Why is the video game industry crashing? I thought reddit and twitter said that this years E3 is lit and gaming is better than ever?
what crash?
>>741318174There is no crush. People throw around these buzzwords and nothing ever happens. Repeat after me, NOTHING. EVER. HAPPENS. The AI bubble didn't pop. China didn't collapse. The industry didn't crash. Nothing ever happens.
>>741318174It isnt crashing. Studios that havent produced anything or produced 1 shitty game in a decade are closing. For some reason, being profitable matters to publishers. Crazy. Everything should be freeware and developed by programmers when they get home from their 9-5 jobs.
If you have to ask you'll never understand.>>741318379What about 1983? What happened then?
>>741318379my wee wee getting hard is what happens
I don’t find makima all that attractive desu. I don’t get the appeal.For me it’s reze and kobeni
Because erm uh woke go broke haha
nothing is crashing. worthless wokeslop studios that produced 1 game over 10-15 year timeframe are being shuttered because they're ridiculous...they're like Patreon scammers except they're scamming Microsoft retards instead of random Internet retards.
>>741318519I dont either and I actually think kobeni and reze are by far the hottest like you said, I just love Kima
>>741318174People arent buying as much, this means that smaller games do terrible and larger games do worse than expected. I, for one, am not going to spend 70+ on a broken on launch game.
>>741318174>Why is the video game industry crashing?Well you see, around the era of wii, ps3 and Xbox 360 a bunch of trust fund theater kid rejects insisted that the whole profitable industry change just for them and that they get hired on the teams.>A bunch of them were girls willing to suck and fuck loser devs to work their way up the corpo ladder.Anyways, their parents never taught them they weren't entitled to people liking them so they never did anything for the customer and always just self inserted and and screamed at people who didn't buy their shitty products.>They made sure to hire all their shitty friends and get talented people fired for a decade >Turns out that they had no talent after all and not even their trust fund parents could keep pulling strings to keep them employed for clout so they could pretend their child wasn't a failure at life(Pic related)
>>741318174Global recession
>>741318519Femdom is REALLY popular with normalfags and that’s her whole shtick
>>741318174>Why is the video game industry crashing?>>741318379every single company going to shit offering negative returns for 3+ years, multiple high profile studios closing, no growth in any vertical, etc. etc. etc. is by definition a crash, it is a swift contraction of both interest and capital within the space and we will all be better off for it once it completes in 1-2 yearsgentlemen, i highly suggest you buy some stock in whatever company you think will survive, the entire video game industry is on a fire sale and capital will eventually return
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>>741318174Investors are pulling out and betting it all on AI and SpaceX.
>>741318174the modern audience let it die by demanding games they didn't play. luckily all that will remain now are the people truly passionate about vidya and we will once again return to a golden age in time.
>>741318174game industry stopped growingsuddenly overpriced obnoxious libtard devs don't seem worth it for corps anymoreits that shrimple
>>741319590>the modern audiencethe corpos deluded themselves with shitty lowest-bidder market research into making up a "modern audience" that doesn't actually exist. all their stats and charts say it does, and they listen to stats and charts not real people, so the entire management caste keeps collectively making the same mistakes.
>>741319590Hopefully we are called nerds for liking vidya again
>>741318174There's a LOT of good-looking games coming out. The industry is not crashing, the western AAA segment is.>XBOX spinning off unprofitable studios>PlayStation realizing Bungie fucked them, downsizing the studio accordingly>Ubisoft continuing to downzise as its the only option they have>EA sold to private equity (lol)Every other development house is doing fine. Western AAA companies are just slowly realizing putting tons of eggs into 2 or 3 baskets isn't the best idea.
>>741318519they're all skinny floor boards. none of the appeal has to do with anything other than femdom fetish
>>741319871it is absolutely not restricted to the west whatsoevernintendo has cash on hand but no growth either, investors are fleeing japan writ large as well
dunno
>>741320028A pause in growth isn't a 'crash', you fucking animal.
>>741320097see:>>741319452you can go glance at the financials for many gatchas as well, it isnt pretty
>>741320097Investor-bros im losing confidence...
>>741319590AI will unironically save gaming. Not only by making games, but by solving The Piracy Problem (with a panopticon).
>>741318174>Why is the industry crashing?It's not, if you think it is you don't know what a crash is.A crash requires the demand for a good to plummet so hard that the market fails. The gaming market in pure dollars is mind-bogglingly enormous and still growing as more and more places improve access.>But so many people are getting fired Yes, that's because of Jack Welch capitalism not a lack of revenue/profit.You see good ol' CEO Jackie realized that all his bosses at GE, that is to say the shareholders, cared a lot less about slow dividends than up front profit from selling shares. They tied his bonus to share price, which led to him gutting GE and firing huge swaths of people and destroying the company because in the short-term that would show massive profit growth.This became the de facto way ALL publicly traded companies are run. Success isn't success, only growth is success, and when you're a massive unchecked monopoly like the gaming megapublishers the only real way to show that explosive growth on paper is to slash and burn your expenditures (read: people) the moment you're able.
>>741318174I read somewhere most people only buy new games a year nowGaming’s main focus has mostly shifted to something “free” meant to compete with the attention economy like trying to get you to play Fortnite and CoD over scrolling tiktok
>>741318495>What happened in '83There were so many competing games and consoles of such incredibly low quality that demand died and the market flatlined.Demand has not died in 2026 and the current games market is so big that the 83 market may as well not have existed
>>741320194Don’t forget that his best friend was the one who introduced micro transactions
>>741320429...... todd howard is best friends with trump?
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>>741320547Who are you quoting?
>>741319452>buy some stockThe stock market is an inorganic shit hole and most people whose 401k(a massive scam in it's own right) is invested in it pulls out of it and buys precious metals. AI retardation and open borders+H1b abuse has hastened the death of the american economy.
americans will watch corpos openly suborn the government and watch oligarchs openly plunder their country, all while wagies and debtslaves insist they are free
>>741320582I don't think you know what a crash is If a plane goes from 20,000 feet to 15,000 feet did the plane crash?
>>741320484>FASCIST>FASCIST>FASCISTdemocratic elections are still the foundation of america, which is not fascist, much to the dismay of eurocucks with unelected lords and masters
>>741320582>We don't need to sell games, chud! Ever heard of a loss leader!
>>741320637>He only lost 5 liters of blood, he still has 5 liters left!
>>741320606t. seething goldbug upset he's still under-performed basic stock indicies for decades
>>741320471Epstein and the CEO of Activision back in 2013 exchanged a lot of emails about indoctrinating children into their own private economies
>>741320658>he thinks the americans still have democracyyou vote for who they let you vote foryour entire environment is constructed for their benefit; at best you have the luxury of picking which business coalition dictates policy to the legislature.
>>741320658>Trump isn't fascist because there are still elections That's not really how personal attributes work, Trump is a fascist in a country currently sliding into fascism.None of this is related to you for whatever reason thinking Trump is "centrist" when literally everything he says and does is about establishing and glorifying unchecked power.You do know that that's what being on the right is, yeah? Being for the centralization of power in a few hands? You might not if you genuinely think the right is uniformly antisemitic.
>>741318174for that we need to go back to 2008. Every metric of quality went to shit in 2008 but not because of social media or tumblr, but because the economic landscape changed when it comes to businesses making bad decisions. After 2008, the new meta was not looking for customers or crowd-funding, but looking for big firms or governments to bail you out no matter what. This is the reason why the quality of everything went to shit, they don't have any incentive to be good if the big players can keep pouring money in. It applies to videogames companies, and is, in part, the reason we see woke shit in games (its a requirement to get the big money from Vanguard and alike). What the customer wants is secondary.Now those big players are in an arms race with AI and compute power, and with the slow realization that the gaming market peaked because we no longer have young people buying games as before (and we have less young peopme in general), they are deeming gaming as a lost cause. So companies like those under the wing of Xbox are ending with no investors because they don't see any future, and no customers because they hate the products. And that is the carnage we are seeing now.
>>741320839you're wrong, didnt ask, didnt read, quiet down eurocuck
>>741318174Here, dipshit, let me write an equation for you>average team size of a AAA dev team is like 300 people>Schreier says overhead per employee at a AAA dev studio is $250k per year>games take 8 years to make for some unknown fuckoff reason>250000 x 300 x 8 = big number
>>741318174big companies wasting money on stupid shit like peach fuzz arm hair and dei and trying to appeal to the biggest majoritysmall indies flooding market with copy cat shit
>>741320858>Business changed in 2008No it didn't sonny jimYou're about 30 years late
it's never going to crash. The western side will collapse.
>>741318174jews
>>741319831>a "modern audience" that doesn't actually exist. all their stats and charts say it does, and they listen to stats and chartsIts an observation Ive had from watching sports, but most people are absolutely retarded when it comes to working with stats and data. And only sorta a "math" thing, they really just lack the ability to critically think about data and what it means and what possible problems there are it. And its because math is magic to them so a number saying something makes it inherently true. In the case of vidya, they see the "50% of gamers are women" and think that theres a market there. They dont think to ask what kind of games they play, how much they play, or even do they fucking buy games. To say nothing of the fact that if they make up a percentage of the hobby that mirrors their actual population, maybe the market is being served to their tastes already, regardless of what your virtue signaling employees tell you...
>>741320929>WW2 as a modern western myth has completely fell as well.
It's crashing hard because video games stopped improving a long time ago.New consoles aren't actually "better" anymore they are just the same old shit with the same old games as always.Video games stopped improving and people are sick of paying high prices just to play the same crap on the same technology every single year.We went from Smash Bros 64 to Smelee in only like two years, think about how big the jump in technology was from 1997 to 2007. Compare OoT graphics with Crysis 1 graphics. Yet, here we are in 2026 and the games all look the same as 2016 or worse lol.
>>741320943how in the fuck is the overhead 250k per employee? I dont trust that jew rat fuck one bit
>>741321049Do you actually have proof of this or is just >Dear Leader said so
>>741321243It's overhead, anon.Essentially what it costs to keep the ENTIRE Maschine working per worker.>Air conditioning>electiricity>salary>pension>dividends to investorsso on and so forth
>>741318174Western gaming studios got grifted into completely changing direction to better serve a "modern audience" that never existed and it's catching up to them.
>>741321297I get that, but an overhead that high indicates everyone is getting 6 figure salaries, or they have some insane budgeting issues. And game devs absolutely do not deserve 100k+
>>741321578You're so close to getting the point then.The entire fucking equation is bloated to high hell>the overhead is too high>too many people on a dev team>the idea of a product taking 8 years of dev time is utterly absurd in the software spaceGames need to come out in 40 months at the absolute maximum.
>>741321578>game devs absolutely do not deserve 100k+You say that as if 100k is some huge salary these days.
Only the AAA market is crashing, and nothing of value is lost. True gamers keep their fingers on the pulse of indies, that niche will always be filled.
>>741321578>game devs absolutely do not deserve 100k+they have to pay this, their competitors are US tech which pays 200-300k base salary for someone with a few years of experiencesince you're not aware: gaming is seen as the wash-out place for losers who couldn't cut it in tech and their salaries are lower as a resultalso, 100k/yr pretax is not a lot of money in 2026, you are delusional if you believe otherwise
>>741321320>and it's catching up to them.it's only catching up to them because >>741319586>Investors are pulling outall the investors were perfectly happy to keep throwing money at mediocre product in a stagnant-ish gaming industry, right up until the money dried up. the stagnation and "modern audience" set up the preconditions, but it's really all the economic disruption (AI, people poor, material costs etc) that's pushed it over the edge. investors are herd creatures, they follow the vibes of the investors around them. now the collective consensus changes, so the money flows elsewhere.perhaps things will be nice once all the RoI-chasing growth fiends have left gamedev, once it's no longer regarded as a viable business.
>>741318174It isn't in Asia, only in the west. Japanese games are a better product all around now. This wasn't the case in the 360/PS3 era when Japan was chasing the west and failing. The thing is they got their act together and started making better games. Western studios are falling way behind Japan and they still haven't realized it yet. Most normie gamers are either playing Capcom and Sega games or crying on youtube that games are dead. Nobody wants what western studios are putting out. They look and feel dated. For a comparison Resident Evil 9 cost around $60 million and was a big hit, South of Midnight cost $100 million and made almost no sales. Gears E-Day which admittedly looks neat supposedly cost $400 million. It isn't sustainable to continue like this.
The video game industry is at its lowest quality wiseThe culling of worthless nobodies who only joined the workforce to insert their politics in the games has already begun
>>741318519I love redheads with giant asses, which is a lot of her fanart
>>741318174>trannyslop man
>>741318519It's unironically her very well written character
>>741318174Woke
>>741318174Crashing?You mean the big soulless developers that put force their woke bullshit into their games?God riddance.Indie developers will fill the void.
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>>741318174because they're making the games THEY want you to playversus the games YOU want to play.throw in some huge financial issues for the average 18-30 year old, and what do you expect?
>>741322343counterculture siteremember /v/, total corpo death
>>741318174Same reason the movie industry is crashing. Big companies spend so much money on one single project, the only way it turns a profit is if it makes a billion dollars or more. Meanwhile, some random indie team of 3 people spends 100 dollars and sells a million copies.
>>741318379>The AI bubble didn't pop.To be fair, you had to be a special kind of stupid to genuinely believe an "AI bubble" was ever "going to pop any day now".
>>741321849>they have to pay this, their competitors are US tech which pays 200-300k base salary for someone with a few years of experienceI don't know where you have been anon but that is not true anymore. Lots of layoffs in US software all around you could probably get away with paying 80k a year in a smaller city and people would go for it.
>>741318174>spend 8 years making hero extraction slop>dies in three days>900 people lose their careerswho cares
>>741320658the most powerful vote you have as an american is voting for someone else to vote/speak for youits not a democracy by any means bud, more like an "approved lordship"
>>741320194One game.
>>741322565>I don't know where you have been anoni have been in tech, working at a company you know the name of, earning 200k+ wfh 3 days a week>>741322565>you could probably get away with paying 80k a year in a smaller city and people would go for it.these people are losers who can only "code" in python
>>741322669>i have been in tech, working at a company you know the name of, earning 200k+ wfh 3 days a weekand yet you're still here? gracing us with your opinions? thankyousir.
>>741320582Covid were really good years for the industry.
>>741318174Only the western side and it's wonderful to see
The entire global economy has crashed, it isn't just the videogame industry. All that is left is gambling and an AI bubble.
>>741322780you'd be amazed who posts here, go ahead and search some tech jobs and their salary ranges in T1 cities if you think im LARPing
>>741322617I DON'T KNOW WHY
>>741322862Porn and weed are still trucking along fine
>>741322893uh oh! janny melty!
>>741320582What about the pre covid years?
>>741322563It's more of a constant, ever present bleed out that we'll be forced to stymy until the end of time
>>741318519Kobeni is ugly so youre retarded
>>741322669>working at a company you know the name of,not a good thing in this environment. They are laying off tons of people like you right now because you are too expensive. Most software developers are incredibly arrogant like you are and are being humbled fast.
>>741322563it absolutely will and you are a special kind of retard if you don't understand what a financial bubble is
>>741323601>losers are getting laid offnot my problemanyway the point is if you think 100k/yr is a lot of money you are just poor and deluded, the median salary in this country is like 70k and that includes retards behind counters at mcdonalds
>>741323569I’m sorry you’re gay
>>741323770>anyway the point is if you think 100k/yr is a lot of money you are just poor and deludedit is a lot of money that can go towards GPUs in a datacenter rather than (You). US devs get way more money than any other countries developers and all the big tech firms are obsessed with using offshoring and AI to get rid of you. If you don't understand that you are the one that is delusional.
>>741320582I think they have less first party games overall. Make less games sell less games omg
>going back and forth with a larping techieneets are a curious genre of useless fucks, just like this board. horrid perspectives ITT.
>>741323760I actually went to ChatGPT, used your reply as part of the prompt and asked it to generate what it thinks you might look like. Downloaded it straight from there and uploaded it here. How close did it get?
>>741318174For the past 10 years all these companies were taking billionaire and corporate money to produce funded propaganda, with Trump this is now ceased and so they have to rely only on customers money. Since they have fucked their customers over for the past 10 years they are collapsing now.Also Zoomers and Gen A don't give a single fuck about video games beyond Roblox and Fortnite, so the base of customers isn't only not growing but shrinking. The investors are fleeing, and are smart to do so. AI is a better industry to make money from.
>>741318174There really isn't a game industry crash, just some companies making incredibly dumb decisions.There is actually an anime industry crash happening right now, but nobody really cares about the anime industry or anime anymore (which is why the crash is happening).
>>741324778What do zoomers and gen alpha like?
>>741324935Qrd on the anime industry? I don't watch it.
>>741318519CS is genuinely one of the few anime wherein i like all the girls, my favs are Kobeni, Reze and Power, but i'd gladly impregnate Makima and make her a mother to fix her retardation
>>741324716>Deus EX poster>soijack>greentext "MUH AI Art"Actually did a decent job.
>>741325002Simply a matter of supply far exceeding demand.Since around 2019~, Kadokawa began a new initiative to vastly increase their productions to the degree that a typical season of anime in 2025 (ie, all the anime released from January~April constitutes one 'season' or 'cour') has more than double, perhaps even triple, what was released ten years prior.This is also why a lot of anime releasing today seem weird to be greenlit. Lots of remakes / reboots of older works, but the big thing is the 'Kadokawa pipeline'. Basically, Kadokawa owns every level of the works they back, at every stage of production. Example,>Web NovelThey own the websites in most cases, and select works from here.>Light Novels -> MangaThey pick up the WNs deemed successful and cycle them into LN publishing, followed by manga publishing.>TV Anime ~ MerchAnd they reach the final stage here, with several anime produced directly by Kadokawa.It's not just them, basically every production company is pushing heavily for more anime to capitalized on a perceived market boom, but Kadokawa was one of the first and most open about it. Since about 2024~ the industry has been winding down though not many companies are taking notice of this. Toei and TMS will surely weather whatever comes, but a lot of other aspects are taking pretty big hits.For a western market example though, Crunchyroll has begun to rollback their sale of physical media (BDs, manga, LNs) on their site starting a few months back and returning to 'pop merch' sales (ie, socks, shirts, prize figures, etc.), likely because the international interest in anime is waning.Note, for anyone who reads this and goes "This is a good thing", all an industry crash will end up doing is resulting in interesting works not being made while focus drifts back to sure hits (ie, Weekly Jump and Naroukei adaptations).
I don't understand people who just go "everythings fine, were still winning" but then blame people for not supporting a corporate product, made by people who got laid off by the elites and shareholders of the corporation. Its beyond the usual delusional, tone-deaf bullshit.
>>741318174No they're finally getting rid of woke troon devs and those trannies are crashing out about it. Gaming is about to get much better again
>>741318174Just like in the 80s the crash is only happening with the shitty AAA muttoid console corpos, PC gaming will have a second golden age soon when the whole AI shit pops too and we get flooded with cheap hardware.
>>741320943Capcom figured it out.They're making RE games constantly now but they're always short.Don't let the games get lost in dev hell. Move em fast
>>741324263thirdie cope, i can do the work of 10 people so they pay me the value of 8why are you seething over my life and trying to find new ways how ill be out of a job when i keep trying to pull the discussion back to the topic? are you upset about the reality of the labor market or something?
>>741326717>gamesyeah i watch all those "games" on youtubere9 is the canary in the coalmine that they're doing the same re4->5->6 shit as last time, nothing changes
>>741327026Maybe, but if the goal is to dodge dev hell, then they're succeeding
>>741318519for me, in terms of attractiveness, it's Reze > Makima > Himeno > Power > Kobeni > Quanxiin terms of writing it's the same thing, but I hate Makima. She's well written but she's a psycho cunt.
>>741327026>>741327026>>741326717Capcom RE has rarely had true dev hell. The examples are mostly in the old days.More often than not lately they'll just cancel projects experiencing significant hurdles and fold the teams over into other projects.Their actual dev hell moments were>Resident Evil 2 (1998)Famously was a completely different game that got rebooted about 80% of the way to completion and got delayed by 10~ months.>Resident Evil ZeroAlso famously was supposed to be an N64 game but kept taking too long. It got to the point where, by the time development resumed fully, they had lost the scenario draft and the scenario writer had forgotten what he'd actually written for the game if I recall.>Resident Evil 4Its team was supposed to ship "Resident Evil 3" in 1999, which got cancelled.Was supposed to release "Resident Evil 4" in 2001. This title got rebranded into Devil May Cry.It then stayed in dev hell until it finally released four years later in 2005.>Resident Evil RequiemWas originally a multiplayer title that got cancelled and its team got an additional 2.5~3 years to make a single player title.And that's about it.
>>741327796An actual big comparison to use would be to Silent Hill.Both SH and RE had plans to release three major titles within a short span of time alongside a theatrical film.Though in RE's case the plan was a bit more ambitious. Capcom, in 2012, was releasing>Resident Evil 6 (the next mainline entry)>Resident Evil: Revelations (the most ambitious spinoff yet)>Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City (the most ambitious outsourced project yet)>The Marhawa Desire (the first full length Resident Evil manga series)>Resident Evil: Damnation (a feature length canonical CG film)>Resident Evil: Retribution (a feature length non-canonical live action film)All from January 2012 to November 2012.Meanwhile Silent Hill had far less ambitious plans. Konami planned to launch three major titles in March 2012, those being Silent Hill HD Collection, Silent Hill Downpour, and Book of Memories.Basically>Silent Hill HDCWas delayed from March 6th to March 20th and was blatantly unfinished on release.>DownpourReleased on schedule for March 13th, but was similarly unfinished and buggy.>Book of MemoriesScheduled for March, then moved to an ambiguous "Spring 2012", before releasing seven months later in October after Konami had barely talked about or advertised the game.Konami seem to get it now as well though, since SH is now an annual franchise. Basically,>The Short Message (finished in 2022, but Konami held it back until 2024 for whatever reason)>Ascension (2023)>2 Remake (2024)>Silent Hill f (2025)>Townfall (2026)>1 Remake (Presumably 2027)And they'll probably announce the next lineup of SH titles in 2027 as well.
>>741326906man you are in a thread about the western game industry having huge layoffs during a really bad economic market for CS employees and you are acting like its 2021 and everybody still has free government money to give you forever to work a remote job and work half days. You are completely delusional if you think you are not in danger of losing your job at any moment. If you really felt secure about your job you would be arguing about how it is a "skill issue" on an imageboard.
Games take twice as long, with twice the headcount, at twice the price per. It costs 8x what it did 10 years ago but they are not making anywhere close to 8x revenue. The new Gears of War has a $400m budget on what would have been a $50m game on the xbone.
>>741318174no one can afford an 2k m.2 or a 5k gpu
>>741318379>The AI bubble didn't pop.It's already collapsing which is why they inflated the SpaceX ipo so much.
>>741320658Shalom.
>>741320658>implying any of the shitheaps around today are democraticIt's all a big farce propped up on mind games and nepos
>>741318379>crushgood morning
>>741318174Gamers have had this weird air of liberal mindset where "everything is fine" while they're sitting in a house burning down just like that cartoon dog meme. I consider it a byproduct of our current culture trickling down into the gaming sphere. It's like some forced positivity shit that protects their lifestyle from falling apart even though it's only being held together by rubber band strings
>>741318379>Nothing ever happen sars
>truthful answerthere is no monolithic video game industry. theres american western which is basically microsoft laying off lots of people and then there is china gacha which makes billions.
