new news: https://relink-ragnarok.granbluefantasy.com/en/news/328/Also the demo is up: https://bsky.app/profile/wario64.bsky.social/post/3mojurhfdem2eBut people are just saying it's the old demo>You'll need to beat Proto Bahamut to get access to the new story (Final post game mission in the base game)Jeez...might have to play it now instead of waiting because i was waiting for the full dlc to come out...
BASED THREADILL GIVE YOU A BUMP
Will Terminus still be the strongest weapons? It was already a massive pain in the ass to grind.
Are Relink threads finally back?>But people are just saying it's the old demoWyell...
post the room
>Bea is a crew card characterGood thing I didn't waste cards on the homo knights so I wont need to do whatever new bullshit to get the last two cards is.
I think I did everything I could in the base game so I'll be ready to go balls deep into the new content right away
>>741336204>includes demo rewards to earn for the full gameHmmmm
What's in the demo? Same as the Ragnarok beta?
>>741339651Yeah its the same as the beta. You get some kind of reward for the full update when you clear the quests this time.
>40GB demoHow
>>741339712Damnit. They will really make me play this same demo for the third time.
>>741339770the full game + dlc will be 140gb...
>>741339794Modern games are so cumbersome fucking hell
Why don't they just let me mess around with Beatrix on the Grancypher?
>>741340153This but Maglielle while Gallanza watches and comments everything happening.
>>741340153Bea is a pure girl that is only interested in holding hands. Gotta fuck Zeta on the side if you want pussy.
>>741336204the story is just the very first quest that was in the original demo. the other quests are the same as the demo. basically seofon's addition is different and that's really it. (the golem has nerfed attack and HP, but it's still aggressive so that's at least nice.)
>>741340182I like the way you think anon
>game doesn't tell you what the demo rewards areLame
I stopped when I got Siete. Who's a fun toon to use now?
>>741340289>the golem has nerfed attack and HP, but it's still aggressive so that's at least niceI'm not seeing the golem in the demo
>>741340951
>>741341139you need to beat the first three quests, then the golem quest will appear.
>>741341384I actually did play Zeta the most in vanilla. Keeping Pogo uptime is addictive.
>>741341386Ooooh I see
>>741340289>the golem has nerfed attack and HPMaybe we can get the S++ this time.
>reward chests open automaticallyI HATE IT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
The steam regionlock shit doesn't exist anymore right?
>>741342015I almost sure it is global and crossplay now.
>>741342015Correct
That was fun, again
4 Beas with english voices on is a true nightmare
>>741342323>english voicesWhy would you do this?
world's worst demos for this game man
>>741339794Why?WTFH
God playing Katalina sucks when you dont have enough specials to actually maintain infinite Ares
Is the game worth playing? Usually goes for relatively cheap. Kinda dig granblue aesthetics. Is the base game any good?
>>741342891Yeah, easily worth 40 bucks
>>741336204Why do anime games have just a bunch of random words for the title that doesn't really mean anything?
>>741342891Idk
>>741336204I just wanna play it now, man
>tard wrangling 3 Beas with Katalina spamming heal and the heal summonThe true granblue experience
>>741336204I beat the base game a few weeks ago and didn't really bother with the post-game stuff, what do I need to do to get up to speed with the DLC? I only used the cap'n throughout and no one else, mostly because I couldn't decide on who I wanted.Also I hope they turn down the visual effects a notch.
>>741343482Ragnarok will have have a setting to tone down the effects. Pretty sure that the demo is supposed to have that as well.
>>741343482No choice but to get your weapons from Proto-Bambam.If you haven't unlocked other characters yet that's good because Proto can't drop weapons of characters you don't have. That means you can aim for specific characters by unlocking them then grinding their weapon.After that it's basically sigils and weapon upgrades but who knows what's the best grind mission will be when the extension comes out.
>same demo again but with Rewards™why
>>741342972Pfft. You think that's bad? You should look up "Mon-Yu: Defeat Monsters and Gain Strong Weapons and Armor. You May Be Defeated, but Don't Give Up. Become Stronger. I Believe There Will Be a Day When the Heroes Defeat the Devil King".Yes, that's a game.
Is this really true?
>>741344201Pretty much. The story mode is basically just the tutorial
>>741344201Yeah. Relink's main story is just a big ol tutorial for the post game stuff
>rabalanceWill they finally make Ghanda not dogshit?
Creamapi status?
>>741344312should be fine as long as you source the dlc files yourself when they're out
>>741344201It's basically just anime Monster Hunter where the game actually starts after you've beaten it.
any new datamines? quest lists, item lists, summons, new weapon slots, alternate costumes, etc?>>741344201it starts as a good final fantasy game and once you're past the credits it turns into a monster hunter game>>741342972series name: granblue fantasy (grand blue fantasy, blue being sky as the setting is entirely* sky island based)specific game subtitle: relink (referencing the link between MC and Lyria, a major plot element, and how the two are separated as part of this games story)expansion name: endless ragnarok (endless being a reference to the game design, a poke at the new mode, ragnarok being the known ancient term, doubling as referencing a similar level of danger in the new scenario, also being the name of Id's (relinks new big character) sword as another fun nod)
How soloable is this game @ endgame?
Do you think they're going to let you AFK max by super building your AI companions again?
>>741344282Can't wait to see what changes they're making. It's been quite a while since I've played the gam honestly so I don't even really remember what changes would be necessary.
>>741344407Solo was ironically easier than multiplayer in most cases since the AI just auto dodge everything and basically never die.
>>741336204>Proto Bahamutthat's right lil twerpGo onlineFight Bahamut with us
>>741344407The grind is substantially worse since you're getting 4 characters to end game. But the experience of actually playing it will be better than pugs were when the content was new.Doing Lucy online was a bit of a headache
>dlc coming out at the same time as palworld 1.0
>>741344884there will probably be a game a week for everyone in the next 3 months because every dev is dodging gta6, shits going to ramp up so hard in september
>>741336204>You'll need to beat Proto Bahamut to get access to the new story (Final post game mission in the base game)Wait, does this mean I need to grind all the way to the end? Damn, might not grab this in the end then. I played a fair bit after into the post-game, I remember I had maxed out character levels at least but there was way more weapon grinding and shit left, I got bored of it at some point, especially since I was not able to find a single match with real people. I don't think I'm up to however much solo grinding is left for me to do before I get to the new content.I remember about the last thing I did was grind some mission to get whatever items I needed to unlock Tweyen (was that the name? the magic archer girl), then played her and upgraded her a bit before stopping. It felt like there was quite a long way to go before finishing the grind.
>>741344987the dlc is going to make the grind much easier with a roguelite mode. and according to a new interview, people will be able to borrow strong characters from other playershttps://www.gamerbraves.com/exclusive-beyond-the-base-game-cygames-on-what-endless-ragnarok-means-for-granblue-fantasy-relink/
>>741345069is that the conflux mode? cool
>>741344987a lot of the QoL and stuff is available before the new missions, including the first version of the roguelike that seems to trivialize old material grinding, so it shouldnt be that hard to catch up.plus people have been playing consistently since the ER announcement and ive never had trouble getting parties for stuff, not even counting the japanese gods who descend on random groups with their 100000 commendations and perfect builds to nuke bosses from orbit.>>741344382>any new datamines? quest lists, item lists, summons, new weapon slots, alternate costumes, etc?dunno about datamines but Seofon has a new weapon in the demo that's his Stinger-type, the DLC trio didnt have these before so its possible, they've all been given full loadouts to fit into the extended game properly.>>741344414Hard to say, it's interesting looking at the new Primal Burst mechanic that can only be loaded up by using a Full Burst, it feels like a direct response to curb double 2-burst stunlocking. So they're aware of stuff players did and at least in this example decided to disincentivize it.
>>741344201True but only of completionist means getting all base achievements.If you aim for the in game trophies then it's something like 400 hours at least.
>>741345069>>741345241Didn't know about this roguelite mode, I guess I'll have to see what that's like but it sounds like it might work out then.
>>741344884and AC4 remake
>>741344382>any new datamines? quest lists, item lists, summons, new weapon slots, alternate costumes, etc?I haven't heard of any datamines yet, but here's an 11min japanese video of gameplay.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1olENN0_ZYIt shows gameplay of every new character except for bea and eustace weirdly enough. Bea is there as an AI, but eustace isn't there at all.Might want to watch it quickly since I have no idea if it's supposed to be shown or not, so it might get taken off of youtube. (or it might just be the hands on demo mentioned in the interview i linked here: >>741345069)
is aurablock still in?pulling that off was pretty rewarding since it did'nt break your entire flow like dodging does
i just checked the relink discord and there was a fuck load of information coming out at summer games fest apparantly.
>>741336204>1 silver centrum.eh i guess it'll be useful for newbies.
>>741345464neatkinda excited for a roguelite MH now
>>741341492Zeta stops being fun once you realize the damage cap prevents you from diving twice before landing.
>>741341764i though they did this because the demo ones were empty
>>741341764the hands on demo has video of players going up to the chests and opening them. so that's still in.
>>741336204Localization is shit, Marvel tier dialog.
>>741345069Actually a ton of good shit in this interview they havent mentioned before, probably to show off in this July 8th stream? Why does this rando website have all this shit>Terminus weapon drops swapped to token drops you trade for the weapon you want>Addressing the concern of Relinks endgame basically being two(three) fights: PBaha or Luci, this time there will actually be a lot to do at the very end>less time struggling with getting specific sigils and combinations (not explained how) because they want you to focus on weapon, general build style, and team comps rather than the mass of the grind being simply getting all these items you need>Master Levels also include a Master Traits system which lets you further tweaks part of a characters kit you want to build around. Three trees that vary up effects, three points in each, you can fill how you want and reallocate freely (eg three points in one tree, one point in each etc) with major gameplay changes in the later investments>Gallanze and Maglielle chosen for fan feedback>Bea and Eustace chosen for expectations and fans loving society wanting the full squad together>Fediel and Fraux chosen specifically for not being in Versus already and getting to expand the world the secondary games show off>No Zodiac picked because Relink doesnt lean into japanese stylings in its setting/content and it didnt feel fitting>Bubs chosen over Belial because Bubs is a raw strength kind of character and his fight design reflects that, Lucillius is a big thinker type and they were worried Belials design would be too similar to his as Belial is also a thinker.>ER bosses lean towards memorization, thinking and strategic play as opposed to a lot of Relink's reactionary fight design>The World included for story association with Fraux but also because of popularity, its unique style, and the content they could do with it>brand new enemy faction called Ragnalia involved in new contentcont.
>>741345952>Conflux designed as a catch-up mechanic instead of going back and making older stuff easier, way to get lots of materials through new gameplay>Conflux has a Rental Character system where you can borrow a character from another player>Transcendance is coming to all weapons, includes new skills not available on sigils>even further progression available to players who reach the top of Master Levels
>>741345952>>741345997Sounds great
>>741345952>Actually a ton of good shit in this interview they havent mentioned before, probably to show off in this July 8th stream? Why does this rando website have all this shithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ug6Hcz_Nl9EI haven't watched this video yet, but my guess is there was an information embargo until the demo came out. All of these people seemed to have played ER at Summer Games Fest + the interview and are all coming out today. My bet is that more interviews will becoming out in a few hours.
>>741345952Bubs will always be our jobber
demo up on steeeaaammmm
I'm ready to unga bunga
>>741346383lobbies with 4 beas made my fucking ears bleed
>>741346505True let's make it 2 Beas and 2 Zetas
>>741345997Hope the solo roguelite mode isn't JUST a newbie catch-up mechanic, would be pretty disappointing
>>741346383>clockslop
>>741346672They showed a while back theres three different tiers to enter and only the first one is set at the og relink's level, its located in that really fancy frozen shrine room with the twin staircases that stood out despite having nothing in itthe latter two tiers are both ER content so presumably ones at that general level and hopefully the final third tier is ER endgame leaning
>>741346672The beginning floors are for newbies, ER unlocks more challenging floors. It's in the OP image
>>741344480>>741344694oh you have to bring ai party members? can't be played with just 1 character? that doesn't sound good
>>741336204Will this let you coop the main story? It’s always the hardest sell to friends when I tell them it’s solo only.
Please let Gallanza be good, I'm begging you.
https://www.rpgsite.net/interview/20697-you-unlock-new-story-events-in-endless-ragnarok-through-clearing-quests-unlike-relinks-narrative-chapter-progression-tetsuya-fukuhara-sanshiro-hidaka-speak-extensively-about-granblue-fantasy-relink-endless-ragnarorpg site interview suggests there might be post-release updates for ER. Nothing concrete, but they seem to have ideas.
>>741347017cykekgames are finally learning, nice
>>741347017I wonder if they feel happy that the game was such a unexpected success.
>>741347017>There is a third superboss other than Bubs and The World
online not shitting itself instantly as soon as it doesn't see a sub10ms lobby in your immediate vicinity is a pretty big improvement already.
My only worries are about having to start game all over, not because I lost my save but because I surely forgot how to actually play efficiently and since I couldn't do last quests in game (this angelic guy, boss rush, that final Bahamut version) alone, I guess I'm in deep trouble.
so newfags DON'T have to play the game yet? I'm assuming the progression will be> main story -> roguelike mode -> dlcinstead of> main story -> endless grind -> dlc
>>741347206I started over and played through the main story, then jumped back onto my main character and still got smacked down hard by Proud Biggie SmallsBut I think a lot of people will be rusty, too.
>>741347206I mean were you ever able to do them alone? If no then that's fine. If yes then you should probably derust with like Blackwyrm or something.My friend dragged me into derusting and the very first mission we got was the Gallanza and Maglielle double. The fight or flight response was enough to immedieatly relearn everything instantly. But it also helps that I wrote my thoughts on how to pilot Katalina when the game was new so all I had to do was walk backwards from my own thoughts at the time.
>>741347301I should probably start over too, completely forgot how to play the game despite the hundreds of hours.
Do I need anything before playing the game? Iirc it stars in the middle of the story
Wheres sheep?
>>741345952>no Nier>no Galleon>no zodiacs>no BelialAt least them post-release
>>741347406Forget sheep, where's cock?
>>741347387Relinks story can be enjoyed standalone, it limits references to the setting to things directly relevant to it's own story and will explain those things to you even if you're an existing player who knows what a Primal Beast or an Astral already isIf you really care, read the captain's fate episodes for more context on the journey before Relink and their ultimate goals and motivationsif you really really care, read all the stuff you get for the encyclopedia thing, it goes quite in depth into topics brought up across the story if you feel like you want more contextif you really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really care, for real, granblue fantasy is free to play and available on steam
>>741346337That Naru goddamn...
>>741345952>>No Zodiac picked because Relink doesnt lean into japanese stylings in its setting/content and it didnt feel fittingWell, I guess I'm not going to upgrade until it goes on sale...
>>741346337>potatoes in the backThat's just mean.
I'm at very hard difficulty and I still have no idea how sigils work
>>741347206>>741347301>>741347352unless the roguelite throws you war elems echos and supp V+s left and right i doubt it will be worth starting over, if you want maximum autism you're still forced to grind lucifer as well.Rolling for masteries was also pretty fucking cancerous
>>741347387You could watch the first anime season, it has everything you need to know about the main story and main cast.
>>741347671Yeah I'm not deleting my original save, just starting over to remember the mechanics etc.
>>741347519>>741347678Thanks, didn't know it was on steam, might give it a try and watch the anime before
>>741347613Inspect them and you'll understand. Some have max levels of 15, 30, 45, and 60. So having two level 15 sigils of something that has a max of 15 is wasted.15 + 15 being 30 just in case you're severly retarded.Attack Damage and Attack Damage Cap have sigil caps of like 60 or higher so you can put that shit practically.
>>741347456As someone who doesn't play Granblue, I've always found it funny how many characters people can list as 'Not buying until [character] drops'
>>741347793Yea I don't have time for that crap. I'm just going to keep hitting bosses until they die. I'll look them up when I finally run into a boss that wipes for failing a DPS check.
>>741346917It's literally Dragalia. You can try to solo but the dps check will time you out (and/or kill you) most if not all of the time in higher difficulties.AI teammates are generally more reliable because you don't need to be partying with some retards who get gibbed at the easiest and most telegraphed attacks. Now, if you were playing GOOD players then that's good and satisfying, but most of them stop co-oping after the first successful no-death clear or if they're done grinding.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqk-r7QZ7Jk
Dragalia...
Lost...
I'm only buying the expansion for her>fediel and fraux are unlocked by completing the ER storyNice
>>741348725Which means you have to beat the base game + base postgame (if you haven't already) and the base expansion to even play as them. Most of the people who buy this game won't even make it to the start of Relink's content.
>>741348820>Which means you have to beat the base game + base postgameI'm all good on that front
>>741348867Have fun sitting in discord LFG. Better hope the AI can carry you through the new content.
>>741348931What a weird doompost when the AI quite literally can do that.
>>741348931What did he mean by this? I'm still finding a decent amount of endgame lobbies in the base game
>Relink lives again>Still no pity mechanic for getting guaranteed build making dropsNah I'm good.
>>741336204I don't understand how much if the gacha I'm supposed to do before playing the first action game? And I don't know how much of both I have to do to play the new one.
>>741349007Watch the anime instead
>>741349007relink is prettymuch stand alone, you're only missing on backstory to an extend, do yourself a service and never touch any gacha ever for any reason
Sale doko? I pirated the base game and it was pretty nice
>>741349007The intro explains everything you need to know progressively, and there's even a massive encyclopedia (that is linked during text) if you care to read.This is not for just gacha players.
>>741346672>Only leveled up Danchou and Eugen>Tons of other characters to try>Wife MaglielleYeah I'm using the rogue content as a means to relearn desu
>>741348931There are almost 30 lobbies up right now, I bet there will be even more when the expansion releases
I hate gacha slop, is this the game for me?
Random stuff I've noticed from the footage:>summons are drops, supposedly over 100 of them>the skills and equip bonuses on summons can be different even if the summon is the same>azurite shards are a new material, they combine to make azurite splendor>lvl 20 wrightstones can drop from quests>new material to upgrade weapons that are specific to a certain weapon type like stunner, crit, etc>almost 30k pwr level, ~200k hp, over 100% crit at master lvl 10>stackable debuffs on bosses>most master traits seem to be skill focus, character mechanic or support focus, and general damage focus>guts and autorevive counts are listed next to buffs for everyone in the party>can hit over 9999999 with full burst>weapons can go to 10 star I thinkI might be wrong about some stuff though, hard to tell if it's demo exclusive stuff.
>>741349112Hopefully we get Gallanza and Magielle immediately if you've beaten the main story, I'll run through the rogueslop to warm up with them
>>741349169No sorry, no gacha here, except for gear drops.
>Base game is still not on saleCygames are so bad at marketing the game.
>>741345952>Bea and Eustace chosen for expectations and fans loving society wanting the full squad togetherThen give us 2 more Eternals rep to make a full team!
>Menus updated to be 2d art instead of 3d models doing the same pose>art changes based on weapon you have equipped>Fediel's weapon are headpieces and Fraux's are shoes>Seofon got his "axe" as a new weapon so he has more than 2
>>741349286They lowered the price permanently, it's 40 bucks
>>741349367menu has always been 2d since day one senilebro
>>741349445
>>741348820ER story starts after you complete proto baha.
>>741349467>>741349495I thought you were talking about the menu when pressing esc
>>741349405The expansion is $30, you'll have to pay $70 if you bought the base game separately, if you were to buy the base game at it's current highest discount ($24) you could save $16, which is a pretty good deal.The complete package is $60 (just $6 more if you bought the base game at it's highest discount, so it's not too big of a loss), but you can't even buy it right now to get an early start for the base game.
>>741349140The game will also have crossplay so even more lobbies
>>741349286You guys had so many chances at getting this game on sale but you expect them to give you the game for 20$ again 3 weeks out from the expansion
Never played vanilla. Heard it was too easy.Tried this demo now. Easily cleared all the missions (the last one being the Ruby Golem or whatever) to unlock all the rewards for the game release. Can I expect the final game to be just as easy?
>>741349932Switch ps4/5 pc so you shouldn't have a hard time at all to find lobbies
>>741350030vanilla had a few walls that people struggled with but it's probably easier after patches
>>741349995I already own the game on PS5, I will only double dip on PC if I could get it on sale.Anyway, it's a pretty standard marketing strategy to put the base game on sale before the expansion is released to get more players to build up hype (see: Monster Hunter, Elden Ring).
>>741345952Hopefully means we are getting a chaos tier PBaha fightKeep in mind we are getting a difficulty level above chaos tier
>>741350030In base Relink fights with two bosses at the same time were the hardest.
Didn't they say in the interview they are thinking about another expansion or a second game
If they do they better include Anila
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
does this game have a good story?
>>741350626And you still have to spam it to get weapons for everyone. Now you just dont fuck yourself by unlocking all the characters first.
>>741350675It's okay, it serves its purpose to introduce new areas and setpieces. I mostly forgot about it already though.
>>741350675It's campy but in a fun way. The desert boss and the escape from spooky realm should put a smile on your face.
>>741350675No, not really.
>>741350675very few games do let's be honest
>>741350920fair enough, i guess what i should've asked is "does it have a story that i will regret paying attention to?"
>>741350675No it doesn't, in fact I remember finding it particularly infuriating and annoying.
>>741350675God no. It's insultingly bad. If you played the gacha you're probably familiar with how bad the main story is early on at least. It's equally bad.
>>741350675It's alright and does not get in the way of the gameplay. There's a character central to the storyline and if you like him you're good.
is it a skip the story and cutscenes angle if i dont really have an attachment to granblue?
>>741351174>Tell me how to thinkWatch them and skip if you don't like them, bro. You're an adult.
>>741351174The presentation is good enough to not skip them. But you ain't getting a good story.
>>741351174Yes have some cool moments like Gallanza throwing his spear and riding it
>>741347146I know it's practically impossible but my copiest of copes is that it's our fucking superbosswe already have the entire society minus ilsa
>>741351440half expecting versusia since versur is pretty much dead and they keep throwing budget at it
>>741350675No jrpg ever has good story, read a visual novel if that is what you're looking for
>>741351524Grand Order, Avatar Belial, or Versusia are the most likely for the third big superboss since anything for the society or dragons would either be way too big to be a good fight like Diaspora or Orologia and anything less would be a mid tier boss not an end boss. Bubs is already ripped directly from Versus with his armor and he literally does round start Karma to suck you in his fight so Versusia could easily happen.
>>741336204no Andira/Sara/Tigers, no buy
>>741350675nope
I'm interested in her butwhy do i see anons calling her a whore and a dyke?
>>741352070Zeta is the shota slayerFrau is the loli hunter
>>741351064>There's a character central to the storyline and if you like him you're good.Which one?
>>741352070>whoreshe attracted a lot of attention from men looking for "comfort" in her home village due to her natural beauty. It's implied she used to be the town bike basically>dykeshe got a wedding dress alt and the fate episodes were about how Rios (her childhood friend) is the most important person to her instead of Danchou
Looks like RPG Site put up a lot more Endless Ragnarok stuff beyond the YT vid.https://www.rpgsite.net/interview/20697-you-unlock-new-story-events-in-endless-ragnarok-through-clearing-quests-unlike-relinks-narrative-chapter-progression-tetsuya-fukuhara-sanshiro-hidaka-speak-extensively-about-granblue-fantasy-relink-endless-ragnarohttps://www.rpgsite.net/preview/20699-first-look-at-maglielle-gallanza-fediel-fraux-gameplay-in-granblue-fantasy-relink-endless-ragnarokLots of good bits of info in these.
>>741345952>No Zodiac picked because Relink doesnt lean into japanese stylings in its setting/content and it didnt feel fittingFucking bullshit. I want my sheep wife.
>>741352423Id.
>>741344201Roughly yeah
>beat the game>try out all the characters>a lot of them are seemingly just better versions of each otherAs far the base movesets go it feels like Cagliostro is the Captain with better range, big fire guy is Siegried but cooler and Zeta is also that but in the air, then Lancelot and the girl midget who just want you mashing, and at the end there's Ferry which seems like all of those combinedAm I stoned? Who am I supposed to pick? Is Ferry a noob trap?
>>741354329Pick who you like, almost none of them are bad. Except ganda and maybe rozetta.
>>741353573>Dogshit website immediately nukes your entire screen with a sunglasses ad that can't be removedLol
>every npc is a summonWhat will she do?
>>741354190Cheers
>>741345952no zodiacsno buysimple as
>>741353878>Blonde>Long hair>Big boobs>Shapely curves >Short>Loves cuddlingHow did they manage to make such a perfect girl?
>>741355396It's funny how they pretty much just stole her design for Hololive's Watame.
>>741344282>finally make Ghanda not dogshitAnon, Ghandagoza is one of the top 3 characters in the game and those three are NOT remotely close to anybody below them. The old man has nukes strapped to his knuckles, you just have to know how to play him (and it's stupid janky dogshit like almost every optimized character playstyle is right now)
>>741355043People still browse sites without an ad blocker?
>>741346917You need em for the DPS checksI dunno if they ever updated the party AI but the ranged characters are way fucking better on AI than any of the meleeSupposedly you can take away all of Zeta's active skills and she'll just spam her dragoon jump thing forever and never take a hit
>>741345464>>741345952Does the roguelike mode have permanent upgrades or is it just for sinking hours in?
>>741356361They've showed it drops piles of materials so there's some permanent benefit to it
>>741349367>>art changes based on weapon you have equippedsoul...
>>741356472That's good. I'm honestly glad they've changed the end game to earning currency to spend to get the shit you want rather than constantly rolling on the boss gacha to get the 1 thing you want. I'd rather do something 100 times to earn enough to buy something than do something 100 times because it has a drop rate of 1/100. The less rng the better, the grind's never the problem it's always the rng.
Should I finish getting Alpha/Beta/Gamma for my party or just wait and see if there's some better shit to get in the expansion anyways
>>741357454They're going to make it super easy to get so you might as well wait.
>>741357298>they've changed the end game to earning currency to spend to get the shit you wantHuh?I mean i know about roguelike giving mats but did they actually give a shop for the rare sigils as well?
>>741354980Wow look at all of those unique choices. I'm sure everyone wont pick damage cap only sigils i mean over masteries
>>741357496They're definitely changing the base game to be like that but they also implied that it's a general shift in design philosophy that they're moving away from rng and more towards farming for the expansion as well. The specifics on that are still vague though so I'm not sure.
>>741354980Seems great and adds more depth to characters
>>741357514There are more traits you pick within each one of them those are just the bonuses you get when you picked enough traits in that category
>>741336204this roster is still so trash man why did versus get all of the good characters
>>741358005Relink now has my potato wife so it wins automatically.
I main gran :)
>>741358005Relink started development earlier when they still thought that they needed to constantly suck off the main crew so half the roster is garbage like Io and Rackam.
>>741358189>hating IoGay>hating RackamInsecure
>>741345952Theres elenental based sigils
>>741358140He's a good all rounder
>>741357298Thing with bade Relink is that by the last update, if you your main build going, you were monsters and anything but Behemoth, Zero and the Boss rushes felt trivial. Behemoth being a fucking huge pinyata of goodies wasnt good design either.
>>741358959You could literally build your character to the point that you could beat the hardest boss in the game while literally AFK and this was a good thing and I hope they do it again.
>>741358189Relink felt like a time capsule back to 2016 gacha granblue, so many things felt hilariously outdated, Ferry not having her 4 pet for example.
>>741358189Leave my goats alone.
Can't wait for the DLC to cost more than the main game
>>741344282The way they never changed Lancelot despite recognizing how dumb his more popular playstyle was and how they doubled down on said stupidity with Sandalphon's step, makes me have no faith in their ability to balance things.
I started last week and just hit proud difficulty, i'm making my way to proto bahamut later so I can try farming for some terminus stuff. Should I even bother? What's even after proto?
>>741347145Arguably more than it deserved considering they stretched resources across both story and multiplayer, leaving both honestly kind of half-baked.
How fun is the game solo? I probably wont have time for the next year or so due to to many unfinished games.
>>741359806I really enjoyed it because it was a game before everything else. Clearly telegraphed attacks are a rarity in this post-dark souls world.
>>741350030Vanilla progression difficulties which vary if you play solo or online (you can easily be carried into a god build)Playing solo would be:>Main campaingTrivial, is just there for the cheese anime storyNow post game quests.>Hard, Very Hard, ExtremeTrivial and an awful slow padding>ManiacReal game starts and the sigils on your main character actually come to play.>ProudOne shot city, if you are not playing online coop youll need to start paying attention to your AI companions and actually equip sigils on them.
>>741359732They're going to make terminus weapon farming easier once the expansion is released (the quest drop tokens that you can trade for the weapons directly instead of dropping a random weapon for a character that you don;t use).Technically you don't even need to get a terminus weapon since the expansion isn't balanced around needing to do the base game's post game grind.
>>741359732There's one or two unique bosses after Proto-Bahamut and a bunch of fight gauntlets
>>741360227>>741360329So what should I be prioritizing for the time? I dont have much outside of my main and my AI companions being the only ones built.
>>741359732>Should I even bother?The way Terminus are abtained is getting changed with the update >What's even after proto?6 or so fights harder than it which drop the most meta sigils in the game.Were are so close to the expansion, id say wait .
>No mention of increased terminus drop rateMight as well farm out the last 2 I need. Considering all the ones I don't need are already obtained. Though I assume everyones party will change.
>>741358140Same. I really couldn't find any other character as comfy to play as danchou. Although Vane is the closest to that goal.
Aside from the new systems are we seeing any balance changes for each character?
>>741360671I feel like I remember hearing that they're rebalancing them but I can't remember if that was directly or if it'll just be indirect balance adjustments with the damage cap rework. Hopefully Ferry won't suck anymore.
>>741360824They want more supportive styles to be a thing so that will probably help Rosetta and Ferry a good amount
>>741350675No. It's an unimportant side episode completely disconnected from the main game's plot. It features a glossary and some characterization but basically assumes you already know who these people are and the cast has no development whatsoever.
>>741350626How do these tokens work? Do they have the same drop chance as the weapons? Do you require multiple per weapon? You could technically get lucky and get the weapons you wanted quickly so this might be a potentially worse solution.
>>741362235I would just assume it average out around hte same probability of getting any weapon but instead of hoping it's the one you want you can just exchange them for the one you want. If they want to reduce the rng there's no way it's going to be a worse solution anon.
Expansion is releasing next month right?
>>741362235It's just going to be the same 20% droprate as a weapon but you trade one of them for the weapon. It won't do anything to the grind unless you are just looking for one characters weapon
>>741362759It'll just let anyone catching up speed it up the grind since they can take the weapons for their actual party first instead of their main character's weapon being the 15th drop
>>741362738July 9th
I didn't touch the betas so I'm excited to try out the demo.
Are there new weapons to make my stuff obsolete? Collection masteries have their use still, but I assume there is no point in awakening Ascension/Terminus weapons at this point?
>>741336204As someone who isn't really familiar with Granblue in general I wanna know, does this game make changes to the general story of Granblue or is this a good way to experience it?
>>741359869If you're fine with single player God Eater or MH you'll be fine
is the demo the same thing as the last beta?
Can I jump into this or do I have to play Granblue Fantasy for a bit
>>741363253It's basically a big event story made into its own game. You don't particularly have to be familiar with any of the original >>741363702don't play Granblue. anyone who still plays the game will tell you the same thing.
>>741363702this game is made exactly for people who don't want to play granblue fantasy
>>741350675Ehhh, no. I know jack shit about Granblue outside of bits and pieces I learned from playing Versus, and I saw the credits of Relink a few days ago. The plot is just an excuse for the action RPG to happen. The best compliment I can give it is that prior to credits there's very little padding in it, and afterwards is when the MonHun-style repeated quest structure and "real game" starts.Funniest shit was when the Avia generals just show up later to assist the heroes in defeating Lilith, they don't even give the flimsiest reason on-screen like "yeah we saw the error of our zealous ways and Lilith's madness", they just do it and everyone accepts it.
>>741363253Even events in the original game that change the story don't matter in the end. For example most of the main cast from Code Geass canonically lives in the GBF world now, because during their collab event Lelouche basically went "fuck going back to that world I'm staying safe here with my sister" and nuked the portal home so yeah.
Granblue's story is a gigantic, massive pile of shit with a handful of decent things embedded in it here and there. Cygames' writers are really, profoundly, not good. Here to put it in perspective: Gran and Lyria killed GOD at the end of the old main story quest, but the story is now continuing in to a new main story quest about the Sky expanding thanks to the Crimson Horizon being erased.
>>741364221desu i don't remember shit about relink's story, only that the versa fight was kino
>>741364340Bitch god making a mess of a group of sky islands because she was trying to rip a portal open to go back home, glasses twink gaslights you into stopping her. Also Id was there.
>>741363314Does the experience get much better with 1 additional player?Or is it full party or bust?
>>741362960Curious about this myself.
>>741350626>Got Percival Terminus in one try and never bothered again.WINNING BY DOING NOTHING AGAIN BABY WHOO
can anyone tell me if they toned down the ridiculous cutscene shit in fights? it is absolutely trash to farm most of the content because of how many god damn cutscenes they put into the fights for phase transitions, especially when the fights are mostly scripted to begin with and have no variance
I was hoping they would take the opportunity with Relink to basically start retelling the Gacha game's story but with an actual budget and more cohesive writing. But I suppose it was unrealistic to begin with.
>>741364707It's playable on solo. The multiplayer experience as usual is completely dependent on the skill level of who you get matches with because you'll either get people who speed up the fight like crazy because of the combined high damage output or you will go into the Lucilius fight and tank the floor from frame 1
Give me more loli playable characters or give me death
>>741365254you're already getting at least one
>>741344282>Ghanda>dogshithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFXZpKHNAa8
>>741365381>build that only come online at the very end of the game>rest of the game playing him isn't only weak but also unfunNah they should rework him.
>>741365348Maglielle is a midget, not a loli
>>741362960>>741364748They're adding Transcendence so all weapons can get upgraded to a point of relevance, and adding the missing weapons to Siete, Sandy, SongThere's a bunch of chinese footage from SGF floating around on bilibili, the only weapon I've seen is a shot of Percival's Executioner weapon - the main weakness exploiter sigil goes up to a higher level, instead of Break Assassin it has Nimble Onslaught, it gets a few levels of Cascade, and it has a unique weakpoint attack damage cap sigil that increases your damage cap by a certain amount when hitting a weakpoint or back attack, maxing out at an increase of +310% but going away if you spend a minute without hitting a weakpoint/back attack. No indication it doesn't stack with regular damage cap sigils, either.The way you upgrade them is that bosses drop Ragnite (Stinger) or Ragnite (Stunner) or whatever you use as a material to transcend that category of weapon, presumably alongside a whole host of other mats.My personal theory is that sigils will basically be character sigils and the current "generically good" stuff that's like build tax necessities, and then they're moving the majority of the customization and build preference type stuff into what weapon you prefer the unique gimmick of, and how you do the new Mastery Level stuff, which we know has loadouts but haven't seen 90% of the meat of.tl;dr things that are already obsolete are being made dragged up in power creep and made less obsolete, at least in theory
>>741365481The problem?
>>741365643The game loves throwing more and more shit to grind, I doubt they're removing sigils, they'll add that new weapon upgrade stuff on top on all the already existing systems
>>741365742I'm not into lolibabas nor ojous, she does nothing for me
>>741363702Despite being extremly self contained, somehow it assumes you are already are familiar with the world but it comes with a pretty nice glossary that explains many of the terms and concepts.Unironically the figthing, Versus/Rising, has way more fanservice that would get lost if you hadnt played the gacha for years.
Now that buffs/debuffs will breakthrough damage cap who's going to be the best buffbot character?Captain?Archer woman?Split buffs and debuffs through the whole party instead?
>>741366807my Io will do so much damage if I ever get a chance to charge my attacks
>>741366807If that's how its gonna work now then you'll probably want group buff stacking on the whole party unless someone isn't pulling their weight
What am i supposed to farm after i beat the main story?Should i just stick with one character?Using Zeta right now
>>741367414If you aren't playing multiplayer you're eventually gonna need to at least get damage cap + war elemental sigils for your whole party so you aren't sweating your balls off just to hit DPS checks
>>741337409S E X
So Endless Ragnarok won't have any serial codes for the gacha, right?
*sips*
She's back?
>>741367641It has a purchase bonus at least but it's literally just an alternate version of the Beelzebub summon with different art/animations.
>>741367734They're making her playable
>>741367804I fucking sierotixed that NIGGER and they gave one out a couple months agoAnyways, potatosex.
>>741367734Yup yup
>>741367865Nice! Hope she'll be throwing weapons around like crazy.
>>741367414You basically just keep going through quests until you get to Proud. Keep your and your AI party's weapon levels up to date. You'll want to start looking for damage caps around mid-late Maniac, run Tyranny and Stamina on everybody, Improved Dodge, Potion Hoarder and Nimble Onslaught are really really good. It's not worth upgrading sigils until very late when you can get Azurite Splendours to skip the upgrade mats for it.Don't use a weapon that isn't Stinger or Terminus(later on), it's never worth it. >>741367641I have an image saying "ER or upgrade kit will include usable items in Granblue Fantasy, details to come later" but can't actually find a source.It drives a shitton of sales for them though so they'd be insane not to.
is the demo going to stay? seems retarded to have links to ER purchases when you can't purchase anything on steam yet
>>741367997https://youtu.be/ug6Hcz_Nl9E?is=ZnkP9hZrhznc9ePmThis guy plays as Maggie at 11:30, if you wanna see how she plays.>>741368197The demo has rewards that transfer to the full game, so yes.
>>741368372I love both my wives
>>741368941Same, bro. Same.
>>741368372huh, guess i expected it to be timed considering it has working multiplayer
>>741336204>Blue skyGranblue trannies are leaking out of their general againRemember back when you faggots shilled the original game and then that flopped with zero content for over two years and endless fujo baitI remember
uh oh doomkek melty
2 examples of mental illness so close after each other.
>>741366880You better bring paralyze or you're getting spanked you greedy brat
>>741364221I actually enjoyed the otherworlder tree arc but that final estalucia arc was utter garbage on point with the Phoenix event. Versus and Rising had way better plot than it.
>>741341384>That year they have Umi Shinomura cosplaying as the official Catura cosplayerI must have lost g a l l o n s
>>741365048You get to the skip SOME of Lucilius's, thats all
>>741370120You can skip like half of the proto baha fight too with 2 chain SBAs and link time shenanigans
Is this a DLC or a re release? If I buy the original and do the content for it, will I get cucked and have to do it again, or just some kind of add on?
>>741364221New arc is good.
>>741370454dlc expansion
>>741370454It's the Iceborne of Relink
>>741370454DLCI believe they said it's gonna be $30 or there'll be a bundle with the base game
>>741370454It's a DLC. Basically an expansion for the main game
>>741365465When built and played properly, he does above averange damage, well sitted on S+ and i mean this outside of Link Time, he becomes EX tier then but as players become mlre powerful enemies blowup before even getting the opportunity.Problem lies on the real damage dealers of the game, Charlotta and Sandalphon, who are on a tier of their own and can mash their heads in against a boss, deal disgusting amounts of damage in safe way and quickly chase the boss around the arena to keep a constant DPS.
>>741370597>>741370597>>741370691>>741370692so it's safe for em to get it now and start the base content?
>>741371347Yes, especially since you need to clear all the quests in the base game before you can even start the expansion.
>>741370873His entire playstyle is sieg but worse
Never touched the postgame of the vanilla game, will I be able to do it with the new characters? I want to play as the floaty potato girl.
>>741351663>No JRPG has good storyI like Star Ocean 2. Story, soundtrack, gameplay, vibes. Perfect JRPG
>>741371897Both are great stunners, while Sieg brings party utility, Ghanda is raw unmatched damage.A "More is Less" Ghanda can deal a lot of damage in one low commitment rotation >Dodging straight into finisher800k>instant no change Rage Fist lvl72.500k>total echoes from Berserk and Sup V1.000kRoughly over 4m damage which is the average, if the enemy stays still he can easily push this to 6m.
>>741372897Unirocally, i relate io to Ghanda, more than to Sieg
should i buy and play the base game now or would it be better to wait for the dlc to release before starting from scratch?
>>741374453The DLC update is gonna rework a few things but it's mostly super-lategame shit like how the damage cap works and one annoying to farm mission. You could start now and it'll probably be fine.
>>741374453You could get it now and finish the story at least and then get to end game when they add all the changes. At least catch up you enough that you will be able to jump into the expansion quicker.
>>741374453Are you going to finish it in 2 weeks
>>741372667Yeah, the website has details for the character unlocks. Beatrix and Eustace are regular character card unlocks, Maglielle (the potato) and Gallanza are shortly after the main story but a good while before you finish the epilogue and thus a fair shot before you get to the end of what's currently there and ER content, although you'll be able to choose to make it a lot shorter than it is now with the catchup stuff they're adding.>>741371347>>741374453On the one hand they're making it faster and easier to catch up when it comes out, and it'll be a little cheaper to just get ER rather than buying the game and upgrade, if you care about that.On the other, if it were me I'd like the chance to get caught up at my own pace in time to be ready for the new stuff.On the other other hand, if you play the game at a reasonable pace it might take you like 60-70 hours to get to the current endgame without being carried, so do you have enough time to get that much gaming in over the next three weeks? Do you think you'll want to?You just have to think about it for yourself, really.
>>741375246>>741375625im not in a rush to get to the endgame or the dlc content. im just wondering if it would be better to start when the dlc releases so that i can co op with other new players before the absolute endgame
>>741355625kinda wild hes that good now but i guess thats what happens when people get to hardcore optimise over 2 years
>>741345952>no brown sex rabbit or galleonsad>>741348725that fucking blows, guess im stuck playing Sandal till then since those 2 are the main new ones i wanted to playwell I guess i can try Eustace out>>741350626was wondering how they'll handle that, probably the best compromise since its (currently) the best weapon for everyone barring the postpatch characters and they give damage cap ups
What is sex with Fraux like??
>>741374453Depends on whether or not you want to save $10 since buying the base game now cost $40.>>741349742
>>741380358Only one way to find out
>>741380358Like fucking a glass of water. Zero friction or grip.
>>741336204>no Zodiac cause their asian theme wouldnt fit the settingARE THEY FUCKING RETARDE??????
my wishlist for characters-fucking fix ferry’s horrible bugs like with umlauf and her poorly thought-out damage caps like on onslaught-delete io’s warpath sigil or rework it so stargaze 2 is your bread and butter again instead of gambling on stargaze 5 procs-delete charlotta’s warpath sigil, just fucking delete the whole cancerous thing
>>741382407Saving them for the sequel, trust the plan.
Between Bea, Fraux and Fediel who is going to be the new Narm in online groups when the full game comes out and endgame builds are available?
>>741381730Don't be mean to my wife
>>741382687Yeah, and everybody else's
are you ready to rebuild your entire sigil loadouts from the ground up with elemental matching sigil per character?
>>741382921It's been so long since I played Relink that I don't fucking remember what my builds even looked like and how to improve them.
>>741382921>opens cheat engine
>>741382921Oh wait thats a summon stone and it says "I" so i kinda get why theres "100 summons", expecting that Cyaegha I to V counting as different ones up to that total
>>741382519probably fraux most people didnt like fediel kit for some reason
>>741382508or the next expansion whatever they decide to do
>forgot how half the cast fucking playsmade demo suck a bit since you cant even look it up eitherback to the actual game to SLIMEBLAST the characters i forgot too>>741382519probably Fraux, i tried Bea but i did gorilla and not read how to play her so it kinda sucked
>>741382452Listen to this guy, he knows what's up.My wishlist is for them to bring back the cool interaction Zeta's pogo had with her buff skill back in 1.0 vanilla relink. It got patched out due to being a glitch, but it wasnt broken and made her more fun to play. They won't, but hopefully one of her Mastery traits gives her something similar.
>>741383994>ZetaMake her counter skill airbone tooMake her Rain of Arrows chargeable for an extra lasting timeGive more control to the pogo movement, mid air dodge for lateral strafe and delayed pogo to move to the other side are not reliable.
There needs to be more males
>>741384915The roster is essentially 50/50 female male
>>741384584You don't need airborne counter now that you can just perfect guard anything midanimation and it won't cancel your current attack.
>>741384915Kill yourself, fujo.
Fadiel gameplay https://youtu.be/B7spIV0cXZs?si=YTt7s22UUaWBQyZbgallanza gameplay https://youtu.be/hehQUHlQoVM?si=o4hRagPg7sBw53_CCygames cooked
>>741385230Big tiddy brown dragon looks fun. I think she's going to be my new main. Her or the kick cat.
>>741385230fediel's hops are so cute
>>741385230>>741386263That dodge animation alone already sold me on her
>>741385230>fading ohohohohohohoho at 3:27
Maggie gameplay: https://youtu.be/b8Ar3KeW__M?is=QPlhic6MAQENxBic
was it possible to play the base game multiplayer pirated? i own the base game but want to pirate the dlc
>>741384915faggot
>>741336204>bought this during Christmas sales>never got around to playing it>DLC announced
>>741389529Lol you at least got it for 20$
>>741336204>might have to play it now instead of waitingDon't worry about it.The story is not long, can be completed in a day and you can do it in a few hours if you skip all the dialogue, which in most cases I suggest as its VN tier crap. Watch custscenes, skip bullshit dialogue.The story is also a tutorial to the mechanics of the game.Its post story that the game opens up and if you wait for release to do it you will be able to play all the missions with the new nintendo players. If you do it now, nobody will be doing any of the missions at all, you will have to do it all solo.
I haven't played since they first added Lucy, is it worth coming back now or should I just wait a month? I'm not actually sure if they added anything since then.
>>741344312>>741344371I'm hoping for the DLC files to be included in the update.
>>741391252Just wait the 2 weeks
>>741391412>2 weeksIs it that soon? Man I'm getting giddy.
I need to actually beat Lucilius I quit before he came out. Does he drop anything good?
>>741345997>TranscendanceI just hope that we can finally get rid of the mandatory terminus and the 45k health nerf.I also hope they just drop a sigil that has max damage cap.
>>741389202all these new characters look dope bea might be the worst one out of all of them
>>741389202They finally added a new playable character, took them long enough.
>>741392029I like this artist
>>741391985I do wonder if Bea will get a sig or something in her skill tree that makes her clock charge faster.
>>741364221I agree but with the exception that Rolan and Id are great characters. I like the idea of the immortal dude who should view mortals as insects becoming very attached and falling in love with the mortal world, basically becoming the ultimate handyman to protect the people he loves. Also Id has Tsuda Kenjiro's voice so yeah he's good.
>>741345952>No Zodiac picked because Relink doesnt lean into japanese stylings in its setting/content and it didnt feel fittingSTUPID FUCKING JAPS AAAAAAAAAAAAA
What the fuck was her problem?
>>741340951>toon
>>741391506He drops better versions of the best sigils from what I remember
>>741391506new sigils that are pretty strong, item for unlocking Sandal + limit breaking his weapon, drops damascus, ambrosia and azurite more frequently than slimeblasting
>>741385230>Gallanza has a skill where he spins around in a circle that you can sustain endlessly by mashing>but if he goes for too long instead of doing the finisher he gets dizzy and falls overGod he's even dumber than Bea and Charlotta
>>741349181>weapons can go to 10 star I thinkFuck, there is gonna be some mega grinding to do.
>>741393183Good
>>741364804I got percivals terminus on my 1st drop too, i am a percy main.I have everyones weapons, all awakened etc.In those days grinding was fun and we all started to get the match down to an art form. Nuking it to skip stages in the fight.
>>741393410Yeah it kind of is as it gives me endless gameplay and a reason to do the conflux. I just assumed I was done with grinding for weapon uncap materials.Remember the fucking fortitude crystal grind. FML.i am having to sell them now too because i keep reaching max.
>>741355043>ad that can't be removedlol wut
>>741393702I'm getting the impression they're shifting away from rng drops and moving more towards farming resources so I'm happy with that. I'm happy dumping hundreds of hours into a fun game like this but rng makes me seethe no matter the context.
>>741354980Fuck, with this kat is getting an extra 60% cap.She is my 2nd fav character and she is getting buffed to be able to dodge with ares now.
>>741394225>rng makes me seetheYeah.I am thinking about shit like excavalion hearts for weapon uncaps. That shit is super low RNG drop and the AI cant do the mission and it takes forever.I use my dhalia badges for that shit, but now conflux will drop shit like that, as well as I can just play different characters in conflux for fun.they clearly are not getting rid of RNG though. I think they are increasing drop rates for proud stuff, like items for weapon uncaps or sigil upgrades but they already shown in gameplay that has been released today that rng sigils and the new summon stuff drop from ER quests.I think what they will be doing is having ER have all this RNG shit so we are all farming ER quests endlessly hence the name of the DLC.
>>741353878>too japanesethen they hit you with this OST >>741385230
>>741336204Question: does this game has Yaia?
>>741357496>>741357716It is obvious from the interviews that they are removing the RNG from sigil sythesis, so you will only need to do a quest twice to have whatever sigil you want. Well some 2nd traits will still be RNG, provoke for example.Also to add, I dont think anyone has mentioned it but over masteries are gone, they been superceeded by the new mastery system.see here >>741394485So shit like the normal and skill dam cap up is gone in favour of a raw damage cap up for everyone, but those 50 levels are some serious MSP,Like from what they have shown going from lvl 2 to 3 is 3k MSPThen in that image you can see 10 to 11 is 7500 MSP.It will be in the 20-30 MSP when we hit the lvl 40-50sMEGA grind.Still its nice that the RNG of overmasteries are gone and we can actually work towards the character progression now.Will be nice that MSP no longer goes to waste.I have shit loads of ambrosias too and I bet day one I wont even have enough to get 1 character to 5o mastery.
>>741358189>garbage like Io and Rackam.KYSRackham is a top tier bro
>>741395153Yeah I'm happy with that. Just farm a metric fuck ton of resources to dump into my favourite characters with them gradually getting stronger and stronger with every incremental upgrade.
>>741394725>excavalionKnowing that I probably won't have to touch that dogshit fight ever again is a huge plus. Farming that guy and dealing with RNG hell while building my Ascension weapon was a low point of my initial playthrough.
>>741395223Its like that now of course, but RNG.Overmasteries is a complete fucking joke and without save scumming i doubt i would ever have gotten good rolls on any character.Even with that I only have 1 god roll with the best traits and all 20% for that character, Eugen.I do think that ER is meant to be a literal endless grind though.Game already is an endless grind but i think with ER we are gonna be grinding pretty much every quest.They have not even mentioned what the difference between chaos, + and ++ is yet.There might actually be 3 tiers of each of these quests.>>741395343Same, did ascension weapons for all chars and this was the real challenge only because of shit RNG.I have had excavalion in a quick quest before and players just leave lol.I actually like the battle, but with AI they just cant d the mechanics and it take forever.When I got to the last few characters and had no more hearts I just used all my dhalia badges and even got to a point of just doing QQ instead of that mission. least you know do 15 QQ and you can get a heart. In most cases you can do 3 quests quicker than doing excavilion.
>>741360382You need 4 damage cap V+ sigils.You will need to awaken your ascension weapon to actually beat bhamut. If you are playing offline you need to do that for all 4 characters.Then you need to farm bhamut for terminus, awaken that and then you can progress past bhamut to the end game missions.Of course you also need builds on your characters. You can find exactly where each sigil drops and if you dont get the traits you want you can save scum in sigil synthesis.So. This is the end game grind:Farm V+ sigils for your build. Use dam cap Vs until V+s drop from bhamut.Use save scum to get the right traits on sigils.Level the sigils up to 15. (farming splendors or using dhalia badges for splendors is optional. You can also MTX some)Save scum transmarvel to get war path and awakened sigils for your character.Fully uncap every weaponGet every MSP nodeOver mastery lvl 3. Save scum for good traits (damage cap and crit)Awaken ascension weapon.Farm bhamut for terminusAwaken terminus weapon.Do gauntlets for echo sigilsFuck and farm lucillius for materialsBuy alpha/beta/gamma sigilsFarm lucillius to level them up.Then you have the option to do zero or forever grind behemoth for low drop rate supV+and WE+
>>741354980do you think these masteries will help diversify builds
>>741365643The way this sounds is like they are gonna make the terminus unique sigil a sigil and without the health penalty.They might even just fuck it and give us a 1 sigil that has damage cap instead of the mandatory 4, but that will then ruin lucillius sigils.They have said they seen that there were optimal moves and it lacked build varety and expression and they want to get rid of that. So hopefully the weapons are no longer a meta and are part of that expression.
>>741358189Io is the roster. They should really rename this to Ioblue Fantasy ReIo: Endless Io. One day, you'll understand, my son.
>>741396603nta but from what i can tell you can only use 2 of them. So look at kats of the left, she will "have to" use those 2. the other one being a healer skill.That is assuming we can have 2.My point is there is gonna be a meta and it wont really be as diverse. in that situation no matter what you do you are gimping yourself by not using the dam cap up skills.Saying that though, you dont have to play meta. If we can only have 1 skill active at a time that means we are essentially specializing and you could play a tank or healer role instead of unga bunga DPS.I play captain as a health tank rather than meta damage, Use ascension over terminus. Though i cant do the end game stuff with him.
>>741336204>need to beat protoWell I better hope i still have my save cuz I haven't played this game in like 2 years
>>741382452percyI want to be able to dodge which charging schlatt without loosing it.I also want to be able to move faster with it active.
>>741385230>fucking timerThey had to nerf the lucy timer because people would time out on that shit at launch.This would be a nightmare.
>>741397571also make the aerial charge count, its silly that hey let you charge mid air then resets when touching the ground
>>741385230The characters on those videos are fully geared up with double Luci sigils, Full lvl45 Sup V and Berserker Eco.Think a party with that kind of gear could take out a Behemoth in 2 minutes. So yeah, those bosses are real damage sponges.
>>741397931I never even thought of that. I dont really do jumping attacks with him as I am just in his rotation. Only quest i can think where i do (used to) jump attacks is pyet-a when he is in the middle, just to hit his tail more to farm lunary cells.
>health bars over every enemy's head, even low level, 3 hit mooks>damage numbers everywhere>HUD a bloated mess>still cant turn off active quest check listSlop
Buff Ferry and I will upgrade
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