Should I play classic WoW or OSRS if I want to play an MMO? I feel more like OSRS since your goals are less defined and your path forward is more what you want to do. However, there is less actual group play.
Nobody should play anything made by Jagex.
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>>741345175Not even the Funorb games?
i started playing on hardcore ironman, then died to poison during an afk and never came back
>>741345043You should play FF XIV
>>741345043OSRS is a fun game, but I'd only get into it now if you expect the next 2-4 years of your life to be completely devoid of any responsibility with a job where you can grindmax AFK content on your mobile device between work related activitiesThe venture capitalist company in charge currently are very greedy and looking to push the limits of the playerbase after the previous one sold the game in 2024.So you'd want to get in quick, and dedicate your full autism to maxxing before the rug gets pulled
>>741345875It's a fun game if you like to see number go up in the most mindnumbing way possible.I'm convinced you'd have to be a masocist if you devote this many hours to a game that contains the skill of runecrafting and agility.>inb4 actually if you 1 tick finger your ass in varrock you can actually get 99 whatever in 50 hours instead of 500 the grind isn't that bad
>>741346094I got 99 agility as the first thing I maxed and it was chill enough since you could just passively do it watching shit.Runecrafting people say is fun due to Guardians of the Rift but I still haven't gotten into a rhythm with that
OSRS is my favorite game of all time. There is actually a lot of group play, tons of skilling nodes, like everyone going to the same world and area to cut trees or mine, mini games are a great way to train with others, high level raids basically require group play, most stuff is going to have you going towards group interaction in some way while rarely being necessary
>>741345628Is the 1-50 grind boring, in terms of combat? I heard White Mage is boring AF as solo, is Bard or Paladin better?
>>741346398They got the game figured out to a science on the wiki, pretty easy method to get down, got one for solo and mass world play
I like OSRS as it was in 2008.
>>741346907I respect your right to an opinion anon but I could not disagree more
>>741345043OSRS at least has a progression system where any amount you put into it sticks forever, and can realistically be done WHENever unlike WoW which is more rotational content.It's also balanced in a way where getting two months of membership to nolife is enough to experience the lion's share of basic content - IE you'll be able to spread out and cover 80% of the 'shallow end' of the content, even if you won't be able to dive in too deep to any of it.Hate having to commit to a full year for subscription deals but last september or so they had a (rare for them) two-month membership deal that finally got me to give it a go, and what was left of the kid me from back in the aughts actually had a pretty darn good time. Goal was basically to manually walk through and engage with as many sections of the world map as I could, and had a damn good time; the newest areas they've added are super soulful and mesh perfectly with existing content, I wish they'd loaded everything up with a greater density of quests to match what the FTP and earlier member's areas contain but at the same time the repeatable content they offer is way more robust. Darn good vibes just doing chill vale totems to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIwA_Epg4C4 or giving 100cl+ people at the gemstone crab shit for not having their fire cape while bingereading manga for hours on end, even ended up getting a 99 in farming before I was done
>>741345043Don't. Both companies are run by furry tranny faggot pedos now. I am being literal. And it shows in the content and updates.Play /v/scape which is run by regular faggot pedos instead.
>>741345043OSRS is only catering to Ironman faggotry now, streamers ruined the game
>>741347143but they took out all the gay stuff last year with the new ceo
>>741347112Have you been back for sailing?
>>741347112>OSRS at least has a progression system>kill 10000 of boss #5 to get your midgame upgrade goy
>>741347183No they didn't, stop lying
>>741345043Just play f2p on OSRS to see if you like it. Wait until Classic+ to play WoW, should be coming after Blizzcon in september
>>741345043I prefer OSRS over WoW, but there's some stuff that sucks like lot's of progression is in wilderness were you are going to get griefed by one hit builds and 20 seconds cc that you can't even dispell(the counter is to use scout account, but you need another subscription because it's only one per character), bots, pvp macros, some quest almost requires you to follow walktrough, lot's of activities are terrible without 3rd party client also some skills are hot garbage to level up without owning gold bank.
>>741347254It was built to be multiplayerBeing high level lets you sell gear to the tiers below you because it drops at better rates with the things you fightOnly the first few people have to farm that boss with poverty gear, the rest can buy okay gear dropped from that or the next boss up Irongroids need to realize the game wasn't designed for themAnd GE haters need to transition already
>>741347198Nah, I'm interested in trying it when it's got a couple years to smooth out content mapwide but I I finally succeeded in buying a house right at the end of the year, and kinda got what I wanted out of the experience too - RS has always been a transitional thing for me, had the period as a preteen, the nostalgia period as a 20's dude, a bit in the 2010s where I questmaxxed on the /v/scape custom server, and finally that stressbreaker as a work-from-homer trying to cement his place in adult life.Not really interested in OSRS and only OSRS; goal was to questcape in those two months and just barely failed - got DS2 done but didn't manage Desert Treasure or night at the theater - and I do generally agree with comments like this >>741347254, as much as I do like the game. So long as you're functional enough not to obsess over max caping, grinding to tbow cash stacks or clogging though, it's a legitimately fun world to fuck around in. Also I got spooned the squirrel pet while boosting on Seers rooftops, kinda figure I peaked there
>>741345043I don't have much OSRS experience but it's very click based from the like 10 hours I triedIt doesn't have as much group play but consider the following about WoW ClassicIt is a 'solved' game in that most retards push the meta, that really is utterly slop outside of 'obvious' things like making a tank class be the tank, etc. You get shit where 'we don't take rogues because they make the run be 5 minutes longer' and the 'community' are primarily people in their 40s screeching about 'muh old skool'. Classic WoW is also slow as fuck and most classes are shit until around level 40-50Anyone telling you to try ff14 is memeing, it's like a single player game for about 300 hours for the 'main quest' which is primarily just a shitty single player JRPG gameAlso you could try RS3 too. Not group based like OSRS but still more accesible and has rotations/more skills than OSRS for combat like a modern MMO does. Just try both for freee for like 2-3 hours
>>741347294what progression requires you too go into wilderness? I've been playing since 2007 and i didnt start going into wildy for anything until last year when i finally learned how fun wildy slayer can be
>>741347329>just get gold and buy the best gear hahaOkay now where's the game?
What about 04scape?
>>741347389I get what you are saying about the time commitment part, I come and go in waves, but thats why i love the game, i never feel behind when I come back. If you haven't looked at the game in awhile they seem to recognize that play style in a lot of their players and have started up doing seasonal events, recently just had Leagues 6. A Bingo event before that which was really fun, i think right now a PVP event is going on but im burnt since leagues so not paying a ton of attention. I'm yapping a lot but sailing is pretty fun, you'd probably enjoy salvaging very chill
>>741346398>99>Maxed Not the same thing anon
>>741347112>newest areas they've added are super soulful and mesh perfectly with existing contentThe whole post reeks of ad, but that line in particular.
>>741347409best magic ring, voidwaker etc, if you are collecting pets you have to kill bosses many times in wilderness.
>>741347681They just still scale new content a little bigger compared to classic content, but Varlamore is scapekino.
>>741347769I wouldn't really say any of that counts as progression besides maybe voidwaker and thats only if you are doing high level content bossing with random autists who kick without optimal gear. The ring is largely just a minor stat buff and pets are completely optional and cosmetic. Just join a clan with some mad lads who PK all day and just ask em to hunt around the boss area, ive never had one of those psychos turn me down
>>741347882Seeing how well they did Varlamore is what has given me faith in the new jmod team
>>741345043Neither. Go download UO and play on a shard.
>>741348117>crabbie clicker is what has given me faith in the new jmod teamJust play Melvor Idle
Update since the last time I saw an osrs thread: I finally got my bowfa after 640 kc, now I'm gonna vote no to cg changes even harder.
>>741348208Its better than the alternative which was everyone sitting in solo instances of NMZ for six hours at a time or crashing/having crash outs fighting over sandcrabs and losing your spot every 20 minutes. At least now I can do the same thing but talk to other retards about dumb shit. Also crab is far from the highlight of Varlamore, its just the only screenshot i could find from there
>>741348208The best part of Varlamore update is the Hunters Guild, they completely revitalized all of the decade+ old hunter content no one ever touched and made it worth doing, without even changing anything other than the reward system. I didn't even know Falconry was a thing until this, I only ever went into that pen for a clue step.
I decided to get back into OSRS. I have all dragon weapons available and so far have just played the game using items that existed in the old game to fulfill my nostalgia.
>>741347143This. At this point just run the private server versions on your own.
>>741348554The Brothers are calling you
>>741345628Lmao. That troon game has nothing to do but daily roulettes and afk in limsa
>>741348726limsa balls lmao gottem
>>741345043>Nobody should play anything made by BlizzardFixed that right up for ya
Redpill moment - Jagex should be focusing hard on HD mode and even more optional graphics upgrades to the characters in particular because getting friends into OSRS is literally impossible because of the graphix. Just come up with a good style aka not the RS3 one, and the game could still blow up with new generations.
classic WoW if you want a seasonal rollercoaster theme park experienceOSRS if you want some long term satisfaction, like learning an instrumentboth are fucking retarded to play in current year if you have zero nostalgia for it because there are too many games out there to dedicate any time you have to one of these
Why not rs3
>>741353335because the sixth/fifth age quest split is the dumbest shit ever
>>741353335Wait till they completely roll out all the things from the road to restoration shit and then try it
>>741353568no idea what that is>>741353681isn't it just construction left
>>741353730>no idea what that isIt's when the game is taking place in two simultaneous eras(before guthix dies/you become the world guardian™ and after) and unless you're playing quests in a certain order and not just exploring as you see fit you end up with quests where you, an unknown wandering adventurer shows up to do whatever needs doing at the time and other quests where some weird looking purple fuck with a deep voice keeps showing up and calling you world guardian and you try exploring some random dungeon next to the first city you can find in the game and end up with powerpoint presentation cutscenes talking about some random shit and eggs and ful and wen and it feels like you've skipped over two decades of lore and progression because you have done exactly and jagex never bothered structuring this properly because no one new plays that game for long.
>>741354564if you tried playing through WoW xpacs it would be even more confusing
>>741345043i have 550 hours in osrs and i still have barely any idea of what i'm doing. i just go with the flow really. following the optimal quest guide on the wiki will give you a good structure to follow, but if you hit a levelling road block you might find that there is an overwhelming number of ways to train any one skill and money is quite hard to come by (at least for me) so it's always a choice of grinding for 10 hours for something or using what little cash you have to cut the time down. there's also the element of intensity, click heavy vs afk. once you get the balance right you'll have a fun time but i still haven't got that balance yet so i always feel like i'm inefficient. like right now i'm just afk'ing some gemstone crab but it takes me 2 hours per level on average when i could just put in a bit of effort and kill sulphur naguas or something and halve the time, but then i have to actually pay attention.
>>741345043>I feel more like OSRS since your goals are less defined and your path forward is more what you want to do.it also has shit tier combat where as wow actually has good combat
>>741354564So just do the quests in order of release? Or is that not going to work>>741354904Wow really doesn't, at least not wow classic. Not till they made shit a bit better with WotLK and leveling.Most of classic wow is really limited. Warriors don't get victory rush to like level 68 or something. Rogues have no healing in combat I think till cataclysm. Meaning both classes are usually fucked in melee if they end up with two mobs (rogue not as fucked post vanish around level 34 is it?)Mage is mostly just rng crit Warlock is fairly funHunter can be funThe rest, not really.
>>741355149>Warriors don't get victory rush to like level 68 or somethingsomething that is literally only used when you kill something lol so thats kind of redundant also who tf even pvps before level 70?
>>741355206>pvpmy negro what?
How did the French manage to make the best MMORPG of 2026?
>>741355321pvpyou know the thing that separated wow from other mmos?
>>741355149>So just do the quests in order of releaseI think yes that is the way to go. The downsides I can think of are>you'd have to pay upfront since a lot of f2p quests are either newer ones that start you off in early-mid sixth age and one in particular is a comedic fourth wall break that assumes you've finished quite a lot of the game(Gower Quest)>a lot of the older pre 2005 quests are very rough and untouched and I assume unless you have nostalgia for RS or are really interested in what happens in later RS3 you'd most likely end up turned off by the game.
>>741355361i would unironically play this if i could be on my own server without having to contest spic bots for every single fucking ressource
OSRS is more like an idle game than an actual MMO where you try to find the way to train any given skill while interacting with the client the least without getting banned. WoW is just weeklyslop where you log in, play your one allotted raid, then log out because there's fucking nothing else to do after.MMOs in general are dead, you're better off just finding another style of live service game with gameplay you enjoy.
>>741355518https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meridian_59>>741355540Still sounds like it's just a problem not being intelligent in how they designed itI'm assuming OSRS does not have an issue like this
should I sell my 3.6b?Feel like I am finally done with the game, only interested in checking out big updates like raids and even that sounds meh
>>741355827>meridian 59a shitty fps with rpg elements? lol no thanks, ill take the shitty fighting game with rpg elements any day
>>741356008I'd wait 2 weeks for the new update to drop, then sell it, prices have been going up pretty steadily since they nuked some bots about a month ago.
>>741355752MMOs used to be cool. You could meet loads of interesting people and get to play fun games. As of now everyone just does everything to skip the grind, never talk to another person, and log in for the least amount of time possible.
>>741356118Hasn't been that way in 20 years, anon. Let it go. The advancement of computing tech and to a lesser extent smartphones ruined it because you no longer had to boot into a program to talk to people that took up all your PC's capabilities, you could have an IRC client open, or vent, or other shit by the mid 2000s, and no one ever bothered talking in game unless they were a child or retarded.
>>741356118nu gaymers dont knjow how to have fun which is why we dont get difficult and challenging games anymore, they just want to win
Not sure if this is a unpopular opinion but "Guardians of the rift" is the best thing they could have added to help lvl Runecrafting. Training it in any other way just sucks ass.
The answer is quite literally neither by the way.
>>741356432true, from what i understood the island they wanted to add would be the equivalent for crafting, i just wish fletching also had something like that that didn't require stockpiling 5 amazonian forests in your bank
>>741356616Unfortunately they have to find an outlet for the bosses they add THOUSANDS of logs to the drop pool of. Vale totems is the best you'll ever get.
If you support modern blizzard you should probably get to the point and start estrogen + make a reddit account
>>741357885Blizz has always been fucking woke
After being a long term wow sweat as a teen(mists all the way into classic tbc, mythics etc) and never touching osrs I was convinced to try it when bored at my job. Created a HCIM cause I'm autistic and into HC wow classic / d2 as a fuck it. 1700 hours and multiple bosses later I'm so glad I got to experience this game as a conscious adult where I can appreciate it's game design and have the time to dump into it. At this point I'll quit when I die but until then it's the best MMO on the market if you aren't shit at video games.
>>741356008How do people even do that? Crypto trades on forums?
Bros the max cash/GE limit update is gonna devalue my Third Age Pickaxe. Please vote no
>>741350673Redpill moment - It is impossible to make the game look "good" as 2010 RS looks just as shit and photo realism is unobtainable. You just look at 2010 rs with your own rose tinted glasses. I prefer 2007 look in every way ( with AA)
>>741360706why would it?It will give it accurate value. The only "loss" is scammers who try to tell people it's worth like 20b. That's all the "max cash" items do, they just breed scams and trickery because there's no singular source of their actual value. Now we can get one based on actual desire and want.
>>741345043The fact Blizzard had to shut down Turtle WoW because it was a much better Classic project than theirs should tell you everything.Don't sub to their heavily botted 2006 version of the game. Honestly better off playing Capybara WoW with the Chinese or OctoWoW.
>>741346785Why would you play a healer class leveling up? Your character can be every class anyway, you level them up independently but you can switch anytime (out of combat) provided you have unlocked the class (some you can just go and get the quest right away, others have a minimum level requirement)
>>741360998best for groups
>>741356616Vale totems is probably what you are looking for. But you still need your own logs.
>>741364616vale totems is precisely what i want to avoir, by far the most annoying minigame, at least giant's foundry gives you decent gold even if you need to bring your own bars
>>741364739I find vale totems to be pretty chill, but to each their own.
the main reason that I don't like osrs is that all the endgame "tech" is just bugs/oversights from 20 years ago that were never intended to be used in the way they are. things like prayer flicking and red xing are oversights and people would have thought you belonged in an asylum if you did those back in the day. now this cancer is embraced as "tech" and modern osrs is built around them. I would prefer to play a game with a thoughtfully created endgame tech instead of random jank that was never fixed
>>741360562Gold seller website also buy. Anon would get a $5 gift card or some shitcoins. They don't use real banking services so good luck getting two bucks out of it.
>>741360562Why would you use crypto? I mean, I guess it stops tradebacks.Most people on runescape, OSRS in particular are using either playerauctions, or if you're an old head, D2JSP still has pretty lively runescape sections.Playerauctions utilizes middlemen/escrow accounts so your client pays the escrow, you trade ingame, then you get the money, and if they chargeback, it hits playerauctions, not you. I used them for WoW and a few other MMOs, definitely the best normalfag adjacent place.Most smaller scale MMOs will just use discords for hosting RMT/RWT where you have to be vetted to get in. Maplestory has a few of them, people regularly deal in duped gear for thousands of dollars at a time, so it makes sense they wouldn't want it publicized on playerauctions or pixelmarket (pixelmarket sucks btw never use it)
>>741365057Name two (2) bosses that require prayer flicking and red X'ing
>>741347389Man, I was honestly hoping Sailing would have been F2P, I must have missed something where it said it was gonna be a Member skill, or just forgot. Still, glad it's here.
>>741363746> I heard White Mage is boring AF as SOLOClearly he's not planning to group up
>>741366502The ORIGINAL pitch, when zeah was supposed to be an archipelago and the houses were occupying different islands, was that sailing would have been f2p, and you could cover all the f2p areas with sailing content, including sarim to karamja.Obviously that never panned out, the updated proposal was never f2p at any point.
>>741345043I would say OSRS but you'd have to accept the fact that many of the end game bosses are overdesigned streamerbait. Fuck the faggot jmod whomstvehehe name I can't even remember.
>>741366062I don't know about red x'ing but isn't flicking 100% required at inferno? and everyone knows you're a noob if you're high level without an inferno cape
>>741368629So, "flicking" in a sense of perfect 1t flicking, no, but you will have to try and conserve to SOME degree. Regen pots makes it CRAZY easy to do lazy flicking. If you want to try, 2t flicking is incredibly simple for even beginner to do with regen pots. There's so much busted shit in the game now that it's not nearly as big of a deal as it used to be.
>>741368959>Being lazy with flicking>Talks about 1 tick vs 2 ticksjfc
>>741369660Well, yeah, not taking more than once action every 2 seconds is pretty fucking lazy.
>>741348726Better pvp and raiding. No endgame dungeon m+ if you are into that though.
>>741369746Isn't a single tick around 300ms in OSRS? And around 800ms in RS3 which is why the game feels so sluggish at times?
>>741369746People do more than just prayer switching
>>741369953no. 600ms is the rate at which server ticks, accounting for server lag it's usually 700~.
OSRS is a boring single player skilling game. Nobody talks to each other and you might as well be playing with bots (which most of them are)
>>741365057I never liked how the prayer system works, if it wasn't designed so long ago it would never function how it does.
>>741356432>holy shit this skill fucking sucks to train>here's a minigame with viable exp gains as an alternative to actually using the skillthere are several examples of this
>>741345875game died when they added death's office from rs3. Soon they will add lodestones I'm sure.No changes bros where u at now? We loving the goon crab still?
>>741371903If I wanted a static 2007 experience I'd have still been playing 2007scape, it's still around. So is /v/scape for that matter, I think.People who didn't want changes are on servers that didn't.OSRS is for people who don't mind them. If you don't want changes, fuck off.
>>741345043classic wow is complete and utterly ruined by the community and classic+ will meet the same fateyou barely have to interact with players in osrs so it wins by default
>>741371903you'd be retarded if you refused to acknowledge the game's problems, if you can get fixes or content without turning it into rs3 that's pretty good for most non autistic players
>>741372074Can I get a static 2007scape experience but with a grand exchange and without vscape trannies posting and discussing blacked shemale porn?
>>741372697The only game mode that sticks to the old mechanics is ultimate iron man. You probably don't know that osrs has faster xp rates for every skill at every threshold across the board compared to RS3 except for like thieving. The vision is gone. Jagex simply develops content and repeats surveys until they pass. The vision is dead.
>>741347420what ever happened to being a small piece of a living world? Having your own niche to make money is the point you fucking idiot. Why do you think there are so many skills? You are not supposed to be a fucking ironman. You are supposed to do what you like to fund skills you don't want to grind for.
>>741369660Runefags calling skillfully timing your prayer clicks based on your weapon and the enemy "Lazy" as opposed to brainlessly clicking the quick prayer orb like a human metronome is funny to me
>>741373160that has never been the case since zybez and sals and tipit made market forums and people started aggregating prices. You could always convince people to buy stuff for prices YOU set, even if you scalped them. With aggregate prices and sales metrics people will never pay more than "they should", so everything is a race to the bottom. GE was an issue with it it but ultimately zybez completely killed fally park anyway, GE just centrallized it instead of requiring players to go to a 3rd party side.>>741374147in runescape terminology is ALL fucked. "AFK" is anything that requires less than 1 click per 30 seconds.
>>741360706Are they removing the 2b or so limit on each max cash stack or what update?
>>741374337GE got updated to take money from your bank a year or two ago, so you don't have to pull it out to put in orders.They're updating so it can now pull from plat token stacks instead of just GP, so you'll be able to put in orders and retrieve cash from sales in excess of gp stack (2.147b). It's now 2.147 tril.
>>741374207>zybez and salsThat changes nothing. Even with the GE in effect what I'm saying is how it is. You do not have to farm the most efficient GP/h method. You can cut trees and sell logs if that's how you want to make money. People do it all the time.
>>741375301You can, it just takes exponentially longer. It's not a VIABLE method of moneymaking. The highest value woodcutting and mining moneymakers, two of the most annoying skills to train, are under 500k/hr. 30 hours on average of work to sustain a bond. Ludicrous. Why are they that cheap? Because the best items in the game all just fucking drop from bossing. The only way to play the game, and the smartest way to play the game, is bossing.Just because you CAN technically grind your own shit doesn't mean there's value to it, jagex has effectively stated they don't care because they keep putting critical skilling mats in boss drop tables.
>>741375782I'm not arguing that the wizard fishmancer build is better than doing what's meta. But there are so many ways to make money you are a fool for implying the only way to enjoy yourself is to buy gold and skip account progression. Worst kind of runescape player.
>>741375782>woodcutting>mining>two of the most annoying skills to trainYou do not know what you are talking about. There are skilling methods with good profit, but obviously two of the most low effort and bottable skills won't be it.
>>741346785The entire leveling experience is boring as fuck in terms of combat. Literally impossible to die unless you afk until endgame
>>741372697they still havent fixed prayer flicking
>>741345043Im currently playing on Warmane's ×1 exp Wrath server on a fresh account and I'm surprised how much I'm enjoying it, probably because I haven't played WoW in 5 years. There's people making new characters all the time so I haven't had trouble even finding people to do dungeons with. Since the server never resets I thought it would be dead but that has not been the case.
>>741376638/wpsg/ checking in, fuck this guy, spicmane is terrible, faebright, chromie or nostrum
>>741377115This but Tauri.
>>741377115Chromie. Anon guild there is short on some rdpsAnd starting July 15, you can already switch to Tauri
>>741348294>t. lardass incapable of empathy
