Sounds like a bunch of standard r*ddit commie nonsense

nigga saying kekaroo like it's 2015

>>741347973
this isnt ifunny, say nigger or go back

Real humans don't type 'kekaroo'.

How is he greedy? They never did payed mods. You could argue that Bethesda is greedy because they went ahead with it anyway with their Creation Club.

>Decades ago
>Literally says one day ago
Go to bed you dipshit Timmy cock sucker.

>>741348021
I've seen government affiliated marketers use it, but I'm not sure they are human.

>>741347756
>mods

No, from the very beginning he was out to fuck over gamers.
He openly admitted the only reason he made Steam was to stop people selling half-life 2/renting it because he knew it was a six hour game but linking it to an account, despite being a single player game, was the way to prevent him losing money. He already bitched too much about piracy but couldn't kill that. He wanted to kill the used game market on PC to get even more money and he did a great job of it.

>>741348040
Trolled softly

>>741348071
Everyone advised Valve against making Steam, stop making up random shit

>>741347756
>look at the reddit post
>it actually was 11 years ago

the rot was setting in long before we recognized it

When is Tim Weensy getting bored of making steam threads

>>741348132
Amazing
Thank you for your trolling
Now, quickly! Move onto the DRM was in existence before Steam and argue that Steam is purely about DRM

>>741348267
You spouting some schizo shit doesn't make it true. Feel free to point out a better launcher than steam

>>741348345
Ok but that's not an argument that counters the fact he set out to kill PC gaming and make it into his monopoly

>>741348380
I don't think monopoly means what you think it means.

>>741348487
>i don't think
Well, at least you're admitting you're only giving opinions instead of facts

You have a nice day. Hopefully the next person falls for your bait.

>>741348380
>monopoly is when you're not forcing anyone to use your store and they naturally kill themselves due to shit service

What % of Gabe's wealth comes from whale box openers and poor old grandmas buying steam bux for Indian scammers?

If he "cared" he wouldn't let either thing exist, but the Valve bottom line depends on human misery to fund mega-yachts.

>>741348380
Is valve's legal team actively taking down comprting platforms? Then not a monopoly, its that simple

>>741347756
he's right desu

>>741348587
>whale box openers
those are subhuman slow iq cattle that deserve to be milked
if you want to stop it start with casinos, valve is small fry compared to those

>poor old grandmas buying steam bux for Indian scammers?
valve is phasing out gift cards

>>741348380
>monopoly
Literally nobody from steam is stopping epic games store from being successful, Tim. The problem is its a retarded platform that people only use for fortnite and if fortnite was on steam your platform would die overnight.
Why doesn't epic game store rise up to steams level instead of crying to anyone who will listen to try and bring steam down to your level?

>>741347756
But he's not wrong. Money is how the community steers work. Just look a the current state of gaming. Everything is flopping in the AAA space, unless it has Capcom on the cover. AA studios are punching above their grade and overcoming the AAA studios. All because money steers the work.

>doesn't actively undercut competitors
>doesn't actively search exclusivity deals
>doesn't sell at a loss to drive out competition
idk man, epic games strikes all of those and still can't compete even though Timmy is going by the book.

>>741348021
kekaroo !

>>741347756
Yeah that's cool bro just put the fries in the bag.

>>741349095
the system would've been genuinely fine if they just put a button that says donate alongside the mod download on steam
that's the norm nowadays anyway

>points out how the paid shills are trolling and shilling
>said shills then reorganize tactics to argue against points never made

everytime
Listen, I support Steam. I do. Gabe has some of the shittiest DRM to ever exist. I'm overjoyed he's managed to kill gaming and make it easier than ever to pirate but do better than bringing up Epic - Epic vs steam isn't the issue. It's Gabe being a cunt is the issue.

t.day one pirating half life 2 :)

>>741347756
Arent a bunch of mods behind patreon paywalls now? This was back when there weren't easy self service tools for selling mods

>>741349249
>points never made
you claimed it was a monopoly and then you scurried away and made this condescending reddit post
or do you think words mean nothing

>>741347756
The difference between GabeN and other CEOs is that he received the backlash, understood the backlash and then backed off from the idea, whereas 99% of other CEOs would have just doubled down and called their consumers/fanbase stupid.

>>741347756
Paid mods are a good thing
Modders should be rewarded for doing good work

>>741349389
Paid mods are a good thing when Steam gets their cut, and don't forget about the developer ;)

>>741349389
Modders yearn for the reins

>>741349389
The argument against it was Valve taking 30% of the cut and the publisher (mainly Bethesda) taking another 50%

So effectively you're only getting 30% of the income

>>741349350
The real difference is that Gabe is an owner not a CEO, and that valve is a private company which means it is actually legally allowed to have enough money. If you are a corporate executive for a publically traded company and you are not attempting to maximize quarterly profits it is a crime.

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>>741349389
fuck you no you don't
most mods are just stolen content from other games
and if not that the ability sell mods alos creates a market for mod pirates who will take your free mod, sell it, then DMCA takedown your free mod
paid mods are supported exclusively by third-world trash that use it as income instead of getting real jobs. real modders make mods from passion alone. if you support paid modding you should simply die. end of fucking story

>741349249
>timmybot trying to pretend anyone who doesn't have gaben/steam is a shill
>timmybot actually trying to pretend openly in public that the alternatives to gaben are even worse
pathetic

>>741349624
but stealing takes effort. ht has to be rewarded for his theft so he can steal some more for us to get nice mods.

amount of money lost for your studio because a game mod copied your model = 0 $

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paid modders deserve the most violent and painful deaths imaginable like some fucking unit 731 shit
i'm serious

>>741348021
kekaroo nigger

>>741349624
you're retarded

>>741349724
>ht has to be rewarded for his theft
that's not how theft works dumbass

>741349724
>741349757
>immediately attack someone for being 100% right

>>741349757
you're a fucking negative iq spackle eating roblox player shut your fucking thirdie piehole you shit stinking gorilla nigger

>>741347756
wasn't it bethesda pushing for paid mods?
after all valve listened that it was not something the community wanted to pay for
but bethesda greedily didn't care

>>741349774
yes it is
in english its called Possession of stolen goods
which cannot really apply since its copyright infringement

Gabe Newell is a scammer and belongs in federal prison for fraud.

Valve screwed over the Artifact fanbase by cancelling the Artifact 2.0 beta without even allowing users to invite friends like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.

It's true
YOU have the power to change how the market works by decided what you want to spend money on. If you want to spend money on mods, then people will make paid mods. If you decide you don't want to buy paid mods, then nobody will make paid mods.
This simple interaction is how capitalism works. It's what makes capitalism so great. The consumer has all the power here. If you like something, and you want more of it to be made, then you spend money on it. If you don't like something, and you want less of it to be made, then you don't spend money on it.
People, for some ungodly reason, cannot comprehend this, and will continue to spend money on shit they don't like, causing the markets to continue producing shit they don't like. Kinda like a toilet bowl shit spiral feedback loop

>>741350072
based

>>741350172
>YOU have the power to change how the market works by decided what you want to spend money on
Can you change the RAM prices?

>>741350524
yes
simply wait for openai to completely shit their pants when their ipo is out and altman has to sell his bussy on the street

>>741350524
Yes. All the consumer has to do is stop investing in corporations that are buying up all the RAM.
Unfortunately, the single most damning problem with capitalism is that the consumer is fucking retarded.

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>>741347756
I didn't give a shit what Gabe Newell did with his Steam money before you started whining nonstop about it, and I still don't give a shit now that you are.

All I care about is if Steam works well and I get the games I want cheaply. That is all that matters. All this bullshit is just frivolous gossip. You're like a bunch of women.

>>741347756
>now every major mod is on patreon or donation funded

He was right.

>>741347817
fpbp

>>741347756
he is like machiavelli, voicing the obvious but is a bad guy for speaking it outloud

>>741347756
>all good mods, fan-art, cosplayers, whores and 3D animation porn is paywalled
>Bethesda creation club did so well they are still making trailers for community content
>current shit on steam workshop is all slop and low quality shit
he was 200% right

>>741349389
thats why there are so much showelware games now and so little quality mods

>>741347756
>Timmy's shillbots has to dig up decade old stuff
Embarassing.

Here come the steamy weenies to defend their DRM platform of choice.

>>741350653
>>741350686
retards, these companies are playing with more money than the entire customer base can afford to have, meaning that corporations exchanging money is more profitable to them than making anything for the cattle at this point, and thats gonna be a real fucking problem very soon when everything will stop being produced for the average person

>>741348040
>>741348220
>>741351263
>>741351424
samefag

its not just money. as usual the answer is both but both extremists chip at each other to say "no its my thing"

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>>741347756
The fact that Steam went back on this so hard and so quickly after community backlash is the reason I developed some small amount of respect for Steam/Gabe. Most companies would stick to their guns and try to force those changes, especially in the position Steam was in. But instead they backed down.

>>741351225
Sadly, also this to an extent

>>741348028
They did for 24 hours before it broke down since older mods became paid overnight
>>741349389
I agree, if Gaben made it where past mods couldn't become paid and used it with a brand new game, then it would be considered better.

>>741347756
That guy is wrong though, or at least incomplete: The community didn’t steer it, the modders did. You got a bunch of bullshit low quality body mods, for example, and it took forever to get even a smattering of the gameplay mods those games so desperately need.

I suppose in the end it’s about whether you prefer mercantilism or capitalism, in the sense that mercantilism effectively involved blindly providing products you had a good vibe about whereas almost everything with a budget today is designed according to perceived market conditions.

The whole experiment failed anyway, there’s been less modding than ever since the Creation Club took off, though some of that probably has to do with how accessible indie publishing is now.

>>741348014
sperg doesnt understand the tone of different words, he always has to maximize like a perpetual teen

LEAVE DADDY GABE ALONE

>>741352091
say nigger or go back

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>Another Gaben seethe thread
10th one this week

>>741347756
No more greedy than you, timmy. In fact, one would say orders of magnitude less greedy

>>741347756
>modders
>good will
there's always a catch tho

>>741348132
Everyone advised Gabe against steam because of the massive negative feedback they were receiving for it

>>741352301
gaben makes them himself when he's bored

Early on steam was annoying dogshit and more negative than positive but they turned it around

>>741352542
id wish hed release hl3

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>>741347756
Leave. The poor trillionaire. Alone.

>>741349389
Not every single hobby needs to become ultra-monetized. Modding is only so healthy right now precisely because it's free. Once every cunt is charging money for their mods, people are just going to stop modding.
I have like 200 mods on Skyrim. If every single one of them was a dollar, that becomes an absurd expense instantly. If half of them are 5 dollars, you've instantly taken a cheap, accessible hobby and turned it into a ghost town nightmare for whales.
I agree that modders deserve compensation in theory for doing good work, but paid mods kill the ecosystem. Modding does not fucking WORK AS A CONCEPT if they all cost money. You're not just arguing in favor of wasting your own money, but you're arguing in favor of strangling the goose because you want to squeeze out more eggs. It's myopic greed. Not to mention, who deserves the money? Modders. Steam and Bethesda do not deserve a cut.
Right now we already have a fair system that works and everyone agrees with: Donations. Is this perfect? No, but it's functional, unlike your anti-consumer BS.

>>741355223
>Steam and Bethesda do not deserve a cut.
Fuck off, you parasite. Go make your own fucking game instead of leeching off the hard work of other people.

>>741355653
The fact that you can't comprehend the irony of your own statements is shocking.
You're one stupid bastard, huh?

>>741355223
>Modding is only so healthy right now precisely because it's free.
Then how come GAMES are still being made for free when most people charge for them? Lots of passion projects exist.
>anti-consumer BS
retarded take
it could have meant an option to pay the modder for his work and Steam for hosting it + having the mod one click away from the game
nobody said the modder couldn't make it available for free either ON or OFF Steam

>>741347756
>mods
That's for faggots anyway

>>741356124
>"If an exception exists, then you're wrong."
You're the retard, mate. Games can be made for free... but they're usually not. It's an exception that proves the rule. There isn't a thriving ecosystem for free games anyway, you want modding to look like this too, huh, dipshit?
I'm sure that in an atmosphere of hyper monetization there would be some free mods, but it would become abnormal for mods to be free, and the ones that were free would be of notably lesser quality.
Not to mention, games and mods aren't actually comparable unless you're a fucking fool, one is obviously hundreds if not thousands of orders of magnitudes more complex than the other. It's like comparing the bumper sticker industry to car manufacturing. Not even remotely comparable.
As for the rest of your post, you're literally just spitballing hypotheticals to protect corporations. Yeah, it COULD have worked that way. It wouldn't have, though, and you're stupid for thinking it would.

The amount of posters who clearly don't know what OP was even about, weren't around for it and don't know how it ended is absolutely baffling, even more baffling that they think they're allowed to argue about it. It's all just people pretending to have discussions with random words.

>>741356930
>thread clearly knows it was Gaben talking about paid mods
>thread talks about paid mods and bethesda
>"uhhh retards!! you know what you are talking about!!
kys you stupid mouthbreather spic

>>741347756
I never got the outrage against monetization of mods
>Hey, little timmy made a cool mod, maybe he should be financially compensated for his hard work, and that money might be incentive enough to continue working on his mods!
>NOOOOOOOO GABEN IS A SCUMBAG, NO MONEY FOR MOD CREATORS, IT'S CAPITALISM!

>>741358028
usual redditard moment "le power to le people, it's not your mod it's our mod"

>>741358028
They already receive compensation in the form of donations, there's no need to make this any more shit than it has to be

>>741347756
Yeah he was a retard for that and people rightly shat on him and Todd for being greedy niggers, but paid mods failed to go anywhere after that.
The most you'll see is the occasional faggot paywalling his stuff behind patreon, but I've never seen it be a mod of substantial use/improvement.

>>741358028
>>741358221
weren't around for the absolute shitshow award

I'm not gonna stop using steam, if that is OP's argument.

>>741356930
>>741358434
>retarded niggerfaggot desperate to prove he's an oldfag for remembering an old reddit thread
kinda pathetic desu it's not that complicated

>>741358754
>literally doesn't know the context surrounding it
You're painfully retarded.

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>>741352301
Why are cultists like this? Did lack of religion make people now worship corporations?

>>741347756
I agree with Gabe in the sense that by work, he means real work with an actual timeframe for release. With money comes actual expectations, with free you get a decades of autistic drama and no progress. For example Morroblivion, sorry I mean Skyblivion, sorry I mean Skywind. So on and so forth. None of this is applicable to gooners though for they are driven by a carnal desire and will do it regardless of money.

>>741347756
>years late mods are behind patreon paywalls

>>741359093
This but for gachaslop

Funny thing steam had paid mods since the start

Suddenly counter strike cost money despite being a free mod?

>>741359093
>BE MAD BECAUSE I SAID SO AAAAAA LOOK AT THIS AND GET MAD AAAAA
>I'm not mad, I don't care
>Wow what a simp, if you love Gabe so much why don't you marry him? (loud kiss sounds)
Jesus, it's like we're in the god damned 5th grade...

>>741347756
he's 100% right

>>741359520
>bro im not mad and dont care even though i entered the thread to post my Gaben reddit fanboy image to defend him
Yeah bro you dont care, keep posting 50 times to show you dont care lol

>>741359792
Meanwhile, you make these threads close to 10 times a day every day. But you're not mad about that VAC ban you got in 2023.

>>741359418
>Suddenly counter strike cost money despite being a free mod?
You have brain damage. The mod version is still free.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/counter-strike/downloads/counter-strike-13

>>741359792
That was my first post itt. This'll be my last. Enjoy your petulant little crusade against steam/gabe, I just wanted to point out that you're a weird motherfucker.

>>741359851
Now you're having a schizo episode lmao, just talking about some random shit no one did

Reminder fatso will die of fat while sinking his boats for maximum enviroinmental damage and Steam and all the accounts (and money spent) will vanish overnight.

>>741360234
Nah its more weird you protect a billionaire that gets slight criticism

>>741360327
>lmao
>mentions a communist dictator out of nowhere

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just make a better storefront, tim
just don't patent troll, rothschild

>>741360653
A cultist always cries about their devil when you criticize their God

>>741347756
>Lootboxes
>Matchmaking
>Making popular mods paid
>Forcing Steam in the first place
>Allowing third parties to have their own DRM on top of Steam
>Has bent the knee to censorship several times in the past even before the credit card shit
Steam and Gabe are far from perfect for sure. But for any place where you would actually buy games at all they are by far the best option. I am literally stop spending any money on games when Steam goes to shit (as everything will eventually) which will probably happen soon after GabeN retires or dies.

>>741361838
cry all you want but Steam saved PC gaming

>>741361936
I do not deny that. I meant to imply that out of everything gaming related that's involves actually buying and playing things through the proper channels meaning the way you are suppose to legally acquire and play games, Steam is the last viable option. When Steam goes to shit I am literally not going to pay for games anymore and will live on my backlog and emulators for older games and maybe sometimes pirate a new game that seems good if possible. But until any new thing worth support manifests (which will most likely be never) I am not spending money on anything vidya related for the rest of my life.

>>741361936
No he didn't, he just made it easier for retards like yourself to play
I thought you guys liked gatekeeping but are ok with gabe allowing the gates to be opened to tech illiterate thirdies

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>>741362292
Cool? It's your money, do what you want. You are just crying about fucking nothing if you already had a solution to your woes.

>>741362535
you had to be there

>>741347756
he's right THOUGH

>>741358404
>but paid mods failed to go anywhere after that
creations, formerly known as creation club, exist

>>741362684
I was playing in the 90s and still have PC discs

>>741347756
>"money is how community steers work"
>he made a stupid move with paid mods
>community was going to move their money elsewhere
>it steered him to course correct
There was literally nothing wrong about that statement.

>>741362546
I thought this thread was literally for complaining about how gaming sucks.

>>741362856
>creations, formerly known as creation club, exist
And is that the dominant way to mod your bethesda games? I wouldn't actually know since I don't play their games, but I doubt it. I know gaben pretends it never happened and PC modding goes on like how I said.

>>741347756
>caring what a redditor subhuman thinks

>>741363276
you said paid mods didn't go anywhere but this is not the case since they do exist in a different form
so it's not relevant how dominant it is
>I wouldn't actually know since I don't play their games
ah

>poors crying about Valve games
>I don't play Valve games, but I like the convenient and reliable store
>I should stop using the store because of some dumb shit with Valve games

>>741362906
>>741362856
>>741359591
No, he was 100% wrong. The moment you introduce money and profit to a hobby people do for fun they are no longer a community. They become competitors. Money doesn't steer community, it destroys the community. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to help any other person if that person profits financially from it and you don't. Only way to keep it a friendly cooperation is by making sure absolutely no one can profit from it.

>>741363580
They will always tell you to stop using Steam but rarely say what you should use instead

the only good mods are ones done as hobby projects by actual players

>>741363708
Or they suggest GOG, which doesn't have a game made since Nixon.

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>>741363580
A reliable store doesn't give you malware, Nintendo/sony/Microsoft stores are more reliable

>>741363276
I only know the creation club in practice led to questionable quality mods being sold for money. It'd be tolerable if it were free and like normal mods but the need to pay money makes it a fucking scam, and Bethesda obviously sucks at curating or QC.
You can't deny though, it really sounded like a good idea on paper, that is why Valve gave it a try. They quickly realized everyone hated it and it would lead to degenerate behavior so they stopped.
Bethesda eventually resurrecting that godawful corpse is their problem, not Valve's.

>>741363469
>so it's not relevant how dominant it is
It's entirely my point that paid mods have not become the norm. No one is obstructed by them because the vast majority never paywalls their mods.
>ah
So, are you going to engage in a conversation or just dip out after misinterpreting my post?
Go ahead and inform me whether people pay for the majority of their skyrim and fallout mods. I don't think they do.

>>741363641
>Only way to keep it a friendly cooperation is by making sure absolutely no one can profit from it
Exactly. The community steered Steam's work by making sure they would make no profit from attempting to introduce paid mods.

>be communist modder tranny (all of them)
>charge for your mods despite never doing so before
>"its not m-my fault btw, it steam's f-fault that I'm willingly charging for my mods! capitalism sucks so much bro"
why are commietrannies so dishonest?

>>741360776
indeed timmycels are really annoying

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>>741348380
Just make your platform better Timmy.

>>741363869
what you're saying is completely irrelevant to what paid mods was about, it was bethesda wanting to monetize modding in some way and they eventually succeeded
some faggot mod makers putting their shit behind paywalls like patreon is irrelevant and has nothing to do with this
and again it doesn't matter how many or how few people pay for mods, what matters is that bethesda did make their own paid mods scheme in the end

>>741363812
>You can't deny though, it really sounded like a good idea on paper
I will deny it and I don't know why you think this. It might make sense to monetize everything to an out of touch suit, but the reaction paid mods got was obvious to anyone with a brain.
Corporations should not meddle in community activities.

>>741363806
I never got malware, but I don't touch stuff that smells Chinese (like your mom).

it looks like gabe is based
you seem to really hate the only rich guy that isnt trying to kill us

>>741364351
I am not disagreeing, it is a shitty idea.
Think about it this way though: from the company's perspective, modders are basically doing work for free and only sometimes gets a pittance by the grace of someone's whimsy. It doesn't immediately sound like a bad idea to put forth a system that compensates modders more consistently.
Don't misunderstand, this is a flawed path of logic that fails to understand why modders do what they do. Just, when some dumbass wants to tout that idea, you can at least comprehend how they rationalize it.

>>741348014
>>741352275
post badge or stop posting

>>741364445
That doesn't change the fact their store sucks for allowing it

>>741347756
>Valve still isn't a publicly traded company
Wow real greedy CEO this one, we better watch out!

>>741365150
They don't allow it. They miss it. They literally contacted the FBI for help about it.

>>741364349
You completely miss the point of my initial post. When I say "paid mods" I'm talking about any and all mods regardless of the platform. Gabe and Todd were trying to sacrifice something done for free for decades so they could profit off it on their own platforms and trying to set a precedent for it. Something like that would not stay contained on a particular platform if it was successful.
People reacted negatively to their scheme and paid mods never became the norm, ergo, it didn't go anywhere.
>what you're saying is irrelevant because bethesda made a platform for paid mods and some people use it
Good for them I guess.

>>741365274
K, so valve didn't let it happen, but bethesda did. Go bitch to them instead of valve, you cunt.

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>>741365408
I have no idea why you even bother to reply. Have a (you). It's free, just like my mods.

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>>741365553
>uses mods
>has a female reaction pic

>>741365194
It happened multiple times, there is no vetting for what goes on their store. If you dont vet what you sell then they allowed it. There aren't malware games on Nintendo or sony stores

>>741365274
no, it wasn't about gabe and todd trying to destroy modding or modding culture and putting all of it behind paywalls, it was bethesda trying to monetize modding for their games and valve helped them so they could get in on it and get a share of that
it did go somewhere because creations exist, it was never about paywalling all of modding, it doesn't matter that it's not the norm, your point makes no sense
you already admitted you don't know what you're talking about so go ahead and stop talking

>>741365758
>There aren't games on Nintendo or sony stores
True.

>>741365867
>i cant make a retort so yet me make a snarky meme response

>>741365758
It certainly is easier to vet 10 games a year compared to 10000.
Even then, it's not 100%. Some absolute abominations get approved and a few very special ones can fucking blow up your console on the hardware level.

>>741365997
Nintendo and Sony stores have a high barrier of entry which basically cuts out a huge chunk of the indie market. Steam gives you the ability to publish for a $100 deposit and a cut of the sales. Nobody else offers that kind of service and doesn't face the same issues of shit showing up in games. Malware isn't always a blinking red "U HAV BEN HAXED," and you can't expect Valve to catch it all. The solution is to not buy dubious shit, just like in the real world where you're less likely to get mugged in neighborhoods with streets named after trees than ones with streets named after civil rights leaders.

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this explains why they're seething extra hard today

>>741365785
>it doesn't matter that it's not the norm
I have explained to you that this was my sole point from the start, so it does matter. Gabe was a retard for pushing it and so was Todd. The vast majority of mods remain free and that's all I care about. I doubt It's even the majority for bethesda mods as no one I know that is into them and mods their games ever mentioned Creations or the creation club.
So I hope Todd enjoys the pennies he gets from that endeavor I guess.

>>741366596
I might road trip to visit him.
t. Georgia boy

>>741347756

He was always Scrooge McGabe from the start. The last time he had a shred of soul was back when L4D2 launched.

After that it was all down hill and everyone just lapped it up here.

>>741366596
Time really flies. He's got the baggy old people hands now.

>>741366617
yes and your point makes no sense and is irrelevant to what the whole paid mods fiasco with bethesda and valve was about, as i've explained already, so shut up

>>741366931
It makes perfect sense. You're just an argumentative retard clinging to a poor technicality because Toddy boy doubled down on his creation club.
>so shut up
Holy shit keep seething. Have a final (you).

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>>741366596
New Epstein dropped, whats he hiding

your moronic point is irrelevant you retarded cunt, what don't you understand
fucking kill yourself already

>>741348028
>They never did payed mods
They did, though. That was the point here. If you're arguing that they cancelled paid modding so it's like it never existed, Gabe Newell stated publicly that they only backed down because the outcry was so great that they'd become targets, causing them tens of thousands of dollars in damages through their faxes and phones being targeted.
You will note: you can no longer acquire phone support nor a fax number. They outsourced all support to avoid this happening again. After dropping paid modding due to community outcry, they sought avenues to prevent the community from reaching them in the same way.

>>741347756
There was good intentions behind the paid section for steam mods. But it doesn't work in reality, it would have also created a massive headache for steamsuppot if it stayed around.
Imagin paying $10 for a mod that was abandoned years ago and long since stopped working.

>>741347756
>incentivise game developers to make parts of their game broken so they can make money from other people selling mods to fix it.
SkyUI being a paid mod on this was one of the biggest fuck yous ever.

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>>741367416
What is it with the super rich and their villain-like architecture? Tunnels to the sea, silos and huge underground bunkers...
I couldn't come up with a reason to get any of that shit if I was that rich.

>>741368329
Reclusiveness. When you get even mildly rich, leeches start showing up. It's hard to get close to people because someone almost certainly wants to bleed you dry. Gabe's tunnel allows him to drive out to his dock and go out to his boats.

>>741366596
Seattle is so fucked, lol.
There's been such a mass exodus of taxable wealth that I genuinely believe the city is looking at a Detroit-tier collapse in the near future. Taxable rich people and their corporate jobs was the cornerstone of the city, and they're all gone now.
Who else is the socialist government going to tax? The fent addicts?

>>741370035
>If you don't subsidize my monopoly, I'm evading your taxes.
-Gabe Newell

And people claim he's an honest businessman.

>>741370823
Yeah, your impotent seething is going to fix your budget problems lmao.

>>741370823
Is moving from a doomed coast to the only decent part of the country unethical now?

>>741370035
I'm surprised Seattle had people for so long to be honest.
When I saw footage of addicts trying to sell people heroin and fent to fuel their own addiction and cops doing nothing a few years back I already thought it was fucked and it wasn't even in like a bad neighbourhood.

>>741347756
Greed is evil, it motivates some of the most disgusting actions in human society. But right now it's being upheld as a virtue in capitalism, it's horrible.

>>741347756
this made gabe quit talking to us and now all he does is lounge on his super-yacht

>>741372551
Capitalism works because money is a legitimate motivator to get anything done.
Do work -> get paid -> buy amenities for a nice life.
The problem with it is that greed is completely unchecked. Overambitious earners can and will scheme for more money to add to their hoard, more money than they know what to do with, which means there's less money circulating in populations with higher poverty.
Throw in IP laws and copyright shenanigans and it's become an esoteric gong-show where AI crypto bros try to drum up ponzi schemes for a quick and easy buck. And then on a larger scale, corporations start meddling with properties to try and win the market of "appeals to everybody (especially children)" alongside in-game stores to gauge more money from witless beings, homogenizing large and nuanced properties into easy-to-digest slop.
People are inherently flawed and no system will ever be perfect because of that.

>>741347756
Paid Mods was too big brained of an idea and the normalfags rejected it.
See the problem is, they charged $5-10 for weapon skins or costumes. This is why it failed.
It should've been $15-20 for basically entire expansion mod levels of content.
This would've promoted the creators to make good content and it would of meant more high quality mods due to the money incentive.
Lets be honest, no one donates to good modders.
There are really good mods out there that are free and thats fine. But imagine the quality of mods the past 10 years if there were premium paid modding.
Paid modding would've encouraged other games that aren't Skyrim or Fallout to have modding tools and content as well.
Gaben just came across as obtuse in his brief comment, the downvotes rained on him and it convinced him to scrap the entire concept/idea.

>>741348014
nigger is an insult, nigga is equivalent to 'dude' or 'bro'
you'd know this if you weren't autistic, nigger

Money is how the cojewnity steers work

>>741347756
>Gaben: I disagree with you
>Redditor: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>741349389
yes, but only through donations because the whole scene becomes a shitshow otherwise