How would you rank the Fallout games?
>>7413026021 (The Tim Cain Original)>>>>>>>>2=3=NV>>>>>>4>>>>>>>>>76
>>7413026021>2>NV>Tactics
There are only two and they are both good.
>>741302798How do I get into 1 and 2? I have never played a CRPG b4
>>741302602FO2 > FO1 > New Vegas > Tactics > who cares
>>741302602Awful > Garbage > Terrible > ShitFaggot franchise
>>741302858Just take it slowly. It's one of those games that requires reading and most zoomers can't do this because of TikTok brain damage. Take it super slow and once you got the UI and mechanics down it becomes addictive.
2 > 1 > the rest
>>741302858Just realize it's not for a tiktok addicted zoomer like you. Read the manual to understand the controls, the manual is in the steam library under the additional content section. Look up for tutorials if you get stuck on some quest because you're a low IQ zoomer.
>>741302826Wheres Fallout 3 and 4?
>>741302602FO1>FO2>FNV.Who cares about the rest.
>>741302858treat it like a board game. Its actually super super super simple once you get it. Way simpler than other CRPGs
>>741303101those arent fallout games, they're toddout.
>>741302868>>741302956so trve
>>741303134Fallout 1 is also criminally short. It can be 100% in one evening if you know what you are doing.
>>7413026021 > 2 > NV > Tactics > BoS > (POWER GAP) > 3 > (OH SHIT NIGGER HUGE POWERGAP) > 4 > 76>>741302858Start with F1 and don't sweat the small stuff too much. Run with a premade character or make your own while tagging USEFUL skills for initial survival like Small Guns instead of shit like Energy Weapons. Skim the ancient manual, and realize you can do shit like use your skills on scenery to fix wells, etc when relevant. Make the occasional save every hour or two on a new slot so if you get bricked you can just go back a bit
>>741302602Sonora>F2>F1>FNV
>>741302947I mean I've played shit like Deus Ex and Morrowind before, would you say that it's easier to get into than those games?
>>741302602Tactics > Brotherhood of Steel > F02 > F01
>>741302602F3 > F4 > Tabletop GURPS > The rest of Outta-Business's catalogue across however many iterations they needed to reincorporate into to stay in business despite being "the best game studio evar!!!" and cancelling more games than they ever released.
So basically everyone is agreement that the classic fallout is better and that NV is the only good 3D one.>>741303586Those are easier to get into because you have many more control of your movement and camera and are closer to modern games. You also have way more control with interaction. FO Classic is sorta more like point and click games with a lot of cool action.
>>7413026021>tactics>nv>3>4>2
>>7413026021 > NV > 2 > 3 > 4 > 76 haven't played tactics
>>741303586It's not hard to get into, but it can be hard to finish. Fallout 1 will let you make a broken character incapable of completing the game. That's not the case in Morrowind, where you can always build up a deficient stat, and I doubt it's possible in Deus Ex (unless you are really trying to fuck JC up).Come to think of it, Fallout 1 does have a difficulty slider. If you gimp your character then the slider might be your salvation. I don't know if it would work, because I've always been too proud to take that path.
>>741303985First timers usually fuck themselves over in the Glow.
1 > New Vegas > 3 > 2 > 4
>>7413026022 is the best, but still flawed1 is cool for being influential but is too short/simplethe 3d games are open world and console oriented, so they all suck
>>741303757Fallout (and RPGs in general...) work better in a CRPG format. NV is great, I have a lot of fun playing it and my only criticisms of it is it still has too much toddout DNA in it.
>>7413026021>NV>2>3>4>76
>>741302858Just look up guides online, once you get the basics it's not that hard at all
>>741302602As a sex haver.4>3>76>1>NV>2
i just beat the first game the other day and it was incredible but im starting the 2nd game and it is 7 hours of the most poorly designed combat encounters ive ever seen in a game
>>7413026021/1: Fallout: A Post Nuclear Role Playing GameThere aren't any others.
>>741303173>Want to like 1 and 2, wish they played more like Arcanum. Hard to fault it for not being like a game that hadn't came out yet. But I wish skills like throwing and traps were better. No need to lie though, I've never beaten either. And it's hard to compare a CRPG to an FPS. I'm not ranking either. If I did, I might rank 1 higher because Fast Shot works on melee/unarmed and I find that sort of thing funny, like Throwing costing 0 AP in Arcanum.>Tempted to give Tactics since I like strategy RPGs like Fire Emblem, Shining Force, and Super Robot Wars. Not sure if it'd translate>Sonewhat like 3. It gas nice visuals and the fundamental gameplay is fine. But its biggest flaw is the perks are very boring and character builds are nonexistent >I like Fallout New Vegas, a lot. Very few games have the raw choice to roleplay a character in the way you want that the base game does, and the DLCs are nice gauntlet to flex the abilities of your character's builds. Builds that are very fun to make if your not power gaming, though the SPECIAL system is still flawed. But the perks are fun, and strangely, the gameplay is a lot funner than 3. Like the ADS makes shooting easier and the game doesn't feel as VATS reliant.>Don't like 4, at all. It strips away skill system that 3 made and NV expanded on. Doesn't feel as fun to make a character for, because the game already made one for you. This isn't a fair metric to review the game on, as it's an entirely different direction the game was taken in. But it doesn't make me like it anymore. Also the shooting being better than NV is overated, but I also don't play very many modern FPS games.>Have fundamentally zero interest in 76.NV>3>4. I am a filthy casual at CRPGs
>>7413026024>1>3>2>Tactics>NV
>>7413026021 > 3 > 2 > NV/4 (both of which are shit)I haven't played the rest.1 & 3 are the only ones that have an original feel to them. They stand on their own while the rest are derivative, NV especially so. FO4 is just all over the place, it never establishes itself.
>>741302858Use the premade characters if you're feeling overwhelmed, and consult the manual if something confuse you. F1 for help on the controls.
>>7413026021 > New Vegas > 4 > 2 > 3 > 76
>>741304145>2 is the best, but still flawedTrue
>>7413026021 > 2 > 4 >= 3 > New Vegas > 76I like all of them to various extents. If you asked me this in 2010 I would've ranked New Vegas as either the best or second best, but now I'd pretty emphatically argue that it's the single most overrated game ever made.
>>741303818This but I also haven't played BoS, 76, and Shelter. I also enjoyed every Fallout game to some extent
>>741304448Gay sex doesn't count
>>741302602How would it have ranked if it was finished?
>>741305380Better than 2 but not as good as 1, like New Vegas
>>741305380I suspect that many of the people who think they'd have liked it (particularly if they say they would've preferred it to the actual Fallout 3) would probably have hated it. There are ancient forum posts of Josh Sawyer having to stick up for it against many of the same criticisms that trve Falloutheads/video essay enthusiasts now level at the Bethesda games.
>>741305380Pretty well. I don't think it'd be as popular as the 3D Fallouts, but it'd probably play well enough. It's a bit of a shame CRPGs lost relevance in the 2000s, I think the format would've really shinned well all things considered
>>741305380my only experience with this THING is from some pcgamer cd install, used to crash every time i got into combat
>>7413026021: Fallout 12: Fallout 2Honorable mention: Fallout Tactics
>>741305380it looked really bad, I don't knowthe spritework in FO1 and 2 was decent
>>741302602FO1 > FONV > FO2 > FO3 > literal shit > FO4
>>741305312Yeah it doesn't that's why NV is second last.
>>741305380From the design documents at least I think it could have been great. Although the main plot feels too much like a rehash of the previous two games
>>741302858Number one piece of advice I'll give:There's a setting in the options menu that controls how fast characters move in combat.That is WAY too slow by default and raising it will make a huge difference in whether the game will feel like a slog or not.
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>>741302602As long as the Bethesda games are ranked last you have a good list.
>>741302858Action Points are the most important resource. You can make any build and beat the game, but it will be extremely difficult without at least a decent amount of action points. In other words, putting a few points into DEX/AGILITY is a must. Can't remember but I think at least 9 or 10 action points should be the minimum. Some brainlets will come in and say you can increase your dex/agility in game in a few ways so just look it up. You use action points for everything in combat so that's why. You need a decent sized pool to move around and attack more than once during any combat encounter. Without it you'll be quickly overwhelmed.
>>741302602NV > F2 > F1 > power gap > Tactics > F3 > rest > show
>>741305732The only questionable things are maybe the graphics which were still being worked on and how they were trying to include some kind of real time battle system into it, but only as an option. As it was it still would've been turn based, but you see Interplay coming down on them with the trends of the time. If they had dropped Brotherhood of Steel instead of Fallout 3 they might've forced more of its action RPG mechanics and other sensibilities into it.
>>741306649i had a fun time with 3 and i can't deny it saved the franchise and gave us NV eventuallyi also had fun with FO4 even though it was shit. But that hits on another thing that i want to talk about and it's how Bethesda games give me the feeling of "this is bad, I wish it had a little more to it" instead of "this is bad, i'll just stop". Fo4 could've been so much fucking better than it was with so little changes
>New Vegasthat's about it
>>741306783>Fo4 could've been so much fucking better than it was with so little changesThisLegendary enemies and bulletsponges in general are the first things that come to my mind
>>7413026021 > NV > 2 = 3 > 4
1 > nv > 4 > 2 > 3 > 76 > shelterHaven't played tactics or the BoS ones
>>7413026021>NV>2>>>3>>>>>>>4>>>>>>>>>76
>>741302858The first 1 is actually hard. No joke. It's brutal. Even if you somehow managed to get to Mariposa. Mariposa is a bloodbath. It's a save-scumming hell.
>>741308675How is it hard? Is it turn based?
>>741308675watturboplas destroys everything in one-2 hits same as the alien blaster and hardened power armour means you take no damage at allplus you can farm the deathclaws in the boneyard for xp to get perksthe first game is baby mode like all the fallout games, the games are pure power fantasynow the beginning of fallout 2, thats some real shit
>>741306783>they saved the franchiseHow, exactly, dumbfuck? The original creator and teams were trying to bid for the IP back from Interplay when they went babkrupt. They got outbid by Bethesda. Troika was a small Indie company at the time only ever releasing 3 (legendary) games. If Bethesda hadn't bought it, Tim Cain would've owned his creation back, and made legendary shiet out of it.Tim Cain + Black Isle Studios under Interplay. Tim Cain left halfway during Fallout 2 to make his own company. Troika made Arcanum, TOEE and VTMB. Interplay goes bankrupt and Troika lost the bid to Fallout IP, IP sold to Bethesda, Troika closes down. Beth made F3. Part of the gang from Black Isle that made Fallout 1 and 2 founded Obsidian, and they made FNV. That was the fucking chronology. Tim Cain later reunited with the old gang in Obsidian. Goes on and off semi-retirement and now he's back and the team is working on a new undisclosed project.Beth didn't fucking save Fallout. It fucking tainted it. Troika was extremely capabale with Arcanum and TOEE, and VTMB is still amazing 3D RPG. VTMB is like the precursor to FNV. Same engaging stories and branching choices / path / roleplaying aspects. We're on the darkest timeline. Some other dimensions and universe gets the original Fallout 3 (Project Van Buren), we could have gotten a Black Isle + Troika "Van Buren / Fallout 3 / in the style of VTMB".... which is exactly what fucking FNV is.
3 is the only worthwile game in the series my fellow sirs
>>7413026023 > everything else (never played and never will)
>>741310009It's just a meme by bethestards to cope about how shit their games are. Even if Troika never made a bid it's still retarded to say Bethesda saved the IP. What Bethesda did is more like exhume Fallout's rotting, stinking corpse, put some half assed makeup on it, and leave it out in the sun to bake and ferment and stink even more.
>>741302602NV>1>2>4>3=Tactics>=BoS>76
>>741309761How do you get the items again? And know where to farm Deathclaws? Fucking IGN walkthrough? Next you're telling me you know all the tricks of keeping your dumb companions in the back and not touching the fucking lasers coz every fucking one uses the same guides.
>>741310009Its assets made FNV possible
>>741302798isn't tim cain the cunt who says all criticism is toxicity and defending veilguard?man he must've stolen alot of glory for being such a talentless loser
>>741310141I feel sorry for you. Your opinion is identical to someone who's only TV show or movie they ever watched was Cocomelon. With nothing to compare it to, you would believe it was a masterpiece. That is why when you say Fallout 3 was the best and you'll never even try the others, I know your opinion comes from a place of ignroance and inexperience.In other words, you lack intelligence and experience in the world, with most of us here towering over you so highly that we cannot even see that you exist.
>>7413026024>3nothing else is canon.
>>741311093Tim Cain is a confirmed homosexual, which is probably why he is on board with elements of woke LGBTism. However, he is against a lot of the wokeism as well. I'd describe him as an oldfag with a touch of wokeism on the whole. For instance he rejects toxic positivity and believes everything can be critiqued.His game design and development philosophy has all the elements of what made 90s games special even though he was only involved in a handful of hit games.He's probably best described as one of the all time greats of gaming philosophers.
>>741310907>How do you get the items again?just fucking pick them up and talk to the guys in boneyard to upgrade them its not hard>And know where to farm Deathclaws?i killed the 3 that were there, went back to where i could rest until healed after that fight and they respawned so i figured out that i could farm em>Next you're telling me you know all the tricks of keeping your dumb companions in the back and not touching the fucking lasers yup i did it didnt take much to figure out that to stop them following me through the lasers i just tell them to not follow memaybe you just lack basic comprehension noob
>>741311132*tips fedora*
I wouldn't, and that's what no one else did.
>>741311476He's also an out of touch boomer who doesn't understand the modern day rethoric and thinks all negativity is toxic meanwhile because he's friends with them thinks modern game devs can do no wrong even when they outright tell their audience to kill themselves.
>>741311576>>741311762Sort of agree. I've watched a lot of his videos and I don't get the impression he thinks all negativity is toxic. In fact he thinks fair criticism is healthy, as he is quite a critic himself. It's more he thinks that negativity without argument or rationale is toxic. He does seem out of touch on some things but he's got good points about a lot of things that are valid today.
>>741311132I tried Fallout 2 as well but it was ass so I stopped before I could play 2 hours
>>741310957You mean Oblivion assets made Beth's Fallout 3 possible.It doesn't fucking matter. If Troika had won they would've made a better Fallout 3, and even GOATer New Vegas. Again, imagine Black Isle + Troika back together, forming alternate universe Obsidian.VTMB is one of the GOAT RPG, and they still managed to squeeze that one out despite being fucked by publisher Activision and by Valve.>Troika was working with Valve on the Source engine>Valve simulatenously working on developing the engine while working on HL2>periodically sends updates and new engine builds etc to Troika>Activison pushed up deadlines for Troika>also agreement was like they didn't wanna compete with Valve release, so no other games with the same Source engine allowed to release earlier than HL2>this fucked up Troika's work schedule>HL2 was delayed>Activision didn't want to delay too, VTMB must bow match the same release date>somehow froze the update between the two devs, so Troika left with the fucking ALPHA build of a broken shitty early buggy engine>Troika had to rewrite a good chunk of the shitty engine to fix it>forced to release the buggy unfnished game together with HL2>world of difference in fidelity and polish>Troika was cornered and oushed to bankruptcy just couple months after VTMB shoddy releaseTruly the darkest timeline. Imagine Black Isle + Troika in alt universe, forming Obsidian early, and Activison not being a cunt, and Valve sharing the actual full build of HL2 engine. Beth's Gamebyro engine has nothing in fucking Source engine. We could've gotten the GOATED OF ALL GOATED Fallout franchise 3, NV, 4 from this alt-Obsidian on fucking alt-Source engine.
>>741302602Fallout 3Fallout 4Fallout NVOld thus irrelevant FalloutsFallout Shelter>>>>> power gapFallout 76
>>741310009calm down niggerthey went bankrupt for a reason
>>741312807> Troika only made legendary CRPGs.No wonder they went out of business.
>>741313015Because Activision released VtMB on the same day as fucking Half-Life 2, yeah. Their games actually sold pretty good before that.
>>741311502And you know exactly the correct sequences, the correct quests to trigger and do, find Smitty, clear Deathclaw, ask to supply weapons to Blades, and get the weapons upgraded BEFORE the fucking invasion AND KEEP SMITTY ALOVE DURING THE CROSSFIRES right? All blind, not a single guide? And somehow your characters are all min-maxed from you just playing it blind without a single fucking guide/walkthrough. Sure bud.
>>741313220So they were proto Obsidian.> We would be successful if it weren't for those damn publishers.Git gud bitch.
>>741302602NV > 1 > 2 > 3
>>741311502>just fucking pick them up and talk to the guys in boneyard to upgrade them its not hardAs if a beginner, non-guide using player is going to know where everything is the first time.>went back to where i could rest until healed>wasting time in Fallout on your first playthroughShit advice.
>>7413026024=3>1>NV>2>76
Why did all the makers of GoaT CRPGs ,Troika and BIS, go out of business?It is almost like catering to a niche audience is not the best business plan.No wonder Bethesda had to save Fallout.
>>741313495>As if a beginner, non-guide using player is going to know where everything is the first time.i didn't know where it was i just pick it up from a super mutant in necropolis, the power armour was a reward for delivering the holodisk to the brotherhood which was easy>wasting time in Fallout on your first playthroughwhy not, i'd already delivered the water chip by then
Skyrim/Fallout3/4 babbies lol. Don't bother. It's the same shit as always, GTA V babbys, Witcher 3 babbys, BOTW/TOTK babbys. It's like pople who don't read books and aren't knowledgeable and has zero fundamentals on anything and suddenly when they watch Nolan or play Kojima trash and it happens to be their first exposire to certain concepts, they immediately heralded Nolan/Kojima as fucking geniuses, and that means I am genius too! Because I understand the movies/gaymes! Babbys first exposure.Like streamers playing ER as their Souls games and they found you can loop a dungeon and they go "Hyeh!! Guths guyth iths lyke Skyrym guths! There's a shorcutfhs through here guys Skyrim Skyrim guys!" When Fromsoft have been doing it for decades along with Bethesda in their older TES games and Souls/King's Field. Holy fucking fuck.
>>741302858Fallout 1 is the same as Fallout 2, just worse and simpler. And so you should start there.
>>741313886Niche games are the best games. Once games enter the normiesphere they all turn to shit. Case in point, Morrowind to Oblivion to Skyrim, progressively getting shittier as more normies get into the Elder Scrolls.
>>741311762>and thinks all negativityDon't be a bigger faggot than Tim Cain is. He has directly spoken out against toxic positivity multiple times and directly defended negative criticism including defending outright yelling matches between developers and then moving on as being necessary to the process of creating a good product.
>>741313996Could you be any more hipster?
>>7413026021>4>new vegas>2>3>tactics>brotherhood
>>741313403>And you know exactly the correct sequences, the correct quests to trigger and dogo everywhere, talk to everyone, not hard bro>ask to supply weapons to Blades, and get the weapons upgraded BEFORE the fucking invasioni was playing as a good guy character so it was obvious id pick that choice and i didnt upgrade the weapon before the invasionkeeping smitty alive wasn't hard, he was facing off against only a single regulator with a bunch of other townsfolk and knocked that bitch on her arse while i was one shotting every regulator between the eyes with the normal plasma rifle>And somehow your characters are all min-maxed from you just playing it blind without a single fucking guide/walkthrough. making a build i these games isn't difficult i will admit i read up on the special stats and what the best are though and ended up making a sniper character
>>741302602Tranny games, tranny show. You lost.
>>741313915The super mutants in Necropolis don't have plasma rifles you lying dumbfuck.
>>741314665>plasma riflepretty sure i picked one off the mutants in the water processing plant, the wiki says that mutants carry them but either way you can get one from the glow which is another mid game location i went to right after necropolis
>>741314934>the glow which is another mid game location i went to right after necropolis>right after necropolisMan, you either never played the game or had a guide open the whole time.
>>741302602I feel like one of the reasons for why fallout NV is so much fun and no other RPG quite scratches the same itch is that it's one of the few games with two internally coherent but mutually contradictory answers to how to deal with the apocalypse, represented by the two factions NCR and Legion. As such the only other setting that I can think of which could replicate the dynamic would be early Weimar Germany where the main factions are SPD and KPD. Maybe I should make an RPG in that setting...
>>741302868I can put FNV ahead of FO1>>741302858difficult to explain. I like how you start with nothing, but then after a stroke of luck (like seeing a battle between two factions, picking off the remains then looting everything) can change your situation and open up so much of the game to you and you can start exploring a lot more.
>>741315157what do you mean? i found the brotherhood base, they asked me to go to the glow but i save it for later when I was high enough level and figured after recruiting ian, tycho and dogmeat and getting my hands on combat armour with a sniper rifle for long range engagement and combat shotgun for close range all of which i brought grinding gambling i was ready for the glowtell me whats wrong with that
>>741314186And you looked up where / how to get the best weapon/armor and exactly which NPCs to keep alive in that invasion, cool. Also where to farm XPs so you can assign your stats accordingly so can hit your sniper lazzorrs shot to 1-2 hit the infamously fucking hard Mariposa bunker. You also didn't save scum when there's like 4-5 muties surrounding you, and you completed a turn and now it's their turn and one of them coulz easily vaporize 1+2 of your party, and the other one with the fucking RPG could essentially gibbs and glibs your entire party in a single hit. You never save-scummed once in Mariposa.
>>741314067He also went and kept saying everything is so soo toxic its all toxic when he made a video defending veilguard. Its like the retard who whne two kids are assaulting each other on the playground to the point they're bleeding goes make friends be nice to each other, don't stab one another.he's a game dev cunt through and through JUST LIKE YOU
>>741315426>And you looked up where / how to get the best weapon/armori had indeed heard that combat armor was what i should be buying and that the combat shotgun and sniper where the best guns in the game aside from the turboplas and alien blaster from online discourse i read years ago on here but it wasn't like i was following a guide i just remembered the turboplas being talked about in these threads as an op weapon and when i got it i was like fuck yeah i didn't even know it was an upgrade>and exactly which NPCs to keep alive in that invasion, cool. i always would reload a save if a named character died plus i had to give him parts to fix something but i didn't need to and cleared the fight the first time through without a scratch>Also where to farm XPs so you can assign your stats accordingly like I said I found out I could farm the deathclaws myself and grinded like 5 levels while listening to music>You also didn't save scum when there's like 4-5 muties surrounding you, and you completed a turn and now it's their turn and one of them coulz easily vaporize 1+2 of your party, and the other one with the fucking RPG could essentially gibbs and glibs your entire party in a single hit. a lot of the enemies you can bait into using up all their ap as they come across a corner and instakill them, their rpgs do nothing as wellalso you don't need to fight them all at once I ran past quite a fewlike i said i left my party behind and did it solo, it was easyyou're just bad bro, i didn't die once the game isn't hard when you have armour that resists explosions and everything else does hardly any damage and you can just one shot a mutant in the eyes
>>741313423Did you miss the part about how their previous games sold pretty well? Selling 70k under a large publisher like Activision is downright unnatural when their games usually sold 100k-200k copies within a year or so (Fallout included).
>>741315362>what do you mean?>right after necropolislollmao even
>>741316549whats the problem pal
>>741302602>Main StoryNV > 1 > 2 > 3 > 4 > 76>Sidequests2 > NV > 1 > 4 > 3 > 76>Combat2 > 1 > 76 > 4 > NV > 3>Overall Tone1 > NV > 2 > 3 > 76 > 4
1 > NV > 2
>>741302602NV > 1 > 2 > 3 > 4
>>741305380It looked good on paper, I just think they should've stuck to 2D / prerendered graphics. The 3D of the time was fairly primitive and would age like milk.
Oldfag Fallout fans have complete dogshit taste, the old games are unplayable tripe. Fallout 4 is the best Fallout game, writing is for books and anybody who cares about it should read instead of playing video games.
>>741302602NV > the rest
>>7413026021>NV>2>3>Tactics>4>70 dicks2 is just far too goofy for my tastes. of course, old world blues is just as bad if not worse. but ignoring that shite
>>741302602Fallout 2 > Fallout 1 >> Fallout New Vegas >> Fallout 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fallout 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fallout 76Haven't played tactical yet
>>7413026021 = 2 > NV > Tactics > 3 > 4 > 76
>>741306903yeah basically this1 and 2 are alright, but it's a lot more engaging to have a game be in first person with real time combat. I probably would've preferred them like ten years ago before I developed certain preferences3 is one of the most lifeless, dreadful games I've ever playeddidn't bother with the rest
>>741302602I'm crossing my fingers obsidian dies it's a cancer
>>74132426476 is mmo garbage
>>741302602Storywise: FO1 > FO: NV > FO2 > FO3 > FO4gameplay mechanics wise: FO4 (with +100 mods) > FO: NV > FO3 > FO2 > FO1overall: FO: NV > FO1 > FO2 > FO4 > FO3
>>741324497you're totally coked out
>>741302858Play.The.Game.You have pre-made characters already and can customize them if you want, just take 5 minutes and readThat's all.
>>741323894>the old games are unplayable tripethey are playable and easy but it's more like a Visual Novel at that point.Pick up: Rapidshot doesnt matter if you cant target the head or the eyes or their cocks, pick up Gifted. SPECIAL: 10 AGI Skill Tags: Unarmed, Sneak, whatever else you want. Now every punch you do costs 1 AP and you got like 9 AP. Everytime its your rollslop turn you will deal more damage that anyone else and the game will be a cakewalk and you will have to reload very few times.yea this youtuber is kinda ugly but he is right:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnvCeuE8hdY
>>741324919>but it's more like a Visual NovelMy policy with visual novels is to read books instead.
this game is fun with tons of mods
so )do stupid faggots but now how to exploit the game?
yeah faggot butt
I seriously want to see obsidian die
>>741324704The Massa is an interesting villian and its cool you can prove to him why his plan is flawed and he commits suicide.In FO4 the Institute trusts you so much its retarded. And in FO3 Colonel Autumn is like 67 IQFO4 however has lots of mods to make the shooting fun af with leaning with your Q and E and realistic damage, scarce ammo mods and gunfights feel threatening af. Sneak with a Disciples Knife still breaks the game tho espcially if you savescum often. Also you can impregnate Piper, Cait and Curie with mods.NV it can be similar when heavily modded but you are in a setting where the story is more interesting and how the story ends is more modular and up to the player than in FO4 or 3. Also you can impregnate Veronica, Rose Sharon Cassidy and that foid at the Vault Hotel with mods and you can play with the Shojo mod to be an anime final fantasy looking shota that fucks women older than him and you can make up a story on your head that he was a Great Khan or Legion or Brotherhood of Steel because those two factions train child soldiers
NV => 1 > 2
>>741325332Not happening in the near future because unlike other Microsoft devs they actually release games.
>>741325332they havent been making good games recently so they possibly will
>>741325186which game? what fallout?
>>741302858its a dice roll slop game so in order to have the least save and loads presses just make an overpowered unarmed build, unarmed is crazy in the old fallouts the Rapidshot trait affects it. It's retardedly strong you got the ultimate weapon with you at all times: brass knuckles or yourself without weapons if you want to carry 1 kg less of weight for whatever reason.
>>741302602NV = 1 > 2 > 3 > 4
>>741304760>NV especially so.derivative of what exactly?
>>7413282393
>>741302602TTW > FO1 > FO2
>>7413026021 > NV > 2 > 3 > 4 > Tactics > 76 > BoS
NV> 4> 3> 1> 76> Tactics I haven't played 2 or BoS all. For the longest while I would have put 3 over 4 but I figure you get most of the good stuff from it in NV and I am now 100% secure in my love of 4. It's one of my favorite digital worlds to inhabit.Just to be an even bigger fag, if I'm being honest with myself 76 probably ranks higher
>>741302602Only played the first two games actually. Played the GoG versions.
>>741302602I want to say Fallout 1 is the best but the game is way too short and there's not much to do in the world
>>741302602>1Best main story>2An improvement on the first game in most areas>3Best exploration>NVBest game in general>4Best at being bad
>>741302602I loved Fallout 1I loved Fallout 2 but with major reservationsI tried Fallout TacticsI liked Fallout 3I loved New VegasI enjoyed Fallout 4I haven't played 76, BoS, and Shelter
>>741313886Same (((reason))) as most other problems in our society.
>>741302602Somewhere between rank and stinky. Props to Bethesda for bringing a dead franchise back to life though, not many can successfully do that.
>>741304760>>741329002Quality bait.
>>741331720I hope it dies again judging from it's current state
>>741331547Pretty accurate
shan't be raising speechshan't be raising sneakshall be using violence
>>7413026021>2>NV>3>4power gap after 2 and after NV >>741302858just play the game, it's not very complicated. having at least 8 agility would make your life easier, and running away from fights is a valid strategy
>>741302602NV > 2 >= 1 > Power Gap > 3 > Power Gap + 1 > 4 I haven't even touched 76, but if I had to guess, I'd need several power gaps just to place it.
In 3 you can be assigned clinical test subject on the G.O.A.T and I was just imagining an cocky female vault dweller being humiliated and corrected by having to be examined naked and having to preform all kinds of lewd experiments.
>>741302602A lot of people will say 1 or 2 at the top to seem old school cool, but for my money, New Vegas is the only good game. 1 is often worshipped for what it represents moreso than what it actually is. We all know the flaws to 2. New Vegas delivers on its promises, and has decent moment to moment gameplay to boot.
>>741333331>New Vegas delivers on its promisesand is faithful in all it does. Amen.
>>741331547>Best at being badHot Diggity Redux Mod anon that and the leaning with Q and E fixed FO4 for me and made it feel funwww.youtube.com/watch?v=L1CeKkhQX6I
>>741331473fo1 took me 30 hours to complete what are you talking about
>>741302602>Modded:NV > 1 > 2 > 4 > 3>Vanilla:1>2>NV>3>4
>>741333510yeah, objectively correct
>>741331473My overall stance is that F1 is the least bad game in the series. It's simple, to the point, and has the fewest screw-ups by a good margin. It's also, however, beaten by other games in the series in several areas. Not least of all being the quality and complexity of its quests, which I think 2 and NV overall both surpass.
>>741333510There its a mod for 2 that its the entire 1st game with the second mechanic so your rank its wrong
>>741302602
>>741334797
1,2,nvrest are not fallout games but some wierd reddit spacemarine vs green orcs trash collection sim with awful writing
>>741334886The only real Fallout game is 1. 2 is retarded.
NV > 1 = 2 > Tactics > POWER GAP > 4 > 3 > 76 > Shelter > BoS
>>741302602I have played to completion the following:3, New Vegas, 1and partially played the following:Tactics, shelter and 21 is the best 3 was just okay but lacking in depthNV is trying to do a lot but it's lacking in certain ways that matter like the hoover dam battle (fans are diehard and will forgive all its flaws though)
Nothing beats fallout 2 new reno atmosphereNV come close with new vegas but its like a pg 13 version of it
>>7413350271 lacks in a lot of ways, and people forgive all of its flaws. It just feels like people put on huge blinders with that game to me.
>>741313886Tim talked about Troika on his channel. The company was run by three game people doing business/administrative stuff (which none of them really wanted to do) in addition to game stuff, if they'd hired someone else to handle that full-time they might have survived.
>>741302826Based.
>>741302602tl;dr Modded 4 > allOG FO was painful to play (time limit in the first one, really?), 3 reinvented the IP, NV had some really cool moments, but modded FO4 is so beyond everything else in the franchise it's a mistake to even compare. Fuck, even the process of modding FO4 is more fun than the slog that is FO2 :/ Idk what people saw in the back in the day, but thank fuck Bethesda got a hold of it.>haven't played Tactics or 76
1>nv>2
>>741334797this Playing a woman in 2 is just an endless "whamen bad" joke. Also "New Californa"? "The Frontier"? I don't much care about NV, but are those good?
>>741338095this nigga didn't play FO1what a poser
>>741303757nah, 3 has its charm... just a completely worthless story.3's charm is in its world layout and level design.as usual with post-morrowind bethesda, the main worth is in the side stuff.
>>741335027nv fans aren't diehard like that, you just saw shitflinging that originates from one retard trying to shit up any fallout thread he comes across.
>>741338804the story is the same as 1 tho, and it's fitting for a post-apocalyptic world - get clean water. Makes sense, which is good enough.
>>741338873no, its not the same story.you took a summary of the primary objective of fallout 3 and compared it to the initial objective of 1.
>>741338920of course it's not the exact same thing, but it's similar in spirit - bunker baby needs to get water for his people, adapts to a monstrous world where people do unspeakable things just to survive. Details vary, but it's essentially the same. I'm happy Bethesda got their hands on the franchise, if it wasn't for 3 nobody would've cared about Fallout in the year of our Lord 2026, except the 27 hardcore fans of 1 & 2.
>>7413026021=3(absolute cinema)>4=NV(goofy but somewhat grounded)>>>76=tactics(story is as bad as 4/NV but gameplay is worse)>2(Reddit Tier trash)>Boss(Edgy Reddit Tier trash)
>741339124weak ragebait
>>741339149unnecessary cope
>>741333331>1 is often worshipped for what it represents moreso than what it actually isFallout is held in high regard because of what it is; a great role-playing game.>>741337216There are more people saying that others forgive all its flaws because it's old rather than people who actually do so. And it's nonsense anyway. If it's great, it's great.
>741339260weaker ragebait
>>741338095>time limit in the first one, really?That's a good thing. Games where the plot talks about urgency should have that urgency represented in gameplay.
>>741302602its funny I can predict people are going to insist only the first one is good this is how it is with most franchises you guys like. >durr actually all fallout attempts at humor are wacky random bullshit>so 3, 4, new vegas, 2, all having humor in them are bad actually>so uhh only fallout 1 is good :)
>>741338095True but plebs havent seen how moddable FO4 has become. NV is a close second tho. NV is already by default good af and you can put good mods on top of it. But i still think FO4 modding scene at this point is superior to NV.
ok so based on itt>fallout 1 is really short and easy its actually super simple and brief>also its insanely difficult and save scum focused with random dice rolls and you have to read the manual
>>741338095There is one problem. You must never update FO4 ever. It will fuck up half your mods.Oh you got Piper and Cait preggers too bad update made her abort the baby its no longer in her womb!! RIP!And you need to downgrade your fallout 4 version and load a previous save.
>>7413400431.10.163 is the only viable version, everything else is full of AIDS & failure. I mean, I put 350 mods in my game, made em all work perfectly with each other, and it bloated the game to 200GB from the original 35GB. It was so meticulously perfected that I cannot wait to forget the game enough so I can start a new run ...v.1.11.221 is 120GB and it has NOTHING added to it, nevermind that no mods work for it ... idk, call it normiebait, 'cause Todd wants a new car or smt
>>741339935It doesn't feel like there are a lot of good NV quest mods. I've played a number of them by now. Most I'd describe as okayish, but not really worth taking space in the load order after one go. Only one I've kept around is Stealthtenza
>>7413026022>1>NV>TTW>Tactics>Fanfiction
>741339885even weaker ragebait
>>741340190I rolled back to 1.11.191not the optimal one but only the initial download is 200 gb you dont keep em it returns to being a light game with like around 35 gb of size. the good part is that todd was generous enough to give us the Enclave Hellfire armor and the Enclave FO3 armor. I always liked the Hellfire personally, now the strongest armor aint that Nuka Cola Quantum one. It's the Hellfire. Idk if that side quest of fucking around with the Enclave was in 1.10.163 maybe it is.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWB8yVk7P50>>741340549yeah and that must be because the stealth armor is so useful and it gives that OP invisibility field like the Chinese Sneak Suit in FO3
>>741339885the story of FO1 feels very realistic in how it is structured within ficitonal universe ofc. FO1 teaches you that you cannot be well natured, you cannot trust anyone in the fucking wasteland everyone is looking out for themselves, for their faction. The Brotherhood are assholes too, they send you on a suicide mission without thinking you are going to return alive so you can get some söyence for them.The only well natured person in that game I think is Aradesh the half pajeet guy you meet in Shady Sands you shoudlnt lie to him, he knows whats up he recognizes your vault suit he just pretends you dont know what he knows and vice versa.Everyone else is scum for the most part and the Followers of The Apocalypse are idealist retards.
>>741341005>yeah and that must be because the stealth armor is so useful no, not really. Stealth field only activates at low health, and the DT is whatever. I use TotNW and it makes the armor look like a joke. I like the mod because it nails the spaghetti western showdown at high noon feel while also still maintaining Fallout's sci-fi aspects. It's just a cool quest
>>741302602NV = 2 > 1 > 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3
>>741339981The difficulty slider of FO1 is the AGI stat. The lower the harder it is because less turns. The higher the easier it is because more turns.Rapid Fire is overpowered too but plebs dont know they think it only applies to guns because its named rapid FIRE but it also affects melee and fist weapons.
>>741302602New VegasFallout 1Fallout 2The rest aren't really worth playing
>>741341005It's the 4 best quest mods for FO4, the Enclave ones ... too bad, because I don't care about the Enclave ;dd I'll try 'em all on the next playthrough, the 'Depravity' one was brilliant
>>741341760The worst FO4 quest mod i have installed was a sex mod Slaves of The Commonwealth holy shit that was annoying badly written, not sexy and retarded and to top it off it doesnt let you enslave NPCs like with the Mesmetron in FO3 which was fun as fuck.The real slavery mod is Human Resources: Alternative Enslavement Method 1.2.0 that shit is fun. Now the raiders that surrender to you, you can enslave them instead of letting them go hostile 20 seconds after like the retards they are. Enslaving NPCs is a good prison system better than having to kill everything
>>741302602Fo3 > Fo4 > Fo1 > Fo2 > FNV
>>741302858max agility and your combat skill of choice plus have a reasonable amount of intelligence for skill points, and read what each stat does
>>741342175You deal with slavers, anon, it's a quest mod that doesn't add any mechanics ... if anything, it REQUIRES all the mechanics to be added separately, and that was the hardest thing I've ever done in FO4. Hooly, when I remember what a fucking ordeal that was - the highest highs & the lowest lows, to make everything from LL work. When it finally clicked it was ... a masterpiece. 'Slavers' itself traumatized me - I found it very hot, quite enjoyable, but extremely dark at times, and the feeling itself of reducing the most powerful character in the Wasteland to a mere breeding sow ... idk, it was a complete change of pace, bit of a needed fresh air. Still, it took me two weeks to beat, and I can only recommend it. I'll never play it again, but everyone should play it once. Best part? The music. Nevermind the sexy stuff or the story (both very, very good), but the music? Hoooly, it introduced me to a whole new genre, dark synthwave ... my playlist is something else entirely after Magnavolt ;dd
>>741339981some people are just used to the 3d fallouts maybe? where you can just press w towards the questmarker and turn your brain off
>>741342449Slavers of The Commonwealth fucking sucked. And it wasnt hot. I was not roleplaying as Nora anyway and the plot is extremely retarded about the big bad being an ex institute guy with a split personality. It was just stupid man. I couldnt take it seriously. And I told the mod maker to go fuck himself unironically because you cannot enslave, its a mod where YOU get enslaved. So all the fun of FO3 of being a radier enslaving the commonwealth is actually in the Human Resources mod. I'm larping as a raider conquering the commonwealth not as vanilla ass shit ass nora with a lawyer degree that doesnt work in a hostile lawless environment.
>>741302602Wasteland (THE Brian Fargo original)FalloutFallout 2Fallout 3 (Van Buren)Fallout New Vegas (Wild Wasteland perk turned off)Fallout BOS (the one where Vault Dweller from first game have his stats at 9999)Fallout Tactics
>>741342449you probably made the mod if you are the mod author kys it was the most tedious fucking dumb mod i ever played. Delete the fucking mod or put in the title that its not a mod where you enslave, instead you are forced into your shitty questline with shit tier writing.
>>741343367>>741343435read the description next time, bozos ;dd
>>741343582how about you put there that its not a fucking slavery mod like the Legion one or the FO3 one that are fun as fuck. Your mod is shit. The FO3 slavery mod is one of the funnest coolest mods ever there is some austrian accent guy in paradise falls and he just processes slaves and you can even get the Antagoizer as companion and you can fuck her if you want when you enslave her. Period, simple. Easy. Fun.https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/9497
>>741339981It's easy but sometimes the game just decides that it's your time to die with a crit and there's nothing you can do about it
>>741339981I just tried the build anons and that youtuber recommended and modified it to be even better and yeah its overpowered af. Dont take gifted take heavy handed instead. Rapid fire is fucking butt broken. I literally just took 1 damage in the 1st section of the game. The best stats turns out are the physical stats in FO1: AGI, STR, ENDintelligence is just so you can repair that power armor in the BoS base and wear it immediately and so you level up your skills faster aka so you can max out Unarmed sooner and just rape the game.here is the stats without level ups and with the traits selected and the tagged skills.
>>741343885High Luck actually makes it pretty much impossible for you to get critical failures.
>>741338243Don't know about New California but The Frontier is actually really good.Honestly I feel like the devs starting a war by calling the Enclave fascist is what led to their downfall when the Sneedclave came at them full force.
>>741302602All of them > Fallout 76
>>741343985why the low 1% crit rate? because at level 16 you get the Slayer perk and in FO1 and 2 it makes every single melee or unarmed attack crit regardless of LUK. So is FO1 and FO2 the only games where LUK isnt the most busted stat? Well yeah in a way. Its good because crit is always good but its not needed to crit. What you need to get Slayer is 8 STR 8 AGI and 80% unarmed (no you dont need melee for some reason) thats 100% crit rate at 1 LUK which is retardedly busted late gamehttps://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Slayer_(Fallout)
>>741344004yeah but high luck is not needed if you a min-maxing autist using unarmed. Slayer is 100% crit. The grind there is till level 16-18 tho. Which means you can already rape the Master or the Enclave easily.I'm surprised that unarmed is so strong in the early FOs that turns out that Gifted is not the best trait. It's Rapid Fire + Heavy Handed.
>>741343380>Ranking a game that doesn't exist What do you call this level of delusion? Not that I'm surprised with fallout fans. We've got classic fallout fans that never played fo1 or fo2 so having Van Buren fans isn't that far from the norm.
>>741344067>because at level 16 you get the Slayer perkNot gonna happen unless you grind at a super specific place.>>741344110Read the post I'm replying to; the point is that what stats are useful greatly depends on what character build you're aiming for. No shit that STR, END and AGI are the most important thing for a physical character, that doesn't mean they're the best stats in the game.
>741344176yet another ragebait fail
>>741344250No they are. Because of how busted Rapid Fire and unarmed builds are in general you wont struggle with any content in the game at any stage in the game even if you have enemies that snipe you can very quickly catch up to them and just pummel them in 1 or 2 turns. with 10 agi, 10 end, 10 str. It's retarded strong. The chad meathead athlete build is the most overpowered build in the game through the early, mid and late game. Only in the late game it "falls off" in damage arguably. Because the turbo plasma caster deals a lot fo damage. But this unarmed build can attack 10 times... So... Not really. See what I mean?Rapid Fire is busted af, then you take the extra HtH attacks perk and then all punching actions cost 1 AP. You got 10 AP. Action Boy gives you +1... So 11 punches. It gets crazy retarded. It completely finnesses over all the action economy of the game.
>>741344250>>741344809would you guys recommend anything more than the unofficial patch version 1.35 for a first-time playthrough of fallout 1?
>>741341238This but replace 2 with 1 and 4 with 3
>>741333510What mods should I get for NV to make it better than 1?
>>741345134idk what verison of FO1 can play the mod Fallout: Nuevo Mexico (New Mexico) but a lot of people have said that mod is fun. For a 2nd playthru other than that no I didnt care about what version I was playing. I killed the master and got my gamer cred now I can say I beat FO1. I didnt even see the faggot I sneaked in and rigged the nuke to explode and left. Modern games wouldnt ever do that they have to show you the Big Bad!!! or all that dev time and animator development money wont be appreciated!!! boohoo!
>>741345134For a first playthrough I guess Fallout Fixt
>every jerkoff on the internet says that 1 or 2 were the best and 3 or 4 were the worst>1 sold 600,000 copies>2 sold 120,000 copies>3 sold 12,400,000 copies>4 sold 25,000,000 copies
>>741343380Powerful
>>741345314As if though that means anything, dumb fuck,
>>7413416263 I'd say is also worth playing at least once. 4 is not worth playing through unless you're really interested or something
>>741334983Deimos Art really is the gift that keeps on giving.
>>741345370It does. Nobody played that shit, you're like Earthbound fans.
>>741345431>projecting
>>7413453894 is the most funIt just feels really good sprinting around the ruins, chaining headshots and nade throws, playing Minecraft in the settlements
>>741345473What do words even mean to youLiterally two hundred people purchased and played 4 for every one person that purchased and played 2Interplay went the fuck out of business because nobody was playing Fallout
>>741302602New Vegas > 1 > 2
>>741302858Fallout 1 is designed to be played multiple times. You're not going to see everything in a single playthrough. Infact you're probably miss 70% of the story on the first playthrough
>>741345516And?
>>7413026021 > 3 > 4 > 2 > tactics > brotherhood of steel > what ever the next one will be called(5) > Skyrim.
>>7413026021 > NV > 2 > 3 > 4 > TacticsHaven't played 76. I would have originally put New Vegas at first place but recently I've replayed 1 a couple times and it's growing on me a ton.
>>741302602Starfield > Old Blood > Evil Within 2 > Doom > Morrowind > Quake Champions
1 = 2Tactics as a daring spin-off that you can't really compare gameplay-wise to the other two since it's a diff genre>Inb4 what about the restNot Fallout
>>7413026023 > Brotherhood of Steel > Tactics > 1 > 4 > 2 > Troon VegasFallout 2 is extremely reddit. 3 has a ton of flaws but it's objectively the best post apocalyptic game ever created.
>>74134570276 is garbage now.It was never 'great' but the original story before wastelanders was alright. post-wastelanders the map has changed, the old MQ is sort of still there but it tries to veer you off it at every path.I genuinely hate wastelanders and even moreso these new 'responders' in muh whitespring.
>>741345778Powerful ranking
>>741345794Jeet.
>>7413457943 is absolute fucking shit and only people that got introduced to fallout through it and havent played it in 15 years say otherwise
2>>NV>1>>>>>>>3 Haven't played the others2 is one of my favorite RPGS ever and I consider it a basically perfect sequel.I can't really fuck with NV's gameplay but the writing is strong enough to carry it despite that.1 just feels way too lean. I like a lot of the ideas present but there just isn't enough of it.3 just sucks. Tunnels are miserable. Wasteland is ugly. Story is bad.
>>741302602i like 2 and most of its total conversion mods a lot1 is okay but a bit too simplei really dislike 3 and new vegasi haven't played the rest
>>741345989Based, some of the writing in 2 has problems but as a whole it's probably the best RPG in the series
>>741345576With the Chad build you can easily clear everything 1st try, its that overpowered.
Do Fallout 1 and 2 have a radio like in the other games that I can listen to?
>>741346194no, only the intro movies have licensed music
>>741346227Fuck that sucks. Is the ambience at least good?
>>741346194no
>>741346248>Fuck that sucks. Is the ambience at least good?its the best in Fallout by far, its immersive af and spooky.The classic games are more somber in nature it wasnt really bout being retrofuturistic atom punk and FO4 frankly over did the atompunk shit and made it cartoony.FO1 is serious and realistic in a lot of ways except for the pipboy of course. Thats straight up from 50s cartoons.
>>741346248it's thematically fitting with tribal and industrial vibes but gets old quickly for me.
>>741346194No. Radio was one few really good ideas Bethesda had
>>741346248The Glow ambient shits on every modern Fallout ambient track.
>>741346367i mean the ambient tracks are the same that can be heard in New Vegas so... yeah. likely he has already heard them. If he doesnt like them he can play his own music in the background anyway its not like running FO1 and 2 takes a lot or Ram none at all. Shit is lighter than a flash game from NewGrounds even.
>>741346248Yes it's amazinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cLRP-QQxn4
>>741346418There's still a lot of great classic tracks not used in New Vegas, plus in classic Fallout the tracks are much more prominent and dominating
>>741346248The ambience tracks are legit incredible.
>>741346418Most 'people' out there listen only to the radio the moment they can access it.
>>741302858How does this character seem? I tried to emphasize agility, I'll upgrade it to later (if I'm able to). >>741346312Well that's good to know. I hated how 4 was unrealistic. It didn't feel like an actual game for some reason. What a piece of hot shit.
>>741346549Seems fine to me
>>7413026023 = NV > 1 > 2 = 4 > 76
>>741345587and you're a retarded contrarian addicted to feeling special based on nothing, but your divorced from reality delusions. "And" nothing - stay safe & prosper, get a job & a shower, the usual
>>7413026021>NV>2>4>3>76>Tactics>Shelter>BOS
>>741346549are you playing 1 already? at least play it with FO1in2 so that you get the improvements of FO2 engine in FO1... like pushing NPCs out of doorways
>>741346248The ambience tracks are the same as in New Vegas, just random spoopy noises for the most part.
>>741346549also, btw, you don't really need charisma. feel free to redistribute your points.
>>741345431I was literally here, on /v/, discussing Fallout while Morrowind was still the most current Bethsda RPG. You are an underage faggot.
>>741346724Is it like in NV where Charisma is completely useless? Should I just put it at 1?
>>741346549it's fine, you can definitely finish the game with itif you want the broken minmax build though, charisma is pretty much useless in 1 because it doesn't affect the companion limit (it does in 2) and there's pretty much no reason not to take gifted as you'll get the skill points back easily from the boost you get with high int if something filters you, it'll probably be the UI, which is simple but might confuse you if you aren't used to cRPGs. stick with it, you'll get used to it
>>741346778yes, you can modify/use mods so that your companion limit is like in 2 to make charisma more useful.. but there's also only 3 companions anywayjust dump charisma and go for persuasion/barter instead.max dex, strength if you want to punch, and perception if you want to shoot.i've said enough, enjoy
>>741302602I wouldn't.
>>741346549Do the Giga Chad build >>741343985You dont need gifted but whatever its up to you. Personally I think Heavy Handed will give you more consistent damage but you do you maybe you dont want to be a Chad martial artist that can punch 10 times in 1 go. Rapid Fire is busted, use it.
>>741302602NV>2>1>>>>>power gap>>>>>3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>4
>>741346549Charisma is an useless stat in all Fallouts it's the dump stat except in 2 (you can have more companions following you) and 4 (your settlement growth depends on charisma)
>>741344067>Slayer perklolPlay the game instead of thinking about it while reading the wiki.
>>741347165I already did but I never beat it before with an extremely optimized build thats why I made CHAD. I beat it as Natalia the first time the default Russian spy sneak girl I didnt even see the master I sneaked in and rigged to blow tf up the fucking atom bomb and escaped. BAM! Finished the game without seeing the final boss. Not many games ahve that confidence these days , they want you to see everything.
>>741347081>Charisma is an useless stat in all FalloutsIn Fallout 1 it gives you a very good starting point for Speech (get Ian immediately for free) on top of good starting reaction with NPCs (makes it harder to fuck up in dialogue).Of course it's completely worthless if you're theorycrafting combat monsters and never play the game with different character archetypes.
>>741347027Is luck and percepotion actually needed in the game? Is it completely viable to play the game without them?
>>741347369They are completely useless for unarmed builds which are potentially the best in FO1. Perception only affects hit chance from afar with guns or in dark areas like caves thats why you start the game with flares, you can throw those at enemies so see better then shoot them with your gun in a cave.it raises hit chance % only with ranged weaponsLuck is crits, its useful in most fallouts but because the Slayer perk exists and that makes absolutely every punch or melee hit crit even at 1 Luck what the hell is luck for in an unarmed character. Just get extra Endurance and INT to level the skills faster... Done.
>>741347240>extremely optimized buildBetter Criticals is better than maxing out AGI/END/STR. Drugs will max out those attributes for you on the hard fights.Like the other anon said Slayer just doesn't happen. Exactly like Sniper is a reward for overachievers who can already walk all over the end game enemies.
>>741347482I plan to overkill the game with Chad tho thats what Chad is meant for. He has to be peak human physical performance. I plan to run out the days too after finishing the game and see what happens I think the game just ends it doesnt let you play past 500 days after you beat it.
>>741347369>luckIn-game difficulty setting. Low luck sucks due to increased crit failures at low levels and you lose out on the best combat perk, high luck gives you the unique random encounters used to shitpost about Fallout 1 being wacky.>percepotionSequence is the most important derived attribute.
>>741302868my rating as well
>>741347596>ESL tricking another ESLloli mean FO1 is better experienced blind but that build is suboptimal. The Chad build would trivialize the game too much tho starts a god ends a god just punching everything 10 times because it costs 1 action point a punch from level 6 onward.
>>741347479>>741346931>>741346914Thanks for the replies, my new character looks like this. The game should be much easier, right?I'm considering getting the Bloody Mess trait instead of the Fast Shot trait, would that be worth it?
>>741347731yeah way fucking easier just start fuck it you will still need to save scum in some fights but go right on
>>741347731Fast Shot is too broken and you cannot laugh at the fact that you can roleplay a nut shooter or shoot the eyes use Bloody Mess whatever.
>>741347479>what the hell is luck for in an unarmed characterYou either tank luck or not, pick jinxed and meme on everyone else.
>>741347815no because then i cannot minmax unarmed damage by picking heavy handed. altho jinxed is based for roleplaying. And using this build it would still be overpowered af.
>>741344809Like I said, read the post I replied to. If you find yourself having to savescum because of critical failures, that means your build isn't as good as you think, because Luck in FO1 actually affects how many critical failures and successes will happen in your playthrough.>with 10 agi, 10 end, 10 str. It's retarded strongNo different from saying that having high perception and high luck will allow your character to be a critical killer machine throughout the game. It's a neat build, but not the be all, end all of combat builds that you're selling it as. And planning a playthrough on getting Slayer or Sniper is most definitely not something you should recommend to starting players, because it requires a lot of grinding and is boring as shit. Most playthrough will end at level 12 at most.>>741347369If you want to shoot, then they're necessary. If not, then perception is negligible, but Luck is important for critical failures and successes, and not just in combat.
>>741347731Bloody Mess is annoying.
>>741347928nigga i went to a raider camp and took 1 damage through it all. Chad dodged everything and killed everyone in 1 or 2 turns max just by punching everyone repeatedly 10 times and with extra turns to spare to move onto the next target or away to sneak again. It's that fucking overpowered. Fuck Luck. Fuck rolling dice you dont have to with this build its consistently strong af through ALL the game. 10 fucking attacks. I dont give a fuck about your turbo plasma caster that shit cannot deliver 10 hits in 1 turn.
Why are pajeets so obsessed with Fallout 3?
>>741346661Lol
>>741348102Megaton reminds them of their home village. Nearby British garrison who won't let them in included.
What do the difficulties do to affect the game? Should I play on normal for a first playthrough?Should I turn the combat speed up?
>>741348176>Should I play on normal for a first playthrough?Yes>Should I turn the combat speed up?Yes
>>741302602F2 > F1 > Tactics.There are no more Fallout games.
>>741348169jej
>>741348176>What do the difficulties do to affect the game?Increase/reduce skills. Normal is the way to go.>Should I turn the combat speed up?You can change it on the fly, play around with it to see what feels good.
>>741348102Jeets love slop
>be me>playing fallout 2>starting to understand the game and combat>successfully kill a squad of bandits loaded up with guns and ammo>go to sell the spares>literally nowhere does it say you need to take cash from a merchant's inventory to make a sale>effectively donate a bunch of shotguns to a store and get nothing>forgot to stagger saves like a retard, autosave is after i've given my shit away for frer>lose all interest and drop the game forever>>741302602
>>741347479Unarmed builds were so fun in Fallout 1/2. To be fair they were fun in Fallout 3 and NV as well, they were the worst in Fallout 4.
>>741347998I hated how Bloody Mess forced me to kill the overseer in the ending even though I was roleplaying as a morally good character for the playthrough
>>741348375You never played the game but I won't say what made it obvious.Back to shitposting class.
>>741348176>Game difficultyOn Hard, your character skills will start at a much lower number.>Combat difficultyStronger enemies that hit more.>Should I play on normal for a first playthrough?>Should I turn the combat speed up?Sure.The guy that keeps gargling on Chad's cock in this thread is playing on Easy btw.
How do I navigate through the map? Should I go to vault 13?
>>741348739What?
>>741348739Vault 13 will be closed until several days have passed. Go to the direction of Vault 15, speak with people, gather information, and don't forget that you can barter with people and ask using keywords by clicking the button on the talk interface. Enjoy the game anon.
1 is so much better than 3 and 4.
>>741348807I got to Vault 15 and saw an elevator shaft telling me that I need rope. Maybe it's in Shady Sands? Or one of the Merchants sells rope?
>>741350010Yes, you can buy a rope from Seth (the gate guard) and you can also find one in the shack next to the crops
>>741302602FNV>F1>F2
>>741323894Sad & Pathetic
>>741348462>forced me to kill the overseer in the ending even though I was roleplaying as a morally good characterThis is one of my favorite defining memories of playing F1 as a baby gamer eons ago that always made self insert paladins in CRPGs. It's such a rugpull you can't help but laugh if it hits you unspoiled
1 > 4 > 2 > 3=NV > BoS > Tactics
>>7413026021>2 didn't play the rest because i'm not a fag
>>741302602The best thing that could have happened to Fallout would be if it had gotten lost in the shuffle of corporate buyouts and the IP became unusable. Then in the mid 2010s it could have gotten a sincere spiritual successor instead of people thinking they were going to get one with Wasteland when in reality it was way more of an actual sequel to Wasteland than anyone expected.
>>741348807I got to vault 15, got down to level 3, and there's a bunch of pathways covered by rocks, now where do I go?
>>7413026022 > 1 > New vegas > 3 > Tacticshaven't played 4 yet, but assuming it's shit
>>741350010Yeah. There is a reason why the game puts Shady Sands on the way to Vault 15.This also teaches you to think ahead, because Fallout 1 loves to "gotcha" you if you are not paying attention.The Glow is the most striking example.
>>741350010just for future reference in any RPG made before the year 2000, have rope
>>741353091The tutorial has ended, now (You) have to figure it out yourself.>speak with people, gather information, and don't forget that you can barter with people and ask using keywords by clicking the button on the talk interface
>>741353129>The Glow is the most striking example.If you are playing a smart character, you better think ahead.If you're playing a dumb retard, one of the two guards at the entrance will take pity on you.Even if you go there without protection for the BoS quest, unless you descend all the way or wait inside, you won't accrue enough radiations to become dangerously irradiated.
>>741302826>>741302858>>741302868Anyone that likes 2 is a faggot redditoid that enjoys rick and morty quips in every single fucking dialogue interaction and immersion breaking wacky talking animal bullshit, NPCs literally telling you that this is a video game and other nonsense. True Fallout fans enjoy Fallout 1, 3 and NV.
>>741353324you won't accrue enough radiations to become dangerously irradiatedI'm pretty sure the area around the Glow on the world map are heavily irradiated also. I remember dying almost immediately when I forgot to take some pills.
>>741353275The tutorial didn't end for some reason, even though I cleared the vault.
>>741353463WDYM?Fallout 1 doesn't actually have a tutorial per se.
>>741353383that's an easter egg you retarded faggotbet you never even played it, kill yourself
>>741353570I read online that there was supposed to be a XP bonus and a message saying that the water chip wasn't at Vault 15, but it never showed up for some reason. Do I need it to progress the game, or does it not matter?
>>741353703Maybe go closer to the rubble and see if the message appears, if it doesn't then I guess its a glitch idk.
>>741353703The fuck is that screenshotIt's supposed to look something like picrelAnd the message appears on the log.
I remember watching some zoomer streamer girl playing Fallout 1 blind some time ago.She wasn't paying attention to where she was supposed to go at first and what was her goal, and went in the opposite direction to Vault 15, straight to Necropolis, because "lol, it's a Bethesda game". Then she spent in-game weeks trying to pick a fight with super mutants, got arrested by them and eventually almost fucked herself into a corner, until someone in the chat told her how badly she botched her run. It was a fun watch.
>>741347731not that you need to know, but with fast shot you don't get aimed shots
>>741353430>I'm pretty sure the area around the Glow on the world map are heavily irradiated alsoNo, there is no radiation outside the actual location.
>>741353830I went as close as possible and nothing popped up, do I need to kill every ant in the vault?>>741353907No message appeared.
>>741354218Have you tried "looking" at the rubble? Also, you might have missed the info prompt.Also, also, what kind of version of FO1 are you using?Also, also, also, it's not really all that important.
>>741354218Because you loaded the game, asswipe. Use better bait next time.>>741354019You're right, but the radiation there is still deadly, even for 10 END characters.
>>741353383honestly the most horrible aspect of FO2 is the dificulty and how outdoorsman doesn't fucking work, or Perception tooif you are playing on hard, you will never win a single fucking random event
here's my build, almost done with the gamei modified it so charisma affects your companion slots
>>741354415>Have you tried "looking" at the rubble? Also, you might have missed the info prompt.I looked at the rubble, and the only prompt that pops up is just about the rubble, nothing else. I loaded that save, but the one before it, I looked at all the previous logs and there was nothing. >Also, also, what kind of version of FO1 are you using?Picrel, just the modern steam version. >Also, also, also, it's not really all that important.Alright, I guess it's no big deal then.>>741354434Retard.
>>741354748FUCK forgot the pic
>>741354726Almost done with the game and still at level 7 lmao?
>playing Fallout 1 again>doing the bust the Skullz quest>steal Neal's urn to gain their trust then betray them to the guards>can't give Neal back the urn because it's not on Vinnie's bodyIt's nice that when Bethesda acquired the franchise they continued the tradition of bugs that soft lock you out of quests
>>741354726>>741354805i've meta'd the game since i've already played this a couple of times and just wanted to experimentin terms of main quest, all that needs to be done is go to the cathedral and the mariposa base.i only did sidequests that allowed me to accomplish my build, like the +1 per statunrelated, here's my arcanum
>>741354748>Picrel, just the modern steam version.Oh. Well, I would've personally gone with either FO1 Restoration mod or Fallout FixIt. I am not putting much faith in that Steam release.
>>741355009Nice
I just wish Bethesda would have some fucking balls and let someone else make another isometric CRPG Fallout game. I know they never will because Bethesda is Bethesda, but fuck me it'd be so relatively cheap to make and there's clearly a market for it considering how many people still play 1 and 2... right?
>>741355047That guy cut out the message log in his initial screenshot only to deflect with a loaded game afterwards. He's either an idiot or a troll, just ignore him.
>>741355275Todd got burned on Fallout New Vegas. He'll never allow anyone else to handle the Fallout IP again.
>>741355429Todd's gonna retire soon.
>>741355275>isometric CRPGWas always a niche genre, so not gonna happen.
>>741302602numerically, based on criteria.
>>741323894thats the kind of react gif you except to see from a faggot indeed
>>741345295I have been looking around, and fixt seems both buggy and outdated.some russians have been autistic about the game for a long time and made an improvement on the 1.35 unofficial patch that is meant to just be slapped onto the steam or GOG versionsgives you a better version of fixthe just calls it the 1.36 unofficial patch
>>741345134>>741364358The TeamX patch? Yeah, that's great too.
personal enjoymentNV>3>76>1>2>4how good i think they areNV>1>2>3>76>4
>OP tells people to rank Fallout games>People include Bethesda gamesYou people are retards.
>>741364548this is basically an unoffical extension of the TeamX patch, all the other stuff of fixt, and a few more patches..looking at the installation wizard you get pretty good control over what you choose to put in from each patchthat said the descriptions are... idk this russian dude is dedicated but the translation on some things is a bit fucked lmao
>>741302826/thread
>>741364769if interplay made ̶g̶o̶o̶d̶ fallout games they wouldn't have had to sell the IP to toddnow what's left of them make fucking outer worlds pmsl
1>NV>2>The Pitt>3>bits of 4>Tactics>The rest of 4>killing myself>The rest of NuFallout
>this made boomers piss and shit their pants with laughter
>>741366135Based
>>741366150Not really, Old World Blues is dogshit with terrible writing
>>741343985looking at this and some encounters you can get...you should be able to get away with lowering your strength and endurance by 1 point each, and putting that to something else like int.
>>741366105If Bethesda made good games ZeniMax wouldn't have been acquired by Microsoft. Checkmate, dumbass.
gonna try a run with Bonk, the hyperintelligent man who decided that simplicity is elegance
>>741366105Fallout 1 and 2were some of the few games at Interplay that sold well>now what's left of them make fucking outer worlds pmslYou're a brown retard who's mixing Black Isle Studios and Interplay
>>741366738>1 LuckOh boy...enjoy the ride!
>>741339981fallout 1 is hard as fuck unless you follow a guide that tells you how to beat it
>>741366565that might've had some weight if todd wasn't still in charge of the fallout scrolls>>741366802remind me who made new vegas?
>>741366896Luck is unnecessary for Bonk, for Bonk has given up needing fate to hand him things.Bonk will TAKE what is needed from the world.
>>741354726Yeah Fast Shot is Over Powered
>>741366973You dont need Luck in the old Fallouts its just casual faggots that want you to downgrade so you struggle because making mistakes is how "the game should be played". Its not but who cares. Caveman puncher build is the most overpowered build in classic Fallout. Unexpected but thats how it is. It abuses Special and the trait system the most.
>>7413026021 > 3 = NV = 2 >>>>>>>>> 4 I have yet to play Tactics, but looks fun
>>7413026022 > 1 > NV > 3, haven't played the others. I used to be one of those people who said 1 was best because of it's heckin super serious atmosphere but the Fallout series is such a joke nowadays I can't really take it seriously anyway, so I'd rather just play 2 because it's more fun.
>>7413026022 is just 1 but slightly improved and with a lot more shit to do.
>>741367671it's diluted, 1 is pure.
>>741367263I just wanted to scare himHaving low luck reminded me of that fucking dog in Fallout 2.Which got even worse since I had a character based around Critical Chance.>>741367345>3Toddout isn't Fallout>>741367671Yeah, but the tone is all over the place since most locations were made by very isolated teams in a rush.
New Vegas is undoubtedly the best. It's the synthesis of all the best parts of the rest of the games, with none of the downsides. It's also iconic through and through. A very easy pick.Second place has to go to Fallout 1, for me. 1 and 2 were a bit of a tossup, but I think, despite it not being the most replayable or sandboxy of the two, 1 simply has the better story and offers a great introduction to the setting.Third place is 2, for being essentially a more open ended expansion of 1.Fourth place is Fallout 3. I'm DC born and bred, and find it basically impossible to hate this one even if it is shallow as hell and has the Oblivion problem where you just follow around the real protagonist. I still find it pretty fun.Fifth place is Fallout 76. It's actually a relatively decent little MMO, Appalachia is a great setting, and it's fun to play Fallout with friends. It's unapologetically just a shadow of the real games, and it started unplayably bad and had to become half decent through patches, but, y'know, it exists and isn't pure garbage.Sixth place is Fallout 4. Really disliked this one, it doubled down on the parts that were substandard about 3, and made the whole thing so twee and safe.Seventh place is let's be fucking real I didn't play the other ones. They've had nothing but a bad reputation for so many decades now that it seems silly to even try them.
>>741354434>the radiation there is still deadlyAs long as you don't wait around and go in just for the holodisk and then out again, you can make it without dying.No fucking around with the robots, no looting the armory, no playing chess. Just the holodisk near the guy in power armor.
>>741367959>Toddout isn't FalloutI disagree. F3 is quite unique compared to later entries (except NV) because the franchise was "rebooted" again with F4, the aesthetic is gone and any attempt to take the post-apocalyptic world serious is gone too.F3 has a weak campaign, but is serviceable, F4 doesn't have a real campaign and it's just a cheap rehash of the main plot of F3.TLDR: 3 = NV = 2 for me and me alone
>>741368406>TLDR: 3 = NV = 2 for me and me aloneat least you're honest
never played 1 or 23 is super jank but has peak atmospherenv has a boring map but the best quests and story4 turned the series from rpg to looter shooter and was outdated even back then, signs of bethesda not even trying anymore76 was a mistake and 5 is never happening
>>741368290Based
>>741368480>muh atmosphere
>>741367263>>741367959Bad news gentlemen.Bonk got greedy and tried to beeline for a cave of radscorpions, only to run out of stimsVault 13 will soon find another to send out.on a side note, do brass knuckles count as an unarmed weapon or a melee weapon?
>>741368428When it comes to taste, people can have very different opinions. The franchise experienced a resurgence with Fallout 3 that has never been replicated, and the franchise is more dead than ever. Personally, I have no intention of arguing with other people’s tastes, but if someone asks me why I think F3 is good, I’ll be happy to explain.
>>741368480>3 is super jank but has peak atmosphereYeah and the DLCs outshine the main campaign when it comes to plot
>>741368406>I disagree. F3 is quite uniqueI agree, half of it thanks to Adam Adamowiczs workBut it's still shit and it's still not Fallout>>741368480>Bunch of random assets cobbled together randomly>Atmosphere>Never played 1 and 2Fuckoff>>741368595They count as meleeUnarmed is purely for naked fists
>>741368879>But it's still shit and it's still not FalloutAgain, that's your opinion anon. spoilers ahead, you are not going to convince me F3 is not a Fallout game.
>>741368720>Fallout 3 that has never been replicatedBaldurs Gate 3>why I think F3 is goodFallout 3 is mediocrity, if it did not having level scaling It might have been good, but that is not the game we got.We got Oblivion with guns instead with Emils shit writing on top.
>>741303413>SonoraSeconding
>>741369004>that's your opinionIt's a fact
>>741369008>Baldurs Gate 3F3 and BG3 couldn't be more different.>>741369069If you say so, but again, you are not going to convince me.
>>741302602I refuse to play any Interplay slop, so I'd probably rank them with NV and 4 tied for first place, then 3, then 76.
>>741302602Fallout 4 >>>> The restI loved the basebuilding :)
>>74136848076's live service is shameful and the perfect metaphor for the brandification of fallout, but i'll give it credit in two places>the initial gimmick of "no human NPCs, everyone is dead" is a fun idea for a bethesda gameworld, they already heavily rely on environmental storytelling so why not go all the way>the map was fun to explore for its own sake the first time around, is genuinely better than FO4 in that field>the writing in the launch version was genuinely better than 3 and 4, skyrim dragon mutant bats and having to try to narratively justify dwellers nuking the map for loot outsideI liked it more than 4 all around when I first played it, it was "at least it's trying something different" next to "they just made fallout worse"
>>741369375I thought of the third one while I was typing I'm not that dumb I promise
>>7413026022 > 1 > new vegas > 4 > don't exist
>>741369105>The franchise experienced a resurgence with Fallout 3 that has never been replicatedHappened with Baldurs Gate 3 dumb nigger>you are not going to convince meI don't need to convince you just as I don't need to convince a tranny that he will never be a woman.Delusional retards only answer to what affects them physically.>>741369223>My first Fallout game was 4lmao>>7413694643 shits all over 4, it's not even a competition
>>741369682>Happened with Baldurs Gate 3 dumb niggerSure go ahead, explain me how BG3 is the same as the resurgence of Fallout with F3>I don't need to convince you just as I don't need to convince a tranny that he will never be a woman.Oddly specific, but as I said previously, your opinion is not my opinion and you are not going to convince me otherwise.
>>741367263Big words from the guy who played on easy>>741343985>>741368318If you don't treat it, a sufficiently large dose of radiation (aka being in the Glow without protection) will kill your character while he's walking in the world map. Even if you don't use pills you still need RadAway.
>>741370081stop scuffing the truth dude even on hard this shit is easy af you get 10 fucking turns at level 6. Thats absurdly retardedly overpowered.
>>741370049>Sure go ahead, explain me how BG3 is the same as the resurgence of Fallout with F3As I said, you're a delusional retard living in his own head, not even worth the effort.
>>741370187What scuffing the truth? You're playing on easy. It's obvious from your skill points.
>>741370235>you're a delusional retard living in his own headI find this ironic coming from someone like you, but sure, if you say so.
>>741370187>you get 10 fucking turns at level 6Nigger you get 1 turn per Agility pointHe's called Bonk because that's what you hear when he breaks the sound barrier.
>>741370312I made 1 mistake tho Lockpick above 70-80 is not needed through all the game. So tagging it was a mistake, tagging makes a skill level up faster. just because of that imma restart I fucked up. Lockpick should never be a tag skill. Sneak at 100 is already perfect too so I'm going to think twice before tagging it too.Unarmed has to go to 120%This build is so overpowered it gives me the freedom to straight up tag Melee if I want to larp as Grognak The Barbarian but I really dont want to I already done that in other games.
>>741369682it really does, tired of how often I see something like "fallout 4 makes 3 obsolete, no reason to play it"they both have pretty bad storylines but 3's exploration is so much better as is the experience of questing for more stuff to shove in your locker, the balance is better, the RPG mechanics are more present, it goes on
>>741370650Fallout 3 is an actual RPG, as mediocre as it can be.Fallout 4 is a terrible Open World looter shooter
>>741370751>Fallout 3 is an actual RPG,lollmao even
>>741370427>Nigger you get 1 turn per Agility pointYes, 10 AGI + Bonus HtH Perk + Bonus Move + Action Boy + Fast Shot (yes, this trait is so retardedly OP it works on melee/unarmed hits)Potentially it's 11 turns. With Spiked Knuckes so far I'm spending 1 action point per punch. I'm dealing like 120 damage per turn at level 1. Everything dies. I bet I can even take on a Death Claw head on at level 1 if my character dodges most of it's attacks just by punching it to death.
>>741370751https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1CeKkhQX6I
>>741344176Typical post from a midwit that doesn't know unless fed with a spoon.
>>741371494Wasteland fucking sucks lolthe fucking Grognak The Barbarian RPG minigame in FO4 better than Wasteland. Go to sleep Unc. That shit is barely playable.
>>741368480>3 is super jank but has peak atmosphereThe Pitt* is super jank but peak atmospherefixed.
>>741368595yes it counts as unarmed anons are lying to you, just ask chat GPT here you will get trolled because fags want you to fail
Bonk, being an intelligent man, had a clonebehold, NEW Bonk!Going a more conventional route and hoping the short-term loss in damage will pay off.
>>741303125This.
>>741303125Omg! So much this!!!!!
>>741373797stop posting jeet
>>741373996Fallout sucks.
>>7413026022=NV>tactics>3>1>>>>>>4
>>741309761>now the beginning of fallout 2, thats some real shitJust run past the critters and convince the guy at the end to not fight you. "You need to tag unarmed to beat the tutorial" is an ancient meme that needs to die.
>>741302826Based./thread
What's so bad about Tactics?
>>741376293Great question, of course none of us will have an answer for you. When an unpopular game that's over 20 years old *also* has a bad reputation, you'd have to be a complete fucking retard to spend your limited time on earth playing it.
>>741376293Linear, mission based and combat focused.The complete opposite of what draws people to Fallout.
>>741302858just watch the netflix show lil blud
>>741377225this, fr
>>741376293Tactics is fine. It used to be disliked becuse it was lorebreaking as all fuck, but then Bethesda's Fallouts happened and Tactics' lore breaks weren't all that bad by comparison.
>>7413026024 = New Vegas > 2 > 3 = 14 by far has the best gameplay. New Vegas has the best writing and quests. 2 is fun as a CRPG and is a fun afternoon game. 3 is pretty mediocre but it has a decent amount of content if you want a change of pace and a stroll around that doesn't last very long. 1 is just absolute fucking amateurish trash and anyone that says otherwise is either a liar that hasn't play it or a midwit that doesn't play many RPGs
>>7413026021 > 76> 3 = New Vegas > 4 > 2yes 76 is actually good now
>>7413026022 > 1 > tacticsthe non-rpg fallouts don't interest me
>>741377835>>741377927
>>741378635It's not twitter dude. You can't just post a shitty gif and get into the algorithm. This (You) does not get you money. Your shitposting is even more worthless than usual.
>>741379659Shut the fuck up brownskin
1=NV > 2=3 > Tactics = BOS >>>>> 4 = 76.1 and NV have good RPG mechanics and are respectful of the original game and premise, which is something this series really struggles with. NV to this day is easily still the best 3D interpretation of the franchise, with a few minor faults.2 has a lot of strong points, but I did not enjoy the earlier half anywhere near as much as 1. I don't want to fuck around in the den with raider retards for so long. Enclave are boss as fuck though.3 has the best 3D space. I enjoy exploring 3 more than 2 or even NV. It was the only truly good map Bethesda ever made for Fallout because it was pre-skyrim.Tactics and BOS knew what they wanted to be. They are different, but you can do a lot worse and they are short, straightforward experiences.4 and 76 are equal purely because 4 is moddable. 4 is utter filler slop shit that no one would play after 2018 if it weren't for mods. No, the gunplay is not that much better, and basebuilding and scrap are the reasons the RPG mechanics were gutted. Everyone has to be superman now instead of making a build. 76 has a decent map variety but it suffers being an unnatrually built theme park and butchering the worldbuilding of an RPG series even more. Fuck the post-nv version of fallout with a deathclaw gauntlet.
>>741379803>NV>good rpg mechanicsstopped reading therefirst person shooter combat and the most casual skill checks in the series are not good rpg mechanics
>>741379803Made with AI
>>741380032Can you explain how it's lesser without crying that they aren't randomized?>first person shooter combatYes, I like using the guns, I don't only want to play pokemon mystery dungeon forever when I play a role playing game. Fallout developed a once-unique blend of the two that worked well, despite the reeing of no mutants allowed. I would be happy to see the CRPG games come back as a spinoff series, I do like them, but if you think that they *need* to be isometric turn based games to be good, I think you're seething too hard about it being changed at all. >>741380213I wish I had access to a ZAX computer, but no.
>>741380293>Can you explain how it's lesser without crying that they aren't randomizedthe thresholds are visible, so there is zero chance to ever fail a check. There is zero thought or risk involved, simply click on big numbers for free rewardsyou are free to like the console shooter combat, but it is absolutely detrimental to the RPG-ness of the series
Ultimately I just like to explore, that's why despite how good 1 is, and 2 is pretty solid as well, it just isn't immersive for me.3 feels like Fallout 1 but is first person. Maybe it's flawed, but it's the best in my eyesHate New Vegas, the map is ass and all the faction quests are basically nothing. I honestly don't know what people see in it4 is ehhh. God 76 has so much potential. I can only hope one day they make a singleplayer version. Has a good worldspace unlike 4, tons of weapons, all sorts of improvements from 4's gameplay, but it's just out of reach
>>7413026022>NV>1
>>741380654>Games with the best exploration in the series >I love exploration but I can't get immersed in themLow IQ retard, then again that's Fallouts entire fanbase since Bethesda took over.
>>741380461>simply click on big numbers for free rewardsI suppose that's fair, I for one like that you can actually intentionally fail them for more dialogue. I don't like RNG in games so I don't see the issue here, but I could see if you wanted to argue it should be mathematically based off not only the skill, but Charisma or maybe Luck as well, thus creating a more complex roleplay system in dialogue. >absolutely detrimental to the RPG-ness of the seriesI don't see it, the ways in which it's changed by the perspective shift are almost entirely based in the movement system between games. (disregarding things that can exist regardless of that like skills, special, etc) Sequence and AC and the like for the most part exist to turn the visual limitations of the time into mechanics. I do think that more could have been done to stand in for those though, I interpreted damage threshold as an attempt to jury-rig AC back in somewhat. I blame 3.
>>741372459Lets see if its better with Luck. My guess is the damage will be less consistent. But sure you can get higher crits, lets say you get super Lucky with the RNG and you roll a lot of instakills. Then yes it's worth doing a Luck build but I doubt its going to go like that. Now you are playing a Dice Slop game on a game that is already extremely Dice Sloppy and about chance. It's more funny I guess but it's a meme, not optimal.
For me it's Sonora.
>>7413026021>4>3>NV>2I don't wanna put 4 that high because the traditional rpg elements like story and dialogue in it suck shit, but it excels as a fun open world sandbox.3 just barely edges out NV because it's more interesting to explore and doesn't try to railroad you. NV has more mature storytelling generally, however the quality of writing in 3 is overpanned. 2 I've always hated, shits all over the first game's lore, it's the most themepark-y with very random locations, and the combat becomes extremely tedious and starts taking too long less than halfway through the game.
>>741380975so far the base damage has only been a LITTLE less consistent, AND I get crits
>All these people saying 3 is great for explorationDid we play the same game? I just beat it again and the only standout places were the vaults (and even then, not all of them) and the Dunwich Building. The rest of the map is a bunch of nothing with little to find and downtown is horrendous.
A good Fallout thread. I remember those.
>>741381397My problem with Gifted is that you aint using the Perception or the Charisma. Skill points are way less relevant than in other Fallout games but I feel like without Gifted and with Heavy Handed I can have a brutally optimized character at level 6 that can take on everything, only limited by it's armor at that point because armor matters a lot in FO1 as it should honestly. Late game your HP pool aint as relevant as defense but more hp means you gonna be there a long time tanking with power armor.
>>741379785And yet, $0.01 twitterbux was NOT deposited in your accountSad!Maybe you should go back
>>741381506Most of modern /v/eddits first console was a 360
I like how with the mods that let your companions equip armor, there's just enough power armor in the game to kit everyone out with it.You just might have to fight to get some of it...
>>741381882Shut the fuck up brownoid, humans are talking
>>741381506Some people genuinely did like the gray blown out wreckage and sifting through it
>>741381883so? the 360 is old as fuck
>>741381764but doesnt the heavyhanded conflict heavily with slayer and ruin your critical damage?
>>741381303>it excels as a fun open world sandbox.I just can't enjoy it. I really wanted to like 4, but it just spat in my face at every other opportunity it could. It's world is just so hard for me to engage with when I can't take it seriously at all and I don't enjoy the combat/moment to moment gameplay. If you at least gutted the trash system, I think I could bear it, but upgrading weapons and armor is so integral, and mods are mostly all built around it, that you simply cannot escape it. >>741381506I like it more because you can get lost in it easier than the other games. with NV, 4, and 76, you generally know where you are even when playing without fast travel, and there aren't as many little hidden nooks and crannies you would only ever find looking everywhere or on your local map. Those are the most standout locations, but I enjoyed Bethesda's earlier dungeon design a lot more than their later ones, which feel a lot more cookie-cutter. >downtown is horrendousIsn't that the point?
>>741381961It was also shit and it's main audience were fags like pic related
>>741382589Projection
Why does everyone keep saying 1 is better than 2 and NV? What is actually good about 1? Its map is nonexistent, it has no side content, and its boring.
>>741383960nigger
>>741383960>P-projection>Licks dorito dust encrusted fingers
>>741384368Why’d you post a picture of your setup?
>>741384149>Created all the cool concepts you see>Tone is consistent all throughout the game>Has the best music>Being short encourages multiple replays with different builds>Also has no paddingWith the Fallout1in2 mod it's literally perfect
>>741384467I never owned an Xbox in my life, but everyone I knew who did was a subhuman retard.
>>741384484>Being short encourages multiple replaysHow long does it usually take to beat?
>>7413026021 >= NV > 76 > tactics > 3 > unfortunately haven't played 2 or BoS yet > 4
>>741385050>hasnt played 2 of the games yet>still puts them above 4lmao
>>741380654there is mods for New Vegas and I think Fallout 4 too where you can play a recreation of Fallout 1btw the mod is not EXCEPTIONAL!but its happening I think its incomplete:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiTjc6Mv7-M
>>741384662Depends on your build and your decisions, but I'd say an average 1st play trough for most people is around 10-20 hours.>>741385569>>741385050To be fair, 4 is better than BoS but that isn't saying much, BoS was a throwaway shovelware title for consoles by a desperate company on the verge of bankrupcy.Fallout 4 was made at the peak of Bethesda's success.Says a lot really
>>7413026021>2>NV>3>76>4
>>741302841NV and Tactics were good enough spinoffs
>>741386187NV is more than a spinoff
>>741302602New Vegas = 2 > 1 > 4 > 3 > Tactics
>>741387319A spiritual successor I guess.
>>741387793Nah, it's a direct entry in the modern games.
What mods should I get for NV?
>>741387839Nah, NV is actually good
>>741388070Alt tab fix so that the game won't shit itself anywhere near as much when you do a basic thing that 90% of games after 2010 let you do
>>741387793NV is a direct sequel to FO2NV is the real FO3 Todd hates this tho but it is
>>741388070its a bit iffy now because some of the hottest stuff to make things work better with NV had nexus trannies throw a shitfit because Claude was used to patch a bunch of bugs.baseline though look for something like FNV 4GB patcher so it can handle more RAM and more mods safely.
>>741388409I mean I have all of the patches and shit, but I was mainly looking for stuff to make it more along the lines of the original games. I saw a mod that made the Power Armor look like how it does in the originals. Stuff like that.
>>741388070-yUI User Interfacehttps://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/74357-Bozar Reworkhttps://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/81345https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/74358https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/77033-Real Time Menushttps://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/94910-Just Vanilla Sprinthttps://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/66960-Titans of the Westhttps://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/78688-Diagonal movementhttps://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/64333?tab=posts-B42 Gun Inertia and B42 Interacthttps://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/64335https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/83119-Hit's Weapon Animations 1/2/3https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/73856https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/75208https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/76843-Consistent Pip Boy iconshttps://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/65046
>>741388070Pregnancy mods and impregnate Veronica and Cass as a shota child soldier boy from the Great Khans, The Legion or The Brotherhood using the Shojo mod + Alternate Start and pick up one of those faction starts:https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/35097?tab=images&BH=4If you pick Legion you must enslave Veronica and Cass and impregnate them. There is a Slavery mod too. If you dont pick Legion then you seduce them the old fashion way in the Lucky 38 in the penthouse.
>>741388894>yUI User Interfacehttps://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/74357https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/74358https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/77033>Bozar Reworkhttps://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/81345>Real Time Menushttps://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/94910>Just Vanilla Sprinthttps://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/66960>Titans of the Westhttps://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/78688>Diagonal movementhttps://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/64333?tab=posts>B42 Gun Inertia and B42 Interacthttps://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/64335https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/83119>Hit's Weapon Animations 1/2/3https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/73856https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/75208https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/76843>Consistent Pip Boy iconshttps://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/65046
Fuck, did this thread hit bump limit? Can someone make a new Fallout thread?
>>741388860there are a number of mods that have "classic fallout" in their name that do stuff like that for the weapons and retexture some of the creatures that were in the old games.then you got a few others like the pip-boy 2500 to give yourself the older one, a thing called CROSS crit gore-verhaul to bring back the older style death animations from energy weapons and crits... what else...mechanics wise there is some stuff but I dunno how it will play>cirosans classic overhaul changes the traits, random encounters, and modifies the weapon/armor stats.>JSawyer ultimate edition makes the survial aspect a lot more tough>traits and more perks gives you something like the original fallout character creation, I think?and there is this modding guide called viva new vegas that helps you set things up so the game will be modded properly... but this gets into the weird shit where some of the most baseline mods to ENABLE modding have their different versions and its a hunt to find the most updated and functional ones.
>>741389029>Pregnancy mods and impregnate Veronica and Cass as a shota child soldier boy from the Great Khans, The Legion or The Brotherhood using the Shojo mod + Alternate StartBased, simply based.
