DIGGERS could be here
>release an update after a week>le audio fix (????)>le FSR fix (??????????)Amazing. They've already abandoned the game and have a skeleton crew pretending to work on post launch updates.
>>741339736they are working on gothic 2 remake please understand
>>741339736They already did 3 patches for for PS5 though it boggles my mind how could they fuck up so badly on a platform with 2 (two) hardware variations no OS, driver or SW running alongside the game issues.
>>741339683I joined the Old Camp because I didn't want to disappoint my buddy Diego. And now I'm having second thoughts.Mostly because I'm always joining the Old Camp on every playthrough.
>>741340128OC simply has the best looking armors
>>741339736>I want a half-baked update that fixes more things and breaks other!Get the fuck back to scrolling tiktok, cauliflower head.
>>741339683>with a car you can go anywhere you want
>>741340128its the most based choice, best armor, best location and you can vent your rage on diggers
>>741340128What's wrong with OC?NCampers are asshole bandits and SCampers are stoners duped by a space worm hellbent on destroying the humanity.In the end nameless hero fuck over every single camp so he can do the right thing anyway.
>>741340237Nothing. It's just that I'm always joining the Old Camp and I wanted some novelty. But the New Camp annoyed me so much I went with the Old Camp again, just out of spite.Lares and his goons are responsible for some truly disastrous PR for the New Camp.
>>741340128lets be real irl everyone would join the swamp camp for the kush. no one would even reach the new camp
>>741340128You have shit taste any camp is better than old camp
>>741340382>no one would even reach the new campbut NC has a guide+bodyguard too, just like loons
>>741339683The remake is UE sloppa.Did anybody make nude mods for all the men and the two women in it? Or replace all the men with dickgirls?
>>741340456NC even has 2 people who will do that for you, if you found the knife belonging to Drax
OK, what the actual MFing F?after all the effort to get royal guard armour from a chest you CANNOT pick?and it cannot be upgraded? why in the F?
>>741340382>anon still thinks he could just laze around ans smoke you'd be assigned to harvesters or weed mashers soon enough
>>741339683Looks like a Xbox 360 game and needs 60gb and ssd on PC, 30gb on consoles. This is nonsense, as a gamer fan I appreciate when devs do the most with the gbs.
>>741340484I did, who's the other guy?Mordrag?
>>741340496>chest you CANNOT pick?Isn't that a plus?Get the key and you're done, no need to bother with lockpicking.
>>741340382Most anons would get killed by swamp sharks while collecting swamp weed.
>>741340545Yes but the option doesn't appear if you already entered the new camp properly. I guess NH will not ask to be shown to a place he has already been to.You may or may not need to ask Thorus for his mission and ask if he wants you to kill Mordrag, haven't tested it yet.
>>741340498do I get my daily fix?
>>741340456Yeah, and then NC charges you if you want to leave their camp.
>>741340619Course but less time to laze around
>>741340605>Yes but the option doesn't appear if you already entered the new camp properly.Guess that explains why he never offered to take me to NC.
>>741340676Yeah, ideally you will ask both Drax and Mordrag to take you, especially Mordi takes a longer route and kills more enemies.
>>741340603they are pretty slow. still the biggest downside
>>741340667Better than mining away, poison gas and cave spiders(?) are no joke.
>>741340187my templar with a bigass 2hand sword on the back like to have a fistfight with your face
>>741340768They are but also fucking persistent, I don't think any other animal has followed me for so long as swamp sharks have. Only time they stop is when I get close to a Templar.Sneaky fucking swamp fish
>>741340810The other two camps are only manageable if you've got what it takes to become a Shadow or Merc, though the new camp at the very least lets each dude have their own hut while shadow cucks sleep in the barracks.
Not all mages
>>741340835Also, it feels as if swampsharks aggro on you and on you specifically. I ran through half of the swamp camp and the fucker was only fixated on me, with the rest of the cultists completely ignoring what was going on.
So how come melee weapons and bows can both 2-shot everything, but magic takes like 8 hits to kill anything (and plenty of damaging spells are just worthless) and then you need to take time to restore your mana on top of that?I never did a full mage playthrough of the original was magic this bad in the original?
>>741340948It's the last patch, they nerfed it a lot
>>741340870In the New Camp, you have to fight for your hut. You are not strong enough at level 1? Fuck you.
>"Hey I wanna be a fire mage">"Gotta learn alchemy first, noob!">Alchemy trainer spends all day inside like a nerd and if I go in there, they all attack meCool game.
>>741340870>while shadow cucks sleep in the barracks.but you have your own hut near the arena
>>741341000>i am too stupid to learn alchemy from guys in other campsk, keep us posted
Is there any point in using the mage robe?I just became a water mage and the robe's stat is way worse than my merc armor.
>>741340931Didn't run through the camp with one but it did ignore the weed pickers that one time. So yeah seems they have a particular hateboner for NH>>741340948In og mage meant suffering at the start or midgame so that in late game you can spam rain of fire everywhere and kill everything in sight. The og spells didn't let you move while firing BUT they only a few had a charging phase. In the remake early game mage with firebolt is great but almost all runes after that take 2 days to charge AND don't let you move. Mana cost and overall damage is also pretty trash.
>>741340973Skill issue. New camp wants to gtfo of the barrier and they need competent men for that. If you can't even beat a single bandit then you don't even deserve a sleeping spot among them.
>>741341073It's about the principle of the thing, if you demand a skill to be learned make the damn trainer available.
>>741341074Get a mod to make the mage robes less trash. Dunno what the moors where thinking, og robes weren't as useless as this.
>>741341074No, aside from being comfier to wear.
>people unironically playing thisThe original game was complete and total trash you are deluding yourself that is even a remotely good game.>hurrdurr lets program a game where the controls are so fucking bad that eternally coping millennials have to nostalgiafag about how it "added to the experience"KYS!
>>741341123But they are available, just not 10 meters from where you stand.Principle is you're a freshie *igger and too much of a peasant to walk in the presence of great mages.
>>741341073I know that Riordian teaches it in chapter 3 but I don't actually know anyone at the swamp camp who does.>>741341123Stand behind Milten then start sneaking into the cloister, Damarok is in the back room, directly behind the main entrance. His back will be to you so talk to him about learning and when you're done just run the fuck away.
>>741341208The mages are complete bitches, they should be sucking my dick to join since I'm already a literal god compared to them.
reject str and magic sissiesequip a crossbow and bow at the same time and shoot every digger on sight like a true gomez loyalist
There's actually a small window every morning when Damarok steps outside and goes to the small alcove with the water fountain, but yeah that whole part is pretty retarded - even when I first went to speak with Corristo, the fuckers got angry and started yelling me to get out.
>>741341479Yeah the cloister seems bugged as fuck, several anons mentioned getting attacked when they were about to take the oath to become a mage
>>741341553This was bugged for me too, I found a youtube video fix that was literally using a scroll to turn into a meatbug and going up the stairs and talking to Corristo.It worked but goddamn what a shitty bug.
>>741341637Best part is that after all that effort all you get is a shitty robe and the mages themselves only last until your current story mission is finished. So better learn those circles while you can if not you have to first become a merc and water mage to study more.
>>741341432i think im gonna roll dexfag next playthrough thenare there any mods that fix ui so that at least it sorts inventory by something sensible? also are there mods to fix slave girls models?
>>741342158I've seen stuff for inventory but no reskins yet.
is the remake any good luyk
>>741342289It's not perfect by any means, but it was surprisingly good to me at least. Really hopeful now for G2 with NotR.
>>741342289>741342289has flaws you have to overlook like the originals but first time in ages i really enjoy playing vidya and exploring
>>741342349Same here though I really wish G2 will have more colour and better armor
>>741342289Riddled with gamebreaking bugs. At least wait for a patch or two or just buy from a sale later.
>>741342510>>Riddled with gamebreaking bugs.Such as?
>>741342289I never played the original so I can't comment on how it stacks up, but I fucking love it. It's reminding me why I used to love RPGs more than the modern shit.
>>741341187Do you mind saying a single thing that is actually specific to the topic of conversation?
Which camp has the coolest armor and the hottest women
>>741341074Only if you are going up against magic damage.
>>741342751Old Camp and Old Camp.
>>741342751>coolest armorno idea what your taste isOC final armors look more 'knightly' while SC look more 'tribal' NC one has fur on shoulder>hottest womenkind of irrelevant because they won't give you any attention anywaythere are 2 in SC, 3 in OC, don't remember any in NC
>>741342942>don't remember any in NCThat's because they're all butt bandits.
>>741342751>hottest womenNew Camp because it has the least women
>>741343089new camp has no women, it's the camp for gay diggers
>>741343176>it's the camp for gay diggersit's not like OC diggers get any pussyOC females are purely for Gomez' and his closest henchmen use
>>741343263Crusty digger bussy with some minecrawler squeezins as lube.
Are people here actually believing guard armor looks better than templar armor???its not knighty in gothic 2 the peasants in milita get these armor and not even the right milita armor.
>>741342751For armor purposes, consult pic related.For women, there are women in both Swamp Camp and Old Camp, but it doesn't really matter because it's not like you're gonna be doing much with them or get to see them very often.
>>741343521I like the Templar armor but something looks a bit off about it when NH wears it, can't put my finger on it. Guard armor has a nice design but no fucking colours.
Am I missing something or is Fist of Wind just worthless? I haven't gotten a new damage rune since Firebolt and it's doing the literal square root of negative zero damage to current mobs.
>>741343701The value of that one is in how it knocks enemies back. Stormfist does a decent amount of damage but it also just ragdolls anything in an aoe around the NH.
>>741343758That's what I figured but I can't see the purpose. Maybe at lower levels but Orcs move at 30 miles an hour, and the spell seems to push enemies back about 2 feet and only when they're in close range. Can it actually create openings for other attacks somehow?
>>741343858Well it is a circle 1 spell, it was meant to be used against wolves maybe snappers. By the time you face Orks and the like you should be using other spells. Icebolt still has some use since you can freeze a motherfucker for a few seconds and deal with other enemies instead.
>level dex to 60 and get lvl2 bow mastery>get a shit longbow from mordrag>defeat everyone at the new mine and swim in itmesjust like old times except now its dex instead of str
>>741344098forgot my image
>>741344131>>741344098Arrows deal piercing dmg at it seems nobody has proper defenses against that. They have anti blunt/blade
really wanna go a bow run too next time. sounds fun this time. i played with bow the first time in gothic 2 3 years ago and early game was mega ass.
>>741344303Might as well but most things on hard then cause as soon as you have even a few levels in bow you are no longer miserable.
>>741339683The nightman!
god crossbows are too fucking slow. I'm guessing they only work if you can isolate targets and you have lots of dexterity and a weapon that can pretty much one shot shit, otherwise you're chased after and you get raped easily because it takes 5 minutes to shoot. Does it get a lot faster by mastery? One level just ain't doing it.
>>741344734shoot with crossbow then switch to bow like a true machinegunner
>comfy lake tavernHow can other camps even compete?
>>741339683Remake good enough for first timer? Or should I play OG first?
how much do you guys explore the map? do you go free roaming sometimes or just take quests and go wherever they take you? I feel like I'm already too OP and I barely started chapter 2the beginning was tough, quite like gothic 1 but I got strong way too fast>alsodid they really remove the "training cap" from trainers?? IIRC diego could only take you to 60 str/dex, very few trainers could train you to 100 (which makes sense)
>>741345010Either is fine and fun, the og was even ported into UE 1 and that is integrated into steam.Since the og is cheaper you can check it out first
>>741345003This is what I like most about any of the camps, but sadly, the cave part is what I dislike most about any of them and is the part you actually spend most of the time in. In an ideal camp for me, you'd live in those mountain wall cave rooms overlooking the rice paddies + some huts along the lake, have Lares/Lee in the tavern, and the cave section would only contain the ore and the Water Wizards because those parts are actually very visually interesting.
very disappointed, thought I would see some titty or even two of them
>>741345023I just go where I wish. If someone says something is northeast of camp I go that direction.There seems to be a bit of a power gap between act 1 and act 2 that levels back out. I just started act 3 and the mobs I'm facing right now are fucking me up, after coasting through the later parts of act 1. I'm not minmaxing or grinding levels at all though so mileage may vary.
>>741344303Bow is incredibly good in Gothic 2. You just have to climb to unreachable spots and know which tiers of enemies you can currently kills without issues.
>>741345023Chapter 1 I just barely touched anything that wasn't most joining quests. Chapter 2 I decided towards the end to explore a little bit more to get some extra EXP but not much at all. Now on chapter 3 I'm starving for LP and I had some bad choices. I wish I could get a refund for at least 1 skill. I'm going a bit further with the exploration and finding just so many caves that have fuck all.
I wish for a lockpicking mod that made lockpicking engaging rather than effortless. Maybe replace the whole system even.
>>741345951I wish there was lockpicking mod that would only solve half of the lock, maybe it would make it easier without solving it completely
>>741345023>how much do you guys explore the map?went almost everywhere in ch1, besides area guarded by golem and stnehenge area since I got shredded by bloodhounds thereended up level 16 before I joined shadows
>>741345023pretty sure I went over 60 STR with Diego but not 100% surewho else trains STR/DEX?
>>741345010You'll have a mostly similar experience, no shame in playing the remake
>>741346450Thorus as well
>>741346450in the new camp I think it was lee that taught str to 100 and also 2h swordlooked it up, you are right, I remembered wrong, it was only a feature in 2https://www.gothic.wiki/w/Skills_and_trainers_in_Gothic?title=Special:Log&page=Skills+and+trainers+in+Gothichttps://strategywiki.org/wiki/Gothic_II/Training
Can you still beat up Riodrian and steal all his potions every chapter?
>>741346845found the digger
what a view...
>>741347060>grey slop with fog and clouds...amazing...
>>741343606>I like the Templar armor but something looks a bit off about it when NH wears itIt's the neck, completely exposed and makes him look retarded compared to the other armors.
>>741347060See that mountain? You can't even climb it.
>>741345280It's a shithole but my shithole!
>>741345010If your going to play OG do it BEFORE playing remake.The core might be the same but OG is 25 years old and it shows.
>>741347175don't let ... the door... hit you on ... your ... way out ....
>>741347201See that ES game? You can't even play it.
>>741347654It only looks like a shithole because ue5 cannot into lighting
does weed camp have any new quests later on?
>>741345010Honestly just go for the remake, it's not that the OG is bad but the remake really is just the OG but modern and with some added quests.
>>741347654would be nice if there weren't bugs crawling literally everwhere
>>741347987As if there aren't any in the other camps. At least they have solid ground under their feet.
>>741340128Diego doesn't care he has friends in every camp and will always be your pal.I remember how if you give the list to Lares first and then Diego, he notices what you did and just lets it go, he doesn't care.
>>741340128Diego doesn't give a shit, Lares even says as much when you give him the supply list, that if Thorus gave you the quest you should be trembling in your boots at crossing him, but since it was Diego then Diego is probably just finding it funny since he doesn't truly give a damn about OC or Gomez and just happens to be the gang's member that went there. He's even the very first one to preemptively get out of the camp just on the suspicion that something might happen. Milten seems to be the only one who was more attached to his group since the Fire Mages are a closer and tighter one that actually trained and educated him.
Queen's gland? Do I give it to Cavalorn?
I beat the game just in time to play Elliot tomorrow. I don't remember the ending being so incredibly whack back in the day, but I guess it is.
>>741348661Best option is to wait and give it to one of the water mages.
Anybody got a pic of what the royal armor looks like? Also the stats?
>be nice>get rewardedThat's how Colony works.
>>741348845>be rude>beat him>get exp and his shit>still helps me
>>741348821What do they give you for it? Do you hand it to Riordian?
>>741348925Permanent stat boost potion, Cavalorn just teaches you how to extract some shit parts from bugs.
>>741339736>Buying shit day one>In 2027-1Some people never learn
>>741348836
>>741349003Lol what a scam, looks like a novice Dawnguard.
>>741349003kinda gay
Any idea what build I should use for a permadeath run? I was thinking about mage but I am not sure about how much I will struggle in the first 2 chapters. I also heard that crossbows are op but I haven't tested them myself
>>741348943It's organs, those are used for perma potions in Alchemy in G2
>>741349003oh god, that's awful. thanks for sparing me the trouble.
Gothic 2 was always the pinnacle of the series like Silent HIll 2 was for Silent HIll. It will be the hardest for Alikimia to remake that game and after that it should be easy for them to work on Gothic 3 as it was unfinished trash in the first place. Im also curious how will they use the experience to create Gothic 4 from the scratch without any bible to work with
>>741348836>Also the stats?Worse than camp armor.
>>741349068Yeah too bad this isn't G2.
>>741349058heard dex is strongest so probably that
>>741349081rather 3 is hardest because new graphics and some quests won't cut it, this game needs everything redone, every single thing outside of music
>>741341432No, digger hides are best when tenderized. The the patricians choice when it comes to dealing with diggers is a club. Warhammer if its a big digger.
>>741344734I played as crossbowman + fire arrows since early mage is amazingly trash at killing anything
>>741343563Which camp is the middle one from because that is ballin'?
>>741349058>permadeath runIt's either badly named or fucked up on all platforms.Your save/profile doesn't get erased when you die and you can continue form main menu.You just can't savescum because load option is disabled so you're stuck with your decisions and failures.
>>741349242New Camp, that's the mercenary armor at max upgrades.
>>741347060I feel like Todd Howard will just present Gothic Remake as the new Elder SCroll game and the same Bethesda toddlers who shit on Gothic will now claim Bethesda returned to it's great roots and they deserve GOTY award
>>741349058Mage is actually the strongest early game once you have enough mana. Firebolt carries hard but after chapter 3 you have to use other spells and they kinda suck.
am i the only actually being happy that people here just enjoy playing the game with its flaws? it happens so rarely here.also theres a gothic thread all the time up.
>>741349161I meant it would be the easiest to satisfy the fans since original was one giant offense to the fans. Pretty sure they may as well comepltely ignore the Pajeet add on about "Citizen of Khorinis"
>>741342557Don't play a mage
>>741349296Sweet. I didn't need more reasons to join them but here we are
>>741349316eh Todd can't properly replicate his own formula anymore let alone gothiceven though lots of things like no inventory limit, no stamina bar would feel at home in TES since he aims for super casual players and yet he somehow insists on making things tedious while making rest of the game casual
>>741349436Yeah mid game is horrible since all tier 1-4 spells beside fire bolt suck ass and drain your mana while shooting slower than crossbow. It's only worth it for end game when reaching 6th tier spells that auto kill everything or summon skeletons
>>741349505got to circle 3 with no problemare higher circles fucked?how?
>>741349440Yeah it's comfy as hell. I like the game well enough and all my biggest gripes come down to the engine of choice.
>>741349524I like how Gothic is one of the few games that doesnt regenerate health or mana and actually makes you give a shit about food and consumable potions
>>741349605I do this in elder scrolls but then I noticed you just cast spells and since mana regenerates then you just convert blue bar to red bar
>>741349524Stamina does nothing in Skyrim so it may as well not exist as a mechanic.
>>741349597Even in a good engine a lot of the new designs for items and creatures are a miss, at least for me.
>>741349538Even circle 6 is pretty disappointing. I saw a dude standing in the middle of Gomez' throne room, cast rain of fire and it wasn't even big enough to reach the bastard sitting on his special chair. What a fucking waste of mana.
Are attack animations specific weapon dependent? I can't do picrelated move with the light two handed sword, I either get stab->pullout combo finisher or upward slash combo finisher. I can't do that thrust->flourish move shown here
I'm too good at this game
>>741349814Oh yeah, I should've mentioned that too. Thankfully nothing is outright horrible but it has become more generic across the board. Runes look like they're made of bloody plastic for example and I'm really looking forward to reskin mods.
wait i have like 90 dex, is pickpocketing now viable?
I like the canyon area. It has this rugged beauty to it, actually pretty comfy.
So how's that Of Ash and Steel game? Seen many people compare it to Gothic.
>>741350053I think that's because it's not a combo finishing thrust, just a regular one.
>minecrawler queen nest quest>need to round up 3 templars>only named ones can join and there's only 3 of them>one of them asks micrawler mandibles which I just used to make soup>they could have been killed earlier in the minecrawler attacksIs it me or does it feel like this can easily result in soft-locking?
Genocide is the correct way to play gothic right?especially of new campers
>>741350329It might. Did you already clear them all? If so you may need to reload cause I don't know if there are any more about.
>>741350329>>they could have been killed earlier in the minecrawler attacks?There are templars on lowest level, you can ask to join you.Just siting by some fire, not guarding the side corridors.
>>741349224what fucking fire arrows????
>>741350598he means fire bolt, the spell
>>741350625I was about to have a meltdown after finishing ranged-only playthrough thinking there's other kinds of arrows
So is this first case ever of remake not being a total disgrace?
>>741350496I had already cleared them all. I had to reload.>>741350587Yes, there's three of them and two are named. So there's 3 in total.
>>741350723People liked the RE4 remake, but yea it is really unusual.
>>741350329in original he asks for "2 or 3 templars to guard the entrance." I didn't check with the remake but getting 2 templars might be enough unless they changed that.
>>741350723Resident evil 2 remake exist
>one handed mastery>two handed mastery>orc weapons masteryI am a holocauster now
Don't cum don't cum don't cum don't cum don't cum
>>741349224I don't know, to me it seems like 2H + Crossbow is a combination of slow + slow, pure raw strength.
>>741350682>ranged-only playthroughhow did you deal with the final enemies? they require you use uriziel, or the rune, right?is just holding it in your pocket as a plot stick enough?
>>741350723Not the first but honestly I'm a bit shocked. This came from a demo that had nothing to do with Gothic. There was practically no hype for it, a lot of criticism, but the game came out and it gets a lot closer to how a remake should be than most. From the perspective of a loser that would always play every single Piranha Bytes title, if someone told me this was a remake done by them I would be fooled, jank and all.
>>741351347>shoots you with a heavy crossbowheh nothing personal buddy
>>741351767I called a friend who preordered it at 60% price a dumbass. Turns out I should have believed.
>>741352268Yeah I got a key for 30 eurobucks and people were telling me "eh what's the point"
>>741351602no they don't, I used my bow for the whole game except for taking down stone golems with melee
>>741352215>jumprolls in zigzag to you then beat your ass
>>741351354
>>741351354All of these mods and there's no nude mods for the 3 females in the fucking game
>>741352902>pulls out my bow and showers you with arrows
>>741342289Just finished the Game yesterday.It is surprisingly good. The scaling is bad tho, you become too powerful too quickly and enemies even chapter-matched enemies become too easy too quick. The beginning still punches you teeth in, so I immensely enjoyed that. I leveled whatever and had a good progression curve for the most part, str/dex/mana/other, but as soon as i invested in 20 str i felt overleveled. Also bugs galore, I had everything you could imagine happen once, then never again. It is the true Gothic experience alright.
>>741353028There is, actually.It's locked behind a paywall
>>741353410I did pay for porn before, but no.
Non-buynary
What's the last requirement for joining the new camp? I even donated 400 nuggs but the fucker won't take me in.
>>741353630Did you bring Lares the list from the old mine?
>>741353630When I did it Lares told me to do some more jobs for NC people but I wasn't going to join NC so I ignored hime.
>>741353704I took that to Diego
thanks for the 20 summon demon scrolls bitch
>>741353757stop elder abuse
>>741353739Well, should've brought it to Lares firstNo NC for you
>>741353739then you fucked up and cant join new camp anymore
>>741353874>>741353884any way to cheat this shit?
>>741353982nopego suck gomez cock
>>741353982https://github.com/Xetoxyc/gothic-remake-savegame-editorDon't bother if you're a brainlet, I won't help you.
>old campbeing gomez bitch>new campbeing rice lords bitch>swamp campfreedom and weed lmao
I saved all my points to play mage and it sucks and does no damage
>>741354016Did a bit of a research and seems like using a trainer could salvage this situation. Fuck Gomad and his bootlicking goons.
>>741354140>freedom and weed lmao>while space worm slowly eats your brainlel
>>741353757what happens if you do this? does he just get up and he's like "oh okay"? can you kill him?
>>741354319Yeah just like gomez in act 1 when you jump him for his sword or basically any gothic npc. it's a fun game for murderhoboing
>>741353410This guy is out of his mind if he thinks I am paying 11€ for a nude mod of some Npc, maybe if she was the main character otherwise fuck no
PARTY HARD
So does anyone know if permadeath is bugged or not? Like, when you die, you get sent back to the main menu and can't load your last save from that profile (ever), but the game still allows you to click Continue, which just loads your last save aynway. And once you save in-game, you can once again load your save? Like, what?
>wasted 30 pts on two hand training>when i could've just taken orcish mastery for freeAAAAAAAAAA
>>741354759Are Orc weapons even good in the remake? In the original you can find plenty of better "normal" weapons and their best draw was a 2H hammer
>>741354759no amount of orcish mastery comensates for orcish weapons being shit
>>741353982Yes, you can item spawn a new list. Don't ask me how
>>741354868idk but this one compares pretty well against innos' rage because of the damage typeespecially with mastery vs just trained, attacks really fast
>>741354759you didnt waste anything, youll have a good time in endgame
>>741354947Yeah I guess. But I could've been an extra magic circle or two higher by now if I just minmaxed a bit furtherI guess I'm efficient enough not getting one hand mastery first and waiting it out till I joined lee and the mercs
>>741344174Alkimia probably just copied the vanilla values without thinking. In original dex did not scale ranged damage so when you're dealing 40 damage armors having 10 or 20 arrow protection was a big deal. But I guess now if you're doing 140 damage with 100 dex it feels like a joke.
>>741354934yeah that's the hammer I was talking aboutOG Innos Rage dealt 110 but you had to kill Gomez to get it (very easy because genociding the Old Camp was one of the most commonly done things among all players)
>get gomez key>can't open the chest next to his bedis this a bug?
>>741355013You need 2h training for the literal-best weapon in the game anywayYou can safely reach both the 6th circle and high 2h proficiency
>>741339736And they are in total radio silence since last Friday kekI guess there's a big patch coming, or they are taking their time.
>They don't even fuck them they just force them to cook and clean
is it worth it to go over the cap with a stat? I have 121 STR
>>741355516The Valley lives and dies by the rules of gachimuchi
>>741355684not really unless you have literally nothing else to spend onYou'll be strong enough to deal with everything anyway
>>741355684Yes of courseStill uses the stat for damage calculation
Can I get both enough STR and DEX for both innos rage and the best crossbow? Think that's doable?
>>741355684short answer: you hit harder so yeslong answer: it doesn't really matter unless you cross certain thresholds allowing you to kill enemies fasterlook at it like this: you hit an orc with a weapon and he's still alive with 30 HP remainingthen you up your strength and try again and now he only has 5 remainingthat's kind of useless because you still have to hit him twiceif you manage to upgrade your strength so you can kill him in one hit, that's a good progress
>>741353410I would probably install if it was free but>paid mods
>>741339736This shit isn't cringesome desert
>>741355925I ended at level 35 which means 350 LP without any +STR/DEX potions so it's definitely doable.You're just not going to have as many LP to spend for other stuff.
>>741355925remember you also need points for skills not just stats
>>741355925Shouldn't you be aiming for Uriziel? It's stronger even without the gem, at least in the OG
>>741356123Yeah that's my issueWith 2H level 2 that I don't have I need at least another 40LP, my goodnessI think I set up myself for failure going for 2H + crossbows
>>741356217If uriziel works like in original it does not scale with strength, it just deals pure magic/fire damage stated in item description and that's it. It's only good to deal with the few enemies which can only be killed with uriziel.
>>741356217Isn't uriziel just 30 STR?I have 64 STR right now. I'm on early chapter 3 and just trained both 2H and crossbows 1 level.
>>741356329You can get to 117 STR before using any potions.
>>741356240There's also 30+ STR points you can get from stat potions, don't know how many DEX ones but I found over 20
>>741356360>117how?i know about the -10 str blunt debuf but teachers add +5 STR max, don't they?
>>741356240>I think I set up myself for failure going for 2H + CrossbowsYou kinda did because crossbows are just supposed to be a side weapon if you're going for a melee build. You're speccing in two different statsIn Gothic 2 (and/or the expansion) crossbows have no STR scaling but you get DEX swords and a very overpowered magical sword
Muk is cute I wanna adopt him
>Just got in here exploring at random.I'm gonna guess I'm meant to come here later.
>>741356521New Camp ore pile?
>>741355516 TAKA JEST POTĘGA MAGNATÓW !!! https://youtu.be/EiqZ8j38Mh4https://youtu.be/k_lxDoM6FgUhttps://youtu.be/-0FpNfBxkU8
>>741356596that one glows blue and looks like a pile
>>741356481You can train up to 112 in remake. When you hit 100, smoke 3 blunts and you get temporary -10 str and can learn +12 (some kind of rounding error). When debuff wears off you'll have 112 str and with Horatio's one-time training you can jump to 117.
>>741356661I'm genuinely asking because I have no idea where that is supposed to be based on my Original knowledgeThis looks way more like a Gothic 2 location
>>741356481+5 from Horatio (rice field worker) at new camp if you did a quest where it's revealed that he hates the rice lord.That's ultra minmax territory though in my opinion.No idea where he gets the additional +2 STR from.
>https://xetoxyc.github.io/gothic-remake-lockpicker/you didn't beat the game
>>741356815I tried it for one lock and it didn't even work.I have to admit I enjoy the lockpicking though. I'm always a bit disappointed when chests are not locked.
>>741355516I thought they lock the newest girl in gomez room until he's bored of her and then they get to do chores
what am I supposed to do? I killed the three orcs and nothing happened
>>741356738>you can jump to 117Nice.That one bogeyman sites list +43 from STR stat potions and I got +29 STR from rings and amulets.>189 STR totalNow I can punch orcs in the face even without a weapon.
>>741356492I still have low DEX (31) so I'll just focus on STR and use range attacks to poke shit I guess.
>>741356646I find myself whistling the old camp music way too much these days
>>741356749Xardy's old tower
>>741357303press F at the barrier nigga
>>741357303did you sneak in?
why nobody says that this guy is a free 2h sword from the start, you just need to talk shit to him>but you can just start mugging everyingyeah but I'm playing immersively
>>741357979>yeah but I'm playing immersivelyYou're a dirtbag criminal, play like one.>b-but muh headcanon about being innoc-FUCK YOUR HEADCANON, YOU'RE AN EVILDOER LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
>>741357979>free 2h swordyou're probably better off with 1h since you can't learn 2h skill immediately anywaythere's a free longsword that requires 30STR and hits for 40 if you take a swim in nearby sea
I just got the skilled 2H training but it made no difference whatsoever in the animations, do I need the mastered training for that?
second fucking time this faggot ass arab game didn't give me the prompt to interact with something and I had to reload a save
>>741358083>dirtbag criminalI'm not, I told gay guy that I was thrown because I have fucked a woman and fornicating with foids is illegal in kingdom of Myrthana>>741358181where exactly?
>>741339964And it's still bugged. Let me heal when I sleep, god dammit.
>>741358251if you have a good 1h stick with it until you get master
>>741358391My best 2H does like twice the damage of my best 1H.
>>741340382>irl everyone would prefer to be enslaved but drugged than enslaved but clear mindedThis feels like projection
>>741340931It's a bug that happens sometimes. Same thing happened to me with a scavenger at the old camp. No one gave a shit about it and it didn't give a shit about anyone except me.
>playing gothic 2>get to black troll>remember it being really powerful and hard to kill>use summon demon scroll I bought for 200g>it solos the troll in 5 secondsthis game is a lot more tamer than I remembered
>>741340870>shadow cucks sleep in the barracks.Shadows have huts. It's warders that go sleep in barracks inside the castle, for some reason. Sounds like a downgrade to me, but I guess it comes with the territory of being a Gomez cuck.
>>741340590Lockpicking is a bane. I looked up the solution to pick scatty's chest and it's 9 fucking steps. Who is actually gonna do that as a newbie?
>>741358642complete waste, just punch it in the ass for 5 minutestrolls are even easier that molerats
>>741358714>9 fucking stepslelbut it's just 4 platesthat's trivial even without any lockpicking upgrades
>>741358714that chest got me thinking the minigame was easy, it deceived me.
>>741358642G2 vanilla is super easyG2 NTR gets kinda toughstill, everything can be cheesed with a bit of skill and patience.
Is 1h/magic reasonably viable? It's my OG Gothic build always.I don't expect to be great, I know magic is quite shit, but as long as the game is doable i'm fine with it.
shit's dark
>>741358312>where exactly?You start from beach where guy teaching climbing lives, swim left.There's several shipwrecks and one of them has longsword inside.If you want something you can use even earlier, there's 20 STR Scepter weapon that hits for 24 on a corpse hanging inside some wreck too.There's also +1str potion, you can get both using tlekinesis - there are 2 scrolls right there.
>>741358940it's all same shipwreck location? there are more of them at fire lizard beach
>>741358795Yeah, so easy.
Is there a magnet link to the 1.0.1 update?
>>741358920it's a dark fantasy game, duh
Man I wish I could light torches permanently, nothing kills my enthusiasm like taking 2 steps and seeing the torch I just lit unlit.
>>741359119you sure that's shitty's chest?it shows 5 platesnot at home right now so can't check but all the 'story' chests like this one or Kor Calom's from which you need to steal the dreamjuice receip are baby mode
>>741358657because wardens are a paramilitary
>>741357979I do the same lol. I have Thorus' sword because he noticed me looting his room at night and I beat him up but I won't sell or equip it. I'll stick to this THOT guy's sword.
>>741359683It absolutely was because I just did it and it worked. There are 5 plates in scatty's lock. Just look at the steps and tell me that would be easy for a noob to do themselves.
>>741358083>murderhobo everything that looks like it has more that 10 ore worth of loot>"wow, all quests are bugged nobody talks to me, I didn't even do anything!!!"Also people get thrown into the barrier for petty crimes, NH could be a mass murderer psychopath or just bad pickpocket that got caught but is otherwise not violent at all.
>>741359616>can't even open a fucking chest without dropping that shitpisses me the fuck off
>>741360001>Just look at the steps...Amount of steps is irrelevant because you lack information about how plates move and how are they interconnected.I can easily come up with 7 plates puzzle that would require 20+ steps and still be trivially solved by total noob.Stop getting scared by list of moves that doesn't make sense because it lacks context.
>>741358642cringe zoomer tier (save those scrolls for the dragons)>>741358789based boomer tier>>741358858I honestly can't remember when was the first time I palyed NOTR. I'm not even sure if I played Gothic 2 vanilla lol. You have to know what you are doing but once you start rain of fire'ing those fucking orcs around the castle? That's worth the struggle.
>>741360463The context is fucking dumb. No lock has ever worked like this. It doesn't make sense. The fact I hear people complain in every thread about locks taking 40 minutes to complete should tell you it's a stupid fucking system.
I love crossbows
>>741360747Why are you even preaching that shit here?I am not going to fix it.I didn't manage to solve a handful of tough chest but most are perfectly doable.>40 minutes How much of that time was complaining about it on /v/?30 minutes?
>>741360595>You have to know what you are doing but once you start rain of fire'ing those fucking orcs around the castle?You only get rain of fire for the last dungeon, until then you have like 3 or 4 scrolls of rain of fire in the game.So you must basically know when it's correct to use them or you might get fucked.Fuck your build too much? Yeah well you're not killing any dragon because they regenerate half their health in two seconds so you're now soft-locked.
>>741360932Everyone who has done them legitimately has that same complaint about them. You took responsibility when you decided to defend a shitty system.
>>7413610780>You took responsibility when you decided to defend a shitty system.Are you ok?Do you have brain damage?
>>741360996>You only get rain of fire for the last dungeon, until then you have like 3 or 4 scrolls of rain of fire in the game.I distinctly remember aggroing as many orcs as I can, casting 2-3-4 rain of fire to get a wall of exp then chugging mana potions in my heavy or whatever robe of fire. Rinse and repeat. Rain of fire is a 5th circle rune.
>>741361123>Come in to defend system>Get told off>Why are you telling me? I can't do anything about itYou're gay, bro.
>>741361248No man that was in Gothic1, in G2 Rain of Fire is the screen-wide nuke from circle 6.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/561413-gothic-ii/faqs/28747You're probably thinking of large fire storm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvXypf6wTLE&t=6shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1GaXtjOhyI&t=6036s
So I already did 2 runs and am thirsty for more. Apparently Gothic 2 has been ported to UE. Does this also have the same issue as the og UE port where attacking doesn't halt the player's movement at all? The classic on UE is basically unplayable because it's way too easy to kite enemies.
>>741361720why the fuck would you play those shitty ports and not actual thing
>>741360303Use the toggle torch mod bro. That constant torch dropping is so awful.
>>741359767Good call. I just did my second run as a 2-hander chad and I got Thorus's sword pretty early. There basically wasn't any threat from anything for remainder of the game. It wasn't too long afterwards I picked up Innos' Rage from Gomez as well. Skipped most of the side content just to push through to the end. You get too powerful too fast in the remaster.
>>741361765Because I've already played the original games like ten times and I just want some kind of new angle. Now answer my question or sit down, rat.
>>741361937you get OP slower if you just don't mug npcs you know>>741362001just play it with mods instead of shitty ports
>>741361508You are right about the specificshttps://www.worldofgothic.com/gothic2/?go=g2magiebut I still massacred the orcs with this, now I kinda remember leaving them alive and going back for some sweet sweet exp boost (but more importantly genocide) before setting sail. I'm pretty sure I even have some old saves on my HDD, some might be a mage run.
106 dex in chapter 1gonna pause the lvling and move on with the story
>>741362038>you get OP slower if you just don't mug npcs you knowI laugh at your measly 100xp gains you dunning-kruger peon. There's powerspikes us vets know that you are yet to even discover, such as early amulet into Stonecrusher to run around with 40 damage swings in Ch1. Don't lecture me, boy.>just play it with mods instead of shitty portsI've already done those runs as well. Are you brown since you struggle to respond to the precise question I raised? Don't reply further with your uneducated crap.
>>741362041What i'm understanding is that you pulled them to the broken thing that acts as a bridge to the castle, and then you nuked them with AoE spells?That's a known "exploit" as they're scripted to not follow you to the castle so they clump up nicely.Otherwise you just used the C6 Rain of Fire which is what some people do, but those scrolls are quite limited and you learn the rune much much later.
>>741362307Or I guess you could've just learned circle 6 and gone back there to clean house with the rune, but that's basically at the end of the game, you can only learn circle 6 when you're ready to sail to Irdorath.
>>741361549Ah yes, very nice
>>741343563UE is so fkn ugly holy shit
>>741362384that is exactly what I wrote lolanyway I found saves from 2015 now I'm kinda curious
>>741361720>attacking doesn't halt the player's movement at all?Haven't played it myself but yesterday someone here complained about the UE port doing exactly that and that you can cheese the entire game from level 1 with it.
When I see a mage start castin'I some in swinging to bash their head inRobes and gore, spilled on the floor2 hand master race thanks to sword of beliar
demon princes are much easier to defeat than these fucking temple orcs
>>741363793high temple guards have insane damage resistances and HP ontop way too high damage with way too much reachthe second time I had to enter the tempel I just ran past all that shit because I cba
>refuse to pay the guy asking for protection money>guy "warns" me that he sent goons after me when I already dealt with them>he asks for 10 ore in rewardMoron, if I had 10 ore I would've paid the guy in the first place
>>741339840the only reason i bought the remake was to fund the gothic 2 remake btw2 >>>>>>>>>>>> 1 > 3
>>741363793How are you even supposed to deal with the knockdown? Learn acrobatics and only dodge? As if the hyper armor wasn't enough already.
>fire lizards are half the size, give half the xp and are easy as fuck to killwhat a fucking disgracethose motherfuckers would KO you in 2 seconds even at end game
>>741364279If they don't remake the sex cinematic, I'm not buying
>>741361720This is probably the coziest camp/base in the game, especially the tavern.
>>741345951>train lockpicking to master>take like 30 or so minutes to learn how the system works>lockpicking is easytry learning for once, i know its a foreign concept for you mentally retarded shitbirds
>>741364390they have bullshit range so dodge isn't that much help either
>>741343563Wtf. Everyone has been saying how great the old camp armor is and it's completely mogged by new camp
>>741364913Nah, old camp armor has better stats. Which is the only thing that matters unless you're a woman.
FUUUUUUUUUUUCK I WANNA PLAY MOER GOTHIC SO BAAAD MAAAN GIVE ME FUCKING ARCHOLOS 2.0000000000000 AAAAAARGH
>>741358642>use summon demon scroll in old camp>it loses to a diggerThis is how I know you played on easy mode, cause on Hard, summons are fucking WORTHLESS.
>>741365586play Golden Gate 2
Since the New Camp is a free for all pvp server can I just beat up everyone out there for exp?
>>741358714no one. the single biggest place in which the remake dropped the ball is the cancerous new lockpicking systemdo yourself a favor and just download the mod that lets you press F6 and have it be auto solved for you. even with it occasionally crashing the game its worth it to not have to engage with the shit tier lockpicking system
>>741358868no not reallygo two handed strength chud or ranged only dexfag crossbows, no in betweens
>>741360927damn, a good-looking crossbow. where'd you find that?
>>741365851You can beat up everyone everywhere, others will only join in if they can see you do it. Do it at night and you can beat up everyone all quiet like.
How is it even possible that this still doesn't have a Deck rating? Do they keep resubmitting it to delay it? For what fucking purpose?
>>741366071guess I'm spending my entire chapter 1 beating everyone I see, I wonder what level I will end up
>>741365851They can get quite pissy and gank up on you.If that happens get on a roof and get shot by a bow. That way, they won't loot you or kill you.Once you wake up again, you can continue the pinata party.
>>741364564Spoken like yet another worthless motherfucker that hasn't actually tried opening some of the more difficult chests (or master lockpicking which is bugged for that matter)
I think I found a bug with the going past 100 str method.Dunno about other numbers, this is the only one I tried.>I tried this with DIEGO 3 times, every time same outcome>!!HAVE AT LEAST 12 LEARNING POINTS!!>be base 100 str without any jewellery>smoke 2 dreamcalls (-10 str)>train for str: +5, +5, +1, +1>on the side +4, +4, +1, +1 str will pop up (not real)>wait for the weed effects to go away>now you trained to 112 strAnyone else tried this? Same results?
>>741366121If you're quick and can knock them out in 1-2 hits and then quickly sheathe your weapon again, others won't aggro even if they see you do it. Gothic is a great bully simulator.
>>741366349Yeah it's known and was already discussed earlier. Hope you saved Horatio's training so you can bump it to 117.
>>741340382Or I could find a way to get high without living in a shithole populated by faggots.
>>741366275lockpicking 1 is enough. and the difficult chests are a total meme. they just start in stuck position and you always need to move 2 plates back and forth to move a third and then use that momentum to equalize the plates.
>>741366437>Hope you saved Horatio's training so you can bump it to 117.fuuuuuck
>>741366437>>741366743frankly youve already broken the game over your knee at that point so its not that big a dealits like complaining that your morrowind potion pause spam has put your stats at 10,000 instead of 15,000
Can you make yourself biggerI hate how scrawny the protagonist is, looks retardedMods or cheats, dunno
Hi. First time playing Gothic 1. It was fun until this asshole Mud kept bugging me. I went outside camp and murdered his annoying ass. The two New Campers saw it and said it had nothing to do with them. Nobody in camp cares about Mud being dead. Great game. Would recommend.
>>741366861>brokendominated*
>>741366275>(or master lockpicking which is bugged for that matter)just because you are stupid, doesn't mean its a bugplenty of people have no issue unlocking everythingeven mentally retarded streamers are figuring it out, you aren't dumber than a stoner streamer, are you?
>>741367251>dominated on your kneedoesn't sound right
>>741366898Just go full-on twink homo and service Gomez.
>>741366861>its like complaining that your morrowind potion pause spam has put your stats at 10,000 instead of 15,000But how can I crash the game at 10000 once I melee swing? You need at least 15000 to crash it.
>>741366861You can fuck right off if you've only played the originals, boomer. You wouldn't break this one even if your stats were over 200. I've played with 140 Dex and temple orcs still take 4 head shots to die.
>>741367396i HAVE played the originals asshat and the reason that orcs take so much to die in the OG even with 140 dex is because ranged is garbage and has terrible scaling in the OG like melee does, you dumb dumb zoomer ass piece of garbage.
>>741366349they remove stat potions?gay
how long is this supposed to take?
>>741367642>they remove stat potions??there are multiple potions for increasing base stats but you still have to wait until the train limit to use them if you want to minmax
when does wolf actually finish his ugly-ass bug armor?
>>7413680922 days
>>741368092when you have the ulu-muluit's triggered by main quest progress and not actual days passing ingame
I'm exploring the map and started to massacre the outlaw camp at the troll canyon and I have a question.I had a quest failed pop up (interrogating the dude in the castle dungeon). Which faction can get this quest and when? I loaded and earlier save and left them alone just to be sure I don't fuck up any potential quest xp.Also, are there any other instances where you can kill something way earlier and soft/hard lock yourself? Or just simply lose a quest?
>>741366743May I ask what is the purpose of any of this. You need 95 STR to wield Gomez's 2hander and that already 2 shots everything outside of zombie orcs. Also by the time you're nat 80+ STR the game is basically already over and there's no threats left in the world. What's the point? You're just extending the playthrough instead of starting over and trying something else on harder difficulty.
>>741368202oh well. guess I'll do the temple in Templar armor. It should be enough anyway.
>>741368092>get bandit armor>wait there's armor upgrading now? thats pretty cool thats new>terribly expensive though>suddenly get a premonition>refuse to upgrade bandit armor at all, play through the game and suffer horribly with shit like snappers and those orc scouts practically 2 hitting me>power through it anyway with sheer fucking skill>do Lee's quest and get into the mercs>immediately spend my enormous windfall of saved ore to max upgrade merc armor>snappers literally cannot even scratch me any more and even orcs have trouble damaging meits so fucking cathartic honestlyno idea why they added upgrades that 'focused' on elemental damage though its not like thats common. funnily enough its actually the fucking bloodflies that are now the most threat to me because they deal point damage and armor is generally shit against point damage across the board. even in chapter 3 i cant get away from the goddamn bloodflies
>>741368325what? you need the ulu-mulu to enter the temple
>>741368274number must go up
>>741368375yea but I forgot to visit wolf and I'm already there.
Damn the spellcasting animations are actually a huge improvement over the old gothics and risen 1, actually makes playing a wizard feel cool as fuck.
>>741368230I killed the 2nd big troll before ulu mulu quest and had to save edit the quest item in
>>741368274>he doesn't get it
>mak'gorawhy are the orcs so warcrafty
>>741368230>I had a quest failed pop up (interrogating the dude in the castle dungeon). Which faction can get this quest and when?from the dudes you just murdered fooljust talk to the guy in front of the door
>>741368569He tells me to fuck off with every dialogue option (I'm a novice).So that means I can spill some more blood?! Hell yeah!
>>741368640dunno how it is for swamp camp but you get a quest from Lee to deal with them once you become a merc in new camp
>>741368443Isn't magic weak as shit in the remake?
Whoa. Orc weapons suck ass. Stupid monkeys.
>>741368952It's actually broken with how efficient the bolt spells are in terms of damage per mana and damage per secondThe big issue is that the bolt spells fall off hard after chapter 3 because most enemies gain a bit of magic resistance and the higher circle spells all suck
>finally managed to get the Templar armoroh I'm Conanmaxxing nowtoo bad 2H training cost an arm and a leg, I don't even have one to begin with,I don't have enough nuggies to buy a schematic, and I don't have enough strength to use it anywayyikes
How the fuck am I suppose to make money early game? I'm poor as dirt and everyone around me is poor as dirt and quests give no money.
>summoned skeletons by the skeleton mage don't give xpyeah this is bullshit, maybe make the game so it won't endlessly spam the motherfuckers?!
>>741361720Okay to answer my own question, I booted it up and sure enough, this port is fucked up as well. Experienced players will immediately know being able to move like this while also attacking completely breaks the game. If you are on the dev team of this port and are reading this, you don't understand at all what Gothic is about.
>>741369107>The big issue is that the bolt spells fall off hard after chapter 3 because most enemies gain a bit of magic resistance and the higher circle spells all suckSo it's bad, then.
>>741369157steal shit from the chests in old camp
>>741369157robbery
>>741369157Go to the swamp camp and get tasked with collecting the weeks haul of weed from the two harvesters. Instead of handing it forward as the quest suggests, go sell it to a plug at the new camp. You'll have to figure out the rest on your own. This is just one of the many ways to get ahead.
>>741369224Only most of it.
>>741369157>>741369294Do NOT listen to this thug. Join the swamp camp and eventually everything will be fine.
>can't just slaughter my way through the orc camp cause Ur-shak is immortal
>>741369449>Joining Krushak's concubine cultlmao
>>741369449This sounds like stoner propaganda.
>>741369157goblins, harvest their morning stars
im getting fucking raped by molerats, how do you dodge in this game? is there a way to learn their patterns to sidestep and shit?
>>741369449You think I stopped there? I also took the drunk weed niggers haul and sold it all to Cipher, never gave the slacker his cut back. I might go back and KO him just for the fun of it the next time I'm around. Fuck lethargic weed niggers.
>>741369652that has to be fixed at some point right? makes no sense that goblins have better weapons than goblin warriors
>>741369662dodge with altcheck the glossary, it has all the tutorials
Bros... I just figured out... Skyrim Stealth is in the game.The people in the Mine are free, you just have to shoot them with an arrow and lure them to you alone. I have over 394 maces now.
>>741369481can't you skip the whole thing by giving the one retarded orc some of snafs stew
>>741369662Yes, you will learn dark souls rolling from New Camp eventually. However if you are getting filtered by molerats on a fresh character you haven't grasped the basic mechanics yet either. The loading screen instructional messages refer to being "trained" in thing such and such. In Gothic, that means having thing trained via dialogue unlock.
>>741369729>glossaryholy fucking soul, these moors are alright
gothic 1 remake the -one- game that has tearing even with VRR enabled
>>741369662learn acrobatics (some guy in the new camp, look up the guys name if you need to) it gives you a roll dodge al a dark souls.i bound a macro on my controller to double tap RB, pretty handy.
>>741369834It also tells you who likes you, who hates you, who is what trainer and trader and who had an untimely demise."He is dead now."
>>741368952Magic was never all that great across the entire franchise. It's fun.
Why is Vsync not only off by default, but greyed-out as well? I can't pick it.
>>741369830no idea, didn't have any on me.
>>741369872Rolling makes you miss out on counterattack window on several enemies, there's a reason the roll is behind two inputs.
>>741369919"I met Mud.""He is dead now."
>>741370020>he didn't do the secret Mud quest
I don't know how I feel about finding orc and Sleeper related shit already on the starting zone
>>741370020big mistake
>>741369926This is the harsh truth. Magic run is for making a quicksave in the center of a settlement, Rain of Firing everyone dead. Then promptly reloading and continue the run in agony. Melee chads just have a good time whacking everything in glorious close quarters combat.
>>741369872>>741369991yeah, the roll is nothing like the dark soulssingle tap is for dodging short fast attacksdouble tap is for dodging big attacks with slow wind upsI only realized in chapter 3 that the dodgel roll isn't strictly better
>>741365560Is it even worth upgrading the Shadow armour? I just got it after spending 20h in chapter one and it's worse than miners trousers.Or should I just save my money for the next set.
>>741370128This is an exaggeration, except in G2 NOTR which is practically a challenge run because of LP constraints magic runs are as braindead and easy even if straight up worse than melee.
>>741369775and each mace has a total value of what 5 ore after you sell a few?
>>741368230that was a New Camp quest from Lee to investigate that outlaw campnothing gamebreaking. the reward for it is only 100 ore
>>741370086pretty sure you couldn't climb there in demo, dunno why they chaned it
>>741345951i love this lockpicking. it's filtering so many smoothbrains.
>>741369991well, i still have my RB as standard dodge, i just assigned the double tap to a separate button on the controller.
>>741369870Yeah I know, it's fucking unreal
>>741370209better than spending over 500 ore for fucking teeth and claw pulling. I have been had. I have to make up my losses somehow.Supply/Demand based trading is cool but it fucks me currently.
>>741370198Whenever I play NOTR I just Marvin Mode to counteract the increments of LP costs. Yeah purists will freak out, but try it some time. It just makes the pacing better and I'm not forced to farm out Jharkendar before I can enjoy the rest of the game. I don't know why they felt necessary to add that feature at all.
>>741345951The only issue with lockpicking is that the difficulty of the lock is unrelated to the chest's contents. That's the only real flaw.
>>741370323Over the course of the game it does make its money back if you sell to mages and then there's troll and shadowbeast fur.
>>741370274It didn't filter anyone. We've all completed the game by now and nobody has time to sit through the lockpicking on a second run. F6.
>>741370375Get the mod that gives you 20 lp instead of 10 per level up.You "get on top" sooner and counteract the scaling later.Don't tell anyone else tho, because it makes the game fun and we gothic fans hate fun, right?
>>741370093what the helly
>>741368554they ported the gothic 3 wow orcs over
>>741370378There was a long time between the G2 and NOTR release and the community was reallly vocal about how the game is way too easy so the developers put in a bit more of a challenge
>chapter 5, about to begin chapter 6>still got the quest to loot ulbert's chest in the old mine>never even found aleph in the game
>>741370375>forced to farm out JharkendarAttitude issue, I do that shit for fun. The feature was added because enough people autism'd their way through Gothic so hard they beat the game in chapter 2 with closed eyes. PB took that personally.
god I just wanna slaughter them so bad. fuck Ur-shak he should have stayed in exile.
>>741370375Yeah I don't care i've been hating on NOTR scaling ever since the very beginning. I hate that they didn't bother putting a toggle. I don't think you can realistically play mage blind on that, there's so many ways to fuck your build and get soft-caped on dragons or somewhere else.
>>741370473>we gothic fans hate fun, right?Wrong, we simply don't feel the fun unless we also feel like our teeth were kicked in. You might understand the feeling when you grow older.
>>741370543Sure, the expansion is great, but NOTR difficulty and LP scaling pigeonholes you into having to go there early or else your build won't flourish until way later. Gothic is about player agency and they removed that in NOTR with that simple change.
>>741370086the goblin there is kicking my assholy shit are nights dark
Where are the pillars that teach you about Orc burial rites?
>>741369870For some reason, vysnc is forced off with just upscaling even though it is frame generation that disables vsync, I had to force it on in ayymd software
>>741370514Normally that quest should autofail once the mine is flooded, congrats on your glitch.>>741370664Never saw it that way since I love Jharkendar and also think the ruined valley of mines is fucking boring. I generally speedrun chapter 2 while taking me sweet as time with what is essentially chapter 1.2.
>>741370768pick up the mushroom from the dead orcs where the guy teaches you how to use orc weapons, then talk to the guard
People shit on Risen 2 but I like the Mesoamerica setting of it and Risen 2 & NotR's Jharkendar were pure kino for itono palaver gucho
Best way to currently play Gothic 2? Heard a unreal remaster was being done
Where the fuck does Wolf go during the day? I can never fucking find him when he's not in front of his hut.
Can I loot anything from the skeleton mages? I whooped his ass but he clipped into the wall so I can't loot him lol.
>>741370887doesn't he chill on a bench above where butch is?
>>741370867Unreal might be a good way to start though I dunno if it's finished. Otherwise I would recommend Nostalgia mod because it's basically the original game with more polishing.
>>741370768The shaman talks about murals, which aren't pillars. You can see the solution on the wall murals in the pathway to the orc arena, although the other anon already spelled it out for you.
>>741370887You should check inside his hut
>>741370887the hut directly above the campfire where he usually stands, it's full of animal skinshe is either inside or sharpening shit on the grindwheel in front
>>741370514>t. casual
>>741370867>>741370932It's not a good way to play at all because of video related (>>741369193). This is going to allow you to cheese every rough part and you'll be playing a fetch quest instead of seeking alternative solutions to overcome tough enemies. I have no idea why these retards think this combat is acceptable.
>>741371030So what do you suggest?
>>741370867Play Gothic 2 Gold with the 2.6.0.0 patch, Playerkit 2.8, SystemPack 1.8 in this order. Then play the remake when its out so you get to appreciate them both.
>>741370952yea I saw the murals but I kept looking for pillars because that's what they said in the polish version.I did check the murals but I couldn't figure out that he was picking something off the corpse and not putting something on it. also completely missed the moldy corpse.>>741370820thank you, anon. can't wait to get this part over with.
Apparently they have fixed the mixing in the Polish dub.I can't tell, because on my headphones, there is barely any difference.
>>741371072Playerkit, Systempack, DX11. That should be the out-of-box GoG version as far as I know. I also use Vurt's textures, but this will divide the crowd.
>>741370952>>741371119I was stuck there looking for the actual pillars to read for like half an hour, it's a shit design
>>741370664>NOTR defenders after reloading save 5 times to get +str instead of dex off innos shrine prayer
>>741371162I have the steam ver that I bought years ago and forgot about
where are god tier bows above 60dmg? dont tell me they are chapter locked
>>741370578John Gothic is a canonical Orc hater.
>>741371180>he doesn't come to innos shrine with 2000 gold and gets both bonuses which are guaranteed as mercenary the best factionskill issue
>>741371180Yeah it's just cluttered with stupid bullshit like this where you're trying to make the game do thing X, whereas the first game just lets you develop whatever you want.
>>741371180The real trick is to accept the dex too and just pray for longer.Innos be praised.
>>741371230the shipwreck on the beach has an insanely good bow available from chapter 1, all you need is climbing and a telekinesis scroll
>>741371216That should be patched up just slap on DX11 for dynamic lightning and you're good to go. Just beware enemies hit hard as fuck if you're playing with NOTR.
>>741371354is NOTR the dlc?
>>741371315I already have itkek
Just wait for Gothic 2 remake, niggers. The original barely runs.
>>741371381Night of the Raben, yes it is.
NOTR is baby mode until you play one of the mods on nightmare or legendary modes. You could easily clear NOTR deathless and some people cleared it damageless, not a single hit taken the entire game. You guys need to git gud or at very least stop bitching.
>>741371430Any advice for beginners of 2?
>>741371395>above 60dmgI omitted that part ehthose are chapter locked I think
>>741371410>The original barely runs.UUUU
>>741371478Quicksave often
>>741370653Boy...If you play less then 100 hours Gothic per week (all 3 games (now 4) combined), lower your weapon when talking to me.
I've been thinking about finally playing Gothic 3
>>741371478Work hard pray hard.It's best if you know what build you're going for and don't waste you LP. The cost of LP jumps at intervals of 30, so if you have 29 str, pay for 5 more points instead of going one by one or going over in other ways.
>>741371257I'm shocked there's no option to betray them and I'm forced to engage with their barbaric culture. This feels so out of character.
bros I'm starting to think that gothic players are casuals relying on cheats and exploits...
>>741371478save all your consumables that permantently increase stats until the LP cost for them is too expensive
>>741371478Loot the tower.Don't miss Lester.Don't let the merchant help you.
>>741371257>>741371660the reason that john gothic is a Certified Orc Hater is BECAUSE he was forced to put up with the savages in order to get out of the colony
>>741371734Hell yeah that's the advice I'm askin for
>>741371660You can just ignore the whole part with their culture by bribing one of the orcs and sneaking into the temple, they'll find out and send some goons after you into it
>>741371660You do know you can just slaughter them all and still finish the game.
>>741371802What do you use to bribe an ork, cooked meat?
>>741371478Be nice to the nameless bandit in the beginningdon't trust Canthardon't eat King's sorrel, Dragonroot or Goblin berries
>>741371885meatbug ragout
>>741371478Talk to lares before talking to lothar
>>741371478I followed this bong's guide to polishing it up a bit and it's been stable. Yeah, steer far away from the UE port, those devs have no clue what they are doing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lMjOHS9MbM
>>741371931Figures
>>741371782Oh and let Beliar fuck you for max HP once in the tower. EZ starting gold.
>>741366071Even named characters? Is there any lasting bad impression/downside?
>>741372007It seems bugged in the remake right now. I beat up Cor Angar and stole his sword and he didn't mind at all.
>>741372007No, you can literally just teleport/run away to a different camp and sleep for 24 hours and everything will be gucci between you and whoever you beat up.
>>741371989>Oh and let Beliar fuck you for max HP once in the tower. EZ starting gold.>permanent malus for temporary gain???
>>741371989I really like those little interactions you get to do with the gods.
>>741371802Ur-shak aggroes onto me and he's immortal. I guess I could run but it feels lame.
>>741372079You're wrong, this is exactly how it was in the original game. You could fuck up anyone, take their shit, and they'd brush it off. Chavo was put in just to clear the aggression timer faster or to fix a soft-lock.
>>741372113Nah, just sleep it off mate.
>>741372113You really need that fucking gold at the start and over the course of the game you literally multiply you HP pool.
>>741372113You lose like 3hp and you'll be running 1000 hp late game, gothic games are always hard at the start by the late game it won't matter at all
>>741372191BUT IT'S MAX HP
>>741372147I'm pretty sure NPCs got made if they saw you carrying their weapon. Might just be a cut feature put into some mod I played.
>>741372271bruh you can farm INFINITE MAX HP from innos by trading gold for hp powerup once the str/dex/mana bonuses have been exhausted
>>741372235I love how Beliar just flat out lies to you with that description.
>>741372271IT'S INSIGNIFICANT IN THE LONG RUN
>>741372235Fuck that. 3hp can and will be the difference between life and death. It has happened to me so many times. Being in 1 hp.
>>741372271Dude. Like. Gold.It's shiny and you need it early.
>>741372312What description?>>741372315Are you meant to pray to Beliar just once?
>>741372401once or twice, the extra gold at the start helps a ton
>the G2'tism is to spend 2 hours running around cheesing the game to gain a bit of gold instead of giving up 3 max hp
>>741372401the line of text at his statue
>>741369157>talk to npc>man do you have any animal pelts? i'll buy em at a high priceITS THAT SHRIMPLEpeople are so spoiled these days on npcs having infinite money and buying everything no matter what
>>741372452Max HP > You
>>741372493Too bad Wolf is a fucking liar
Where am I supposed to find those algae for the scavenger riding trainer? Is it supposed be some specific lake?
>>741372493I might be stupid because I have no idea what you mean by that greentext.
>>741372580You can find them in any river or lake
>>741371619overhated but prepare to get your ass handed to you by beasts, no dodging, blocking doesn't do shit, just smack each other in the face until you come out on top if you don't you get the best death scream while beautiful and moving real orchestra plays in the background
>>741372528You don't pray to Beliar because you want to keep your HP.I don't pray to Beliar because I am a Champion of Innos.We are not the same.(at least on my Paladin runs)
>>741372580The lake where the new camp bar is in the middle of
>>741372580nigga press M
>>741372580they are kinda hard to see and more towards the center but you can find them in the lake surrounding the new camp tavern
>>741371619If you do go magic it's the only sane way to play the game
>>741372580the easiest place to find them is in the new camp lake.no there is nothing hostile in the water. the lurker that the dam guy is pissing his pants about only hangs around on LAND on a particular shore line; the one on the other side from where the tavern is
>>741372605>I might be stupid because I have no idea what you mean by that greentext.talking to random npcs beyond their intial dialog sometimes opens them up for quests or turns them into a vendorcertain npcs can also pay more money for specific items
>>741372631MAPS COST A FORTUNE NIGGER I CAN BARELY TO AFFORD FOOD AND THE DAILY SHAKEDOWN BY THE GUARDS NIGGA
>>741372713just beat them up, the guards a not real lmao
>>741372580those are those purple things that are always in lakespolish version for some reason names them differently in quest
>>741372704>talking to random npcs beyond their intial dialog sometimes opens them up for quests or turns them into a vendorFor real? I had no idea this was a thing.
>>741372623I played it over 18 years ago and still remember that scream>>741372679that's what I was thinking, anything to avoid that clickfest of a combat
>>741372713>he pays>filtered by locksJust take the L and get that pickass. They got a warm spot for you in the mine. You are not THAT guy this playtrough.
>>741372791random named NPCs but yes its real
>>741372761You are just baiting me to get killed. You bully.
>>741372831Bro why is every lock a Silent Hill hard mode puzzle?
>>741372910Lemme guess, you also like animals?Mud will share a bed with you, if you are scared of the dark.
>>741372910They just stand in 3 spots that are very easy to avoid, just walk around them kek
>>741372386What for?
>>741372980it's a reminder how incompetent your player character is at the start
>>741373009To pray to Innos of course.
>>741372910lol no hes notthe game takes place in a PRISON COLONY. diego flat out tells you in no uncertain language that strength is all anyone respects in there, like any prisonyou can beat the shit out of almost anyone at any time for any reason and unless you go for a killing blow, people around will just watch and cheer and be entertainednow if you go attacking the more organized people like thorus and the warders, youll have a lot of people out for your shit, but some random bitch ass digger? no one cares.hell if you actually paid the protection money to the guards (and youre a cuck if you did) then they wont even help the guy because when two people both paid, the guards dont stop either. the irony is that despite the guards constantly trying to squeeze ore from you for 'protection', no one in the old camp EVER tries to mug you or beat you up out of nowhere; the only exception being that one guys if you dont pay it and even then he only does it because the guards got on his ass about it
>Anon gets bullied in video games too
>>741371478I forgor the most important one: SAVE YOUR APPLES. BUY ALL APPLES. STEAL ALL APPLES. DON'T EAT APPLES UNTIL YOU KNOW ITS TIME!
>>741373102>the game takes place in a PRISON COLONY. diego flat out tells you in no uncertain language that strength is all anyone respects in there, like any prisonBro this is high school all over again. I think I might really be soft because I paid twice.
>>741373204does 1 have same thing with rice or I misremember things
>>741373102don't forget the guy who "killed a dozen".Earliest litmus test to see if you are a cuck or a chud.
>>741373238>because I paid twice
>>741373143>guys i've been stuck in the new mines for 12 hours mining ore and handing it over to the digger who told me to start digging, when does the game start?
>>741373268Gives you 1str after 25 apples.
>>741373358yeah but I remember rice doing same thing somewhere
>>7413732681 doesn't have bonuses given by food
>>741373328Imagine if digging gave you a flat str bonus after a set time.You'd see alot of people afk mining for a while.
>>741373238it absolutely is. convicts are convicts because they're immature dumbasses. they are literally still in the teenager mindset and are not mentally adultsthis is a truism which people dont like confronting because it applies to damn near all minorities except asians, but thats a separate topicpaying the protection money only makes you seem as even weaker and someone to take advantage of. not even the guards you are paying will respect you. if you want respect, you have to beat the fucking shit out of anyone who gives you DISrespect, such as a guard who is implying that youre too weak to take care of or protect yourself by demanding protection money from youjust like highschool even trying to knock some sense into someone who disrespects you and you fail and get your ass kicked is still seen as better and more respectable than folding and ignoring or submitting to such disrespect
>>741373268Many consumables in G2 give you minor permanent stat boosts after eating a fuckton of them. So the biggest cleptomaniac hoarder autists spend like an hour consuming whatever they can just before the final boss.
>>741373479Well, I usually down my apples before the second visit to the colony.
>>741373432the funniest part is that in the OG game, you could mine the ore outcroppings and you got NOTHING for doing it. you would literally never receive even one ore nuggetin the remake you get like, 3 per little outcropping thingie and 1 if theyre exhausted, which i think i sdumb
>>741373479I only know about apples and Dark shrooms, what else is there?
>>741373632shrooms are a waste of time. 50 for 1 mana.better to sell it off or give it to the alchemy master for xp.UNLESS you plan a mage run.
>>741373569>in the remake you get like, 3 per little outcropping thingie and 1 if theyre exhausted, which i think i sdumbThats kinda fair, considering how in the remake, they added this dumb price reduction thing when selling to vendors which devalues stuff.
>>741373717I only run with Nostalgia mod where giving them to Constantino as his apprentice nets you 1 mana per 10 shrooms.
>>741373717I meant +5 mana.
>>741370196I had plenty of ore to spare so might as well, it'll make chapter 2 into easy mode and it's better than mage armor if you decide to go that route.
>>741373569OG Gothic 1 is officially unfinished, lots of stuff is simply missing, not working or cut. Ore is there just for the miners as background animations because the devs weren't expecting you to actually pick it up. Remember that the ore is a currency because the convicts find it basically useless, even though this shit is a powerful magic mineral. Now, ore in Gothic 2 is also canonically in high demand and low supply, same applies to gold in Jarkendar, so there is some point in digging it. You find maybe 40 individual ore nuggets in G2 + expansion.
>>741373784Was?!Using mods?FOR CONVENIENCE?!We don't do zat in Khorinis!
I have 20 LP and 25 str. Should I get more strength or one handed mastery?
>>741373954Get some str, 25 doesn't let you use anything proper
>>741373951Don't worry, I make up for it by playing mage.
>>741373954if you intend to go 2h then you can skip one handed mastery. medium is enough. just pump str
>>741373954Get Mastery once you hit a wall. Always strength.
>>741374091pick those weeds, boy.
>>741374181My path to divine Power is paved by weeds and sheep sausage.
>>741342289Shockingly good, especially when you consider how it started out.Anyone remember the "playable teaser" that started with a fucking Michael Bay sequence?
I dig the bleakness
>>741374246I still cringe remembering how MC spoke 2 lines of dialogue to himself for every step taken.
>>741374273Storms look great, I just want some proper fucking colour.
>>741374242You know, I could eat another sausage... how about you give me yours?
>>741373632Mushrooms: +5 manaApples: +1 strengthThekla's stew: +1 strengthSnaf's stew: +1 strengthLou's Hammer(?): +1 manaCoragon's special beer: +1 mana +3 HPDragonroot: +1 Strength (better spent on turning it into potions)Goblin berries: +1 Dexterity (better spent on turning it into potions)
>>741374384Fuck off mate
>>741374392Don't forget the mana and health plants. You don't need to turn them into potions tho. Not enough reagents and str/dex potions are more important.
>>741347201>laughs in Harpy
>>741373423NTA but thanks. I've been hoarding everything
>>741374315the fanbase rightfully reamed the shit out of them for making that and they got the fucking message loud and clearthey still screwed up by not using the original voice lines though
>>741374376Go into the graphics settings and turn up Saturation to +35.
First time in Gothic 2, mage or melee? (bows are for queers)
>>741374246Fighting Snappers day one and surviving.Sure bud. I tried to forget.These thing's are a Vibecheck.
