*does nothing**dies*
It's like Star Wars, she became far more useful as part of the life stream than she could have been alive.
>>741352986apathy is death
>>741352986Once Aerith dies, which character do you use as a white mage?
>>741352986She's not dead, Zack will save her and the Cetra raceIf you know what I mean
>>741352986
>>741352986Whatever man, I genuinely do not believe anyone can honestly care about this shitfest of a story.
>>741357000The story is more emotional and cool than the slop you like
>>741357208I like the original story not this juvenile incompetent garbage the remake series made out of it. Fucking faggot.
>>741357932>not this juvenile incompetent garbageremake is more mature though. Its not so black and white like the OG.
Do you think Tifa is one of those mean bitches that acts all friendly and gets along with her girlfriends in person, but calls her a whore slut and wishes she'd die behind her back?
>>741352986>misses the entire plot by not paying attention>makes thread making false claims about the plot
>>741353683Zackwank ruined FF7
>>741358298No because she's a country girl who had a loving father in her developmental years. Not a city slut with daddy issues which would do what you described.
>>741358298You're confusing Tifa with Scarlet
>summons holy>its fucking useless
>>741358298she's the public toilet of sector 7
>>741352986Tifa is the best girl anyways, post more tifa
>>741353640Either I spec my blue mage Cait Sith into blue/white or I make Red XIII red/white. The fact that there's no character that esthetically fills in the white mage role as well as aerith is a glaring flaw. I guess they really wanted her loss to have permanence and feel consequential.
>>741358102What, you're doing free marketing for this pile of dogshit? Fucks sake man that's even more pathetic than just shitposting for the sake of it. And no, it's not. It's juvenile, cliched, childish, unserious, bloated and utterly irritating on every step of the way. One of the few games that were an actual legit waste of time in the worst way.
>>741360254>you're doing free marketingOh shut up you melodramatic faggot. Go play Exp33 and dwell on mediocre MERDE writing
>Her speech in the temple after everyone went through their depression quest>Cloud just brushes her offFunniest part of the remake, she was coping hardcore and he was having none of it.
>>741352986this kills the tifafag
>>741358298Real Tifa would never do that. NuTifa is already that, because she lied to Cloud during her date, that Aerith was still in love with Zack, to undermine her as competition.
>>741353683Zack will guide Cloud’s cock into Aerith’s vagina!? What a bro
Reminder Aerith will be in the lifestream sequence, it’s actually over for Tifafags
>>741352986Sephiroth was that scared of her. And she stopped him even when dead, he was right.
>>741358298She's one of those slutty girls that has a group of male friends she's alone with all the time, that Cloud is excluded from. Play the game.
>>741363131This was obvious to anyone with a brain
>>741352986What jobs is Aerith getting?
>>741362728Aerith also lied to Cloud on her date
>>741363131Zack will be there with Cloud for the Nibelheim and aftermath portion.For Tifa I'm guessing his childhood? Will she even be there? What was the point of giving her the bridge memory in Rebirth?For Aerith, I don't know which part, maybe she'll get the lonely childhood portion.
>>741353683He will, by reuniting her with Cloud. This is why I love Zack.
>>741363131this could just means he learns they both died
>>741353640In the OG I use Cloud Vincent Barret
>>741365552I think it makes more sense if they are involved, Zack seeing the Nibelheim flashback with Cloud makes way more sense than Tifa there.
>>741352986Do people really play this game for romance nonsense ?
She literally helps holy with destroying meteor at the end of the game. It's implied her spirit was in the lifestream and helped stop it or something.
>>741365541She did reunite with Cloud, but then he chose to leave her behind in the ending of Rebirth
>>741352986she's just like you, then
>>741365805That's coping Cloud, he's not mentally stable. In his mind he thinks he'll defeat Sephiroth and Aerith will be waiting for him in the flower field to welcome him with loving arms.
>>741365698Well, Cloud had a tragic romance with Aerith in the OG, but I don't think people played it for that, since word spread that she died, they played it because it's a great game, the romance thing just added to the tragedy of the story.Tifa shippers 100% see the game as a dating sim though, probably to "date" Tifa through Cloud or vice versa.
>>741365895And he thought that he blocked Sephiroth's sword
>>741366073He did, in one timeline.
>>741365895He’s not totally hallucinating. Tifa sees the alternate universe where Aerith is alive for a split second as well when she’s running to the alter
>>741352986>does nothingretard
>>741363131We've been knew
So will the game director stay true to the ogs ending by making it slightly ambiguous about humanitys fate ? I really loved the ending. I hope he doesnt ruin it by showing cities still intact
>>741353683>muh remake timelinekys
>>741366420Compilation is canon and already poo pooed on that so no
>>741353640Literally anyone because 7 had materia and not classes/jobs
>>741366420I love the OG ending, but I feel it's supposed to be a prequel ending to remake series. They seem to be going down a more hopeful route this time.
>>741366420They're chasing a best-possible ending, up to and including Sapphire Weapon tanking the cannon blast that killed it in the original
>>741352986>does nothingShe stole my heart
>>741366420>humanitys fate bro, you can literally hear children laughing at the Red scene, which literally happens 500 years after the events of the ending. Humanity was saved thanks to Aerith.
>>741366889t. cloud
>>741367046That laughter is from the lifestream, pea-brained anon
How will Cloud/Tifa shippers handle it when Aerith ends up living and Tifa doesn’t win Cloud automatically anymore?
>>741360318How about you just kill yourself and spare the rest of us the diarrhea that you call thoughts. The shit skins I have to share a board with...
>>741367046It's also sweeping over an abandoned playground, it doesn't overtly imply or say that humanity survived at all. Pointedly the ending doesn't really depict people
>>741367203Unironically I think given an Aerith survival they'd both be running a girl-train on him, they're friends with eachother and both like Cloud and don't appear to see one or the other as competition while being aware the other likes Cloud too
>>741367046yeah i get that but the part i liked iirc was they didnt show cities intact. So to me it seemed like they wona pyrhic victory where nearly everything was destroyed but a few people continued on
>>741365679yeah i agree on zack making more sense, but if hamaguchi is crying then it makes sense that he finds out that theyre both dead in this moment, well dead in his world. i dont see any other other reason hes crying unless he finds true cloud emerging that emotional idk
>>741366420It's going to end with the world getting reset to what clouds wants. everyone will get their happy endings. cloud will wake up at the train station. you'll see zack and aerith alive in the background casually together. then cloud will run off with kyrie holding hands up the stairs.
>>741367347He'll see their OG deaths. The Aerith he saved is still alive.
>>741367202>>741367216actual retards or just contrarians
>>741367542Yeah bro they survived so good that Advent Children had to be made just to show people they did survive
she inspired the other heroine to inspire the hero to take down sephiroth
>>741367203Tifa never automatically won him in the first place, they're not an established couple in AC despite what rabid shippers argue. If they do opt for keeping Aerith alive then it's just going to be a friendship end with a few more hints to Clerith because the default/main route pushes Aerith more than Tifa. It should be ambiguous enough for both sides to be content. That being said, it's hard to imagine a world in which Cloud picks Tifa over Aerith with pic-related dialogue, it's all quite romantic.
So there's a timeline where Aerith died? Fuck, it's going to break Cloud isn't it
>>741367750hes already schizo and broken cause of her death
>>741367347Lonely kid Cloud being the only one with no friends and feeling like a failure it's not emotional to you?
>>741367917enough to cry 40 times?? idk either hamaguchi is lying or hes an autist...well he loves video games enough to make them his career so the latter i guess
Are the FF7 remakes as culturally relevant to zoomers to the complete stranglehold the originals had?
>>741367418>kyrieWHO?
>>741367203They’re going to be mad no matter what happens. They’ve gaslighted themselves so much that the only way they’ll be happy is if Cloud turns to the camera and proclaims how much he loves Tifa and hates that homewrecking bitch Aerith and then pisses in her grave
>>741367203>>741367672>>741368063>Aerithhags already doing damage control
>>741368025No sheerly because FF7 itself is 20-30 years off from its relevant period, even if I'd probably put the Remake games as historically significant as the original was in terms of evolution of gameplay and presentation
>>741367750This time in northern crater Tifa will be like "I do trust Cloud, he was in the bridge with me, he's definitely real!" unlike her pisspoor performance in the OG, and Sephiroth will have to bring out the big guns to break him, aka the timeline where Aerith died.
>>741368059Exactly
>>741368162meanwhile clotifags are losing it over others being involved in LSS
>>741368342Ok, don't you need to spam the same pics over and over?
>>741368421What's the issue? Tifafags spam the same fanart.
not a shipfag but zack and aerith are both alive in other worlds right? which means aerith can finally talk to him after 4 years, even if she moved on completely, would cloud really be okay with possibly dating his bffs girl? and if alive can live in the end, why cant zack?
>>741368059Discount Yuffie
>>741368162Sir I am a Yuffiefag I just think Tifafags are hilarious
>>741352986How come Cloud can't just date all 3 girls in the final remake part?
>>741368059She's a new merc, a new merc in town. She was originally written for FF7 novel based after the game but was introduced in Remake and Rebirth. She's a thief and her grandma is a thief too and she's a not-Yuffie. In Rebirth she poses as merc riding Cloud's coat tail and Cloud and the party has to bail her out from a job she accepted but didnt do. In side quest in Costa Del Sol she and her grandma swindle Costa Del Sol's corrupt mayor
>>741368750Aeris is dead
Kitase fucking promised me a Cloud and Aerith spinoff, he owes it to them.
>>741368671>Hiding behind Yuffie again LMAO
>>741367347Why would Hamaguchi be crying from sadness when he is directing the game
>>741353640All my characters become a white mage, depending on how I'm getting my ass kicked, I use that character's turn to heal
Ngl it's going to feel weird if Aerith flirts back with Zack
>>741369023Aerith giving Zack's memory a "no way fag, but it's nice talking to you again" in the Lifestream is the funniest shit
>>741353640>>741368994You are bound to have at least one Restore materia that's given after the first reactor, you might have bought extra one from a shop and you can have 3 Enemy Skill materias with White Wind and W-Item lets you duplicate Megalixirs to infinity.
>makes my penis extremely hardShe definitely has done something!
Say what you want, but Tifafag copes are funny as hell.
>>741369023Probably because it would make no sense
I love asian women so much
>>741366398So under the highwind...
>>741365895What an epic belief. If he truly believes that then he wouldn't fear death
>>741358717So the point of her existing is to job at the end requiring the planet itself to intervene?
>>741352986*dies*But DOES she?*dun dun duuun*yesnomaybebothWho the fuck cares
>>741363131Do Aerithfags automatically block Zack
>>741369795They’re probably just moving the Zack flashback to the lifestream. It doesn’t matter because anything that distracts from muh Tifa will enrage Tifafags
>>741363131Zack will be there with Cloud and will see Cloud's memories with Aerith
>>741368059The hottest babe in the game.
you whiners stopped us from getting the true ending where she liveswhat do you have to say for yourselves
>>741369781Aerith is the one leading the Life Stream to block Meteor. Marlene in Kalm utters: "Flower lady" as she opens the window and sees Meteor and Holy clash. Then from the sea Life Stream rises and proceeds to envelope the impact with Marlene saying "It's coming". In Remake Aerith first met Marlene who was scared and panicking but Aerith used cetra mind powers to calm Marlene down and it seemed Marlene was given cognition of how OG went and Aerith's role in it.
>>741369716He would fear death because he wouldn't be able to pick up Aerith in the flower field if he died.
>>741370169Would Jesus be as big of an icon if he didn't die for people?
>>741370169That's the ending we're getting thoughever, Hamaguchi told whiners to choke on it.
>>741353198Categorically untrue. She summons holy while alive, Rebirth shows her controlling the lifestream while alive. That's why they're bringing her back.
>>741369484Cutest duo
Am I the only one pissed off by square being paranoid about gooners attaching to Aerith and changing her dress and figure because of it? They're so out of touch.
>>741369604Already confirmed we're getting different characters
>>741371604We are going to choose the witness of cloud and tifa fucking?
>>741371678No, you'll get to choose who to spend the eve of the final battle with. And there will be an obvious good choice.
>>741371824>And there will be an obvious good choiceTifa?
....and stay dead hoe, with your faggot boyfriend zacki got my waifu Tifa
>>741372496the literal opposite of what Cloud would say
>>741352986*dies**still wins*Amazing
>>741373115Why didn’t Sephiroth listen?
Aerith Tifa shippers are the worst part of this fandom. They are obviously upset shippers throw shit at the other girl, but instead of confronting the shippers they are rat cowards pairing up the women together and hating men.I'm glad Aerith and Tifa's relationship is shit in the compilation, should have stayed that way in the remakes.
>>741374019>Aerith Tifa shippers are the worst part of this fandomwhat's wrong with a good scissoring?
>>741371197They're not going to bring her back, at least not permanently. If anything, she and Zack will come back, but it will be some Harry Potter's parents shit, where they show up in Cloud's Lifestream spirit journey, give him him a chance to say everything he has to say to them, give him a word of encouragement, and then say that they have to go back, because they have "work of their own" to do, as in purge the Lifestream of Sephiroth/Jenova's influence, while Cloud & Co. fight the physical form.
>>741374457No, the whole trilogy has been teasing her revival, Hamaguchi mentions multiple times he always tried to revive her, Kitase said he wants a happy ending this time. It's obviously happening.
>>741353640By being a godfather to her kids with Cloud
>>741374546Gonna need a source on that.
>>741352986>*saves the world*You forgot that last bit.
>>741352986Who?
>>741352986Not a sequel
>>741352986Definitely a sequel
Why is Sephiroth so gay
>>741359195Delicious Tifa.
>>741374457Aerith finna live and become Cloud's other wife along with Tifa.Harem self insert chads will win.
>>741377548He knows Cloud would never say no to Aerith, this is embarrassing
>>741352986If Tifa can confirm to Cloud he's real this time, will her death be the thing to break him?
>>741377548Realistically, if Sephiroth rewinded time to CC he could manipulate Cloud without imitating anyone else, kid was pretty starstruck.
>>741378259Tifa can’t really confirm it though? Sephiroth even in the OG says that Tifa may have had real memories of Cloud but the one she’s been traveling with is a fake clone
>>741378924In the OG we see her having doubts up to NC. In Rebirth her doubts evaporate after the bridge memory, she even tries to kiss Cloud even when he just tried to kill her. Would be pretty weird if she doesn't have confidence I'm his existence again.
>>741353640You've got two Enemy Skills and easy access to White Wind by that point, so nobody.
Aerith will be riding Cloud as the post credits surprise.
If Aerith is not saved, there's no point to the whispers and all that changing fate shit, just waste of space. Would make me very pissed.
>>741374686Why even bring this up in an interview?
>>741355302why do all japanese games make them over act with their bodies? are they retarded?
those are my wives ( who are on good terms ) that you are talking about
I don't get the ending discussion. Doesnt the original ending takes 100s of years after meteor struck so even tifa would be dead so what is the point of aeriths fateOr am I misremembering
The people denying Cloud saved Aerith just want to see him fail.
>>741381015Tifa looks like shit with Yuna's clothes, thank god square would never give her that outfit. If her fans are lucky they'll get Lulu in the inevitable crossover.
The Aerith date was pretty sad.
>>741371604>This means players might have different emotions as they get to the story endingHoly shit! Thanks for the hype update Audrey
I thought Aerith was dead at the end of Rebirth am I retarded?
>>741353640In terms of Magic Users, after Aerith is Caith Sith, Cloud and Yuffie. But Materia bonuses later on are more important than character base stat. You lose Aerith just before you start gaining the really good Materia. She is great early on but you won't need her on Disc 2.
Aerith use as some sort of Goddess in the compilation ruins her character. In the OG, when she died she died. She wasn't showing in flashbacks, as some form of spirit or anything like that. She was killed, gone, finished. Her death is probably one of the most realistic representations of Death in all media. When someone dies IRL, you are not able to talk with them again. You are never able to hear their voice again. Talk to them again.
>>741381910She literally saves the world even when she's dead
>>741381687It's Vincent, he's the Aerith lite.
She's as beautiful as an angel
>>741381686Cloud created a parallel universe where he saved her and she lived. She’s dead in the “main” universe
>>741381959She activated Holy just before she died. She like all living beings became one with the Lifestream. I'm being very specific when I say the Original FF7 because later compilation material deify her tremendously but if you only played the original you would know that in the game she is dead. You are never able to talk to her again because she is dead.
>>741382059Vincent as well but really by the end it doesn't matter which character you use as much as which Materia you have.
>>741382281She guides the lifestream EVEN though she's dead. She could have done it while alive, but even after being killed she appears at the end still saving everyone's ass.
>>741382281It’s heavily suggested that she’s the one who rallys the lifestream to help holy stop meteor which is why Marlene seems to sense her presence and you see her face at the end
>>741352986Aerith schizo, your response???
>>741353640My nigga Barret. Cait Sith is just too fun to just use as a white mage.
>>741365541>Can't inherit his movesetStill pisses me off. Should have been unlocked somehow once you've finished the game.
>>741382673>>741382745Aerith is with us, you can hear her in the laughter of every child, see her every time flower blooms. What I mean is that she is dead. One with the Lifestream. That means that while the actions she did before she died are felt, her as a person with hopes and dreams was killed when Sephiroth killed her. Thats what makes her death tragic because it was sudden and out of the blue. There was no obvious death flags that she was going to die other than the fact that she had access to her best weapon and limit break earlier than everyone else. By us killing Sephiroth we let the Magic she gave her life for do the work and heal the planet.
>>741383076Plus there is no way to bring Aerith back because she is fucking dead. Just like how IRL when someone you love dies you are not able to talk to them or revive them. They are gone, with only their memories of them keeping them alive in your heart.
>>741383246She's coming back definitely, and your seething will be hilarious.
>>741383246Did you people just shut your ears off when the game was explaining about the parallel universes or what
>>741383320What happens in the Remake Universe is of no consequence to the original work. The Remakes are meta narrative commentaries made decades after the original. Again I am being very specific about the Role of Aerith in the Original game not later games of the Compilation which change the nature of her character.
>>741383524Pararell Universes did not exist in the original. I'm being specific with referencing the original work. Revelations can have over 9000 versions of Aerith but when we talk about the original work that is irrelevant.
>>7413529867 years and she still dies, so much for defying destiny
>>741382248Correct, she's alive in Zack's timeline
>>741383076I don't wanna go there bro, but this is a game with mimic alien cells, bringing Aerith back to life when alternate timelines have been presented is not out of place.
>>741383246Her death already happened in the prequel. What's the point of doing it again, especially when we know it leaves Cloud hollow, it doesn't make sense.
>>741384223Once again I'm talking about the original game. What part of the original game do you sub 100 IQ retards don't seem to understand. Whatever happens in Revelations has no bearing with my analysis of the character of Aerith. In fact my previous thesis stated that later games in the Compilation, which includes the Remakes, changed the nature of the character. I feel like I'm dealing with bots here.
>>741384480Because I'm not talking about that you idiot. Are y'all LLMs?
>>741353640I put Restore/All on every party member by that point, just in case you need a sudden heal.
>>741384526>>741383703You didn’t say you were talking about the original game. Obviously bringing her back would have to be in the remake
Everyone expects her to come back, the plot twist will be that she dies regardless.>then what's the point of the remakes?To kill Sephiroth for good. No memories, no Kadaj, nothing.
>>741384705Read the original post below. See how I referenced the Original vs the Compilation? >>741381910>Aerith use as some sort of Goddess in the compilation ruins her character. In the OG, when she died she died. She wasn't showing in flashbacks, as some form of spirit or anything like that. She was killed, gone, finished. Her death is probably one of the most realistic representations of Death in all media. When someone dies IRL, you are not able to talk with them again. You are never able to hear their voice again. Talk to them again.
>>741384480> it leaves Cloud hollow,You could even say it made him foolish and blind to everything.
Fist weapons are kinda lame. You can barely see them. Tifa should wield massive gauntlets instead.
>>741365698The shipper schizos are just out of control here. The original had very light relationship stuff at best and you could have Barret on a date as part of it.The 'remake' sequels are just unhinged enough with time janny nonsense that people can cope and have shipping wars even if one of the two parties is literally fucking dead.
>>741365698No, in fact, the "love triangle" wasn't a core part of the OG plot, you can give three fucks about who's Cloud in love with and still have a great experience and understand what is going on. The shippers are just a bunch of losers (specially Clotis) who are projecting their sexual desires.
>>741384834She does appear in the OG saving everyone at the ending
>>741385775The shippers had decades to build Tifa and Aerith into their ideal waifus in their heads. Their characters didn't have THAT much depth in the original game given the relatively low amount of dialogue, but it didn't matter. People fill in the blanks on their own, and across the many years between the original FF7 and Remake, they had managed to sculpt these characters into their perfect goddesses in their minds.
The fact shippers think the lifestream sequence is 'Tifa's time to shine' or 'about Cloud and Tifa's love' tells me everything I need to know.You fuckers are not fans of the actual game, square debases the story catering to you lowlifes even a little bit.
>>741382220
I like looking at pictures of Aerith and fantasizing about marrying her.
>>741387412
blonde aerith was the best look yet. i didnt save it
When I read On the Way to a Smile, I couldn't help but cringe because Nojima turned Cloud and Tifa's relationship into like, a mom trying to take care of an autistic child. Like they don't really feel like lovers.
I used to get so angry when shippers were made fun of, but I'm starting to see why someone may have decided to do so.
>>741387590They were never meant to be lovers numbskull.
>>741387540blonde Aerith never happened, and brunette is better
Will square do it?
>>741374546Dude the devs already said they are not changing the core of the game and that it will have a definitive canon ending AND that it will lead to advent children.You losers are so obnoxious with your fanfics about AERITH WILL TOTALLY LIVE! even though she was killed off last game...
Someone explain to me why Shinra operatives ONLY wear armor on their shoulders. Infantrymen, SOLDIER, they all wear shoulderpads and literally no other armor.
>>741367418Fucking Anno is such a narcissistic coward and a loser for this terrible ending. Nothing but contrived character assassination, eleventh hour plot twists and condescending life lessons delivered in the most disingenuous way imaginable to the viewer.
>PC day 1>all those costume mods that people can port >week 1 DresscodeGod I can't wait
>>741388429That has already been disproven.
>>741388429The "will lead to Advent Children" is not true (even though the weird shippers saying "Aerith will live" is dumb as hell). The director pretty much said he doesn't believe they ever officially said that and not sure where it came from.
Kitase already said they OG ending is the fate they have to defeat, and that they want a happy ending. Hamaguchi said they incorporated Kitase's view into the ending. Can you all stop being delusional? Aerith is coming back.
>>741388529Traditionally, shoulders are the most frequent accident zone
>can you all stop being delusional, buy into my own delusionkekff7 shippers crack me up, especially since they're typically in their 40's
All shippers should be gassed. There isn't a single positive contribution any shipper has made to society
>>741388309Give a kiss scene to Aerith in the game where she will die? No, but you get a confession scene
How come square has been beating everyone's head with the fact Cloud's crush on Tifa was always about wanting to be cool and accepted, yet shippers don't see it and are expecting some romantic revelation in the lifestream sequence of all scenes?
>>741389954Wouldn't remaking the same scene from OG be romantic?
>>741388059
>>741380193Its because even when Square Enix tries their hardest to be western photorealism the director is a weeb, they make the models based on anime styled art and anime tropes and even when they try very, VERY hard to appeal to westoids, theyre still just making anime games with a coat of photorealism for the normalfags
>>741390116Actually looks better.I dont know what it is but Aerith in the remakes looks so ugly as photorealistic, gives me the ick, Tifa is kinda weird and creepy with her giant red eyes, Cloud has an uncanny baby face that makes him look like a little girl, and Yuffie is... ok I guess? I wish they went for actual anime style instead of this uncanny valley photorealism-stylized anime faces that look fucking awful
>Always wondered why Cloud only has one shoulderpad>Notice that the harness that he's wearing is a little different from the standard uniform. >Presumably, the harness is probably what the shoulderpads are attached to, but Cloud's right suspender is different from the left, meaning a shoulderpad can't attach to it.Really makes you wonder just what the fuck happened that forced Cloud to change out parts of his outfit. I can only assume that the original shoulderpads that Zack gave him fell into disrepair as well.Does anyone know how much time passed between Cloud's initial arrival in Midgar and the reactor mission at the beginning of the game?
Imagine if Cloud were a little girl. Wouldn't that be an improvement?
>>741390036No? The part concerning Tifa is about Cloud uncovering his crush and their lack of closeness, it was never romantic per se. It could get romantic with the high affection highwind scene, with all the 'you showed me in the lifestream' dialogue, but that was in retrospective. The fact the low affection dialogue doesn't mention it at all proves the 'romantic' aspect is complete interpretation. But retrilogy is worse, square has been hinting Cloud's crush since remake, but has put effort into recontextualizing it as an immature facet of his personality he needs to get over.
>>741390640He already looks faggy and like a tomboy. Just give him tits and hips and long hair and he would be a better character already.Also the romance feels so forced and boring I dont give a fuck about all of these uggos that are into him.
>>741390805The romance is just bait and like every final fantasy game it gets to nowhere and has no poiny or purpose.The only time I remember a protagonist really getting with a girl, marrying her and having kids in a final fantasy was Cecil from FF4.We need a FF4 remake with after years mixed in
>>741390983Ff4 is boring, a remake of 9 or 8 would be preferable.
>>741391216>FF4 is boringYoure judt a brain dead homosexual
>>741352986Cracker had it coming.
>>741358298No, but Aerith absolutely is. Just replay Chapter 5 of Remake and pay attention to her dialogue and behavior and you will know what I am saying is absolutely true.>>741358962Scarlet is up front and blunt with her cruelty and bitchiness.
>>741391447Honestly, the only thing I remember about Scarlet is that in the Remake, she gets horny looking at materia. Like that shit genuinely turns her own. Not even Yuffie's that bad.
>>741391447Wrong, Tifa is a terrible friend, she badmouths her dead "friend" because Cloud is not dicking her. Aerith tries to get them to get along.
Square enix tried to make Aerith extra thin to deter gooners, but that will never stop me.
I liked Cloud's relationship with Barret and Yuffie too. Honestly, his relationship with Yuffie surprised me. It's genuinely wholesome.
>>741384526Maybe the issue is you are talking about OG when the rest of us are talking about Remake. Go fuck off.
Was Jessie really that much of a go-getter in the original JP? In the English version, she seemed kinda shy.
>>741393079I can absolutely see Cloud seeing himself in Yuffie (overcompensatory kid regardless of elite station) and taking a big brother role to her as a result
>>741352986I finally decided to check out the final fantasy games and why does this one character dying resonate with so many people? I finished FF2 recently and half the party members you get are dead by the end of that game but I never see anyone shedding a tear for Josef and his orphaned daughter.
>>741396208Jessie barely had any personality at all in the original game because she only had a single-digit number of lines of dialogue
>>741352986Kek
>>741352986Aerith literally gets the lifestream to stop Meteor at the end of the game.
>>741396993Because old men like Josef or Tellah dying is different than your love interest dying
Best date?
>>741396993Josef is the series' second best death after Aerith's, not because of him and his daughter, but because the party, out of shame, lies to the village, that he committed suicide on the mountain. He will never be known as a hero, but as a wretched coward there and that reputation will follow his daughter and unrequited admirer.This particular episode is so controversial, that Squaresoft had to address and damage control it in FFIX. FFII's party is flawed in a very human way.
>>741363131I'm glad Cloud will have so much support, but they better make me and all player feel Cloud is the central damn character of the lifestream sequence. It's him reclaiming his goddamn identity.I'm already seeing people saying 'what if you get to control child Tifa and see everything from her pov' fuck right off, that's exactly what we don't need. I NEED them to make it clear Cloud can have feelings separate from the ones of the player, he deserves it.
>>741402038What? I visited the village multiple times and all the towns people are cheering him and talking about how brave he was after his death.
>>741382837This guy's art is so fucking disgusting
>>741400908tifa's
>>741402416he's wrong anyways, series' best death is galuf exceeding the limits of his own body to try and kill exdeath there and then, and is so burnt up in doing so that the party casting curaga and raise fails to do anything to him
>>741400908Red's little tail hearts and Barret teasing Cloud gets me every time.
>>741387412t.
>>741396993FFVII was the first JRPG for an entire generation, myself included. Before that, most of us were just playing shit like Donkey Kong Country and Street Fighter.
I'm not a fan of all the Zack glazing in the Compilation? Didn't they even make the Omnislash one of Zack's techniques in one of the novels? So fucking stupid. You can't let Cloud have just one thing to himself?Zack couldn't even do shit to Sephiroth.
>>741396208Her entire personality in OG was "has a crush on Cloud".
>>741404052>Girl has a thing for Cloud>She dies>Another girl has a thing for Cloud>She also diesWhy isn't Tifa dead? Or was she actually the mastermind all along, eliminating the competition?
For me, its Yuffie!
>>741389954cause the truth hurts. never 4get the one-stand line from ultimania
>>741403335Felt like a rehash of IV tbqh
>>741404026I know man, but it is what it is. Don't get me wrong, I like Zack, but I think they try to elevate him to ridiculous heights to get another superseller like Cloud and Sephiroth. It sorta worked with Tifa, so they want to recreate it. I don't think all this shit's worth it.
>>741405254The number of fakeout deaths in IV is insane.
>>741405748>Guy who got gunned down by three infantryman>Actually, he was a really strong and talented SOLDIER>In fact, there was another super strong SOLDIER called Genesis and Zack totally beat him up>Also, he was better than Cloud in every way>What? Why did he lose to Sephiroth then when Cloud beat him multiple times? >Look, don't think about it too hard. Zack was really the best of the best.
Last night I jerked off to Aerith.It was fun.
>>741396993Because of the sheer moral horror. It's not clear that the whole party isn't acting as an extension of Sephiroth's will. Seeking out Aeris after she left, precisely because of this. It's not even that she died so much as this tiger you're chasing turned out to be fucking Cthulhu.
>>741405830It was a popular card to play in sf&f at the time. They did a pretty good job of telegraphing whether the characters were coming back though.
>>741355302That's the worst pouting animation I've ever seen
>>741404449Pits and tummy
Even though both groups are shippers, why are their views of the story, but particularly of Cloud as a character so different?For Aerith shippers, there are some crazy ones, but generally I see them acknowledge that Cloud had a crush on Tifa, but understand his childhood is about wanting to be special as a coping mechanism for not fitting in. Sure, he likes Tifa because she's beautiful, but his crush on the popular girl is very much normal for a lonely kid. He does feel he failed to protect Tifa in the mountain, but he joins soldier for his wish to prove he can be more than what everyone sees, dreaming of being like his idol. He doesn't show his face in Nibelheim because he's extremely embarrassed he didn't fulfill his promise to Tifa, but also because he left the village that despised him to become someone and came back as the same nobody.For Tifa shippers, they genuinely believe everything about Cloud's character is about Tifa. He was lonely because he didn't have Tifa, he hated everyone because Tifa didn't like him, he wanted to be special for Tifa, he wants to be a soldier for Tifa, the lifestream sequence is his confession to Tifa, he constructed his life around Tifa, he's obsessed with Tifa but in a 'romantic' view, Tifa is the center of his existence unironically. It's such a disgusting view of Cloud's character, what causes this?
Post teen tifa
>>741352986Is being best girl nothing to you?
>>741405852Zack didn't have the power of FRIENDSHIP or a dead space Jew running interference for him.
>>741352986She saves the day by casting Holy after she's dead. If she didn't die for our sins then the Jewish Sephiroth would kill everyone.
>>741387412We know Cloud.
>>741406953Everyone in FFVII is Jewish except Sephiroth and Jenova.
>>741406953What? She casts holy before death.
>>741406953She cast Holy before dying, retard. Holy was kept in check by Sephy and released after hia death. She directed the lifestream after death.
>>741407008it doesn't activate until Meteor shows up though.
>>741407103It does? Sephiroth blocks it until Cloud defeats him. Which can be done without her death.
>>741406786mental illness
>>741352986I hope we don't get spoiled on Aerith's jobs before Revelation, I want it to be a surprise
>>741406953>>741407103I dunno if you guys remember but the Holy was active but it was cocooned with red bad mass. It's in the background when the party reached the bottom of the crater and you make teams for Bizarro Sephiroth and each team's leader gives a short speech. It's also in the background in the fight with Bizarro Sephiroth floating in front of it. So Sephiroth/Jenova was trying to suppress it
>>741408389She won't have access to FITS in the lifestream
>>741408782
>>741406786Sometimes it feels like Kato's influence is the bane of the developers' existence and they're constantly trying to undo it, it's pretty funny. The whole Cloud Tifa ship was built on the scenes of someone external to the development.
Throws 3 of them at you
Does Cloud still come to Aerith in AC? Or is that disrespectful to a dead person?
>>741386821Holy TAA ghosting, so bad it's giving her stripes
>>741352986Why is she hitting the Chubbyemu pose?
If square enix ever retcons the fact that Zack named Seventh Heaven I'll be fucking pissed, that's his moment.
>>741409572Would you still jerk off to your girlfriend that was murdered in front of you? Food for thought.Poor Cloud, his life is so fucked.
>>741409572I have, in fact, seen art of Cloud masturbating in Aerith's Church to her memory
>>741374457I can see this. It will be similar to Locke and Rachel
I want a Zack Aerith Angeal Genesis Cissnei party so bad in Revelation. Make it happen please square enix.
I feel like for there to be an actual happy ending the Cetra need to be saved. Either Aerith lives or she has a child that survives somehow. I think some of those Aerith/Tifa books they wrote allude to that
>>741406954This would be terrifying if someone did it in real life
>>741410536That's silly.
>>741410846That's peak man, shut up. It better happen or I'll riot and stop buying their games.
>>741410665The book implied she wanted to have kids.
>>741410918It's a ridiculous request.
>>741410536Zack, Aerith and Cissnei being together in a room feels like it would be very awkward for everyone involved.
>>741411130It's fucking peak. Any other setup will make the alternate party worthless and lame.
>>741411191Not really the issue. You're asking for them to add an entire ass side story featuring two three dead characters and Cissnei. It's absurd. You know very well they're not gonna do that. You may as well just decide now to never buy any of their games again since you're asking for the impossible.
>>741409983I have no words.
>>741411251We already know they'll make Zack and Aerith playable in an alternate party, Cloud will probably switch between parties when he's unconscious. Angeal already joined Zack in the EC lifestream quest. It's the perfect setup to reintroduce Genesis too. The hardest character to include would be Cissnei, but they just have to find her alternate world counterpart.
>>741411182Cissnei is used to Zack calling Aerith all the time. But Zack and Aerith are dead now.
>>741411182Aerith pov>my ex boyfriend and the girl he cheated on me withZack pov>my ex girlfriend and the girl I cheated on her withCissnei pov>the guy I had something going on with while he was in a relationship and his ex girlfriendIn all seriousness, they are too mature to care. Cissnei and Aerith got on great in Gongaga.
Not enough Aerith pics in this thread goddamit
>>741411458This is Cloud's game, anon, not Zack's. He has no connection to Angeal.
>>741411550>Cissnei and Aerith got on great in GongagaYeah, because Cloud was there
>>741411547You people get off on ignoring the game? They are literally alive in one timeline.
>>741409724
>>741411650Oh anon, I remember when I used to think like you. Good times.
>>741411282Oh hey I found it, the artist made this sfw version but they have a version with his dick out
>>741411669That's in the lifestream thus not real and Cissnei is not there she's in Gongaga
>>741411681>Yuna is Cloud and Aerith's daughter from another dimension that falls in love with a Zack stand-in>Rinoa is Zack and Aerith's daughter from another dimension that falls in love with a Cloud stand-inHoly shit
>>741360758They do kiss though.
Didn't she start the Holy ritual?Thought that was a big plot point, but it's been a long time
>>741411650They are obviously expanding it greatly and adding new plotlines, Hamaguchi already said Zack will be much more prevalent than in Rebirth, and that he can't spoil anything about Aerith.
>>741409758This is my favorite shitpost
>>741411782Square enix is a sick company
>>741411845Yes, we been through this. In Bizarro Sephiroth fight and in the scene before that the Holy Materia is glowing but is encased by the red matter and Sephiroth is keeping it in check. After you beat Sephiroth the Holy Materia releases the white blue energy flow and it heads to the impact site in Midgar. However Holy couldn't beat Meteor and it takes Aerith guiding the Life Stream to the impact site that finally beats the Meteor.You can for example watch the OG's ending in Youtube.
>>741411775Explain to us why Elmyra and Marlene are in the lifestream, go on.
>>741412000Nta but that's the ruined, failed world where Tifa, Barret and Red XIII died and Aerith is comatosed and Zack carries the comatosed Cloud to Midgar.
>>741412047So you admit it's another world
>>741411782Is this why they haven't done the crossovers yet
>>741412073It's failed state world with the scar in the sky. Same scar Cloud sees in the "real world" that others don't see.
>>741412047How is it any worse than, let's say, the world in AC.
>>741412000nta but lifestream can manifest the dreams and desires and not necessarily just soley 1-to-1 memories. like we can dream about other people, that probably means lifestream can have representations of other not-yet-dead people to your experienceIn remake, Tifa saw "Marlene" as one of the ghosts in the train graveyard, but she's obviously not dead. Lifestream be weird.
>>741412193You people are a bit of a joke
>>741412285how so? none of that is against what i said
>>741411782The developers keep wrapping up these three characters around each other, so I wouldn't be surprised if they saw it like this.
>>741412285will there be a turn zack off option like rebirth?
>>741412343You're talking to one of the crazy shippers, just ignore them.
>>741412135>Same scar Cloud sees in the "real world" that others don't see.The ending is not in the real world. The real world is where Cloud saved Aerith, while he got thrown into this one..
>>741412657Ok, Cloud
>>741412415Highly unlikely
>>741412343The director says they clearly conveyed the existence of other timelines. Any argument after that is cope.
Does everyone ignore the rainbow effect that happened when Cloud stopped Sephiroth and that signifies the creation of an alternate timeline?
>>741412715i'd like to ignore the zigger fanfiction
>>741408389Thaumaturge, Seamstress, Reaper, Monk.Source: It came to me in a dream.
>>741412782[Someday The Dream Will End from FFX playing muffled]The alt worlds will cease to exist for the real world to survive
>>741412796Doesn't seem you'll be able to
>>741411782Why is Aerith only birthing daughters? Is it a cetra thing?
>>741412753reread the text in that image. it says the idea of multiple timelines is conveyed, not that there is literally multiple timelines. the strange weird timing within the zack scenes we see (him appearing in Midgar with Cloud at the same time the OG cast is escaping Midgar make no sense, unless it's not supposed to make sense)much like the idea of aerith being alive is conveyed to Cloud and the audience at the end of rebirth>>741412480i'm getting that now, yeah
>>741412073Any possibility in which Zack survives and returns to Midgar five years later is one in which Angeal is dead. All the possibilities that Zack and Cloud appear to be able to transport to seem to branch off after Zack and Cloud escape from Hojo's mansion, meaning anyone that died prior to then is unlikely to return.
>>741412753>The director says they clearly conveyed the existence of other timelinesNo he didn't. He said it conveyed the idea of.Not they clearly conveyed the existence of
>>741412970Going by your semantics play of looking at what he didn't say, he didn't say there are no alternate timelines, and gave every indication there actually are.
>>741411663Are you saying they wouldn't like each other if Cloud wasn't there? That doesn't make sense.
>>741413040umkek, okay buddy
>>741413034
>>741413142You are, yes.
>>741413183Sure buddy. Don't complain when the game drops
>>741413198You're weird.I was only correcting you on what the image you, yourself, posted. Not talking about anything else in my post.
>>741413239I agree the statement has room for interpretation, but completely ignoring the obvious reading in favor of the convoluted one just seems desperate to me. Even though sqex could perfectly use the convoluted route.
>>741412715Zack/Aerith lifestream stuff should be good, I hope that means we can get Aerith gameplay in those sections (which might mean postgame combat missions with them for fun)
>>741381686She was already dead in the remake, first game.Players are too retarded to pick that up.
>>741413360But it's not convoluted, it's what he literally says. You're bringing in additional meaning that is not present which is more convoluted. Not saying it's wrong or right ultimately, but it's not present in that quote.For all the info we have now, a neutral reading makes more sense than one starting from a position of bias.
>>741412000Literal NPCs. Explain why Zack can be alive when fate is defeated 2 months after he dies.
Comatose Cloud and Aerith will obviously end up together the other timeline for a heartfelt ending.
>>741413504Sounds like complete coping shit. "Saving" Aerith in one timeline while main world Cloud is left unhappy would ruin the game.
They should add the generic SOLDIER Sword as a weak "challenge" option.
>>741413503>literal NPCsNot an explanation buddy.And he's alive because a world where he survives was created when the bullets didn't kill him.
>>741404026No it's octaslash he learnt from sephirothBut it's probably not canon. Zack's best limit is rush assault
I'm not sure if I should buy Revelation on release or wait to know if Aerith can really be saved. I don't wanna end up pissed after 150+ hrs of game.
>>741413563What is the meaning of the SOLDIER acronym again?
>>741404026>I'm not a fan of all the Zack glazing in the CompilationThat's not that uncommon a position, I share it myself. He's weirdly written like a fanfiction character would be but he's actually official.But because he's so earnest as wanting to be a hero in old-school style JRPG fashion in a game of overly melodramatic aughts-era JRPG, he's endearing anyway. Some of us just like to ignore the details of his story because it's kind of bad.
>>741412285>still no AerisHahahahaha. Got silent treatment from all promotions
>>741413623His Octaslash isn't even as good as Sephiroth's. It's slower and lacks grace.
>>741413654It sounds like you don't actually like FF7 honestly, you just like some character art of one of the charactersCan just watch someone stream it or something
>>741353640>white magenigga everyone in my party has auto counter 16x knights of the round and just spams limit breaks over and over
>>741413829I love ff7, but after the idea of an actual remake was raped and they put so much emphasis in Aerith's fate, it better mean something.
>>741413654The only way to play Remake, Rebirth and Revelation is to buy them on launch and avoid spoilers.
>>741413786Are you ok?
>>741413934That would be cool, but I feel there'll be leaks before launch
>>741413909It seems like the entire point of that was just because veterans already knew what happens to her, so planting the idea of saving her would make us feel loss all over again.But who knows, maybe something might be different. Just doesn't seem that way at the moment.
>>741414026I was spoiled on Aeris dying before getting to play FF7 decades ago. Game's still good despite that. Some shitty website in the late 90's had it right in the headline.I wouldn't worry THAT much about spoilers, just don't go out of your way for it.
>>741414026I got Remake over a week before the official release because my local regular super market was under impression the launch day being the old one that got later postponed.For Rebirth I remember some non-FF player black guy getting the game few days before the official launch and him streaming playing it and falling asleep in Zack scene where Zack too was sleeping on the matress on the floor in the alt world's dedicated cuck shed. I remember reposting the image and getting banned because Square Enix or Sony had the jannies by the balls and demanded the very crucial spoiler of Zack sleeping on dirty matress to be erased from the cognition of the mankind.
>>741406786Exactly. He became the town pariah after Tifa got herself hurt and blamed himself for being too weak to save her. His desire to become strong like Sephiroth was because he wanted to soothe his inferiority complex and gain the approval and acknowledgment of everyone in the town.Certain fans reducing this all to him just wanting to impress a girl is a massive disservice to the character and the story.
>>741414148AHAHAHAZack sleeping pic file is still red flagged on 4chan :DDD
shippers trying convince themselves that "they're sane shippers, and other shippers are crazy" is always funny.like they're so close to getting it, but just can't get there
Remember that Tifatards latch onto the LSS and Highwind because that’s literally all they have. Not even memeing, they get no other scenes worth a damn.And now we know that the Highwind will vary depending which characters you favour, and now we know that the LSS will feature Zack and Aerith.
>>7414135842 months later?
>>741414384I can’t help it if I chose the correct ship and that the other team are fucking morons.
>>741414384Very good timing on this post, looks like
>>741366889As someone who never played the OG, Remake made me slightly dislike Aerith. Rebirth on the other hand made me like her a lot. The ending made me really emotional even though I knew she was going to die.I put 120 hours in Rebirth doing everything. As the ending credits rolled and I realized that she will stay dead, I found myself thinking back on the silly side-quests, the synergy attacks, the goofy story events and so on. The next game will be fun, but there's some innocence gone with her not being there anymore.A lot of fags shit on Square-Enix for spending 10 years making 3 games. One thing no one can deny is that there aren't many games out there that have the player care about the story and characters as much as this one. I still like Tifa better though. Modded of course, because her having huge breasts is an integral part of her character and I'm not even joking.
>>741414451Neither of those are the most important Tifa scene
>>741414031Nah, that doesn't cut it for me. If it was that, they should have make us follow some sidequest rumors about reviving her like the ones back in the day, but it does nothing and you get a pink ribbon or something as a reward, complete with a comment about how you can't revive the dead. A nod to the OG rumors that doesn't interrupt the story.Instead they made a whole fucking thing about whispers, defying fate, avoiding the bad ending, matching songs, 'the world will be saved but will you' stuff. It would be ridiculous to now go 'haha jk, all that buildup is because we wanted to hurt more', especially when you could just pursue other characters instead, what would be the point of choosing Aerith?
>>741414384I just follow the story.
>>741414597The trilogy is literally about defying destiny and we killed the literal personification of fate in the first game. If she’s can’t be saved it’s literally at odds with the story they’ve told so far.
>>741366398What a stupid to compromise to make, makes the story seem like a joke.But now that they made it they better deliver in Revelation.
>>741414597I guess I just differ in your opinion. My enjoyment doesn't hinge on things going a hyper specific way, and I never thought everything was specifically about a single character. FF7 was always about everyone (though largely focused on Cloud)
How will Cloud react when Sephiroth shows him her death in northern crater?
>>741414737I completely agree about that. But the buildup they gave us matters to me. Why release a song telling me Cloud has been hurting this whole time just to end up the same?But I'm not closed off to other directions if they can convince me, but there's only one game left.
>>741414668I agree on that. What's the point of this, too.
>>741414737It’s not a question of wanting things a certain way. It’s wanted them to actually follow through with the setup.
>>741414973I think you have preconceived ideas of what it's setting up though when it may very well be setting up something else entirely.
>>741414148Both remake and rebirth got spoiled several months before release. On here, 4chin.Some dude played remake and posted it here. He didn't play OG so people thought he was larping about KH monsters and shit
>>741414815This will be what breaks him this time. They’ve already blown their load on Cloud’s identity and established that Tifa believes he is who he says he is so that can’t be the trigger this time.
>>741415009nta, but if they can convince me I'm open to it. Otherwise, yeah, I might never trust another one of their "stories" again, and I say this as a fan of final fantasy as a series.
>>741415037I remember that black dude who was streaming it and fell asleep in Zack’s cuck shed.
>>741415037I think it was the Remake demo having access to Assess data of all the enemies and people made memes of Fate Harbringers with the Beauty and the Beast because their Assess data was just "Can't Read"
>>741413654At least the past games have been enjoyable?
>>741415037How soon can we expect spoilers?
>>741415037>Both remake and rebirth got spoiled several months before release.I can give several days or max 1,5 weeks but several months is an exaggeration that does no favors for you
>>741415094I'm not sure what you're expecting me to convince you of here.
>>741415354I meant if square enix can convince me all that time consuming buildup was for something else, you obviously can't do anything.
>>741415501OH, I have no clue how I misread your comment, my mistake. I'm more tired than I thought.
>>741415168No that was after demo leaks.Dude was a retard, i dont think he was a 4chin poster, he just happened to leak it here. He never played OG so his experience with the game was wild. He also played with slow pace, took weeks to finish it.People didn't really believe him, plus there were some imposters, so no one thought it was real
>>741415621Demo was released one month before the official game launch. I don't have any idea where that "several months" comes from
How come Hamaguchi hasn't stopped giving interviews the whole week? I see like three new ones everyday. Is he on cocaine?
You could remove Aerith from the story and have another character summon Holy and not much would change. She's really only important because she holds the macguffin
>>741415330Covid happened, they had to ship the game as soon as they could. People got their copies weeks before its actual release date. And that dude played it even sooner, i don't remember how did he got it but he was definitely the first leaker
>>741415694Usually when companies announce a new game officially, they like to reap the benefits of the hype and give interviews. Media also likes to interview devs who have just announced a new game coming because readers tend to be interested in that.
>>741363131>Only major concern with part 3 was that they'd do something retarded like this>They doFuck me
>>741415776I give you 1,5 weeks because I got my copy week before the official launch. I don't buy several weeks let alone several months.
>>741415754You could say similar for everyone though, minus Cloud.The character relationships and their backstories is what makes them interesting and enjoyable.
>>741415776>And that dude played it even sooner, i don't remember how did he got it but he was definitely the first leakerI dunno, guy taking several weeks to beat Remake sounds very unbelievable.
>>741415830I don't get it.How's it retarded? It just looks like the normal Cloud realization with the addition of realizing of what really happened to Aerith. Other than a bit more dramatic flair, it's still pretty much the same realization overall.
>>741415754Let's say I replace her with Johnny. His death leaves Cloud still grieving three years later?
>>741415973Yes
Honestly, Zack helping Cloud during the Nibelheim lifestream portion would be peak bro moment. It will be different, better accept it now.
>>741415915Might be a shipper thing, and they're seeing things in that quote that it isn't saying.
>>741416000And when Sephiroth talks about what he cherishes most, he sees Johnny reaching down to him?
>>741353640She's not even the best healer, Barret and Tifa can charge their atb gauges quicker and get heals off faster.
>>741415915>It's still pretty much the same realization overall I'm gonna need a source for that
Do I really have to beat remake intergrade for times to get all the cheevos?
>>741416137I'm going off of that quote in that image you reacted to. That's why I said I don't get it.What am I missing here?
>>741416125Uh she's a female and has long dress and wields a staff, that's common trope for mages
>>741363131Life THIS stream*Zzzzzip* pssssssssss
Still not enough Aerith in this thread
>>741416170What are you going to do with the cheevos? Why are they that important to you?
>>741363131And it will be better for it.
>>741367418Will Barrett empty his bowels onto Yuffies face like it was phophisied?
>>741415915I don't trust them to not shit it up with their quasi-multiverse bullshit
>>741416363Well sure, I can get that concern overall.I just don't understand how that image contributes to that though I guess.
>>741363131>Zack and AerithGood, they're going to finally establish them as a couple and crush the clerith faggots' dreams.
>>741352986I do not care for the new voice of Sephiroth in Revelations.
>>741363131Why are people complaining before seeing it? I trust the developers, if Zack and Aerith will also be there helping Cloud, you best believe it's going to make sense and still be an incredible scene.
>>741416442Aerith and especially Zack are pretty heavily tied to that shit. The explicit call out of their involvement in that scene worries me, and with it already taking place in the lifestream I just don't think they'll be able to stop themselves
>>741416489I always wonder how it feels to be the replacement VA when stuff like this happens. Original VA is not available for whatever reason, someone has to do it, you're a professional, but you also know that there WILL be fan backlash. But still, someone has to do it.
>>741371604Hoo boy, can't wait for the next instalment of "this is an illusion of choice!" complaining after people pick the obviously wrong choices.
>>741371824Welp, I'm off to get my hand massaged by Madam M again. Tifa, make sure Yuffie doesn't run off with my materia, okay?
>>741416550I just saw it as adding the "Cloud's memory of Zack is false" as he's been remembering it so far in Rebirth, and his memory of Aerith being alive after Forgotten Capital will also be revealed to him.Just additional dramatic flair in addition to him realizing he himself is not who he thought he was
>>741416608>and his memory of Aerith being alive after Forgotten Capital will also be revealed to him.*as false I meanBut I guess it could go the other way, who knows.
>>741416516It makes sense for Zack to be there, but why include Aerith, someone who has no past history with Cloud? They're only doing this to keep the shippers from killing themselves.
>>741416679Because they added an additional aspect of Cloud believing Aerith is alive after she died and being in denial. Just like he is in denial about Zack and himself.
>>741416679Sorry, meant for >>741363131
>>741416457Stop hurting yourself.
>>741416457>he doesn't know about the Maiden, EC etc.Every single depiction of the Zack & Aerith reunion so far has only served to massively friendzone both parties. I don't particularly care for FFVII shipping, but being a sincere Zerith fan in the year 2026 of our lord is just pure masochism. That pairing has a 100% lose rate.
>>741415835actual gameplay ? nodetails. They leak all the time
>>741416839Aerith's dead, Tifa isn't.
>>741416935I know, that's why Cloud is like this.
>>741416751There's also that whole aspect of Aerith trying to find the real Cloud, which he couldn't understand before.
>>741416556Oh, I don't hate the guy, a gig is a gig. But it's a completely different voice, it throws me off. Wanna know who I DO hate? That faggot that's going to post on some to forum about how "Sephiroth is at FULL POWER and this guy are ANGRY so it totally makes sense that his voice changed!!"If it hasn't happened already, it will. I know it. I just fucking know it. That fucking loser is always right around the corner with shield in hand to defend piles of shit from mean words.
>>741416679Because it's been established since Maiden who travels the Planet era that Aerith guided Tifa into Cloud's mind, so she has always been involved in the Lifestream sequence, so Square-Enix is just expanding the idea. And if you're going to say MwttP is plausibly non-canon, it's irrelevant, because I'm talking about its era and ideas.
>>741391384Kek
>>741417010Oh I believe it. That kind of shit has been happening in Star Wars its entire existence, retroactive explanations for what are simple real-life concessions.
>>741417069It was established since the OG when that NPC tells you a guardian angel must have protected you when you fell into the mako.
>>741389190>Aerith is coming backYes, in Zack's timeline.
>>741371604>singular endingIt's over for Aerithfags, then.
>>741417186I... I never caught that.
>>741416839Please don't let their revelation scenes be like this. I fucking hate Tifa shippers man, if they didn't try to use her connection with Zack to remove Aerith from the story, square would be comfortable giving us fanservice of them too. But they fucking can't because morons would blow it out of proportion to prop up their ship. I just want cute Zack Aerith moments, I don't mind they don't end up together.
>>741417335Anon, this is the og ending. And they are obviously changing it to an actual reunion anyway.
>>741417362Oh, that's just a non-canon special event in their mobile game, not an actual Story scenario. People like showing Ever Crisis stuff for shitposting and to ragebait shippers sometimes. It's not really indicative of anything.
>>741417516It it was pointless why bother making it in the first place? Sounds like coping.
>>741417478After which he'll move on with Tifa at his side because Aerith is fucking dead.
>>741416839>A fucking gachaDon't this to yourself
>>741417696Because it was a special event and helped push gacha outfits.Unless you think Sephiroth is actually going to wear that getup from that special event?I respect the commitment on your part for the troll though, it's a funny angle
>>741416839>rejected by Zack >rejected by Cloud Poor Aerith. Rejected by every boy.
>>741417362You are the ones pretending Zack doesn't exist and don't even want to consider CC canon though
>>741417724That never happened in the three years into the future we see.
>>741388309Pretty obviously yes. Jessie got a kiss, Yuffie got a kiss, Tifa got a kiss, connect the dots. The Tifa kiss was the preemptive apology to her fans.
>>741417908I just had a funny thought, since they said they wanted "equal scenes" before.If for the alternative to Cloud and Tifa fucking under the Highwind, they give an option to instead kiss spirit Aerith.Just to piss all shippers off, still keeping Cloud and Tifa fucking as an option, and pissing off Tifa shippers with allowing an Aerith kiss.
>>741417839This is a different timeline, so that's no longer going to happen, thankfully.
Is EC bleeding money this days? I feel like all non Tifa mains left for other games already, and the game is struggling for it.
>>741417839Cloud and Tifa live together and raise Marlene and Denzel (the kid written for the novel and was originally orphaned and Aerith's ghost led Cloud finding him and taking him in). Cloud and Tifa sleep in separate rooms and in Advent Children Cloud had taken the habit of sleeping in Aerith's church and suffering from survivor's guilt and Geostigma. That way they don't contradict either player choices of Cloud romancing Tifa or Cloud not romancing Tifa as in the FF7 OG whether Cloud and Tifa have intimate moment depends on the affection score.
>>741418008anon... how can you keep something that wasn't there in the original game? I think the Tifa highwind scene will be EXACTLY like the OG one, and Tifa shippers will be disappointed because they're expecting a completely different scene that never existed.
>>741418015You're correct. This is our new ending.
>>741418108nta, but the implied cloud+tifa sex scene required a high tifa score to get. else you get a very similar scene removing that context.it's why there's so much confusion over it. the scenes are so similar that people will mistakenly think the people who got the other is lying.
>>741418108See? It'd work perfectly!Keeping it in pissed off the Aerith shippers, allowing an alternative Aerith kiss pisses off the Tifa shippers!
>>741418187You can't get a dead woman pregnant, anon.
>>741418108>>741418204Yes.The scene depends on the affection score. If high, Tifa says "Words are not the only thing to let others know how you feel" and the camera tilts up. Following morning the rest of the party reveals they saw Cloud and Tifa previous night and Tifa is mortified and drops on her knees shaking her head.With low affection score they "just" sleep together and the party doesn't imply they saw them having sex and Tifa doesn't drop on her knees.
>>741418108It will be interesting to see. They kept Aerith's date almost unchanged for being so "iconic" and her fans celebrated. I thought it was pathetic they didn't ask for more when all the other characters got improved dates. Tifa fans will get the exact same "iconic" highwind scene were nothing really happens, but I predict they will have massive meltdowns. Will be interesting to see square's reaction.
>>741418298Thank god we're saving her then.
>>741418318>Tifa fans will get the exact same "iconic" highwind scene were nothing really happens,To be fair we never see Cloud and Tifa's models having sex exactly. The implications are there.In early development the dev were planning to have Tifa and Cloud walk away from the Highwind's chocobo stable with Tifa sneaking out and looking around if anyone's there and then walking/running away while Cloud cockily walking away after her.
>>741417724>still officially just a childhood friend years later according to DoC>Cloud's dream is canonically reuniting with Aerith>refuses to say he loves Tifa even when she demands itGrim.
>>741418204No anon, the thing is, there WAS a suggestive scene proposed in the OG. The director shot it down. The actual scene in the final game is a nothing burger with some changed dialogue for the HA LA versions. Word spread about the rejected scene, and Tifa fans took it to mean 'if they were going to have sex in the rejected scene, then the same is meant to happen in the non rejected scene' which makes zero sense.In the actual final scene, we get one "suggestive" line in the HA version, but visually nothing happens. If they adapt the same scene, her fans will be pissed as fuck, because they're expecting something alluding to the scene REJECTED by the director.
>>741418389Even in Square's "edgy-no-longer-at-Nintendo" phase that was a step too far for them. Had to stick to a less direct implication.I have a suspicion that's why they did the Clive/Jill scene in FF16 like they did. Now it was Mature rated instead of Teen rated so they didn't need to stick to implications anymore.
>>741418389Yes, they were going to imply it. And that was rejected by Kitase. The OG director and Retrilogy producer. People keep expecting the developers to prioritize the feeling of the rejected scene over the final one, and that's going to cause multiple crashouts when the game releases.
>>741418437Yeah, I didn't play those games because they're low effort slop, Cloud fucks Tifa in my FF7 playthroughs and that's all that matters.
>>741418548i know, that's what I'm referring to. yhey don't need to directly show it, it's still aiming for the same rating as og ff7.>If they adapt the same scene, her fans will be pissed as fucki don't see why. it was an implication in og as well, not directly showing they had sex.
>>741418032It’s quite impressive (and cowardly) when you look at how they wrote it. Just plausible enough either way to pacify both sets of fans.
>>741418307Actually, there might be no sex scene at all, weirdly enough. The Ultimania says the outcome is the same for both low and high affection scores, ending with the same scene of them just "napping together". Nojima also said that scene was written by Kato and not him, and he never paid much attention to the lines said there.They might put an implied sex scene there now, but people shouldn't be too surprised if they don't, because in Nojima's head it was never there to begin with.
>>741418307He didn’t fuck her out in the open on a jagged, freezing cold rock. Not in either version of the scene.
>>741418561Anon, they had girls dancing over you in many pixel ff games. Complete with suggestive music and the screen going pink. They had a whorehouse in ff7. The scene of Cloud being molested by men got to the development phase.They did not "remove" the scene for being suggestive or for rating, Kitase shot it down as a mere concept because he didn't want that. The scene never existed.
They just had an implication of them having sex, it wasn't a sex scene.Hardly a big deal. I didn't get it because I was shooting for Aeris all game when she was around, saw it on a friend's playthrough back when.
>>741418758Then why does Tifa fall on her knees in complete embarrassment? Women don’t do that if you see them being just kissed.
>>741418318Aerith’s date didn’t need improving. It was the best one in the original and it is still the best one in Rebirth.
>>741418747if you want to tell yourself that i guess. they didn't show explicit material in the whorehouse either, just "chasing" the honey bee girls and such.it really isn't a big deal to me one way or the other, i was just talking about there being implied sex between Tifa and Cloud with a high enough rating.
>>741418798Reread my post. I was saying it wasn't a sex scene solely due to it not being shown on screen, I wasn't saying they didn't have sex with a high enough affection for Tifa. Like I said, I didn't get it in my playthrough but I saw it in a friend's playthrough.
>>741418798Nta, but according to the ultimania, because the conversation is more intimate I guess? It all seems pretty wink wink nudge nudge, while maintaining complete plausible deniability of anything more happening.
>>741418758In Euro cover in the back they had Cloud lowering Aerith in the lake so even though I wasn't spoiled for it, I had a hunch Aerith was going to die
>>741418904Did you reply to the wrong post?
>>741418318What does it say about the other characters in the original if their dates weren’t considered important enough to recreate properly for Rebirth?
>>741418953No.
>sex scene>in a T gameSeriously?
>>741418892Might be a localization thing as well. The western translators took a LOT of liberties in their translation (which is why Western Cid seems much more harsh than Japanese Cid and Westerners miss Red actually being so young)But I don't know for sure, I never played with the Japanese script.
>>741418983Oh, so you're just confused about the post. Because it makes no sense as a reply.
I always thought sex did happen under the highwind? Because is the night before the final battle and before meteor and Sephiroth kill them all, maybe they'll die tomorrow, instinct to reproduce or something. Japanese media is big on the suspension bridge effect too. But judging by everything after, it was meant to be an obvious one-night stand.
>>741419094Nope.
>>741371604So... Aerith sex?
>>741419105Did they fuck, get dressed, then sit up on a rock with Tifa falling asleep on his shoulder?
>>741419094Yeah, he's confused. I think he thought you said it didn't happen or something like the other anon.
>>741419149You can’t sex a dead chick Well… you can but you really shouldn’t
>>741419178It's the ps1
>>741419149Ghostsecks confirmed
>>741419181I gathered as much.7 shippers are so weird.
>>741419149Aerith will possess Tifa and use her body to fuck Cloud.
>>741419105It depends on viewer. There's the picture of dolphins jumping from water forming a shape of man and woman having sex. Kids only see the dolphins because they don't have concept of sex while teens and adults see the sex.Younger players might not realize the sex implications of the Highwind scene while older players understand the "words are not the only thing to show how you feel" and Tifa's mortified reaction learning the others saw the two of them during the night
>>741419185I saved her
>>741419261It will be 1 of 8 optional versions of the scene this time.
>>741419280Sephiroth penetrates Aerith with long phallic object and forces Cloud to watch
>>741419105Why did Nojima say "I didn't think it the line would be important"?Is he a chad who sees sex as something unimportant?
>>741419323No I saved her
>>741419339He didn’t write it and the guy who did was a rando who doesn’t work there anymore. The scene is going to change.
>>741419339Nojima hinting Cloud is a sigma chad since the OG. Fucking is just another activity to him. Other ff protagonists can't relate.
>>741419198Same reason Don Corneo picks Cloud only and the concept of having Red breed with Aerith was changed to having S and G Soldiers impregnate her. Modern graphics would give too real mental images even if they didnt actually happen and were just talked about
>>741353640Yuffie had a healing limit break but the materia allow you to make any other character a healer
>>741371604If there will be choose your partner sex scenes, I want this.
>>741371604stupid NIP logic
>>741367664Tifa belongs to Aerith.
>>741419349Then why did you leave her behind?
>>741419405Breeding two distant species together to save them is also just really fucking stupid. In 99.9999% of cases it would either do nothing or, if they are closely related, produce sterile offspring. It's the kind of idea an edgy 13 year old who slept through all his science lessons would have, not a mad bioengineer. Breeding her with his special snowflake human soldiers, on the other hand, could legitimately produce something interesting.
You people are tyring. There will be no sex scene. The third game is about Cloud's real self, aligned to the one in crisis core and advent children. Nojima said he was not able to make a proper distinction of Cloud pre and post lifestream in the OG and he regretted it. A one night stand is something pre lifestream Cloud would do.
>>741419665I'll go back to her after defeating the bad guy, that way she won't get hurt.
>>741419713I’d say it’s to establish how much of a sick fuck Hojo is but the plot does nothing with him.
>>741418008it's fucking hilarious that this post triggered a segment of shippers instantly, even though it was just a "what-if" scenario
>>741419149Aerith and Cloud would only sex after marriage, she's pure.
>>741419875Yeah, purely dead
>>741419767He's a sick fuck, sure, but it's also established that he likes to get results. Breeding Red and Aerith wouldn't give him any and he'd know that.Besides, I think turning Aerith into a breeding sow for a bunch of mutant SOLDIERs of highly questionable morals and sanity is far more disturbing.
>>741419754But the bad guy won't come after her later?
>>741419875>*wouldn't sex BEFORE marriageThey would obviously sex after marriage a lot.
>>741411032I have to grant her wish.
