I’m wondering why Tolkien has a monopoly on the characterization and aesthetic of fantasy. Anytime you do something different like evil elves in Elder Scrolls and Dragon Age or good orcs in Warcraft you make people angry.
>>741365784plap the one on the right
>>741365784Right head and personalityLeft body
>>741365784give me the right. hee-ho
left head and personalityon right body
>>741365784As Terry Pratchett put it, Tolkien is the MT fuji of the medieval fantasy world It's not the biggest, not the first, doesn't have really much history to it compared to others, yet it's one people know about at a glance and every other mountain is in it's shadow To put it simply, Tolkien got popular due to making fantasy that's a digestible journey and a fantasy world that reads like a history book without the politics
>>741365784Maybe don't rip off tolkien archetypes with only one personality change
>>741365784I need porn of the one on the right
>you make people angry.name one game
The vast majority of people aren't "angry" about Elder Scrolls and Warcraft. They're beloved settings that have had people cosplaying, roleplaying, and lorewanking for decades.
>>741365958>>741366027>>741366056>>741366092>>741366175Have sex incels
>>741365784Make something less shitty thenYou suck, GRRMFuck your pedo incest scat taxes rape bullshit
>>741365784deedlit wouldnt say that, she's nice
>>741366228With you?
>>741366228You offering your holes?
>>741365958oofrowdy my beloved
>>741365784he doesn't. tolkien is dead
>>741366228are you offering?
>>741365784hate sex is kino
>>741365784Tolkien does depict evil elves. In the Hobbit the first thing the elves do is imprison Thorin and company. Thranduil bargains their freedom for precious jewels located in the mountains. Mind you Thorin and co. were fighting in a decaying forest they claim to protect, thats infested with monstrous creatures like giant spiders.
>>741366406That's not evil, the dwarves were trespassing on land they knew belonged to the elves and were trying to just squeeze by quickly without anyone noticing The elves in middle earth aren't evil, they're just assholes
>>741366492Land that was corrupted and swarming with evil. That they claimed ownership and love to protect. If I was an emissary or some rich trader I would be downright pissed off that the land of some immortal demigods was like this and how they treated hosts.
>>741365784 What are good games with sexy elves that you can play on the switch or switch 2?
>>741365784Half of the elven kind have been enslaved by God and Jesus to serve Santa?
>>741366358im a guy
>>741366613Then don't get into the forest if you know it's shit and the elves aren't doing anything about itEven the humblest of hobbits would know that Also what kind of trader or emissary goes through a forest instead of the main roads? The elves don't have need for either and will come to places that have them if they want them
>>741366806Tons of people go through woods to reach places faster. Not all of Middle-Earth is a bustling civilization.
>>741366152TP was onions writer with humour on par with retarded schoolboy, who the fuck cares what he said?Tolkien is fucking based and his books are product of lots of work and talent, his orcs and elves are archetype. Blizzards did a sloppy job of colored haired college dropouts raised on comics books for mouthbreathers. Their orcs are stolen esthetics and “noble savage” sticker.
>>741366739What are you, a homophobe?
>>741366406>>741365784"this race is evil" is extremely retarded. Even Orcs are usually characterized as being tricked/persuaded into doing the bidding of some wicked entity but are not "evil" as a species. "Evil elves" makes no sense, "elves that have competing interests to humans" is well-explored in tons of different worlds.
>>741365784>High Elf/Wood Elf>Santa's elf
>>741365958>>741366027We’ve already had this thread.
>>741366942Larper alert
The "Christmas elf" is an anglo mischaracterization, in Nordic countries they are basically a type of gnome.
>>741367032And we'll have it another 50 times until we get it right
>>741367020An entire race can certainly be evil or have a culture that teaches oppressing others you see as beneath you. Thats more realistic than anything.
>>741365958
>>741367116Yeah even in the books the orcs are evil, they just don't like having to follow Sauron because they know he uses them like pawnsHe even just has Shelob eat some of them if she feels like it
>>741367095Funny, in spanish they are called "Duendes de navidad" Christmas Goblins.Some designs actually portait them more as Goblins than elves.(Why in Harry potter elves look like this?)
>>741367116Every human race and culture does that. It's completely natural to dominate the weak. It's only through cultural artifacts (memes) that conflicting moral values arise, the natural state is conquest. By your definition, white, black yellow and red men are all "evil races". Lions are evil. Ants are evil.
>>741366092
>>741367020>"this race is evil" is extremely retarded.kill yourself, we don't need more ambiguous or misunderstood gay netflix shit
>>741367116I wouldn't say it's realistic, but in a universe with magic it's entirely possible. The orcs in LOTR are ontologically evil and cannot become good. All goodness was stripped from them by Sauron.
>>741367410This is actually a hard choice now. Do you want the retarded bimbo, or the kind and caring flat chest?
>>741367363>Lions are evil. Ants are evil.yes, you begin to understand. even the trees and plants, by taking resources from others, by shading lessers from vital sunlight, could be called evil.this is unfortunately the way the world is. eat, and be eaten. only the sovereign peace of the state guards us from this.
>>741367415I'm not saying blacks aren't genetically predisposed to impulsive violence you brainlet. I'm saying the concept of an "evil race" is bad writing.
>>741366739ANSWER THE QUESTION
Does anyone actually do Tolkien elves? Almost always they just do twinks who are good witih bows, which is not Tolkien elves at all.
>>741367601So when everything is evil, the classification of evil ceases to be descriptive.
>>741367020Why not? There's evil races in real life. Take niggers for example, they've destroyed every area they've taken over, in every country, no matter the politics or history of the area, no matter the culture language or religion of the niggers. They destroy everything because they think it's fun. They jump people and stomp their heads into the cement because they're sadistic. They gang rape women because they're devoid of empathy. They litter and maintain nothing because they're selfish. They rally around murderers like OJ and Karmello Anthony, because they're purely tribal. Orcs are real.Humans are just animals and if kindness isn't an advantage for your environment, your species won't evolve it.
>>741366942Thrall and a handful of other orcs are the only "noble savages". Every time he turns away for a second, the orcs attack Ashenvale or something. The vast majority of warcraft orcs are shown over and over again to glorify brutal violence.
>>741367116The white race is the only race on earth that has ever shown any mercy to lessor races. Arabs, Chinese, Aztecs, and Niggers have never shown a drop of mercy in their entire history.
>>741366718sauce?
>>741366725You guys really love your jews here
>>741367714Saying niggers are evil ascribes far too much agency to them.
>>741367617Then real life has bad writing.I think good writing can center around, how do you deal with a mindless horde of dumb violent tribalistic rape apes. A question Europe needs to answer fast.
>>741367858gotta codeswitch to get through to the locals. it's rough but it is what it is.
>>741367902I think chaotic stupid is the ultimate evil. They destroy without purpose, they leave themselves worse off. Look at Zimbabwe, or Detroit. Their destruction doesn't even benefit themselves. To me that is evil in its purest form.
>>741367936I think the real question is how to deal with puppeteers from the shadows and how to free oneself from digital mind control prisons. The rape apes are the symptom.
>>741365784Do people really have a problem with evil elves? They make really fun characters like Unra Stoneheart from Skyrim Journey of a Hero.
>>741368047If you swapped in a bunch of monkey tribes into detroit they would ruin everything all the same. They can't understand civilization, they are not domesticated, but no one would call them evil.
>>741368047>Their destruction doesn't even benefit themselves.But they consistently think it does. They don't think far enough ahead to see the consequences, so to them the consequencees don't exist, and all that exists is a very short term benefit. We grab all the land and we'll all be well off because we have land! We loot all the stores and we'll all be rich because we have so much stuff! Later is too far away to register.So it's not mindless evil for the purpose of being evil. It's just shortsightedness.
Man I fucking love elves
>>741367338Duendes aren't goblins
>>741367802AYO! Dey dindu nuffin! DEY WUZ KANGZ!!!
>>741365784It's more D&D than Tolkien that everyone is copying. Tolkien of course had an influence on D&D, but they're distinct enough that something actually copying Tolkien would be a breath of fresh air at this point.People seem to just latch on to whatever depiction of something they first encountered in media they liked as the "correct" one for whatever reason. Just look at the weird "actually, that's not a dragon, it's a wyvern" thing that was oddly common a few years back, while pretty much no one cares about how different modern depictions of dragons are from classic ones.>>741366613Mirkwood is huge, and the elves are in decline. It was a much nicer place when the elves actually had the power to secure it.
>>741367410Now we're getting somewhere.
>>741368292False. Look at the niggers rampaging in every western country. Look at the niggers who beat strangers to death for fun in every ghetto. look at the niggers who rally around other niggers who they know are evil but they don't care.Niggers and Jews are the purest evil that exists in this world. There is no greater evil that has ever existed. In fact, I would say that if you even attempted to write something more evil than a nigger, YOU are the corny faggot who is bad at writing.
>>741366942>his orcs are archetype.Huh?What other fantasy had very lawful and industrial orcs?>bbbbut I watched lord of the rings and amazon show and orcs were like in my warcraftNo one caresAlso, actually not many fantasy did elves being superior master race, usually writters pussy out and make them inferior to humans one way or another. Warhammer FB elves were closet thing to Tolkien ones, while usually fags just copy dnd orcs and elves
>>741365784Wrong. You don't make people angry. You make autists angry.
>>741367410>Stupid bimbo elf >hard working good looking elf Jeez, what a tough choice
>>741368282Ranga's would be just fine.Even gorillas would be just fine.Only chimps would be that chaotic, and yes, chimpanzees are evil. There are many evil animals. Bot flies, leeches, etc...You sir, are a hippie faggot. You haven't actually thought deeply about these things at all. "He doesn't know any better!" is a communist faggot argument. It doesn't matter if they're retarded, they're still evil sadistic abominations that the world is better without.
>>741368667Big tits are more valuable than any other quality
>>741368567story device vs video game balance
>>741368268evil elves are the most rapable
>>741367841Farming Life in Another World 2
>>741368376Use Google Translator
>>741365784Getting right pregnant multiple times
>>741368292>Later is too far away to register.this is ultimately a symptom of poverty. an ingrown mindset of having nothing, that expects anything nice will soon vanish. they don't care that their actions (or inactions) make things shit because in their minds everything is already shit and always will be. get money and spend it on what you want, before something else takes it away.
>>741368667What if she's not actually stupid, but just likes making funny faces at you?
>>741365784The characterizations Tolkien used are pulled from actual mythology. That's what makes them so sticky.The only way i wish they changed is to make elves more fae than noble. They should be inscrutable assholes
>>741368874It's not just that, it's also a question of intellect and discipline. Different people consider different timescales for consequences. Some people steal because today is all they can conceptualize, others play video games all day because ten years from now doesn't exist, and again others stuff their face with red meat all day because cancer 40 years later isn't real, and all of us consoooom because the damage to the planet is for future generations to deal with.
Elden Ring writer BTFO tolkien pretty hard, to be honest
>>741368852Google no sabe nada de mi idioma y mi cultura. Los duendes no son goblins. They are closer to leprechauns
>>741365784>HA HA DIFFERENT THINGS ARE....DIFFERENT!What is even the fucking joke here?
>>741365784Tolkien was heavily inspired by the works of George MacDonald, specifically his 1872 book The Princess and the Goblin
>>741366725wow, an actually funny webcomic that isn't edgy like Sinfest, nice
>>741367617I'm not saying blacks are or aren't, I don't care about thatI'm saying you're a fag for wanting "complex" racesA force or obstacle for the protagonists to overcome can take any shape, a race of creatures being just one
>>741369612Don't get your hopes up
>>741366942Terry is the Dr Who of fantasy writers, onions as fuck and highly pretentious, in love with his own wit. That being said, he had his moments.
>>741368352humans*
>>741366718when did backgrounds become so incredibly bland and sterile?background artists were incredibly important to good korean sweatshop animation (even if they are static)
>>741368047this, we are oppressed far moreso by turd worlders and niggers, than by the 0.01% giga-kike rats ruling the world. That being said, the reason the turd worlders are in our faces are because OF those kike-rats, but at least they're not directly ruining our lives.
>>741367565They both have big tits
>>741369952They're the first thing you sacrifice if you want to save money, and most anime is made on a shoestring budget.
>>741367410so are the ai gen wave artifacts a byproduct or deliberate for detection of source gen?i've only started noticing them within the past few months, and they are really obvious
>>741368874thats a symptom of low iqs moreso than poverty, and low iqs generally lead to poverty aswell.Retardation and poverty often go hand in hand. You are anti-biology to make these claims, its psuedo-science to pretend that niggers can be as smart as white europeans if you just give them enough welfare and privileges they haven't earned.
>>741369960You can make any country look good, or shit.
>>741369056Sort of, nobody, and i mean nobody who isn't the creepiest pervert, wants to even THINK about hobbit-sex, sorry. He pointed out lineage and marriage all the time in his books, he just didn't want to be a pervert and put his sexual fantasies on paper.
>>741369056>since you cant imaging hobbits having sex, can you?Skill issue.
>>741365784Sex with futa elf
>>741370192the worst slums in australia still look better than that negro image i posted. Well, the aboriginal reserves in the outback are pretty much the same to be fair.
>>741369952>movie with budget vs anime series with no money geee man
>>741367410>>741367183Add futa package
>>741370305Fake new.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lL0nf1LDGw
>>741370305That was just a common punishment for stealing, done by their own people. They still practice that shit to this day.
Kill /pol/ fags
>>741366718I can't believe they actually cut to the outside of the cabin without any kind of visual cue that the pipe exploded, not even a simple wobble of the camera.
>>741367116USA?
>>741370017anime is more popular and profitable than everand something tells me that most anime in the past was on an even tighter budget, but the people working on it also liked to draw and the horrible working conditions filtered out all the people that weren't serious about it
>>741366725>Sleigherhhheheh
>>741370631elf will ferrell
>>741367183Perfection.
>>741370429i know i picked a pretty extreme example, but still, things were hand painted in old shiteverything looks like it was rendered as an orthographic projection in modern shit
>>741370703Most anime from back then also looks like total ass.
>>741365784elves were domesticated by human men
>>741367565I want the retarded bimbo. This was not a difficult choice.
>>741370339Kys
I've noticed over the last month on /v/ I don't ever get (you)'s for sharing interesting information anymore. I only get them now for shitposting, calling people jeets etc. Something has changed.
>>741370953Actual discussion is buried under some samefag flooding the thread to whine about blacks for the 8th time that hour
>>741370953(You) faggot
>>741370868there's always been assthere hasn't always been quality
>>741366613you don't get to tell me how to keep my own lawn, you HOA wannabe faggot.
>>741368694Actually I'm more racist than you, you're smalltime. I don't need to use nonsense words like "evil" to justify my beliefs, which are the same as yours but more correct.
>>741366725Why would you tally up the days until Christmas?
>>741370901More like pawns of a God's servant, who force them to create toys for human children.
>>741367802That stopped happening after they killed the last elf in ashenvale, now it's just peaceful logging.
>>741366718It's insane how terrible modern anime is
>>741371313To escape in Santa's ride
>>741371313Santa will get his due
>>741369056I guess we ought to send him several gigabytes of midget porn
>>741371313That's chalk remover, she's erasing lines.
>>741370631>A OD L I A R D C I E L>GO EF S POUTV EF
>>741369056?
>>741371767Autism.
>>741370703>and profitable
>>741370921No, kill yourself
>>741369056George R R Martin will have no legacy beyond that of a failure who failed to complete his life's work. In 1000 years people will still be reading Tolkien.
>>741366056Jack Frost?!
>>741365784High elves deserve bondage
>>741367183S E XEX
>>741369056>"Life is very full of sex, or should be.">George R.R. Martin >unmarried, no children Meanwhile>Tolkien >married, 4 children Huh?
>>741366191Warhammer
>>741365784>I’m wondering why Tolkien has a monopoly on the characterization and aesthetic of fantasy. Anytime you do something different like evil elves in Elder Scrolls and Dragon Age or good orcs in Warcraft you make people angry.because those things suck while Tolkien did a good job? Warcraft is definitely shit tier writing with shit tier changes and jeet tier aesthetics. As for Elder Scrolls all of that is just stolen or borrowed from warhammer though they kind of reflect each other, kirkbride's acid trips are neat and do mix up some nice gnosticism into a fairly original elf mix but everything after morrowwind is pretty much swill. Dragon Age... are you fucking serious? Barely borrowed DnD crap shit all over a mediocre setting with terrible (who knew it could get worse than dragon age honestly, that slipper slope) writing.You can enjoy eating shit, everyone else will still inform you that your breath smells of it.
>>741372052>George R R Martin will have no legacy beyond that of a failure who failed to complete his life's work. In 1000 years people will still be reading Tolkien.I can't wait till someone buys the rights to his books and shits out an AI Winds of Winter. God will that be funny.
>>741366228do you look like this
>>741369056always funny when normalfags prop up GRRM on some sort of literary pedestal
>>741370339>>741370442This anon understand the lore.
>>741365784I will fuck the right elf and make her my wife.
>>741369056GRRM should do futanari elves
>>741369220Oh
>>741371556>>741371805>>741372052>>741372248>>741372739You just jealous because american writter wrote both best tv show and goty game
>>741373212>ESL defending diamond-dozen boring fantasy author celebrityWowee.
>>741369220>>741373119Anon
>>741369056Tolkien had heard a similar critique in his lifetime. Scottish poet Edwin Muir had once written, whilst reviewing the Return of the King:>"All the characters are boys masquerading as adult heroes…and will never come to puberty… Hardly one of them knows anything about women."Tolkien had written this to his editor as a response:>Blast Edwin Muir and his delayed adolescence. He is old enough to know better. It might do him good to hear what women think of his 'knowing about women', especially as a test of being mentally adult. If he had an M.A. I should nominate him for the professorship of poetry – a sweet revenge.
>>741373315They all could be the same thing.
>>741365784So why arent dark elves in Santa's workshop?
>>741373390Cute little minion-like things.
>>741373212If he was that good, he'd finish his shit.
>>741373459It's a WORKshop.
>>741373212fat fuck can't even finish his own story
>>741365784>good orcs in WarcraftYeah because the extent of "good orcs" was>act as stereotypical orcs would act>rape pillage murder invade conquer >then say they are noble savages acthuaallywow riveting storytelling so brave so unique so nuanced I can't believe no one has tried this before what if bad was actually le good holy shit OP you've really struck gold with this one
>>741369056>since you cant imaging hobbits having sex, can you?Nigger, what? They are almost literally short humans, how the fuck could you not imagine them having sex? God, this fucking fat retard and his fans annoy me so much.
>>741373459Had to let them go after the North won the Civil War.
>>741365784People are consoomers who are too stupid to think outside of their box. Look at the goddamn endless wyvern debates, a fucking D&D classification split being touted as gospel.
>>741368841Read a few, its pretty bad.
>>741365784Shit comic, I played with wooden trains as a child.
>>741365784What I don't understand how kobolds came to be reptile or in Japan furry creatures. In Germany they are more like goblins or fey creatures. Leprechans are often translated as Kobolde in german.
tolkien ruined several generations of literatureThe reviewer has just read the whole thing aloud to his seven-year old daughter, who has been through The Hobbit countless times, beginning it again the moment she has finished, and whose interest has been held by its more prolix successors. One is puzzled to know why the author should have supposed he was writing for adults. There are, to be sure, some details that are a little unpleasant for a children’s book, but except when he is being pedantic and also boring the adult reader, there is little in The Lord of the Rings over the head of a seven-year-old child
>>741366739so you're an incel?
>>741365784Erlkönig 1821 painting. Erlkönig is supposed to mean king of the elves.
>>741374648Lizard kobolds happened cause Forgotten Realms lore made them dragon worshipersDogbolds happened because the illustrator for the japanese D&D monster manual read "dog-like faces" and skipped over the lizard partJust like orcs having upturned noses turned into literal pig faces
>>741374891I was wrong that painting is from 1830 but only a 9 years differnce.
>>741366725
>There are streaks of imagination: the ancient tree-spirits, the Ents, with their deep eyes, twiggy beards, rumbly voices; the Elves, whose nobility and beauty is elusive and not quite human. But even these are rather clumsily handled. There is never much development in the episodes; you simply go on getting more of the same thing. Dr. Tolkien has little skill at narrative and no instinct for literary form. The characters talk a story-book language that might have come out of Howard Pyle, and as personalities they do not impose themselves. At the end of this long romance, I had still no conception of the wizard Gandalph [sic], who is a cardinal figure, had never been able to visualize him at all. For the most part such characterizations as Dr. Tolkien is able to contrive are perfectly stereotyped: Frodo the good little Englishman, Samwise, his dog-like servant, who talks lower-class and respectful, and never deserts his master. These characters who are no characters are involved in interminable adventures the poverty of invention displayed in which is, it seems to me, almost pathetic
>>741367183>>741367410You don't get it.>>741370631This is correct.
>>741374648I like them more as Reptilian leeser variant of the lizardmen
>>741365784>you make people angryfucking wherethe only time I've ever seen that is retards here complaining about how it's "woke" to characterize holy magic as not inherently good
>>741369056>since you can't imagine hobbits having sex, can you?I sure can!
>>741374648That image made me think of the Domovoy, the Slavic spirits of the house.
>>741375386I think they are a similar concept. The Klabautermann is also often called a Kobold in german and he is said to live on a ship.
>>741365784Evil elves and good orcs are code for evil whites and good blacks.
>>741374648Basically this, Harry Potter "elves">>741373315>>741373390>>741373476
>>741375619I remember that One Piece arc.
>>741375807ok but like there are evil whites and good blacks in the world?
>>741369056A truly erotic work is the one that exists in the reader's imagination. Tolkein only had to explain that there exists a race of cute short barefoot girls for images of hobbit sex to endlessly swirl about in my mind.
>>741365784People like Dragon Age elves. Its a nice little twist where they are the savages instead of the advanced civilization.People only dislike the elves from the DAI and DA:TV which only wear dragon age as a skin suit to trick fans into buying it.
>>741375079Gotta love contemporary reviews. Once something becomes a 'classic' all you get is incessant dick sucking.
>>741365958This.
>>741365784Santa should have goblin. Thicc, green, cute goblins.
>>741374648DND. (pre 1980) described them as both reptile-like in looks and dog-like in behavior/noise, and I guess a mistranslation or misinterpretation came about and it stuck. Even weirder when the Monstrous Manual has a picture of them and they look like rat people.
>>741365784Epic reddit chungus comic bro!
>>741365784Which warcraft orcs were meant to be good?They are invaders and not even in a noble way more like a raze everything and put up some tents and mud huts kind of way.
>>741365784How did elves managed to get enslaved by one fat human?
>>741377859Time stop and hypnosis magic > wood magic or whatever elves use
>>741365784
>>741365784>evil elvesI have never seen a single complaint about this.>good orcsMost of the complaints I have seen are warcraft-centric where they are black-coded and Blizzard loves making sure they dindu nuffin. Easier to chalk it up to a general writing complaint than anything specifically about orcs being good instead of evil. Thrall basically had to be orc jesus to be a decent figurehead for the (pretty dickish) orcs he led but they're a parallel to Warcraft-humans who have complicated political bullshit and a shit leader for the otherwise mostly-okay humans (that hide their shittier examples better).
>>741367020Post nose.
>>741378479Begone roach
>>741378479Ruined potential couple, someone change the Female santa elf with a male santa elf.
>>741378704Wrong, they need to replace the fantasy elf with me.
>>741378704I could do a slop edit if you want
in germanic myth, elves are close to the gods. they exemplify pure features. to the norse for example, this would mean pale flawless skin and well groomed beards. just people, but perfect in their standards at the time. we have given elves long ears so that they may hear messages from the heavens to honor that origin while keeping a more generic visual template not reliant on everchanging standards.point is, those long ears are custom made to hear the messengers of GOD ORDER THEM TO MAKE TOYS MORE TOYS TOYS FOR THE TOTS YOU KNIFE EARED HERETICS
I wish i was in a fantasy universe so i could lust after HUMAN pussy and knock up a hearty and hale HUMAN wife. We’d live in our vaguely germanic cottage and make tons of HUMAN offspring, and I would learn fantasy arts like SHOOTING A MATCHLOCK and WEARING STEEL ARMOR to protect us.
>>741380794i want to breed female halfbreeds with every single race (no niggers in my fantasy world), and then fuck my halfbreed daughters as their only worth is for sex because lower races shouldnt exist, and i want to breed a male heir with a human.
>>741375348I wish more dudes drew cute hobbit, gnome or halfling girls,
>>741373349lmao, Tolkien really was the last true Englishman
>>741382312i HATE the midget look. i prefer kid sized people over disgusting malformed midgets. this is why i dislike dwarves as well.either kid sized well proportioned people, or just permanent kids. thats the only acceptable halfling/hobbit look. otherwise its like, its like putting wheelchairs and vitiligo in fantasy. there should be no malformed midgets or down syndrome tards in fantasy. keep real afflictions out
>>741375348HAIRIER FEET
we need vietcong style elves with vietnam-era weapons and vietcong jungle skulking
>>741367601That is unironically the dumbest fucking shit I've ever heard and any people who believe that are a weak slave race of self hating imbeciles that are craven evil and entirely untrustworthy.
>>741365784Tolkien doesn't have a monopoly. Other writers are just hacks.
>>741373212>best tv showIt was just shcokbait. Everything after the first season felt forced, like they were just trying to one up the whock factor. Of course the ending was utter disaster too...
>>741371313It's their only day off in the north pole
>>741378704Based
>>741366228*incelves
>>741378479yuritroons get the rope, but I love elf's with big droopy ears
>>741366718imagine the kind of life SEA chimps lead to enjoy this
>>741384162the most virulently disgusting people have been consistently yuristeins
>>741369056 >since you cant imaging hobbits having sex, can you?Honestly the most non-British pilled thing GRRM ever said
>>741382661Depends on whos drawing it. But you just sound like a pedophile either way.
>>741384456hey man could you watch it with the antisemitism? the holocaust began with that kind of stuff okay
>>741377796>Which warcraft orcs were meant to be good?The Frostwolf clan specifically.The other clans are varying degrees of evil, even before demon corruption.
>>741369056>Elden Ring writer BTFO tolkien pretty hardBut has he finished writing his book series though?
>>741384456>Depends on whos drawing iti just find disproportioned people uncanny and disgusting.
>>741377796>>741385045Don't forget the White Claw. Most of the nomadic orcs of FrostFire focused on a survival culture and not orcing out so you could call them "good". Even the Thunderlords from that area are at most, bastards to their environment due to hunting obsessions.
Because it's safe and you don't actually have to think about it much.
>>741380315nta but slop away
>>741385045
>>741385321wouldn't this made their brains smaller?
good orks is so stupid. its like having good demons. good rapists. good axe murderers. good baby mulchers. good niggers. it just doesnt work. theyre not misunderstood, theyre evil. they can be cool and interesting and funny, but they must still be brutally evil monsters.
>>741385604well i said child sized and/or children and got called a pedophile for it so ultra mini adult is what society has burdened me with
>>741385045>W2 rematch expansion>Kargath>Ner'zhul FUCKING NER'ZHUL>Kilrogg>even fucking Grom>ALL WASTEDWoD was so fucking insulting
>>741385321>PicThose 2 use a canon of 8, lanklet territory.
>>741373212Nah, if they were good, I'd have watched and played them.
>>741367338just like that Anime, the dub pretty much called elves "duendes" as well in a dub.
>>741386089its used interchangeably. it can mean goblin, or elf. the duende is NEITHER. its its own thing thats just the spanish version of house spirits and the name just gets used for goblins and elves.apparently elfo is the actual name but i dont think ive ever heard that in my entire life, only duende. maybe once or twice, but its extremely fuzzy and might not be a real memory
>>741386343>it might not be a real memory why does our brain does this?
>>741365958FPBP
>>741369952we killed all the background artists and replaced them all with 3D modelers
>>741386429its all the femboy porn in my case. cant even remember my own face, just boypussy...but for you, its because our brains are always trying to connect everything so it invents A LOT. most of your vision right now is fake, and im not kidding. your brain real time photoshops what youre seeing, and its what leads to hallucinations and ghosts and shadows and stuff like that. your brain glitches and grabs a nugget of information and just instantly hyper builds a memory of it. this is also how deja vu works. youre NOT remembering those events happening again, your brain just glitched. some or all of this information might be incorrect, because i was using my memory to write it.
>>741366152Pratchett is a jealous bastard that wishes he had half the linguistic skill and 1/10th the cultural impact of Tolkien
>>741369952This is something someone who hasn't watched anime in decades would say.
>>741369056He's right, but you cut the quote short and didn't include everything he said to make him look bad.
>>741366718i know Isekai is a power fantasy, I understand that, we all have them but it's honestly incredible to me how Isekai has gone from>"please give me another chance in another world"to>i'm literally god (or this super powerful god being likes me and only me for some arbitrary reason)>girls flock to me inexplicably>they all want my dick>they all have this specific problem to which NO ONE has a solution, only my super duper unique skill is the solution
>>741384456Wrong. This is what pedophiles are interested in
>>741387919https://youtu.be/bpOdFxTC8ZQdoesn't have to be
>>741387526hes not right even 1 iota. hes just a fat fucking faggot. nature is one thing, excessive explicit sex is another.you can easily say sam plowed rosie in ways that are not disgusting or immoral. what that disgusting freak wants is hardcore porn. thats what he means when he says he cant imagine hobbit sex, because hes thinking of what HE writes and he writes shit like "and then lord cumfart splooshed a pungent load in maggie's mouth, "mhmm its salty m'lord", she says before swallowing" that and bouts of liquid diarrhea.
>>741365784>I’m wondering why Tolkien has a monopoly on the characterization and aesthetic of fantasy.Because he wrote good books. They were so good they influenced just about every fantasy author that came after.
>>741386343for me I some times hear Goblin as "Trasgo", but not that often.The point is, people will use them how ever they know and want.
>>741387919we've had shit writing forever. It used to be >I'm new here at Japan magic academy but it turns out I actually have the strongest magic in the world!!!?????now it's>I'm new here at Isekai magic academy but it turns out I actually have the strongest magic in the world!!!?????fundamentally, nothing has changed in the power fantasy genreIn fact, if you remember stories made from even before the 90's, we used to have things like>I'm new here at Space magic academy but it turns out I actually have the strongest magic in the worlds!!!?????
>>741367183You're a hero
>>741385604could just be super foldy but the truth is, pixies are tiny and just as intelligent. it's magin, i ain't gotta explain shiet
>>741388097I too enjoy Marquis de Sade's writing
>>741366228not with you bud
>>741380315Based
>>741388306mice are tiny and they're the smartest things on our planet, followed closely by dolphins, and then humans
>>741365784Cause he's a much better writer than you. And "doing something different" these days tends to involve jewish funding and elves being turned into turd worlders. I'll stick with tradition and the real thanks.
>>741365784i fuck all elves
>>741388407
>>741365784Gee, maybe because "Elf" literally fucking means "noble" in Old English. Wonder if that's got anything to do with the characterization of Elves written by the guy who's obsessed with Old English
>>741368694>>741371208all this rage at chaotic evil and not one word on who the #1 lawful evil people are.
who says he does, you can literally write anyhting you want
>>741367029Lmao
>>741369952when they started churning this shit out and replacing all backgrounds with cgii'm pretty sure everything except the actual characters and those trees at the end is cgi
>>741388332thats what that fat faggot actually wrote. thats in a kike of ice and fire or whatever that book is called. he cums in her mouth, she says its salty (m'lord) and then she has explosive liquid diarrhea
>>741388220Trasgo is usually the best way to call them in Spanish.
>>741388758clearly inspired by de Sade, indeed
>>741388220>>741388776Y si prefiero ser un trolo?
>>741366228We don't sign our posts here>>741367032Not everyone is on here 24/7 like you are
>>741369056typical jew cannot understand deeper themes of love and intimacy and equates it to only sex.
>>741369056>He can't imagine hobbits having sexLet me tell you, they love their cream pies
>>741367410can I have the pretty faced elf on the tiny body?
>>741365784Neither of those are tolkien elves tho.
>>741388776
>>741388887
>>741389363
>>741389658The Most Dangerous Faction are ironically these Lesser dungeon bastards.
>>741389636>>741389748posted the edited version. here is the original
>>741389781nice 'fro
>>741365784Warcraft elves were pretty good, they had a very distinct vibe. Were any elves done better?
>>741389636There was one with Shrek in armor.Hilarious as fuck.
>>741390003>size 22 shoe
>>741390154hope it's not one of those futanari elves
>>741390003>slopkill yourself
>>741365784the elves in dragon age were slaves, not evil
>>741390217nein
>>741390237Nah with the horrific developments of DAI and DATV we now learn elves lead a sociopathic, cruel empire of magic using mages, are responsible for the Darkspawn and tried to genocide humanity.
>>741390003i like zelda elves because theyre regular people and i really dont like the generic elf traits. wise (but not really) and magical and super long lived and racist and classist and all that shit.what if i want my fucking elf to be a cute fucking sensitive farm girl who delivers milk and likes singing to her favorite pony while dreaming of being swept up by a knight in shining armor? what if i want THAT?
>>741365784It's /v/. Being angry at retarded shit is the natural state.
>>741390425i thought that was the tevinter imperium
>>741390471I like them also for that reason. I've seen people argue that they aren't elves since they're basically just regular humans with pointy ears.
>>741365784>Anytime you do something different like evil elves in Elder Scrolls and Dragon Age or good orcs in Warcraft you make people angry.Tolkien adapted elves and made them into something that is substantially novel and unique, but which is also very derivative of northern european heathen practices. So you would never mistake a tolkien elf for a pagan germanic elf, but you can clearly tell that these things are related, and that tolkien's depiction is respectful and displays great insight of the thing which it derives from.TES elves being evil gnostic alien creatures is just retarded. They shouldn't be called elves at all, just call them mer. Imagine I was a fantasy writer and I decided to make something that was derivative of something else that was itself derivative of chinese folklore creatures, and I'm going to put something in my world called a jiangshi, except its an elephant with a jetpack and a laser gun whose brain is controlled by a parasitic colony of algae. The obvious question is: why the fuck would I call this thing a jiangshi?
>>741390761>I've seen people argue that they aren't elves since they're basically just regular humans with pointy earsthats so retarded it doesnt even merit a response. thats the kind of stupid shit you literally just ignore forever because anyone stupid enough to even consider that valid has absolutely nothing of value to say about anything.>um they're not elves because theyre not making toys with santa clausthats basically their fucking argument right? theyre not like their preferred fantasy ip so theyre not elves? whats stopping me from saying elder scrolls bosmer arent elves because theyre not like hylians? i cant get over how insanely stupid that is
>>741390471>i want elf>but with no actual traits of elves, i want generic country farm girl but with le pointed ears???just go to some flyover state and get one dumbassthen have her wear fake elf ears during sexliterally the same exact thing
>>741365784Nobody is angry about any of that.We are angry about negro elves.
>>741367183Put me in the screencap.
>>741391246pretty much lol>>741391362She wouldn't have horizontal pointy ears idiot...
>>741370901Oh, hey, I drew that
>>741391362but those are the kikest fucking traits and i dont find kikery attractive
>>741390471>what if i want THAT?Then you should settle with a regular round-eared farm girl.>i want a loli who has a mature personality and an adult body and has lived for 500 yearsFuck off, you do not want a loli, or in your case, an elf.
>>741367032WELL THEN WHERE ARE THE PICTURES?DRAWFAGS????AISAARS????
>>741365784One of the left x one on the right
>>741391996then why do you like elves
>>741392457>>741392749why does ANYONE like elves, you boners? its NOT for acting like kikes or faggots. its the EARS
>>741366228the post that broke the chvds
>>741372248Well Tolkien before the amount of thots in the wild outnumbered the normal girls.
>>741380315>/ss/ santa elf (fat cock)Oh yeah.Now we're talkin'
>>741391818Posting an older pic
>>741369612I hope you enjoy the same joke repeated over and over again.
>>741395549It's actually her cousinThey're both my girlfriends now.
>>741366718>3 frames of pressure cooking wobbling>12 (twelve!) frames of pressure cooker failing>2 frames of steam escaping>3 frames of mouth flapping>9 frames of hammer arm moving>8 frames of debris falling>4 frames of hair>11 frames of steam>3 frames of mouth flapping>not a single frame of a person's entire body movingthis is hardly even animated. the barn/lab is 3d rendered, too.
>>741387919We're in the end times of society anon, haven't you noticed?Hope you're ready, it's gonna get REALLY fucky wucky in the next 20 years.
>>741395923>...and one moving violation
>>741396241>next 20 yearsyou think there's going to be 20 more years?
>>741396241>>7413963202 more weeks
>>741396483Things Never Happen until It All Happens.
>>741370085I think its just a shobby edit anon, don't be so paranoid all the time. Do you think your average anon is going to give a shit with their edits?
>>741378704>>741380315Yes. YES!
>>741367696Evil is the absence of good.
>>741368464D&D AND Wizardry
>>741395848Wouldn't be here otherwise
>>741369960>I have nigger fatigue but I talk about them every chance I getSo it this like Stockholm mutt's law?
>>741397692imagine defending kikery even as a joke in 2026. have some fucking tact and hate the kikes like a normal person you stupid piece of shit.
>>741377796Ngl, I never played Warcraft or WoW but I watched the Warcraft movie. All I remember is something something noble pillagers who didn't take the evil fell energy oath that made them green?
>>741387919It all becomes clear when you realize that the "feel the aura" "he is him" posters aren't being ironic.
>>741396241no, i haven'tplease explain for the sake of conversation
>>741374413
>>741396512>Harman... the world won't change. All it does is turn.
>>741397771I obviously touched a sore spot, just like how your uncle touched your prostate.
>>741390471Hylians aren't elves.
>>7413897819/10 quality edit
>>741398012Immigration is escalatingHigh-tier groups are getting tired of eachothers' shitThe normalfags are getting a touch of it all. Once they fully activate, it's gonna be a whole fucking rodeo.
>>741386343I'm from Spain and I have only ever heard "elfo de navidad", but they are a foreign thing to begin with and we never had elves. Duendes are our classic thing
>>741369056>Since you can't imagine Hobbits having sex can you?A guy who was born in 1948 should know by now that whatever you'd call the western equivalent of fujos have been shipping Frodo and Sam together for as long as the LOTR books have been out
>>741398060It doesn't changeBut it does go through cycles.And we're overdue for a cycle of violence.
>>741398382i seei don't think it isas long as basic needs are met, people are pretty chill about being raped and replacedotherwise the UK would be a warzone right now
>>741398625Yeah the UK is in dire straits right now but so is the rest of the western world (+ Japan). I don't know, part of me wants shit to pop off but obviously then there goes society you know? Things are getting worse though, and the normalfags are definitely feeling it. Blatant racism is common in my workplace.
>this poem makes elves start weeping if they try to recite it
>>741374413this but it was the wooden Thomas the Tank Engine trains that Brio made
>>741372248People can have sex outside of marriage, and not just for the purpose of procreation. Not to mention other practices, such as homosexuality and fetishes.
>>741398803proofs?
>>741370085It's because of how the image is generated, if the source is another image it has to kind of reinterpret it from noise, so the more iterations you do the worst it gets
>>741398803Can, but shouldn't
>>741398803>>741398973Yeah but children are somewhat likely proof you had sex (especially with a dna test and results included) If no child, you are a parent-virgin.
>>741370085That's not AI, it's how the ear was originally drawn, this is a shoop, you are an idiot
>>741373305>ESL>diamond-dozen
>>741373212George did not write Elden Ring you fucking idiot. He handed an index card of names to Miazaki and that was it.
>>741369056>(You) can't imagine Hobbits having sexI can't imagine a more pathetic existence. this is the guy who wrote the more she drank the more she shit?
>>741365784>good orcs in Warcraft
>>741369056>Tolkien didn't write down a bunch of unhinged, degenerate descriptive sex scenes that means nobody in ME had sexWhere does that logic even come from? Drunk people are more logical.
>>741373305>diamond-dozen
>>741365784>I’m wondering why Tolkien has a monopoly on the characterization and aesthetic of fantasyD&D and MtG
>>741369362Which I've read and I don't think the inspiration is particularly "heavy". MacDonald was still writing faerie tales.
>>741399195i hate to break it to you that it's generatedand this isn't the first time i've noticed this artifact in recent generated images
>>741373305>diamond-dozenfuckin hell, like the "doggy dog" world retards
>>741399195and in case you don't see what i'm getting at, this version of then image accentuates the artifact
Because Tolkien writes 10,000 years of fictionalized history to explain why the White and Off-White Elves are culturally distinct from one another, and how they're different.People slap a coat of paint on Tolkien's aesthetic and say "see these Elves are Imperialist McBad guys". People rightly see it as low effort.People try to shit on the Drow as the writers thinly disguised fetish but there's ultimately quite a lot of lore dumped into them for why they are the way they are. So you can do off brand Elves and not be lazy about it. It's just most, like TES, its really superficial crap.
>>741369056There's plenty of sex in Tolkien's work, but its all implied through things like family, marriage, lineage and romantic interest. This is because Tolkien was writing a big fantasy adventure epic. He wasn't writing an erotic novel.I have never encountered a sex scene in a novel that wasn't essentially pornographic. That is: I have never encountered a sex scene in any book where some explicit, graphic description of a sexual encounter was in any way important to the story itself. It is always obviously for the gratification of the reader, and its always off-putting if you're not trying to jerk off to a book. It can feel similar to if you were watching a serious film that had hardcore pornography spliced into it every dozen minutes or so.Sam banged Rosie. Aragorn banged Arwen. Faramir banged Eowyn. This much is canon, but it was for the absolute best that Tolkien left this implicit instead of putting in explicit hobbit and elf sex.
>>741369056he's completely rightI hate how americucks are so fucking stingy about sex that we have to remove it from virtually all media to sell in theor stupid country of obese niggers
>>741378479cute>>741390471based farm elf enjoyer.
>>741365784Cute thread
>>741387919That's the whole appeal of fantasy self-insert shit, yes, loser chudcels who have no actual redeeming qualities irl adore the idea of not having to put any effort in, of being desirable and special just by merit of existing.
>>741365784>any time you do something different like *examples from three insanely popular franchises* you make people angry.Are you fucking stupid?
>>741400970This
>>741387919There are still a handful of actually good Isekai being released every year that actually have decent writing. In fact, there's probably more now than there was a decade ago. The thing is that Isekai became the go-to genre for new and shit writers to fall back on. In the 2000s, it was battle shonen (with or without harem). Over the past decade, it's become Isekai.
>>741402438is EVERYTHING pointy?
>>741375074First one of this guy's comics I've laughed at.
>>741402438what is that weird tentacle poking her in the face?
>>741402601She's a pointy girl
>>741366942Like you know about English literature you ESL twat
>>741369056Every single person in the Fellowship was a man, and they didn't stay in the company of women for particularly long periods of time.
>>741402438she needs to be careful or she's going to hit one of those things with her hammer
>>741402832Are you implying they had bro sex?
>>741365784>wooden train no kid asked for first world baby brain theres tons of kids around the world that would LOVE a toy wooden train
>>741402991thank god i don't have to see them, must be some brown little turds
>>741402885No. Homosexuality hadn't been invented yet so they were all straight.
>>741402438bouba vs kiki
>>741402079What even gets you put on the naughty list these days? Most people don't do bad kid shit, unless Santa counts misanthropic or hateful thinking as naughty.
>>741378704THE GOAT
>>741369952>comparing a movie's backgrounds to a tv anime'sEvery time with you retards
>>741370854>everything looks like it was rendered as an orthographic projection in modern shitWatch more anime
>>741396320My HERO did not and would never say that. GODhan would call Buu a fucking nigger tho.
>>741365784>I’m wondering why Tolkien has a monopoly on the characterization and aesthetic of fantasy.Well, compare him to modern day fantasy authors and you quickly realize why he's not going to be toppled as the standard bearer of Western fantasy anytime soon.
>>741365784Tolkien had evil elves. Meiglin straight up worked for Morgoth and the sons of faenor killed thousands out of greed and hatred for the gods.
>>741370429Okay then, compare it to this. Also a TV series with a very limited budget.
>>741403883Checked, they both terrible compared to something like kotor2, story that isn't afraid to push boundaries
>>741404291
>>741404392Nothing to say?
>>741404614Here: >>741402079
>>741404039Watch more anime
>all of the anime elves are just visually elves and embody none of the traditional tropes, except long life sometimes>this is not just accepted, its beloved and theres even specific japanese elf lore about them being naturally lewd>video game elves are visually elves and embody SOME of the tropes like wisdom and inherent spiritual connections as well being the chosen race of their gods >this is NOT accepted whatsoever and detractors post anime lewd elves while claiming video game elves arent real elvesyoure not that stupid, right /v/?
>>741366228>DESTROYED IN SECONDS
>>741366228Savage
>>741369056>Leave it out, and you've got an incomplete world.Is that better or worse than an incomplete book? Huh? HUH???
>>741402079Why can't I just have a cute, slightly crazy girl who wants to do nice things for me?
>>741400918>That is: I have never encountered a sex scene in any book where some explicit, graphic description of a sexual encounter was in any way important to the story itself.As a smut writer I personally I believe sex being important to the story only enhances the pornographic nature. If your porn is not important to the story, you might as well go on pornhub or e6 and look at a video/picture instead of reading it
>>741400918>sex being intimate destroys anon's brainlol
>>741405223>>741405683You butt hurt boys are cute and silly! :3
>>741367095>>741367338>>741368376>>741368852Duende is an extremely generic term that can be used for all sorts of mythical tiny critters, I've mostly heard the word used in relation to gnomes but they can encompass a huge variety of lil magical thingies
>>741365958Slap leftPlap right
>>741406175>>741406329It's porn.
>>741404914Nice background.Let's see the animation quality.
>>741407172
>>741369056crazy sex obsessed people are often deviants like homosexuals as well as subvertors like feminists>>741400970not everything has to be sex, plus yo are talking about the same autist who was talking about tax policies in loroh yeah I forgot this faggot is a kike LOOOLLLLL
>>741370703Wrong, that peak anime period was during 80s to mid 90s due to their economy flourishing and the same reason for it being so experimental and creative compared to today; every insane nip could fund their pipe dream animation even if just for one episodeAnime is far more popular nowadays due to ease of distribution, there was simple no market or demand for non-translated random japanese vhs imported overseas, the average brick and mortar store at most would settle for godzilla movies, toonami was the one to show the public what anime was
>>741365784Rape leftMarry right
>high tiernoldordunmer>shit tiereverything else
>>741395549>>741391818I would rape your elves anon!
>>741365784>I’m wondering why Tolkien has a monopoly on the characterization and aesthetic of fantasyHe doesn't. A lot of fantasy nowadays is about Japanese yokai, Chinese myths and other things completely unrelated to Tolkien. Expedition 33 was really popular and that was a fantasy story without any sort of elf, dragon or whatever. You have a narrow definition of fantasy.
>>741388776I called them that because my hobbit book used that word.
Why do elves have a biological compulsion to rub their superiority in your face though?
>>741407937They're baiting you to prove them wrong and put them in their place.
I like Elder Scrolls elves
>>741398117lol seething kike
>>741365784Left deserves my dick in her breasts
>>741385362>Don't forget the White Claw.*crack* *sip*
>>741408010But they're kinda ugly...
>>741383167tis a sad and simple factas a matter of fact, different folk aren't often relevant to the story anyway, they are just there to fill in a checkbox about what fantasy is allegedly abouthumans, short and stout humans, tall and thin humans
what annoys me isn't that tolkein and d&d have a stranglehold on people's ideas of fantasy, but that people's idea of fantasy has basically replaced their understanding of history. the early modern period was kino and half of the things people think of when they imagine "medieval" fantasy is actually from it, but if you try to include other elements illiterate retards will claim it's "out of place" because they weren't in the lord of the rings or baldur's gate.
>>741409462I think your example applies to one thing in particular: gunpowder and firearms. You try introducing those in fantasy and people throw a shitfit. But again this is also ironic because Saruman invented the gunpowder equivalent in his own universe.
>>741407249Porn doesn't need to be in everything.
>>741407773They're called "trasgos" in my copy of The Hobbit as well and it made me so confused, weren't they supposed to be orcs? We have "orcos" for that, trasgos should mean goblins. It turns out it did mean goblins as Tolkien himself wrote it that way, to confuse me, I presume.
>>741409563I didn't say it didI said when you're writing porn, it has to be important to the story, because if it isn't it's SHIT and it might as well not exist
>>741407195Watch more anime
>>741366942An AI from 5 years ago could've written this reply. Nothing you said is an original idea, you are like a homunculus created by retards larping because they need to pretend Tolkein is unsurpassable simply because he was Catholic.
>>741402079we're bffs now!
>>741403280handholding
>>741410307i just see 3d rendered slop
>>741365958Kys irony poisoned tard
fuck it, this thread was made like a half year back and i like it, just gonna post someone elses fanart from then
>>741369056>book starts with a lengthy treatise on the origins and genealogy of hobbits with all the different families and clans >book ends with Sam breeding 13 children out of Rosie Cotton, and also specifically mentioning a population boom of healthy golden-haired children the same year the mallorn tree was planted it's so easy to imagine hobbits having sex its insane, I can smell the tobacco and apple cider
>>741412528meanwhile, in dune, reverend mothers mind-control men through orgasmic amplification and paul's mom teaches him how to tense each muscle in his sphincter individually
Did the thread talk about video games?
>>741412039This is cute.
>>741413604MESSMERFOE OF MY BELOVED PEOPLE
>>741411079irony?do you even know what that means
>>741409570>>741388776>trasgoI never ever heard of that word, the only way I see them translate goblin is duende like duende verde for green goblin
why are elf posters clever humorous and precise?
I think tolkien's worldbuilding SUCKS
>>741370017Its way more work to painfully animate various fight sequences and complex movements Compare literally one painting to hundreds of thousands of individual drawings that need to be good
>>741385045Shadowmoon was actually portrayed rather positively before they were hit with the villain bat as both orc and draenei NPCs in WoD point out.Also I can't recall any instance of a Laughing Skull in WoD being a piece of shit. They're all "I'm the joker (jungle)" but this isl a cope for having a life expectancy in the teens because they live where orcs are near the bottom of the food/rape chain, they don't go around blowing up ogre orphanages for fun or anything.
here i go into the kitchen to cook something.
>>741390317milk
>>741373349kek
>>741366228
Growing up near Iceland, elves were often seen as evil spirits that lured people to their doom. They were always portrayed as something to fear, and it’s unsettling to realize how older generations sometimes used the folklore as an explanation for suicides.In fact, dwarves and gnomes were always more popular and liked. There were cool cartoons about them. Them mining shit and going on adventures.
>>741413570Elves truly are beings of refinement and grace.
>>741365784>evil elves in Elder ScrollsThere are many evil Elves in Tolkien's writing, including "Dark Elves."
>>741414584Also, I forgot to mention that Der Ring des Nibelungen was the ultimate reference for fantasy back when I was younger. Dwarves and gnomes were basically part of anything cool and seemed capable of just about everything.Meanwhile Elves were the creepy, sinister spirits who might tempt you into a dark, cold forest or guide you up a mountain peak with deadly motives, all under the pretense of taking you to their hidden world (basically, fucking kill you).Then the Lord of the Rings movies came out and everything changed.
>>741390471I love how Japanese are so devoid of creativity they actively remove what makes a race unique.
>>741402991>trains invented: 1804>plastic toys outpace wooden toys: 1950 (post WWII)Not even 150 years of wooden train relevance for Santa's elves.>St. Nicholas lived around 270-343>1500 years of trains not existing alongside elvish workshopsThe most popular wooden toy in those 1500 years would have been some version of a pull-toy, either a chariot, cart, or just a horse on wheels pulled by a string. Possibly kites depending on the region.
>>741413570
>>741399715>>741400518don't be such a pre-madonna, it's a blessing in the skies
>>741369056>Martin's imagination and deductive reasoning skills are so poor that he can't conceive of something happened unless it's explicitly spelt out for him How GRRM. Explains a lot of why Song of Ice and Fire is bloated and meandering tho
i fucking hate how elves are supposed to be as useful as humans, even though elves have all of the time in the world to master whatever hobby/profession they take up>muh balancing
>>741415003Your grandpa's lived 4 times longer than you, but I don't see him being very useful these days
>>741415003they are not very smart to begin with, they live for thousands of years yet they remain stuck on the middle ages.
>>741415063Because he's old and dying
>>741413529Big part of thread are simpletons seething about Elden Ring writer.Does that counts?
>>741415063you are retarded
>>741402438okay, it's not too bad, but how about we do the raita banana tits instead
>>741415172and you're an ELF
>>741415116A lot of scientific advancements and progressions irl occurred because the old guard died off and allowed new blood with new ideas in. Elves being extremely backwards because they're still insisting on using Aristotelian mechanics in 2026 would make sense
>>741415226I'm glad Tolkiens elves were described as advancing sciences in the Sil (without specifying what actual science that was), because having geniuses and skilled people around for hundreds of years should be a huge boon.You are projecting human psych on a long-lifed race, doesn't work.
>>741373349holy moly lolol
>>741408618Not all of them are
>>741365784We've already had this discussion AND found the ideal cumclusion.>>741367032>>741366027
>>741392996>>741405683>>741405223
>>741392749>>741391996>elves are kikesKikes haven't built anything decent or done anything glorious since the bible, and the bible was literally all about kikes being shit. Do not sully elves you faggot. They labour, they create. They fight their own battles and they don't practice usury.
>>741407997This anon fucks elves
>>741369056>Well, the last book is an important part of a series. It finishes ties up the loose ends, satisfies the readers, it makes us sometimes write glowing reviews and sometimes it makes us write very critical reviews. Leave it out, and you have an incomplete story."
>>741415570>>741402438
>>741414135They did backstab the Horde in the main universe
>>741367183Literally my fiancée. I love her so much it's unreal
