i've noticed it a lot with the chinese gachas.for a genre that's mostly stealing from anime, and japanese gachas known for their cool males, you would think this would translate into the newer non-japaness games.but their players absolutely despise males and get psychotic whenever a male is added.
>>741337952they only play them for hot chicks. I do think it makes a baffling scenario where they're afraid to make any male character whatsoever so most cutscenes are awful things happening exclusively to the cutest girls ever so it just makes the game feel like awkward torture porn. I recently played through wuwa's awful story for the cyberpunk shit at at least 4 or 5 female characters die horribly or undergo some kind of identity death and I can only assume its because they stopped designing males after 1.0 and don't want them interacting with any of the females so they simply don't have any actual dudes to put in these scenarios
>>741337952gacha are aimed at the kind of person who get irritable with a male on their screen (unless they are self-inserting).
>>741338106Anime and manga is no stranger to female abuse to begin with. That's why we have the ryona and guro subgenres in the first place.
>>741338149non cuckolds? (neurotypicals)
why would I want a male in my rolls? I am not here for a "bro trip experience", I want the simulated experience of beinf needed and wanted by at least one girl, but if reality cannot give me someone to care for and that cares for me, then at least let me have a pretend version of it, and in that escapism I don't want another man competing nor even existing around any of the girls, I know I am unwanted and defective in the real world, let me have a fantasy for however long until someone finds my rotting carcass days after my passing because the smell finally became unbearable for the landlord to ignore and I become a pauper fucking burial. Siegfried is still cool, he doesn't mind lolicons.
>>741338149i guess you are right, it seems like they just play these games to coom to the girls and that's it, i had people call me gay because i rolled males when i never viewed the character through that lens before.
>>741338253yeah but when its like the only fucking thing ever happening plotwise it starts to get grating. like the college introduced a male doctor bishie faggot and he kind of didn't do much other than yap, meanwhile like 3 of the cute girls just have their entire existence deleted. like one of them is atomized into nonexistence following a freak accident and replaced with a hollow shell her former self and the other is literally replaced with a fucking skinwalker but the dude is like kind of sad his dad died. not a big fan
>>741338442>I want the simulated experience of beinf needed and wanted by at least one girl, but if reality cannot give me someone to care for and that cares for me, then at least let me have a pretend version of itthis is a sad way to live
>>741338442This is hoyo's target audience btw
>>741338479some people play games to experience being a badass soldier, some want to be cool wizards, or tough swordmasters, I just wanted to be loved and to love someone, this is all I have in between repetitive work shifts, one day I long to be at least thrown in the same landfill with my waifu's merch.
>>741337952it's funnier when chinks complain of a male mc having some semblance of character and autonomy instead of being a dildo who shouts orders
>>741337952Just make cute males like genshin
>>741337952Asia isn't pozzed by longnose tribe so they can just cater to their audience. Gamers are overwhelmingly male so they make attractive female characters primarily.
>>741337952When gachas were designed for men, players were happy with cool dudes and cute girls.But now gacha devs try to appeal to both men and women. The male characters are flamboyant faggots and the girls are still cute. Players want to support devs that pick a single target audience rather trying to make games that satisfy nobody.
>>741338761i hope you get better anon>>741338871where did this notion that as a male you should only play as a girl come from?
>>741338479Nta but gachas ARE made to be girlfriend simulators.
>>741338952The fact that it's a gacha? It's like asking why visual novels often have romance. This kind of things are expected and are a staple of the genre. You are probably the wrong audience for these games then.
The only gacha I know people don't mind males are FEH and FF gacha...kinda weird
>>741339059Because those are japanese gacha. Chinese gacha started off as girlfriend collection games and that hasn't changed. The graphics just got better.
>>741339001if that's the case then why have gachas had males since their inception? male hat is a recent phenomenon.>>741338921>The male characters are flamboyant faggotsgenuinely have nothing against you, but are you new to otaku culture? where did all these people come from who are gainst lolis and cute boys, are you afraid something might be awoken in you?
>>741337952the self insert fantasy for asian men has gone from>being a cool/badass/funny/interesting person in a way I'm not irl, and as a natural result girls like meto, as this sad faggot outlines >>741338442>just having a girl look at me is my power fantasy
>>741338828this
>>741337952i fucking hate the homo knights too, they aren't an exception
>>741337952Chinese incels really fucking hates men to the point of even implied relationship between a female and male character that isn't them leads to death threats
>>741339169a basic human necessity is not being met in my life, and this is all I can get in palliative care.>>741338952thank you, hope you're enjoying your vidya.
>>741339162Because FGO is older. These chinese gachas you play stemmed from around 2016 where anime styled chinese games started popping up where you collect waifus. The most notable gacha from this era were games like azur lane and girls frontline who came out in 2016. Mihoyo's honkai impact 3 also came out during this year and only had female characters. You can form relationships with the characters and "touch" them at the main menu.
>>741339382>You can form relationships with the characters and "touch" them at the main menu.Man gachas and the people playing them are pathetic
>>741339691Well they are a paying audience, which is ultimately what matters otherwise gachas won't be a multi billion dollar industry. There are 6 billion chinks and if only a fraction of that keeps paying for every single new wife that comes to a gacha, companies will never run out of money.
>>741337952>Other men existing near the women that are my property makes me pissed off.Which sounds kind of cringe but when you're actually, legitimately spending money to own the women I guess it kind of makes sense. Also, gachas have gone more and more into the sexualization and harem-y aspect, so it makes sense that men being around and friendships/relationships between your girls and dudes would come across as more NTR-coded. And because there are so many genuine cucks and NTRfags out there, who love nothing more than shoving their cringe fetish where it's not wanted and making the implication everything anytime a woman is anywhere near another male, I get gachafags wanting to just avoid the potential for somebody to spam cuck porn of their waifu constantly. To do that, you have to genuinely just remove all other men from reality, because NTRfags are that committed to their retardation. So I think it's not just insecurity about men existing near their waifu(s), but a genuine aversion to the potential NTRfaggotry that will inevitably come and infect their space if it's allowed to. I mean, cuckshit still happens even when the game seems to be deliberately trying to dissuade it.t. never played a gacha game
>>741340391That and NTRnigs are just as worse as furries in that they will literally spam their fetish everywhere.
Male loneliness is an epidemic
>>741340509NTRfags are much worse than furries, but it's an apt comparison. Being seen as insufferable, annoying, unwelcome, and gross is appealing to them (because it relates to their fetish), which is why they spam it where it's not wanted.
>>741337952i dont want to roll for males, and i dont want males stealing my gacha pity either. I dont mind it if its like mahjong soul where they're their own separate banner though, but im not rolling for a dude as that shits gay
>>741337952>shipblue gaytasy fagYour game literally retcons straight girls that like the MC into being lesbians that like each other like Vikala and Kumbhira, you tranny.
I pulled for every male character in ZZZ except for the vampire guy because Lycon is for me and I dont want that guy to get in the way.
>>741337952Same reason love and deepspace only has males. These kind of games sell based on sex appeal, which means you're not selling males to a predominately heterosexual male audience (or females to a predominately heterosexual female audience)
>>741337952because >>>>>>>>>>muh "cool males" eventually becomes gay fujo baitthis is from the same game btw.
>>741337952Genshin had an entire year in which they released new male characters exclusively. This was a massive humiliation ritual for any hetero male player and it caused people to avoid "mixed toilet" games.
>>741337952Because I'm a trans lesbian woman
>>741337952gachabrains only exist to gamble and goon. they cant do this if males exist
>>741337952who the fuck would spend money on men?
>>741337952they don't sellwhile that doesn't matter too much for games that pump out loads of characters, for games like genshit and its derivatives that's a massive loss since those banners are up for like a month apiece. when they do release they're basically just loss leaders to keep gays and fujos strung along.
>>741341862i buy the monthly subs generally and i roll men.do you just not buy videogames with men in them?
>>741341940good for you and happy pride month
>>741341940Your mistake is thinking that normal games are comparable to gacha. In a real game, you pay for the gameplay, the experience, the story, etcIn a gacha game, you pay for characters that make your dick hard
>>741342115yeah i'm in the minority because characters making hard is simply not a factor
>>741337952Males make incels feel threatened
>>741337952Gacha men are for women that don't read. Romance smut can create all kinds of fantasy men, but they just need to play a game instead.
>>741342167>>741342183wait so is this game with cool males a troon game? what's the context here
>>741339162>putting lolis in the same category as boysnewfaggots love faggotry and hate lolis, what are you talking about anon
It's just another side effect of the SEAniggerfication of the internet.
>>741337952For whatever reason chinks prefer characters built like twinks. Most straight men rather play as a masculine man.
>>741342296>gachacels>loving faggotrylol what, also femboys are gay
>>741337952because it is displacement of waifus and forcing people to include them in comps. characters are basically the content in these games and if you don't like the put banner. there can be no content for a month to a four month cycle. basically, character gacha with fixed characters is shit. tof solved that issue with custom characters over to be keeled off for the super game nte because no sane gacha game would run past two years of dwindling success anyway. this isn't even exclusive to chinese gachas, tribe nine had to speed past the first blue hair male offering into the bookworm senju probably because women are used to being pampered and not the other way round. maybe shit will change in the next century.
The real answer has always been women inevitably ruin any gacha game that has men in it. It's not always obvious, it's usually never quick, but it's a guarantee that devs will kowtow. Their only job is to follow the trail of money.
>>741341021ewwwwwwwww
>>741339796They're still pathetic lonely losers
>>741338871I know a Turkish girl who plays gacha for the males thoughGuess there aren't enough female gooners
>>741342452Feels like this is a nu-gacha problem since old gacha usually put some of their characters into the standard pool or have a billion of banners running at the same time, for better or worse.
>>741337952It's mostly due to the gacha system as a whole. Any dude you pull for is gonna eat up your funds for future chicks, which is a net loss.It's just a waste of time for many.
>>741337952While they're few and far between, I really hate the idea of wanting HUGE and BURLEY men and then going "I'm not gonna roll for him anyway lol".
No one """hate""" the male characters what they hate are their faggot fans.
>>741345659nah there are a lot of who hate the characters themselves
Arknights does this correctly with some (definitely not all) good male designs, but man do I fucking hate that game's writing.Somehow, despite how fucking unbelievable it might sound, is worse than Hoyokuro writing
>>741339691>>741343072You're not wrong but the number of kissless virgins only keep rising every year, this is the timeline we are in nowin like 10-15 there will be an insane amount of men in their 40s that have 0 children and aren't married either and I have no idea what the fuck that will even do to society
Gachaniggers look at four upstanding men that saved their country, and instead of viewing them as what every man should strive to be like, they curse their names and call them homo knights because they can't fap to them.
>>741337952Males in those games are aimed for female audiences. You don't get cool male fantasy characters. That's why i avoid any gacha with males in it because i don't wanna look at fujoshit character design's.
>>741337952Because introducing a male to a roll pool means that they're now buying men and not just cute girlsIt's not a desperately avoiding to not be gay thing, but it's more that their power fantasy is owning dozens and dozens of women
>>741348649Ehhhh it really depends. Like Venti and Aether are targeted at straight males but the guy who has a vineyard (I haven’t played Genshin in forever) is for girls
>>741339257Yngwie is though.
Sandalphon
>>741348784objectively speaking if i wanted cute girls and my roll pool which i'm going into debt for is diluted with faggots i would be pissed too
Do gachafags really fall in love with pngs?
>>741349057No they’re 3d models now
>>741349057i love Bea
>>741348917Holy GAWD
>>741349057No, they fall in love with modded webms now
because if i wanted to play some faggot shit i would play western games
>>741337952Someway somehow this all turns back into capitalism>eternal virgins dont talk to women because they think they're losers capitalism>seek escape into virtual worlds where they can buy women and have them be 100% dedicated to them capitalism>dont bother going after real women because of capitalistic stereotypes that emasculate 99.9999% of men for not being rich and because its too expensive to maintain a relationship because the woman is also adhering to consummerist ideals capitalism>more and more games turn to gacha that were lab made using every manipulation tactic imaginable to create addictive behaviours, and in this case, they predate on the loneliness epidemic brought about by capitalismIt all comes back to capitalism. Even the reason you cant get a gf.>but capitalism doenst turn real women into slutsIt does by making women commodify sex.
>>741339001>dude all gacha players are AGP trannies, it's obvious!At least you admitted the quiet part out loud
>>741349562economic models just doomed humanity mancapitalism can never be improved because the model rewards psychopaths, and communism can never work unless you force everyone to install a brain chip that regulates human behavior at which point you are in an dystopian society
>>741349057For me, its live2d
>>741337952>try out ZZZ>the combat is actually pretty solid for a mobile game at least>playing through with the characters I got from starter funds>sitting on poly waiting for a new character that looks cool to come out while I play through the game>loli>loli>loli>waifu>waifu>starting to get tired of having such a small roster of characters I have and actually want to build and use>look ahead to see how much longer I'll need to wait for someone cool>upgrade to moderately annoying starter character>waifu>waifu>loliI gave up.It just feels like the Elin situation with TERA all over again.
>>741337952If you spend cash on gambling in order to get something you want the misses to be something that's at least in similar category, getting some fuckboy when rolling for kawaii girl is ass, the reverse is the same
>>741350447ZZZ doesn't have lolis as far as I know.
>>741337952Anyone who actively seethes at male characters are mentally ill even though they're most likely also a guy IRL.To me if you don't like those characters it's not really a big deal since you can just skip them and get some time to save up on your gacha currency to pull for characters that you actually want.And it's not like it's a big issue in modern gacha games since most of them copies Hoyoverse's gacha system where you can't get spooked by male characters on your limited banner since you already know who the guaranteed SSR character is.
>>741349681In general it reduces the point of anyones existence tied to a "value". Since it takes resources to participate in society people will always have an ulterior motive At the end of the day we're animals playing pretend so we can get what we want
>>741350656hebe, whatever
>>741349681Capitalism already brings upon a dystopian societyIt values people who swing around their investment portfolio over people who actually do work
>>741337952Honestly I feel like the issue isn't males but just how shit gacha banners are. Sure, there's lots of coomers complaining about "mixed toilets" but when you get down to it, people complain about rolling for a specific character and not getting who they want. If you roll for titties and you get some barafag's wet dream, you might voice your complaint about fags but it wouldn't be much better if you rolled different titties.
>>741337952>>>>>>>>>>>>>>GranHIV Fantranny
>>741337952In case the responses you got weren't clear: gachas are aimed at the lowest, saddest forms of life on the planet: virgins who fantasize about fucking and/or marrying the girls in the game. So what do you think happens when they're shown males who are cooler and much better looking than themselves interacting with their waifus? Or dot forbid if the writers try to imply any kind of attraction of romance between them
>>741345659A lot of people cried about Arknights when it released because SilverAsh spooked them.
>>741337952cause only a subhuman would "play" that shit
>>741337952South east Asia is the actual answer
>>741337952>post one of the members of the "homo knights" group>ask why players hates males in gachas/vidya nowtry again with actually cool and not homo characters
>>741348917>Yngwie kek
>>741351474I'm legit glad Arknights told these subhumans to fuck off from the get go by having silverchad on the fucking starting banner and being the best unit on it by far.Makes the fact that out of the hundreds of operators in the game only like two or three ever show any interest in your character even better.
>>741350656Lucy, Piper(lolibaba), Zhao(furry loli), Sunna. Nekomata and Nangong maybe, but really borderline. Ditto Soukaku, but she definitely acts the part thanks to dumbdumb.
>>741350447>crying over waifus and lolisyou should just go play Love and Deepspace.
>>741351474I don't remember anyone crying about catdad.I do remember catslash being a meme because it was so fucking OP at the time.
>>741350656retard
>>741337952Because the people who actually spend most of their time on Gachas are male.Add onto that, these same males don't want others to show up in their game because it's 'Their harem' and you start to see the issue.This is more of as chinese/korean issue I think?Males, if they ever show up, other than your PC will only ever appear to make you look better.
>>741337952looking at something in gachas that is not a cute girl is like admiring the room decor or the quality of the couch's stitching in a porno
>>741337952because Chinese men are extraordinarily sexually unfulfilled due to the massive gender demographic imbalance, and see any man interacting with "their" women as a sexual competitor.
