What are we going to see in Deltarune festival next week??
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Friend inside me above me.
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>>741347036Shipping, minigames, Rudy maybe dying or going into a coma and maybe an Asgore crashout. Hopefully the festival is fun to play through and the shipping scenes are at least funny.
Wholesome date with Susie that ends in Christian wedding few years laterPerverse date with Noelle that turns her into a sex slave
THE WORLD IS ABOUT TO CHANGE. YOUR EXISTENCE... WON'T BELONG THERE!
>>>/vg/
>>741347297That's Chapter 6.
Here's whats going to happen. In the normal route you get a choice on who you want to ride the ferris wheel with. This is a false choice as whatever you choose, Susie will override it with something else, probably trying to get all 3 to ride together at once. In the weird route, one of two things will happen. Noelle will straight up say she wants to ride with Kris, and Susie will not interject, instead allowing Kris and Noelle to ride together. Alternatively, you'll get the same choice as in the normal route, but if you choose to ride with Noelle, this time Susie will either not interject, or she'll try, but it will get shot down.
>>741347036I want to win a plushie for Susie!
What's next for our HEROES?
>>741348548Dude we can see Kris's dick here.
>>741348548Which pant-leg is that fat cock stuffed into?Cute butthole btw
>>741348548It only make sense for Susie to force Krusie in the normal route. Kriselle and Suselle have no narrative value while Krusie would explore Susie's backstory and her deal with Alphys as well as give us the strongest bond with Kris before he betrays her later on actually creating a big narrative shift in the story. If this was a moment of choice, we would have the option for Kralsei but Ralsei can't possibly appear at the festival. So basically Normal route is Krusie while alternative route would force Kriselle as the entire route is focused on their relationship, instead.
>>741348571Entire chapter will be worth it for those small things rather than bigger narrative happenings
>>741348548Yeah I think Toby is going to make fun of "chosing your waifu" trope with the festival like he did with the dating sims in pretty much all his work. You won't chose who Kris will date.Also I'm really surprised SZukafu never drew your pic meme with the other humans but he was always a bit gay, still a shame though.
Is there any difference between failing to recruit all darkners in a chapter or losing one to violence?
>>741349080>Toby is going to make fun of "chosing your waifu" trope with the festival like he did with the dating sims in pretty much all his workyet there are still anons convinced of the contrary right now
>>741349080Toby might be too invested in this game to just deconstruct Japanese game tropes while trying to suck up to Japanese. Making fun of those dating sims would make sense if this was some wokecel with western mentality.
>>741349080Wrong, weird chads will force Kriselle and force them to kiss>I WILL rape the both of you
>>741349751If Weird route is a forced Kriselle, then Normal route has to at least contain optional Susie content is not outright forced Susie content.
I'm not excited for weird route because Toby probably pussied out after the flower stuff and likely changed shit
>>741349726Toby is nipponpilled but he has always made fun of those tropes, even last year he made fun of another trope. You can like nippon while still making a parody of it.
>>741348592>>741348548>>741348731The cuckening
>>741349690In ch1 you get driven out of castle townIn ch2 berdly breaks his armIn ch3 tenna does not get fixedIn ch4 Jackenstein dies instead of the tower of darkners saving him when he falls As far as general game flow goes, no. But there's usually one difference for when a chapter ends. Castle town is also less lively
>>741350257Sorry, card castle, not castle town
>>741350257I like how the knight gets a kill count if you don’t put the effort in
jorkington
>knight takes off helmet >>oh, my full name? It's Mike Pizzapants
>>741349726Anon, he ALREADY made fun of dating sims through Berdly in this game.He may be a weeb but he still has preferences/opinions.
>>741349690No, the result is the same. The anon that replied to you misunderstood your question.
Why does nobody bring up the fact that Kris' power strip speaks with a British accent?
>>741350979everyone did back on release a year agohe is probably based on an EU strip could be why he was needed to power the console, if the console is also using a british standard
How did she immediately know this was the wrong way?
>>741350979Why does that matter?
When we will go inside the bunker? What even is inside the bunker?
>>741351097>When we will go inside the bunkerflood shelter, next chapter probably when the roaring happens>What even is inside the bunker?flood shelterit's a shelterfrom floodsthey say it in the game, anon
>>741351083She planned it with Kris ahead of time
>>741351071>>741351093Except his face isn't the EU strip pattern, its a normal one. Its strange to me because I feel like this is completely intentional and would be a strange oversightI dont know. I guess Kris just personified it as a british plug? It always was just odd to me
Six days until the end.
>>741351275It's close enough, it is just square instead of roundbesides how do you even show that with small sprites anywayToby shouldn't have skipped on the full shop portrait for him (even if he doesn't sell anything)
>>741351351Can't believe we're so close to the end, dude. This WAIT feels so freaking fast. Chapter 5 is soon in our hands.
>>741351143Yeah I know it says that but it clearly cannot be the only thing
>>741348615Yeah it's great
>>741348650Knock it off Susie>>741348615Knock it off Noelle
>>741351603I prefer his art of the other humans but I guess the gays can have a treat once in awhile.
>>741351071>he is probably based on an EU stripWhich one?
>>741351382the complete lack of a single new shopkeeper screen was extremely jarring, given the previous chapters always had multiple of those. UT demo didn't get one but it gets a pass because it was very short and also the very beginning of the series. Even UTY bothered with giving a screen to the vending machine there.
>>741347036Hopefully:>Fucking Noelle>Fucking Ralsei>Fucking Susie>fucking everyone else optionalhigh quality pixel sex
>>741351923We have the chapter 5 shop theme.So there's hope.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbVviAEdiPI
>>741348592>no hair on the SOULngmi
>>741351923It's strange Gerson didn't get one, either. Maybe Chapter 2 having so many wasted all the budget.
>>741352097I'm not dooming about no shopkeeper screens ever again, just remarking how odd it is for them to be absent when they had been a staple since 2015. Forgot to mention True Lab and New Home didn't get them, but those also have good justifications for the lack of.>picrelLet the train go over the pippinses, and pull the brakes so it goes slowly.
>>741352312Snowdin had one and Waterfall and Hotland had two each, that's not an excuse.
>>741347036Say Gex
POLICE... SACRIFICE ... NEXT WEEK .....
>>741352538>next weekoh rightpossibly more evidence for the "timeskip after chapter 5/6" theory
>>741352612festival is on a sunday (monday if we're counting japanese school offdays and assuming their cult congregates on sundays like christians)
>>741352393Maybe. I don't have any real excuses for no shopscreens. Just wondering why Toby just completely decided to exclude them despite almost every area having one in Undertale. Maybe they will return in 5+
>>741347036>hopesSusie comically misunderstanding Noelle's invitation, thinking it's ging to be them, Kris andd Berdly hanging out as friends, with Noelle trying to get rid of Kris/Birdly, Susie constantly dragging Kris along and Berdly trying to stick with Susie>expectationsKris will get left behind, someone (Berdly?) will take Ralsei's role of getting the Soul to fuck off to where Susie is while Kris is doing shenanigans unwatched>fearsYou spend the entire festival forced to actively get Susie and Noelle togetherI at least hope the Fun Gang will have nice interactions in the Dark World again.and for the people who want to call be out as a Kruselle/Krusiefag, joke's on you, I ship Susie with Ralsei so I know I'm not getting what I want anyway
>>741352782it was 1 day, nobody would say "next week" about something tomorrow
>>741352097>The Mike pippin excited freaking out the others
Will we find out what's in the acorn?
>>741353109sally acorn
>>741352782>>741352942Forgotten Man confirms Festival is on a sunday.
Will (You) and Kris ever get along?
>>741352312I wouldn't say budget's the problem ch2 was before Toby even got the full team, more that chapter 3 has so much shit going on with the art, different game style mini games etc that took priority. From what I understand chapter 3 was the main issue that was slowing down the rest of the game
>>741352887>SpoilerIt's not as unlikely as you'd think...
>>741352887>You spend the entire festival forced to actively get Susie and Noelle togethersame, at least let me ship Kris and Ralsei, that would be more palatable
>>741347079That's for the gacha threads btw
Somehow I have faith in Toby to make the festival not terrible
>>741352782>>741352942>>741353348this made me go back and check. the services definitely happen on sundays. forgotten man was just using the days as a metaphor for the chapters, hence why he makes 3 days out of 3 chapters that take place over 2 days: "ON FRIDAY, I TOSS THE LEFTOVERS IN THE DUMPSTER. (ch 2)ON SATURDAY, I LET IT COOL ON THE WINDOWSILL. (ch 3)ON SUNDAY, I HARVEST THE WHEAT." (ch 4)
>>741353548I think he’s going to do something genuinely unexpected but half the people here are gonna be pissed they unironically wanted a generic love story
>>741353706Fucking Ralsei's ass on Sunday confirmed holy shit!
>>741353548>susie eats something>noelle: W-W-W-WOWZERS WHAT IF THAT WAS ME>susie does one of those strength testing fairground games>noelle: W-W-W-WOWZERS WHAT IF THAT WAS ME>susie smells a flower>noelle: W-W-W-WOWZERS WHAT IF THAT WAS ME>susie does literally anything>noelle: W-W-W-WOWZERS WHAT IF THAT WAS ME
>>741353423prolly in chapter 6 after a long fight, crying, and hugging. unless you're doing the weird route and Kris will probably fight to the death
>>741353807This is literally /v/ and /utg/ glazing the fuck out of Susie for basically everything when a lot of writing problems come back to her being the golden child of the game
>>741353920Unfortunately Toby loves bad girls but only when they are actually infallible saints
>>741353423Only when they're as loyal as my previous human wives.
>>741353348reading comprehension brothe voice on the phone talks about the police sacrifice in chapter 4, one day before sunday/the festival. you wouldn't refer to something tomorrow as "next week"
I want to kill Mary Susie
>>741353706Saturday is referring to the Chapter 4 eggroom, but that's a good point. Maybe the festival made the church happen earlier.
>>741353706ON THURSDAY, I GO TO SELL THE DONUTS. (chapter 1)ON FRIDAY, I TOSS THE LEFTOVERS IN THE DUMPSTER. (chapter 2)ON SATURDAY, I LET IT COOL ON THE WINDOWSILL. (chapter 4)ON SUNDAY, I HARVEST THE WHEAT. (chapter 5)He skips chapter 3 because you are in chapter 3 when he tells you the rest of the hints of where to find the egg in the other chapters.
>>741353969I feel like the artist meant for me to take this more seriously than immediately bursting into a chortle over "here are my groomed children from another dimension".
god the janny did a number on these threads
>>741354196hope he's getting paid overtime next wednesday
>>741354040i'd expect toriel to make some benign old person comment about not being used to service on saturdays if so but i guess
>>741353807>Susie when anyone else: normal fucking dialogue>Susie when noelle: noelle would le love this...why am i le thinking of noelle right now? she would le love this too...but why am i thinking of her?Can Toby really not realize how awful it is when thoes two interact? Does he really think that it's good writing?
I HECKING LOVE YURI
dumb deer
>the man is behind the tree >axes cut down trees I just now realized this Am I retarded?
>>741354325I said this before and I'll say it again.>Taking art from the biggest real-life foid self inserting as Noelle fucking male!Kris and calling it yuriThis is the line where it's obviously a mental illness.
>>741353467It's historical how right after ch 2 came out, Toby said he expected the real of the game to be easier to make, then he decided that making an entirely different new game within the game with a ton of characters acting on their own and a bunch of very specific little reactions to how you proceed was going to be easier than his original idea of a minigame collection.We could be an entire year ahead of schedule if he didn't try to reinvent the wheel with ch 3.
I loved chapter 3 for what it is but it does feel like using the Dreemurr house so early was a missed opportunity when we didn't get any (meaningful) lore about Kris's past or Asriel
>>741354580dats da joke
I love yuri!
>>741348548Nah, Susie also forces all 3 of them onto the ferris wheel in the weird routeHowever things get a little heated when Noelle and Kris start making outAt first Susie doesn't know what to do and pretends she isn't thereBut when Kris starts undressing Noelle, and Noelle's moans echo through the room, Susie begins to feel hotSoon, Susie is rubbing her hand between her legs, while Kris's head us firmly between Noelle's thighsWhen Noelle notices Susie's actions she encourages her to enjoy the scene and asks her to help line Kris up with her virgin doe pussySusie holds Kris's throbbing theyhood and places the tip against the sopping wet entrance to Noelle's doehoodOnce Kris penetrates Noelle with a single powerful thrust, Susie returns to pleasuring herselfThe entire cart is filled with the sounds of deep moans, haggard pants, desparate whimpers, and flesh slapping against furFinally all three finish at the same time, with Kris pushing himself as deep into Noelle as he physically can before unloading a torrent of potent human seedThe ride is about to end, so they quickly dress themselves back up and Noelle seals the whole secret endeavor with a kiss on Kris's lips and Susie's cheekShe ensures Susie she can watch Kris and her go at it anytimeWhen they get off, Berdly asks about the odor in the cartSusie tells him it's because she farted in thereBerdly is taken aback in disgust, but when the trio leaves his sight, he dashes into the cartBerdly then vigorously licks every cushion on the cartHe is later diagnosed with ligma
>>741347036Total Suselle Humiliation
>>741354845unexpected kinonow I want noelle to suffer during the normal route and susie during snowgrave
>>741354670>Try to reinvent the wheel with chapter 3Toby deserves a lot of the blame for basically being the final bottleneck for every portion of the game, and for his numerous side-projects, side-objectives, and complete nonsense distractions subtracting a lot of time from the game itself.But it should definitely be noted that he is not capable of making the game on his own at all at this point, and the people he hired- mostly a bunch of artist friends (leeches) of his are completely useless.Never forget that GigiDigi BRAGGED about dragging production of chapter 3 for a week because she couldn't get the design of the break room right, and Toby said it was because "her art is too good".
>at the festival>suselle about to happen>my mayor Carol appears out of nowhere and stops itI would clap in real life if this happens
>>741354989>my mayorYou're not from Hometown.
>just checked the temperature on the 24thDamn it Toby hot days during summer are the least comfy time of the year.
>>741348548Kris should shove the soul up his ass imo
>>741355060I have lived in hometown since 2018
>>741354989and xitter would have us thing Carol is the bad guy for wanting to keep this boring side romance away
>>741355085>Checked the temperature on the 24thMan uses unholy magicks to look into the future and goes insane because it's a totally normal summer day.
>>741354017calm down catti
>>741355160Summer can have coolish (for summer) days where the sun is stuck behind clouds. I recall getting lucky last year and getting one of those with 3/4's release
>>741354295>Susie when anyone else: normal fucking dialogue>Susie when Kris: Kris would le love this...why am i le thinking of Kris right now? They would le love this too...but why am i thinking of them?Can Toby really not realize how awful it is when thoes two interact? Does he really think that it's good writing?
>the festival is unironically just a festival and nothing actually goes horribly wrong
>>741355160>unholy magicksAnon its the weather. You can look up temperature estimates and such a week in advance with any country worth a damn.
>>741354061Doesn't this imply chapters 6 and 7 won't have eggs?
>>741354181I think the idea is that the player is fucked up for preferring children over Kris and not realizing it but it falls flat when we're proudly fucked up.
>Glowshard>Shadowcrystal
>>741355420>implying that the weather isn’t one of Gaster’s nefarious tricks
>>741355405Anon, randomly swapping the name of characters on an argument does not count as a rebuttal. You have to actuallly say something that makes sense.
I’m sorry to interrupt, however, I regret to inform you that our upcoming news channel, Blue and you North Korean News, has been rejected by Great Leader Kim Jong Un due to fears of exposing private North Korean details, fears of being too costly and due to there already being a North Korean News channel. I am deeply sorry for this. Now, to disclose some points about the debate.>News show is Inspired by Memri Tv and its exaggerated translations. Introduction to channel and debate.>Debate is at the demilitarized zone’s truce town (Panjunmon/Joint Security Area)>52: Onionsan is a girl. 11: Onionsan is a boy.>52: argument: Japanese pronoun usage and how Onion looks like a girl’s breast. (11 would comment how people also get breasts from fat like men and I would comment “even better. A fat woman.”)11 argument: Asriel II and gender populations and beauty standards.>funny moment about how 11 knows what a goner is even after saying he hates Toby games after saying that Onion will be a goner.>This is due to him being forced to play the game by great leader to get intel on Toby in case he has to get bombed for anti-North Korean rethoric.>ad break
Reminder that this isn't a house. It's an arrow with an egg in front of it.
>>741354295>susie when litteraly anything: notices when something is off/when someone is bsing>susie when noelle says "haha i don't remember i felt haha": what if it was me tho>susie making kris stay in the closet while she gets to hang out with noelle but getting all bitchy when it's the opposite in weird routeI just kinda hate Susie in the holiday house
>weird route festival>get to choose noelle's dialog options >use noelle to terrorize characters like pizzapants>special sans dialog>have to make noelle act normal when susie's around so she doesn't separate kris and noelleWould be fun
>>741355708>It's an arrow with an egg in front of itMight as well just say it's a pimple on my 2 inch cock and two big hairy balls.
>>741353920susie really fucking funny in that she's blatently just toby's pet character and being shilled because of it but also most of the fan base really likes her so he's just able to get away with it. i can't think of many examples of a writer wanting people to desperately like a character and it actually works
>>741355380Are you on the east coast>waking up at 8 am just before the game came out>grabbing some cereal and checking the ongoing gaster tweets>going through chapter 3's desolate intro section on what was already a dreary day>the surreal feeling of "what the fuck is going on is this a dream" when 3D tenna showed up and changed half the artstyleit was kino
>>741355549I don't even remember if there were in chapters 3 and 4
>This is the hero of prophecy
>>741355862Well, but that's the thing, it works with literally anyone other than NoelleSusie's just a great character, when she's not interacting with Noelle. With literally anyone else, she's great. But with Noelle, it's fucking garbage.
>>741347079you cant fippy bippy your own post retard
krusie sexo
>>741355467Yeah we knew that already, chapter 5 is the final egg and final shadow crystal and the roaring happens.
>>741355912>She’s a great character because she’s an unironic creator’s pet
Why are eggs an issue?
>>741356026Likely at least in part a reference to BAD EGG entities in the Pokemon games that would crash the game when hatching
>>741355792to be fair she does get really close to call out noelle's shit when she talks about how "romantic" her riding the feris wheel with susie would be but also her riding with kris a kids was totally platonic and defiantly "forced"
>>741355984There's nothing to really say. She's a great character when she's interacting with everyone other than the gay deer.
>>741355904They cute.
>>741356026The Man only exists inside of Kris's subconscious, so it could be that Gaster is merely signaling that it would be extremely bad for us, being stuck with Kris, to peel back his innermost hidden traumas.
>>741355792Both Susie and Noelle both act ridiculous and out of character when interacting with each other or thinking about each other it’s almost comical.
>>741354196Janny either actually moderates threads and IP wipes schizos or he goes into a melty and deletes every thread. He is genuinely schizophrenic.
>>741347036Bad writingMy expectations are unironically rock bottom.>suselle being made canon>berdly date forgotten>asgore cucked and humiliated again>Sans being le funny man with suspicious motives. Also no Papyrus still>toriel acting like a stupid angry bitch>Kris gets shit on for stupid reasons>ralsei mopes some moreAnd so on
>>741353983...Shit, there's going to be a timeskip, isn't there? Toby's gonna put a timeskip in the plot of Deltarune.
>>741356026It's the only way mystery man can intervene in Gaster's master plan. Give the player an item so mundane that Gaster wouldn't suspect it's greater meaning.
Man Frisk must be a great buddy to have>Empathetic>Knows when to be serious>Funny>Extreme patience>Willing to kill a dude for slightest reason>Really good at gambling
>>741356151That's what makes it worse. ALSO>both of them talking about Kris behind his back>Susie sees Kris in the closet, presumably having heard everything>Susie, the supposed empath paragon that she is for every other part of the game: bro keep looking for clues, im hanging ou-i mean distracting noelle>doesn't talk about it with kris at all after this
>>>>Toby "Dobson" Fox
As much as I'd like Noelle to come through the screen and make out with me, I think it would be better if none of the characters got together with anybody at all, at least on the normal route.
>>741356491Best Man(unknown)
>>741356236I think this is dead wrong. The Man literally lives in Hometown, but nobody can remember him. He's always there in traffic or at the diner at that moment in the story, but Kris only recognizes Him if you've obtained the egg from the last chapter. Him eating at QC's diner means he is able to fully interact with people, do exchanges, etc, but the other person involved simply doesn't remember the sighting, conversation or exchange as soon as The Man has left. That's why I think people should consider him to potentially be an active participant in the plot. Based on everything we know about The Man it's totally possible for an X-Factor character to be running around setting shit up during the story and by his nature we cannot perceive what he's doing 99% of the time.Personally i think The Man was the person who inhabited the office or classroom in the top left of the school.
>>741356491That's why she's best girl and the best human wife. I wish she was more popular than Chara.
>>741356026The eggs aren't the issue, the issue is the connection between the soul and the player randomly going out. Why do you think that nobody reacts when the player returns from an egg room? It's because Kris was left behind and trying to act like nothing happened until the player comes back from the egg room.
What I want to know is if we're ever going to get answers for the mysterious Sans shit in Undertale. What the broken machine? What was his badge? Who where the three unknown people smiling?
>>741347036Probably lots of Deltatroons.
>the one ally in Hometown that was helping us investigate shit and got turned into onion soup for it
>>741356647No, nobody reacts because they don't remember that anything happened. It's possible that not even Kris remembers what just happened the moment before.
>>741348548Kris plapping minigame when?
>>741356026Issue can mean offspring. Either that or the eggs are an error code and aren't actual eggs.
>>741356676If we don't get any answers for it Toby will officially be a hack.
>>741356676Teleport to undertale machine, Toriel’s jitterbug marathon badge, Kris/Susie/Noelle
>>741356731Then why/how does the party move from the room with the gap once you return? And it's always to somewhere that seems reasonable to hang out in, like the bake sale in chapter 1 or the green room in chapter 3. I think the simplest answer is that they just walked there while the player is busy addressing the man in the middle.
>>741355584>Disscussion about how and why Onionsan will be in Chapter 5 (anime/japan, flower design, the festival)>I describe that under North Korean law, in chapter 5, Onionsan will not only be revealed as a girl, but also a bbw that will go to the festival with us, or will be in one of the dark worlds.>Then, Challenge to see if Onionsan is a girl or boy.>52 (me) sets trays horse pleasurement for me and 11 to see if we could get a worm onto one of our trays. If the gets to my tray, then Onionsan is revealed to be a girl in chapter 5. If the worm gets to 11’s tray of horse pleasurement, then Onionsan will be revealed to be a boy.If nothing happens, then nothing happens.> Challenge goes smoothly at first, with the worm going to my side.>This is until 11 puts vanilla extract in his pleasurement, causing the worm to notice and to reach his side.>This enrages me and causes a fight between me and EggFricker11 (11), member of the Thrembo decision of North Korea.>Reporter, Woo-Jin sau, attempted to settle us down and he was sucessful.>In the end, under rule of vote, I, EggFricker52, won.>debate concludes and Son-too mon says goodbye.
i really hope asgore is an actual boss fight in chapter 5 and doesn't just get cucked out of it, partially because i wanna hear what toby does for his theme and partially because i want to see how kris reacts to having to fight his dad
>>741355891You can get one from the pinball machine in 3, my point is they're almost synonymous/opposites.>glow/shadow>shard/crystal>their 'value' increases each chapter (literally and figuratively)
>>741356515https://x.com/clockworksDream/status/2057209927723057237
>>741357015Good, creators should be scared of their audiences.
>>741356965What if it's a fight like against Gerson where Kris isn't involved? Maybe it's Ralsei's chance for solo combat or Noelle's.
>>741356730???
YOU CAN'T HIDE THOSE EGGS FROM ME, GASTER
>>741354295Probably. He didn't do it at random so much so as actively plotted for this to happen with events before the game properly started. Suselle is the blushy-mushy uguu type of teen romance that I feel like I've seen everywhere in the 2000s, except its butchfemme instead of an awkward guy & awkward girl. I can't stand the second-hand embarrassment.
>>741356965Asgore attacking Kris makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. It's the one thing DR Asgore would categorically never fucking do. That's his sondaughter you're talking about and the only family that still visits him.
>>741356965It's possible there might be an Asgore boss fight because of that one room in the Sword Route, with the monster and the 7 flowers, but at the same time, given that seems to be weird route foreshadowing, it could be that you only get a proper fight with Asgore in the weird route. I have no idea what Toby's actually going to do to be honest.
>>741357015Would never envision myself agreeing with a tranny but here we areWhy does everything have to be some fake gay controversy
>>741356965You will fight Asgore with all the soul flowers to make up for Undertale.
>>741357015hey yall, big ideas man herehow about we stop treating our fans like our tumblr mutuals and put a degree of separation between us and them?maybe thatd prevent them from thinking that a single word they say has any weight in your decision making?perchance?
>>741357286Toby does create many walls of separation but fans like you still want him to be a lolcow. Perjew.
>>741357286If Suselle happens Toby is a hack and it will be considered noncanon.Susei and Krerdly are acceptable.
>>741357286>how about we stop treating our fans like our tumblr mutualsToby hasn't been like that since the homestuck days and he still got his ass digitally lynched over fucking nothingI've said it before but he's so goddamn lucky that the homestuck forum was nuked because you know for a fact schizos would bring up any out of context post from 15+ years ago as some moral failure on his part.
>>741357015Some people just have nothing better to do.
>>741357379>Toby does create many walls of separation but fans like you still want him to be a lolcow.I kind of wonder if it’s BECAUSE we say “Toby” that people develop a weird parasocial relationship with him, you know what I mean? Maybe in the timeline where we still say “Radiation” people act moderately more controlled
Lads I had a weird Deltarune dream. Hidden in spoiler in case it's a prediction about chapter 5.I was in the classroom alone with both of Noelle's and Alphys' body was sitting on the teacher's desk, back facing the rest of the class. Their body were vacant, as their soul were somewhere else which means their bodies weren't reacting (now that I think of it it's like a time stop scenario but with an extra autistic step). The first thing I did was going to Alphys and pull down her pants, revealing a pair of lavender panties with a sweat stain where the ass crack is and pubic hair sticking out. I then also put those down revealing her pussy but also her puffy anus. I groped her body for a bit before putting her clothes back on and then the dream ended before I got to Noelle.What does it mean Toby? What does it mean?!?
>>741357713get help
>>741357713You're a coomer.
>>741357015Every time this line comes up I have to point out how there's less social separation between the audience & indie vs. audience & corporate. And because of that, online hecklers feel like they have more power over attacking a single face as opposed to an established conglomerate of faces, since its much easier to see and treat an indie creator as being responsible for (thing you like or don't like). Ranting and raving under a Sesame Street instagram post or an Xbox tweet is arguing with a brick wall, but you'll have a much better shot of hurting the indie creator behind the screen and influence their actions.
>>741357713Posting about "dreams" is the perfect excuse to post erotica, I'm surprised I hadn't thought of it before.Also, you're really gay to go for Alphys before Noelle. Care to explain yourself?
>Dess hasn't been physically seen>Asriel hasn't been physically seen>Papyrus hasn't been physically seenI never realized this before but is there a connection here with missing siblings? Perhaps Mystery Man and Gaster too?
could asriel show up next chapter or is it still too early
>fans are expecting dessriel>asriel shows up>HEY NOELLE, NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR DEAD SISTER
I had a dream last night that Papyrus didn't show up in chapter 5 at all and overall the chapter was just really disappointing and barely moved the plot forward. I hope that's not a prediction.
>>741357713faggot went for the landwhale before noelle, wasted post rem state
>>741357959>KRIS I SAW A CAT AND THEN I RAN INTO THIS WEIRD BUILDING AND DEVELOPED A CRUSH ON THIS DEAD ASIAN CHICKReady your assFor ASRIELYIIK
>>741357678>I've said it before but he's so goddamn lucky that the homestuck forum was nuked because you know for a fact schizos would bring up any out of context post from 15+ years ago as some moral failure on his part.I’m now reminded of when Chuggaaconroy got flak for some foot fetish ERP post from 16 years ago
>>741357894i hope he does because by now we're in the final chapters and we need all the pieces in the board so whatever ending where heading towards doesn't feel cheap. plus he's been brought up since chapter 1 and had been in every chapter he can't just show up for a cameo at the end
>>741357015sex with kiki
>>741357894I feel like if he shows up it will be at the end at best, he's too important to just randomly show up in Chapter 5.
>>741357768No.>>741357802Weird bit is that I rarely coom to Toby's character, so I don't know why my mind decided on these two.>>741357858>>741357991It was legitimately a dream I had, just woke up to write it down.But yeah fuck my retard brain for not even going close to the doe.
>>741357991Need more Vessel Noelle art.
>>741358016>AND DEVELOPED A CRUSH ON THIS DEAD ASIAN CHICKI can't believe Frisk is dead in Deltarune.
>>741358096How could you want the doe when you had all of this to yourself?
>>741357894if it's not Chapter 5 then it's not happening period.
>>741358118need to become a drawanon at this point, there's never enough
Will we get vs Susie reprise or would that be chapter 6?https://youtu.be/PJTIQYxmZIg?si=sBISfVbjb5tcEIrV
I do want to fight serious Asgore but can't see a reasonable scenario for him to fight Kris as such.
>>741353548>I have faith in Toby to make the festival not terribleNot the normal route festival with the 46 minutes long unskippable s*selle scene + reddit kerdly gags, that's for sure. Straight up abandon all hope for normal route light world to be good, I'm serious.
>>741357379you can't just say perjew
How will your bingo card hold up?
THE RAPED
>>741358330Kris will just do reduced damage like against the Knight
>>741358267It can happen in 7, too.
>>741358372I'd like to make a bingo card, but I have no skills with image editing software.
>this is a 10/10 romance according to Toby
>>741355708It's the Shelter.
>>741358372That's a lot of couples being shot out of cannons.
>>741358485>If Noelle was her, she’d be projecting her sister onto me again…>Damn, that bitch has issues…
>>741358581Somehow you're supposed to think this is very romantic.
>>741358485I am going to jack off watching people in these threads seether over suselle when chapter 5 released. I might even post a picture of my cum after I bust a nut.
>>741354196these threads have reached a level of faggotry only rivaled by ch2 /utg/, we barely have any posters, half these threads just consist of the humanfag jerking off, BERD POSTING, and its still a notable improvement from how there threads were a week a ago. the janny can not best the eternal autism
>>741358623Most normal Suselle fag
>>741358674>half these threads just consist of the humanfag jerking off,Stop trying to shitstir about humans after the schizo that bitches about it got literally IP wiped yesterday. Just discuss the game.
>>741358623I'm jacking off more when wr once again overshadows that shit
>>741353548as long as toby doesn't make the festival a constant stream of ship teasing then it should be tolerable
>>741358674What's happening is irrelevant, since we'll get an influx of posters after Ch5 releases. Then maybe a month or two of sanity.
>>741358621Toby’s incest fetish leaking through again
>>741358330We will fight Asgore the same way Toriel joined our party in Chapter 3.NEVER trust Toby "Predictability BAD" Fox. Except when it comes to cringe ass lesbian couples with no chemistry, then it's lame and predictable as fuck.
>>741358623I don't understand why people would be like this.
Will she finally return?
>>741358863NoBacker characters will only get references and she already got hers
>>741358839>the same way Toriel joined our party in Chapter 3.Did momgravecoomers ever actually think about this from a gameplay standpoint
>>741358623I prefer the period blood art
>>741358780Reminder he had Chara quote this in genocide.
>>741358863Unfortunately no, but you can at least pay her tax with the golden widow.
>>741358839>NEVER trust Toby "Predictability BAD" Fox. I really hate Gerson, I think he's the character that has done by far the most damage to the perception of Deltarune and Toby Fox as an author.
>>741358913This angle of yours got raped and curbstomped the moment Gerson was able to temporarily join the party.
>>741358839Need more fat cats.
>>741358863This is her last chance
>>741358839he has a shadow crystal there's no way he doesnt get a fight get real
>>741358979Elaborate?From what I've seen everyone in existence like Gerson. What's your problem with the old tortoise?
>>741358997>glorified ACT lol
>>741359021You retard a Black Shard is not the same as a shadow crystal
>>741359021Same way Toriel was sure to interact with Dark World things due to being in the room? Temper your expectations.
>>741359041>glorified only reason the party was able to kill the titanlolconcession accepted btw
>>741359034If the original post wasn't enough for you to get it then there is not point in explaining it.
>>741358623Do you even like Suselle yourself?
It’s funny to me that Torielfags unironically wanted Susie and Ralsei to get cucked out of screentime
>>741359021Asgore will join your party and kick ass but be killed by Flowey just like at the end of Undertale
>>741359143It's all about anons
>>741359162People want Noelle, not Mary Susie and Asriel 2.
>>741359224>shipping yumyums
>>741358863If she doesn't show up now it's game over for her, sadly.
>>741359245Shippers make up most of the playerbase. Deal with it.
I refuse to believe with how much Catti and Jockington have been name dropped outside of interactions with them and in the Spamton Sweepstakes websites that they'll have absolutely zero relevance in the coming chapters. They even have their own talk portraits, be weird if nothing was ever done with either of them.
Finish your fanart before the game drops anon.Who knows if it'll stay canon or not.
>>741359162You already got raped a few posts above, twice
>>741359290Seems like a waste honestly
Stop saying Mary SusieYou're making me think that Susie will turn to the camera and say "Noelle dies when she turns 20"
>>741359290We spent half the game with them, Anon. At best you had a joke prophecy about beards. It's time to let go.
I like how Toriel lust fell off a cliff after she got boned in chapter 4 and proved she's a wine slut instead of the perfect mom.
At least Torielfags have some backbone unlike KnightKrisKekaroos
>>741359290Yeah man it's weird, why does Jockington even have all those portaits?Unrelated but,>In the time of american colonialization, Cortez was thought by the Mayans to be the embodiment of Quetzalcoatl, the feathered serpent god.>Because of his ability to grow a beard.
>>741359386Talk for yourself.
>>741359290They will do something, but they are like Berdly where they will be revelant in one chapter and then background
>>741359290pizzapants has a portrait too, is he gonna be key to the story too?
>741358674>These threads suck because they're literally /utg/ and because of humans and-*IP wiping noises*https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/tnum/741312331/deleted/deleted/filter/image/page/3/
>>741359386She was always like that
>>741359386>I like how Toriel lust fell off a cliffLiterally never happened, she's still getting killer fanart on the daily and each one of them are 50k likes bangers.
>>741359290>Before the clock strikes midnight, the shadow will grow!>O, the shadow will grow, serpentine!>Even when the clock ran back, the shadow was growing!>A patch of shadow, slithering on, slithering on, serpentine!Jockington is going to be important after your first ending, once you need to run the clock back and fuck with save files.
>>741359386I haven't jacked off to Toriel since seeing Chapter 4's ending. Hopefully the weird route will allow you to punish that whore.
>>741359090crystals are rendered as shards in the real world. can you make an argument why asgore is more likely to be holding a piece of the knight's weapon (or something with ties to it) as opposed to the item that makes people schizos? we literally only learn about the fact he has it because he has a little schizo monologue to himself in the bathroom
>>741359021Asgore has a blackshard, dude, not a crystal. I thought you would know this.
>>741359685you don't call a piece of translucent glass a "black shard" dipshit
>>741359165i like the idea that asgore's shard is black because its attempting to depict a future of him but has reached a dead end
>>741359593Then why does nobody post her here anymore? People still "like" Toriel, but nobody loves her anymore.
>>741359685You are a fake fanhttps://deltarune.wiki/w/BlackShard
>>741359402To be fair he's a squire to the Knight(s). So the theory is not completely bogus.
>>741359331>>741359384>>741359449>>741359517But I don't want to let go. I've latched onto the lunacy that comes from connecting red string from these characters to any sort of plot element that could be relevant.At times I wonder if they could've just been part of some story that got cut, with how much was missing from chapter 3 in the end it's not too out of the question they'd also drop entire characters. Maybe I have just fallen down into that Mike trap.
>>741359816I post her all the time but she triggers jannies too much.
>>741359402Kris Knighters are still present while Firegravers just disappeared.
>>741359816You can't love a whore You can like her though
>>741359165Why would his own flower kill him? The Flower Children will love him
>>741359976Toriel can still get frozen, FiregraveCHADS just switched elements, wise move desu.
>>741359924Oh no don't worry, I'm right there with you.The feathered serpant will crawl along the ground with the mortals and take to the sky when his true nature is revealed.
>>741360112>Serpant
>>741359924>spoilerProbably. It'll be all over soon don't worry
>>741359290They don't have text blips so they aren't going to be as relevant as Berdly.
>>741359950I'm drawing a blank on how to ragebait that. Fine, you win.
>>741360089Firegrave was about Toriel killing people, at least Kris got literally knighted.
I'm sad that Toby will probably make the lesbo romance a thing, it will be such a waste of an ip. So many even more unhinged mentally people will flock to this it will make helluva fandom look sane
>>741360210Berdly didn't have text blips in ch1 until ch2 released. It's possible. Not super likely, but possible.
>>741360264It's ok have this one, king.
>>741359386Lol, lmao.People LOVE whores.
>>741360312Why should I care? It's not like the fandom influence how much what I'm thinking of the game.
>>741360379'fraid so
>>741360210To be fair a lot of characters don't have unique text blips. It's not like Toby has been very consistent with the overall aesthetic of Deltarune when comparing chapters to one another. Would be nice if after the game is complete earlier chapters receive more polish.
>>741360389>Why should I care?because lesbo shit is boring and only validates mentally ill people. Romance choice should be left to the player based on actions in the game but that's too much to ask for these days
>>741360482Needs less ass and more belly.
>>741360482
>>741360328I'm pretty sure he always did though.
>>741360312It ain’t that bad. While Susie isn’t as head over heels over Noelle as vice versa, she still likes her enough even as a friend. Not like Kris would object to it. Lotta suselle haters cite the newest girl blogpost as character assasination even though Kris turned out fine and it was never gonna get any more worse than mean words being said. If dess never went missing and everything was normal Kris would be all for them getting together.
If you didn't beat Susie in the racing minigame you didn't beat the game.
>>741360541we are currently on bakery hours, check in again on fat tummy hours
>>741360312>I'm sad that Toby will probably make the lesbo romance a thingI thought anons here liked Kriselle?
>>741360517Meh. I don't care if who ends up with who.Even assuming you could choose your love interest, Kris would sabotage your efforts. It seems like a waste of time to me.The Knight, the Dark Worlds, the Roaring, the final prophecy, who is Ralsei, how did Asriel grow up with this different trauma, what was Kris' true plan - all more meaningful to me than shipping shit.
Would you rather>get totally betrayed by Kris and spend the rest of the game in the vessel>stay with Kris until the very end, outside of maybe one section in chapter 7 where you temporarily possess a different vessel
>>741360634Damn, I guess I truly was a secondary, RIP.
>>741360796The first. Kris has been fun but I want to get to my Vessel.
>>741353807Noelle is only a character when with Kris only
>>741360796First option.
>>741360603>citeI don't need to, i just hate it because it's crap, that's my only reason lmao
>>741360312>So many even more unhinged mentally people will flock to this it will make helluva fandom look sanethis is the undertale fandom. what else did you come here for?
>>741360796First one.
i hope they get to meet in the chapter 5 weird route
>>741360913Anons told me they were the same person thoughbeit?
sad how there isnt enough good toriel porn
>>741360796Give me my damn body back
>>741360852>Rudy out of nowhere
>>741360913Her reaction to her parents/sister being the Roaring Knight would probably make her go crazy.
>>741360713Kris is not a girl faget
>>741347724>Lets jump itDid a nigger draw this?
I want Deltarune to go completely off the rails, in a good way.There's plenty of times where the game has sort of pulled back the curtain to allow some creepier elements to show up. It'd be a shame if the rest of the chapters just followed a conventional "saving the world" plot and the spooks were only in the Weird Route.Maybe the bunker will end up being that if we ever get to explore it, a True Lab equivalent but instead of Amalgamates it's just what ever lurks in real darkness (like the titan spawn).
>>741360948Anon she's still getting daily porn and r34 is infested with her tf are you talking about
>>741360913I feel like if Noelle knew the Roaring Knight and it was her sister, she would just start killing people
>in chapter 5 YOU get your own body and get to flirt and romance with the other characters>jealousy relates to Kris being jealous of YOUscreencap this
>>741361015I'm sure it will, but that won't start until the dawn of the third act.
>>741361075>VesselNever going to happen.
>>741361013Idk.
>weird route>at the festival with noelle>walking around, interacting with stuff>suddenly hear Undertale's random encounter sound>enter an Undertale styled battle against a hometown resident
>>741360672Strongest bench in history
>>741361102>VesselsAre they considered humans, monsters or Floweys?
>>741360828It's actually pretty simple to beat once you see the race track lol.https://youtu.be/a690XvFjfoY?is=iznn4UsBff6SDKvS
>>741361075>YOU get your own body>VesselNot gonna happen but God I hope it does at some point.
>>741360883Kris would not be abused if they were loyal from the very beginning.
>>741361172The vessel is a tool.
>>741360796I do not have faith that the betrayal arc will be long>wowie Kris, you betrayed my trust but we are frens, next time tell me mmmkay?I can only see Susie getting pissed in weird route
>>741361172They are considered Vessel.
>>741361194True but that's part of her appeal.
>>741361172They're Goners. You make them in a goner maker.
>>741360948stop baiting for more pics, you greedy cunt
So the Vessel has to get used for something. If the player isn't going to get it back, what else could it be used for?I heard a theory put forward that Kris has always been the vessel. None of the things we selected in the goner maker are things Kris couldn't change with enough time to himself.
>>741357015Given Gooseworx himself is enough of a lolcow to get his own kiwifarms thread I'm convinced a lot of this "fanbase is hostile" shit is actually him overreacting and everyone deciding to side with him because "he made the popular circus show".
>>741361375What antics did he get up to before the show?
>>741361375>Using KiwiFarmsKill yourself
>>741361172They're Gooners.
>>741361178Yeah but I didn't know because I played it blind lol. Thankfully you don't get anything from doing it.
>>741347036kirs (male) mating press the deer (rape, mindbreak) and susie (consensual, cuckquean)
deer
>>741361172Copies.
Was the Introduction just an elaborate way to set the tone of choices not mattering and to imply (You) are just using Kris as the replacement vessel?Because if so that feels stupid, where is my vessel Toby. Where is my beautiful creation, the yellow one doesn't follow my commands and is hiding secrets sabotaging the entire plan.
>>741361538That artist had one job. Why is there not a thigh gap?
>>741361368Kris became shorter?!
>>741361172*ME.
>>741361128That will 99% happen, but later in end game, Berdly still breathing doesn't give me a feeling that we are killing lightners yet in ch5
>>741361597Vessel is shorter than Kris, actually.
People talk up Chapter 4 a lot, but I’m not sure I really feel the same way. I don’t remember much about the Church dark world that really stood out to me. Gerson was okay, he felt like a tool to develop Susie, but I wasn’t a big fan of her in 4. Well that’s not true, I liked her in the Light World just fine, but I’m not really impressed with how she’s going in the Dark World.
>>741358623I hate Suselle and the antichrist
>>741361307Yeah, maybe I'm not a Krisfag so I don't get IT you know?
>>741359290What would happen if Alphys told Catti and Kris to go for the chalk?
>>741361680I meant the fact that Kris was a kid and the Vessel was made to be a teenager from the start.
>>741360312Toby is smarter than that and he seem very 4chan pilled
>>741355891you can get an infinite amount of glowshards from the gacha machine in chapter 3
>>741361592>the yellow one doesn't follow my commands and is hiding secrets sabotaging the entire plan.I remain unsure what's supposed to be such a cardinal sin about this.Every decent story has tons of shit you don't know. Every decent story has characters, up to and including the main character, do shit without the player's input or permission. Are you really so upset by the game slightly altering the cosmetic elements of these necessary events?
>>741361907ANONYMOUS...I...
>>741361847The Vessel is a goner. Copies can be colored in with care, but there still has to be an original Kris for a goner to be made.
>>741360913She will by looking at the mirror
>>741361456Apparently a whole load of fetish stuff, including drilling into people's heads.>>741361490And if I was gooseworx I would probably be flipping out about how someone on the internet told me to kill myself and I was never going to make anything again.
>>741361538Is deer pussy phat or small and thight?
>>741357713You need to return the “going into games” machine to that retard you stole it from.
>>741361538>>741361643>>741361734
>>741362080Tight and puffy.
>>741361958Hes a fan of japanese autism like touhou and tumblr banned shitpost accounts like pjack. He would either give option to skip suselle or give choice for straight pairings
>>741362146>touhoudoesn't fill me with hope as touhou is the lesbo central
>>741359823>blackshard maintains its stats in the light worldIs there going to be an optional boss fight happening in the light world and your only chance against it is going to be having the blackshard?
>>741362195There are no lesbian relationships in Touhou.
>>741361958Toby is a /dbs/ poster actually
>>741361804Prophecy in shambles most likely.If not? Probably a darker take on the game with Catti's input and knowledge on the occult to draw comparisons to. If Susie was aggressive towards Darkners then how would a character like Catti react to them, drawing more comparisons to demons and the concept of real world objects becoming animate.
>>741361947>Are you really so upset by the game slightly altering the cosmetic elements of these necessary events?There's a non-zero amount of people that feel provoked by this due to the game framing (You) as a perceived character separate from the player character. As much as I love shitting on Kris the game would turn out worse off if this plot-twist wasn't in the game
>>741362212It's going to be the Omori scene where you stab someone and the fight abruptly stops to freak out
>>741362230Anon, that is true however fandom dictates the fanart that is produced, hence it has a ton of lesboshit
>>741359685>can you make an argument why asgore is more likely to be holding a piece of the knight's weapon he is literally standing in front of a sword when he's talking about the black shard
>>741362205Fat bitches...
>>741361538I thought she had hooves
>>741361947Some people are really fucking autistic and have a meltdown when video game characters don't do exactly what they want them to do.
>>741362351I don't give a shit about the fandom. When a fandom produces art of its girls banging its other girls that's fine. When the IP tries to make that art canon and it thus has to become an ugly girl hugging another ugly girl, we have a problem.
>>741361947KRIS HIT (ME) WITH A HOCKEY STICK
>>741361947It was a joke anon. I don't really think Kris should bend to my will entirely because then there wouldn't be a story to follow at all. I thought calling him "the yellow one" made it obvious.
>>741362353>can you make an argument why asgore is more likely to be holding a piece of the knight's weapon he is literally standing in front of a sword when he's talking about the black shard carol keeps weapons all over the place dipshit
>>741362205You know, maybe I don't mind being hypnotized.
>>741362520And every chapter antagonist has tried to actually kill (you), you got over it when it came from them.Or did you not? Are you one of those people who demands that a character who did evil stay in jail for the rest of the story even if they're having a redemption arc?
>>741362353unrelated tangent but who or what exactly was Asgore talking to in this scene?
>>741361538WHY YOUWEARING SUCH A SHORT SKIRTGET EQUIPPED GET EQUIPPED GET EQUIPPED
>>741361538>human shoesugh.
>>741362651Rudy
>>741361804This is a brilliant idea. Catti fits all the same prophecy criteria that Susie does. Well, maybe she won't have hope crossed on her heart, but Susie didn't at the start either.
>>741354974>he is not capable of making the game on his own at all at this pointThat's yet another reason why he was an imbecile for all the needless bullshit he brought to the game.Deltarune could be out by now if he never went much far from what chapter 1 was in terms of mechanics and length.
>>741362576You'd be surprised how many people unironically think like that. Remember crusader of light?
>>741361947I could speak on what is good for the story, or what is plausible to implement, from an analytical perspective, and yeah, the game would not be as good if Kris wasn't Kris.But as a game, enjoyment is found it trying to win, and Kris is a clear obstacle to our victory. From the perspective as an actor in deltarune's story, Kris is our enemy as much as the knight is.
>>741362146A lot of touhoufans are yurifags, even if Toby liking it means he's a lolicon according to himself I wouldn't use that as proof he's based.
>>741362780>Deltarune could be out by now if it never really went anywhereDamn, so profound.
Six days until Asgore dies!
>>741362961>But as a game, enjoyment is found it trying to win, and Kris is a clear obstacle to our victory."Winning" is getting to the end of the chapters. Kris isn't an obstacle to that. You mean you have some specific idea of how the story is going to play out that you're pretty sure Kris is working against.
>>741361947As much as I meme about Frisk/Chara being better than him, you're right. The game is better with Kris as he is.
>>741362817>Remember crusader of light?What's his deal nowadays anyway? Has he returned?
>>741363124He's gone forever.
>>741360603Gay shit is gay and should be opposed on principal
>>741363124>>741362817/utg/ why are you brigading /v/
>>741363124Last I heard he was bumming around Steam Offtopic.
>>741362651he knows about dark worlds so he got an habit of talking to objects as if they were alive
>>741361947whenever people make posts like that i assume they're usually just making a joke, at most maybe just wanting to see their vessel againunless it's that col guy, that dumbass actually is retarded enough to earnestly say shit like that
>>741355405>Susie when Kris: Kris would le love this...why am i le thinking of Kris right now? They would le love this too...but why am i thinking of them?swap Kris with Ralsei and you're right on the money
>>741363124Just checked, he's currently whining about chapter 5 being Japan because he specifically wanted more medieval western fantasy. He thinks this is yet more "subversion" and the game failing to adhere to the premise it supposedly promised him with chapter one.(Why do so many people who schizo out about the game act like chapter 1 promised some random bullshit that's nothing like Toby?)
>>741363124One day, he vanished without a trace. They say he shattered across time and space.
>>741361947>>741362301>>741362465>>741362961>>741363115He's completely right though.
>>741363124i've seen him a couple times in these threads as of latein fact it's possible he might be in THIS VERY THREAD
>>741363392CoL is dead and buried plus he didn't even like the loyal human so who cares?
>>741363392I didn't come to Deltarune to seal fountains, kill the knight, or stop the roaring. I think anyone who did is a retard.
>>741363112"Winning" means uncovering the mystery, stopping the roaring, rescuing/killing everyone, and pushing through our preferred ship, whichever one that is. To those ends, Kris has:>Stopped Spamton from giving us critical information>Stopped us from defeating the knight during chapter 3.>Stopped us from being able to enter shelter codes whenever we want to.>Refused to ask the questions correctly at the church>Attempted to undo our weird route progress in chapter 4>Stopped us from reading the whole guitar code even if it's pretty obvious the last number is 5.>Refused to open countless doors and closets.So we aren't winning until he learns his place or we use someone else to do the things he won't.
I came to Deltarune to masturbate.
>>741358913>FIREGRAVE FIREGRAVE MUH FIREGRAVEJust shut the fuck up. What people most expected is that Toriel and the police officer would do SOMETHING in chapter 3. Goofing around like Berdly or ch 1 Susie you know. Stop with this goddamn straw man everything time the subject comes up.
>>741363392He's still a retard because he missed that the point of the weird route is to groom Noelle into a proper vessel and then empower her to kill the Knight (her sister). If you don't like Kris, you don't have to put up with him, you can fuck him over.
>>741363415>subversion is when an original story doesn't go the way I want>subversion is also when an unoriginal story doesn't go the way I want>why doesn't anyone care when I call stuff subversive?
>>741363415Link ain't a moody cunt that says nay when I bully the cuccos and he gets pecked to death because of it.
>>741363450Well, I needn't gossip. After all, it's rude to talk about someone who's listening.
>>741363285I don't know which interpretation of this is better, that she's so casually talking about us, or that she's a vessel and is still outwardly acting completely normal.
I get why it seems like toby made the chapter 5 dark world Japanese inspired since if it was medieval fantasy but with plants it might have been too simular to chapter 1 and the flower ruddins aren't helping
>>741363586"Winning" means progressing from chapter one to chapter seven, which Kris has so far been unable to do jack or shit about.Your objective as a player was not to obtain whatever info Spamton has because there isn't a version of the game where you can get it in the first place.The random story shit you've attached to your "win/loss" condition is just that, random story shit, not something you had any control of, and thus not your objective.
>>741363586>"Winning" means [ARBITRARY SET OF CRITERIA]
>tfw already certain ending will be changing the past to make Kris the kid who went missing instead of Dess>tfw it’s gonna end like Life is Strange>tfw the player was never summoned in the first place so you can only watch the world and not interact with it anymore
>>741363767That's Kris's goal, but it won't actually happen. In the normal route, Susie will convince Kris to stop for her sake. In the weird route, (you) will hop ship to Noelle and kill the knight before Kris can complete his plans.
>>741363767>If you get all the shadowcrystals/eggs/whatever, you find you can actually interact with the world in a Sims-like capacity>SBURB COMING 2035
>>741363415I’m not buying nu-OoT but I hope Ruto is hot
>>741363767>>741363871>>741363889can we please not pull picrel
>>741363807Not canon
>>741363392Trvke, i didn't came here just for Susie to steal my protagonismI'M THE MAIN CHARACTERI WILL PLAY LIKE A TRADITIONAL RPGI WILL CLAIM THE GIRLGASTER PROMISED MY DELTARUNE 3000 YEARS AGO
>>741363889>toby actually initiates the apocalypse the moment he releases the next game, for creative authenticityLudokino...
>>741358979I don't think what Gerson said is too bad, it's just that Toby doesn't actually do what he preached through him.>>741359034Personally I've grown to dislike DR Gerson a lot on my second playthrough, and this is coming from someone who WANTED him to be there and be a secret boss.All his amusing bits are early on, after that he only gives the most basic advice ever, has a hype aura anime moment, and is generally a very typical and tropey character in a series that usually does the opposite.He also lost all the edge he had from UT Gerson during geno.And a tumblrite guy using a Tolkien expy to preach his own taste is extremely pretentious.
>>741363767It’s a foregone conclusion the world will be destroyed since it’s an UT prequel
>>741363767But is that the normal ending?Or the New Future HE brought you here to create?
>>741364014>Toby doesn't actually do what he preached through him.Toby loves all the things he puts in his works, though. At worst he's dissatisfied with his ability to portray them, he never has contempt for the source material like 95% of modern creators seem to.
What is his problem?
>>741364041>UT prequelAm I the only person that feels this removes practically any sort of identity Deltarune would have. If anything UT was just the prototype.
>>741363761You're engaging with deltarune as piece of media rather than a story that you're a part of. That's not wrong, but it's a different conversation. Obviously the options in the game are the only ones that exist, but by only considering those, you aren't thinking about the setting as a real place or the characters as people making their own decisions. >>741363762Fine, it's arbitrary, but it's mine. Different people might have different goals which they consider important, but Kris is an obstacle to any goal other than "Do whatever Kris wants."
>>741364140Undertale is the beta, yes. UT trannies are forever seething at deltaGODS
>>741364117having fun?
>>741364157CoL is a jew? Explains a lot, actually.
>>741364157I'll be honest first i'm hearing of this guy, /utg/ fag? I just thought shitposting about Kris "disobeying" is funny and wouldn't be a touchy subject.
>>741364157>deltarune's biggest hater is an israeli shillyou can't make this shit up
>>741364178>Obviously the options in the game are the only ones that exist, but by only considering those, you aren't thinking about the setting as a real place or the characters as people making their own decisions.I can think of them as such just fine. I just know that their entire existence is going to be within the bounds of the game, and thus the rules of the game (like "only options that exist are real") are relevant to how I think of them as well.I have not vested any part of my ego or satisfaction with resolving any of the things that are openly, in-universe, presented as problems to solve. I'll be dissatisfied if many things don't happen, but they're incidental things, like if Toby gives us no more details on what the fuck dark worlds are mechanically for the rest of the game.
>chapter 5 comes out>get to the end>the roaring happens>game over>toby never releases chapter 6sigh... i hate to say it but i can see tobert pulling this quirk chungus shit
>>741363905Toby did say he doesn’t expect the ending to be well received.If has this opinion about his own story’s ending, you can expect it’ll be some bullshit. Think about it, if people already get mad over an ending for something they were emotionally invested in for 2 hours like a movie, imagine being invested for 10 YEARS and the ending is infuriating as balls. >inb4 but Undertale had a good satisfying ending Deltarune is not Undertale
>>741364481ok but this is literally what gerson tells you will happen
>>741358863she'll get referenced as a darkner sucking off spamton as a joke and thats all you're getting
>>741364178>Kris is an obstacle to any goal other than "Do whatever Kris wants."And "beat the game".
>>741364505I think you make a fair point, but at the same time, this reads kind of like a self-fulfilling prophecy. You're convincing yourself it's going to be bad before you've even seen it.
>>741364428>I have not vested any part of my ego or satisfaction with resolving any of the things that are openly, in-universeMost people who post about Kris being a disobedient brat aren't either, they're just engaging with the work from an in-universe immersed perspective since that's what makes the game fun to them.
>>741363807Canon.
>>741364505People only think Undertale has a good and satisfying ending because it makes a big show of everything going "your way". Deltarune is trying to show that this isn't the only way for a game to be written and people are freaking out over it because they thought Undertale was written like that... just because?
>>741352887>spoileryou fool, it'll be so canon you'll weep. Literally the only ship with multiple unskippable cutscenes.
>>741364315He posts on /v/ too. Usually takes his name off, but sometimes forgets. Also likes to talk about Dark Souls 1 linking the fire being his perfect non-subversive prophecy-fulfillment game ending.
>>741364632You’re damn right I am. I should really stop getting all gloomy and angry about something I haven’t even seen yet
>>741364178>Kris is an obstacle to any goal other than "Do whatever Kris wants."Irrelevant since he's unable to do shit.>throw the ball of junk>freezes Berdley>tell Ralsei to keep smiling>tell Susie he'll never play piano again>rapes Noelle>forces the Knight to SWOON his new friend>make him relive his trauam through Egg Rooms
>>741364505>Toby did say he doesn’t expect the ending to be well received.It's either going to be a "bad ending" where things don't end well for the cast. Or it's going to be the sort of ending that is near impossible to write in a way that's satisfying so ends up half-baked.>The story, it became so grand, so overwhelming,>Some say it swallowed up the author himself.
>>741364687Well, if they're engaging with the work from an in-universe perspective then they should understand that Kris probably has in-universe goals and reasons for their actions that we're not privy to, and that their control over Kris is not meant to be absolute in an in-universe sense.What bothers me is that the mindset that Kris should obey more is founded in valuing gameplay over story, but then the things people want to achieve with a more obedient Kris only have value in a story sense and not a gameplay sense. It's inconsistent, flip-flopping views.
I still can't believe its actually happening so soon. It feels so far away and yet 5 days usually goes by like nothing. I am so fucking scared
>>741364505Undertale pacifist was satisfying because it was a 99 percent happily ever after ending. Geno was satisfying because the fans wildly misinterpreted it.Deltarune's ending is at the very least going to be divisive because it is a literal fever dream instead of a calculated wish fulfilment ending like pacifist.>>741364632nta, I convinced myself I was going to hate the main plot since 2021, I just wasn't expecting to loose the side plots I enjoyed so early on the game.
>>741364778The game where the whole point of the prophecy is that it's a tool of oppression used to keep humanity subservient? Where fulfilling the prophecy only serves to keep the world in a state of decay and stagnation for the sake of a few dying gods? Wow.
>>741364140Yeah, I don't want either game to lead to each other. Let Undertale and Deltarune stand on its own feet.
>>741364505I have already accepted the fact that I'm not gonna like the ending. I'm still gonna get mad about it of course, because a part of me still hopes it will be good, but, if I really think about it, it is impossible for the ending to not be disappointing for me. The main thing I'm hoping for is that the parts leading up to the ending will be good at least.
>>741364847>What bothers me is that the mindset that Kris should obey more is founded in valuing gameplay over storyIt’s not even that, self-inserters just want a story that’s so formulaic that it could’ve been made by browsing tvtropes
Behold, the strongest Deltarune character who managed to escape from the Knight two chapters in a row.The only reason you get to fight the Titan in Ch4 is because the Knight confirmed Toriel was no longer in the church after spending the beginning of the chapter roaming around. Toriel's kidnapping being the Knight's number one goal is what kept it from just straight up summoning a Titan in Ch3 to obliterate the party and had to settle with a 1v3. Whatever her purpose is is much more important than spamming fountains to cause the Roaring the supposedly standard way.
>>741364912I was dooming so hard about an august release it still doesn't feel close. Next Wednesday is gonna feel weird.
>>741364912Can’t wait a second longer I need it NOW
>>741364505I always shill skies forever blueThe meta ending is pretty good, Toby can make good endings outside of ut
>>741364939>Geno was satisfying because the fans wildly misinterpreted it.Did they? Lots of people misinterpreted it as Chara either possessing Frisk and killing everyone because she was EVIL and kills you at the end or that Chara was a victim and kills you in an act of justice. Neither are satisfying.
He's gonna do a repeat of Mother 3, that's why he said people won't necessarily like it. It's gonna be very ambiguous and a lot of people are not gonna like that.
>>741364912Like I said this WAIT has been going by super fast.
>>741364946But he gets to be a noble knight who fulfills the prophecy by fighting a bunch of bad guys to death! It's totally not subversive, see?
>>741365171I don't care about the meta shit. I just wanted a game with the comedy and aesthetics of UT/DR but centered on a more normal straightforward story.
>>741360713i don't care how many times you tumblr heathens try and gaslight me with your gay ass art and esoteric "theories" kris is NOT a girl and kriselle is NOT yuri. now begone spirit of epstein
>>741365171>searched it up to listen to it again>right underneath it was a kralsei amv version of it
>>741365270Pretty sure the comedy and aesthetics of UT/DR would never come from a mind that has any urge to create a "straightforward" story in the sense you're looking for.
>>741365270It’s called Earthbound btw
>>741365193More in the sense that people turned Sans into a superhero and Chara into a yandere demon, the actual point about detachment for fictional characters going completely over most fans's heads.I don't say this as a criticism, I've grown to enjoy all the fluff the early fandom made.
>>741365270Anon Undertale would NOT have been as big of a deal as it was without the metanarrative. It’s my favorite aspect of Toby’s writing cause it’s so rare to see a game do it properly.
My objective? Saving these children.
>>741364847It's not really between valuing gameplay or story, since deltarune without rails would be a shitty for the gameplay and story, an overbloated mess of a game with crazy difficulty spikes and tons of events that just happen without build up.We know Kris has goals we're not privy to, but we know they're at odds with ours so that's why he's a problem.It's about rooting for the "player" character over Kris. It's not an actual prescription about the game, it's the same class of discussion as calling the knight a fraud or wanting to see Ralsei open up. It a way of participating in the illusion of the game.
>>741365443Okay, yeah, I agree. The early fandom version of genocide was just a typical story of a demon possessing the sweet maiden and her prince charming having to save her. Nothing to do with the actual game
What I'm most interested about is in knowing what exactly is the point in the game that would be the catalyst to the weird route. What I mean is, what situation would have the player think "No, there has to be some way of getting a different outcome here.", and thus finally leading the player into the path of the weird route. I personally think it's gonna be an unwinnable fight involving Noelle being on your side.
>Beat chapter 5>Screen fades to black>"To be concluded">"2027"Your response?
>>741364912>tfw we went from dooming that ch5 is releasing in december, to ch7 will be in development by the end of the year>we might see the ending in two yearsIt happened so fast bros... i don't want to leave yet
>>741365583basedface and point at the screen
>>741365460I don't disagree but I hated how video gamey it was treated in universe.Flowey shouldn't be talking about vidya game terminology, he should be explaining the save system in a way someone in his setting would perceive it (time travel/looping).
>>741365368Toby isn't an original genius. UT/DR is just a 90's to 2010's western cartoon setting with internet humor on top, no executive meddling and no holding back for children.>>741365376Earthbound (but not Mother 1 or 3) and some of the Mario RPGs are the closest thing I know. Digital Circus is even closer but it isn't a game and has a lot of the same issues I have with Toby's writing.
>>741364991Toriel is less important than Undine, the knight choose to take her instead. The knight might just be trying to harvest DT, since we know that it takes DT to open fountains, Undine and Toriel both have high DT, and the knight started opening more fountains after taking Undine.
>>741365583Restart the counter and WAIT again.
>>741365583Producer-san SAVED Deltarune.
Kris Kris Kris Kris Kris
>>741364991The knight can only open as many fountains at once as it has souls. Extracting a monster soul is tricky and can only be done in the bunker
>>741365517>it's the same class of discussion as calling the knight a fraud or wanting to see Ralsei open upI don't think anyone unironically believes the knight is weak, but many people also unironically hate Ralsei because he's "hiding important information from us". It doesn't come across as just participating in the game as if it's real, it comes across as people getting their wires crossed and forgetting that Ralsei's "choice" not to tell us something isn't the same as any of the choices we have as a player.
>>741365443It's not really about detachment. Players have a perverted sentimentality. The yandere characterization is really fitting, the characters we murder were killed because we love them.
>>741365532UTY's geno route is decently close to that, and I enjoyed it a lot besides the super bosses not being very fun to play.
>>741364912I still don't understand why it was a bundle with 3 and 4.The last scene of Chapter 4 felt fitting for a stopping point; what's the point of concluding a semi-trilogy with 5? What can it possibly bring to the table?
>>741364912I'd be more worried about further chapters>Credits roll>next chapter...>2028!
>>741365583>chopping up the chapters AGAIN?Just wait until 7 is ready Toby. And no, I don't believe you can make it before 2028 unless they're both pathetically short.
>>7413658645 probably has a massive cliff hanger with the roaring or whateverI'm just praying he doesn't force us to wait for 6/7 together, that would be retarded. I PAID FOR THE GAME TOBY GIVE ME THE CHAPTERS WHEN THEY'RE DONE.
>>741365864>What can it possibly bring to the table?Filling out the rest of the teaser information from the Sweepstakes that wasn't fully expanded on in 3+4... Also another cliffhanger, see you next year, hope you riked it.
>>741365673>UT/DR is just a 90's to 2010's western cartoon setting with internet humor on top, no executive meddling and no holding back for children.I disagree. Undertale's setting doesn't come across like a western cartoon at all, primarily because it tries to explain why the enemies don't really mean harm even as they fight, rather than letting you throw them all in jail for attacking you or whatever. And if the humor were just "internet humor" then Undertale wouldn't have taken off like it did. It takes someone with a specific mindset processing internet humor to get a sense of humor like what went into UT/DR.
>>741365862Yellow's genocide route is nothing like I described, what? It's just a revenge fantasy.
>>741365652Nonsense. He's a 8~ year old kid. Of course he sees the reality warping mechanics as vidya adjacent. It fits his character.
>>741365864I feel like ch 1+2+3 is "disc one" and 4+5+6+7 will be "disc two". Look at how the scale of damage and health numbers changes from chapter 3 to chapter 4. Thus, I theorize that Toby wanted chapter 5 attached to 4 so that people wouldn't mistake 4 as part of "disc one".
Canon Kris boob size at the end of the thread.
>>741365996>It's just a revenge fantasy.They deserved it.
WHEN THE LIGHT IS RUNNING LOW
>>741365970Maybe we simply have a different focus when reading the game. UT/DR always had the same appeal something like SpongeBob or Adventure Time had for me for example.
>>741366093This but for the other 2 humans.
>>741365792>I don't think anyone unironically believes the knight is weakWhen people call the knight a fraud, it's more about boasting their superiority to them. It's just in character gloating over an enemy.Some people are confused about the way storytelling works and are taking things too seriously. It is just a game. Often the things that people say which sound like the confused people aren't actually coming from the same place though, which is the point I've been trying to get across.
>>741366093>>741366180Autistic tranny faggot
>>741366103I think Yellow's genocide misses a lot the mark of what genocide is, even more than the earlier fandom did. Somehow it's still its best route, though.
Tori's canon butt size at the end of the thread.
>>741366078I'd agree if chapter 5 was keeping line with the darker tone 4 had but from the newsletter it seems to be the inverse. Which feels out of place for being over halfway through the game.Unless it's going to be a bait and switch and it isn't going to be all sunshine and daffodils
>>741365583>TO BE CONCLUDED>YESTERDAY
>>741366169If I had to make a similar comparison, UT/DR appealed to me for a reason something more like ChalkZone or Code Lyoko. An alternate world with its own mechanics that we get to see explored in some depth alongside the main plot which intersects both worlds.
>741366259>No posts like this last threadIf the IP wipe didn't make it clear it really is just one schizo that sleeps in the early morning
>>741366180This but for the other human.
>>741366262It doesn't have the same meaning of Undertale but I don't think they were going for that in the first place.
>>741366184>Some people are confused about the way storytelling works and are taking things too seriously. It is just a game.Jevil?
>>741366262Matter is, I don't like what UT's genocide is so that's a bonus for me.
>>741366325deltarune... yesterday?
WIll I be able to fuck Bratty in chapter 5?
>>741366283This but for Tori's children.
>>741366325>>741366387
>>741366309Tonally it will probably bounce back for like the first half of the chapter and begin descending again.In game design, we can only really wait and see. But like I said, chapter 3 to chapter 4 is the biggest shift in numbers we've got so far, I doubt that means nothing.
Catti's canon gut size
>>741366262It was natural, since both protagonists were differents.Frisk probably was indifferent to everyone, while Clover was seeing everyone as guilty.
>>741366283>>741366463now these are some ritualposts i can get behind
>>741366463what the hell are they feeding her ?
>>741366354>>741366382Yeah, I agree it's not going for what Undertale did. It is still Yellow's best route for a reason even if it's something that goes against what Undertale sets up.
>>741366442>Tonally it will probably bounce back for like the first half of the chapter and begin descending again.I can't wait to see everyone trying to act as if everything is fine only to be faced with the cold hard truth.
>>741366393No but you will be able to fuck Temmie
>>741366463She's not THAT fat yet.
>>741366463Fat.
>>741366549but I want Bratty
>>741366309>>741366442>>741366541>doing chapter 3 again
>>741366325>loop theory is real and we have to go back to previous chapters
>>741362236Unironically true btw
Muffet's canon doughnut size!
>>741366418Kill yourself
>>741366470Frisk/Chara did hate everyone, but the goal of genocide is power and curiosity rather than revenge.
>>741366695*IP wiping noises*
>>741366336For me it's an unique fantasy world where I can have a fun time with wacky archetypical characters like the shows I mentioned, alongside the appeal classic creepypastas have for me.
>>741366262You can't really make the same point Undertale did without repeating yourself or butchering the message. That said, Undertale Yellow's spin on it left a bit more to be desired.
Doughelle canon size at the end of the thread
>>741364505>the story cuts just before the big final confrontatiom as the player gets disconnected >"le write your own ending"Your reaction?
>>741366463>>741366508it runs in the family, the lasagna recipe, that is
>Everyone is united to post their favorites canon sizesBeautiful
>>741364505>>741364632>>741364702>>741364798>>741364939Toby didn't say that.
>>741366819I thought it was the cornbread.
>>741366813ftfy
>>741366636Not exactly.Chapter 3 was somewhat existential about the nature of Dark Worlds - the value of Darkners, how too much escapism tire people out - while this hypothetical Chapter 5 would revolves around postponning darker truths for happy times still marred with them.
>>741366913
>>741365749This is absolutely 100% true to an extent I don't think some people can even fathom. Tard wrangling is so fucking important in creative industries.
>>741366017This.Sans doesnt use the vidya lingo for example
>>741366786I have never played this game, how was it's "genocide" route?
>>741366262>I think Yellow's genocide misses a lot the mark of what genocide is, even more than the earlier fandom did.and that's a good thingsometimes it's good when a game is just fun and isn't trying to preach something to you
Does it have to end?
>>741366913Damn, I wish I looked like that
>>741367109Her BMI? Nah, there's no limit.
>>741367065genocide is the true routeif you try to go pacifist the game just stalls foreversomething something "immortality bad"
>>741367004Chapter 6 is probably going to be done before the end of the year. The producer is the unsung hero. We might not even have 3 and 4 right now if it wasn't for him.
>>741366634You don't get to choose who you fuck in this world...
>>741367124>>741367197Some characters are good fat, I don't think Noelle is one.People sleep on Alphys
>>741367004Producer seems like an insufferable asshole who lives by his ethics and morals but this is the kind of person the creative process needs to take off
>>741367218the fuck you mean,that's the one few things I actually can choose
...You know, I forgot it was Thursday.
>>741364505I've read chainsawman and homestuck and a bunch of other shit where towards the later half Quality starts nose diving and people including myself start desperately coping and trying our absolutely hardest to interpret things in the most positive way that one could possibly try, but in the end the creator completely and totally ignores all of the connections, relations, accidental moments of kino and cause and effect they stumbled through to jam their predetermined ending into a place it doesn't belong, and that fragile janga tower of hopes and copes falls apart.There are still stories where this doesn't happen they just never start waning in the second half
>>741367105>yellowfags don't want to think when playing their gamesAs expected by their negative IQ level
>>74136731090% of the franchise doesn't think, it is how we ended with 5000 edgy sans AUs that completely miss "the point"that said, not every game needs a message. a game can be fun just to be fun
>>741367198That really sounds lame honestly. I'm glad I didn't play it.
>>741367286I still liked CSM's ending in spite of how obviously rushed it was. It was dumb but I liked it. It made me feel something, which is more than can be said for everything after the falling devil arc.
>>741367402the gameplay is fun but it has some pacing issues, and the characters aren't as charming as UT so you don't get as attached to them in the short time you see them to care that much
>>741367385>we're retarded and don't think and that's good because most are like this Are you trying to agree with me or?
>>741367385There's no such thing as a game without a message, only one where the creators and/or players didn't think about it.
>>741367310To be fair how do you iterate on Undertale's greater metanarrative without repeating it? But Undertale Yellow could stand to have a clearer narrative vision
>>741367490What's the point of Tetris?
>>741367286this is my biggest fear with DR, I really hope tobias doesn't fumble it like digital circus did>>741367485>>741367490what's the message of mario?
>>741367552https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTFG3J1CP8
Lots of fatties ITT
We made it to the end of the thread! Let us be thankful for this moment.
Me super prepared for the festival date
Why do fetishfags feel the urge to shove their garbage into everyone's faces?
>>741367606don't count your chickens before they hatch, threads have been deleted on page 10 before
>>741367667Be glad it's not NTRfags.
>>741367589Ridiculous cake is so good.
Mald about it.
>>741367527I don't want to repeat it, I was just being a jerk. I do think it would be better if it wasn't just a revenge fantasy
>>741367552A bit of "you can't plan for everything" and a bit of "doing your work well gets you more work".I doubt anyone involved in its creation thought about any of this, though.>>741367579Even simpler. Just something along the lines of "do your best". It's why "just Mario" is nonexistent these days, because they need another character attached to him with some further gimmick to make that "do your best" come across less generic.
>>741367667We don't, we just happened to notice that there were several of us in the same place.
>>741367606Not a bad thread all things considered.
>>741367819I think you're looking too deep into things that just exist because. Not everything needs a deeper meaning or message. Things can exist just to exist.
>>741367448Like technically I like the end point, but how they got their is incredibly stupid, they could have probably landed it better but not rushing as much and changing some things in the last quarter...I feel We would have been better off to have just ended at part 1 and just leave denji's boring slice of life up and meeting power again in some other form to imaginationAldo JJK's ending was actually pretty decent all things considered
>>741367667The Kris boob size ritualpost always generates some sort of insanity when posted.
noooo she is slender!!Also would her teeth get in the way, i think that would be kinda hot faha
why does the devil have to tempt me today
>>741367819The guy you were arguing with literally said he was retarded so I don't know why you're arguing with him.
>>741367937There is no such thing as something that "just exists" in fiction. All things are arranged as they are because of thematic connections that dictate where they work and where they don't. The blocks drop faster when you get a higher score not just because the game has to end eventually but because it "feels right", and it "feels right" because the themes align with the gameplay.
>>741367948>but how they got their is incredibly stupidYeah I had stopped reading a little after the aging devil because of how retarded the whole thing got. I only picked it back up after it was announced it was ending soon.
>>741368053Not really, something can exist just because the creator thought it was cool and that's it, it didn't need to have a pre planned 4D chess move with 10 layers of meaning behind it.
>>741368043Hi, it's me. I'm the devil. You should go for it.
>>741367819I bet your literature teacher love to have you around.Again, you can also say even the most serious work of literary fiction has moments of self indulgency, that doesn't mean 1984 and Looney tunes aren't into two extreme distinct categories on that regard.You sound like the "everything's political" retards.
>>741368053>There is no such thing as something that "just exists" in fiction. That’s like most of Dragon Ball
>>741368120The creator thinking it's cool is because it resonates with themes they haven't thought about enough yet. Nothing is cool "just because".
>>741368043Coomposts winning bigly.
>>741368204The curtains are fucking blue
>>741367991This. Best Noelle fanart is when it’s her slender figure and delicate frame
>>741368241You are fucking illiterate. Your teachers were in the right even if their sole goal was to make you suffer, which it wasn't.
>>741368176Dragon Ball has themes.
What happened here?
>>741368176Nope. Everything that "just exists" in dragon ball exists for reasons that at most the creator doesn't understand fully. Nothing exists for no reason.
Yellow flower darkner will have a kitsune darkner gf TRUST
