps actually have deliberate and thoughtful enemy formations, and there are actually very rarely cases where you need to take on a high number of enemy phase enemies at once. Sure, it's great for those cases where you do that, but that is not the entire game post-chapter 11. Parthia is also a very useful tool, and it's so strong that it has very low STR requirements for hitting enemy griffin OHKOs.
>>741314140Here's some of the features.>Route split distribution>Myrrh joins on Ephraim chapter 9 with a Sonic Sword, it'll be one of three weapons she'll be able to use>Amelia joins with a Wing Spear
>>741315370>these aren't Awakening maps where you get bum rushed by 40 enemies on the first 3 turnsMany of the maps are like that and even if they aren't all immediately aggro'd you can just push as far forward as you want since there's zero risk of death.
>>741315370>this retardYou realize you're replying to me, right?Bonded Shield gets called out so frequently because it's EGREGIOUSLY broken, yet ask an Engagefag if there is anything broken in their game, and they downplay and deny it. It comes across as wilful ignorance after 3 years of this.No, Engage is not Awakening, thank fucking God. But it has some *severe* design weaknesses and to esteem it so highly over every other game, to glaze its perfect balance, to say that it radically reinvented Fire Emblem gameplay and addressed its usual shortcomings - when in fact it's more of the same old bullshit, forma de Sailor Moon powerup - comes across as very dumb.
>>741315460>Myrrh joins on Ephraim chapter 9 with a Sonic Sword, it'll be one of three weapons she'll be able to use>Amelia joins with a Wing SpearI hate romhackers so fucking much, it's unreal.
>>741315370>after you get Bonded Shield is use it every turn and it solves the game for you.this was my first run of engage ever. IS gave you bonded shield+ivy&lyn on the same turn after stripping you of every other emblem. it's impossible to miss if you've played these games before. yes, you can easily break the game in many other ways, but this one is excellent.
next FE game should take place at the sea with an ancient evil lurking beneath the frigid waters.
>>741315460Small update because I saw something I didn't like.https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ippp7rbocncv7mt28yh06/Lunatic-Mode.ups?rlkey=nz0y4uzwlx1l7abln1b69ajnu&st=vn1k3pe3&dl=0This link should also be lasting unlike the other one.>>741315843Problem? Myrrh is more or less just there to help pad out Ephraim's lineup because Eirika gets more otherwise. She's not getting her Dragonstone that early so I had to create a compromise. Sonic Sword is there, but she more uses it for the magical ability than using it as an actual sword. As such, she also gets no sword ranks.Amelia was entirely reworked so it's more just a nod to both her old trainee version as well as Caeda more than anything. She also sort of needs something to help her in this mode or she's just not getting any levels.
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>>741315856Those turn counts are awful for “spamming” a broken strategy, what’s this suppose to prove?
>>741316174That was my first, blind, vanilla run and I don't care about LTC; the point was that as a centralizing strategy, it beats the game on every map.
>>741316174Post yours lil bro
>>741315738The only time I remember spamming that was on chapter 23 when the enemy density is just too high. You have enough natural choke points and OP as fuck staves that you dont need bonded shield spam in a normal maddening run. Idk why you are so attached to it
>>741316145what was the update
>>741316270Why is this about "need" to you? Do you actually think that is the point being made here? That you can't beat the game without it?
>>741315856>43 turns for chapter 25Damn bro. Did you fight all the reinforcements?
>>741316270Because it's undeniably, demonstrably, incomparably the premier enemy phase strategy in the game. Not maximizing Bonded Shield utility, if you know of its utility, amounts to a self-imposed challenge run. What kind of retarded point is this, seriously? Do you not javcav in GBAFE? Do you not Sigurd stomp in Genealogy? You don't use Haar with a hand axe in Radiant Dawn?
>>741315460Infinite use sonic sword on ch 9 sounds very OP if Myrrh is keeping her normal growth rates.
>>741316425NTA but I understand where the defense of BS comes from even though I also think it's a broken ability because unlike everything you listed, it isn't available for every turn. Your Cav can Jav every enemy phase. Sigurd can Sigurd every turn. Haar can Haar every time. Seth can Seth every turn.
>>741316407I did. I didn't use warp back then. Ivy (Lyn) next to Alear (Lucina) and Goldmary (Eirika) after Alear formed the 3 tile wall that whittled down the entire center room
>>741316316Fixed the weight on Myrrh's weapon because I noticed she'd be getting doubled by nearly everything on her join map otherwise.>>741316453I'm open to putting durability back on it. I figured it'd be useless by the time she gets her Dragonstone and a later weapon due to getting no bonus stats from it.
>>741316343>>741316425Im gonna be straight with you friend. You have incurable autism crusading against engage for years like this just because you used bonded shield a lot. Nobody wants to talk to you anymore
>>741311078>muh gbaoscar ike double earth is +45% flat avoid for both of them and its on the fastest support in the game and people will still pretend like bonded shield is this ridiculously unprecedented overpowered mechanic
>muh bounded shield
>>741316606It's 4 turns, though. Which is a lot if you know how to use them well. Most Engage maps can't stand up to 4 turns of literal invulnerability. Then if you somehow squander those turns, stand in a blue puddle and there's no way 8 turns of literal invulnerability doesn't finish off the map.
>>741316606Markek has like 10 defense dude. Hes not invincible
>>741316645>Quotes 2 different peopleI wouldn't feel compelled to bring this up if Engagefags weren't so delusional about the game's balance. Denying bonded shield is broken is similar levels of insanity to thinking Seth is bad in FE8.
>>741316645>meds XDshut up, retardDon't argue next time if you can't handle an argument
>>741316425>Do you not javcav in GBAFE? Do you not Sigurd stomp in Genealogy? You don't use Haar with a hand axe in Radiant Dawn?People like this actually exist. No, I like to have fun with video games. Do you also go to the park looking for toddlers to pick fights with?
>>741316816Hi Neimifag
>>741314783Uhh I do like modern Fire Emblem…
>>741316721Because high avoid doesn't compare to guaranteed invincibility, obviously (that said I don't like PoR)
>>741316816Personal experience doesn't factor in when talking about a game's overall balance.
>>741316803>>741316775Yup sure. Uhuh, we all agree you are the best fire emblem player or whatever. Just stop rehashing this years old argument every thread and acting unmedicated. Everyone is over it.
>>741316453>>741316638https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ohqisa7nudn9mq1ghjd0k/Lunatic-Mode.ups?rlkey=pfrc1s4kw6egdwb2zg382ghv0&st=3itrsjmt&dl=0Myrrh nerfed down. All her weapons should now have 50 uses each.
can anyone give me a strategy for beating any of these child paralogues in awakening? I beat up through chapter 15 in the story and I want to pick up my kids now, but the difficulty seems way too high. I think the biggest problem is that I'm getting speed mogged by everything on the map. the slowest enemies here have 27 speed and my fastest non-pegasus unit only has 22. is there some way to only have to fight a few enemies at a time or something?
>>741316721PoR is literally 3D GBAFE
>>741316982Wow I sure wonder which side of this argument you're on
>>741317047God this game was so shit lmao
>>741300128Classic FE has been dead since before anybody in the west knew was FE was.
>>741316972Vantage breaks the game the same way BS does (as long as you kill on counter), while being available earlier in the game, and also available every single turn on the map, and not requiring a second unit. You're not special because you figured out what BS does. People were hyping up vantage Panette builds long before the BS meme dropped.
>>741317047some of the child paralogues need to be left for later in the story. cynthia's is probably the hardest of the core kids
>>741317187>as long as you kill in one hitGood thing that's trivial to guarantee against every type of enemy!
>>741317187>builds long beforenta and i don't disagree with vantage also breaking the game but both were discovered immediately and you can check the archives to see that. veyle&soren was also known as soon as soren's stats released.
>>741317007Also since someone mentioned their disdain for my Amelia change I'll repost the rework here."I gave her back her original growths from the Japanese version because they nerfed her for whatever reason. To help her out with her early game, I gave her the Wing Spear as a Prf weapon so she can potentially get a chance at levels from the cavs and armored units on her join chapter. I also changed her promotions so she can become either a Pegasus Knight or a Wyvern Rider to help give her alternate utility.I guess it's worth mentioning, but with the route merge, she joins on Ephraim chapter 9."
>Shetz Stain
>>741317187Panette is a fucking meme, dude, get out of here. It's a gimmick at best and it takes like five conditionals and inherits to even work properly. The reason BS is good is because it's braindead and it works on everyone, provided they meet basic stat thresholds (Lyn).
>>741317267Requires no more investment than your BS juggernaut does.
I don't care about your gameplay slopSex with KanaSex with TikiSex with NowiSex with CamillaSex with A-Tikit. coomer chad who A ranked FE7 HHM all chapters
>>741317392based except kana who is the worst
>>741317430oh I forgotinbreeding, raw sex with Morgan
>>741305062>>741305103Play your cards right, believe in your team, treat them with care, and you too can have powerful swordies
>>741317497This edgelord is just normally like that
>>741317392I agree with this
>abuse hard mode bonuses and you too can break the game with the same dignified units literally everyone uses
>>741317303Panette is just the most obvious example because her personal skill synergizes with Vantage (and also Wrath) making it incredibly easy to get her to 100% crit, potentially without even using an engrave, which leaves her open to engrave something like Ike.
>>741317671>using a unit is abusing the game
>>741317190I was looking at hers because selena's seems even harder. literally what am I supposed to do against numbers like this? I don't think I can put them off any longer than I already have or else it will be impossible to train them. I'm already having a hard time getting exp on lucina.
>>741317804Just stop playing awakening and be happy
>>741314783FE was never my favorite franchise. It's the 7/10 franchise that I enjoy but I'm not crazy about.
>>741317804I excluded Severa because IIRC you can't get to hers, but you might be able to from the right, it's been a while. You should do Severa's as soon as you can reach it from the left, unless you absolutely want her now then get lucky with chrobin and her parents or something.
>>741317151True
>>741317804That's just how awakening is, if you want to use the child units aside from Lucina you have to deal with the hell that is their paralogue if you aren't putting it off. And if you do put it off you'll get an unpromoted unit that, while having a lot of potential because of a large class set and inheritable skills from gender locked classes, will probably never catch up to your army unless you baby them.
>>741317875I'm enjoying the game except for these difficulty spikes that just don't seem to have a way to play around.
>>741317640Based Tina Enjoyer
>>741317969hers was unlocked immediately after I beat chapter 13. I put it off 2 chapters already hoping I could get stronger but it wasn't enough. I really want to get her now because I was planning on using her as one of my main tank units.
>>741317303Yeah dude everyone agrees with you and loves talking about engage with you, its very thrilling and productive, your narrow and correct view. Yeah, we have heard it a million times and all unanimously agree. No need to talk about it anymore
>>741318184i misremembered then. this guy is right: >>741318030you're going to have to either get units good enough to easily handle the valm arc or wait until it's over and get a bad severa
>>741303106BasedThere is nothing classic about engage. Gameplay maybe good, its still not classic and as a whole package its the worse game vs 3H
>heh, old fe? that's just javcav emblem bro>NOOOOOOOOOOOO STOP BRINGING UP BONDED SHIELDI love how much this mechanic utterly mindrapes nu-FE fags
>>741318039>im enjoying awakeningNo you arent
>>741318437>as a whole packageyou can just say fanfiction and porn since you obviously dont mean things like quality of story, character writing, or music. if it weren't for pokemon 3H would be hands-down the ugliest 1st-party title on the console as well, and even then it's close
>>741318202Engage is just that type of game unfortunately. Everything is super obvious and there's nothing subtle about or unknown about it. Equip your super sentai rings and fuck shit up on repeat. Not like Fates. Framme would have been an interesting unit in Fates instead of just another Warrior scrimblo.Hopefully they do a better job with that aspect in FW but I'm not holding my breath.
>>741318627we like bonded shield just like oldfags like javcavthe only thing i miss in nu-FE is the lolikete growth unit
>>741318437No it's not classic at all outside of the basic skeleton good army vs evil dragon and minor things like Con/Bld returning and Thieves stealing chests but you know what? It's more fun and a more satisfying strategy game and that's all I need to consider it better.
>>741318710Yes we all agree with everything you say, you are right, and we love you very much. Now please stop repeating this years old argument that we are subjected to every single time.
>>741317640Btw I did heavy NTR of A Tiki slop
>>741318710>Not like Fates??? the exact same amount of information, that is to say, all information, is available for every FE. none of them except awakening lunatic, and only before entering a map, have imperfect information. you always know everything possible in FE.
>>741318720You're NEVER getting a loli again. That time is over.
20/20scholars... i... forgive me
>>741317283>>741317007Is this compatible with QoL patches or does it have them pre-included?
>>741318898so you're just gonna piss 3 levels away
>>741317283>>741317007>bending down to zoomer retardsBuff her backAll of the sissy fags that want artificial difficulty levels of Thracia are just retarded as fuck
>muh GBA javcav!>muh hard mode bonuse- ACK!!
>>741318354>get units good enough to easily handle the valm arcfrom where though? say'ri is the last unit I got and isn't even that good so the only new units I can get now are the children.
>>741313687Put a sock in it!/v/ LOVES Fire Emblem.
>>741319215Javcav argument doesn't work on FE6, it's actually a hard game.
>>741319265>Javcav doesnt work in the game where half the enemies are fighting you at 2 rangeUnc emblem elitists dont even play their games
>>741319215Uh oh he might take 5 damage here
>Unc
>>741318998You'll need to be specific in which ones. I did add some QoL aspects.>>741319129That was always something I was on the fence about. Myrrh is sort of hard to balance around in general. If you like using Myrrh, you should still be happy with her given she's gotten a lot earlier and has more options to use in this mod. You also will get her Dragonstone after beating Selene in this version.
>>741319412>enjoys reinhardt memesthis image was made by a gachatard
>>741319462no, fuck yougive her back the infinite uses sword
>>741318772No I don't think I will
>>741319215the horse archer there has to hit 8 61%ers before you hit 3 50%ers assuming you never heal or attack with another uniti'm stupid so i had chatgpt calculate the odds:Under the serpentine orderA, B, B, A, A, B, B, A, ...with:Player A success probability = 61% per A-rollPlayer B success probability = 50% per B-rollA wins if they get 8 successes before B gets 3 successesthe probability that A reaches 8 successes before B reaches 3 successes is about 1.21%.So A succeeds only about 1 time in 83 despite having a higher per-roll success chance, because needing 8 successes is much harder than B needing only 3 successes.
There is literally nothing wrong with save stating
>>741319580Actually he has a 0% chance of dying because the player has healing staves and items.
>>741319610thisI save stated in FE6in FE7in FE8 the only FE I dd not save state was FE11 Hard 2 modefuck you You aren't special nor better on an anime game with waifus and swords just because "you cleared it on very hard"
>>741319462Specifically the ones included in this:https://feuniverse.us/t/fe6-fe7-fe8-plus-enhancement-patch/12603So no-anim combat info, full enemy range view, HP bars, etc.
>>741319412I was going to say I was the one is the middle until I read "praising FE15 as a good return to what they liked in FE" and physically reeled in disgust.
>>741319680>using staves and itemsYou didn't beat the games.
>>741319610this I wouldn't be able to post capped out images of my scrimblos without them.
>>741319680i said ignoring those options
Unc thread
>>741319725>using ANYTHINGYou didn't beat the games.
>>741319757>playing fire emblem You didn't beat the game
>>741319465kek I made it when Heroes was still popular. Just posted it for shits and giggles. It's mostly pretty cringe but still rings somewhat true
>>741319698I'll try and patch these things in and post an updated version later.
>>741319221Robin is the best unit in the gameChrom is pretty good, even better if Robin is femaleLucina is good, becomes Robin 2.0 if Robin is her motherFrederick is greatSumia is goodCordelia is better SumiaPanne is greatI could go on, but the Awakening's growths are so fucking high that as long as you're funneling xp into only a small amount of units you can easily get past the stat bump that later chapters have. This is not a game where you want to build units for every deployment slot, that will spread xp too thin unless you're willing to grind.
>hexagonal mapsNeed it or keep it?
>>741319580My man, you are missing (heh) the point so hard, it's ridiculous. It's comforting to know that there's only one enemy on the map that I have infinity turns to deal with, thank you for the reassurance.
>>741319968keep it. >>741319895you do want to because the enemies cap stats around chapter 22 and you lose your stat check ability so you need some power couples
>>741304085trvke
>>741315856I did only Alear and Sigurd for the final engage map and it was tedious.
>>741319412>was into FE before smashYou will never be japanese
>>741320029Not him but what is the point? What would be a better option for enemy phasing nomads? If you had a bow character they'd just attack you with a sword. You're upset about javelins having low hit, but the alternative is often just not counterattacking at all.
>>741319610I savestated during the most recent fe6 relay but never loaded any of my save states
Kaga approves of save stating but only once every 5 turns.
>>741320306kaga even made VS1 easier in the remake.Kagabros...he turned into a CASUAL...
>>741319895>Robin is the best unit in the game>Chrom is pretty good, even better if Robin is female>Lucina is good, becomes Robin 2.0 if Robin is her motherI try to tell people, you get great units and a more dramatic story out of FeRobin. It's just the way to go
>>741320187There are two points being made. One is that you aren't just cake-walking your way to victory in FE6 with 50-55 hit weapons, regardless of the wielder, which leads into two: stats aren't everything, and HM bonuses don't instantly make the unit good. I guarantee you if I had a christmas cav in the same position with a support or two backing, he would have much higher than 50% hit rate.
>>741320209understandable
>>741319895this plus olivia is my current active roster. I don't have any good support pairs built.
>>741319698>>741319868https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/092rvbxiukusqu00466oo/Lunatic-Mode.ups?rlkey=lmmfntifinzgz6eya9v7hzdjq&st=rfpikvfc&dl=0Added HP bars, danger zone view with Select, fast unit/text speed by default, and battle forecast when animations are off. Let me know if you wanted anything else.
>>741320421>I guarantee you if I had a christmas cav in the same position with a support or two backing, he would have much higher than 50% hit rate.Ok but you have enough deployment slots to bring them and Percy so I still don't see why him being inaccurate with a low hit weapon against the most dodgy enemy type in the game is a big deal. Your image shows that he's practically invincible which would seem to imply he's extremely good. Just attack with a more accurate weapon on player phase and trade a javelin onto him for enemy phase.
>>741320421>I guarantee you if I had a christmas cav in the same position with a support or two backing, he would have much higher than 50% hit rate.so would perceval and one of his fast supports which also gives the biggest boost to hit is another 'gonna use a different team this playthrough' unit who also gets hard mode bonuses
>>741320541nta but unbench fred and stick him to sumia, (promote) and unbench donnel and stick him to nowi although she'll probably still suck. if you want severa now you'll need to use your S-supports
>>741320614Percival's only support who can keep pace with him is Cecilia, and she certainly doesn't fit your description. More to the point, the Christmas boys have 17 maps to build supports before Percival arrives, so they will already have them going.
>>741319215>2-shots with brave lanceGODcival
THERE IS NO POINT IN DISCUSSING SOLVED GAMES! ONLY MULTIPLAYER HAS STRATEGY AND REQUIRES INTELLIGENCE!
>>741320881>SOLVED GAMESZoomer logic
>>741320863>65% hit
>>741320736I'm playing chrom+robin+cute girls only.
>>741320881*loses another relay*
>>741320881Stream FE7 right now and let's see how you do it.
>>741320971>76% true hit58% chance to one round ain't bad. Assuming he doesn't double, that is.
>>741321048yes but you may have to use a filthy moid to get the cute foid severa sans waiting
>>741321048faggot
>play any hackrom from the GBA games>feels like a legitimate hardcore difficulty spike OUTTA NOWHERE in the very fucking beginning which only ramps up more and more>specially Mangs romsHas MANGS damaged the entire fucking FE series for everyone? I want to play a Fire Emblem, not some construct sloppa rage bait which doesn't allow me to pick my favorite characters from said slops.
>>741320881>solved game>with rng hit rates and crits
>>741300128FE was never good, it's the Pokémon of TRPGs
>>741321281>plays kaizo romhacks>gets kaizo prizes
>>741321348>fire emblem is just like pokemon
>>741321281A lot of romhackers make games from the perspective of a hardcore FE player, which is good for other hardcore FE players who eat romhacks for breakfast lunch and dinner but it makes them forget about proper difficulty and progression curves that actual professionally made video games have.
>>741321367so why are the romhacks dev OBSESSED with fucknig kaizo difficulty bullshit?
>cute girls>using tharjakek
>>741321162idk I think I would rather either start grinding or lower the difficulty before I do that
>>741320541The max deployment slots for the rest of the game averages around 14, so you want 7 good combat units at the front of a pair. I would say dump Maribelle, she doesn't have anything going for her. Reclass Robin into almost anything else now that you have rally spectrum and ignis, he can take the hit in stats going to an unpromoted class and if you're going to a promoted class he'll be fine. Get Anna out of sniper, sniper is bad. If you want bows on her that much put her in assassin. Tharja needs a good defensive pair up to properly nostank. Having two Robinsexuals on the team is going to hurt at minimum one them if they don't pair up with Robin. Get more guys and pair them up, supports increase the chance of dual strike and guard in addition to higher stats when paired up.
>>741321281>which doesn't allow me to pick my favorite charactersThis was sort of why I reworked Amelia. I knew she was already the worst character in Sacred Stones and I also knew she had quite a large fanbase so I wanted to throw them a bone so if they wanted to use her, then they probably still could. It's still meant to be a lunatic mode, so she's still going to require you to work for it though.
>>741321395I know reading skills took a hit in recent years but damn.
>>741321416>proper difficulty and progression curves that actual professionally made video games have.most FE games dont have these either
>>741321546Your post was stupid anyways
>>741321576The truth isn't always easy to accept
>>741321421because they are the javcav bonded shield LTC type of posters here. normal FE is easy and beaten so they make something harder.
>>741321681I was arguing with you about bonded shield earlier and tbdesu I don't like romhacks.
>>741321560Anon, don't get silly with me. You know what I mean. An official FE game wouldn't have an earlygame that starts you off going up against status staff users and effective weaponry that can one-shot one of your units but a romhack sure might.
>>741321416>them forget about proper difficulty and progression curves that actual professionally made video games have.>Andaron Saga retard devs want to add more bullshit in top of an already insanely difficult hack for no fuckih reason, making those who play in nothing but below Lunatic, to not be rewardedThe same thing happened with Bylets Rings or some shit, I had to literally blast the save states chapter 2 BECAUSE the fucking game was not fair sending reinforces from the get goTLP is a dogshit hack that somehow did NOT feel like this.So what are Mangs and the rest of the people doing?
>>741321281Skill issue
>>741321806Fuck you PH
>>741321751I don't like them either. Kaizo romhackers want to make the ultimate difficulty mode so they tend to be metafags.
>>741321806what is the point of this character other than being a cumrag for leo?
>>741321931Emergency locktouch for an ironman.
>>741321758genuinely curious what non-echoes games from the past 15 years you've played on the highest difficulty, because oneshots are extremely common in the earlygame of most of them even without effective weapons
>>741314283I didn't get Ran when I watched it other than "muh nukes". I had the same problem with Muramasa.
>>741311742>leave with Leif first>Chapter ends, overwrite save>lose entire partyBravo kaga
>>741321758>effective weaponry that can one-shot one of your unitsDoesn't really count because it's a forced casual fight, but mommy Lumera can literally use Sigurd's Ridersbane on Vander on the second Engage map.
>>741322483Read the dialogue in the game next time
>>741322483Should've RTFM, n00b.
>>741322569The original translation patch worded it really poorly. Made it sound like if Leif escaped, everyone else would automatically.
Cutesythea
>>741321931Ive tried her multiple times in rmu's and the only thing shes any good at is early promoting because shes actually just 1 speed away from the perfect speed to double everything with tonics. Shes way too inaccurate and fragile even with heart seeker and fire to reliably gain EXP on enemy phase so she will often just fall behind if trained normally. Luckily she already has all the stats she needs in terms of offense so shes salvagable with an early master seal and then living the rest of her pathetic life as a backpack>>741322569>bro just read the untranslated japanese game
>>741322283You hit the nail on the coffin without even knowing it. Those are the highest difficulties in their respective games. Romhacks either only have one difficulty or have these things happen even on their non-highest difficulty.
>>741320881Have you ever even played PvP in a strategy game like Fire Emblem?
>>741322569>>741322604>>741322628>>741322483>>741322745Why hackrom retards also do this shit? Who thinks this is fair and balanced?
>>741322745stop playing untranslated japanese games and crying about how you didn't understand something then
>>741316168condolences
>>741322961Yeah, fe shadows
>>741323109What series is that from?
>>741323212Fire emblem
FE4 remake please
Does corrin count as classic FE? When's the cutoff?
>>741323475CANCELLED
>>741323508Classic is a matter of perspective. In 10 years Fates will probably be old enough to be considered a classic. When the GBA games were the new games on the block, Kaga Emblem was classic FE.
>>741323548One leaker saw sigurd ring in engage and went full retard and were still dealing with the consequences of it
>>741323508Classic FE>FE1-5Nu-Classic FE>FE6-11Nu-FE>FE12-EchoesRaped FE>3H-FW
>>741323508Apparently Awakening is a classic now and I felt dire hip pain when someone mentioned its almost 15 years old
Fateshit will never be classic.
>>741322961Fire Emblem by web like 20 years ago
>>741323676>Gaiden black sheep gets a faithful remake with Hidari art>FE4 still left in the gutterMake it make sense
>>741323865I remember trying to get people to play that with me but it never went anywhere.
>>741323713my favorite point of reference for awakening's age is that it's the LAST game without gay marriageif you cannot remember when it was socially unacceptable to be gay, you cannot remember the world of awakening's release!
how's my Mia looking anons? do i keep investing or should i switch to Nephenee coin?
Just make your own classic FE style game, I did. It's a pretty fun thing to make if you know how to program or are willing to learn
I hope FW has good scrimblo units.
>>741324038>good scrimblooxymoron
>>741321463longbow anna has been one of my most useful units in the last 2 chapters. how should I pair my units if I don't want to change from this deployment?
Seth is so lucky Valter held back...
>>741323508I don't know why we have to make this so complicated, the cutoff is simply when the logo changed to the one they use to this day.
>>741321281Mang's hacks aren't hard though. We have actual Fire Emblem games harder than his shit. Andaron Saga pretty much has FE balancing where you have a handful of busted as characters you can lean on and everyone else in various stats of OK with a handful of shitters at the bottom. >>741321931She's a good staff user in Outlaw and can one round pretty much anything with a magic bow, she gives Xander Access to Dark Knight skills. Outside of Conquest she's a good partner for Subaki for a bulky Dark Mage with Vantage Access, she's mostly diet Elise though.
>>741321281The only hackrom i've enjoyed is Dark Lord and the Maiden of light, the only difficulty there is is at the very end but at that point it doesn't matter anymore.
>>741324010I want to. I'm a sprite artist and barely know shit about coding so I needed something easy to work with but I initially wasn't too happy with any of the easy choices like FEBuilder, LT, Tactile, or SRPG Studio. But two recent SRPG Studio projects showed me that you're able to change a lot of stuff I didn't know was possible to change and the plugin library has gotten substantially better since the last time I checked it 2 years ago. So when the new version of SRPG Studio comes out, I might get serious about making my own. Also share your project anon.
>>741322494That's a handcrafted setup designed for the sole purpose of spooking you, and besides, Lumera can't one shout Vandee under any circumstances.
>>741321281A good chunk of it is just that it's really hard to balance something you're making. Like you can say things like it being made for the hardcore audience but the most likely reason is just that you playtest your own thing so much that you have each map solved and feeling trivial (and FE-likes take a long time to playtest in general)
>>741324715Anon, most devs know that and realize it's common sense to have other people playtest their game. Unless you're calling FE romhackers that stupid.
>>741324836I know that and I don't understand why you'd interpret it that way. It's hard to get people to playtest your in-progress stuff so their feedback is limited. That and a ton of people in the fandom want to larp as super hardcore and won't admit if something is kaizo tier because they're afraid it'll make them look stupid.
>>741300128>engage triedNigga you drunk.
Most up to date Sacred Stones lunatic mod.https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/5czqhtj9uiadms3se3j57/Lunatic-Mode.ups?rlkey=4xxyy4ai5vlsfxl70gt7wwsid&st=lba4q58h&dl=0Myrrh was acting funny so had to sort that out. She should be working properly now.
>>741319231You know what else /v/ loves?Racial Slurs and Buzzwords
>>741321348>>741321395Kek
>>741321681>Read javcav as JAV CAV ROFL
>>741326078not reading your smashtard schizo babble, itoddler
>>741323475>FE4 remake pleaseJapan doesn’t want it dumb fuck, move the fuck on.
>>741323508>Does corrin count as classic FE? When's the cutoff?What Corrin counts for is the first shitstain on the franchise and Smash Bros
>>741326414second spoiler isn't true. that's snake
>>741323871>FE1 gets a limited time localization release in 2020Must’ve been a nothingburger since you forget it every time, what if another game got a limited localization release?
>>741324007Amazing defense. +1 on str above average. Depends on who you find cuter
>>741324010>Fire Emblem will never get its Sonic Mania or Final Fantasy Resonance moment It will never get its own dedicated Fighting Game like Sonic the Fighters/Battle or Dissidia!
>>741324270What’s your favorite unique logo?Mines is FE3, the baby blue font with a purple outline is unique.
>>741326148Guess you cannot play FE because you can’t read, Pit Icarus
>>741325094Engage is the name of a fire emblem game
>>741326776i like 2013 the best. they got lazy like the NFL and reused the logo 10 times though
>>741326776I like how simple but effective Gaiden's logo is. Just enough flair with the sword and shield without being too busy.
>>741324007That's pretty impressive anon, I would keep her. As for Nephenee, why not both? FE9 is generous.
>random smashtard coming in thinking anyone ITT cares about his party game rosterfaggotrywill never cease to be funny
>>741327908I don't care about rosterfaggotry but I do like to watch Zain win.
>>7413267765 is the coolest>"Fire Emblem" is clearly readable>fire effects within the letters>an emblem behind it6 would be up there if it had an english version. Remove the blue text and make the red text english, then it's great.
>>741327136FE9 isn't generous in maniac unless you do degenerate grinding
>>741326776The classic fe7. Radiant dawn looks good too
>>741330103Yeah, you get a pittance of BEXP.
For me? It's Gay Fates. Started on GBA.
>>741309827>making a broken character is pretty much impossible >bonded shield with flying units>Yunaka with Corrin emblem >Pannete with wrath and hold out skill>Hortensia in general >speedtaker on any mage >windgod ring on any archer>canter+ on any unitThere's a ton of shit in Engage that's broken and trivializes maddening mode.
Anyone has that pic of the black knight coming out of a fairytale house? I finally get it
>>741331125He did that to Mist for me. She then dodged his attacks. Felt fitting after his threat toward her.
My dream game is a fire-emblem like strategy game set in the one year war period of the UC Gundam franchise. Imagine being able to change mobile suits arounds, each pilot has a set of benefits that synergizes with specific mobile suits. Shit would be so cash man
>>741331125Are you playing your first time on maniac mode?
>>741331563Yeah i played the GBA games first and they were very easy, no point in playing PoR in anything below the hardest difficulty available.
>>741331125
>>741331654Maniac is weird because it's just more tedious than actually more difficult than Hard. Hard actually has good enemy placement and enemy density, but Maniac says fuck both those things, have all the enemies.
>>741331763He walked all that distance to give you a chance...which actually fits his character.
>>741300128Unfortunately, Engage sucked, much like Fates and Radiant Dawn sucked. The series has only good games besides those three.
>>741331805>Hard actually has good enemy densityNo it doesn't. There are like 5 enemies on the final map.
>>741331969Wild to consider those games bad and not Gaiden, Awakening, and Echoes.
>>741330817Half of what you listed is either not even good>Wind god lmao>Yunaka needing to baby her avoid rates constantly so as to not be ignored by enemiesOr just shit that's generally strong but doesn't "trivialize" anything on its own like canter or Hort. You weaken your argument when you throw all this misinfo in there and other anons have already thoroughly explained the truly busted shit like bonded shield.
wolf knights
knight wolves
Engagies and fatestards get the fuck out of my classic fe thread
>>741331981Why do you lie?
you make alear a wolf knight for the bonded shield metaI make her a wolf knight for the ponytailwe are not the same
making anyone a wolfknight is stupid because its a middling class
>>741304940nom nomthank you master
>>741332657I keep her on her base class, because Dragon bonus Roy is sick.
>>741332696>supports everyone for crazy high avoid stacking>daggers to bait and one round mages>high natural avoid >A swords for silver blade engage attacks when necessarywolf knight alear specifically is good.
>>741332657>you make alear a wolf knight for the bonded shield metaWhy would you do that. Pick a class with higher defense like great knight or paladin so she doesn't get targeted if she's shielding.
>want to replay 3H>think how all the classes except 3-4 suck assi understand if im not doing maddening it doesnt really matter, but so many of the classes are just so bad, paladin swordmaster the caster horse duoand wyvern lord is so far the best its not even closeit just makes it lame somehow, idk maybe i have autism
>>741333005paladin is good what the fuck are you saying
>>741333005>it just makes it lame somehowIt absolutely does.
>>741333005paladin sylvain, bernadetta and ferdinand are great for lancefaire boosting swift strikes and vengeance.
>>741333043paladin is shit, horses are not great on alot of maps, and even the ones they are fine at wyvern lord is better in literally every wayand even if you just want someone as PLD for flavor it LOSES SPEED, WHY
>>741311391Is this the same relay from months ago or is this a new one?
>>741333136swift strikes nigga, it has lancefairealso it's a decent class for like dimitri so you don't spend 99999999999999999 weeks grinding axe and flying rank
>>741333258no you should absolutely be grinding dimitri's axe rank. knowledge gem + solo grinding skirmishes and he will easily cap axes by endgame.
>>741333136>>741333005>>741333043>>741333258>>741333383Go to the 3h thread
>>741333258why would you not keep dmitri as his exclusive class? it doesnt get -spd like paladin does
>>741333646high lord doesn't have avoid +10 that stacks on his personal and alert stance as a cushion for the scenario that battalion vantage/wrath doesn't oneshot something on enemy phase.
>>741327908Cry about it some more
>THAT'S A LOTTA DAMAGE!
>>741321931she nearly gets one shot by enemy mages it's so terrible.
>>741332894Lucina user won't get targeted if their avoid is significantly lower, which is pretty easy to manipulate
What series would you classicchads want Fire emblem to colab with?
>>741335546A real SMT crossover.
>>741334328>ninja rape cave with no xander effie or bennyyikes. this is going to be hard. i always just wall here with xander and throw fire/daggers/handaxe/javelins over and dance away.
>>741328472>Remove the blue text and make the red text english, then it's great.You just described the FE7 logo but with the Binding Blade behind it.
>>741313615>Meanwhile Final Fantasy on the other hand…...Is getting a reheated gacha game as its "return to form" turn-based game.
>>741314783It's not my favorite franchise, but none of those games are even bad, let alone bad enough to totally ruin my view on the franchise. At worst they're "okay" games worth a single playthrough.
>>741300128I'm new to the series, which entries are the must play?
>>741337630GBA is a pretty good entry point. If you like those you'll probably end up playing the rest or at least trying them.
>>741337630Really everything you need from the series is already on Switch/Switch 2>I want to play the classicsFire Emblem (2003), Sacred Stones, Path of Radiance on NSO>I want to experience the best story and be all caught up with the lore before Fortune's Weave releasesThree Houses>I want to play the game with the best and deepest gameplay mechanics in the seriesEngage
>>741338031>Switch FEsRemember that time FE1 was on the Switch only for Nintendo to pull it off the store 4 months later?
>>741300128>classic emblem>posts engageYou did not make this thread in good faith, waifunigger
I thought this was a serra run for sure after getting 3 defense levels in a row but...
Just finished conquestI used child paralogues, forging, mess hall, tonics, etc. and the game ended up being too easy as a result. Next time I should add some restrictions.The biggest annoyance was having too much defense so enemies wouldn't attack.Can someone explain the mozu meme to me? She had 13 strength as a level 20 archer and was always in danger of getting OHKOd. I continued to feed her kills as a sniper but she never seemed to justify her deployment slot.Also, how was I supposed to use Ophelia? She was okay as a dark knight but I expected her to be better. Nice tits though.
>>741338475Normal hard or lunatic?
>>741338537lunaticIt was an ironman run. Only deaths (kaze and arthur) were in percy's paralogue. Percy and the far group started moving on turn 4, the middle group started moving on turn 5, so there were >30 units charging me.
CAV Emblem ruined Fire Emblem.
>>741338475>Can someone explain the mozu meme to me?It's a meme for a reason
>>741337630Every game is worth playing except FE1/2/3 which have all been remade. Certain games I would play before others. Best entry points are:1) Blazing Blade (then Binding Blade and Sacred Stones)2) Awakening (then Fates)3) Path of Radiance (then Radiant Dawn, it's a direct sequel)4) Three Houses5) Shadow Dragon (then New Mystery, it's a direct sequel)Your mileage will vary with Shadows of Valentia, Genealogy, and Thracia (midquel to Genealogy). Genealogy is a bit of a slog and very different from other FEs but worth playing for the story. Engage is excellent and probably the best of all the games gameplay-wise, but I highly recommend playing all the other games you're interested in first. It's a celebration title so you'll appreciate it even more if you're acquainted with most of the lords from each game first.
Finished FE9, my childhood first FE game.Now I remember why I and other people liked it. A decently well constructed story with a likeable protagonist that is one of the most useful characters in the game. Anyway I never played Radiant Dawn. Is it worth a run? I plan to go in blind (mostly).
>>741338475You got a profoundly shit mozu because her growths are crazy.>ended up being too easyTheres a ton of things that make the game less intimidating when you really use everything the game gives you.When you understand and actively pursue 1 round benchmarks and build a team full of specialists, the game becomes much easier than just fumbling around. Just being able to 1 round the tanky enemies on enemy phase already solves at least 50% of conquest because of how many skills require surviving combat to activate like lunge or seals or strikes etc. Enablers like rallybots and backpacks and shelters also make the game much easier if you are juggernauting instead of specializing your units. Late child paralogues also let you snowball through hoshido with a huge exp lead
Bros, Marcia is kill, the Ravens are ambush spawn it seems.
Fuck
>>741339739Shouldn't have taken that 1% chance, anon. Bad strategy.
>>741337756>>741338031>>741339050cheers
>>741339739Now that's strategy
>>741339739truly the peak of strategic gameplay
>>741339739
>>741339547woah, my mozu was like -5 str and defMy strongest units were magic corrin (mostly dark knight), ninja soleil (inherited trample and good stats), and hero xander. I had jakob get inspiration then marriage seal to falcoknight, and percy came with even more rallies.The child paralogues gave tons of exp and they also provided lots of useful items, money, and statboosters. So next time I'll just do the main story. Not sure if I should also ban mycastle stuff.
>>741339349Radiant dawn doesnt play much like POR on hard mode and a lot of features get removed like enemy ranges and weapon triangle and even entire bonus experience objectives just get thrown out. Its more of a variety game where you are forced to use a bunch of different army compositions and every map feels pretty unique so if your favorite thing about fire emblem is emotional attachment to an elite group of goons then bury that expectation. You will use about 80% of the cast and they will be in disadvantageous scenarios constantly and some will leave their armies to join other armies at different points of the game. The variety and difficulty is really the only selling point of radiant dawn because the story sucks, the gameplay also sucks (huge rng fiesta early on), everything takes forever, and most of the resource management you can only really do on your second playthrough. Just remembered theres a bunch of hidden item tiles in the game too lmao, they are also luck based if you pick up the hidden item or not god what the fuck were they thinking?Top tier gameplay-story integration though, like the kind that would never be seen in fire emblem ever again.
is this a good Nep bros? i gave her a seraph robe so she didn't instantly die in her join chapter, should have given her the dracoshield too but it was lost in the sea alongside Marcia and i don't think dead units equipment goes back to the convoy in this game.
>>741340319You can just look up (name) average stats on good you know
>>741340402I guess i can.
getting a switch 2 soon, last game I played was Awakeming on 3dsengage or 3H?also is FATES worth playing?any non censored tranlation after all these years?
>>741341225Yea for both Engage and Fates having uncensored translations.Fates doesn't translate the parent child supports but everything else yes.Rngage was funny as its blacklisted everywhere because of loli Anna. Both TLs can be found on varish hangout. But why would you want that when S2 isn't hacked?
>>741313687>almost every Pokèmon threadActually noOnly threads that don't shit on pokemon or if thread shits on gen5Kinda funny though
>>7413412253H if you like political intrigue, long bouts of exposition, monastery chores, teaching, and tea time with your studentsengage if you like playing fire emblem
>>741340319good neph, she's above her averages in everything but luck & res
>>741313687point me towards the Fire Emblem board please
>>741342012I still have my switch 1, or I guess I can emulate,since im upgrading my pc soonI like physical, so I guess ill buy 3H and emulate uncensored Engage and Fates
>>741341225Play 3H because its the better overall package vs Engage + FW is coming out.Engage has way better gameplay BUT you are basically playing a game with no story and you likely can’t play in public because of how the characters look.None of these are traditional fire emblem so don’t come in with that expectation.If you have time also play Fates, Conquest has the best gameplay in the series.If you like fire emblem, you should play all of them and form your own opinion.
>>741339559damn you a lame
>>741342012found fates, I think, ill give it a try to this rom in the meantime>>741344063I originally skipped Conquest/IF/fates because of the bs censorship, was hoping for a fantranslation but it took many years apparently, fantranslations slowed down a lot around that time, or were focused on the JP exclsuive Vita/PSP stuff and LNs games
>>741304039you didn't look hard enough
>>741344646Just from that image I can tell this was made by insufferable people.
Come on Guy, take a load off buddy!
>>741339739THAT'S XCOM BABY
aren't you niggas tired of discussing the same shit over and over again?All these combined threads have a longer word count than all FE's scripts combined (with Heroes included)Take a step back and look at how absurd this discussion is. You're obsessing over some mid strategy rpg made for preteens.
>>741345723What a stupid question, if I felt tired of it I wouldn't come here, dipshit. Don't project your feelings onto other people.
>>741345723>why do you care about things you likeretard
>>741345908>>741345816so why do you care/like this shit franchise so much?
>>741345934What's it matter to you?
>>741345934I don't see how explaining that you will produce an interesting conversation, fuck off.
>>741345953thousands of other games are worth discussing more, meanwhile this shit gets daily discussion (even when a game is not on the horizon)>>741345971I accept your concession
>>741346002Name 5 strategy series you like more.
>>741346002seethe more, faggot.this "shit" will keep getting daily discussion and you can't do anything about it.
>>741301761Very funny anon, pretty good
>>741346037I can call you a faggot at least. That's sufficient to me.
Would you play this FE Game?- Character deaths are acknowledged. E.g. Abel is killed and affiliated characters, like Cain, Jagen and Marth have quotes after the chapter, referencing the character's death/injury- Between chapters there's a base. It has all the features of the monastery (well the features that actually help boost unit performance), but condensed into a menu, like in the Tellius games.- Being able to assign tasks to units who aren't being deployed. These tasks could include training, gathering resources or attempting to recruit allies.- A couple of large, multi-section maps where you deploy a larger number of units, split into smaller squads.- Proper Gaiden Chapters with secret, but intuitive requirements- Gameplay of GBA with Fateswakening Skill and Class systems.- Only niggers are bad guys and one comically weak playable unit.
>>741347214Forgot to add that the different squads thing means the squads complete different sections.
>>741347214You could make a modern fire emblem set in detroit with those parameters.
By classic are we talking pre-Awakening, pre-Radiance/Radiant, ooooor pre-GBA games?I've beaten 1/2/3 (NDS/3DS versions), 3H and currently playing through Awakening on my New 2DS XL, honestly it's great and I love the pair up shit. I heard Fates is mostly dogshit outside of Conquest so I wonder if I should even bother with the other two. Then again everyone shits on story/characters of Engage but say it has some of the best FE gameplay so I wonder what that's all about too.
>>741347841Depends who you are talking with, I think there's a clear difference between Kaga and post-Kaga games but most people would include gba games or even tellius games in the "classic" era.
>>741347841Birthright and Revelations aren't so bad that they're not worth playing at least once.
>>741312540>It's different when the games I like do it because... IT JUST IS!kek
>>741347841If you liked Engage you should play Fates since imo gameplay is even better. As the other anon said, Birthright and Revelations are not as good but worth playing at least once.Also maybe an unpopular opinion but I prefer Fates’ story over Engage. Fates at least tried to be ambitious but fell completely flat. Engage basically has no story with how predictable and cringy it is.
>>741348619I haven't played either but I can emulate Engage (that's how I beat 3H) and I have Fates with all paths on my 2DS.I thought people say Fates doesn't know what it wants to be while Engage despite having weird fanservice story/characters/rings, has actually great mechanics and maps and feels much more focused instead of a chaotic mess?
>741345723L Ragebait bozo + u're brown
>played a lot of GBA Fire Emblem>never played any of the modern ones because i stopped buying Nintendo consoles for a few gens>get a Switch last year>try 3 houses>mfw 80% of the game feels like discount Persona>the battles feels like secondary gameplay to all the dating sim mechanicsMaybe the pacing gets better later on, but i just couldnt keep myself interested.No wonder most Fire Emblem threads nowdays are just anons talking about waifus like this is an anime series
>>741349106Engage is what you want
>>741348619>Fates at least tried to be ambitious but fell completely flat.I've had fun discussing what Fates story could have been but I've never had any real interest in Engage's story. I do like some of Engage's characters, it does have some supports I find just as fun as old ones.
Don't let the thread die yet.
>>741351398Why not? It would have been fine. Not every thread needs to hit 500.
>>741351398Okay
